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Exploring Gender Differences in Brain Function

now you've scanned over 250,000 brains and have concluded that yes men and women's Brains are different and it can actually show up in subtle ways that can have massive impact so what are the differences and how does that lead to a big impact on our relationship so I actually published I think it's the world's largest study on gender and on 46,000 scans looking at well what's the difference between male brains and female brains and it's sort of like we're not the same species the female brain especially in the emotional circuits of the brain are very busy much more active they're frontal lobe so that's the front third of your brain largest in humans than any other animal by far significantly more active in the female brain now the prefrontal cortex is called the executive part of the brain it's sort of like the boss at work and it's involved with things like forethought judgment impulse control organization planning empathy learning from the mistakes you make significantly more active in women and the one statistic that shows that's absolutely true is who goes to jail males 14 times more than females because they're not thinking ahead you know if I do this this is going to happen if I say this this is going to happen males and females both have their own significant strengths but the strengths of the female brain is forethought it's conscientiousness it's collaboration that is why they actually make really good leaders but because of the busyness of their emotional brain they also suffer with depression twice as much as males and they try they attempt suicide three times more than men but men are more successful at suicide three times more than women because they use more violent means and often suicide attempts for women is a cry for help but because men are generally not as good at communicating they hold things in and until it's too late oh my God so there's so much there that I'd actually really love to dive into because I think that in as you were breaking it down it's like well if we really are almost like two different species no wonder sometimes we look at each other like the other person's nuts so let's just even Orient people on everything you're saying it doesn't mean that women or men are better cuz when people say that they're not the same it's funny how people get their backup of like yes we are I just no no one's better or worse but we're different so now if we're different how on Earth do we use our differences to understand each other and actually collaborate better instead of um be at each other's throats and you know call each other crazy and nuts and things like that okay so you say there's a lot of strengths with women and a lot of challenges with women's Brains and so let's just go through a few of those if you don't mind so you said that um women are more likely to worry more their emotional brain especially in area called the anterior just means toward the front singulate gyrus part of a it's a part of a network in the brain called the default mode Network female brains wildly more busy so they think more they process more they worry more and and it's just because the gear shifter in the brain is very busy compared to male brains now we have to understand there some males that have a very busy anterior singulate and some females we it's right so these are in general terms but when I look at a scan I generally can tell how old the scan is how the person is and whether or not it's male or female uh females tend to have healthier brains they have less addictions left head injuries because they didn't play football and so on had fewer fights so less head injuries so their brains tend to be healthier but busier and with the busyness especially in that front part of the brain they worry they hold grudges if things don't go their way they get upset and could be argumentative and oppositional in one study they had 5 2% less serotonin and what does serotonin do it calms down that part of the brain but it also calms down the limic or emotional part of the brain most people don't know that serotonin is an inhibitory neurotransmitter which just means it calms things down and if you have 52% less than I do and I'm not worried about it and you are that's going to cause friction and and cuz I'm not worried now you're giving me anxiety and I don't really want it and that can be trouble is it really 52% less whoa 52% less than a a man and so doing things to boost serotonin can help balance you and when your hormones go low serotonin goes low with it which is why as women go into perimenopause or menopause they can get depressed and one thing most people don't know is that with progesterone it actually goes lower 10 years before you go into menopause so in your late 30s progesterone think of it as the brain's natural Valium when it goes low now your busy brain becomes busier you're more worried you're more anxious you're sadder you're more irritable you can't sleep because your brain won't shut off and you go to the doctor who gives you a prescription for Ian to sleep very bad for Xanax to calm your anxiety very bad and then for Prozac or Lexapro to help your mood you'll leave with these three things that you may never stop and I'm like Checker progesterone give her a little bit of progesterone because then she might need not need any of it and then make sure you get more Sunshine increases serotonin exercise increases serotonin and do something where you feel respect increases serotonin oh what do you mean by that well whether it's volunteering or having a job where you feel respected or respecting your family and women often because of the worry overdue for children the child will go on board and rather than go I wonder how you're going to fix that they try to fix it and the less you do things like like that the better and your children will actually respect you more if you stop overdoing for them and I teach all of my patients to kill the ants the automatic negative thoughts that steal their happiness it's not a good thing wow so okay so you said the Sun and exercise are two things that people can do to boost their serotonin and that will make them less emotional and so they'll be able to communicate with their partner better less worried worried so I don't want to say less emotional because I want us to be emotional I want us to feel our feelings can when we block them they come out in pain in our body um and then sometimes the supplement 5htp 5htp is the amino acid precursor to serotonin and I like it I've used it a lot over the years with my patients so anywhere from 500 milligram to 200 Mig perfect um okay so I've got something else for you I did a search on Google about what are the biggest complaints men have about women and women have about men and I would love to actually read them to you and then you break down what is probably happening in our brains Where We complain about the other person and don't get them so number one for women the biggest complaint they have is he's not there for me what is happening in the brain where you may feel that intensely and the the guy doesn't necessarily understand that feeling well you know guys have add five times more than women do so their attentions been may be shorter um but a challenge is once you get a thought well you may have that thought 50 times so he might not have been there for you once because he was distracted or you came in the fourth quarter of the Laker game and you wanted to like test how how much does he love me does he love me more than the lers and it's like wait till the end of the game right I mean why are you going to do that and then complain he's not there for you so sometimes it's context dependent but often when I'm talking to guys it's like if you hurt her feelings you really want to be careful because she may think about it way more than you think about it just because of the default Network in her brain which tends to go on repeat if she's stressed and it changes during this woman's menstrual cycle so I I grew up with five sisters um one week when I'm a teenager one week they just really like me and they were so happy to have me as a brother two weeks later I'm the worst thing in the world and it's very confusing right you always just sort of feel off center especially if you have five females in the house plus six with my mother and so when I first started hearing about PMS after I started scanning people I'm like I'm going to scan women at different times of their menstrual cycle and I was seeing this teenage girl and she was getting better and I'm at Marine World which sort of like SeaWorld in Northern California and I got a call on the weekend it's a Sunday from her mother that she had attacked her husband with a knife oh God and I'm like is this new Behavior she said right before my period I've left him three times but I got really out of control today and I'm very worried and I saw her in my office later that afternoon the next day the worst time of her cycle scanned her and then I scanned her again 11 days later 11 days later her brain was just normal but during the worst time of her cycle her cingulate flamed and her frontal loes dropped which means she's worried rigid and flexible with no break and so I helped balance her brain she stopped attacking her husband they're still doing fine but your hormones when they change it can be fright in for people and and a lot of women know what I'm talking about and some of them uh no problem at all but some of them it really puts a lot of stress on their relationship yeah I my God as you were saying that I just thought if you've already got these differences between us and now you add on to the top that our brains during our cycle are changing and um there are stronger moments you know than others that understanding I'm sure becomes even more far apart and you know growing up I just always heard a lot of guys going oh she's on her period you know stay clear she's crazy and as a woman it was really upsetting to hear that but it is very confusing because you're like I don't like all everything that I'm feeling right now feels real but I feel a little out of control and so understanding what is happening um and even understanding I know that like the brain changes when a woman gets pregnant and doesn't like the brain shrink and again the woman thinks that she's going crazy and if we don't understand it then I think you feel lost you feel empty you feel alone um and to add to all of that then your partner looks at you like you're losing your your marbles well and it's very stressful for your partner because it's the unpredictability that leaves him off center or her off center and so just knowing and sort of I have uh a lot of my female patients just track their Cycles it's like let's just know where you are because if this happens two or three days before you start we're not going to treat that just know it and during that time more things to boost serotonin make sure you get out in the sun more make sure you exercise more sometimes a little 5htp can be really help but if it starts 2 weeks before then we really need to assess what's going on in your hormones and that's very important because sometimes balancing that can really help level it some people it's called premenstrual dysphoric disorder pmdd um it can be really bad where women get really dark um they're just taking this natural sort of Cy vulnerability and it's magnified and it may be magnified because they had a concussion when they were four or five and they don't have healthy activity in their frontal loes and so when that time comes your prefrontal cortex think of it like the break in your brain it's like well the break doesn't work and I have less control over myself which is very frightening so how do you stabilize the brakes then you said did serotonin is that the key serotonin calms down the worry Center so then we would need something like dopamine to increase your prefrontal cortex activity and the beautiful thing about exercise it does both it does both it increases serotonin and it increases dopamine that's interesting is that why so dopamine is like the excitement right that Rush is that why we women go for like cake and stuff and like um like sweet Foods when we're kind of during our cycle when we're about to no it's serotonin they they do the serotonin um because and do you know this is why restaurants give you bread when you sit down free bread often amazing bread uh what does bread do it's a simple carbohydrate simple carbohydrates bread pasta potatoes rice fruit juice sugar cause an insulin spike in your body which drives serotonin into your brain so tryptophan uh another one of the amino acid precursors to serotonin It's a larger molecule and it doesn't compete well to get across the bloodb brain barrier exercise takes the other amino acids put them in your muscles decreases the competition for tryptophan to sneak in your brain sugar pushes tryptophan into your brain which is why you like it it makes you feel good the problem is it also makes you fat depressed and feebleminded so not a good thing it's not a good tradeoff yeah thank you for breaking that down by the way that was amazing um the other thing that women have uh the one of the biggest complaints women have about guys is they don't connect enough there's not enough connection between them so talk to me about that and the connection and why again I'm always just going to speak for myself I am I definitely have a um uh the connection with my husband I feel it more than he does so if we don't spend time together I'm the one that has to wave the flag to be like hey we're not connecting um now we've just owned that with each other and said look this is my responsibility because he doesn't feel it so I'm going to wave the flag first and then if I wave the flag we've got an agreement that he'll pay attention even though he feels connected to me so what is happening between me and my husband or men and women with the connection part that potentially men don't need it as much as women and typically they don't um there is not one Society on Earth where men are primary caretakers for children not one and it's because female lyic brains or emotional brains are busy and who do you attach to in your family my dad was gone at work all the time I'm attached to my mom and we're wired that way and people hate when I say that but there's not one not one Society on Earth uh I think men today are doing better than when I was growing up but there's a great example of how hormones are involved in this when I got together with Tana with my wife she was sort of like a guy and I'm like I had trouble getting her to commit we'd be intimate and then she's like okay I gotta go and I'm like hey where are you like there was no Afterglow it was like an after Zing gone and then we had her hormones checked and her ovaries checked she actually had something called PCOS her polycystic ovarian syndrome and her testosterone levels were really high and when we Balan them she connected she attached to me and then our first fight was over the kind of dog we were going to get so I wanted a little King Charles cavaliere they're very cute they're loving they'll sit on your lap you know it's like my little buddy and she wanted a Mastiff and I'm like no and so we thought about this and then once her hormones were balanced she calls me up one day at work and she's looking at pocket poodles online this little cute black I'm like who stole my wife it's like this is not you right to go from a Mastiff to a pocket po change your hormones change your dog wow you say the dog at the end that's so incredible so literally things like that then aren't necessarily just about taste it's about uh our brain and our hormones and our emotions absolutely and women's Brains get bathed in utero so even before you're born they get bathed with estrogen well estrogen causes language to develop on both sides of your brain so typically we think of language on the left side of the brain for right-handed people but for women it they have greater bigger language centers which is why they often use more words um and I tell mothers disciplining children less words less words more likely to get what you want because if you overwhelm them with language they get confused or irrit wow that's so fascinating um and I actually you say that um going back to the the the bonding the the connection between a mother and a child um that if the father is an alcoholic versus the mother that's an alcoholic the kid actually has more trauma um in their future if the mom's the alcoholic absolutely and so uh my first wife grew up in a pretty severely abusive alcoholic home and when we got married I mean she's the reason I became a psychiatrist two months into our marriage she tried to kill herself and I took her to see a wonderful psychiatrist and I came to realize if he helped her it wouldn't just help her that it would help me and it would help our children and our grandchildren and as the children of alcoholic stuff came out I studied it and if you and 30 million people in the United States grew up in alcoholic homes W that's huge and they learned not to trust not to talk and not to feel because it was dangerous and and when I saw the difference between if you're that D was an alcoholic it's bad if your mom's an alcoholic it's a disaster because she's the primary bonding figure and if you can't trust her it's hard to trust anybody if you're not feeling strong and healthy on the inside it's nearly impossible to show up and crush your goals and dreams take it from me I ignored my health for so long and it had such a negative impact on my life my confidence and my self-esteem and that's why I want to tell you about Joy Women's Wellness Joy Women's Wellness helps women like you and me take control of our well-being so we can feel like us again Joy 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Generation wow and is Ace you said AC AC adverse childhood experiences wow it's about physical sexual emotional abuse neglect witnessing a parent um being hurt by the other parent having a parent with an addiction with a mental health problem or going to jail so it's how many of these things happen to you and I adopted my two nieces because they're both nines and but one of them's at UCLA doing amazing the other one's going into high school um yeah it's hard I mean development matters so much but if you just understand these differences you just don't take it as personally and when very practical thing because men tend to be more distracted you have to tell them more than once what you like and so if you like like you're being intimate with each other a lot of women ago I told him and he's not doing that because he doesn't love me you only told him once and it's like how do boys learn to shoot free throws they shoot thousands of them it's like no you have to remind them no don't be irritated about it but in a loving way it's like no do this remember do this and they love you and they'll want to but they forget and so you just have to remind them so don't take that personally as if they're not into you it is just how they are wired correct and that you just have to teach them over and over a bit and don't be like mean about it but what happens is I said it once now I've spun on it because of my very busy emotional brain now I've spun on it and now I torture him and I'm like no that's not a good way to do it and I used to think early on as a psychiatrist that because I've seen lots of couples that it takes takes two to change and I realize that's totally not true it takes one person to change because if you begin to notice what you like more than what you don't like the relationship begins to change in a positive way I was actually going to ask you is that one of the things that for us to just remember because you we act as if someone's going to respond the way we would and so if I tell my husband I really love this I assume he's going to respond as if I would if he came to me and he told me he really loved it because if my husband came and told me I really love this I would plan I would get him 10 of them like let's say I got him a chocolate or something I'd get him 10 of them I'd have them on reorder I would put one on his pillow like I would go oh my God he told me he like cool and I would remember that for the next 10 years and I will have that in the back of my brain so that when he's going for a snack I'll be like oh you want this chocolate that's how I would show up so when I tell him I assume he should should react the same but when he doesn't especially in my younger years obviously now I just know so much about men and women and the brain and health and mindset and the difference between just humans in general that I don't do this but I do remember back at the beginning I was like I can't believe he did like is he not listening is he not paying attention to me am I not important you know and so you to your point that spiral of that voice in your head starts to make up a story and then you poke at them because you're irritated right you leak then you leak which causes him to recoil oh yeah and then there becomes more and more distance and then the relationship becomes vulnerable so for people at home don't judge your partner if they forget your anniversary like what would you actually suggest because what I now do is I tell my husband babe it's our anniversary I'll put him I'll put it in the calendar I then text him to remind him I then will put an alarm in his phone to remind him to book dinner but but it's because I know this is what I'm looking for like this is what I need and this is what I want but I know that he's very forgetful and he gets very busy so I try to counteract it um but for anyone at home that's listening how would you actually even then approach that type of discussion where because it doesn't feel good if you just keep telling the person remember this remember this remember this well I think if they don't remember it could be because they have ADD it could be because they had a head injury it could be because because they're so focused on doing other things to take care of the family that that just hasn't bubbled up to the surface I think what you're doing is perfect right this is a goal for you he cooperates lets you put it in his calendar right it's not that he's oppositional it's just he gets distracted and so you're just helping them with this and if you really want a great relationship um with that female busy brain you tend to notice what you don't like more than what you like you tend to notice what you don't like about yourself there's one study where 93% of women don't like their bodies uh and if you're not 93% 93% of women don't like their bodies and so if you're focused on noticing what you don't like that's going to cause chronic stress in the relationship I collect Penguins um I don't know if you noticed them when they were in my office I did yes when my oldest actually was seven he was hard for me oppositional um argumentative and I'm talking to my supervisor I'm a child skry resident during that time and she gave me some very great ideas but then more time with him and so I took him to a place called Sea Life Park in Hawaii where they have sea animal shows and I went to the whale show and it was great and the Dolphin Show and the sea lion show and all of it was great but at the end of the day we went to the penguin show The Penguin's name was fat Freddy and Freddy did all these amazing things he went on the stage climbed a 20 foot high high diving board went to the end bounced jumped in the water I'm like whoa got out B with his nose counted with his flipper jumped through a hook of fire and I have my arm around my son thinking I'm a good dad this is so much fun and then the trainer asked him to go get something asked Freddy to go got something Freddy went and got it and brought it right back and at that moment time Stood Still For Me CU I asked this kid to get something for me and he wants to have a discussion and then he doesn't want to do it and I knew my son was smarter than the penguin so I'm like I'm the problem so I went up to the trainer afterwards I said how did you get Freddy to do all these really cool things she looks at my son and then she looks at me and says unlik parents whenever Freddy does anything like what I want him to do I notice him I give him a hug and I give him a fish and the light went on in my head that when he did what I wanted him to do I really wasn't paying attention but when he didn't do what I wanted him to do I gave him a lot of attention CU I didn't want to raise bad children so I collect Penguins to notice what I like about the people in my life way more than what I don't like and if you really want to connect with your partner notice what you like appreciate what you like you'll find you get a lot more of that back every day you are shaping the behavior of the people around you um by what you pay attention to so because of your busy brain if you just notice this is wrong that's wrong I don't like my body I don't like this about you it's just DEA to everything around you and I I love like little tiny habits the smallest things you can do that make the biggest difference start every day with today is going to be a great day and and every day with what went well today I I notice when I'm irritated with t rather than go I'm irritated about this I find something like I really like that about you like we are fighting over a piece of property like I'm like in my head I'm like why would you want to do that and but that would have been demeaning right I'm like you're really good at thinking about and investing in property and then I didn't criticize her and she went yeah it's probably not a good decision and so M it's interesting how the response will change depending on how you approach it absolutely right it's it's how you say it right there are ways to say things that are demeaning and hurtful and there are ways to say exact the same thing that are encouraging and just like how would I want someone to say that to me and so start your day with what what was it sorry today is going to be a great day today is going to be a great day and then at the end of every day I've even heard you say that on the day that your father passed away you still did that practice Yeah because the brain's lazy and this is a very important point the brain is lazy what you allow it to do it's going to keep doing and so I've done that practice for 13 years and I go to bed I say a prayer and then I go what went well today and I start at the beginning of the day and I sort of go hour by hour looking at what I loved about the day and the day my dad died was the worst day of my life when I went in bed I said a prayer went well and I'm like really we're going to do this today and I did it and my mind immediately went to an interaction between my mom and the police officer that was just funny and tender and sweet and then I went to sleep because I've trained my mind to help me rather rather than allow it to hurt me wow that's so powerful so powerful and we live in a society where people don't train you how to manage your mind how to be mentally strong yeah and that's what you're here for to help us all get mentally strong um okay I'd love to now talk about the biggest the two biggest complaints men have about women and this actually goes into with the what I was talking about like the forgetting right guys you have to keep reminding them but what's interesting is my husband never seems to forget anything that's sexual so he forgets romance or he may forget an anniversary but anything sexual we've been together for 23 years he'll mention something of like our third or fourth date um of something maybe sexual and so one of the biggest complaints guys have about women is that there's not enough sex so what is it then about men and their sex that that is so profound in their lives versus women testosterone the we have not a little more we have way more testosterone and I have uh a friend who a woman who had way too high testosterone level so her doctor gave her testosterone but actually gave her the wrong dose and she actually wrote a book about this and she's like it was so hard being a guy because I couldn't stop thinking about sex so if you have 10 times or 20 times the level of testosterone your brain is going for competition and sex competition and sex and this is why it's so important if your partner is taking testosterone make sure they're checking their level regular because if he takes too much it's the prescription for Force because his libido goes up and his empathy goes down and that's a disaster um have you noticed that that correlates at all with infidelity yes really and you can actually look at a man's fingers and you can look at a woman's fingers it's called the 4D 2D ratio so the fourth finger which is the ring finger the index finger is the second one if even and yours are pretty even means you got a lot of estrogen when you were in your mother's womb if the fourth finger is longer so my fourth finger is longer it means you got testosterone well the the bigger the difference of the fourth digit to the second digit fourth digit is longer I did the big NFL study when uh one of my NFL players his fourth fa was like this his second there was like this and he told me he had more than than a thousand sexual partners it it's testosterone so which finger so this finger here the one by your thumb so fourth finger is one by your your pinky so if your pinky is the fifth finger the fourth finger if it's longer than your second finger than your index finger uh you have more testosterone if they're even then that means you have know more estrogen every woman is going on the date now looking at hands and seeing their fingers right you don't have to have them take off their clothes at all to have a sense but but bigger is not better because they're more likely to have heart disease they're more likely to be unfaithful they're more likely to get divorced so good in fantasy may not be good is who makes the best ad yeah oh yeah that's true um so actually speaking of infidelity I'd love to talk about the difference and um what it is about and I assume it's testosterone right the sex drive but I've also you talk about in your book about how women are less impulsive so you said that earlier so I wonder how much that contributes to men cheating on their spouse more than women because they're more impulsive is that part of it yes and remember men are diagnosed with ADD attention deficit disorder five times more than women add is often a dopamine deficit disorder where women have a higher incidence of depression so they have a serotonin Deficit Disorder so one worry more the other less focus more distracted excitement seeking now plenty of women have ADD but if you're excitement seeking and your frontal loes are weaker which means your break is not as strong and you see a a cute girl you're like oh I should sleep with her as opposed to I love my wife I love my children I don't want to lose half my net worth I mean like practical things that your brain should always be thinking ahead a lot of people go oh I don't want to be anxious anymore it's like a bad goal I want to get your anxiety to about 15 or 20% I want you have enough anxiety you think I had uh rather than no anxiety where you die early so I actually have a quote of yours about so being in a relationship and like let's say you're questioning whether your spouse is uh faithful or not you said women are more aware of Science and their intuition but women are also more emotional which makes them prone to negative thoughts that end up lying to them so I was wondering like as we're talking about this infidelity thing how much complexity there is there where you've got the guy that is potentially more impulsive has less breaks is more risk um you know um Keen to take a risk and then you've got women who the negative thoughts are going in their mind they got they're trusting their gut they're taking in the signals but because their mind is looping and spiraling that we're maybe reading into signs that don't exist so as we start to think about people in relationships what all this complexity how do we start to separate if you will the um as a woman your intuition right like how do you actually start to listen to your intuition and how do you make sure that your emotions aren't lying to you well and intuition is a right hemisphere phenomenon language is generally on the left hemisphere so you may know something's wrong but you can't verbalize it which I think is really interesting the Corpus colossum that's connection between the left and right hemisphere you have this big tra is actually larger and women than it is in men I often say ask yourself for the evidence and write it down so that connects I think something's wrong with the language part of your brain and so if you can search for the evidence rather than um you think something's wrong but you really don't have evidence and it just could be the right side of your brain is working too hard and it may actually be from trauma in the past now it may be real may be real but Trauma from the past tends to get stored in the right side of the brain and so you have more intuition that things are wrong when they may in fact not be wrong and if you harp on it things are going to be wrong because you're creating more stress than needs to be there yeah I I really struggle with this whole with infidelity and cheating I've done more and more episodes on it and I think the reason is for me I've been married for 21 years it doesn't any circumstance any circumstance I would be able to absolutely say no and walk away and I would never cheat on my husband I can say that with such confidence I would never cheat on my husband I would rather if I feel there's a problem in my marriage I'll talk to him about it I would ask him a thousand questions I would go to counseling I would do therapy but the one thing I would never do is cheat don't understand how someone can say I didn't mean to or it was you know it was just a one night thing I didn't mean like I I cannot get my head wrapped around that and so as we're talking about the risk averse versus the people that are willing to take risks or the um you know people who have impulse what is happening where that impulse control can overtake everything that you just said right I love my wife I love my kids how on Earth in that moment can the brain take over so that all the risk everything your entire family everything you've built maybe you spent 20 years with your that you are willing to risk that like that because you don't see the future you just see the moment and that's what your prefrontal cortex does that front third of your brain it sees the future if it's weak for whatever reason say you have too much mercury in your body it'll weaken your prefrontal cortex or you played soccer growing up and you headed a thousand soccer balls you have a weaker prefrontal cortex or you played football or you smoked uh a lot of pot or drank a lot of alcohol weakens your prefrontal cortex so when you're in the moment and you're attracted to someone you just blank on the future and it causes a great amount of emotional pain and so for all of my couples for me what do you want in your relationship I mean know it write it down right in your business you had a business plan and mission statement a business plan but most people in their life they don't have a mission statement and they don't have a plan and so I think to over ride week frontal loes what do you want and tan and I want a kind caring loving supportive passionate relationship and we always want that but we get rude thoughts that show up or my libido's up and hers is down or hers is up and mine's down because of whatever else is going on in your life but if we both have the same goal then we filter all of our actions through that goal so what would you do for people listening like how would you then strengthen your prefrontal cortex um if you know so let's say you're with somebody and you're like yeah they've played soccer and they've done you know 10,000 headers if you don't have the ability to get your brain scanned is it safe then to assume that it is um it needs some help yes and is there evidence in your life short attention span distractability disorganization procrastination impulse control problems so that's signs of a vulnerable or weak prefrontal cortex it's like oh I have to work on strengthening that because affairs often happen after alcohol and it's why you know I'm not a huge fan of alcohol because the problems I see as a psychiatrists probably half of them are related to alcohol in one form or another father drank too much molested a child father drank too much and had unfair drank too much and this bad thing happened uh it's like don't take your frontal loes offline you always want you know if you want to have a great marriage keep your frontal loes working for you it's like oh but I just want to relax but relax right do diaphragmatic breathing meditation hypnosis just don't take your frontal loes offline so if you wanted to not only keep online but you wanted to boost it what are the things you can do so like for those people who played football or headed soccer balls I'm a huge fan of hyperbaric oxygen therapy I did published a study on it and soldiers involved in Blast injury significant Improvement in the prefrontal cortex what is it doing it's increasing blood flow so it actually increases a process called angiogenesis Help the brain make new blood vessels increases stem cell production decreases inflammation but I love it because it makes the brain healthier fatter busier if you will in a good way thank you for breaking that down and I believe also you say that women are generally more empathetic which means that we forgive more so are we more like well maybe they also hold grudges more so but is that tied to it's to empathy or that's tied to something else no they generally have more empathy and or better collaboration seeing things from another person's point of view but if you hurt her feelings she may talk to you about it 15 years from now because her hippocampus so hippocampus is Greek for seahorse it's the major memory structure in the brain it gets things from short-term memory to long-term memory and when it gets damaged people have Alzheimer's disease but her hippocampus is busier tends to be bigger which means she's going to remember if you had that Affair and you really want to be thinking ahead so she's not talking to you about it three decades from now and that's because we have a bigger hippocampus than guys right why why would we what does that serve well cuz you have to remember the berries that were poisonous or um and your sense of smell is more intense female sense of smell is more intense females also have better peripheral vision guys have better tunnel vision now it's very unfair because because your peripheral vision is better you can see a cute guy not turn your head but if I see a cute girl I go like toally get caught because she's got better purple like who are you looking at yeah although I'm fortunate my wife will go oh don't you think she's cute and not get offended by it I heard you say in an interview that when your daughter met a guy the first thing you wanted to do is scan his brain to see if um you would give your blessing or not for them to get together what are you looking for in the guy's brain to see whether he'll be a good partner for your daughter or not it's absolutely true that it's it's not the first thing but if I think you're going to it's like if I think you're going to STI so I usually wait for about four months and if I think you're going to stick I invite you to the clinic in fact I actually don't consider you dating until I've seen your brain and what I'm looking for is whether or not it's healthy because you know people lie about doing drugs and I'm like I want to know is it healthy does it need to be balanced and if it needs to be balanced are you opening are you open to balancing it so I'm looking for how smart the person is how healthy their brain is and do they have the same value that I have my kids have having a healthy brain like when I met my wife uh almost 20 years ago I really liked her she's beautiful she's smart heart my heart would just go fast still goes fast so 3 weeks into our relationship I'm like you haven't seen the clinic don't you want to come see the clinic and she's a Neurosurgical ICU nurse so she loved what I do and we bonded over the brain and we I scanned her and it passed well so you were looking for those things I was looking for exactly those things is it healthy um is she going to drive me crazy and what are you looking for with that woman how busy her frontal loopes are cuz if they're overly busy it's like she's going to whatever I do wrong she's going to beat it to death and that's stressful and wasn't it was it your son whose girlfriend you scanned and you were like yeah don't date her please don't marry her I I'm like and I'm not that kind of father no you don't seem like that you know have a great life let me be helpful to you and I'm like something's wrong don't marry her and he did and it was a disaster really I mean ultimately how happy you are it's a brain function right the brain controls everything you do how you think how you feel how you act how you get along with other people that's the organ of intelligence character and every decision you make those things are Central to relationships and most marital therapists never look at or really think about the brain but if it's not healthy it's really hard to be happy so I saw this couple who failed marital therapy it's one of my favorite stories they got an F they went for three years spent $225,000 and at the end of the three years the therapist said get divorced oh God and so she failed them she gave them an F but they didn't want to be divorced and they got mad at her and she said well I know a doctor in Orange County who takes care of really difficult people you should go see him and when I saw them her brain was healthy his was mothy it was awful one of the worst brains I'd ever seen and in my mind is drug abuse or alcoholism but his history I get a history on people before I see them said never use drugs and didn't drink but the first thing you learned about drug addicts is they lie so in front of his wife I'm like is it true you don't drink and you've never used drugs he said I have a lot of problems that's not it and I looked to the wife and I said is he telling me the truth she said yeah he doesn't drink he's never done drugs he's just an but in my mind I'm like why does his brain look so bad and I'm like where do you work he said I work work in a Furniture Factory I said what do you do he finished his furniture all day long he was doing drugs he was doing the worst drug of abuse for the brain which is inhaling organic solvents and so I took him out of work put him on a rehab program and he was no longer an whoa do they stay together yeah oh my God that's amazing but how do you know unless you walk m right all these couples that are struggling no one's looking at the brain and they just think he's got a character problem he's narcissistic or she's borderliner whatever it is and it's like maybe their brains just be tuned up a little bit better W that's crazy story so a guy's brain I did a research and I love to hear your thoughts on if this is accurate or not in your thoughts on it so I looked up what does a man's brain look like in love from a response standpoint and I'd love for you to maybe even break down what is actually happening number one their judgment is impaired absolutely Las Vegas uses this principle right I mean they have half- naked women giving you alcohol your judgments impaired which means they're going to make a lot more money and when you fall in love it's just like cocaine actually Helen fiser from Ruckers university has done a number of brain Imaging studies new love so the basil ganglia the part of the brain that responds to dopamine goes up and the frontal loes go down wow fascinating um he'll form positive memories well memory is formed with intense emotion positive or negative so which is why Tom is still talking about things from your third date it was that good Dr aan um so you're saying so in so in this circumstance someone's in love it's an intense emotion so they're going to have better memories right okay like I remember everything about the first week of meeting P so um it says that love deact deactivates their fear of social judgment interesting your friends are going no no no and you're like oh no she's right for me which is why don't get married after 8 days in fact I say wait two years to just let the intense emotion sort of normalize in your brain so you can see them for who they really are I wrote a book called The Brain in love and there's actually a whole chapter on how to scream people on a date um and it's like use your head before you give your heart away because when you just fall in love that dopamine rush you don't see the dead animals around the Oasis of love it's like should have seen this should have seen that should have seen this what was the matter with me and it's because dopamine overtook good judgment I got to ask you then what are you doing the screening process what does that look like it's just a series of thought thoughtful questions uh so if we went out I would just want to know what it was like for you as a child and I'd be really good at listening and I'd want to know what your mom was like I'd want to know what your dad was like I wanted to know what kind of sports you play and I want to know what excites you what makes you happy and I'm really paying attention are these things good for the brain or bad for the brain and it doesn't me if they had challenges you throw them away like I said my wife grew up in a very chaotic home um and my first gift to her was 10 sessions of EMDR a specific psychological treatment for trauma she ended up going for two years and it's one of the reasons why we don't fight we don't trigger each other I mean we're respectful of each of our vulnerabilities but uh we don't trigger each other because she worked through hers and I work through mine wow that's amazing I love those question I never thought about asking someone questions to figure out what's happened to their brain in order to understand them better within those dates it's so genius cuz ultimately you want somebody somebody with a reasonably healthy brain if they're going to be the father of your child I mean my my brain thinks ahead right so like I'm nice to my children because I realize at some point they may be taking care of me so you better pay pay your dues now so I'm thinking ahead I don't do too much for them because that'll create entitlement entitled people are never happy but I think it's it's good and teenagers often are not thinking ahead because the front part of their brain is not fully developed until you're 25 and so one thing right away forgive your younger self because your brain wasn't fully developed until you're 25 so if you did really stupid things when you're 18 or 22 it's like forgive that you're a younger self be kind so it seems crazy then that drinking ages 18 in England and uh 21 here really should be 25 once your bra should 25 developed and it's crazy to send kids away to school when they're 18 like um their brain's not finished until they're 25 so take their underdeveloped brain at 18 and put them with a bunch of other underdeveloped brains and in a sorority or a fraternity and you end up with all sorts of stupidity yeah now look when you're 18 you think that you know everything so um okay so another thing is says that men's Brains in love may feel less pain right because they have so many good chemicals going on and their level of oxytocin so it's not just dopamine and serotonin oxytocin which is the bonding hormone in fact I wanted to mention that BEC um so women it goes up significantly with the romance and Manic goes up signific ific L with orgasm and so women need romance in order to have sex men need sex in order to feel connected okay so a man's brain in love could help quit smoking wow he's gotten pleasure from something else uh smoking it's so hard which is like don't start uh vaping is not a healthy form of smoking don't start uh but it just steals the dopamine and changes the pleasure centers in the brain it said they're more impulsive absolutely as your pleasure centers go up but your judgment thoughtful centers go down which is why new love don't trust yourself be patient I must say that once a week to my patient do you really interesting be patient so like don't move in don't do anything drastic don't get tattoo now you know I have a sister that got married to somebody after 8 days and they're still married but uh not recommended yeah um they are extra kind which I guess just makes sense because they're like feeling a little like um they're more emotional well it's the oxytocin and the dopamine that's going up uh unless you threaten their judgment then they're not extra kind it's like do you really think this is a good idea it's like you just don't understand huh this is so fascinating um one of the things that you say about women's Brains is that women are less likely to be in the camp of don't worry be happy so there's this huge study out of Stanford where they looked at 1548 10-year-old children 1921 and then they followed them for 90 years 90 90 wow looking at what goes with heal success and Longevity and the don't worry be happy people died the earliest from accidents and preventable illnesses and why do women live on average 7 years longer than men they worry more men who are married live significantly longer than men who are not married but women who are married do not live longer than women who are not married because they have to take care of men and apparently we're stressful apparently apparently we stressful um you want some anxiety so often men don't have enough and women have too much and so I think you want to get it to about 15 or 20% on a scale of 0 to 100 right more than 40 you're suffering that's not good but zero you're making bad decisions and there's so many bad decisions to make today that you know more than ever before whether it's addicted to your cell phone thinking of alcohol as a health food or marijuana as an Oculus or you know coming up here how many fast food restaurants did I see brand new study out out on Ultra processed foods increase brain damage increase 30 different illnesses including diabetes obesity and cancer so it's hard you more than ever we need healthy frontal loes to make good decisions so you said there's roughly around seven years difference in lifespan um but I've also heard you say that actually the um increase in our lifespan is actually for women slowing down a lot more than it is men why is that I think it's the level of illness that's going on 72% are overweight 42% are obese and you know one thing we haven't talked about yet is women have a higher incidence of dementia and it's like why would that be yes one is they live longer that's the biggest risk for dementia but when you go from having estrogen having estrogen having estrogen to not that drop increases depression increases memory problems decreases blood flow to the brain so I'm a big fan of hormone replacement do you know why your hormones drop with age it's the planet's way of getting rid of you and I don't know about you but I'm not okay with that and you I don't want the testosterone level of a 20-year-old do not need that attic anymore but I'm fine if I have the testosterone of a 40-year-old right for enough to make me vital uh but not so much to make me irritating so what's actually happening then especially with women through you know perimenopause um because I've heard studies that say between 45 and 55 is when it's the highest suicide rate for women and that's when uh many women actually the I can divorce is initiated by women during that 10year period what is happening what up homie I got something free and new to share with you right now how often are you visited by that negative voice in your head telling you that you're not smart enough that you're not good enough experienced enough not fill in the blank one of the most powerful things you can learn to do in life is to turn that negative voice into your besy and I want to teach you how to do that and so much more in my four steps to becoming confidence workshop and guys the most amazing thing is you can actually register for completely free for this Workshop so click the link on your screen and I see you on the inside and did you know of who files for divorce 75% of the time it's women that's crazy and I think that's the right hemisphere seeing problems that they're just much more likely to see it and then with their hormone changes they're much more likely to focus on what's wrong rather than what's right there's another theory that I also think is really interesting before a woman gets pregnant life's really about her but once she gets pregnant her brain remodels itself and it's now about family and protecting the family but when she goes through menopause it's no the brain remodels itself again and it's now about her and you'll frequently hear women say this is my time and that means she's been irritated irritated irritated irritated with him and now of a sudden she's done with him and I'm like balance your hormones and then see if you're still done with him and may maybe you are but there's too much of an investment for at least not to see the contribution to hor moms so what if you haven't had children I mean I assume that it's your hormone still change you go through the par menopause and things like that but if you haven't had that shift then you probably I mean it's an overgeneralization but have been stronger about getting what you need through the whole time and you wouldn't necessarily have that big jolt of a change again because I know that you know people especially a lot of women that I I know they have a really hard time when their kids leave the nest oh huge Tana was when Chloe left and went away to college which I was opposed to she only left first semester Tana was going to get depressed I could see it and I said look I'm going to take off a week a month and we'll just go someplace uh just to try to protect her um it's they lose purpose almost like an athlete that ends their career and it's like if they haven't figured out what they're going to do next they're very vulnerable to depression and so my mom was really good and then she picked up I'm one of seven and after the third one she picked up Golf and she just loved it and that became her life and she was happy for all of us to leave I think because she had what was next and I think that's really important if you're going to retire know what you're going to do next so I understand the why women may leave their husbands around that time but what about suicide what is happening in that because of the depression oh because they see darkness and they see no way out and I often tell my patients suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary feeling and if you're sad and dark and drank alcohol takes the lid off of the break and so I think more than half the people who kill themselves do it while they're drinking so it's actually not uncommon to have Suicidal Thoughts uh but it's uncommon to have suicidal behavior and alcohol of takes a lid off of the break that prevented you uh because people don't see what it does to other people um that suicide just devastates families yeah I just recently been hearing about how women I mean as I get older I'm 44 and so really paying attention to where my hormons are where they're going to be in 5 years where they're going to be in 10 years and just knowing the facts and that's why I'm so fascinated and so grateful for you to be sitting with me just like answering these questions because I I want to know what's coming so that I can preempt it so that I can do all the groundw now and set myself up for success and so me and Tom we talk about literally we've spoken I mean it was like maybe even last week where it's like my hormones are changing I'm 44 so how do we make sure we protect our relationship and so understanding what is happening to me so that we can communicate as is happening is going to be very key for us so I've already went and got my I was telling you off camera I already went and got my hormone panels taken so that I know where I'm I am right now and then also the thing that I'm talking to Tom about is how he can change in his communication with me as I go through this transition because I'm going to assume that as my hormones change are um the things that he would say to me the way he would say it I may start to interpret them in a different way and so we're trying to work on that communication what else can I start to maybe think through or anyone listening that maybe at that age um in order to set ourself up for a great relationship feel good about ourselves and you know not have that depression that you're talking about and also protect ourselves from Alzheimer's because women are so much more likely to well and I think since you and I met you have fallen in love more with your own brain right treating it better and then not believing every stupid thing you think so it's building these brain health and emotional health skills that will serve you no matter where your hormones are but being smart enough to know let me keep my hormones at a healthy level and let me make sure my brain's as healthy as it can be and very few people think about it but when I see the studies on estrogen for example and they look at 60-year-old brains with estrogen versus 60-year-old brains without estrogen you see the problem that without estrogen your brain looks older than you are and it's not good for you so what would you suggest people can do then on like a daily habits um in order if they're around that time like what can you do to actually boost your estrogen watch your products that you put on your body because arabin and phalates are hormone disruptors so that's a very bad thing and we can't forget that women need testosterone that a lot of the products that you put on your body steal your hormones they're actually called hormone disruptors parabens thades fragrance and just scan all of your personal products there's an app I like called think dirty and just lets you scan them and are these healthy for me or they not healthy and ultimately it comes down to the mother question is this good for my brain or bad for it whatever I do this is good for my brain or bad for it and I have a pneumonic in all my books called bright Minds keep your brain healthy or rescue it you have to prevent or treat the 11 major risk factors that steal your mind in the end is neurobrain hormones get them tested every year so the simple question is this good for my brain or bad for it but that means what you eat what you think what you watch what you listen to and what you put on your body just be thoughtful is this helping me or is it hurting um thank you for that I think that those sorts of things and just being able to in real time change your behavior and since I last saw you I downloaded the app and now I scan everything to make sure with my moisturizer and things like that um and then obviously I'm sure diet as well makes a huge difference which I'm very pay attention to but um is there any type of like uh food item that is the most disruptive well I think the most disruptive is sugar and foods that quickly turn to sugar so there's this study uh at the Mayo Clinic people who have a fat-based diet avocados nuts and seeds salmon green leafy vegetables healthy oils have 42% less risk of getting Alzheimer's disease people who have a simple carbohydrate-based diet the standard American diet bread pasta potatoes rice fruit juice sugar have a 400% increased risk of getting Alzheimer's disease it's the food and we live in a society where the food is awful uh for us that you know think of Fruit Loops for kids in the morning or um Frosted Flakes or Donuts pastries go to the office and they have crap uh in the form of sugar and bad fat and it's a disaster we need to be really thoughtful if we love ourselves right I mean ultimately it's not what you should or shouldn't do it's how much do you love yourself and I love my six kids but I never want to have to live with them right so like you're forward thinking I'm Forward Thinking how do I keep my brain and my Independence for as long as possible I love my brain and I think the knowledge of it then allows you to make the change because I my mom had a brain surgery last year and I was talking to you about it and getting your advice and when I was there so my mom's in her 70s she has a brain aneurysm so they they're doing uh they're clamping her and she just had the operation so she's got her head all baned up they had to cut her skull open like they did the whole shebang and they come and they offer her pancakes for breakfast and I know your work we had just been speaking you were also just on the show and so I pulled the doctor aside and I said excuse me can you explain to me why you're trying to give my mom sugar and they're like well she needs to eat I'm like but not sugar and they're like well actually so I just very politely stopped them and I said do you know who Dr aan is if you don't you should look him up I was like he's got the aan clinic in America and I was just with him and he taught me about what inflames the brain and he told me that Sugar inflames the brain and they were like oh and I said okay let's just go to First principles cuz I was trying to be very polite but because you had taught me I went in there with such strong conviction and so I said let's just talk with first principles do you agree that sugar isn't inflammatory yes or no they're like yes okay great do you think that my mom who's in her 70s that just had a brain operation should have an inflamed brain yes or no no so why are you offering my mom sugar and they didn't have an answer and they afterwards the woman one of the women came up to me she just whispered to me she's like I'm so glad you said it she's like it's a battle we've been facing for years but like the hospital just insist and so I just went okay from now on I'm going to order my mom's food mom do you AG she's all bandaged up and she's like yes whatever you like and so I was like okay I'm going to order my mom's food and every single day I ordered her food for her and she'll heal faster mhm it it's insane when you think of the food they feed children at school what we give employees at work what they feed to hospitalize patients it's like did nobody go to medical school but in my whole Medical School career I got 16 hours of Nutri even though poor quality food creates probably 50% of the problems you know 75% of the health care dollars in America are spent on chronic preventable illnesses that should really irritate some people is we can prevent it if we can get our food right yeah and it comes to the knowledge because if you're going to a hospital and they're like hey I have pancakes why would you not trust them to be feeding you the right Foods and so that's why I'm just going to keep saying it like your work is so profound and people need to listen to it they need to look into your world because the brain is the thing that no one can see right it's like we all know um like wrinkles in England and in Europe on cigarette packages they have to put photos legally of people to say like stop smoking and they would do these photos of like someone getting like a lung transplant and someone in the hospital with tubes out of them and then one time all of a sudden they put a woman's face with wrinkles on it the amount of women they're like I'm not touching those because they could see it and it becomes a um it's a vanity thing let's just admit it let's just be honest and so if there was a way that you could see your brain on the outside um I think a lot of people would probably love their brains more well that's why I do imaging that's how I fell in love with imaging because when I saw mine and it wasn't healthy I'm like oh no we have to make this better right motivation but when my par my patients see it their guilt and shame about whatever reason they came to see me vanished like oh this is a medical problem not a moral problem and oh by the way I can make it better and it's really the sign of intelligent life if you see your brain is troubled well let's make it better and that's sort of the exciting news of my work you're not stuck with the brain you have you can make it better I can prove it you said this early and I didn't want to interrupt you but you also said you can like don't trust your thoughts explain that to me thoughts come from all sorts of places they come from our ancestors they actually get transmitted in this process called epigenetics uh they come from the voices of our moms and dad from our friends from our FES from the music we listen to to the news we watch and they're creations of our brain and they lie just because you have a thought has nothing to do with whether or not it's true whether or not it's loving whether or not it's helpful but there's nowhere in school they teach us not to believe every stupid thing we think and so in all of my books I teach people about killing the ants the automatic negative thoughts that steal their happiness was about 30 years ago I was in my office and it was a bad day or a stressful day I saw four suicidal patients I saw two couples who hated each other and two kids who'd run away from home and I come home to an ant infestation in my house and as I'm cleaning up all these ants murdering all these ants like actually ants actually ants oh oh oh so infestation in the home I'm like and you know when you go to medical school you have to learn 50,000 new terms the first year and so we're always making doing games with our brain and learning new things like pneumonics and acronyms and I'm like ants ants automatic negative thoughts my patients are infested and so I brought a can of ant spray and put it on my coffee table in my office the next day at work and I'm like I'm going to teach you to kill the ants and antt spray is not really all that helpful so I got an ant puppet and then I got an ante eater puppet and I'm like we're going to get rid of the ants and one of my first patients I did this with was an 8-year-old boy that had a panic disorder and I taught him to kill the ants and 3 weeks later I saw him back and I said how are the ants he say it's an ant ghost town in my head so don't believe everything you think whenever you feel sad or mad or nervous or out of control write it down and then just ask yourself whether or not it's true and then flip it to the opposite of the ant and meditate on the opposite of the thought we train our brain every day to be positive or negative which is why I start every day with today is going to be a great day end every day with what went well and when I get a thought that bothers me I write it down and I just don't believe what I think your brain is a sne n organ all of us have weird crazy stupid sexual violent thoughts that nobody should ever hear and when you have a good prefrontal cortex you don't say those things I say it to my patients all the time don't say everything you think yeah it's an interview where you were saying something like it's like when you see someone walking down the street with a heavy box sometimes you think maybe what would happen if I trip him but it's like don't actually trip him but having the thought doesn't make you a cool person doesn't make you a criminal but too often because we had bad thoughts when we were young and we suppressed them people carry this chronic sense of being bad and they never did any bad thing but they had the idea well if I thought that then I'm a bad person and I'm like everybody has crazy thoughts just don't act on them especially if you have a judgmental mind and so now you have the th and you're judging yourself for the th and now it's this spiral that you even said where when women's Brains are busy you can see how we actually go down and spiral and spiral right and you get out of the Spiral by writing it down and if you do this process so kill the ants write down the thought identify there's eight different nine different ant species like four telling mind reading blame guilt beating labeling so there's all sorts of I talk about this in my work so identify what kind of ant it is and talk back to it right I don't know if you were good at talking back to your parents when you were a teenager uh not really I was very obedient I was excellent but I never learned to talk back to myself just because you have a thought has nothing to do with whether or not it's true and I want you to treat yourself like a good parent would or a good coach would or good friend I've been uh I got to do some Consulting work for the Miami Heat and Eric spoler is one of the best coaches in the NBA he notices what his players do right and teaches them when they could do better and I also have this Olympic Athlete I love so much Alicia Newman she's was the World indoor pole balting champion last year and she's so special to me and every tournament she wins or she learns and every day if you have that mindset I win or I learn then you stop attacking yourself attacking yourself is just abusive it's not helpful yeah thank you for saying that um speaking to your clients you have a lot of not notoriety around some of the people that you've uh whose brains you've scanned uh being Miley Cyrus and Justin Bieber what do you notice on child stars that have had that much uh Fame at such an early age well I get goosebumps thinking about Miley right now her song flowers uh song of the year makes you because Flowers is about self-love and when you grow up like those two did I mean it just depletes your dopamine and it puts them under such chronic stress that both of them nearly lost their lives and I'm so proud of them because they're doing so much better but you know flowers is just such a great example of how you can turn your life around and Miley's the CEO that's the prefrontal cortex of her life and she stopped doing things that hurt her brain and started doing things that help her brain and you know she's a historic Entertainer and when you say um depleted their dopamine um do you mind breaking that down so Fame is felt in the dopamine centers of the pleasure centers of your brain wow people recognize me but if you hit those centers it's like that rush you get that rush and then all of a sudden with that rush comes a lot of anxiety people are watching me everything I do is scrutinizing me and both of them had worldwide Fame and both of them had worldwide shame and so it's so unbalancing but when your nucleus succumbent are those pleasures cers get hit with dopamine a little bit is awesome cuz it just makes you feel good a lot over time wears them out and then you need more and more excitement in order to feel anything at all so many young stars then turn to drug abuse to try to feel normal and it doesn't work right I mean it makes you feel better in the short run and way worse in the long run now bringing it to let's say your everyday person is that what's happening let's say with alcohol or drugs and why some people say oh marijuana leads to hard cocaine because some people have that they're always seeking that more dopamine here and if they do too much but even more toxic is cell phones it's every time you get a notification it's like a little dopamine buz and then pretty soon did you see this study where 54% of teenage girls report being persistantly sad 32% of teenage girls have thought of killing themselves 24% have plan to kill themselves and 133% have tried to kill themselves there is not one thing about this that's okay and if you look at the toxic gadgets that are addictive you look at the toxic products we put on their bodies we talk the toxic food that they have access to it's the prescription for this nightmare we're living in where last year there were 337 million prescriptions written for anti-depressants 25% of women are on anti-depressants this is not okay and then we haven't talked about birth control pills if you're on a birth control pill that just increas inrease your risk of depression 40% so you already have a 2 and 1 half time increased risk of depression compared to males birth control pills raise that further and then we have the dopamine depletion from social media negative news Ultra processed foods uh a show have you them projected forward I mean what are are let's say 20-year-olds who've had social media for you know 10 years what's their brain going to look like at the age of 40 and 50 well I'm hoping that we can create a brain Revolution so that's my goal the reason I think I'm on the planet is to end the concept of mental illness I hate the term mental illness call somebody mental you shame them call them a brain you elevate them so uh um what if mental health was really brain health so that's the reason I do what I do we see this problem and it's clearly a problem that's escalating the way out is through brain health the way out is loving your brain and taking care of it by limiting your social media Time by eating healthy food by not putting toxic products on your body and not believe in every stupid thing you think all right Dr Daniel aan this has been amazing you've got I believe over 40 books that you've written um where can people find you and then your new book raising mentally strong kids um they can find it anywhere great books are sold Amazon Barnes & Noble if you want to learn why women are more likely to suffer from brain diseases like Alzheimer's then keep watching I have a family history of Alzheimer's disease that really affects the women in my family and I always wanted to study the brain so as soon as I was able to I started asking questions like is it just my family is it everybody and back then people will say to me well you know after aging itself being a woman is the most significant risk factor for developing Alzheimer's disease however doesn't really matter because women live longer than men and Alzheimer's is a disease of old age so it's really just the women live longer and huh okay but then you look at the numbers and women don't live that much longer than men like in the United States the difference is four years not 20 in England the difference is two and a half years and Alzheimer's disease or dementia is the number number one cause of death only for women and not for men so there's something more clearly right and we started looking into that years ago and long story short we show that number one not just us but scientists show that Alzheimer disease is not a disease of old age but starts in midlife with negative changes to the brain that then eventually lead to the symptoms of Alzheimer's disease the memory the confusion all those kind of issues in midlife is any age from 35 to 65 and so so it's not midlife it's a fuzzy 60y old thing it's like 35 40 years old you're middleaged just for C it was just frightening yeah yeah but then that changed the question my question then was okay if Alim dis starts in midlife what is it that happens only to women and not to men in midlife that could potentially trigger Alzheimer's diseases in woman's brain yeah and we're show that the answer is menopause and losing your hormones which really was very very unexpected and change the way that we work and that we think about prevention so I think it's really about women's Brains not just Alzheimer's or menopause or this or that it's more about getting a sense of the full picture yeah and look to me I'm always how do I get the full picture the accurate information so that I can then adjust accordingly right it's it's like what life do I want and then how do I act in my current life in order to set me up for future successes and so when I think about how cognitively aware I want to be for my entire life and then what are the things that I'm doing now and not just showing up now to have Clarity of mind and you know to have a good memory but also for the long term you talk about the three pce so you've got puberty pregnancy and then premenopausal Pim menopause ped menopause um so can you actually take us through so let's say you're going through puberty what is happening to the brain there and so that we can kind of break it down and then yeah then we'll talk about the pregnancy part yes so during puberty puberty is like an explosion of hormonal power because this is really when your ovaries basically turn on and they start producing hormones that give you a menstrual cycle and those allow you to get pregnant and that's been happening earlier earlier on in life at this point some some girls uh go through puberty when they're 11 the average age is 12 and that is a huge change not just for the body but also inside the brain and you would think that all these hormones would have a sort of boosting effect on the brain right but when you actually do brain scans and you look at the brain of adolescents the brain is shrinking as you get older as you get older your brain is shrinking even though your body is growing at that stage and the lot of connections between neurons are discarded with a process that is called pruning because what happens when you're born is that your brain just shoots out neurons the whole time and all these neurons form connections with other neurons they called synapses but many of these connections at some point are no longer useful because your brain can go on a pilot right by the time you're 12 you know how to ride a bike you know how to tie your shoes you know how to make your own lunch so all those connections can go and make room for new connections they're mostly related to social cognition and really becoming a member of society so you need to grow brain regions so some brain regions shrink because they're no longer needed those neurons are not needed anymore but other brain regions actually grow like the memory center of the brain grows the emotional center of the brain is called the amida that also grows the frontal cortex which is in charge of judgment planning and reasoning and controlling instincts and impulses also grows a lot during adolescence is that grow in a different way to then the XY brain the male brain yes so these connections are stronger in girls in teenage girls they develop earlier on in life relative to boys brains and that has been interpreted as girls reaching maturity intellectual a little bit earlier on the men but also mostly about being more on top of things and like being better judging the situation and also being able ble to manage risks a little bit more effectively and at that point your verbal abilities are also better as a girl language is more developed and a few other things and again these differences are subtle and there's no need to overemphasize them but it is interesting to see that the trajectory of development is are a little bit different between does that have a knock on effect depending on them when you get as a female when you get your period so like if you got your later would your brain develop later partially so what happens with the menstrual cycle is that as the hormones change and fluctuate throughout the month so does your brain and so do your brain connections so when estrogen levels are highest which is right before ovulation that's literally when you can see which is incredible you can see the synapses firing up and dendroides growing dendroides so neurons look like trees a little bit and the branches are called dendroides you can see these branches literally growing and expanding right before ovulation and then withdraw when your estrogen goes down before menstruation so even throughout the menstrual cycle the brain changes on a weekly if not daily basis and granted they not huge changes but they are significant enough for some women to feel the change right so many women are intuitively aware that their mood changes throughout the menstrual cycle that their focus is different their energy is different and that's in part hormonal and import is literally that your brain is changing along with you your reproductive organs and it's wonderful and that is pretty much stable throughout a woman reproductive life until you get pregnant I think what what we're missing in general is the fact that people are organisms because Western medicine is always about Specialties you either understand the brain or you understand right yes right you like I am a brain person and they never ever thought I would be talking about hormones or ovaries and if I talk to my OBGYN colleagues which I do daily at this point they don't really know what to do with their brains you know they don't manage brain health they don't manage brain they don't know how to read a brain scan but in reality this is this is a system that that works as a system and changes at the same time and whatever happens to your uies has an impact in your brain Lisa this is why this discussion is so important and your book is so amazing um so I've had a lot of health issues in my gut and I've been battling them for now probably over over six years and when it first started happening I had gut issues I couldn't eat I hadn't had a period um I was always tired always brain fog and every time I would go to a doctor if I went to you know the gut specialist oh I've got a tablet for that but then over here if I'd go to my you know gynecologist it was something else and I'm like guys there seems like there's a connection C here you know and it's just like but no one is like they're like oh no one was talking to each other and so I think it is so freaking important what you're saying because I'm all about empowerment how do I Empower myself with knowledge so that I can approach any situation that I'm looking for with the knowledge and then I can adjust right so if it's I want to feel extremely confident today I know that my hormones have to do with it and I know that by looking at the cycle or where I am in my cycle I can determine where whether this is a good time for me to step up and be confident or actually it's a time to self soothe and relax and take it more easy and we don't talk enough about that because and I've even heard you say it's like a freaking superpower yes yeah I think it's a superpower I think if we were just educated and and we had the information and the knowledge we could really use it to our advantage because it's important even just just exactly what you were saying when you said L now how much coffee are you going to drink today doesn't matter did you notice that there's if you drink the same amount of coffee before ovulation and after ovulation the effect is going to be completely different do you mind if we dive deep in that because that's the sort of the stuff so thank you for bringing that up so you've spoken about um so it when it comes to optimization there's diet there's supplements exercise stress and sleep so I'd love to go deep on into those um and then we definitely will talk about the pregnancy because that is so important that I definitely want to make sure that we touch that um but you so let's talk about diet for for starters I I love talking about diet in part because it's a very powerful tool that we have because everybody eats every day right so we're all as a society we we're comfortable with the idea that we feed our bodies and that our diet will reflect into what kind of clothing we will you we will wear or you know a certain body weight or body time but the truth is that the same exact foods that change your body also really impact the functionality of the brain so the way that we resp that the body response to stimulants changes throughout the cycle okay in that when your estral levels are high which is the week before ovulation and the a few days afterwards then the stimulant would really have a good positive effect so if your estrogen is high you have a lot of energy you don't need as much coffee and you feel the effects more strongly okay but in the second part of the cycle you'll need three times more coffee to achieve the same level of alert three times is is is ballpark I just mean still though I mean that's yeah look it's still a lot yeah it's still a lot I mean you you'll need more you'll need more caffeine to have the same kind of response and that's why many women will drink too much coffee and then you get the Jitter so you don't feel so good that you actually feel tired because you have exceeded your threshold so I think this is important to to keep in mind and something I like to do personally during the second half of the cycle is that I switch to cacao tea I love coffee oh interesting yes let tell so my is important to me but sometimes if I feel like tired and there's no reason for me to be tired then I'll be like oh maybe you know it's a specific kind moment of the month and maybe I want to switch to something more gentle actually just recently I was like why do I want the caca so much and I think in part is the is the fact that it gives you more energy for longer periods of time especially if you mix it so caffeine and theob bromine which is the antioxidant that's found in cacao powder they're both vasod dilating nutrients so they improve blood flow to the brain the difference is that the action the half-life caffeine is shorter so the fat goes away a little bit faster and also it impacts heart rate where whereas the theob bromine in Ro caca has a gentler effect it is more sustained over time a little bit like tea if you drink black tea you don't get the rush of energy but you'll be up at night you're drink so kind of like that and also if you mix it with something that contains a little bit of fat like either milk if you drink milk or oat milk or you know whatever you like that contains a bit of fat that will slow down the release of the caffeine or the theob bromin to to the brain giving you more energy over time yeah which is one of theas that the Bulletproof Coffee works so well so for women we need to be a little bit more careful or just a little bit more aware especially those who do have sensitivity to stimulant the same goes for alcohol that's fascinating um are there any foods so you mentioned like antioxidants so is it a better time to eat like more blueberries in your cycle I actually I was well yeah I think you want to eat even more antioxidants and ion compound you know foods can contain ion and minerals is towards the end of your cycle as you prepare for menstruation oh yeah you know it's very depleting to have a menstrual cycle so it's really important I think to replenish all the nutrients and and be sure to support your body because there's also an inflammatory component right so the antioxidants that double down as anti-inflammatory nutrients are very helpful in that respect see there's so much more to food than just food food is information and food is function and and one of the functionalities of food is that very specific nutrients can literally speak to our cells so for example omega-3 fatty acids and everybody's aware that omega-3 fatty acids are good for you they're good for your body they're good for your brain they're good for your heart they mostly have anti-inflammatory capacities and one way they they do so is that they literally speak to your DNA in your cells and tell them and they would be like okay I'm here you don't have to produce that many anti-inflammatory compounds because I'm in the circulation whereas if it's not present then your DNA will know that it needs to make more anti-inflammatory enzymes to to balance it out so there's always a relationship between the foods that we eat and the way that their body needs to respond and either upgrade the production of certain things or D regulate it I find it fascinating and it's the same in the brain yeah I find that fascinating too and there's just something different though about the body it speaks to you you know like Oh My My Shoulder aches right and you're like what did I do and you like think about what you did and you know it's so very specific in the moment but like the brain even just like reading your book and understanding what we're doing now has like 30e effect you know effects on you 30 years later like that really becomes um very enlightening and to make sure that I'm trying to eat the right things right now so you've said about the diet during the cycle you mentioned omega-3 um would you suggest an Omega 6 is that right or just three yeah so usually we recommend the balance between Omega and Omega 6 um the point is that the Western diet typical Western diet contains a ton of omega-6 fatty acids and very little of the Omega-3s so I think it's helpful to focus on foods that contain more Omega-3s and trying to eat less of those that are very high in Omega 6 compounds you want a 2: One ratio whereas the typical Western diet is a 20 to1 ratio in favor of the Omega 6 or even higher than that because of all the oils and all the refined oils and all the peanuts and meat and what not so fish is a good source of omega-3 fatty acids fish shellfish um you don't have to necessarily eat fish a lot of people don't like it some people don't want to eat it because of environmental concerns and whatnot so there are plant-based sources of Omega-3s they're really great I had switched from my beloved extra virgin olive oil to flex oil so one tablespoon of FX oil contains almost all the Omega-3s you need for ala so you actually should have a little bit more for your brain because alas are the plant-based Omega-3s but they need to be converted into DHA and EPA and about 70% of the fat is lost in the conversion so you actually have to eat more so then you go for hemp seed or um flax seeds or chickpeas or legumes or something like that some nuts and seeds and then back to the olive oil for dinner yeah I'll do a bit of a blend um so okay that's fascinating and so if you're unable to get it from Natural Foods um I assume supplements is the next best thing yes I would say so if you're concerned that your diet might be too low in this nutrients then supplements are definitely recommended what I would say is that supplements should not replace a healthy diet and I find that sometimes people would much rather get the supplements than eat healthily and that kind of defeats the purpose right so it's best to really focus on having a healthy diet and the diverse diet with all sorts of foods and nutrients and supplements as a backup I would say that would be my backup plan lots of patients would come to us and say give me something you know whether a supplement or something like well let let's do some tests first and see if your levels are actually low because otherwise supplements don't work they only work if they're supplementing which means that you have to be low in the nutrients first in order for the supplement to have a benefit for you so I think it's important to know yourself know your numbers I think in medicine will switch into a Precision medicine approach where instead of treating the average person or to treat a person as a point in a regression line you know we actually want to understand the person in front of us and and do all the tests that we can do and understand your physiology and then interact with your physiology in a way that that is helpful to you I think that's so important yeah CU that's the thing especially so I've been married to my husband now for almost 20 years and you know when he's when he's taking know vitamin D and he's taking all these supplements and it you know originally I was just copying whatever he was doing so everything that you're talking about is being very um catered to you I think is so spot on um so I love that um but now let's talk about exercise because I heard you say and it's so true where you have let's say like the woman wants to like lose weight right and so she's like changes her diet and she goes on like these sprs and does all these exercises and like loses half a pound and then you got the guy that just quits soda and doesn't change his exercise routine at all and then ends up losing 20 pounds So that obviously can be very frustrating but I think it's actually important to discuss what is happening to a female um what exercises can we do that is good for our brains um so yeah if you can take us down there that would be great I think that is really important exercise is the same as diet there's no one size that fits all and it's very personal and it depends it depends on what your goals are if we're thinking about the brain yeah then what's really important is not intensity as much as consistency this is what the research on exercise and brain health shows then the key is really obviously if you if you can go higher intensity and it's enjoyable to you and you can do it good absolutely nobody's going to stop you believe me but the problem especially in the United States is that people don't exercise that much to start with and especially for women there's a very sharp decline in the amount of time that is devoted to exercise even just moving just being physically active as soon as we're past college right because of whatever reasons in societies and demands and growing a family and just holding a job and what not women just don't make as much time for exercise as they do for other things what is important is to make exercise a routine part of your Wellness Plan right so to speak and it's very hard to do that it's honestly very hard but what the brain wants at a minimum it's a moderate intensity exercise and the need for frequency ranges between three and five times a week most experts recommend at least 45 minutes of moderate intensity exercise three to five times a week if you can do five is better than three if you can do three is better than none so I think it's just important to be gentle with yourself and really understand whether or not the specific routine fits into your everyday life and make it sustainable women who are Physically Active after the age of 35 have a 30% lower risk of Dementia in old age than women who are sedentary 30% is insane one in three that is very important if we had drugs the lowered your risk of Dementia in old age by 30% it would be FDA approved tomorrow and everybody would take it right instead we don't have it we don't have that drug but we can exercise so we always recommend this to our patient just find the exercise routine that works for you that you like you need to have your you need to get your heart beating faster that that is key you know yes walking is lovely but then walk faster you have to challenge your cardiovascular system so that the brain can experience an increase in blood blood flow more oxygen more nutrients more resilience because the brain contains a huge amount of veins basically you know the vasculature of the brain is incredible you need to support it and and you do it by keeping your heart strong and your entire system strong so brisk walk five times a week three times a week great if you can do something more clinical trials of exercise has shown that some parts of your brain brain can actually regrow oh my God yeah like the memory center of the brain the hippocampus actually did not show any decline if people were walking fast this where elderly people were just walking fast very often like throughout the week and actually in some cases show showed a bit of um rebound I mean that's so beautiful like valuable information so I am always looking at how do I show up tomorrow morning right how do I show up today in the best way that I possibly can um if I have to look at my hormones and amazing if I have to look at like what are the things I need to look at in order to protect my brain so I can show up being able to make business decisions being able to be um emotionally like sober or like to call it so that I can have um maybe some conflicts in the day that it doesn't spill me over emotionally like how do I show up to be strong and confident like everything we're talking about um is about the now but then also Al what are the things that I can do for to help my the future Lisa in me that's going to get there right like the hope is that I do live long enough to be 95 years old so what are you know what are the things so exercise is fantastic diet supplement let's talk about stress stress is we all know that you know especially now these days stress isn't good for you it gets you know it's actually causing you know early heart attacks and strokes and things like that but I've actually heard you say that stress is actually harder on females than it is on males can you talk to me about that cuz that was fascinating yes uh what happens in reality is that stress Works in balance with our sex hormones so the way that the body reacts to stress is by increasing the production of a hormone called cortisol which is the main stress hormone and the way that the brain is the body and the brain is able to do that is by sinking or reducing the production of your sex hormons because they they all come from the same precursor for your brain and your body to be able to increase the production of cortisol that means suppressing the production of sex hormones like estrodial and progesterone when that happens as a woman you don't feel great because your brain is literally wired to be activated in part by the estrogen especially the estrogen but also the progesterone because estrogen is an activator for the brain is a neuroprotective hormone that has a very boosting effect on brain energy level so when your cortisol goes up your estral goes down and your brain suffers and then new studies with brain scans that they use brain scans to look at this relationship has shown that chronic stress so not just acute occasional stress but chronic stress increases cortisol levels in a way this is quite persistent and that really has deleterious effect on memory performance already in M life so starting at age 35 especially in women and that gets worse after women go through menopause because then the high cortisol actually correlates with brain shrinkage only in women wow yes that is bad news that is very bad news because I tell any woman who's not under stress most likely chronic stress like you turn 35 and you're stressed out and that is unlikely to get better unless you really put an effort and come up with strategies to reduce stress so reducing stress doesn't just save your day also really saves your brain for the long term so I think it's really important for all of us to just take a collective s you know and just acknowledge the fact that we're all under stress and that we need to we really need to prioritize reducing stress is a very important brain protective strategy and we I think we're all aware that well-being is a skill right we know that cultivating well-being is really a skill and is a very much an urgent Public Health need but we're not given the tools to do that we we have a million different tools to take care of our hair to take care of our skin right for our bodies to look a certain way go to the gym there all there's all sorts of Contraptions available but very little has been done for people to really have the tools to cultivate mental health and well-being and we live in a in a society that consistently prioritizes Pride activity and just soldering on and and and just stuffing up instead but distressing and taking time for yourself and I think especially as women we need to do that because a woman has no time for herself and Men could say well we don't have either yeah but but we might have less right and it just starts as soon as you leave school and you find a job that you literally sandwiched between responsibilities and there's so many expectations say you have to work so hard just to keep your role in society and just to keep your job you have to fight for equal rights and equal pay and you're under stress so so we need to find Solutions against stress I I really Str to that I'm not good at it by the way so that's the thing okay so let's say everything you're saying right completely agree with you agree with too but we both know we're not great at it so what are the things because everyone listening I'm sure is thinking the same right it's like oh my God I get it yes it's really detrimental way worse than I think we ever thought it was um and so now it's like but how do we actually monitor that and live a life right where we live a life where we can get on with our lives that we're not you know like for instance running a business and doing a show like women of impath it's freaking stressful but I love it right but it's it's it's filling my heart it's my mission it's my purpose so I go I'm not going to stop it but I recognize that stress is very detrimental to my health and how I show up and how I'm going to be at 90 years old so what are the things that we can do just to keep an eye that doesn't become an entire life change because I wish it could be everyone could do Life Changes we all magically changed the way that we live and we're all good and now we're managing our stress we all know that's not a reality so what are the things in reality knowing all the things you have to go through knowing all the things I have to go through that we can do maybe on a day-to-day basis that can help alleviate that so that we don't blink and in 5 10 years we're a big ball of stress and we can't unwind it yeah and we have no brains left yes yeah uh I think the best answers are EX exercise sleep meditation these are really the most effective things that one can do diet is also effective I think but exercise is a must exercise in booster endorphins reduces inflammation and blends your response to stress it makes you better at responding to stress so exercise is a big deal I think actually in that case yoga or that kind of Mind Body techniques would also be really helpful if it's your thing for me really helps I I'm I have a hard time sitting still and I had to sit a lot so when when I'm able to move i' rather do something fast like running or I actually invested in a small elliptical machine that can keep literally next door so whenever I'm in a meeting that I don't have to have video on for I'll just be on eliptical or going for walk if you can being in nature actually being in nature has been shown to have wonderful effects on on stress levels my daughter is very outdoorsy and so weekends we try to go for walks and we have a little Forest nearby that she lik that is very nice and another thing is really meditation and I I do encourage meditation for kids as well like my daughter meditates with me and night we have these little meditations for children as an app that they really like that she love and little stories but that really has changed my life so I don't know I would just recommend Jack cornfield I don't know if you're familiar with fantastic and meditations for beginners they're guided meditations and just his voice is just so soothing and so real like he really walks his talk that I really enjoy that and then he wrote books and you know there are other people who who do this kind of work and it's very very helpful and meditation is like exercise you need to find the kind of meditation that really works for you yeah so for me is Insight Meditation mindfulness meditation but there's so many other options and there are people who like to do that with apps I personally don't except for my child but there are a ton of apps that can really help it's the same as sleep you know sleep kind of got the bad wrap in the sense of like oh well that's the thing you can skip that's the thing you don't have to focus on um talk to me about actually the the impact of sleep on our brains M and sleep is really like one of the last Frontiers in a way because we We Now understand the importance of sleep for brain health there are many different things that happen during sleep one that is very important is that the brain is able to reduce inflammation when we're sleeping and the other one is that it's really it's literally the only chance that the brain has to take care of itself so sleep is me time for the brain and sleep goes in Cycles right there are different phases of sleep that start with you know when you're just falling asleep there's sleepiness you start having dreams but then you go through a phase where you have no dreams so your body is completely still and that is this low wave sleep phase or the Deep Sleep phase that is followed by RM sleep when we have dreams but that phase when we're completely still and the brain is not dreaming is actually the crucial component to sleep in terms of health and well-being because that is really when the brain activates it's like the brain is your mom and says okay the kids are are down for the night I can take a shower I just can take care of myself and literally the brain is like oh every everybody's quiet the house is SK I'm going to turn on this new system the glymphatic system that is like a dishwasher it there's literally Jets of water of fluid that open up in the brain and remove it's like power wash your brain so that all the toxins all the impurities all the waste products even Alzheimer's plaques are removed then we're awake and we're moving we're doing stuff there are this this um micral cells in the brain that just pick up all these bits and pieces they need to be getting rid of and if you're not getting that phase of your sleep then you're going to miss out on a huge opportunity for the brain to really heal itself that's amazing have you noticed then a correlation between um a cognitive decline and people getting less and less rest Yes Yes actually there's there's a the strong evidence that sleep deprivation or even just fragmented sleep when you keep waking up multiple times at night is associated with the development of Alzheimer's disease in the brain already in the 50s and it's not just Alzheimer's there's also inflammation there there's basically I think that when it comes to Lifestyle I think what we're understanding is that if you don't have a healthy lifestyle you're enabling all your risks to become actual medical issues in a way whereas if you have a strong healthy lifestyle you're eff L reducing this this risk and keeping the risks under control almost on a daily basis so it's a preventative in that respect that you're really avoiding issues and you're keeping your jeans a bay you know way I love that okay I'm going to ask you a really hard question right now it may be easy for you though I don't know um so I live my health issues but I have lived a very healthy lifestyle um with the health issues I've definitely changed my life I've changed the way that I eat I changed my lifestyle like everything the way I sleep everything but I've chosen to not have children and I've heard you say in your book where you break down so we you know going back to the subject we were saying earlier about how pregnancy like these the three PS right the the puberty and the pregnancy and that the pregnancy um whether you've had a baby or whether you've gone through those hormonal changes or not actually has an effect on your future brain and Alzheimer's and things like that so I literally as I was reading your book I was like I really wanted to know the answer and you can be very honest with me but was is not having children a possible um detriment to my brain health as I age no our research and other people's research have shown that women who have children have a little bit more protection against Alzheimer's disease as compared to women who don't have children women have who have more than five but it's not Universal what I what I want to clarify this is observation this is just you know it's not that you need to have a kid tomorrow no absolutely there there are challenges you know I hav't I totally get it they you rather not but what is happening then in your brain that that that makes a difference I think it increases Plus having children so what the research shows is that as women go through pregnancy and especially postpartum that's really when your brain changes the most in your entire life and the fastest and it changes in ways that they're very complicated and we're just starting to really understand but just so far what we know is that your brain shrinks when you're pregnant and perhaps shrinks even more right after the baby is born but in a way that is very similar to puberty so it's considered an optimization in that I like to talk about pregnancy as as a as a system upgrade as if the brain is a computer and you had an upgrade during puberty and now you're having another upgrade during pregnancy because once your baby is born that's it you know if you were the most important person in the room you can forget about it everything you basically your job as Mother Nature intended it is to make sure that human being survives and that means that a lot of connections in your brain are going to have to be rewired to stimulate your maternal instincts and stimulate your ability to really respond to the requests of a creature who can't speak or can't move for a long time and so what people say is that what scientists have shown is done you basically do lose connections in some parts of the brain you lose neurons but your connectivity gets stronger in certain parts of the brain that are preparing you for motherhood so your brain is going through every re wiring and the remodeling that seems to be helpful and then plasticity is stimulated your brain becomes more plastic and that seems to give an advantage for the long term as well now if you don't get pregnant your brain is fine you know actually avoiding this turmoil that needs to happen so I think this is just one factor that is so specifically unique to women obviously men can't have children so this is a mechanism it's a biological mechanism that has evolved to support motherhood and the vast majority of people see that as being adaptive even though you have the mommy brain even though you have brain fog even though like I found myself literally knocking on the door of the fridge before opening the I'm very polite you know just open the door so it's just knocking and waiting and waiting and then my husband's like H so that's the thing though I but that's what I process right is that I'm not going to have a child just so that I can create brain plasticity but I do look I do look at this stuff and I actually I don't think that that's a bad thing like if you were like yes Lisa you know they do have the edge which you said right they do have the edge so then I go to now how do I create brain plasticity myself without having a child because I just go to if they're facts there are facts and now just being aware of it allows me to think outside the box so for instance with someone like is there something that I can do like a test or anything that I could do to help me gain um brain plasticity without actually having to have a child having having kids is just one factor there there's a million factors women who develop or go through puberty earlier on in life and go through menopause later in life so those with the longest reproductive span they also have an edge right their brains also have more plasticity because you've had more of these hormones in your body for a longer period of time so that's that's another Factor yeah or whether or not you took hormones throughout your life whether or not to took like birth control of whether or not you're going to have to take estradi for symptoms of menopause those also are factors then that are just as important uh your diet is important your Fitness is important how much sleep you get per night is important your happiness is important your positive outlook on life is important you don't have to have children to protect your brain it's just one component to brain health and the reason we were looking into it is is because we're interested in horor hormones and how hormones impact the brain yeah like I said I wouldn't have a baby for that reason but it's I just I I'm I'm such a person that like I want to have the knowledge no matter what that means so when I heard your you say about um the benefits of brain plastic plasticity when you have kids the first thing that came to mind was oh am I am I now a step behind and I don't mind if I am it's kind of like I just want to know the truth so that I can then plan for like all right what else can I do um to mitigate this so right I I don't think you you should worry at all these studies are descriptive and they I think they're important because hopefully they will stimulate more research right right because there's very little research done on pregnancy and the long-term effects of pregnancy on the brain all we know is what happens basically when you're pregnant and like within two years that's interesting there very little work done to associate that with anything else later in life so I think it's just the process of a better understanding our brains and how to keep them healthy and I I think lifestyle is incredibly important we see that at the clinic all the time that when people really comply with the guidelines and recommendations that they're given their memory improves their attention improves their overall health really improves and for some women taking hormones may be helpful so there are many different strategies and I think that the approach should be individual IED if you want to learn how to build desire relieve headaches and get men to do the chores then click here right now we all want them to do the chores roughly 68% of women have faked an orgasm but apparently according to new studies 31% of