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Webinar Insights with Tanya Rozanes-Olevski

Hello everyone! Let me know if you can hear and see me well and welcome to our today's webinar. Okay, hi hi! How are you? Let us know down in the comments, down in the chat where you guys are from.

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Hi, I'm Nastya from Tilda. And today we have a very special guest, Tanya Rozanes-Olevski, who is a founder of LinguaCom Studio, a language studio that is focusing not only on English learning, but also on content creation, teachers training, consulting, and more. So Tanya's platform has such a unique blend of language learning, business, that we decided to invite her to share her case study with all of you. And of course, Tanya's platform is on Tilda, so you can implement her advice in your own projects as well.

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Okay. So now that we are done with the introductory part, I will welcome our guest, Tanya Rosanis. Hi, Tanya.

Hi. Hi. How are you? thank you very much uh can you hear me okay yeah i can hear you well um so yeah i think um i will quickly go over um today's uh plan what we're gonna learn today and so first of all of course the whole stream is dedicated to online learning but we're also going to talk about tanya's product um uh which is lingua.com studio um yeah so tanya is going to talk about uh first of all creating a learning product from idea to execution organizing your product or project in a system that really works that is really manageable and then she's going to talk about drawing a map for your business so how you plan how you plan ahead so you are prepared, you can see.

what you have to do in the future. Then we are going to discuss a very, I think, a very relevant topic in our webinars, which is social media versus website. So is it better to have, to be active on different kinds of social media, or is it better to invest in your own platform? And finally, we are going to talk, or Tanya is going to talk about strategies to navigate uncertainty in content planning. I think it's a really cool topic to discuss as well.

And now I'm gonna turn on Tanya's presentation, and she's going to introduce herself as well. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Nastya. And thanks, Tilda, for having me.

It's a huge privilege. I've I'm very excited to be here and to be able to talk a little bit about both my love to the product and also to share a little bit about how it worked in my case. So just a few words about what I do. I help companies, NGOs and individuals to communicate in English. like in a broad sense.

It usually involves writing, editing, translating, sometimes just teaching the English language to people who want to improve it. So briefly, I started out as a solopreneur in 2007. I was a student then and I just, you know, I loved, I was a literature and psychology student. who loves languages and wants to do you know loves traveling languages so i wanted to do everything that is connected to languages and i just happen to have lots of hobbies so it was really hard for me to choose what what is it like that i want to focus on so uh that's how it all started and like fast forward today uh lingua.com is just 100 online business uh with some occasional um like offline activities but uh and i work with a small team um which i very appreciate very much and um but i will talk about this a bit later so um this is uh just about the website yeah this is a link if anybody's interested um i have um besides you like besides what I've already said, I train teachers and educators to navigate educational technology. That means that if teachers have problems with a certain app or certain platform, so they sometimes write me, send questions to me, and I just help solving these things. And I give them ideas, you know, which platforms to use for lessons.

I have this Telegram channel where I share tips and ideas. if anyone's interested, it's on the screen. So yeah, so that's a lot. You can say, wow, that's a lot.

So that's really a lot. It's always been. It looks like it always will be.

So for me, the biggest challenge is always to focus and to prioritize. So as Nastya has already mentioned, we're going to discuss this. how to organize your project in a system. If you're like me and you have lots of ideas and you just need some sort of organizational process, so that hopefully will help. Another question is, you know, social media versus websites.

What to do if you have all of them? And so what do you do? And the last question is very relevant, especially the recent years with lots of, you know, with COVID, lots of conflicts going on.

So a lot of small businesses, I think, share the same trouble like me. You have to keep all your social media and system in order and you still have to take care of a lot of uncertainty around you. OK, so I'll start with a little bit. of a retro like what happened to me as I said I started with a pen pencil a little whiteboard and a table and my business looked like this for for for a very long time.

From 2007 till 2013, I mostly taught offline and I also did a lot of translation work back then. And then I started using Zoom and teach on Zoom a little bit. But of course, as many of us...

with COVID, my business turned into this. So it was a lot of fun, and it still is. And most of it online, with all the, of course, with all the advantages of, you know, being able to reach out to students, you know, all over the world, and to clients all over the world. But at the same time, the, of course, in a way, Sometimes I miss the time, you know, the times with the table and the pencil. And so I do that sometimes as well.

So mostly my work looks like this. I work with clients. I edit, translate, and give live sessions to students and clients.

Okay. So today in our studio, we have classes for adults mostly and for teens. We have book club.

We do editing and writing and translation. And sometimes there are workshops. So that's a lot to navigate. That's a lot of products.

And I'm a person who has, as I said, difficulty to give something up. I'm like, okay, I love this and I love that. I would like to... These are the... things that I'm passionate about and that's why I'm trying to keep them going.

So it's a big challenge to just organize your ideas, your project in a system. And so I started a few years ago, I started really looking for the core of all my interests and all the services and products that I had. I tried to find something where they all meet up, a point where they all come together. What was their common, to find their common route. And very luckily, a few years ago, I joined a business community for women.

Women who also, like me, had a small business or creative project. And they were. They looked for a support group. It was the beginning of COVID and it felt very lonely, especially with the uncertainty going around.

So I joined this community. And it was then when I first actually experienced just sitting down and doing a full audit of my business. And I formulated what my vision was. And, um...

I tried to formulate what was the picture of what is it that my business contributes to the world. And when I'm saying I sat down, I actually booked, I think, no less than three or four hours. And I sat down with a pen and paper and lots of questions that I printed out. that related to my business.

And some of those questions I decided to write here on the slide. So it's not enough to just sit and think about it. When you actually write it down, and you have the written answer, things suddenly start to happen. um to change so i i wanted to to hello um i think i lost connection for a second is that still working i think we had a glitch but um I can hear you fine. Guys, can you write down in the chat if you can hear as well?

Because I think there was a slight glitch, but everything is okay now. I think you can continue. Great.

So yeah, thank you very much for that. So yeah, I started asking myself, where do I want to be in a few years time? What is it like to have a brand?

What is my brand? Do I have a plan? I didn't have it. Just for all of you who are also a small business.

Um, if you have your answer to this question is no, it's exactly what my answer to the question was at the time. I thought that I had a clear answer, but I actually didn't. I've never like sat down and written the answer to this question. So I didn't have an annual plan.

I didn't have a brand. I didn't know exactly what my ideal client was. I was thinking, you know, my self-perception was I can do so many things I can help anyone but when I sat down quietly I realized that I did have an like a the vision of an ideal client in my mind um and it was simply you know people that I enjoyed working with mostly um um I didn't have a clear description of products uh I thought okay I have lessons I you know, English lessons and I have literature lessons.

So when I sat down and it was with a support group with other women who also had small, small business. So, you know, people ask me, okay, what kind of sessions do you, do you have? And then I realized that I have longer sessions, shorter sessions, sessions focused on one, like on business English and second.

sessions focused on academia or tests. And then I realized that I actually have a bunch of products, like 10, a huge amount of products, and some of them probably had to go. So some of them were not bringing me any profit, or so I had to decide that I should give them up.

So it was a very enlightening moment in my career that I actually sat down and wrote all these things. And the last question, do I have a website? Do I have processes?

I actually had a website. I was very proud of it back then. The thing is that the website was done by another person, like a student friend of mine who was a professional in creating beautiful websites.

I had absolutely no idea how to log in and how to change content on that website. So it was like, it basically wasn't even something that I could use practically. So I did have a website, but it wasn't very helpful.

And I didn't have any written processes. So that was a huge mess, you can realize. Okay.

So most importantly, I wanted to ask myself, why am I doing this? Why am I doing everything that I'm doing? And it turned out that all those activities that I performed had actually the same root. They were all targeted towards a better and more meaningful communication with people, like between people. To put it simply, I just...

wanted to help people understand each other and each other's ideas to be able to communicate ideas better and like to be able to become better communicators so that was this is my goal this is what I want to do in my life and that was also very a great moment when I realized that I found this answer I found this connection between all those ideas and all those sometimes even you probably disconnected services that I provided. The next step was to write a list. So as I said, it was tricky for me because I had all sorts of language services and sessions of different lengths and purposes. So I had to, again, book some time, sit down and write them all in a list. in the form of the list and then um thanks to another uh person that I was lucky to meet a business, like also a lady who had a business consulting, consultancy services.

So she helped me with creating a chart like this, like writing all my services on in a list and then asking myself, how much do I enjoy doing this? um let's say from one to ten okay on a scale from one to ten how much do i enjoy this do i enjoy teaching a 25 minute class in this like with this and that purpose uh so i had to sit down and rate them and on this side whether this um how much income like annual income does this service um does the service give to my business? So I also had to open my box and actually rate each and every service on this scale as well.

So that took some time, of course. But then it was totally worth it because... it became obvious that, you know, some services I enjoyed very much, but they were not very profitable.

Some of them were probably in the middle. And there were some that I both enjoyed, and they were also very profitable. So when I asked myself, what should I focus on in the next six months?

So she said, well, it's simple, just focus on those things. ones that you enjoy most of all and that are also most profitable um so when you you when you're have your own business you have to have this positive energy that drives your creativity and your creative creative um ideas so doing something that you hate will just kill that uh energy um and uh of course uh you choosing something that you like and at the same something that people like and people are ready to pay for is the best choice. So that sounds really obvious, but for me it was another turning point.

It was really that simple, but I never had thought about this myself without that guidance. Okay, so After all that, and again, it wasn't a matter of a couple of hours, it was a matter of a process, like talking to people, gathering, booking time to sit down and write things. After all that, and once I was sure what is it that I'm actually selling, after that stage...

I was ready to start building my content system. And the content system is actually supposed to promote the value of your services and products. And I must say that here as well, I had a mess.

And you have absolutely no idea what a mess it was. I had, again, a website that was beautiful, but I had no idea how to operate. so the information on it was completely outdated I had a Facebook profile and a Facebook page and a Facebook group um and so the Facebook profile was in like three languages and I and the the Facebook page had a very small following you I also had two blogs on different platforms for teachers.

I had a Twitter account that I used for storage. I was just storing some links that I liked. I had a LinkedIn account that I almost never used because I thought that LinkedIn is, I couldn't even understand what is, what is it that is happening on LinkedIn.

And I had, oh. yeah I've already mentioned that I had a Facebook page which was in English but its purpose was to sell English like language services for people who didn't speak English. So it was also useless. I also had it. That's very important.

I had a YouTube channel with less than 20 subscribers. So it was like really a mess, a lot of things. And I invested my time into it, but it didn't work at all.

So thanks to the whole prioritization process and the audit, the estimation of my values. all this that I've already said, and I've already told you about, thanks to all this, and to the community support from the business community support and guidance, I started rebuilding this whole system. And then I started writing mainly on Facebook in one language only.

So one day, a client approached me with a request to train their team. in English, it was a great, great offer, but there was a, there was a, but they said, well, look, send us your website. We need it just, you know, it's a formality.

We want you to, to train our team, but we actually need, you know, our CEO to confirm it. So they need to see your website. So I said, yeah, sure. But Then I realized that I cannot send them a link to my old website.

It was completely outdated. I needed a landing page that would present, you know, the services that I wanted to provide to them, the English training. And I didn't have one.

So despite having all those social media channels, I realized I had nothing to show to them. I only had two days. to send this landing page over to the company's approval. So I had to build this small website real quick. And that's how I found Tilda.

I just started asking on forums and Googling, you know, how can I quickly build my website? That's how I found Tilda. Thanks to a recommendation of one of the...

business community members. And so I sat down and I wrote a text and I just logged in to the platform and I realized that it was pretty intuitive for me. And I did it.

I built my first, my very first landing page that was completely owned and designed and written by me. um so I was very excited I sent it to the client the client approved and uh you know as a like long story short um I still teach and lead the book club for this company it's been over two years now um and it's a great it's just a one of the best um offers that I've ever had and you know I'm very happy to be doing what I'm doing with this group groups and with this company so so now I I was a proud owner of a page so what next I decided that actually now I can continue and do more I have the tools. So what do we do to build this system of posting and content creation in order to preserve the logics of our service and product? Because if we have a certain amount of services and products, we want to adjust the content that we write to these services and products. And we also want to save our time because content creation is very time consuming, especially if you're a solopreneur or if you have a very small team like Linguacom.

So we want it to be a system and we actually do not want it to look like this, hopefully. Okay, so for me... The solution was, and again, I want to emphasize this moment that this idea that actually it works for me. I'm not sure it's universal and I do not want to say that it will work for everyone or for every business.

Every business is different. But for me, the solution was making my personal website the center of all the other platforms. So I will try to explain.

Let's talk it through. it's um i i um create content um for for the website and only then i share it on other platforms so the my my website is this is the central time investment like i invest into creating Maybe I'll better go to the next slide. I create a blog article on my website that answers a certain response to the most common requests that I get from clients.

I share tips there and I create an article that answers certain questions and requests. And I do it just once. I can call it an evergreen content. And then this content is split into smaller posts, episodes, tweets, telegram posts, and it goes to all the other social media. So time-wise, it's a huge, huge time saver.

I just wanted to return back a little bit and talk a little bit about this dilemma between social media being the center and website being the center of your content system. So here are some reasons why it's a bit harder to organize your content on a social media platform compared to your website. The first...

The reason is that social media has limited customization. Social media platforms usually provide some options to customize the way your content looks. But a website definitely provides and allows you to change the way your content looks much, much more.

easier to customize your text to structureize. You can organize it exactly how you want it while social media restricts you to their predetermined layout and design options. So this can make it challenging to present your content in a way that aligns with your brand or preferred organizational style.

Number two is the algorithms, of course. Social media platforms have certain algorithms that determine what content is displayed and to whom it is shown. This means that your content's visibility can be influenced by factors that are absolutely out of your control, such as user engagement rates, platform-specific metrics, which we...

we have no control of. So, simply speaking, when you have this website, even if it's very simple, you can control how and when it is displayed to visitors. You can even send it directly to people who are interested in it. You can always invest some time into promoting it.

on, uh, like on Google. Um, there are other things I, I just really don't want to go into this, but it definitely is something that is controllable much more than, um, the, the, the social media platforms. Um, what, another thing is, um, content visibility. And this is something that for me was very important because, um, as I said, I deal with education, some educational matters like test preparation, English training.

So people ask me same questions or a lot of questions that repeat themselves. So if I write a post about this, this post quickly disappears after, you know, under other content that is posted by other users or that I post myself. So it's very difficult to find specific answers in the feed. It takes much more time, so people would never do it. They'll say, okay, we'll just click somewhere else.

So it makes it difficult to browse through for history. Some social media, of course, have search and filter functions, but having your own website, you can... use, you can just, you can create a certain categorization system, very simple one, and just archive and store your content according to the categories that you choose. And you can always directly refer your clients to those articles and posts that are relevant to them, instead of just, you know, making them waste time by browsing. the irrelevant content.

Okay, we also have to mention number four, dependence on platform policies. Of course, social media platforms change policies, they can suddenly change, suddenly decide to delete certain or make some content less prioritized, and it might change the whole, like the way your profile looks without you without you being very happy about it. So when you have your own platform, you can stop worrying about sudden policy changes. And finally, integration and scalability. So unlike a website on social media, you're limited as to how many integrations you can have with other tools.

Websites are much more flexible and you can actually integrate much more tools and services. into your website, you know, like an email marketing service, other third-party applications. I think it's, again, I'm not a huge expert on that, but for me, being able to connect and, you know, an email box to my website, it's just a very simple thing, but it's a very helpful thing.

And it helps keeping, you know, all your... branded materials in one place I think it's um it's definitely another um um point to um another point that uh means that having your own website is definitely recommended okay so I think I've spoken enough about how good it is so I wanted to address, we're approaching the end of my presentation, the last thing that I wanted to talk about today is strategies to navigate uncertainty in content planning. Because having even this system that I'm using, having this blog article that I invest more time into, and then sharing this content over a bunch of social media, even this. requires a strategy okay and um sometimes it's just hard to think of what to write about um let alone you know their major major minor distractions our life imposes on us sometimes you know you get sick or your kids sometimes there's there's something out there that distracts you and changes your routine there's you you know, it could be anything starting from pandemic to war or whatever it is.

And so Sometimes it's just an overflow of information. So what do you do? How do you tackle that?

How do you keep, you know, writing and keeping your content together? So again, I'm going to talk just about my own experience. And because I tried tons of ways to organize my system. And because I have a bunch of topics to write about. So the best system that I find, again, that works for me, a person has...

several ideas kept together under one umbrella of this language services and communication. It's a very simple system and it includes two things. On Tilda, I created categories that I write about. And this... includes exam tips for people who prepare for English exams, bookshelf where I write about recent books that I've read and I recommend books that you know that I like to others.

I write about creative writing. I write a little bit about educational technology. I have also a category that says thoughts.

It could be some more abstract things that I just write because it helps me communicate with values to my audience. So I created those categories for myself. So this is my archive when somebody needs to prepare for a test.

So I send them to this category if they're interested in book club or creative writing. So these are the two categories that they need, creative writing and book club, a bookshelf. And that's, that's, this is what I created on Tilda, very simply just added a new category and made a list.

And then I use paper, like a paper, just very simple paper, um, spreadsheets where I write, um, this. like there are four weeks in a month and I decide on which days I want to post. I usually invest into writing two, like two or three serious posts on the blog until a month, which is doable. I mean, it's much better than what I used to have, you know, not knowing what to write today. So I write two blog posts a month.

I really... I'll... I take the categories from here, from what I've defined on Tilda.

So for example, if I know that last month I wrote a lot about creative writing, so this month I'm going to probably write more about books or maybe about tests. So this is how I decide what to write about. And then I decide that small extracts from what I'm writing here will go to other social media platforms like Telegram, Facebook, LinkedIn, and I decide on which days I want to post it there. That's it. So this is how I tackle this.

This is much, it works much better for me than the system that I used to have before. So I guess, um, yeah, so I guess that's it. um let me share just maybe the last thoughts um the changes that small businesses go through in times of crisis like covid for example show that having this small plan or having your categories defined may be a great support and it's always a good idea of course in addition to what i've just shown to you to have probably you know a mix of you content types uh not just you know planning this evergreen content on the website but only also probably think about other things um and um using a content calendar that works for you for example for as i said for me the best thing is the pen and paper some people prefer other forms of like other formats of um you content planners, there's Airtable, there's Trello, whatever works for you.

And I think that it just shows you that this work is doable. When I look at my calendar, I see that I only have to think, like really deeply think of two posts a month. The other content is much easier for me to create because it's based on these two posts. And also, you know, you can leave...

some space for spontaneous posting it's always good when you're in the mood why not it's great to have this extra so sometimes you have some breaking news trending discussions so you can easily incorporate this into your content calendar and also what works for me is having this calendar always next to me like in my diary or on the wall. Regularly review it, adjust it. If something doesn't work for me, so it will probably not work and you can say to yourself, well this is probably too much for me, I should do less.

Or the other way around, maybe you'll see that you have more, you're capable of writing more, so that's also another great thing. And you can adjust your calendar accordingly. As I said, it's important to categorize your content. And I think it's important to say, and I haven't talked about this at all, is to use the analytics tool.

In Tilda, there's a very intuitive analytics tool. It just shows you how many people read a certain post, a certain page that you've created, and it helps. it helps you a lot to understand which content is more popular.

And the last point that I added here is expect the unexpected. It means that always have like a few ideas in stock to in case of emergency. If there's something, if you have like extra energy, so don't attempt to publish it immediately maybe store it in a separate folder once you have this um writer writer's blackout so you can always say okay i have this extra content in my folder and i'll publish it now instead of just um not posting anything so that's that's all that i wanted to share today about uh small business my small business you Tilda content. Thank you for listening.

And if you have any questions, you're welcome. Thank you. Thank you so much, Tanya. That was really insightful. And yeah, we were really excited to hear about like more about your project.

Also, so we have guys, if you have any questions to Tanya, please leave them down in the chat. And we have a couple of questions from Instagram. And yeah, so the first one, I think it also, it will be really, really great to hear to any like newcomers in the chat, because it's also from a new user on Tilda. So they write, I'm new to Tilda and I want to create a website.

Was it hard for you when you first started out and what tools would you recommend? to create a website? So I think this question just generally, it just covers a lot of, you know, a lot of thoughts, a lot of uncertainties that newbies have.

So coming from someone who is not tech savvy or who is not really, you know, who is not a web developer, what would you recommend to, you know, to our audience to do when they want to create a website? Well, again, from my experience, what actually worked for me and made, as I said, I had this deadline. I had I had this two days that I had to create my first page.

And it was just that set a deadline because you try to create something very specific for someone. for a specific client imagine this client if you don't have one so imagine him or her and just try to think what they would want to see on this page create one page And then I would recommend sending it to a few people that you know and let them ask questions or ask them whether they understood what is your service about. And ask them whether they have other questions. Write down their questions and add that information to the page. And that's your first page.

You can always make it better. You can always make it more. perfect or better looking.

For example, this last year, I completely redesigned the website. I asked a professional to do it because I'm not, I'm like, I'm not a web designer at all. But it's only after, you know, a couple of years of already having a working website that helped me with in so many ways. So I think, you know, try to tackle your perfectionism, just do one page and then do another page. and that's going to be that's my advice great thank you thank you also guys if you are new to tilda you can always use pre-designed templates they were created by a professional team of designers so you don't have to be a designer or web designer you don't have to know any code at all and still you can create a great starting like a landing page a good starting website for your project Okay, so we have a question from the chat from Tanya, and she asks how to combat the feeling that there are already thousands of products on the market.

So your thoughts on that. Oh, that's a great question. That's this.

That's a I think that it doesn't matter where you stand in your business. Like, are you a beginner or you're in the middle or probably or even have, you know. very well-developed businesses.

There's always tons of other businesses that do similar things out there. As I said in the beginning, for me, the most important thing was this, it probably sounds unrelated, but just sitting down and writing, what is it that I want to, like, what is it that I want to help people with? Like, what is it that I...

know that I want to help others with and assuming that this would be enough convincing because I think that understanding what value you're bringing to the world and what is it that you can make better this is good enough so and trust to just trust this feeling that you are doing Once you have this understanding, it will guide you further. This is what I'm trying to say. It will guide you towards the right people and towards the right clients and hopefully bring more success.

All right. Yeah, I agree. And also, I think you don't have to reach all of the people on the Internet.

And more and more people come online these days. So more and more people have actually the chance to have the internet because there are parts of the world that are not that well connected. So I think more and more people come online and you will definitely find your audience.

So yeah, go for it. And yeah, with Tilda, it's easier than ever before. So I have a question from myself. Personally.

So you're a teacher and also you're an entrepreneur. So do you think any teacher can create a business or does it really take a mind of entrepreneur to create your own project? What are your thoughts on that?

Well, I think that teachers are immensely creative. Most teachers, because this is a very creative profession. I don't think that... And... every teacher must have their own website, but every teacher for sure has, might have a creative project that they're working on or that they're working on with their students.

And I do think that actually with, you know, with the fact with Tilda, it's, it's, it's absolutely doable for every teacher to, you know, to launch a small website for, for this. creative project it doesn't have to be you know an independent business but There are some teachers who, you know, who look for some, who look for some more independence, who want to turn their creative project into a business. Like, for example, I know several teachers who created games, you know, during the process of interaction with their students, and they turn that later on a later stage into a game, like a... educational game business.

So it could be anything else or teacher may write a book about, you know, their insights and it also can turn into a business, you know, it can launch a website for a book. So yeah, to your question, I guess almost every teacher has something to share. And yeah, I think I encourage teachers to do that. why not yeah thanks and also i think it's again um i mentioned earlier that you don't have to reach all of the people like on the internet but also if you're a teacher and if you have the expertise that you can turn into a product i think you should really go for it and it really takes like tanya said it really takes uh the scheduling the planning and the determination kind of you self-discipline to just sit down and finish something. I think it's a great way to connect with new people who will appreciate your skill.

Okay. So I think we don't have any questions from the chat. And let me check.

Okay. Oh. And we are all also, like, it's been one hour since we have started our webinar.

So, yeah. Thank you, Tanya. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Thanks for having me. We were so thrilled to hear more about your project. Because once we discovered it, we were actually, like, super interested in it.

Because it really, it combines so much that you... always want to combine like you always you cannot really niche uh down and you have so many ideas and i think your product is really an example of how you can combine everything together blend it all seamlessly into a great learning platform okay guys thank you so much and um yeah please make sure you follow us on social media subscribe to our channel Follow us on Instagram. Don't forget about our product hunt launch on March 29th.

So yeah, and we will see you actually this week. And we're going to talk more about online course builder. So if you want to go into details, really go in depth and learn how to create. your own online course, how to structure it, how to add students, how to create a members area for your students, how to market your course, everything related to online education.

Please feel free to join us tomorrow. Okay, and I think that's it. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you, Tanya.

And yeah, we'll see you again. Bye bye. See you.

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