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[Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] asalamu allum Shalom I'm The Honorable Professor Dr fitria raati SSC MSC as a vice director for academic and research Affairs for univers suas mared The Honorable Mr Hing rer Glasser from the German sest asan Center for excellence of public pocy Tad University Thailand The Honorable associate professor roida Nordin from The Faculty of law University kabanga Malaysia The Honorable Mr wazer Ali from the Ministry of Education government of Pakistan The Honorable Professor Dr Sunni umul fdos s m from The Faculty of La univers suas The Honorable for moderator today's event Dr Dona budy kisma s mha and The Honorable faculty members of the p d tanas research group and all hnr 2024 committee members and all our dearest participants of hnr 2024 ladies and gentlemen good morning and welcome to the International Conference for democracy and National resilience at univers suas 2024 we give our highest praise and gratitude for God for his grace that we can get her here in a good H at kajar deanta to B room of UNS to attend this event before we proceed allow me to introduce myself my name is nimas indaya and I will be your master of ceremony for guiding today's even ladies and gentlemen the International Conference for democracy and National resilience 2024 is organized by the center of democracy and National resilience study at univers suas Marat surakarta this year marks the four edition of e DNR the theme we will discuss today is strengthening human rights protection against Global threats in the Contemporary democracy era before we dive into the main agenda allow me to present today's schedule first of all we will have the opening second we will have singing Indonesia Raya followed by the prayer the next one there will be opening remarks and then there will be document documentation and then presentation and question and answer for the session that will lead by moderator the age agenda we will have momento for our speakers and last but not least we will close the event with a special performance to begin today's agenda let us all us join singing in national anthem Indonesia Raya ladies and Gentlemen please rest and we invite to lead us for [Music] IND [Music] IND [Music] IND [Music] IND indon [Music] [Music] [Music] next agenda we will proceed with prayer Mar for the prayer may it bless today's activity so they may run smoothly ladies and Gentlemen We Now proceed to the next agenda which is the welcoming remur the first speech will be Del delivered by the conference chair of each 2024 Dr gri s [Music] [Music] the Excellence honor Professor Dr fitria ramati s m as a VI director for academic and research far of universa the Excellence honorable professor hening gler Riner as German Southwest Asian Center of Excellence for Public Policy tamas University Thailand and excellent honorable Professor asso Dr haaan faculty of law University K Malaysia honorable Professor Dr Sunni umul fos as head Center of democracy and National resilience SAS Mar University Indonesia and honorable Mr wazir Ali as Ministry of Education government of Pakistan and honorable moderator of today event Dr Duna budhi karisma s mha um and honorable faculty member of the panas research group um and all itd NR 20 and 24 committee members and also other participant of international democrac and National resilient 20 and 204 ladies and gentlemen my respect brothers and sister first let me introduce myself I am griti as a chairperson of the committee feel very honored to be in the prison of uh of you at Fourth International Conference for deocration and National resilience 20 and 24 first of all I would like to express my deepest gratitude for the present of all of you at this event your presence is a proof of tremendous support for us in organizing this International Conference ladies and gentlemen we are holding an International Conference and strengthening human rights protection against Global threats in temporary democracy area with the aim of enriching of insight in strengthening human rights protection again Global treat in temporary democracy era throughout this International Conference we hope to Pro provide an inspiring and educate educative platform for the audience together with experts we will discuss various relevant topic related to the theme uh theme of this morning International Conference but before I deliver my remarks I would like to appreciate the 20 special colleages from other countries we have attend the International Conference this morning the 20 countries are from Syria CH uh Sudan Somalia Madagascar uh Ghana Nigeria uh and Egypt Palestine Uganda Rwanda Yemen Junia uh Zimbabwe Papua Afghanistan Pakistan theor Le Tanzania and Namibia please Applause for them thank you so much we hope this event will provide indeep understanding and Spark um productive discussion let's take this opportunity to make this International Conference a valuable running opportunity let's uport um new knowledge share experience and reach our Horizon together before I end my remarks let me express my gratitude to all those who have contribut we are grateful for our disate honor today Pro Mr cling Clinger Mr W Ali Professor ASO um rohida nin Professor Dr sunos and director and um Dr Dona budy kisma thank you to the attendees who are including 20 countries that attend this International Conference those are my brief remarks be hopeful this International Conference will run smoothly and provide sustainable benefits for all of us we as the committee apologize if there are many some um shortcomings and mistake in this course of this event maybe that's all I can say uh congratulation on attending a series of international confer event this morning and thank you so much andum conference chair ladies and gentlemen we will now move on to the next agenda which is the second speech that will be delivered by the fast director for academic and research Affairs of univers saas surakarta who will also officially open the International Conference for democracy and National resilience 2024 we kindly invite Professor Dr m to the stage Professor [Music] drum The Honorable kot speaker Professor honor Dr Bango M Deputy Attorney General on advancement the Attorney General office of Republic Indonesia The Honorable speakers Professor Hing rer Glazer from Germany South East Asian Center of Excellence for Public Policy tasat University Thailand the associate professor Dr Rida nin from University Kang Malaysia Mr wasir Ali from the Ministry of Education Pakistan Professor Sunni umul fdos head of P Pam tanas lpms and The Honorable chair of this conference Dr Gayatri uh The Honorable all of the steering committee all of the distinguished guests and all of the participant PR to Allah subhana wa ta'ala for giving us a good and healthy condition then we can attend this conference the fourth International Conference for democracy and National resilience 2024 on behalf of un Blas Marat I welcome you all to this prestigious event in the ballroom UNS Tower this conference is organized byas a center in which is actively conducting some activities related to democracy and National resilience today's conference provide a themes of strengthening human right protection against Global treat in the Contemporary democracy era as we know the until recent ly human right violation still occur all over the world such as in Myanmar in Afghanistan in Palestine and Etc and Indonesia has also a dark history and human right violation such as uh the even that we ever heard about tangari sangi and then traki and the disappearing of some activists during the Reformation era 1997 until 1998 and some others cases that we ever heard through media or social media So based on the past and the recent condition on human right condition on human right violation it is essential for us to together and discussion how to do some preventive action and how to implement and consider human rights in all aspect of our life in order to do that it requir the collaboration between academies between academic between practitioner between Civil Society organization and with government to strengthen the human right protection against Global treats in this era I do believe that this conference will provide some positive impacts on the human right protection through the discussion and some specific theme that will be delivered by kinot and all of the speakers therefore by reciting bman I officially open this conference the fourth International Conference for democracy and National resilience 2024 thank you very much to BU tanas and to all of committee members for organizing this conference and for their hard work on preparing everything to conduct this conference have a good academic environment sharing knowledge each other and and having a fruitful [Music] discussion we move on to the next agenda which is documentation we kindly ask Professor Dr fitria the S MSE and also speakers 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which organized by stud democracy I am Dona and I will be the moderator uh before we begin I would like to introduce our speakers the first speakers is Mr razil Ali uh from Ministry of Education government of Pakistan Mr was Ali please please take a seat on [Music] Podium Applause for Mr [Music] Ali and the second speaker is Dr nin from faculty of law University Malaysia uh Dr Roa join from Zoom maybe uh conference pania can uh you can help us to the zoom connected in the zoom please hello Dr Roa Salam alikum hello yes can you hear us KY yes but very low okay uh thank you uh very much for your time to join this conference M uh Dr pleasure Okay the third speaker is Hing ler CER from shman son as asan Center of excellent for public policy tamas University Thailand Mr C can you hear us hello Mr CES Mr CES hello can you hear me Mr C hello Mr C can you hear me okay maybe uh he still prepar to join this conference and the last speaker is our professor professor son om fow head of P democracy K National ons please join to take this Podium welcome [Music] thank you br please give Applause to our speakers ladies and gentlemen okay uh before the presentation begins Let Me inform how the presentation will be going on uh first our speaker will be invited to present the material after all our speaker is finished there will be question and answer session and follow by uh by our conclusion uh at the first speaker is from Mr are you ready are you ready Mr yes okay uh okay the FL is yours thank you thank you so much good morning asalam alikum every everyone yeah first of all I'm very thankful to the committee for inviting me here especially to Professor Sunni ferdos for giving me this wonderful opportunity today to be in front of you and talk about the impact of social media on youth awareness and political engagement in Pakistan I am wasir Ali basically I am a uh government imply in education sector in Ministry of Pakistan and I'm doing PhD in education in saas Marat University surakarta and this is wonderful to be here today and talk about uh social media its role awareness about political engagement in Pakistan so I'm very grateful again to the the committee for this opportunity that in the fourth International Conference on democracy and National Rel resilience so this is a wonderful platform for all of the Learners across the globe to understand that how democracy is important uh for any country to move forward so I will start that why we discuss this topic why democracy is important or why the discourse of political engagement is too important for us so in the context of Pakistan if we talk about so Pakistan has around 250 million population and due to the rapid growth of internet access mobile internet Broadband so the access of internet in Pakistan is almost uh 70% population where population could have the access to Internet so if we see that in this much internet access so does this really reflect something to the Democracy or not so this is a central question today for us that does a tweet or a hashtag or a post on social media could really influence the masses the population and the political discourse which it has so this is something that I'm going to to discuss through this presentation if we could move towards the next slide so if we see this social media has rapidly growing all around the world today in Indonesia we see that everyone has access to social media they have accounts they are using different channels to communicate so this way the PO ution in Pakistan is also have the access to to social media and nowadays it is a basic need for every human being to have access to social media to engage with people to stay in touch with people not just for the communication but for the information for a student we need access uh to the several libraries websites uh to get the knowledge but for a uh citizen they want to have access towards government to the policies which are being implemented so traditional media which we were we have been uh following for last two or three decades they were not as responsible towards our needs so social media has seen a gap and social media filled that Gap and brought an engagement with the a common man and someone he has voted for his uh constituency so now there is a direct connection between two people a common man and someone who is representing him or her in the assemblies so now it brought them together he or she could ask that why you are not working for my betterment of life so it has really brought something through the Facebook Twitter Instagram these platforms have connected us with those people those who were out of the reach some time ago but now they are not whatever the policy they are trying to make in the assemblies we could do commentary on that we could say that this is not going to provide the justice so so this could this has enhanced our participation uh in the political process so political participation also increased the accountability and empowerment particularly for the marginalized groups wherever they have no access but now due to the access of internet and social media people are uh connected through that if we could move to the next slide so the social media plat platforms are making Democratic process easier and these platforms are allowing rapid uh information facilitating political awareness and the involvement of everybody so like if I quote some example from Pakistan so there are few notable uh movements which recently took place uh me too movement was there in Pakistan especially it was uh started by the women that if they were harassed in their offices in schools or so they raised their voice and so many people supported them there were so many slogans like that they did protests and then government made a law for them so it is the victory of all those who really uh took the initiative then there is a big movement uh there is a province in Pakistan Pakistan has four Province and all these provinces are based on the linguistic uh backgrounds there is Punjab s kber and bistan so in kber Province uh mostly the population is uh like Afghan people they are pashon they they speak the Pashto language so they started a movement because uh different state organizations were against those few people they were killed or they were took to the jails without presenting to any court so they started a movement and this movement uh brought a big change in Pakistan and brought so much awareness about the real issues of people so this way social media is really enhancing uh and putting people together next slide please so social media has empowered marginalized voices those voices which were not heard now are being heard because due to the access uh uh which allowed uh these groups to participate in political discussions and share their views or or the concerns so in Pakistan as I have earlier mentioned that women have raised their Vice and now they have been leveraged with so many laws that they could advocate for gender equity and the labor rights uh in the public discourse with that uh if we talk about the current scenario of Pakistan the former presid prime minister of Pakistan is in jail and Twitter is banned almost one and a half year ago Twitter was banned in Pakistan so Twitter is not working just because of the fire former prime minister of Pakistan he and his followers are mostly using the Twitter so the government itself or the regulatory Authority in Pakistan the Pakistan telec communication Authority has banned uh the Twitter and still people are managing through VPN they are using because uh Imran Khan was engaging with his followers and his supporters and his voters through uh this platform so this way we could see that how much a platform is really engaging people and providing uh the source of uh awareness among that so next slide please so social media is uh protecting democracy as well as we have discussed that uh if uh a former prime minister is in jail but he is using a platform and engaging with his followers so this way now people have started using social media and now we see so many journalists you see that someone has a mobile and they will come to you and they will ask for interview or they will ask something that what do you think about this issue this social or this political issue so now social media has uh brought more people in the field of jism and they advocate for the human rights they advocate for the social rights they Advocate if they see something is not going in the right direction so if they see that uh if this policy is not going to be helpful so they criticize their governments as well and this is all because of uh the role of social media which is increasing day by day in our lives this way if people see that there is some uh sort of misconduct or corruption so they raise their Vice and they want Justice for that and uh uh recently so many uh influential influential people were captured by the government just because of raising the vice against them because due to their influence in past it was not uh acceptable to to jail them or to take them to the court but now it is happening because people are aware now traditional media is also following the social media if you see that if there is a hashtag so tradition media will also follow that because uh it is going to bring viewership for them as well now we see there are so many YouTubers who are running their channels and from there they go to the traditional media because they are hired because of their concerns their views and uh their opinions so realtime reporting of Elections now become possible that whatever you see that if any of the candidate is doing any manipulation at the elections so this could be reported earlier it was not possible you can just make a video or take pictures and send to the uh Ministries so this has this become possible nowadays and social media is protecting democracy as well and uh it is going to expose the corruption and uh it is promoting accountability as well it depends that how good we are going to use the social media for our electoral process if we move to the next slide there is a sensorship and digital surveillance as well especially if we talk about in Pakistan nowadays uh uh Allah has been passed that uh Pakistan telecommunication Authority could really record your calls or they have the access towards your social media so if you spread something against state so you could be jailed there are laws you could be fined for some money or there is some punishment as well so censorship also came with the spread of digital media uh we cannot say that uh just it is just the fault of uh the governance itself it is the fault of people as well so we have to be aware that what are the limitations where we have to stop and if uh we have the uh organizations who are really working for the promotion of country so we must not uh engage with them in some sort of uh bad attitude so this way and some sort of uh restrictions and we see harassment cases as well on social media and uh there are few cases that uh the data has been also hacked on the different uh sources so this is something that is still happening out there uh with the with the passage of time might things get better if we move to the next slide so if you see the Civic engagement uh so uh mostly we see that people are using uh if we talk about uh in the context of Pakistan so WhatsApp and Facebook are uh uh those uh platforms which are usually mostly used so people mostly rely on WhatsApp and Facebook Twitter was preferably used for political engagement but nowadays Twitter is banned in Pakistan so people rely on Facebook or Instagram and this way there is a active online participation in political discussions and it really helps people to to engage with each other on the different if they have different difference of opinion as well so a debate a discussion brings them together to a platform this way people organize protests and uh public participation like if we talk about the recent elections in Pakistan so the former prime minister was in jail his entire party was banned and there was nothing for them to even do a public gathering but due to use of social media and uh few tweets he took almost 40% seats in Pakistan just staying in the jail if he was outside so results could be more than that so this is something happening that if you really could really utilize really use how to use the social media for public discourse so there is a lot of uh margin in that so it it has increased political Expressions Thoughts with each other but still we see that there are concerns of online harassment and it is really affective the political discourse so then there is a misinformation and privacy concerns for as well so we have to encounter with the false information because people do not go through or see the real case whatever they see just the first at the first glance they put it on social media and they do not follow that that really it is going to be false it is right or wrong so misinformation is going to impact online content as well and it but here we need strict rules and it is the responsibility of a user as well as a user we have to see that really we are going to threat someone or we are going to spread the right news or we are going to share the false information because in Pakistan recently uh due to the uh spread of so much social media now due to the limited knowledge and information people started sharing so many things which were against the state and few things were against the Islamic laws and few people are jailed and few people are killed by other people by spreading those uh news especially if we talk about the last prophet Muhammad peace be upon him so due to that this thing is also become dangerous and harmful as well so we have to consider these things that uh if there is a positive aspect so there is a negative one as well so we have to go with the positive things next slide please so social media platforms and the role of the democracy and the connection between democracy so as we have discussed that social media and democracy both are working together they could not uh leave each other these are the two basic pillars uh of a state so social media digital media or the traditional media bring eyes to the democracy and the state to know that what is really happening so this way digital platforms are bringing awareness about human rights about the basic laws and uh to to make sure that corruption must not be happening so it has has made easier the public discourse and public offices accountable to the population and it really brought the vices to the political discourse which was not possible in the past time and this way online campaigns for women minority rights and social justice are taking place uh with the passage of time so it has increased the role uh for the uh Democratic rules democracy that uh now you could not make any law which could not be public so whatever you are doing in the assembly it is heard by the people every day and it is closely uh monitored by the different uh organizations uh from the human rights and other Watch Dogs they follow you and if there is something so they go against you and now if we talk about the policy recommendations what could be really helpful in the coming future so for the effective digital regulations we need a balance of free speech there must be a full stop that after this or of or these domains you could not talk about so it is important that government and and these platforms must create a transparent policy that prevent abuse that and it really helps people to understand that uh it which support legitimate expression of the thoughts you are not going to hurt someone like in the recent times we have been uh witnessing from France and other European countries that uh there are different competitions to make sketches or cartoons of prophet peace be upon him so this is not the freedom of speech this way you are going to hurt the sentiments of millions of billions Muslims or any religious sect or religious community or any social community so this way there must be a balance between freedom of speech and then digital literacy is essential very important for every everybody like in universities there must be counseling outside the in the society there must be such programs that really make awareness uh about these things and promote uh that everyone has to be responsible while using social media not to hurt someone and with this government civil society and the tech companies also uh must uh uh promote and protect the basic human rights and help people to safeguard the freedom of speech to conclude this study we came to understand that social media is a very powerful tool if we really know how to use it so it is going to help us to express our views to promote and make accountable our political Elite political leadership and we could really engage in our political discourse by uh viewing sharing our views to to the assembly members and this way social media has enabled Democratic participation transparency and activism and it raised our voices it took us to the high notes and if we really want to enjoy the Democracy so we have to follow and we have to obey some rules as well so this is the most important thing that if social media has given us freedom of speech so it has brought some responsibilities some duties and some restrictions as well if we follow those so I think that we could flourish more we could have more access to the laws and we could have more freedom of expression in the coming days is so this is all about my presentation thank you thank you so much okay Applause [Applause] for ali uh we have a new insight that uh have a positive impact in Pakistan especially to increase the Democratic uh system uh and social media play a FAL role in protecting democratic practice to expose corruption accountability and transparency in electoral process thank you Mr Ali for your uh idea for your uh knowledge to us uh and the second speaker is the second speaker is Dr Dr Roa yes uh Dr Roa can you hear us in Zoom conference yeah can okay uh are you ready Dr Raa like I don't know is there Echo yes paron me please echo in my voice yes okay we can hear you in here okay yes uh time is yours Dr Raa um can I have my slide please yes for share screen your material from committee or yourself Dr I already passed my slide to the committee oh yes okay uh please committer can you help Dr to sh on the material presentation for okay it's ready okay all right the is yours okay thank you Mr moderator The Honorable guests uh esteem speakers ladies and gentlemen um the given topic is actually quite challenging uh for a legal Scholars like me but anyway I will try to meet the organizers expectation through this sixth part of presentation of mine so I will start by looking at the otomy or the contrast between various terminologies and then I look at some of the important principle of the Asian human rights body I Char before giving my concluding remark next slide please slide number two three next slide okay ladies and gentlemen um St hood is not even mentioned in the asan chapter uh this is because uh it is presented through concept that have same meaning as statehood uh and this concept are clearly listed on principle under meing the establishment of asan if you look at article two of the asan chter uh it provides that asan um and its member State shall act in accordance with um six M principle and if you look one by one yeah they tend out to concept that actually preserve State Hood okay among others the first is respect for Independence sovereignity equality territorial integrity and national identity next non interference in Internal Affairs or member State then if you move on the next one is respect for the right of uh the members to lead its National assistance and then fast forward respect for different cult as languages and religion of the people while emphasizing their common values in the spirit of unity in diversity so what I make from these six M principle uh that Asian chapter creates tension between the need to integrate and the member State reluctance to yield to national sovereignity uh in reality members of practicing non-interference policy uh in which although they belong to I in most time they are handling their internal uh matters yeah without interference from other members and becoming lenient towards other state in terms of boundaries resources and human rights uh next slide please okay the Assan intergovernmental Commission on human rights uh also uh known as iar established in 2009 as a consultative Association for asan so the focus is more on promotion of Human Rights rather than uh taking on protective responsibility and if you've been following yeah the literatures on uh asan and I the T term of reference were barded with serious International criticism one of it is the uh policy of non-interference and second one will be the fact that member although they are required to submit yearly report but the government representative are denied the latitude for investigation on allegation of human rights violation and this inability of iar um including to enforce effective sanction for violation of Human Rights represent or demonstrate abling block to the attainment of basic human rights for the people of Asia Next slide please okay this is important slide um I try to look deeper into this non interference policy it's a foreign policy that dis weep any form of interference in international Internal Affairs of another state yeah and in addition to asan chapter this policy also mentioned in you know various other official document and also uh uh statement all right and this non interference policy actually attributed to history um to the fact that all five founding members experience the effect of colonization hence asan adopt this non-interference policy to arrive at some level of security and consistency and this is based on the principle of state sovereignity and the right to selfdetermination but then I view that the subance State ought to be able to Grant the assurance that the security and rights of its people would be safeg guarded and failure to do that will render the state as a failed State without or with a doubtful sovereignity um next slide moving on to the establishment of asan Human Rights body and its principle ladies and gentlemen the Declaration of the assian Concord in the Treaty of cooporation led to Asians focus on the right of every state to lead its National existence as it underlying concept rather than individual right uh next slide please Asian leaders um prioritize the principle of sovereignity and non interference in addressing numerous human rights situation and this is to prevent the organization from sanctioning policy and issuing statements that may be construed as uh medal some by other Asian members and in 1993 yeah an immediate attempt was made to establish a Regional Human Rights mechan ISM uh 1998 Asian form an informal non-governmental working group to implement the human rights yeah and then you can read in the slide as to the chronology on the establishment of um Asian human rights body but this is all um related to article 14 of the Asian chapter which was imposing the necessary or necessity for Asian to develop a human right body which eventually has been successful in 2009 yeah uh via informal approach uh to provide consultation Cooperative activities networking and policy advocacy next slide according to the um article 14 of the Asian chapter RR um has to work based on the term of reference as adopted by the Asian foreign minister meeting in July 29 I'm going to go uh quite fast for this few slide yeah can you move on to the next slide all right next slide okay the when we talk about the term of reference or purposes of iar look at point one of the term of reference tulate the purpose of iar the purpose of the establishment there four listed in the slide one is promoting and protecting the human rights and fundamental freedom and then upholding the right to live in peace and then promoting Regional stability and Harmony friend ship and cooperation and then to accommodate National and Regional particularities and mutual respect for differences but when there is a uh concern you know there must be uh an attempt to try to balance between rights and responsibility that is the main concern okay uh the next slide um this is the table that I prepared to provide the status of rectification of nine for human right treaties by Asian members so if uh you look at this uh table Yeah so Indonesia Philippine Thailand and Cambodia are doing quite well um in which um most of uh these four countries re ify minimum of eight human right treaties and Malaysia and brunai has the Le treaties rectified and if you go by the uh treaty uh convention on the rights of child and the right of people with disability receive full rectification by Asian members whereas for the migrant workers only receive two rectification from Indonesia and Philippines um mainly because you know the fact that they are the a source country for migrant workers that uh Justified and motivate the rectification of the migrant workers uh treaty by these two countries and finally the um convention on prevention or protection from enforced disappearance only receive two uh rectification one is from Thailand which is recently rectified on 14 May 2024 and by Cambodia so this is the status of rectification of the core human right treaties by Asian members so moving on to the principle of iel next slide next line okay according to DD the work of iar should be guided by several fundamental principle established in article two of asan Charter and I'm not going to repeat this because you know I have mentioned this um in my earlier slide and moving on to the next slide aan Al I also must respect internet National human rights principles um among others principle of universality indivisibility interdependence and Inter relation um and also three other guiding principle that has to be followed by I and these are very important and crucial to the scope of my presentation today one is the recognition that the primary responsibility for promotion and protection of Rights rests with each member the 10 member State second adoption of a constructive and non-adversarial approach and work together to improve the promotion and protection of Human Rights and finally the adoption of an evolution evolutionary approach that contribute to the development of of human right norm and standard okay the Mandate and function of iar there are 40 points to the Mandate and function of I child six are promotional mandate which I have done your favor so they are listed in the slide and the next slide list down other mandate which um fun functional in nature um and in relation to their specific T and obligation so ladies and gentlemen uh you can go through uh the list later yeah from my slide and the next slide is where the 14 point mandate has been grouped into six the next slide so from 14 mandate so they can be group into six one is on the rule for standard setting and then second the cooperation and political support the third one is the protection mandate which include collection of information from Member state which is very important mandate and providing advisory services and Technical assistant on human rights and fourth human rights strategy and three on development capacity and number six is also an important mandate which is you know which will be looked at uh uh when when you know I move to the last part of my presentation on evolution evolutionary approach of Asian which is dialogue including the opening of dialogue and consultation not only within the asan members but between asan institution and other agencies uh at the level of regional and also International okay the next slide is on the composition of the representative of is um detail uh point on this can be seen this SL and I'm not going to uh take time to go through them you can go through in your um three time and then we move on to the other slide on the composition of chair of AAR yeah again you can look at some detail uh in the slide about the uh chairmanship of arar moving on to the next slide on AR child responsibility or relationship with other asan body um as an advisory body and an integral part of Asian overall organizational structure AA maintain relationship with other Asian body so according to the t two other bodies are required to work closely with AAR namely the Secretary General and the assian Secretariat and the need of their collaboration is uh stated in this slide I just want to add about this slide yeah uh the fact that iar will submit an annual report and other appropriate report to the Assan foreign ministers meeting for review and asan foreign ministers uh can also instruct I to leave if necessary so one last slide on uh this point yeah on on arel establishment and principle is regarding Amendment and review this is to prove or to show that Reformation approach may not be suitable for iar evolutionary approach is you know more practical yeah and reasonable so basically in ensuring attainment of um uh attainment of uh uh uh uh safu on human rights protection so we go for the law uh low hanging fruits yeah which is evolutionary approach rather than uh uh uh revolutionary approach when I see revolutionary approach I'm actually referring to the uh uh Amendment uh of the uh of the legal framework within asan and uh also I yeah for example uh to uh um to give uh the arar power for investigation so the term of reference has to be amended although that d t provide for for such Avenue next slide please um the member State can submit a formal request to amend the and the amendment will be considered by Asher a permanent representative Committee in consultation with iar and submitted for Asian Foreign ministers meeting for approval but this is what I describe of um you know establishing uh normative legal framework which is um is um uh quite demanding in terms of uh time and probably will not get consensus by the members of asan okay now moving on to the last part of my presentation which I combine few parts yeah so uh regarding Assan next slide constructive and non confront functional approach and cooperation so this principle can also be seen in you know for example asan consensus on protection and promotion of Rights of Migrant workers you know where the members encouraged to conduct constructive dialogue consultation cooperation exchange of information whatnot and uh this approach is also so call Asian wave yeah and under this asan wave member of Asian do not confront each other at the UN assembly when deliberating on human rights even you know for UPR you know you you hardly see that yeah uh practices and historically asan focus more on M and coroporation to Foster economy interaction so isand has traditionally adopted a constructive and non conal approach in its puru for promoting and protection of human rights in the region and this is called as asan way so basically this way emphasize the principle of non interference consensus building and acquired diplomacy right and according to Scholars go Asian way means more than just non-interference but it is a vial strategy in a global conflict resolution yeah so it is actually a working guideline set out producers uh procedures by which conflict could be managed by the region uh next slide uh I share the view of some of the scholars regarding asan way or the constructive and non-conventional approach and cooperation uh if you look at the first one uh bullet number two it was the view of uh aaya yeah uh in which according to him why while principle of uh Interstate relation like non-intervention nonuse of force uh can be regarded as not unique to asan but what is unique to asan is social cultural practices of informality and consensus building non advisor and non hegan yeah this is typical to asan all right and another Scholars which is Hong at L yeah uh in as a Conflict Management framework so asan way uh set a processes yeah that emphasize self resistant and accommodation of Divergent interest in managing differences this is interesting accepting the cultural practices of Musha and mua yeah agreeing to disagree while shelving the need to settle differences and finally jagen huckle yeah I just share with you as a diplomatic and security culture describe Asian way as integral part of normative framework but has defined Regional governance in terms of a set of processes and in institution and normally they are in the form of uh formal and informal uh approaches okay let's move on to the next slide I think you can read uh this slide on your own as well where I put a question how can this concept increase the protection uh and promotion of human rights with naan so let's take Myanmar and rohinga as uh our case uh analysis so what can be done under the principle of constructive non-confessional approach and cooperation yeah so now let's move on [Music] to the next slide ladies and Gentlemen The evolutionary approach for asan and acher next Slide the of reference of iar 2.5 specify on adoption of an evolutionary approach that would contribute to the development of Human Rights norm and standard in asan so what I want to emphasize is that Regional Human Rights System including I are not fixed product yeah they are established at a particular point in history yes true yeah but they evolve yeah they are rather Works in progress and evolve over time The evolu evolutionary approach is also Incorporated in the architecture of asan Human Rights system so and not only that so this Evol evolutionary approach is a tool for AAR in full full its mandate and F function of promoting and protecting human rights in the Asian region so which is similar to uh decision making process in Asian if you look at article 20 bracket one of asan chap so it has to be made or any issues can only be decided upon through consultation and consensus so the same principle also apply for iar okay next what is the next slide please so what do we have currently within achar and asan so the existing uh approach available within our shall right now shall be discussed in this particular slide but before that there are three factors for an effective Asian human rights mechanism which can go along with the non interference policy one is the commitment of members to talk about human rights issue then agreement to talk about it and then available platform or agenda in which they can talk about it so my observation is that currently Assan members evolve they become more open to talk about human rights not only within their own state but also within other state or within the region in the AAR meeting and in institutionalized agenda of human rights in archar is the recent development of uh asan so in which each representative of the state can talk about human rights in a meeting so uh uh focus on this each representative of members yeah so no NOS no uh uh other parties non-state actors yeah in this discussion so they also introduced asan human rights dialogue which claim to be similar to the U Universal periodic review in which uh representative can talk about human rights situation and then assessment of the situation on their term using their definition and then uh uh provide view on how to address violation without being accused as being interfering yeah and this two few platform is to create a portunity to exchange views uh share best practices improve capacity building for official especially and changing attitude and perspective but the challenges or limitation remain in which each state has different idea on human rights and most of the time human rights seen as security issues rather than human rights per se so what can be done I mean what can can be involved in in this sense so let's look into the last uh uh few slide let's move on evolutionary approach so there's uh three parts of this uh so-call evolutionary approach yeah uh probably asan iar has been doing this but it has to be uh uh done as a matter of Norm yeah and on a regular basis for example you know uh I representative to travel to uh each asan member State no longer remain at the headquarters of iar and upon the visit CSO and H nhri can take this opportunity to meet with the uh I representative and bring their concern to the knowledge or attention of uh achar rep yeah because this is already within the Mandate of ashar yeah similarly if we look to the second one the setting up of an expert group or subbody which is similar to those of um you know Human Rights Commission although Human Rights Commission was seen as a political body it established expert group or bodies which later on develop into a special procedure so this is important and should be considered seriously by AAR and asan so it will ensure the quality and accurateness of the factual information and to develop common approaches and position on human right matters of interest in asan and the next one is also about Gathering of information a country visit and provide ing adversary assistant technical assistant and all these are within the six group Mandate of I child that I have listed down in the earlier slide so next slide I just want to emphasize that it's no longer dialogue between uh I representative and you know uh uh state representative so it should be an inclusive process which is really you know close to the universal periodic review so there must be participation of the state representative and AER representative in the dialogue on equal footing yeah and then they should also include non-state organization including businesses yeah should also participate and I think NGO is important uh actor in this dialogue yeah so they can bring topic or agenda or pre-proposal they can also provide data uh to you know to to validate the data provided by the state and they can also uh raise awareness and then I also think that other nonstate actors which include expert academ Mia T Tang yeah should also participate in this dialogue and finally in selected cases local or Regional government should also participate to complete the whole picture of incl inclusive processes so this is what I consider as evolutionary uh an inclusive approach which is an extension of what CHR already have which is in the form of Asian human right dialogue to bring greater objectivity to analyze on human rights situation in every Asian member State no state will be Exempted yeah all state will be Roa your time is 5 minut again please uh maybe you can go to your conclusion yes okay 2 minutes yes okay then my conclusion is that respect for human rights is already at the center of asan activities yeah Asian can only fulfill its Mission by giving a central place to Human Rights uh this should include a strengthening uh domestic and Regional legal framework to respect human rights so what I'm sh I have shed in this presentation is one is the ideal one in which asan can modify the term of reference to accommodate the setting up of Human Rights judicial Authority with power to issue binding judgment but in the meantime asan to struck a balance we're talking about balancing actually here between the non-interference policy and state responsibility and accountability in the work and non interference policy can remain but it should not dictate us on how to move forward on human rights by then I thank everyone for uh your attention thank you Mr moderator thank you Applause for Dr OA ladies and gentlemen yes uh I think it's uh asan have a important role to uh promote and to struggle know enforcement of human R in asan Zona but it's uh very many challenge to uh solve the problem of human fation right in asan okay and uh third session is from the third speaker is Mr Cel hello Mr C are you ready Mr Cel from tamat University yeah I'm I'm ready hello can you hear me yes can you hear me too okay uh please commit to have share screen for no material okay Mr time is yours thank you very much umam alikum first of all I would like to thank the center for democracy and National resilience studies and especially Professor Sun F uh I'm very happy to be here and like drer I also hear my voice as an echo so that is a little bit irritating but I will do my best to not to be too irritated uh I would like to talk about basically three things first of all the nature and manifestation of Human Rights so what are human rights because uh many people are not that clear about what they really are then I want to talk about the impact and resilience of Human Rights and lastly the change change and challenges human rights are facing right now talking about human rights first of all needs a definition and I would like to Define human rights as a supreme universalistic morality and legal shape so what does it mean first of all human rights obviously are different from other parts elements of law we are talking about a law that is morally charged so we have a kind of moral commitment when we talk about human rights this moral commitment is specific it is universalistic meaning that we have the idea that human rights are those kind of moral positions we want to extend to every human being as a human being and we have that in eal shape and that is a very difference uh we have to see when we talk about humanity and humanism and human rights the idea that we have a kind of universalistic morality or a kind of of humanism is very old and is rooted in basically the important world religions in Islam Christianity and so on but the idea to put that in a legal shape is relatively new and not only that we don't only put that universalistic morality into a legal shape we are also claiming that this is part of the Constitution and thus part of the supreme law of the land so it's a higher level of law having said that um when we look at human rights as universalistic moral legal position we have to acknowledge that they are in essence fluid and contextual and that means they are changing in time they are depending on where we claim them and that means also they're relative and they are contested and we have multiple interpretation of what is the content of Rights the issue with rights from the state perspective is very much this inherent power of a supreme universalistic morality and here I would like to make a differentiation when we talk about human rights we don't talk about Universal moral or legal positions that means they are applying everywhere in the same way they are not as I say they are fluid and contextual but we make the point that they are universalistic that means they apply to everyone and that implies that they are somehow transcending the authority of the state so States never like to be curtailed in their power and that is why human rights always are in a certain tension to the state while at the same time participating in the state um idea about constitutional identity national identity if the Constitution adopts them we also have to that when we talk about human rights we are talking about a very broad spectrum we have really very different approaches towards human rights like uh the generation of Rights different kinds of Rights we see but also about um how much we demand so in some contexts we demand an ethical minimum when we talk about human rights we talk about not to be tortured not to be killed not to be kidnapped all these things this is a minimum and at the same time we have sometimes positions that are kind of very specific interpretation of a maximum of Rights there I mean for example the recognition rights which are now very much in the center of Western right foress so where we claim that certain identities have to be recognized by others this is an evolution of the idea of Rights this is new and this is contested also in the west um when we now look again at uh the function of human rights and their nature they are part of the Constitution and that yet they Transcendent the Constitution because they are participating in a morality that is not defined by the state but by the society Maybe by religion so traditionally human rights are positions between the state and private actors and here we have to acknowledge a very important change these days I would say much more important question uh is maybe not only the relation between State and individual actor but also between individuals and other private actors in particular large corporations and the state and large corporations and we can see that very much when we look at phenomena like Shadow Banning and and others where we have corporate actors that are doing things that affect what we would claim our basic rights but we could not enforce it in the traditional view of Human Rights because here we don't have the state acting against these positions are private actors and there for sure we have a lot to discuss and probably it will be change ahead let me now come to the question of the impact and resilience of Rights so what makes human rights or basic rights powerful what gives them impact what makes them resilient against the change I will come to later first of all I think it is very important to appreciate that rights are as strong as their legal infrastructures so rights as a part of the law are for sure defined in their power and their impact by the surrounding legal infrastructure what do I mean with that so legal infrastructure for me is the hardware and the software of the legal system and that means when I talk about the hardware how many courts do we have how independent are the courts how trained are the judges how many books we have how many journals we have in the country that is the hard of the legal infrastructure that makes really a difference if you have only very few people dealing with human rights if you have maybe four or five people who are really aware of the international discourses that is something different if compared to have 500,000 or 2,000 people dealing with this issue so it is very much the size of the legal system that decides about the impact the quality the resilience of any part of law in a particular human rights but we also have the software from the legal system and we talk about infrastructure and there I would like to point to the importance of dogmatics of the legal science and the legal discour so the more in a legal system the different parts of professions are in an open Frank discourse where courts lawyers professors NOS media and the public at large where they are part of a discourse of community where they debate of Rights issues the situation of Rights is for sure stronger and better than in a country where we have a kind of fragmentation between these disos of groups the most important point however when I talk about the impact and resilience of basic rights is what is their constitutional appreciation and I think this is a very often overlooked point which I would like to point out in a little more detail so we have many constitutions um that are featuring basic rights human rights and yet they are very very different when it comes to the degree of appreciation of Rights and that is really for me the most important point when we talk about the resilience and impact of Rights in their constitution of the frme domestically to understand that I would like to talk a little bit about the Constitution and the position human rights have in the Constitution so what are constitutions for me Constitutions are are when they're meaningful the legal manifestation of the social contract is a social contract the social contract is basically our fiction our idea our concept about how do we want to live in a society why is this fiction it is a fiction because we are not asked no one in this room is asked if you subscribe to the social contract of the Republic of Indonesia I was not asked about my opinion about the social contract of my country so it is a fiction we somehow assume that a certain idea about how should we rule the political Community is supported by enough power then it is stronger than any other concept we have in the country that that is simply contract we don't need to agree every one of us many of us might not even be fully aware what is the content of the social contract many of us might be simply happy with the order that is we say better what we have than everything else some of us might be very clear about it and support the social contract and some of us might be even against it but as long as there enough power backing this kind of core idea about how the society shall be governed and structured as long we have a social contract yet the social contract is very vake can be very disputed and therefore we need the kind of legal manifestation and that is for me the Constitution but not the Constitution at large not everything that is in the constitution is so important that we would attribute it as a part of the social contract or reflection of the conflict that brings me to the link between the social contract and the Constitution which is a basic structure so the basic structure of a constitution is the core part of that Constitution that forms its identity constitutional identity is equated here with a basic structure and the basic structure are the core principles is the normative heart the normative Horizon of a constitutional community in Indonesia jila in my country it's called the free Democratic basic order and you have all possibilities and socialist countries the basic structure somehow defined by Democratic centralism in an Islamic State it is defined by the supreme authority of Allah so we have very different contents here but what we have to appreciate is the fact that any Constitution that is supposed to be meaningful has something like this basic structure this core set of principles and ideas governing the rest of the Constitution and structuring that Constitution and then we have the question are human rights part of that or not if human rights are part of the basic structure then they will have a greater impact and a stronger resilience than Constitution where they are but not as part of the basic structure I will give you an example I'm living in Thailand for a long time and I witnessed the last K Thailand and for five years certain rights important rights political rights were largely suspended but if you would go on the street and talk to people if they like the situation politically or not it was not changing that much the feeling of the people about the reality on the ground because human rights are important part of the Constitution but not necessarily I would argue of the basic structure so to suspend them for a certain time was possible without creating outrage or the feeling of people the end of our constitutional identity has come in Western countries however human rights are not only part of the Constitution they Define the Constitutional identity so in all European Union constitutions the Constitutions of All European Union states the basic structure is different from state to state some are Central States some are federal states some feature religion some not some are even uh explicitly secular but what all share is human rights the rule of law and democracy are mutually reinforcing parts of the Constitutional basic structure of the core that can't be changed so when we want to know what is the basic structure of the country's Constitution we have to look for the supreme power how is it regulated so who exercises the supreme power who is entitled to um protect the Constitution and what against what is a constitution protected we all have in at least European constitutions articles that are representing what we call militant constitutionalism or militant democracy that means we are def defending the Constitution we are protecting the Constitution against its enemies and we do that not against any threats against the Constitution but against the basic structure so if someone wants to undermine the basic structure we will go after that one we will ban a political party you will maybe suspend political rights and so on so even this is the basic structure containing human rights that is the first question and secondly how clear and how consequential this is regulated so some are more W and some are very precise when it comes to the basic structure and it doesn't mean that one is good and the other one is bad it depends on the situation of the country for example inia I would claim that the basic structure is quite wake when we talk about Contra cila we can we had since the foundation of the Indonesian Republic debates about what is the content of each CA and the same is true for many countries so many countries are with wake and are not too precise what is the exact content of the basic structure in some other countries we really break it down so we will clearly work it out what is the content of each principle forming the basic structure and that has a strong impact on the resilience of the basic structure and therefore also human rights let me now come to the last point Point um the changes and the challenges affecting human rights in a given country here I would say we have to appreciate the fact that in our days that is why this conference makes really sense in an international perspective we Face basically the same challenges globally and when you look at the history of civilizations there are always three dimensions in which we have change that can become critical and these are the environment technology and the social political structure so always when we have profound change or profound crisis and one of these Dimensions we have a strong transform transformation of the society or even the crisis or the end of the society and when we look at these three domains environment technology and the social political structure we see indeed a lot of challenges for the Constitutional basic structure for our political identity and therefore also for human rights emerging let me very briefly point out some of them because um I have I think only three minutes left so first of all when we look at the environment we see that we are facing a time where we have more and more mass migration we will see Mass migration to extent that we didn't know before and that will put us under the question how true are we towards our own constitutional Identity or moral values that are forming that identity and we can also say all human right understanding and concept we have that question very much in Europe so the question here is what do you do if millions of people come to your country do you want to invite them to your country and help them which is for many people the consequence of our uh human rights approach or do we ref use it in the name of National Security and to preserve the living standard we have um thereby at least putting our core values or constitutional identity uh under so this is a huge problem especially for European societies then we have technology and we talk about disruptive technology and there we see really in the world history a unique moment where we have accelerating technological transformation that is changing basically the condition of Life of human beings so we are more and more transferring our life into the digital sphere we are under um surveillance potentials that we unimaginable some years ago and um we are also changing thereby Our World Views our idea about what constitutes a human being and so on and all that affects our understanding of Human Rights it affects our if you want our human rights muscle as an individual so if I know that I am constantly surveyed or I can be constantly surveyed and the results of the surveillance the data obtained about me can be used to calculate who I am what I will do with artificial intelligence um all these capacities we have there then I will really think about what I express maybe even what I think when I use the digital sphere and that has definitely a strong effect on the reality of Human Rights lastly talking about the uh social political structure I think in all societies globally we see polarization contestation and the disconnect between the people and the governments and this is also very important for the reality of human rights as human rights are supposed to be the integrating Supreme Morality In a legal shape in a country and if we are living in a very polarized country in a country where the core values are contested human rights easily become an instrument become a political tool and lose their ability to convince the people and their ability to create feeling of identity of political identity in the populace and this is also affecting their link with democracy and the rule of law as soon as we are using human rights as a tool in a polarized and disconnected Society we are risking to undermine the very value the meaning of Human Rights and their link with democracy and the rule of law so we will have a fragmentation of these different elements of our basic structure and that is what we can see in many countries where we use human rights uh to the detriment of the democratic discourse and to the detriment of the rule of law the last point I would like to make is that we also have to be aware of the change of the global balance of power not to a clear new state but we don't know where it will go but we definitely have a great volatility the global balance of power or the global correlation of force so we are not that clear about who will be on which position in the future when we talk about global power the United States and Europe China and Russia then we have a lot of other very important emerging middle Powers they have the bricks and so on this has a lot to do with the future of Rights because rights can be interpreted in the very Western sense we have that on the global stage and in many important Arenas but we also have other versions of Human Rights and the question will be do we have really equally recognized conceptions of Human Rights or do we still have some um human rights being more important than others and so on and that has to do a lot with the global balance of power that is changing and I think we don't know really where it goes so this is the last challenge I would like to point out and I think I reached already my time and would like to thank you again very much for your for listening and I'm looking forward to discuss thank you very much thank you Mr uh I think the important point is about the social contact that you say that uh social contact is the important uh essential to uh how human re will be can inform uh enforcement in the state here okay and you said that uh social contact is in the most basic refel state that human pay give up a certain right they have in a state of nature in order to obtain the security and right uh profit to uh protection in the state okay and the second speaker is uh Prof Sunni how are you Prof fine okay okay are you ready to presentation your material okay H thank you Professor Dona okay I yes okay than okay uh IND okay uh home I respect Professor Hing Glazer for Germany but uh how are you I want you uh healthy today and I see you um fresh from uh my laptop I see you uh whom I respect to Professor Nora whom I respect you professor s wasir and thank you um three speaker join in this conference today alhamdulillah thank you for participant uh 21 count in here okay I cannot uh count person to person but thank you you join with us relationship strong strong State pil and reflecting human right in the Indonesian democracy right democracy Indonesia okay uh ladies and gentlemen uh panasil interact with the concept of human right within the countries Democratic uh governance system here is a brief exploration of this topic the firstly panasil is Indonesia foundational IDE theology panasil composed of five principle was introduced by sukarno in 1945 as the philosophical basis of the Indonesian State [Music] say Bel in one good and civilized humanity and number three Indonesian Unity Indonesia number four democracy Guided by Inner wisdom and unity Justice for All Indonesians is seen as guiding philosophy meant to balance religious culture and social diversity in Indonesia providing a framework from for Unity how to concept of the strong State historically Indonesia has swung between different conception of the state power under sukarno old order and suaro New Order the strong R to centralize from of auor with limited political freedom in this period the state of Justified limiting Democratic participation and desen under the guise of National stability development and unity suar New Order resim in particular embis a centralized authoritarian government where panila was often you was used to uh surprise opposition climbing it as a tool of national unity and stability ladies and gentlemen how to the human right and the Indonesian democracy the fall of suaro known as a reform period make a significant shft toward de democratization the era saw a greater significant shft uh the era saw a greater emphasis on human right with Indonesia ratifying K international human right convention and adopting a more democratic political system however despite this reform the legal the legacy of the strong States still influence political tension persit between upholding panasil principle of unity and Harmony and fully implementation a liberal Democratic approach to human right especially when it's come to issue like a freedom of religion while P recognize belief in one God religious minorities sometime face discrimination issue number two freedom of speech and press criticism of the government can still be me the repressive measur with law like the electronic information and transaction La used to silent design lgbtq and right this right are often frame as incompatible with panasil moral and social justice principle leading to significant social and legal challenge okay next slide uh uh okay we um explain about how to balancing panasil and human right in contemporary uh Indonesia today Indonesia democracy GP with balancing the strong State model with the growing demand for civil liberties panasil is often invoke in debate about the limit of this Freedom some argue that the state should continue to take an assertive role in regulating Society to maintain National unity and social justice while other push for more of the pluralistic interpretation that better align with global human rights stand philosoph implementing uh implementation panasil is a unifying philosophy designed to maintain Indonesia religious culture and social diversity faces several challenges below are the key challenges firstly Indonesia have religious diversity and religious intolerance T while the first principle of Pila empis believe in a one almighty God its implementation doesn't always ensure protection for all religious group Indonesia officially recognize six religions Islam Protestant Catholic Hindu Buddhist and Confucianism but minority group such as indigenous belief system and the ahmadiya community often face discrimination and intolerance religious intolerance and the form of attack on places of worship of retri on religious practice reveal tension in IM in implementing Pila principle of diversity and Harmony number two Rising ethic sentiment and sear and sectarianism Indonesia is home to over 1,000 300 ethnic group with diverse language culture and traditional Indonesia despite panasil commitment to Indonesian Unity ethnic conflict in region such as Papua maluku and SU y indicate that ethnic and sectarian division remain problematic ethnic based conflict and culture difference test the nation ability to maintain Unity under panasil economic disparities and political marginal marginalization of certain ethnic group further exate tension number three number three it's radicalism and extr the rise of R radicalism and extremist which promote ideologies that oppose panasil poses a significant treat to National stability and unity some radical group seek to replace panasil with religious law such as comprehensive implementation of Shar with and and angers the nation religious and cultural diversity extremist lead to polarization within Society not only damaging interfa Harmony but also inciting violence against minority group and deepening social segregation number four social and economic inequality social and economic inequality soci and economic disparities between wealthy and a poor region as well as between urban center and remote area are still pronounces the principle of social justice in panasil demand equal distribution of wealth but implementation struggle to address poverty in underdeveloped areas social and economic and AD Justice fuel this this eviction and reg tension undermining social harmony and weakening National unity and number four Jen for panasil about corruption and weak law enforcement you know about uh corruption corruption is extraordinary crime a lot of deinition about corruption but uh corruption the meaning uh we make money state for family for constituent for anything but in Indonesia a lot of corruption four people potenti to corruption widespread corruption at a various level of a government we can public trust and the state and the rule of law the principle of adjust and civilize humanity and social justice in panasil are difficult to realize when state of ISS in J in a corrupt practice corruption obstruct the ver distribution of resource and lead to inequality in a public survice creating social discontent and complicating effort to strengthen National un Unity number six the musu of panasil for political interest is sometime ISU by political group on a government to justify political or action that are inconsistent with human right or Democratic value for example accusation of being anti panasil are occasionally use the silent political opponent or group with diving views the political misses of Pila diminishes at The credibility as tool for National Unity instead causing polarization within Society number seven tantang lack of deep understanding of for younger generation understanding of panasil is often superv visal limited to Road memorization with a deeper appreciation of the values it represent education tend to focus more on memorization than contextual application causing panasil to lose relevant in contemporary Society the lack of internal internalization of Pila failure in everyday life lead to the degradation of these values making it in increasingly difficult to achieve its goal as aning philosophy and the last globalization and foreign influence and influence in the era of globalization the influence of Vin's ideologies and culture such as extreme capitalism liberalism or consum ISM can conflict with panasil value with empasis mutual cooperation social justice and balance between rights and duties the penetration of ideology and cultur can erode National identity and reduce appreciation for panasil which in the long term my weaken National Unity conclusion while panasil was designed as a unifying philosophy that can accommodate Indonesia religious culture and social diversity its implementation phases various challenges issue such as religious intolerance ethnic conflict radicalism social inquality corruption and foreign influences continue to test the strength of panasil as a foundation for nationality at National Unity to address this challenge a strong commitment is is need from the government society and all element of the nation to continually uphold and strengthen panasil implementation and daily life yeah democracy contempor waum Salam thank you for sun for your uh for your knowledge uh to us about the panasia and human rights in Indonesia uh maybe I want to tell us that uh panasil is our Indonesia ideology and it's a unique philosophy to implementation in our education Society okay for the next s is uh s discussion and I uh I want to our participant to maybe you have uh some question uh and please uh say your name and your question to for speakers and we have a two session in our discussion uh I have five question on the particip participant please maybe for international student all the student in this conference yes uh maybe if you can uh cannot speak English you speak Indonesian language okay the first is uh form international student yes asalamu Alum good afternoon everyone uh first I want to introduce myself I am Baha from Bangladesh yes Maha Baha Baha from Bangladesh Bangladesh okay uh thank you so much for your insightful discussion uh professor rohida and cler Henning reer I would like to ask some questions rohinga population the most oppressed people of the last century and this Century which is still ongoing many of my friends in Indonesia have the misconception that the rohinga population is from [Music] Bangladesh but today I want to strongly State they are the people of Myanmar I always like to call them rohinga population not rohinga Muslims as because they are not only Muslims but also Hindu and Buddhist included today there are about 2 million rohinga refugees in Bangladesh which is a important issue in social and political field of Bangladesh so my first question is it a lack of international political will to take no proper International action against this human rights violation secondly how is it possible to take this h refugees back to their own land when there is a civil war going throughout manmar thank you so much okay thank you B from Bangladesh uh for Dr okay the next question yes please yeah all right thank you for the time so my name is Lima I'm from social and polit politics uh and from University of SP Mar I specifically ask this question to Sir wazir Ali as the Ministry of Education government of Pakistan since I'm also a freshman that would be amazing to hear your answers from your perspective as someone that in the government and managing the education as you have mentioned this social media currently helping a lot of people around of the world especially Pakistan to Aspire their opinion or even engaging in social movement to make impact on society but with current problems still as a woman there are still some problem about gender inequality that sometime lead to human right violation for example in Pakistan there is a honor killing or in another aspect even like uh even like right now wom in Pakistan in Pakistani politics or par par parment also facing some problems due to cultural relation like it's a taboo or something like that as a Ministry of Education do you have any suggestion for us especially the Y to face this problem with use of social media especially for feminism because in some country it's still a Tabo it's still kind of wrong to say or speak up about feminism do you also have any recommendation for us hope to use social media with powerful impact but at the same time obeying the law thank you [Applause] okay thank you imay from IMA yeah yes thank you man and the third question may be from yes um yes please Wanda from uh thank you very much for the fruitful Pro presentation first of all I have to introduce myself I'm janena from Randa you can also call me John uh I'm a student in specific communication science my question are to and addressed to the first presenter Mr was Ali the first one is related to the freedom of expression we know in Africa as I told you most of African professional journalist face many and serious problem when they involve in history of uh politician to to to publish day dark activity or to go in deep on what is going on in the government especially on the high position some of them even disappear I would like to share about how in Pakistan uh you try to to protect the human right of professional journalist who are engaged to be involved in political and fight for providing the public the news which are true the second one is related to the issue of cyber security uh I would like to know which are the strategy used by Pakistan government to overcome or uh to predict from the cyber security like human trafficking or like uh kidnapping people just using the social medias thank you very much thank you Justin from Randa okay maybe we uh stop for three question uh first from Baja from Bangladesh uh is specialist to Dr the case foringa in myar how the international straty to Sol the problem Dr and Rema from uh student from univers uh especially to Ali Mr Ali uh a uh strategy to Y and kit to solve negative impact of social media especially compare with the Pakistan and three for Justice from Justice from Randa yeah Special to Mr CER and Mr R ali uh how to protect the journalist yes from pakist in African is very many woman like fation how the strategy to protect the journalist okay the first uh please Dr to answer the question time is yours okay uh thank you for the question Mr Bahar but I think this question can also be answered by Mr Jenning later uh but I'll try my best I give a short t Okay um unfortunately at the moment I do not have the most ideal solution to the uh predicament of the rohinga population of Myanmar and yes International Community has started with a few uh Avenue there's a proceeding before the icj and there a team that was sent to the uh Myanmar for you know to gather information as and and to you know to try to um assess to this assess the situation and come up with their um solution but to those to know Advil because of the uh lack of cooperation by the um military uh government um at that moment yeah it was not a military government it was uh during the democratic government that established uh at the time the the request need and um with and I I think I came across a statement by the um International body that this matter has to be addressed by the regional institution rather than the international institution so that will bring us to asan and aan so what has been done by asan and AR unfortunately I have to see that there's not much concrete um uh solution uh provided for by arar other than you know uh other than uh closed door discussion uh there's no solid and you know um uh strong statement made by the um ringas uh by the members against the rohinga representative at the meeting and I there were few occasion in which you know they simply walk off from the uh agenda yeah they refuse to to even be present and talk about the position and with regard to Malaysia um Malaysia currently have about 300,000 registered rohinga Refugee if is is the biggest among the asan countries so basically we are now you know uh suffering because of the uh human rights situation in Myanmar and the government keep on trying to push them off when they arrive at our our sea yeah they were occasion in which you know they were push back to the Sea and that has receiv received a lot of uh criticism from the Civil Society organization but at the time being there's not much can be done by the government they still refuse to uh rectify the um Refugee convention basically they are saying that know government has to give priority to the rights of the the the citizen rather than the refugee but yet you know those who registered with the UN HC they allowed to you know to remain in the country but unfortunately the domestic legal framework is not supporting them so they're not allowed to work they you know they not allowed to uh enter to the uh public school I mean their children and whatnot um so I what I'm saying is that they must to really resolve these issues there must be a holistic uh action taken uh by the state you know state must be open up on these particular issues you know and by Civil Society organization so there should be more uh Avenue for them to um uh to to to you know establish informal education center for for them to go to school especially the children and also to certain extent to to provide opportunity to them to uh work I think the ideal um durable solution for them is is uh you know other than you know other than uh reement returning them to their own country I think the best one is to resettle them to the the another country yeah like especially in the European but I have to conclude with one remark in Malaysia we are having issues especially the nhsr to distinguish between the ident identification of rohena is also problematic yeah because the are many cases which is reported by unhcr that they actually are B Bangladeshi who claim themselves as a rohinga yeah to get the you know whatever puts a benefit uh if they were to be uh accepted as uh rohinga refuge in thean context um so that's all I I'm looking forward for more uh Avenue this evolutionary approach within asan to to solve this ringia predicament thank you thank you Dr maybe B have a feedback no okay uh please uh Mr Ali maybe you can uh have a answer from from time is yours thank you thank you for this uh question uh first we have to see that uh what is the difference between the Indonesian society and the society in Pakistan in Indonesia women are more empowered here they are allowed to go outside they could work they could have uh the life they want in Pakistan the situation is entirely different uh we have mostly the male dominant society and it is for centuries it is not just for last 10 20 or 30 years but the change is happening it is not like that that women are not going for Education women are not doing jobs but now it is changing because of the economic needs because of the social needs now women are working women are getting education but still there are problems we could not say that that we have done everything change is happening but it will take time and with the help of social media now women are also protesting for their rights they are asking for more and gradually things will be fine but it will take some time so things are happening lastly women's do a big protest in Pakistan it was a me to uh organized protest for a longer period of time that women wanted protection at their work women wanted protection if they are going to the schools and colleges but still uh we could not say that it has been done it is happening and might it will take some more time to happen and to some extent we don't have that much education level which Indonesia has and we don't have that much uh tolerant society which Indonesia or Malaysia has we are not as tolerant as people are here they are humble they are friendly so the the change of mind is also uh doing some things so we gradually things are moving towards the positive side and social media has given people the freedom to speak social media has provided an Avenue where they could uh discuss their problems to find Solutions I hope that you have got the answer okay so if we move to the second question which uh has been asked uh from a friend from Randa that journalists are facing challenges in Africa similarly journalists are also facing problems in entire world like so many journalists are being killed in Palestine similarly in India in Pakistan in Afghanistan so situation is not good for journalists anywhere but uh governments are trying to to protect but when you are writing something which is totally against them so it is difficult for you to stay alive so it is a it is not a crime that journalists are doing but our societies are intolerant we could not uh want that we must not be exposed so when we are exposed so we go to the last stage like one of the Pakistani journalist uh last year he was killed in Kenya he left Pakistan to save his life he went to another country then from there he was deported he went to Kenya and over there in a uh Clash of rebellions and police he was killed so we could not say that the situation is ideal for journalists but anywhere in the any part of the world journalists are not safe because their duty is very difficult when they are going to expose people so obviously so something is happening and you have asked about the cyber security so government has imposed few laws in Pakistan they have a regul regulatory authority to monitor that if people are committing some sort of crimes uh using social media so there is a law and if you follow the law if you report the incident of harassment or anything else so government is taking action and there are so many cases in Pakistan uh where people were caught and they are in the jail they are sentenced so things are gradually uh happening towards that side as well I hope that I have answered your question thank you thank you uh Mr Ali Okay the third question from John yeah yes John or Justice Justin your name please John yeah okay uh this is specialist for special for Mr guo and Mr Ali about the protection for professional journalism in uh special in Africa is very many case for human right protection and which are the strategy for cyber security from uh for journalist uh Mr CER maybe you can uh answer that question please yeah let me try I can't really answer the question but I would like to make a point here uh first of all uh the quality of the legal infrastructure is important important so the more the courts are independent the more the courts understand what human rights mean the more journalists can be protected and secondly the more human rights are really part of our constitutional Identity or national aspiration the more you can expect any officer to subscribe to that and to respect human rights um of of journalists and any other defender of Human Rights um I think that's all I can say because uh I know Africa a little bit but I have been not in Africa for a long long time and um I really don't know what's going on right now the last remark I would like to make uh related to the ringas is we can see the problem of double standards very Val because um the idea of Human Rights globally and in domestic uh contexts is very much depending on consequence and if he claimed human rights to be the Supreme morality shaped in a law what what we sometimes do then we have to follow up and we cannot protect the rights of one group and be interested in the rights of one group in one part of the world and then in another part of the world we don't look at that we don't care about it and I think this is one of the biggest problems um when we talk about the reality of human rights that we have these St standards but that is just something I would like to mention as a problem I don't know the solution maybe more honesty less hypocrisy but um not up to us to realize it thank you thank you Mr C uh Mr Ali do you want to ask one a question yes okay no okay yeah uh okay in the next session for discussion session uh I want to specializ for student from Palestina yes do you want uh have a comment or question for discussion about human right especially in Palestina case thank you very much uh my name is duwi I'm from Palestine and uh because you already notice about that I just have one question as we already know what happened not only in Palestine most of Arab countries the question is all to our speakers are you still believe and think that the human rights already applied and working with that is all my question and thank you very much thank you very much okay now second question from yes please alikum uh my name is a mam zongo uh my question here is is related of foreign influence on penasa so as you as you can see those are many those are many prary compx around the world that destroy the human right and social life especially in Middle East and some countries or in some and some countries in Africa so how can we use or how can we apply panasa to resolve the issue especially related with PR are in the world thank you [Applause] uh and the third question second please your name and for from your country good day everyone participants and present is thank you very much for the very informed presentation I as a participant and pleased with the presentations made by all the participants I have questions for each participants uh the first question I want to ask is um directed towards the first Speaker Mr was Ali based on a presentation on um um media media rights um and individual rights I have a question uh with regards to um what is called private rights versus public rights or security rights um my question is what are some measures taken to address this regarding freedom of expression and protection of individual rights at AC as I said is of public security versus private rights regarding social media what has Pakistan done regarding that because we know that there is a lot of cyber crime um which leads to populism or polarization of whatever issues that we uh the world is experiencing okay the second question is directed toward um Professor Rida speech on hian um what human rights issues is the assian championing or emphasizing on as a regional organization because Asian is a six member Nation um uh consist of six member states so what does uh Asian try to promote with regards human rights issues because human rights is general and what does Asian uh prioritizes with regards to Human Rights um example Myanmar what does uh government in myanma tries to you know prioritize amidst lot of uh suppressions uh violations Etc okay um the third one is addressed to Professor Raina graier regional coordinator of aan Human Rights what is your personal assessment based on your experience with regards to Human Rights issue especially the moral imperative which um tends to stand out with regarding your presentation uh especially on the tendency for moral imperative because your talk leans towards universalism or Universal Maxim because um your talk leads towards um institutional legislations Constitution and so forth so what do you um try to um emphasize in your own experience as as a coordinator at that level do you think the moral um binding or imperative is more uh tend to be more universally applicable and can be um establish as a universal maximum rule okay another question directed towards the last one sorry is on pan casila panasil is um I believe Indonesia when it was formed by um suano it was it is a Beginnings initial years um it was you know authoritarian in in respect but then over time it changes so it was termed as the old order and when um to comes in it was termed as New Order beginning from 1965 but um I just want to um ask because panil is is regarded as the road map or inspiration to guide Indonesia is a nation state so with regards to what you presented um I am very interested on individual minority groups with regards to Human Rights and in this sense I'll be C the initial rbq G lesbians um bisexual transgenders K or questioning PL individuals so what does Indonesia have in place with regards to because we have minorities they tend to be a she when e is actually a e okay when when we have a she events to be a she so what does Indonesia puts into place with regards to policy regulations to um talk about minority issues because in a world of multiculturalism we have a lot of issues so what does Indonesia tries to um uh talk about that uh minority aspect of the population thank you thank you uh from papini okay thank you uh we also have a participant from Zoom maybe the participant from Zoom can have do you have a question uh please par participant from Zoom hello do you have a question for our speakers today participant from Zoom do you have a question for our speaker I already give it the comment yes please okay please uh your name and from what country for you are okay uh is that my voice clear yes yes we can hear you okay well uh my name is Handy fromang University thanks for the opportunity my question is for Mr Ali well I'm interested with statement media Asal voice but what if the country made regulation that aim to threatening but in reality awaken the right to freedom of Expressions one of the example is regulation in digital platform social media social we give our opinion about something government or the others but it can be weapon for us because of our regulation this category he spe or the other things what do you think about that I think at the first uh Med social comment it's can be really freedom of Ops but when it comes to L it's reduce many things I think what do you think about that thank you okay uh another participant maybe do you have a question participant from Zoom do you have a question for our speaker okay I think enough because uh we have uh four question uh the first question [Music] from uh Palestina yes uh I want all of our speaker give the your comment give your feedback from the question from the pestina do you still believe that that can be enforced in Palestina okay may op the first is Dr haa okay time is yours Dr haa uh quick answer I think you ask the unmute Dr your voice is still unmute I'm so sorry okay thank you okay uh the first question uh quick reply yeah to the question do I still believe uh whether human rights work since you know there's a lot of conflict all over the world not only in Palestine but you know in Ukraine and everywhere in rohinga close to home um I what I can agree is that you know the teaching International LA International human rights becoming challenging for me and a lot of my colag yeah because there we receive similar question yeah uh to this but do I still believe yes I still believe I am very optimistic of the framework yeah I believe that you know all the legal framework International framework Regional framework and also domestic Le framework has to be optimized yeah there need to be an evolution there need to be you know uh peer pressures State pressures and it's a process yeah so what happened to the victim is um unfortunate you know uh but people like this must still especially Academia we still have to uh participate in uh you know using this um framework yeah to try to get Justice for them thank you yes and maybe you can answer the another question for papini what does Assan prioritize in empowering human right issue okay I do not have like really a statistic to you know like a like a qu qu qualitative characteristic to uh support my answer but it's purely based on my observation my research work yeah uh I believe because asan is um you know under uh pin yeah the the underpinning principle uh uh that support asan is basically asan uh way or Asian uh value yeah this is not A New Concept yeah so this is like uh introduced like many years decades ago yeah and if we look at Asian value so the they basically Asian leaders they prioritize the collective rights rather than individual rights so hence they have a tendency to uh agree to speak up and reach consensus on um you know economic social and cultural right rather than civil and political right yeah so and they also have a tendency to uh give priority to uh you know social Unity peace yeah um rather than you know strengthening individual right which to a certain extent can be considered as threat to Justice a threat to peace and Harmony within the country and also within the region and if we look at uh the list of uh instrument that has been adopted because this is the way how you look at their work and to see their pattern and their focus you can see that you know they have a declaration they adopted Declaration on protection of the rights of Migrant workers you know in 2007 and then they have a declaration on violence against women and children 2013 as early as 2013 and then they can agree on a convention against trafficking and person especially women and children so I reckon that these are non-controversial issues not uh interfere in the you know issue of boundaries resources you know hence will uh let you know reach the red flag you know everybody will say that oh this is a an interference you know so I I would say that you know the priorities will be more on the low hanging fruit yeah more the issues that can reach consensus easily among the among the members of the asan thank you uh Dr uh the next question for prop Sunni uh the question from Nika yes right okay how we up the panas with the human right situation in the Middle East and Africa and the question for from uh Papa Nini that the question is what what is the impact of P in minority C right at Indonesia action for that okay okay thank you palestin to yes okay uh about my opinion uh upholding human rights in Palestine remain possible but uh it is heavily dependent on resolving to broader Israel Palestina conflict uh mayor uh challenges such uh prolonged conflict occupation blockade humanitarian crisis lack of international support and international Palestinian issue make uh this TUS [Music] however with a global diplomatic pressure a commitment to the uh just solution and effort from international organization and Civil Society uh there is a chance to improve the situation and ensure that the fundamental rights of the palce tenian people are protect okay it's my opinion because uh maybe can um enforce human right but it's th difficult okay number two question about uh panasil okay but uh pil is a foundational philosophic of Indonesia content Universal value that called potentially be applied in other context globally however its implementation and other countries will face several challenges because panasil was shaped by Indonesian unique historical culture and social uh circumstance uh panasil was formed based on Indonesia unique historical experience including its uh struggle for Independence ethnic and religious diversity an effort to create stability and Atmos pluralism applying panasil in other countries may require signific uh uh may require significant adap adaptation uh must be the contest adaptation because a cultural cont sex political system it's different uh C uh cultural context every country has a distinct cultural background example a panasil emphasis on belief in one Almighty Cod but uh might not line with secular or aist countries I think um countries with um system are at is I think maybe a must adaptation uh uh political system countries with different political system sets of absolute monarchist or authoritarian regime my f its challenges to adopt Democratic and deliberative principle embedded in p and um conclusion a principle the value with panasil such as Humanity Unity democracy and social justice contain Universal element that could be applied in the other countries however applying panila directly would not be feasible without adjusting at to fit the cultural social political and religious context of the country in equation each nation has it own history and dynamic that differ from Indonesia meaning panasil would likely need uh to be adapted to remain relevant and applicable in other countries okay uh number three about panasil LGBT LGB perspec in the theory panasil could be interpreted to support LGBT rights particularly from the perspective of Human Rights social justice and just the Civilized Humanity however in its implementation in Indonesia panasil is often used to justify the rejection of LGB right primary due the interpretation of the first principle which is heavily influenced by conservative religious and moral value mightly God debat over panasil and LGBT issue in Indonesia reflect the tension between traditional religious um meaning uh traditional religious values and modern demand for human right and social inclusion to achieve balance uh more inclusive dialogue and need the takes to account the diversity of few in Indonesian Society while respecting the principle of humanity and Justice promoted by LGBT okay thank you for your um feedback and appreciation uh thank you uh mru for from neria do you have a feedback do you have a feedback no still Yes okay enough okay uh Mr so yes maybe you can answer for your we need your comment about the implementation of human right in Palestina Mr graer time is yours thank you uh very brief um Palestine I would say it is very much a matter of power and interest and there we see the problem with human rights um they always interest involved there's power needed and if this is lacking uh human rights will not be realized I think that's the biggest issue however it is not only that we have the actors uh on the state level that are relevant but we also have the domestic actors and um us elections can have an influence the mobilization of public opinions in one or the other direction might have an influence as well and I think we also will see a different approach probably of the International Community when the Ukraine war is taking a turn so in that case uh that will have effects on the Palestine issue as well but we see here clearly the limitations and I think that is explaining one of the paradoxes of human rights which is they are at the same time very strong and very weak they are very believed in and um they are also rejected by many because of Executives and there was another question about the situation in asan um I think um it's interesting to point out here that human rights are not the only form of public reality that is applicable we have religious sources of that we have in many countries uh customary laws like arat in Indonesia or Malaysia which is also providing a kind of morally seated order and we also have different interpretations of Rights um so I think that is very much visible in asan where we have very different approaches in different countries and I think um all of that is somehow reflected on the ground the asan okay uh thank you Mr C and the next the last um Mr Ali okay pleas for the question yeah uh as all of the speakers has mentioned about the question DA has asked about the humanitarian human rights violation in Palestine as we all know that at the moment this is a very sad and the biggest issue in the world and uh all of the Muslim countries are trying to make sure that there must be a solution that Palestine and Israel war must came to an end and this is a big issue even in the American elections as Professor gler has also mentioned so uh efforts are being made let's see when uh things are going to happen and we have to keep hoping because we don't have any other option so hopes are high I hope that things will happen positively second question which was asked about uh private rights and public rights protection of individual rights in cyber security in Pakistan so there is a law uh which is implemented recently in Pakistan that if you uh defate someone if you try to humilate someone or you try to do something on social media uh so there is a deformation law so you could be jailed for that you could be sentenced in that to enter into the private life of someone so laws are being implemented but it takes a Time longer time for the judicial system to to make sure that you get the justice but laws are there so obviously uh we as a social media user we all have to be responsible the ACT we are doing and as a respons ible citizen it's Al also our responsibility not to enter someone's private life or do something on social media that is going to hurt their sentiments or something and the last question which was uh asked about the social harassment on social media so similarly uh same uh law is uh used for deformation if someone has any issue or someone is going to insult harass or uh doing some sort of crime so deformation law and the cyber security law both are uh used to uh sentence someone or to capture those people who are misusing uh the social media accounts are going to uh uh be involved in the crimes which are involved through social media so uh obviously we could not say that uh these things are not happening these are happening but uh when people uh are sentenced or when people are getting justice so then we could see that yeah something is happening so things are uh moving in in this direction as well thank you thank you all for three questions okay thank you Mr Ali uh Ladi this and gentlemen we finally come to the end of this conference and before we close the conference uh we would like to take the closing statement and conclusion for each of our speakers today uh please uh the speaker take the closing statement and the first is we want to Dr for closing statement and conclusion time is yours for Dr okay I don't expect this okay what I can see is that let's work together let's work together uh each of us can contribute to the uh betterment in terms of the safeguarding and protection of human rights in our country yeah and also if we do have the opportunity to participate uh in the Improvement or you know in in the work of the uh institution at the higher level uh which is the regional or the international uh body and then by all means let's continue let's continue doing what we uh believe in what we invest in yeah to uh contribute for the betterment of the um safeguarding of Human Rights uh and fundamental Liberty don't give up keep optimistic that's all thank you okay thank you and the next Please Mr gr do you have a closing statement and conclusion for your um material presentation please thank you uh I just would like to point out the function of basic rights or human rights for Democratic Society uh that is has to be underlined very important to be aware that the protection of Human Rights is not only in the favor or the interest of the individual but of the society at large there is no liberal democracy or there is no working democracy if you have no rights so if no one dares to speak or to think or to express herself or himself then we will have no democracy and this link is very important and uh the last link I would like to stress is link to rule of law without the rule of law without a reliable legal enforcement human rights are likewise valueless and on the other hand if the rule of law is supposed to realize human rights the rule of law will be more respected the last point I would like to make is that um when we look at that perspective human rights have a collective value for society they're not just issue of one individual trying to enforce the individual interest against the community interest but respecting human rights is something that is respect for the community if that Community adopts human rights as core value that's my thank you okay thank you Mr G and Mr Ali maybe you can uh closing statement and conclusion for your presentation thank you I would say that most of the Asian countries have the newborn democracies they are not for the centuries here so we have been colonized and now we have started witnessing uh the democracies we are making mistakes but we are learning from those so if we keep learning from our mistakes so maybe in a decade or two our democracies will be more stronger if democracies will be more stronger so obviously human rights will not be violated and human rights will be respected and at the individual level everyone has to be responsible I as a citizen if we obey the laws so the law will also obey us and law will also take its way so this this is the best thing at the individual level then we have the responsibility at the community level and then at the country level so this way we have to move bit by bit and our democracies will give us everything which we desire thank you thank you so much thank you Mr Ali okay the last from thank you uh Mr Dona um at my uh closing statement uh the interply the strong State panasil and human right reflect the ongoing challenges in Indonesia democracy panasil remain a symbol of unity and stability but it's interpret ation continues to invols as the country seek to reconcile its traditional faue with Mod Democratic and human rights ideal thank you thank you well uh ladies and gentlemen this is our session our last session uh we like to thanks for our speakers first for Dr Raa and Mr gr and also Mr Ali and pro Sunni for the informative and interesting presentation today and for the and also for all the participant in this conference thank you for you and uh finally give the Applause for our speaker and our participant thank you very much all right thank you so much for all amazing speakers and moderators again give Applause for our speakers and moderators okay next we will move to the next agenda to give momento as a form of appreciation to the speakers and moderators who have contributed to this conference first we will represent the momento for the virtual speakers the first one will be given for associate professor rohida Nordin we invite Miss rohida to receive a momento virtually through the screen that has been prepared and we will take a screenshot in 1 two three okay once again one two three okay thank you so much for associate professor Haida nin for the next one we will give in the momento virtually through the screen for Mr Hing glacer Riner and we will also take a screenshot so we will take a picture in one two three okay once again one two three thank you so much for Mr hening Glasser Riner and Mrs associate professor Rida Nerin for the next one we will PR repr present momento in here for Professor Dr Sunni UMO feros s m that will be given by Dr gatri suti s mha for Professor Sunni UMO feros and Dr gatri please take a stage [Music] [Applause] [Music] okay for the next one we will invite Mr wazer Ali to come forward and receive a momento that will be given by conference committee by Aza for Aza and Mr w Ali please take a [Music] seat okay and last but not least we will will given AO for our beloved moderator Dr Dona buddi karisma s mha and also will be given by one of the conference committee for Dr Don bud kisma and also the committee the time is [Music] [Music] yours for AA you can give the momento to Dr D kisma [Music] okay thank you so much for your excellent presentation at the seminar for all speakers and moderators that help us in the guiding the national seminar it was a truly outstanding presentation we hope the material share will be beneficial for all participants and we canly ask all speakers and moderator to take their seats again well everyone we have reached the end of the International Conference for democracy and National resilience 2024 we thank you for all of your attendance and participants we hope this conference provide valuable insight and contribution to the protection of human rights in the Contemporary Democratic era as your master of ceremony I acknowledge and apologize for any mistake just the International Conference strengthening the human rights protection against Global threats in a contemporary democracy era is officially closed we look forward to seeing you at hnr next year for all participants please can the attendance from that showed in the screen for receive a certificate all the participants that attend here must fill out the the presentation uh the attendance form after the event Clos the all participants shall fill out the form to get the certificate of the agenda today so please can the BARC that has been shared in the screen all right thank you you can fill out after the agenda is closed so uh because our event is already closed I'm as your master of ceremony bding farewell so Shalom please give Applause to close this even today the next month we would like to provide additional information for all attendance and foreign students we would like to improve that we provide meals for our guests and foreign students and for other students you already allowed to leave the room and don't forget to fill out attendance form to receive a certificate for the pepper presentation participants after break kindly continue the presentation agenda in LPM building and for the last as a closing let's enjoy the final musicial performance by Claudia and jordania and Jordan [Applause] [Music] I was a liar I gave the fire I know I should have thought it at l I'm being honest feel like a 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