Arab goswami on the debate good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to Super Prime Time Max on the debate with arob so now mam banerji says that she did not intend to say what she said after saying yesterday that she no longer believes in a policy of no Revenge after instigating her workers after telling them to take revenge God knows on whom she now says she has been misunder understood after threatening everyone she now says I did not threaten every day she changes her position it is a mark of an insecure leader who does not know what she's talking about she says I did not threaten the students but the fact is she threatened even if she threatened the political parties who were protesting against her was it right of her to do so and now she's got so much criticism since yesterday the whole of Bengal is out in revolt against mam banerji so much so that this time even people who you know who Puja she sponsors even people are saying that she will they will not take money from from her government anymore people are upset ladies and gentle M man should realize that the people of Bengal have rejected her she should not have threatened the people yesterday and now she says her words are being misinterpreted how can words be misinterpreted when you say if anything happens in Bengal the same thing will happen in Assam Northeast utarak jarand orisa and she says I will topple people in Delhi which means she's part of this kind of experiment to think about using mobs to topple governments in Delhi she's basically saying she will topple the state government in Delhi she will remove Narendra Modi as prime minister if anybody threatens her in Bengal the fact of the matter is she has threatened herself she's an incompetent corrupt chief minister and her position is such she has compromised herself yesterday the words of mam banerji were so horrific so unthought and she went on such a rage against the people who were protesting against her that we were all horrified now she's clarifying mam banerji frankly let me tell you this we don't accept your clarification the things that You' have done the way you've spoken the way have stood against the people against the victims and for the oppressors kind of comments you have made against rape victims your insensitivity your misogyny your hatred for the voice of the people is all coming through and that's why as I said it's a matter of time before you lose power power is something that is deserved by people who are voted to power mam vaneri were voted to power though I think in most questionable circumstances we know the kind of violence that you Unleashed before and after the elections the point is not that the point is you placed yourself against the people you can get the Applause of some party workers when you threaten the people but ladies and gentlemen mam banerji knows we all know eventually the people win and the people must win in Bengal the people are winning mam banerji is losing debate number one she's incited the people she's in her political workers against the people of Bengal and now she's trying to do a sharp U-turn she say she hasn't spoken a word against the students ladies and gentlemen we all know what she's been talking about and why why does she talk like that interesting case study tonight at debate number two we have a completely cornered sidara in the middle of a massive land scam the biggest land scam in the state of Karnataka is in the dock that's debate number two at debate number three tonight ladies and gentlemen we have an admission from the deep tech companies that they work with the American CIA FBI to try and overturn governments to interfere and take sides in domestic politics and that's why I feel the Americans going around in meeting America uh Indian politicians is an attempt to interfere in our national affairs with the proof that the American deep State interferes I come to you with a lot of exclusive details on that that's at nine an unmissable debate and here are the headlines this Thursday evening on the debate [Music] tonight abaya's parents make damning allegations they are sure that there is Foul Play that their daughter was raped and murdered and that the officials are covering up to hide their dirty and dark secrets and while M Ban's policemen continue to brutalize and have brutalized in the past unarmed protesters mta's parents say and they appeal that the protest demanding Justice for Abaya must not [Applause] stop first mam banerji incited yesterday used unpardonable words she provoked and after the she saw how angry people were and that her words had fired back on her she has received so much Flack that today she spent the day taking a sharp uturn after saying that if Bengal Burns then other states will follow she now says that she hasn't uttered a single word against the students or their movements the hash meu wave in mollywood has cornered the Pinar vajan LED left government in Kerala a split seems to be emerging within the party with the cpim state Secretariat defending the accused actor and MLA Mukesh and Annie Raja of the CPI demanding that her government should take action [Applause] a day after Republic Canada exposed the Saraya government's role in the Karnataka landscap the Karnataka high court today while hearing the case has pointed out that Governor tarchand gaot could be acting on his own initiative regarding the sanction to prosecute chief minister Saraya in the mudas camp in which case he is not subject to the will of the cabinet the next hearing is slated for the 31st of August [Music] ladies and gentlemen m banerji is nervous she's nervous because she knows that she will soon be out of power she's nervous because she knows that she has completely failed as chief minister of the state to provide Justice to Abaya and that is why ladies and gentlemen after she provoked used unfortunate words incited the people made threatening noises says she wants revenge out of nervousness today she has taken a sharp U-turn let's debate democracy versus [Applause] Anarchy people versus mam [Music] for West Bengal chief minister Mamta banery is on the back foot [Music] [Applause] a day after threatening against the people's movement demanding Justice for Abaya Mamta has now issued a clarification that she was hitting out at the BJP and not the protests but the Bengal Chief Minister's clarification is too little too late and it reeks of politics rubbing salt on the wounds of aba's [Music] parents Force [Music] [Music] [Music] we by sparking a political war of words over the rape and murder of Abaya Mamta has drawn the Wrath and anger of the entire nation mam G is making a very derogatory condemnable and scandalous statement to hide her own sin why did the place of occurence was changed why was the parents of the unfortunate lady doctor the victim of barbaric offense was not told a day after mamas thread abaya's parents have urged the protest to continue the voice of abaya's parents is the voice of the people forcing its way out of the filth of political Blame Game and cover up [Music] [Applause] H Justice for Abaya will [Music] prevail you know sanjua and anirban Banji it's not even funny anymore the way she talks she was protesting against herself she went to the streets chief minister protesting against the home minister somebody tell her the home minister you are the home minister you are the health minister so she protested against herself now she's contradicting herself the moot question we have to debate tonight did she threaten yesterday that's a real Point did she use threatening language or not after having done that to say I was only quoting a phrase from Sri ramakrishna you know that is all trying to get away with it first of all you should not bring ramakrishna in the middle of your political arguments to make any kind of a point you are threatening the people now she says I did not speak against the students but she said if anybody is plotting against you then you must hiss at them then she give those rolling eyed Expressions you know what I mean you know what I mean you know it was all that you know I will not stop you earlier I felt you should not take revenge but now I want revenge I revenge against who why Revenge even if the BJP she says I'm speaking against BJP okay even if she's asking for revenge against BJP and rolling AR eyes is that the way to talk in a state where there is so much political violence she's instigating the Thro workers to go and attack the BJP workers so unfortunate so un which one of you would like to open the debate onirban or Sanju who would like to open the debate that is that is merely that is merely the interpretation of the BJP and their well wishes the BJP has been politically decimated time and again uh in West Bengal by the trinal Congress in this case the incident the gruesome incident that took place at RG cor every person in Bengal was upset they are still upset each one of us want the investigation to be done impartially and in the strongest possible manner so that the culprit or culprits are tried before a trial court and put under maybe jail capital punishment whatever the Court decides but what we are actually seeing is the BJP trying to fulfill their dreams of toling the chair of mamata banery using this issue for their own political gains which the people have time and again rejected their So-Cal no that you will lose the and yesterday the bond so your worry is that you will lose the chair yesterday yesterday when they called a strike no no listen to this yesterday when they called a strike a person a man running a shop of helmets bikers that wear helmets he was not ready to shut down his shop so what did the BJP leaders and workers do they looted his shop this this is all on camera these people are helmet looters now they ransacked his shop shoplifted all the helmets that were available and they were also saying shakar so this is how this is how they conduct their political strike nobody wanted a strike in Bengal leased by the BJP yes everyone wants Justice for the incident everyone wants the CBI to actually conclude the investigation in time what is the CBI doing no not a single question asked of the CBI will you ask a single question 15 days have passed 15 days what have they done what is the progress all the allegations all the allegations the answers must be given by the CBI because they are handling the investigation right now if anything went wrong if anything was done wrong by someone let the CBI haul that person up nobody is going to bat for them nobody them but is the CBI doing the needful that is the question of the r right now will Sanju answer for the CBI no I I my point is please note viewers she has done the U-turn the amazing thing is Sanju I'll just come to you amazing thing about trinal Congress first their leader goes and makes statements she threatens people she says and I'll tell you the Bengali words she said yesterday she said to Narendra Modi Mr Modi if you burn Bengal if your people burn Bengal then she says it will not stop it will continue to Assam to jarand to uttar Pradesh to biar to Orissa again again you and she she didn't one minute let me complete please let me complete Onan I'm responding after you spoke whatever you may I may intentionally maliciously you can do what you want this is a free country we are now don't behave like why are you so afraid of showing the truth itself now now you know what she says says translate says she says can you be criticize her all you want have the courage to show the truth don't why are mistr this is what I I will I will I I will one minut SJ sanj Anan is using the opportunity he knows he's on the number one network in the country it's a chance to get some brownie points with his leader now my point is she said reason if if there is a fire in Bal it will not it will not stop it will not stop in Bengal the fire will continue then she says Mr Modi after chair then she completely lost control will not at one point she totally lost control she said Modi I will topple your chair it will tremble you talk like that exactly the chair of like that viewers you ever heard someone talk like that of course I can't believe it of of course mam ban the chair of Mr Modi is anyway anyway sh this can't be a monologue I did not inter Anan I did not interject you even once when you were speaking can I please have my say then you can rebut we are having a sensible debate I heard you very patiently I know we've had some very nasty interactions but I did not Heckle you today I expect that curtsy from you thank you you can interject and Heckle me after I'm done first and foremost to the allegation by anirban that the BJP is politically a lightweight in West Bengal and hence BJP is using this Kolkata horror the argor horror to score brownie points I completely debunk this I can use the same logic and say that when hatas happened in utar Pradesh we did not say that the opposition was using hatas to bring down Yogi adityan when something happens in Assam we do not say that the opposition is using uh you know Law and Order situation in Assam to bring down himanta Bish Sharma my simple logic is this Law and Order under the seventh schedule of the Constitution is a State subject have this happened in utar Pradesh you would be Bing for Yogi adan's blood had this happened in harana you would be Bing for naab sing s blood had this happened in tripura you would be Bing for manik saha's blood had this happened in Assan you would be Bing for him's blood had this happened in utarak you would be baying for pushkar Singh dami's blood why is it that when something as gruesome as gory as blood curdling as Pine chilling as the Kolkata rape and murder happens in West Bengal why is it that the BJP should not ask questions Point number one point number two why is it wrong to politicize this because political movements can often lead to Deliverance of Justice Point number three and the biggest elephant in the room is this why is it that today there are 752 FastTrack courts 49 exclusive poxo quotes I admit mam Baner is right when she says we want capital punishment for rapists but mam banery you were given the infrastructure the resources the capital by the Union government you were asked to set up 123 FastTrack courts you did not set up even one you were asked to set up 20 coxo courts you did not even set up one and please tell me why is it that you have not sacked vinit goyel who's not covered himself in glory he was the igp CID when the cuni rape happened in 2013 all the eight got to scotf free the same man vinit goel today is now the Kolkata Police Commissioner instead of delivering Justice to the deceased and her parents he's busy sending notices to social media influencers trying to bully them trying to intimidate them is this what Kolkata police has come down to you are throttling free speech and then on the floor of she failed as cm and incompetent M Baner failed as home minister and incompetent M but she's also become weak now you see Minister she's become weak I'll tell you I have an observation you reply I have an observation before you reply thank you I'll lower your fader so that I can make my point and you can reply after that you see viewers the difference now is that mamab banerji is become weak people are against her why has she issued a clarification let me tell you viewers it's very unusual for mam banerji to issue a clarification I didn't mean that I'm sorry students don't misunderstand I didn't speak against you there's a campaign against me it is the mark of her weakness you know at one point of time Sanju anman M I'm going to attack everyone everyone is going to fall at my feet I'll give police summons I will drag people out I will threaten them I will send my goons now it is mam vaneri no no I didn't say that don't misunderstand I didn't mean it this way students I'm not against you it's proof that she has realized that even all her political goons are weaker than the people yesterday I saw a lot of people cackling behind mam banerji when she was threatening oh our leader is in her elements now she's back she's aggressive realize the leader has realized within one day you can't threaten people anymore obviously she's got feedback Onan you can come on my show and try to be aggressive but at the end of the day you will have to go out on the streets and you will have to hear what the people say okay now that is why she has clarified I I go out on the street now why why did she clarify I want to know why did she clarify it's so unusual no for mam banerji to issue a clarification made by Sanju okay the claims made by Sanju regarding Fast Track course and poxo course in West Bengal uh any person in West Bengal who is uh bit aware of how the qutes function know that there are FastTrack qutes and foxo CTS in each and every session district cours and FASTT trck course in all the subdiv why she clarify don't avoid my subject Don't Run Away answer the question why was she forced to issue a clarification you see we are enjoying it we've seen violence we like to see your leader cornered and have to clarification why is she clarified you can be elated you can be elated at your own perception that she was cornered and that therefore she clarified and no problems with that because every time the BJP and their well-wishers thought that mam banerji is down and out now we can conquer Bengal and that is the very moment they got a type slap from the electorate not mamata Baner of the TMC from the electorate on their face and they come down from 18 to 12 they come down from up do to 77 now they don't even know what is the number ofl this is how this is how this is how this is how their dreams of conquering West Bal goes unfulfilled every time no matter how much the BJP or their wellers no matter how much think un they will always be un does not want the in West Bal does tell me why is supicious I think the question ask tting the djp Rajiv Kumar who stained under the N don't investigating the outside who is investigating the sh scam is investigating landscape you have no aspirations of dislodging but Narendra Modi has third rra Modi is the only minister in 6 the country for in where are the many how many personed no matter how much you try no matter how much you try the CBI fa1 sexual assault cases against women C it thetion rate in India at 2.7% why is it that M has not sacked a single of the police station file an fir f was 14 hours after the de body of the disease was found why is it that ask C ladies and gentlemen I have I have one question on the definition of conspiracies and the India's number one conspiracy theorist viewers viers can I talk to you know Anan doesn't listen to me you see an I would give the number one conspiracy theorist of India award to mam banerji she's a conspiracy in everything now tell me anirban the the parents of the victim have said the protest must continue the protest against the mam banery government must continue are they also conspiring would you call them conspirators too have also said that you threaten them the CBI would you threaten them to also said they're upset with the c don't you dare threaten the people anban can you play that recording Anan don't you dare threaten the people anymore they the Tide has turned the parents are the ti has protecting s just give me answer to that question you are asking questions of the CBI thank God for the CBI C this was CBI thank God we know this you think think that was protected by was protected by someone the CBI act why doesn't the CBI whyn't the CBI ladies gentlemen ladies and gentlemen an an you're so on the back foot today man you are so terribly on the back foot today you have nothing to say you have no defense you've lost your mojo man you have no you have no strength in your argument your voice you have no conviction writing on the wall learn to see the writing I'm glad m is clarified but next time you come on my program next time you come on my program don't keep saying you don't know Bengali I know Bengali better than you it is 15 days much better than you in fact it is 15 days that a c a million times better than you ask a question set up exclusive you were defending her yesterday she has clarified today