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Congressional Hearing on Citizenship and Eligibility

The next interpellator is Congressman Benny Amante. You are recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Hello, Cassie. Hi, Cassie and Alice. Hello. I'm going to eat a hopia. Alice, are you eating Hopia? No? You're Chinese, but you don't eat Hopia? I'm Filipino. But I'm Filipino and I eat Hopia. I'm Filipino. You have invoked the right of self-incrimination. I'm not eating hopia yet. Thank you. Let's talk here. There are no more legalities. You don't need an attorney. Let's talk. Tell me, are you rich? Is your family rich? I'm not sure if I'm rich. But you're not poor. Let's say you're middle class. You're middle class. Yes. When did your parents go to the Philippines? My father, I'm not sure when, Your Honor. But your mother? What my father told me, actually I grew up without a mother. So you don't know your mother? No. Oh, you only know your father. My father grew up with me. Who are the Filipinos among them? My father is Chinese and my mother is Filipino. So your mother is Filipino, is she natural born or naturalized Filipino? I know. Yes, Mr. Chair. Did you have a child here in the Philippines? Yes, I have a child here in the Philippines. But if your father is Chinese, your mother is not your wife's Filipino, you will decide when you get to be 18 years old if you are Filipino or Chinese, correct? I think so. So when you are 18 years old, you chose to be Filipino. Ever since po, alam ko po ako po isang Filipino po. So hindi ka nag-decide when you were 18 na ikaw ay gusto maging Filipino? Your Honor, ever since po, alam ko po ako po isang Filipino po. Taga, nabangkit mo, ang iyong tatay ay Chinese eh. Ang nanay mo Pilipina eh, diba? So tama bin Mr. Chair na kinakailangan ang isang pinanganak. of Banyaga and his mother is Filipino. Is it automatic that he is Filipino, Mr. Chair? I always ask your lawyer if it's automatic that you are Filipino, if your mother is Filipino. Yes, I was born naturally. My mother was born naturally. Your mother is Filipino? Yes, Your Honor. So you are not very rich. But you finished high school at Grace Christian High School? Your Honor, no. Where did you finish high school? Your Honor, I went to homeschool. Your teacher is Rubilin, right? Homeschool. Where did your teacher, Rubilin, come from? Where did he come from? What school? Teacher Rubilin, he didn't really come from school, but he's the one who taught me. You can say, Rubilin taught you that you don't know if he's really a teacher or not. Your Honor, I know that he is a teacher because he is the one who teaches me. I know that in homeschooling, the one who teaches you is also a teacher and there should be an official license from the school. Yes, sir. Your Honor, I was explained last time by the Senate. Mine was like a tutorial. Where did you come from? Teacher Rubilin, he didn't come from a school. He was the only one who taught me. He came from a school. It can't be that he didn't come from a school. He didn't come from a school, Your Honor. You don't know. Oh, wala po. Pero nagtapos ka ng high school. Ah, hindi po, Your Honor. Hindi ka nagtapos ng high school. Hindi ka rin nakapag-college. Hindi po. Ay, pareho pala kayo ni Cassandra. Si Cassandra, nag-graduate elementary. Hindi ka nag-high school, Cassandra, diba? Hindi ka nag-high school sa Pilipinas, diba? Cassandra. Hindi po ako nag-high school. Dito ka nag-elementary, diba? Kick out ka. You drop out of school. Can you imagine, you're facing the Senate. Yes. The Senators are angry at you. Yes. And you're facing here, in the Congress. We cannot be angry at you. I'm laughing at you. Yes. Earlier, you were laughing. I don't know what you're laughing at. What I'm saying is, you didn't finish high school, but you're good at speaking. And you're good at lying. Am I right, Ms. Alice? I'm not lying, Your Honor. You're not lying. Since you were a kid until now, you've been telling the truth. Since I was a kid, there were white lies. But today, I'm not lying to you, Your Honor. Even white lies, you're not making white lies now. I'm not lying to you. You're not angry, huh? Hindi po, Your Honor. Wala kang diploma ng high school. Wala po, Your Honor. Hindi ka nag-aral sa Grace. Ah, hindi po. Hindi ka nag-aral sa Grace Christian High School? Your Honor, regarding po sa Grace Christian High School, meron po silang na-alleged po sa akin na issue po sa citizenship po. I don't care kung anong allegations yan. Ang tinatanong kita, kung ikaw ay nag-aral sa Grace Christian High School? Your Honor, hindi po. Okay. Sa kayo nakatira nung nag-elementary ka, nag-high school ka? Your Honor, ever since we lived in a farm. Where? In a farm, in a tarlac. Farm, tarlac, in Bamban? Yes, Your Honor. Where you grew up? Yes, Your Honor. You have a lot of boats there? For kids, no. Because we are inside a compound. You don't go out to the farm? For biosecurity, no. Why? What do you mean by for security purposes? For biosecurity. What is biosecurity? Biosecurity is to avoid the disease of pigs. Avoid which? Avoid the disease of pigs. You're not... Ah, bio. How can pigs answer? Oh, he's explaining to me, Kong Dan Fernandez, what bio he's explaining to me. It means, Kong Dan Fernandez, he's a bit sympathetic to you. Yes. No, it's bio. So, you're not being exposed because you have pigs as your pet. Yes, that is the business. So you don't have a boat to go to the beach? Honor, kabat-am, bata po, wala po. Ah, wala. Nung malaki ka na at medyo dalaga ka na, nagkaroon ka na ng mga kaibigan? Ah, meron po. Supplier ng mais, supplier ng kabot. Supplier saan? Taga saan? Taga bamban din? Ah, meron pong taga bamban, meron din pong taga konsepsyon, taga kapas. Okay. Kung ikaw ay hindi nagkaroon ng barkado ng bata ka pa, paano ka naging mayo ng bamban? You know, when I became a congressman, I had a lot of class-rooms in my district. Yes, I had a lot of class-rooms in my district. I don't have many relatives, but my classmates, my friends, helped me. But you, I'm curious, you didn't graduate from college, right? You don't have much experience in Bamban, but you became mayor of Bamban. Why? Your Honor, the former mayor helped me. He gave me his line-up and his leaders. Ah, the former mayor helped you. Yes. What was the name of the former mayor? Mayor John Feliciano. Mayor Feliciano. Yes. Ma'am Alice, 2022, tumakbo ka na at umupo ka na bilang mayor. Of course, you confirmed that because that is a common knowledge. I'll be showing some pictures, ma'am. I hope you please enlighten us kung sino itong larawan na ipapakita ko sa'yo. I am referring to the picture on the right of the monitor. Yes. Alice Leal Go'o Bamban. Yes. Is this yours? Yes, Your Honor. And can you please enlighten me? What is written on this poster? Your Honor, I know that this is a newspaper from the Chinese community. They are congratulating my father. dad ka po kasi isang Chinese. And why are they congratulating your dad who is also a Chinese? Um, sila po yung ano po eh, since Chinese, tingin ko po since Chinese po sila, at, uh, nag-congratulate po sila through Chinese newspaper. I consulted some people who know how to read these Chinese characters. And according to them, the exact translation of these characters goes like this. Congratulations to the first Chinese mayor, Alice Leal Go'o of Bamban. Ma'am, I don't know if it's like that. Okay. Can we proceed to the next picture? Can you please enlighten us who is in this picture? Ma'am, for that question, I think I cannot answer. I invoke my right against self-incrimination since there is a pending case against me about the citizenship. About the citizenship. But would you agree with me if I would say, you look like the one in the picture. Ma'am, I will not confirm. Let us proceed to the third picture. The third picture is your passport from the Republic of China. Do you confirm this? Ma'am, I'm not confirming it. I have eight pending cases on the court. I invoke my right against self-incrimination. Nonetheless, Mr. Chair, I wish to manifest that the third picture is the picture of the passport of Alice Guo issued by Chinese government. where the name of her mother, Lin Wenyi, is indicated, and she is described as the dependent of a holder of a special investor resident visa. The mother is even described as from Fujian province. Yes, and I wish to go back to the first picture. Ms. Alice Go'o was described also as from Fujian province, and I understand that Ms. Alice Go'o acknowledged only the first slide and refused to identify the second and the third slide. Nonetheless, Mr. Chair, I wish to manifest that these documents are evidence to show that indeed the nationality of Ms. Goh is Chinese. Nonetheless, Mr. Chair, in order to realize her intention, run to a public position, bring growth and prosperity to the municipality of Bamban, including the people who live there at, Ms. Alice Goh allowed, if not she's the one who purposely caused the same, the late registration of his birth, and even the application of her Philippine passport. I understand, Mr. Chair, that the right to run to a public office is a right which is exclusive to Filipino citizens. And I wish to manifest as well that this should be dealt with by law because... This is something which open the country to issues of national security and interest, Mr. Chair.