V ramaswami welcome back to the Megan Kelly show that was former 2024 presidential candidate V ramaswami who took the stage last night and killed he did so well Jokes Aside he also Came Out Swinging on the topic of immigration sharing how his personal story shaped his View and his solution to fixing the crime stemming from the border crisis in our country our message to every legal immigrant in this country is this you're like my parents you deserve the opportunity to secure a better life for your children in America but our message to illegal immigrants is also this we will return you to your country of origin not because you're all bad people but because you broke the law and the United States of America was founded on the rule of [Applause] law powerful words but over on CNN former Biden White House communications director Kate bingfield had this toned deaf reaction there was a lot in there about rule of law there was this like constant hammering of rule of law and you know he talked about the you know the border and if you break the law we're sending you back rule of law rule of law I don't that is an incredibly Rich message coming from a party that has spent the last year you know essentially like tearing down the justice system in this country saying it's politicized saying you know Trump shouldn't be Trump should be above the law has really been their argument so I think there is a fundamental plus the Insurrection there's well plus the Insurrection so I actually think there's a fundamental tension there in that argument uh that's it's not particularly well delivered from the Vic there but also I think is going to be a problem for Republicans if that's where they're hanging their hat you think joining me now V ramaswami former 2024 presidential candidate and host of the truth podcast V welcome back good to be here so the Republicans like you you're not allowed to raise Law and Order anymore because you objected to what was done to president Trump with the law fair yeah well the reality is that too is a violation of Law and Order Megan and one of the things I also said in the speech was addressing black Americans where I think this issue actually does land is that for a long time Republicans were maybe a little toned deaf to Black Americans who have said for a long time the justice system was unfair well the reality is we don't want a justice system that's unfair either on the basis of your skin color or your political beliefs so I think this culture of the abandonment of the rule of law actually runs deep the same reason we have this Southern border crisis is in many ways linked to the reason why we have an abandonment of the rule of law when the people at the top of the chain themselves view the law as an inconvenience people at the doj people at even investigative agencies like the FBI local prosecutors like those who have abused the law to not only pursue law fair against President Trump but even countless other politically unsympathetic defendants that is part of a cultural breakdown and and so you know what I disagree with her characterization that's either or they go together and I think that's what we need to restore uh over on I mean I watch all the channels I love seeing reactions to all this stuff van Jones was saying I don't think black people want to be patronized like V did so any Outreach by a republican to Black voters saying you know what because you had a great part in your speech about that that's patronizing that you're not allowed to do it's better just to remain silent not seek their vote you see yeah and so I think that AOC was reacting to my speech last night as well she was rather frenetic about it I think part of what's going on is the thing they're upset about is not actually Republican policies because I think there's not a lot to be upset about they're upset we're picking off their voters that's actually what's going on don't fish in our pond there's a little bit of territorialism we own these people and I don't mean that in a loaded sense I mean it in an accurate sense they view this as our pond the Democrats view it don't come over and invade our pond what actually the way we look at it is every American ought to be persuaded based on the merits of what you're offering them and a lot of black voters a lot of Hispanic voters a lot of gay voters are actually saying you know what the Republican party isn't the one that it was portrayed to be and in some sense isn't the one that it was 20 years ago so look don't worry because CNN did have on a republican to defend you it was Jonah Goldberg of the dispatch oh really I didn't I missed that it was ter it was terrible it was so mean I I was like he clearly doesn't like you I won't bore you with what he said but I was like that's the defense like you know this is the new CNN with the fair and balanced you know commentary in response to one of the Stars at the convention somebody who hates him and somebody who hates some more you know I think part of me last year every time this would happen would take this as the short-term thing as a re reactionary impulse is a badge of honor and and it sort of is but it's also kind of sad in the country where I would love the country that I knew where we could debate vigorously like not in some sort of light-hearted kid gloves kind of way but debate like hell really disagree on the issues but to still be friends at the end of it or if not friends at least have some level of mutual respect to say that we actually care about the country but we have deeply differing visions and I think much of what the modern left particularly in the media has become is to use the issue of in whether Trump was you could say insurrectionist to dictator to rapist now Trump itself is become too popular that they're replacing it with fill-in the blank project 2025 whatever you want to call it right they have to have some label that affixes an emotional response to that label rather than actually engaging in just an underlying debate on the merits which is too bad for the country because I think the Republican Party would be better off if we were challenged by the best version of the other side but we're not getting that today it's so true too bad it was and I again it's not important but it was a personal attack you know it was his feelings about you and and your ambition or whatever it was but it was it was not on the merits it did not take on the substance yeah and of course you know there's a reason too bad people don't I just don't think the country is better off for that the AOC tweet which you refer to reads as follows young people don't take well to bigoted leaders Who attack lgbtq rights Outlaw abortion cozy up to gun manufacturers and oil execs and support a rapist for a president if you want to be cool so badly try giving a damn about other people Beyond yourself might open a few doors so the problem here is the young people are taking well to Republicans these are not things that Republicans stand for yeah but they are that so she's just pronouncing this is what they want and yet the polls are showing us something different this election absolutely and that I think is just the beginning of a Title Wave that's coming so she was responding to a section of my speech where I directly addressed gen Z and again it's fishing in their Pond that they're offended by be revolutionary AB absolutely and I think the Revolutionary thing right now is to say something maybe different than what you're expecting to say on your college campus call yourself a conservative is what I said and I do think that that's the more rebellious move today but nonetheless one of the interesting things about the attx she took is she at least was a little bit more elegant than some of the CN people trying to wrap it around a policy disagreement let's just double click on that for a second she talks about gay rights this is the Republican platform right now is the Republican platform as it exists today at this convention is not opposed to gay marriage no she points to abortion women in their bodies literally this has said it is is a not a federal issue Donald Trump to myself when I ran for president to now the Republican Party opposes a federal ban on abortion so part of their strategy now Megan seems to be there's only four months left on the election until the election just tell the voters something other than the Republican policies Because the actual Republican policy platform is quite appealing to most Americans so we can't compete on that just assume for the next four months we can tell them that the Republican platform is something that is other than what it actually is and maybe most voters won't notice and it might be their best bet actually if you think about it winning on the merits in this short of a time with the numbers looking like what they are instead people get their news from different places just bet on the fact that enough Americans are going to think that Republicans support a federal ban CLE Harrison Joe Biden have both said Donald Trump would sign a federal ban that's false in fact he's taking heat from Republicans yes for saying that he's opposed to a federal ban that's right but their strategy now seems to be less on the merits and even less on the historyonics it's one of the forks in the road for Biden which I can come back to in a second but the remaining strategy is just lie about the Republicans actually believe and then just hope the voters don't notice between now and November do you all back taxes pandemic relief is now over along with hiring thousands of new agents and field officers oh great the IRS has kicked off 2024 by sending over 5 million pay up letters to those who have unfiled tax returns or balances owed don't wave your rights and speak with them on your own tax Network USA a trusted tax relief firm has saved over $1 billion in back taxes for their clients and they can help 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