Interview with Phil M. Jones

Jul 7, 2024

Interview with Phil M. Jones

Guest and Context

  • Guest: Phil M. Jones, author of the book "Exactly What to Say"
  • Main Topics:
    1. The power of magic words to transform communication with clients
    2. Importance of timing in referrals
    3. How to package your requests to get a yes
  • Key Point: Change the way you communicate with your clients, whether you're a designer, entrepreneur, or creative.

Phil M. Jones Biography

  • Started his first business at age 14 washing cars.
  • Has held leadership positions in sales and founded companies in real estate and football clubs.
  • In 2008, founded a sales training company for people who didn't see themselves as salespeople.
  • Has written 11 books, spoken in 59 countries, and delivered 3500 paid presentations.

Key Concepts from "Exactly What to Say"

Power of Magic Words

  • What they are: Sequences of words that influence the subconscious.
  • Importance: Help people make decisions faster, which increases action and, eventually, transactions.

Examples of Magic Words

  • Magic Phrase: "Any chance you could do me a small favor?"
    • Usage Context: Asking for referrals when a client says "thank you."
    • Structure:
      1. Ask for a small favor first (when someone says "thank you" they feel indebted).
      2. "You wouldn't happen to know maybe just one personā€¦"
      3. Provide a specific example of the help you provided.

Rewriting Biography Every Six Months

  • Why? To reflect continuous growth and career advancement.
  • Ultimate Goal: To have a reputation so strong that you only need one word to identify yourself, like "Beyonce."

Strategies for Public Speaking

  • Approach: It's not a speech to an audience, but a one-on-one conversation with many people at once.
  • Importance: Recognize the responsibility of using other people's valuable productive time.
  • Techniques:
    • Stand up and move around, make eye contact.
    • Include specific humor and relevant event references.
    • Open and close strongly.
    • Alternate between stories and points to keep interest.

How to Improve Your Communication Skills

  • Commitment to continuous practice: You can't master it, only practice.
  • Efficient debriefing: LBs and NTS model (Like Best and Next Time).
  • Repetition with intention: Practice intentionally at every opportunity.

Conclusion and Recommendations

  • Acquire and read "Exactly What to Say" repeatedly to internalize and apply the concepts.
  • Connect with Phil M. Jones on Instagram and explore more of his work and the various editions of his book.