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Human Potential and Society

Is there something inside of us that is so powerful, that is so beautiful, that is so ancient, that is so precious, that there are organizations in the world today, and there always have been societies in the past that will go to any length to shield us from that part of ourselves because that's where we find our power. Wow. A five-time New York Times bestselling author, Greg is one of the world's leading spiritual teachers, Greg Braden. Greg Braden, my friends, this man is utterly there is a concerted movement to veil us from our own divinity because when we are no longer connected with our divinity, we are more vulnerable to fear. The cells of our bodies literally are antenna that tune us to an energetic place in a field that underlies all existence that we now know, science confirmed it in the year 2012. Comes down to love. Do we love ourselves enough to accept the gift of our humanness and the responsibility that comes with being a human and expressing our divinity? What would be the practical steps to go from a past of suffering or sadness into peace, freedom, and financial and emotional abundance in their life? That is a really good question. And my friend, I'm so excited about this episode with Greg Braden because we are to talk about why your body is an advanced soft technology with capabilities beyond what modern science can replicate and how trauma creates chemical imprints in your body and the exact techniques to release them physically and emotionally to create your ultimate human potential. This is going to be a big one. If this is your first time here, please like this video, leave a comment on your biggest takeaway and click the subscription button right now to subscribe so you can stay notified on all the great episodes we have here on the School of Greatness. So, click that subscription button right now. And also make sure to get a copy of my brand new book, Make Money Easy, if you're looking to create more financial freedom in your life. The link will be below in the description as well. Without further ado, let's jump in. Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. very excited about our guest and the conversation we're about to have. We have the fivetime New York Times bestselling author Greg Braden in the house who's also an amazing pioneer in emerging paradigm bridging science and human potential. And there's so many topics that I want to dive into, but there's a quote that you have that I want to start with. And the quote is that you've said by the year 2030 we will either have awakened to the truth of our untapped human potential or we will be locked into a society of hybrid humans that is engineered away from our powers of creativity, emotion, empathy and intuition. And my first question for you is what is our true untapped human potential? What is it that we haven't even had access to that ancient humans had access to? You can start with the easy questions first. Yeah, the easy question. What is that untapped human potential that we have no clue how to tap into that the ancients knew how to and how can we start tapping into it? There's an emerging philosophy in the scientific community right now. I think that will help to answer that question. This completely unscripted. I didn't I don't know where we're going. I'm going follow your lead on this. So I'm going to begin by sharing that philosophy and it it begins with a statement that simply says that consciousness informs itself through its creations. And we break that down. What it means is the things that we build in the world around us. Everything from the books that we write and the art, the sculpture, the dance, certainly the music uh are entertainment in some respects. and beyond that that they are reminding us, they're telling us something about ourselves that we are asking ourselves to either remember or perhaps learn for the very first time. And if this is true, Lewis, it applies to technology as well. I'm I'm a scientist by degree, systems thinker. uh worked during the Cold War years and in some of the most advanced technologies for example on the SDI Star Wars defense initiative advanced lasers communication radar systems and I've seen and deeply respect this technology and I'm going to say at that time and even to this moment I have yet to see any technology built in the world around us that does not mimic what we already do in the cells and the systems of our body and in many cases we meet and exceed the capacities we do it better. Really? So the answer to your question about what is it that we're about to give away? Our humanness is under attack right now. We are the product of multiple generations where to be human. The idea of our humanness has been denigrated. It has been degraded. We are teaching our young people in school right now. Young people are being taught that carbon-based life in general and humans specifically are flawed. Among our flaws, emotion uh because emotion clouds sometimes our logic and our ability to think clearly. Our human experiences of empathy, sympathy, compassion, the ability to self-regulate our own biology. These are seen as flaws. And for young people, if there are flaws, it means we need a savior. And the savior is being touted as technology. AI, computer chips, chemicals in the blood, RFID chips under the skin, sensors in the body, nanobots. So the the idea this 2030, this was um reflecting a statement by Ray Kerszswe. Ray Kerszwhile, I think some of our viewers know, he's he's an author, he's a visionary, he's a futurist, he is heading up AI research at Google right now. And he made two statements that I think are uh are relevant to this conversation. And first he said by the year 2030 which is only 5 years from now and we're we're just about the year 2025. He said by the year 2030 when we talk to someone on the street we will no longer be talking to a pure human. We will be talking to someone who has either embraced or been mandated to have some kind of technology accepted in into their bodies. So by 2030 we will be speaking to human hybrids. by the year 2045 uh he says we will have achieved what he just wrote his most recent book about something called the singularity. The singularity is essentially the internet of all things where we have become a a digital representation of ourselves in this internet of all things along with the world around us. All of our natural resources, every form of wildlife, all the food we eat, the energy we consume, everything will be uh in this massive database run by artificial intelligence that is already being built. It's already underway. So, I wrote a book called Pure Human. And and I wrote this book to advocate for our our humanness to to celebrate and maybe maybe awaken a deeper sense of pride for what it means to be human and a deeper appreciation for our humanness. So, it's a long answer to a short question. I want to kind of lay that out as as we start this conversation. Yeah. And I think a lot of people that are watching or listening, they they want to figure out how to go from a place in their life that they're unhappy or unfulfilled with. Sure. To actualizing their potential, their dreams, their desires, but they don't know how to go from where they are currently to manifesting or creating that reality, that untapped reality in the future. And they don't know how to draw it to themselves faster. How do I bring this idea into the world and make it happen? I'm with those people. you know, just off camera just now, we just had a conversation. I'm I don't talk about a lot um because it's not often relevant and I'm I'm not ashamed to share. I'm I'm the product of u of a very dysfunctional abusive alcoholic family and I was born 1950s and the idea of uh abuse and addiction and counseling and therapy were very different in the 50s and 60s than they are was not accepted then as much. Right. Well, uh, my looked down upon it. It was, uh, as there was a stigma. Something's wrong with you if you need that. There was a stigma attached to it. And to, to complicate even more, I was born in a rural community in in northern Missouri, which is for our international viewers, it's right in the middle of this big, beautiful country we live in. So, I um I was raised in an environment where the abuser will typically uh belittle and criticize those around them to elevate their sense of of worth. And fortunately, I was born with a very strong soul compass. I didn't believe what I was being told. I have a young I have a younger brother, four years younger, same household, same experience, you know, listening to the same things and and he's a good man and I love my younger brother and we're like night and day. If you were in this room, we don't look alike. We certainly don't think alike. Wow. And unfortunately, he believed everything that he heard and and has chosen to be defined in his life by that criticism. And I I can't say consciously when I made the decision, but I remember thinking I I will not be defined by my father's idea of who I am because I was blessed as again with with a strong soul soul compass. I'm not saying I did it all right. You know, for me in the in the 50s and 60s, music was my my outlet. And uh I began playing guitar at 8. Play it to this day. I'm a musician when I'm not doing what I'm doing right now. And uh I I left our home at the age of 14, which now I think is probably illegal, but I I moved in with my rock band. And uh and during that time, the the drugs were abundant. And I watched beautiful, talented men and women. We had a female vocalist. I saw their lives destroyed in a matter of months through the chemicals that they put into their bodies. And you know, Lewis, I I didn't know then obviously what I know now, but I always had a sense that there's something about us that is so rare and so beautiful that we need to honor and and respect this gift of the body. And I had a sense I would need this body for something later in life. And my my friends didn't think that way. So, it was hard to have these conversations. Sure. But I was always looking to see what it is within me. How can I be the best version of myself? How can I serve? How can I serve this world? And I leave this world. I don't know how long I'm here. We we never do. I feel good. And I I think I'm here for a while. But the day that I leave, when I look back, I want to know that I left no stone unturned and that I gave to and loved this world to the best of my ability, knowing what I know. And I do. I love this world and the people of this world. We're going through a tough time right now, man. It's a tough time. It's not just America. It's everybody in the world. And what I want our viewers to know is it's not going to last forever. And and it's not random. It's not spontaneous. There's a structure. We are moving rapidly toward the close of a cycle. And what's that cycle? There are are cycles within cycles. There are cosmological cycles that shift our planet. There are geologic cycles that I studied as a degree geologist. There are financial cycles. There are economic cycles. There are conflict and war cycles. And many people don't know that the conflict and war are actually driven um by natural rhythms. They're the magnetic fields of the sun influence the earth. They influence our heart rate variability. They influence our sleep patterns. They influence uh blood pressure. All those things. So, they're all converging now. uh and they appear to be converging around the year 2030. Really? Why is that? Well, this is uh okay, this is I don't know how deep you want to go. Go as deep as you want. So to have that conversation uh we need to to tread on territory that many of uh my peers are not comfortable talking about. And uh and I'm happy to do that and I want to do it in a a really good and a responsible way. The year 2030, for example, the United Nations has identified 2030 as the year they want to remake society and remake the world through what are called the 17 sustainable development goals. The World Economic Forum has identified 2030 as the target date for for their vision. Their vision of what they want the world to look like. What is that vision for the World Economic Forum versus the UN? It's the same vision. This is this is a a very concerning relationship. So now we're covering a lot of ground. Let's just back up. WF World Economic Forum, independent non-elected individuals. They started meeting in 1971. Davos, Switzerland. We all hear about the meetings every year that you know for a week you get little tidbits. Billionaires. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get little little Well, they're CEOs of corporations. They're politicians. They're kings. They're queens. They're leaders of nations uh in many in many cases. and they've always met to have, you know, their conversations about what they feel what these elites feel that our our lives and our world should look like and they have every right to do that. No problem until 2019. Now the United Nations has had uh a series of programs beginning uh they started then there was a UN SDG uh or the sustainable development goals SDG for the year 2000 their 15-year plan that expired in 15 and now they're looking another 15 years which expires in 2030. They put together 17 sustainable development goals that on the outside Lewis are beautiful goals. And when you look at these, if you go to the computer and go to the website, they are a list of 17 things. Who wouldn't want these in the world? What are a couple of them that for Yeah. For example, um not all 17, but food. Yeah. U food security. Who doesn't want food security? Uh global health for families, global health for children. Who doesn't want those things? Now you read the fine print of how they plan to achieve those goals and it is horrendous. It is it is a remaking of uh of social structure of family and society. Social engineering to a degree we've never seen in our world before and leading to a world of centralized power and control. So let me I'll just give you an example. Food security. Everybody wants food security. Uh, I'm down with that, you know, 100%. Now, you read the fine print, you would think they would want to help small agrarian families in rural areas throughout the world. Their idea of food security is to pump money into the big pharma uh, and the big agriculture, corporate farms, GMO uh, seeds, GMO insects to to take care of these things. And what's happening is the little farmers are being forced out out of business in the the rural areas, not just of America. This is happening all all over the world. And we are the prize, Lewis. This is why I want to say this our viewers to know. I want people to have a deeper appreciation and and be proud of our humanness because it's through our humanness that we have access to something that no other form of life has. And that is I'll I'll use the word and then I'll define it and then we can have a conversation about the word is is human divinity. For many people divinity is linked with religion. And I can see why. There are schools you know of divinity that have been that have uh been built to to make that association. But the contemporary definition of divinity has nothing to do with religion. It it literally reads divinity is the ability to transcend perceived limitations. Transcend means to become more than perceived. I love this. They may not even be real. We may be living limits in our lives. And as a 14-year-old boy from a dysfunctional alcoholic family, I was told what my limits as a man, as a human, would be. And this is where I began to push against those limits and test those limits. Now, I didn't know then obviously what I know now, but the ability to to transcend the limits that we've been indoctrinated through family, culture, society, science, uh, medicine have all led us to believe we've got limits. And here's the thing, new discoveries are blowing the doors off every one of those limits. Consciousness informs itself through its creations. The technology that we're building in the world around us is reminding us that we are that technology. That within us, we have the capabilities as what we now call soft technology, not computer chips and chemicals in the blood and wires under the skin. We're more than that. We're human. We're neurons and we're DNA and we're cell membranes. And we have the ability to self-regulate this soft technology in a way that no other form of life has. And here's the beauty, and this is every every guest you've ever had is hitting on one facet of of this technology. When I was in the industry, what I learned is the more complex a system is, the simpler the user interface. You probably seen that. I mean, pick up a cell phone, you you you touch the screen and man, you could pay your bills and talk to your friends and you never even you never typed a letter. That's very sophisticated. Push a button and I can be on a video call from you from around the world in a second. Exactly. Exactly. So, our user interface is like that and it is the subject of our most ancient and cherished spiritual traditions. Thoughts, feelings, emotions, breath, focus, nutrient, and movement. That's our user interface. When we know how to bring those together in the right in just the right way, we are awakening the potential of a soft technology that was given to no other form of life. And it's it's a very different way of thinking. So divinity is we're covering a lot of ground here. Divinity is the essence of our humanness. Divinity is the part of us that's timeless. It's ageless. It's where our love begins. That's where our sympathy, empathy, compassion, forgiveness, understanding. It's where our healing begins is our divinity. So there is a concerted movement now to veil us from our own divinity, to steal that power from us. Because when we are no longer connected with our divinity, we are more vulnerable to fear, more vulnerable to the agendas and the ideas of others. and more willing to accept other people's views of what our lives and what our world should look like. You didn't accept your parents' views of you. I didn't I didn't reject them. I just didn't accept them. It wasn't safe in my family to reject anything. If you've been around alcoholism, that's very unpredictable. You know, your father comes home and you never know which father you're going to get. You never know how how your conversation is going to be heard or responded to. So, you're in survival mode a lot. You are in survival. Can I just do a little a little side journey on that just to show how deep that goes? I I I lost my mom during CO. I wasn't ready for it and and it surprised me because I'm I'm an adult and I'm 70 and I knew that I was going to lose her at some point. But when you're in a dysfunctional family, an alcoholic family like that, at least in our case, my mom is always my protector. And there was a part of me uh not the grown adult Greg, but there was a part of my psychology when my mom passed that realized that my protector in this world was gone. Wow. And I ended up I was twice in the hospital with heart issues. Really? That that were not heart issues. They kept saying, "Mr. Brain, psychological issues." Well, they call him somatic now, which is was very kind. But it was funny. They I mean, they went through all the tests and they said, "Mr. Braden, you you're really really healthy." I said, "There's nothing wrong with your heart." And I said, "Well, what am I feeling?" And they said, "The somatic what?" This is the doctor. He would come in and say, "There's nothing wrong with you. I don't know why you're here in this in this hospital bed." I was in the ER. He said, "I don't know why you're here in the ER." And then he'd left. A nurse came in. The first thing she did, she looked at me, Louisis, and she said, "What's happening in your life?" And I started to say the words, "I just lost my mom." And I couldn't even get those words out. And I was just so I wasn't even crying. It was like gasping so and she said, "You're dealing with unresolved grief." And I said, "Okay, yeah, I know. No surprise there." She said grief unre not grief isn't bad but the unresolved grief can actually have a physical influence on the little muscles in the chest around the heart and if you don't know any better you think and it's good to get it checked out she said you think you're having a an episode a heart episode she says unresolved grief I went to a grief counselor and went away never came back how does someone unresolve their grief through grief counseling redefining and it's different for everyone. For me, I had to find a sense of safety knowing that my protector was no longer in the world. And I say that because I know I'm not the only one. Other people have that experience. But that's that's how deep and how lasting those kinds of of experiences, you know, go in our lives. The ability to resolve grief is a facet of human divinity. If someone is experiencing symptoms, whether it be heart palpitations or they they don't know if it's grief or not, they're feeling anxiety, maybe panic attacks, maybe all that, ADHD, maybe, you know, just depressive thoughts, things like that. What happens when someone who is experiencing some type of mental or emotional uh altercation in their in their body? What happens when someone decides to go the medical route versus the healing somatic route? Well, I'm gonna answer it in two ways. And this is not separate from this conversation we're having about human divinity. And I'm going to tie back into what we're now exploring. I just want to give context and structure here. We're exploring getting into the nitty-gritty of the power of human divinity and why we want it and what happens if we give it away. If we give our humanness away, we no longer have the abilities that I'm I'm going to share right now. So, this is it's it's part of the conversation. First of all, when when someone feels that, it's always good to get it checked out because you don't know. You can't you cannot determine and unless it's happened in the past and you recognize this is exactly what happened in the past, you really can't. It's terrifying. It's scary. It it is. It is. And um fortunately we live in a city where we had uh it's a small Santa Fe, New Mexico. It's not a big 80,000 people. You know, it's not a big community, but we had and I had good good medical care. Um to answer the question, we have to understand what's really happening. every emotion that we've ever had in our lives from the moment even before we emerged into the world through the birth canal while we're still in the womb. Every emotion that we're having has a chemical equivalent that is called Candace Per was the first Harvard trained medical physician that linked emotion in chemicals in the body and in a scientific way. Wow. I had the honor of knowing her before she passed in 2013. uh she wrote a book called Molecules of Emotion. I'm sure a lot of your viewers are familiar with that. And she identified these chemicals are called neuropeptides. Neuropeptides typically will be created by the emotion and they metabolize through the body. No big deal. Unless we're having an emotion that we can't resolve, then the neuropeptides, our bodies are so smart, the neuropeptides will stay in the body. The body will actually store the neuropeptides and this is where it gets really interesting in the organs, tissues and glands that we associate with our trauma. And everyone has trauma and everyone's trauma, your trauma, you might have a trauma and I'd look at and say, "What's the big deal?" Because my filters interpret it differently. Or I would have a trauma and and you would look at and say, "Come on, Greg." You know, suck it up and get over it because your filters are different. But we all have trauma and it's personalized. And those neuropeptides will stay with us 10 minutes or 70 years. Wow. until we have the tools to resolve the the the trauma. Sometimes they'll give you a little nudge to let you know they're still there. It might be a little irritation, might be a rash in the body or inflammation or swelling and and we will take a pill or put on a cream to to make the symptom go away, but that neuropeptide is still there. And then they'll say, "Well, maybe you need a little bit more a little bit more uh of a nudge." And then we start developing symptoms of things that we call illness and disease. But this is this is so fascinating to me because the science is showing us rarely do our bodies break. Rarely do we have illness and disease in the way we think we have it. What we are experiencing is our body in the presence of the conditions, the epigenetic conditions that we've given it to work with. It can be nutrition, it can be environment. And the most powerful environment is the emotional environment. N over 90% is the emotional environment. So rather than saying our bodies are broken which ruins the trust that we have in our bodies, it's useful to say what what am I giving my body to work with? What what is the environment the emotion and sometimes emotional environment is a subconscious in my case it was subconscious. I had a subconscious fear uh of not being safe because I wasn't when I was a child. Even though you were in your late60s at that point and you're an adult and you could logically say, "Well, I have resources. I have protection. I have a home. I have money. I have safety." But the the little boy in you didn't feel safe. It's exact. Well, and it makes sense because the first seven years average first seven years of a human life, we are in an altered state of consciousness. It's actually called a hypnogogic state is the the term that psychologists use where we have very few if any filters. We are absorbing behavior patterns from our caregivers. This is nature's way of preparing us for life. Nature believes that we're going to be in the same environment that our parents are. So we learn from our parents how to deal with conflict and how to treat people that you like and how to treat people you don't like. And we mimic them. We we do we consciously and subconscious. Those are consciously those are the programs up until the age of of seven. The Jesuits knew this. Maybe you've had other speakers talk about this. They they would say give us your sons because it was a male organization. Give us your sons until the age of seven and they'll be ours forever. Wow. Wow. So what they meant give it give them to us for the first seven years. They can go home to you but they won't want to because they will be indoctrinated into the patterns of the Jesuits and their home life will no longer make sense. That that's an example of how powerful those first seven years of life are. It's the programming, right? It's the programming. So So the neuropeptides can stay in the body uh as long as as they need to. And there are techniques, breath work techniques, cartbrain coherence. I know my brother Joe Despensza taught, he and I have taught together and we use these techniques. Uh there are all kinds of of body EFT and you know body memory therapy and that's a whole conversation. But there are a lot of ways to to resolve that. And it's fascinating to me because when we do resolve them through a breath work session, for example, those neuropeptides are made of chemicals in the body and elements, minerals, and you'll actually begin to taste metallic taste in your mouth or your urine. Your urine will smell funny because it's not the typical urine. It's these are chemicals and or your tears or your perspiration will taste different and it will smell different. You'll you'll sweat and you'll smell different when you're going through this because now those neuropeptides are metabolizing through the body through body secretions, processing, body secretions. So, it's tears, perspiration, saliva, sexual fluids, feces, all of those things is how we release. Wow. Oh, isn't that fascinating? This goes uh this goes back to the power human divinity is the part of us that's timeless. It's ageless. It's all knowing. It is the part of us where our healing begins. And what the science is showing is the divinity doesn't live. Those patterns don't live in our bodies. This is where it gets really, really interesting. It was already interesting. Now it's going to get really, really interesting. They don't live in the cells of our bodies. The cells of our bodies, the neurons, DNA, and the cell membranes literally are antenna that tune us to an energetic place in a field that underlies all existence that we now know, science confirmed it in the year 2012. That the CERN superconducting super collider, they actually announced it on July 4th in America, 4th of July 2012, that that there is a field that underlies all existence. um 2022 the Nobel Prize in peace uh and no in physics the Nobel Prize in physics was given to the physicist that confirmed that in this field everything's connected entanglement really is what it's called what is this field that we're living in it's an energetic it's an energetic field and and we are we are that field every human the average human is about 50 trillion cells in the body approximately give or take you've got more cells than I do because you're taller than I Oh wow. And every one of those 50 trillion cells has about 100 trillion atoms. And every one of those atoms is doing this. It's emerging from that field and collapsing into that field every nancond of the day. Like right this nancond and as it emerges from the field, it is building our bodies to fit the template that we hold in our consciousness. That's crazy. Of of who we are. And this is why healing is possible. This is why spontaneous healing is possible. When we change the way we think and the way we feel, we change that blueprint. We change the template and and that information will now fill in a new and healthier blueprint. And this is all very well documented. I mean, it's the science knows the bits and pieces. Science is reluctant to bring them together because it tells a story that many scientists are reluctant to embrace. What's that? The story is that we are not what we've been told. We're more than we've been led to believe. Uh, and that is the essence of why I've written this book. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm going to answer that question for you right now. What I'm going to say is this, Lewis. There's something inside of us, we humans, that is so powerful. It is so beautiful. It is so ancient. It is so precious that there are organizations in the world today and there always have been societies in the past that will go to any length to shield us from that part of ourselves because that's where we find our power. Yeah. When we are in our power, we are less vulnerable to fear. And fear, I think you'll agree, is probably the greatest commodity in a world that is moving toward authoritarian, author, the the ability to create authority and centralize that authority in the world. That is our divinity. This is why we are the prize. We are literally the prize. And I want to make this conversation relevant to our our viewers because so many people they write to us and we see the comments and say, "Okay, you know, these conversations are cool. What's it have to do with the world?" And what's that have to do with my life right now? Yeah. That the world out there. So here's here's what it has to do with the world that we're living in. That part of us that is so beautiful, powerful, ancient, precious, is the reason for everything we're seeing happening in the world. Those powers that be will stop at nothing to distract us and keep us diverted. Nations will go to war with nations. Economic systems will be collapsed. Pandemics will be unleashed. Climate will be engineered. Nations will rise and fall. All in an effort to distract us. Wow. Because we are are the prize. The human body is the prize because our humanness is the link to our divinity. This is why I began talking about an ancient battle. There is an ancient battle between good and evil. And evil means different things to different people. But the ultimate evil is to shield a human from their divinity. When we are kept from our divine nature, our ability to love fearlessly, to forgive, to heal, to imagine, to innovate, to create, that is a form of evil. And that's a form that is playing out right now. And this 2030 window of time uh is the window of time when it is proposed that our humanness, our biology be replaced. Wow. with technology, with AI, with computer chips, chemicals in the blood that mimic the systems that we do, with synthetics, computer chips in the brain linking us to the to the computers now. And it's a very different way of thinking now. I'm a systems thinker. So, I look at the big picture so that I understand where the nancond of my life fits into that big picture and then I let it go. Dude, we don't have to know any of this, but I want people to know that what we're seeing in it's not a crazy world. It's insane. It's not crazy. There is a a method. There's a system. There's a process. And it won't last forever. It's this little window of time where you're seeing the powers that be jockey for position. And our humanness is a problem. Wow. Because we are such powerful beings. And nobody's telling our kids that. Our kids are being told that they're flawed forms of life, that they need something outside of themselves to be the best version of themselves and to compete in business and compete in the world. So, our kids are willing to give themselves away to virtual reality, to computer chips. I mean, I had some young people in one of my courses uh earlier. It was in the summer and we were talking about Neurolink, the chip that FDA just approved uh from Elon Musk. This is his company. And it allows a human without any wires at all to communicate directly with the hard drive on their computer. And so here's these young kids in in the room and they're saying, "This is cool." They're saying, "Mr. Braden," and I said, "No, please, Gray." Okay. And I said, "Okay, Greg." I said, "I'm only 70. I'm not a Mr. Brady yet." They said, "Are you telling me that all I have to do is put a computer chip in my brain and I can play Grand Theft Auto with no wires? No. I can think, no controls, sweet." Or there's some other words they use, but but sweet was was a lot of it because they don't realize this the biological imperative. There there is a an adage in biology that says use it or lose it. Perfect example, when I was back in the 50s and 60s, I was taught, and you probably were when you were young as well, that we were born with a fixed number of neurons in the human brain. And so this was leverage in college. You know, when you're in college, every beer you drink, you're going to lose some neurons. So, you better not drink too many beers. You know, this is what they're saying. But now we know up until the last breath the uh the the hippocampus in the human brain is creating new neurons. But there's a catch. Every time those neurons are created, they must be engaged in a meaningful way within about seven days or they will atrophy and die. So that is true for all the systems in the body. We are a biological system that works on demand. If we don't use our systems, then they begin to atrophy. So, you begin to replace the human brain with computer chips. Or here's here's a study, an actual study that was done. Young kids, three, four, five years old, get up in the morning, they eat their bowl of Cheerios or whatever it is. Their parents sit them on the floor with an AI visor and they leave them there for a few hours. And here's what's happening in that AI world. They're seeing stuff they would never see in their backyard with their friends. Yeah. They're hearing sounds. They're seeing images, colors. And what is happen this has gone on long enough now that psychologists are able to do the studies. Those young people are their physical stature is demented. Their brain size is stunted. Their cognitive development is stunted. Their visual cortex is enlarged because look at what they're doing. They are simply watching rather than engaging in creating. When you and I were kids, I mean, we go out, we take a blanket off of there in the backyard. Yeah. We we make a tent and make a fort and all of a sudden we've got a fort and a and we're using our imagination. They're not doing they're just watching it all done for them. And so the psychology magazines are actually showing and that can it can all be reversed through epigenetics so that they're not lost, but it's showing that it's not harmless. There is an impact. There is an effect. And it's another example when our biology is replaced with technology. The gift of our humanness begins to atrophy in many different ways in one generation. Next generation comes along through epigenetics. Now it's passed down and the body says, "Oh, you know, we don't we don't do those functions anymore. We used to but it's a vestage of our past because now we've got a chemical to create the immunity in our bodies for example and that's something that's actually proposed you know right now right now policies are being written laws are being enacted to implement many of these technologies in our bodies and that the term there's a general term for this Lewis it's called transhumanism trans simply means beyond and human is is our biology so it's beyond ond our biology. And I did an interview recently and someone asked, they said, "Well, isn't this a part of our natural evolution? It's not not a part of our natural biological evolution." It is a form of a technological evolution. That's not good for us. It's not good for us humans because we lose the very essence of what it is that we cherish in our human in our humanity. We lose our ability to love, forgive, sympathy, empathy, compassion. We lose the ability to discern rather than judge. We're taught to judge, but the healing comes from our ability to discern. Wow. We lose all of those things when we begin to give our our humanness away. So there we've just covered a whole lot of ground. I'm going to come back. There's a concerted effort right now in these next few years to diminish the power of our humanness. One of the ways that's being accomplished is by us either being encouraged or mandated. Some of the the policies will be mandates coming from the UN through our United States Congress. They're they're going the legal route to accept technology into our bodies to replace our humanness. When we do that, we relinquish that precious, ancient, and sacred gift that we were given when the first of our kind stepped onto this planet 200,000 years ago. You know, we've only been here 10,000 generations. Wow. Two 200,000 years. Not that long. And we were given these abilities given to no other form of life. And now we're being taught and indoctrinated to believe that we are flawed, powerless victims of a world that we have no control over and that we need something outside of us. So this the flip side of this now the new science and this is exciting is showing us wow that we are literally a highly advanced technologically sophisticated soft technology neurons. One of the the reasons that science is beginning to think of us that maybe some of your guests have have talked about this is that we've been conditioned to think of our biology as this soft gooey sticky wet stuff you know inside the cells and that is one way of thinking of us but now scientists are looking us from a perspective of information technology these are IT perspectives and so the discoveries they're not showing up in biology ology books they're showing up in engineering journals like ILE E you know and these these engineering who's reading those I mean my community is not reading sure but let me just give you an example there was uh the journal of advanced computing technology which I don't read and my most of my colleagues don't as well unless we're researching a book or something came out uh with an an article and it showed that human DNA is literally a fractal antenna is the term that they use. So what's that mean? It we think of antennas being tuned to something very specific like a specific TV station or radio station or you know CB station or whatever. Fractal antenna are receiving multiple signals from a broad spectrum of bandwidth simultaneously. We're we're pulling in information from the world around us all the time across this broad spectrum. and that we're transducing it into meaningful signals in in our bodies. That's a very different way of of thinking of the human body. So I'll just run through this really quick. What the science is showing 50 trillion cells in the body. Every cell is a miniature a microcircuit. It's a gated circuit is what engineers call. It's got input output. All the functions within our cells, they function as transistors, as resistors, as capacitors that are massaging that that information. Every cell has a voltage of about 07 volts. Say, well, that's not very much, but you do the math. 50 trillion times 07 is over three billion, no over three trillion volts of 3.5 trillion volts of electrical potential, which is in our body in our bodies. Now, we don't actualize it all the time, but what if you could harness that for your own healing or to optimize uh optimize cognition, optimize whatever it is we're going to do in our lives. But doesn't stop there because we're we're receiving photons of information. We're transmitting photons of information. We already said the DNA in our bodies, our DNA stores information. And let let me just use the terminology and see if you've heard this before. The DNA in our bodies stores every successful genetic transaction in our species in a way that's transparent. It is immutable and it's secure. And if that sounds familiar, it should because that is the basis for what is the new financial system of the world, the decentralized financial system we call blockchain technology. Blockchain technology mimics the way information is stored in the DNA of our body. Really? So once again, I'm saying all this that we build around us is is mirroring what we already do in our bodies. They compared a human brain to a microprocessor, the Sulkq Institute in La Hoya is where this actually I'm doing this from memory. Sulkq Institute in La Hoya. And the way they did it for our our techie engineers out there is they equated the synapse and the the human brain between neurons to the transistors on a chip. And interestingly, the numbers are very similar on a modern microprocessor. It's about the same number of of synapses we have in the brain. Then they did the studies and what they found is the human brain is a hundfold faster uh than the processor. Here's here's the beauty of of where this goes. All of those computer chips, man, they're fast. They're accurate, hands down. But are they scalable? They can only scale as far as the limit of the physics of the stuff they're made of allow. So, if it's a silicon chip, the atoms are in predetermined geometric patterns that make silicon and information can only move so so fast across those. Interesting. So fast, yes. Efficient, yes. Scalable, not so much. Now, human neurons, every time they push a human neuron to the edge of the limit that has been accepted in the textbooks, we do what humans do. The neurons morph and they adapt and open up an entire new vista of processing capability. And we do this again and again and again. What is the upper limit of a human neuron? We don't know. We may be infinite when it comes to scalability. That's soft technology. And it goes on from there. I'm just giving a couple of of examples. I know I'm covering a lot of ground. Can I say can I share one one more? Go ahead. This is really exciting. And then we'll we'll pull this together. Uh there was an experiment that was done in 2022. And some of our viewers may be old enough to remember the computer game that I'm going to reference. 1972 a game called Pong. P NG was released today. It looks primitive. It is essentially a tennis game, a bad mitten game. Two little blocks going up in one ball and one ball and it's going like this. People were fascinated when that, you know, when that game first came out. So, here's what what happened. Scientists took human neurons independent from the body and put them into a petri dish. So, they're not even attached to a human. And they have a special chip where the little dendrites, little little tentacles if you will, from the neuron will fit into a port uh on the chip. So now you've got a chip and a neuron interface. And they were able to hook that up to a computer that was loaded with pong. Well, guess what? These neurons started playing the game pong. But listen, they knew how to play and the longer they played, the better they got. They learned. So here's the question now that the scientists have to ask. How does a neuron not attached to a human in a petri dish know how to play pong? Are the instructions stored in the neuron? The answer is no. Then and this is going to go back what we said earlier. The neuron is the antenna that tunes to the place in the field where pong lives in our some people call it the aosic record or they call it the plant field or zero point field or the divine matrix or the matrix whatever you want to call it there's a field that underlies all existence and that field is information. So in the experiment the neuron was the antenna connected to pong in our lives. The neurons in our brain and the neurons in our hearts and in every organ of the body. They now been found connect us to that field. When we replace our natural biology with synthetics and we no longer are using those neurons and we're no longer using DNA, we're still human and we can still function, but we've lost our divinity. We've lost our ability to love, forgive, to initiate our own healing, uh, innovation, imagination, creativity. This is the essence of our humanness. This is why we're the prize. Because when we lose those, we are vulnerable to power, control, and other people's ideas of of what our world and our lives should look like. The transhuman movement is the movement to do just that. And these next five years are critical. So that does that help to understand why our bodies are are so so powerful? Why% I mean this is this is great context for people and I I can already tell people wanting to follow up with the question in their mind. So I think this is great context to give people uh you know a small percentage of all the information you're talking about here to give us context. There's a couple quotes I want to read that kind of back what you've been talking about that you shared before. Quote from you. Expressing our divinity frees us from the fear that keeps us small, insignificant, and powerless, allowing us to triumph over life's challenges. Can you see where that would be now based on everything? That's why I wanted to cover those experiments. Okay. The next quote you said is, "Awakening your divinity begins with the way you think of yourself, your story." And then one more quote to tie into this. You said the language we use, the words we choose to describe ourselves and share our thoughts, feelings, emotions, and beliefs forms the framework for the unity or separation that we experience when we think and solve the problems of everyday life. And did I write that? This is what you wrote. You know, I'm I'm laughing because this is a new book and this is the first time I've heard someone reading those things back. Sure. Yeah. But my my question is for you then, you know, you're talking about our human DNA, I heard you say, is a fractional antenna. Fractal antenna. Fractal antenna, meaning we're receiving all different types of information from all over the place. Um, so I'm curious then, we're getting information from the outside world, whether it be media, parents, friends, peers, whatever it might be, advertising, all coming to us. We're also getting what I heard you say, our most powerful environment is our emotional environment. So we're getting information from our emotional environment constantly. How important then is our inner self-t talk and the stories we tell ourselves in how we either create and attract what we want in terms of abundance or have more of a miserable type of a life. Sure. Well, you nailed it and that is the essence of our humanness. We have conscious stories and unconscious stories. I had an unconscious story that I am not safe in the world without my protector. I'm I was not consciously aware of that. So that inner conversation is vital. It's more than important. It's it's vital. Our story uh defines the way the way that we are in the world. So we live our lives based upon our story, the way we're conditioned to think about ourselves. Everybody has a story that begins before we're even born in our our mother's womb. The epigenetic factors are determining our our subconscious story. Uh the way that our friends and our family and our peers and our school and our church teach us to deal with the world. That's all part of our story. And based upon our story, our story defines every relationship we'll ever have. This is an adult audience, I'm assuming. So every relationship, every friend that we'll ever have, every human that we invite into our bed is a reflection of the story that we have told ourselves about ourselves and believe. This is the key. What story do you believe? Many people tell themselves stories, but they don't even believe their own stories. Those are called affirmations. You can say the affirmations a million times a day. If you don't believe that you are worthy of a perfect mate, if you don't believe that you're worthy of the healing, how does one Greg start to believe they are worthy and deserving of incredible love, abundance, we're doing this right now, health? Yeah. Even if they had a horrible backstory, even if their parents had abandoned them, abused them, if they had been cheated on, lied to, stolen from, physically, sexually, emotionally abused over and over again when their reality was something that was painful and suffering. How can they believe I'm worthy to look at all the bad stuff that's happened to me? What you just described is the workshop of life. That's where the workshop begins. But the workshop has to begin with the story, Lewis. We are not what we've been told. We're more than we've been led to believe. We need the reasons to think differently about ourselves. I can walk into an audience. And I can say, "You're powerful beings." And I've seen it a million times with a million speakers. People have a notebook just like you have right there. And they write just like you're writing right now. And they'll say, "I am powerful. I'm a power." And then they'll look up and say, "Yeah, what's next?" Because it meant nothing. But if they don't believe it exactly, it doesn't mean nothing to them. Knowledge is power. So you need story plus the belief of that story. One of the reasons I honor the left brain, everyone has a left brain to some degree. Everyone learns differently. Not everyone learns the same. Not everyone wants to hear everything that I just shared with you. But if someone is looking for the reason to think differently, they're saying, "Greg, give me a reason to think differently about myself." I'm sharing with you in the book a lot more detail, but I'm sharing the science that that shows us that we are a soft technology. We're not a frail uh biological flawed biological form of life subject to flaws. We have very very few flaws. Our body performs with what it's given to work with. Our our body is a reflection. Candace Per, the um the Harvard MD said this. molecules of emotion. Molecules of emotion. She actually said your body is your subconscious mind because what you believe about yourself is creating the chemicals in the body that your body fascinating. Yeah, it really is. And and the body is your subconscious mind. So that means what you think and believe about yourself consciously and subconsciously you create within your body. So I as a as a a child had to reconcile what I felt what I would call my my soul compass because uh it wasn't supported in my community. People didn't talk like this when I was a kid and uh and it sent me on a journey to understand myself and that led me on a journey to understand our past and that led me on a journey to understand I had two I don't know how we're doing on time. Can I share a couple of stories? Yeah. Two very powerful stories. Uh experience. I was I was 14. So now I've left home. I'm in living with my band and I go to see my first rock concert. It was a group uh that was called Jefferson Airplane. And the lead singer was this stunningly beautiful woman named Grace Slick is her name. She's still alive today. And I sat on the front row and yelled at Grace Slick and told her how much I loved her. And she completely blew me off. But I watched In that room, there were about 30,000 people. Wow. And I watched them moved by what a couple of people did on that stage. But here's here's the thing. Then the concert was over and we left. And everyone needed to have something to recreate that experience. At that time, they were eight track tapes or albums. They needed something to recreate that. Now that feeling that I'm a couple of weeks later I had another experience and I'm not saying I'm aligned with the message. There was an evangelist named Billy Graham powerful powerful speaker. He spoke to 70,000 people in the Kansas City Athletics Stadium outdoor stadium. And here's the difference. When those people left, they felt differently about themselves. They didn't need anything to recreate the feeling because his words had helped them to sense and to feel and to see themselves differently than they did before they went in to hear that. Wow. What I recognized as a kid, I I don't know exactly how I'm going to do this, but I think there is there is a way our words the words are so powerful. I mean, when you think about what we do with words, we breathe the breath from outside of us. We invite it into our bodies. We begin to flutter our diaphragm. We push the air back over the direction it just came down from. And as it's moving back, we begin to flutter our vocal cords in just the right way. Listen to this. to reflect the thoughts and the feelings that we're having as acoustic waveforms so they can leave our bodies and fall on the skin and onto the eardrums of another living being to convey our deepest most intimate experiences. Do you know how powerful that is? It's fascinating. And nobody tells us that. Nobody tells us that. So I there's a there and so we're expressing a frequency based on the words we use, the sounds we use and that and then every other person is receiving that frequency. It begins with a thought. Nobody could see our thought, but we're converting the thought into acoustic waveforms through the air that we're forcing back and and the ability to to modulate our vocal cords in just the right way to create those acoustic patterns and then they leave our bodies. My words have left my body. Now they're falling on you. They're touching your skin. They're they're touching your eardrums and you your nervous system is now interpreting my thoughts and and we are so good at it. We don't give it a second thought. Yeah. That's how that's how powerful we are. What is the frequency of our words and how it supports or harms us? It's not so much the words themselves. It's the meaning that we give to the words. That's the key. So it's the interpretation of the word significance that we give to the word that we either tell ourselves about ourselves and believe we have to believe them or that other people instill within us before the age of seven. You talked about this story in the beginning where you know you and your brother grew up in the same environment, same parents, same schooling essentially uh but you have different lives, you interpreted things differently. How can one learn to break an interpretation that they've lived a life of pain, sadness, and suffering? Not deny the experience that happened to them, but not define them moving forward and holding them back from the abundance that they want to create in their life. That's the beauty of our humanness and our divinity. We have the ability to choose. We must accept the responsibility with that choice that we choose not to be defined by our past. That was a choice. It was a conscious choice I made when I was young. I looked at my father's life. I looked at the destruction, the emotional destruction. I looked at what it was doing to me and I said, "Now, my younger brother, and I love my brother, and if he's watching this, I haven't talked to you for a while, brother, but I love you." He carries that hurt and allows that to define his life. And so all of the misfortune and this is nothing new. You've heard this. All the misfortunes, the bad relationships, the bad jobs, whatever it is, it's somebody else's fault. You know, we're you're you're looking around you for the reasons. And that is a fundamental shift in in understanding our relationship to to the world. We must choose consciously or sub. I'm not saying it's always a conscious choice, but on some level we choose to be defined by what the circumstances of the past or we choose to free ourselves. Human divinity is what allows us to do that. If we don't have our human divinity, the ability to innovate, to imagine, to create, to love, those are all these are all facets of human divinity. you begin to see why it's so important for us to preserve to claim and preserve our our humanist our bodies. I I think perhaps the greatest task that we're given as humans is to honor, preserve, protect the gift of our bodies. Because once we relinquish our humanness to the technology, we'll never get it back. Once we give our humanness, once we give our biology away, we'll never get it back and we become something very different. This is what Ray Kerszwhile is talking about and it's what the others are talking about. But it comes down to something even deeper than that. And if you're going to do a sound bite, maybe this is going to be the sound bite because because not everybody's in to the good and evil. Not everybody's into the technology and all of that. Comes down to love. The question that we all ask ourselves, do we love ourselves enough to accept the gift of our humanness and the responsibility that comes with being a human and our divinity, expressing our divinity fearlessly in this world? That's the question we're all asking ourselves and without a verbal answer. The choices that we make, the politics that we choose, the medical systems that we choose, the food that we eat, the wars that we create, or the peace that we create are the answer to that question. We're all answering it right now. But how can you answer it if you don't know the context? So, I'm going to go back. Good and evil, a battle between good and evil. This is a very different battle. You don't win this battle. It's not the kind of battle that you win by fighting. We don't want to win. We want to triumph. And the way you triumph, and this is the beauty, you don't have to know any of this. The way we triumph is by living the best version of ourselves. We live our humanness. We live our divinity. We love fearlessly. We innovate. We create. We forgive without expectation. When we do that forgiveness, we do all of those things. And by doing that, that is the very opposite. The evil wants to defeat us by separating us from those expressions. When we live them, we have triumphed. Wow. And I think that's the beauty of where we are right now. So again, if someone makes sense if I say it makes sense to me, of course, but if someone's watching listening and they're thinking, you know, I've just had a rough life. Sure. I've just had a tough life. I'm sure you can think of someone in your life who's been holding on to that story and maybe it's validated, right? Like they can validate that and they've had it really challenging. Sure. If we can try to simplify the steps, maybe the actions and the practice might take a lot of time and energy and conscious effort, but if we could simplify the steps, if someone is feeling completely stuck or broken in their relationships, their financial situation, their career path, and they just feel like energetically things are not working for me. I'm not able to create the life I want. I'm hearing you say we're supposed to protect and preserve our bodies, but I'm taking drugs because it's helping me deal with all this stress. I'm using alcohol, porn, addiction because I'm exhausted. What would be the practical steps that they could start to apply in their life to go from a story and a past of suffering or sadness and transform it into peace, freedom, and financial and emotional abundance in their life? It's that is a really good question and what we're doing now is the answer to that question. It has to begin with knowing that you have a choice. First of all, step one, know you have a choice. So many people believe that there is no choice because they have been conditioned and indoctrinated to believe that they are powerless victims of a world around them that they have no control over and that they are a flawed form of life that needs something outside of their bodies. Right? So knowledge is power. You have to be willing to embrace the deep truth of your humanness and your divinity. It's very difficult to break through those patterns if you are not willing to accept the truth of your humanness and the power and responsibility that comes with being a human on this earth. And we're given very few reasons to do that, Lewis, in our lives. And our school children are given very few reasons to do that. And that's why they've lost respect in many cases for their bodies. They don't have a sense of a future because the indoctrination is telling them they live in a world where it's hopeless. That's what it's telling them. Now, I with the exception of the drugs, I've been I've been we were so we were more than poor and my father finally left. He left when I was 10, fortunately. Uh tough for my mom raising two two boys. She didn't have a job. This was uh 19 early 1960s. Northern Missouri or where were you? Yeah, northern Missouri. Uh, just north of Kansas City, Missouri. North Northwest Missouri. Northwest Missouri. Yeah. Uh, I lied about my age. I went to work in a copper mill so I could be a union worker after school. I worked union hours, 4:00 a.m. to or 4 4 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. There were 12-hour shifts. We lived in government subsidized housing uh for most of my teen years until until I I left and then I was forced to go back. At the age of 14, I left. uh the court intervened and said you have to go back until you're 18 or you become a ward of the state. So I I went back. We lived in government subsidized housing. Uh and it's one of those things you can hear the words from a million different people. You have to find a reason to become more than the circumstances of your past. You have to find that reason for yourself. And that's why the information that's it's more than just data. When I can show someone the potential within their bodies to look at it differently, when I can show someone what their divinity is really all about and that it's it's so valuable that nations will create wars to divert and distract us. What is it within us that could possibly warrant that extreme of hurt and suffering? It's because we are so valuable and so precious. I can tell you another story about I have no idea how we're doing time. Are we okay? We still got time. Yeah. But so to wrap up that thought real quick, the first the first step is to know you have a choice. Knowledge is power. But then the story will will fit into this as well. To know you you have to to know that you've got the choice. I think the second thing you said was the need to be willing to tap into your divinity and humanity to recognize that the that potential is there and that we are rare and precious and beautiful and ancient and sacred form of life. No one's telling our young people that at all. You know, we see this in religious traditions where the human body is often called the temple. You see that and and in biblical traditions, other traditions from that perspective, if someone is biblically inclined, I think it's um 1 Corinthians 13, I think, that says, "Know ye not that ye are the temple uh of of God." What does that mean? Well, we go to Egypt, we go to Greece, we go to many of these ancient civilizations when they build temples, they build them in layers. Uh, and the innermost sanctum is where the most precious secrets and the wisdom are always kept. For example, the ark of the covenant in Solomon's temple wasn't like by the doorway when you walk in. You had to go through layers to the chambers. Yeah. Chambers. And and only certain people were allowed in there. Well, from that perspective, if the human body is a temple, those ancient traditions, that innermost sanctum was called the Holy of Holies is the term that's given. The Holy of Holies. It's where the ark was kept in Solomon's temple. We as a as a temple, as a human body temple, have not one holy of holies. We have 50 trillion holy of holies because the nucleus of every cell in our body holds the information that reminds us that we are not what we've been told. We're so much more than we've been led to believe. And when you begin to think of of yourself from that way, now I agree. If you're if you're down and out, broke, strung out, uh unemployed, I mean, these are are big concepts. Who's got time for that when you're just Yeah. It's hard to overcome that. But it's not impossible because we're human. We are human and we have a choice. And this is what sets us apart from all of the forms of life. Now, there are techniques that we teach and some of your other guests have talked about these as well. For example, you can't change what's happened to us. I can't change the hurt for my past. And what I've experienced is nothing compared to what many of my brothers and sisters on this planet have experienced. The trauma creates the chemicals in the body. There are techniques to release that trauma. And once it's released chemically, then what remains is the emotional remedies. It doesn't make a lot of sense to go through the emotional remedies and within the context of of chemical trauma in the body. So I would recommend so first release it physically then I would recommend exploring techniques to release the trauma. And what I have found most effective, we do this in our 4-day programs. I'm not here to talk about that, but I want people to know these are available. There are forms of breath work. The breath work is a lubricant. It's an emotional lubricant that frees those neuropeptides to move through the body. There are emotional freedom techniques, EFT, uh for some specific forms of trauma, tapping the tapping, yeah, techniques, uh people have used therapy can work to a limited degree. And I want to I want to back that statement up. 1991, scientists discovered 40,000 specialized cells in the human heart. Now, I say discovered, they'd always been there, but no one thought to look because they're they're essentially neurons. Why would you look for a neuron that you know is in the brain? Why would you even look into the heart? Well, they found a a neural network in the heart. Wow. So, what that means is when we have trauma, we experience it in two places. And the neural network in the heart thinks, feels, remembers and emotes independently of the cranial brain. So that means the trauma that we experience throughout our lives, including me and coming from an abusive alcoholic family, that trauma is instilled if it's unresolved in both places. So I can go to a therapist and talk about my trauma from the polarity of my left and right brain. That's the ego. And the brain, because it's a polarity organ, it does what it always does. The brain will always see your trauma in polarity. Good, bad, right, wrong, success, failure, worthy, not worthy. That's what the brain does. The beauty of being able to access trauma from the heart is the heart is not in polarity. And there are techniques called, for example, heart brain coherence. Some of your guests have talked. I know my brother Dr. Joe, he and I used to teach together. I was using my programs. He began using in his programs was very successful. He's taken it light years beyond uh where where uh we were working together in the past because it works. And when you can begin to experience the trauma without the judgment, the polarity of the rightness or the wrongness or the goodness, how could they do that to me or I was betrayed or how could she have done that or how could he? That's what keeps us locked in the trauma is they don't understand why someone could do something so bad to you. Yeah. Well, that's that's the ego. That's the emotion. But to heal, we don't have to understand it. What we're doing is releasing it. And the beauty of the breath work, the beauty of the coherence work is that you don't have to say any words. You don't have to describe it to someone. You don't have to relive it to because every time you relive that trauma, what you're doing is you're strengthening the neural network that's hanging on to that trauma. Uh, and really what you want to do is to free the neuropeptides that were created from that chemically and physically. Yep. Yep. So, so to be able to release physically release that trauma is where I personally in in my journey I'm what I'm describing you is my journey and from that knowing that we are chemically free of the trauma there's an emotional component that says ah you know you feel different I mean feel a release oh man we we I we what I invite people to do in our our 4-day programs is take a picture of their own eyes before we go through this process and the process involves what we're doing now. It's information to give them reasons to think differently. It's techniques and it's it's breathing uh and other things that go with that and then take pictures afterwards. Now, I'm not saying it's easy. I mean, these people I respect. I just I love and respect them. Oh, man. Deep. It's tears snot all over their face, you know, screaming the whole thing. Yeah. You've been through that. But and through all that, their eyes clear, perfectly clear, crazy light and shiny. And they are so happy and they say, "My god, I didn't know. They're so accustomed to the burden of the trauma. They forgot what they are like in the absence of that burden." Man, it's so incredible. It can happen so fast. It happens fast. When you can learn to release the the trauma physically, you feel like a brand new person. Now, what I'm hearing you say is first you need to learn how to in order to heal, you need to learn how to understand it, but also you need to release it and free it chemically and physically. But then how do you emotionally link it together so that the emotions don't come back? You will never change what happened to you in the past. What changes is the significance, the meaning that you give to those experiences like Victor Frankle. Exactly. Man's search for meaning. You know, part of my heritage, I'm a Hebrew blood, but our faith was denied in the 50s because people were afraid. It was right after the war. We lost family in the Holocaust, so it was denied. And part of my blood is Cherokee. Cherokee was also a Holocaust. Uh they were victims of the hol that the Trail of Tears experience that was still epigenetically those things are are passed down. And I can't change what happened. But I have worked and I I will. It's it's not an event. The healing is never an event. It's a process. It's a journey. It's a journey. We're already healed or we wouldn't be here. And we are seeking deeper levels of healing. And I think that's important for people to realize. Our our bodies are wired to heal. We are constantly healing. Healing is our nature. Every organ in the human body is now documented with the ability to stop the damage that's been incurred to reverse that damage and actually to heal and regrow telomeres, for example, on the DNA. Even the organs that we were told could not, pancreatic tissue, heart tissue, brain tissue, we were told couldn't. And and all of them have been documented with the ability to do this, Lewis. And here's the catch. There is a catch. They have to be given the environment to initiate that healing to create that healing. And the environment is the emotional environment that has the greatest impact. We have to feel that we are worthy of that healing. Divinity is the reason for that worth and we understand our divine nature and it has again nothing to do with religion. People will link religion to it if they want to. That's fine. That's fine. But go back to the definition the the ability to transcend perceived limitations. That is a powerful powerful facet. But if our past is continued to define us and we have created the belief that we are unworthy because of everything that's happened. Yeah. How do we then after decades of thinking something start to believe actually I'm not unworthy the way my parents told me or that this ex told me or that my teachers told me or my friends or my older siblings I'm not unworthy I am worthy. How do we actually believe that after decades of programming and blocking our divinity and our freedom? That's that's what we're talking you have to know that there is a possibility another possibility that is so a lot of faith is just no it's not faith a lot of people discount knowledge they say yeah I don't want just tell me what to do tell me what to do the knowledge is a code once you see a potential about your body you can't unsee it now you have a choice you can deny it we have free will deny divinity everyone has divinity But not everyone will express their divinity. We have the ability to deny our own and many people will they will they will say they're not worthy that they don't have the power. We can have our divinity taken from us by those who have power over us uh conditioned out of us and that happens through an abusive family relationship. Technology can steal our divinity because think about this. Divinity doesn't live in the body. We have to be able to communicate with the part of us that doesn't live in here. Science is struggling with this. How did the neuron know how to play pong? There's a part of that game that's not in the neuron. There's a part of us that's not in the body. That's what it's telling us. So, we have to be able, this is why now more than ever, I mean, it's always important to be healthy. These next five years, we've got to be healthier than we've ever ever been in our lives because we need every iod, every ounce of our biology, our humanness, so that we can fully express our divinity, so that we can love. We're going to love this world. We're going to love this world into a new world. We're going to love this world into healing. And there is a component about who you surround yourself with. You want to trans transcend without judging but if you want to transcend a violent or hurtful past then you seek community forensic community can be one person doesn't have to be an ashram. You know for some people it is but you seek those that uh that will support your vision consciously or unconsciously. And we do that in life. This is what relationships are all about. We will all our prime directive is to be whole. We all seek wholeness. And we will seek the wholeness in relationships with other people who hold the energetic patterns that we've lost, given away, or had taken away from us by those who have power over us. Say that one more time for people. We will seek our wholeness by being in relationships. Let me say it and I'll explain it. By being in relationships with those who have the parts of us that we've lost, given away, or had taken from us by those who have power over us. So, so now we're talking about energetic energetic imprints. So, when we find a partner and we know this, we'll actually say the words. We'll say, "Man, I feel really good when I'm with you." Or, "I feel whole." Or, "You're my better half." Or, "I feel complete." Those are all and we're we're being very honest because when we're with them, think of it like a puzzle. My father, for example, attempted through criticism to denigrate and demean my capabilities. And he he did to some degree, but I I didn't believe a lot of it. But I, as a musician, I would seek out a community. And when I was with other people that believed in themselves and they they had the guts to walk up on that stage and own that stage and pull out that guitar and blast those vocals where I felt very self-conscious. You felt insecure around it. Insecure because I had been taught that I wasn't worthy of of that. And by by being around other people, you know, you say it doesn't have to be an intimate sexual relationship. It can be. And that's where we usually learn the fastest because that intimacy goes right to the core of the essence of our being, the chemicals, our vulnerability. It's the fast track to a deep healing if we're honest with ourselves. Or it's the fast track or deep wound or it's a fast track to a deep wound. And I I have multiple divorces to attest to that because because we all learn and grow differently, you know, in life. So, we're seeking that wholeness and and I think if someone wants that healing to remain in a community with others who have poor self-esteem, poor vision of themselves, who hate their bodies, wake up in the morning and actually some people say to themselves they they they hate their bodies and all they want to do is get out of here. They want to get off this planet. Those are not conducive to the healing. And there's actually an energetic component, Lewis. there is a a consciousness an energetic component. The Institute of Heart Math uh I've worked with uh since the year of their inception 1994 95. I'm not their employee but they have empowered me as an independent author because I understand their their technology to to use their technology. And one of the things they found was that around every physical heart there's an energetic blueprint. There's an a field that's extends between three and five feet. Wow. And and I asked them once. I said, "Man, if a heart's so powerful, why does it stop at five feet?" And they said, "Oh, well that's the limitation of the equipment." They said, "On the quantum level, in all probability, our hearts are influencing the world around us on an infinite level on the quantum level." But here's what it means. You and I are within 3 to 5 feet. We're sharing a heart field right now. And I love you, brother. I'm loving you right now. And I feel your love and support. So when you're healing to surround yourself with people who have a a healthier I mean not I don't think anyone's 100% but to have a healthier sense of self and a deep respect and a reverence for life and for their bodies. That field is going to influence your body. And it's one of those thing I can talk about it but you have to experience it. And here's here's what it'll feel like. You'll just start feeling different and all of a sudden somebody's going to offer you a hit of acid or a line of coke and something in you is going to say, you know what, that's not for me. That shift is the awakening of that divinity and a deep respect and appreciation for the human body. Because we all know we're here, if you're here now, we're here for a really special time to advocate for our divinity in the presence of a field or evil, if you want to think of it that way, that wants to steal it from us. We're here to claim it. and that little shift. Or maybe somebody will offer you a big greasy burger and big greasy fries with a heap of ketchup that you would have done anything for a week earlier. And you look at that and your body feels different and that and you have to listen to that because that's your body saying, "I'm worth more. I'm worth more than what this food is going to do to my body." Because the meal is not about filling the empty space. The the meal is about nourishing the gift of my biology of the gift of my temple. Whatever words, everybody uses different words. Sure. Those little signs begin to happen when you when you go through these steps and and then it's a choice. You follow that path and you say, "Wow, what else am I eating?" Maybe that emotionally, physically, you know, we're because we're conditioned to to feed ourselves in a way that steals from us the very thing that we cherish the most and that's life itself. Wow. That's our that's our conditioning. You know, I I take groups in the Peru every year. I used to before co we finished our 40 48th trip in 46 years. Wow. And in the capital of Cusco, uh, or the city of Cusco in the Andes Mountains, it's always been an indigenous community, really pure food. They grow their own, you know, beautiful potatoes, corn. They built a KFC and they built a McDonald's side by side. And all the kids started going there after school every day. And now obesity and diabetes uh are rampant. And they're people saying, "What happened? We don't understand what happened. Well, look at your environment. They're they're nourishing themselves with something that is not supporting the the gift of life. And you didn't see that 40 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, you didn't. I did see it 10 years ago. This has happened within just the last 10 years. It happened. You didn't see obese people in that town. No, necessarily. Yeah. No, you don't see obese because they're eating they grow their own food and they don't have a lot of chemicals and preservatives and things like that and you know they're high elevation. They get a lot of exercise. Yeah. a lot of hiking and stuff. So, these How are we doing on our list? Is this helping? This is powerful. And I want to, you know, we I I have a couple final questions for you uh before we have to wrap up. Well, I I want to honor I'm realizing I did a lot of talking and I want to stop and and allow allow my host to ask. Of course. No, this is beautiful. I want to I want you to speak for more hours. I mean, this is I feel like we're just scratching the surface, but I have a few final questions before I ask them. I want people to get a copy of your book. It's called Pure Human: The Hidden Truth of Our Divinity, Power, and Destiny by Greg Braden. Um, make sure you guys get a copy, a few copies of this book if you want to learn more about your divinity and your power and how to unlock your power for abundance, peace, and prosperity in your life. Extremely powerful. And if you are loving this uh if you're on YouTube or if you're listening on audio on Apple or Spotify, leave a comment in the YouTube of your biggest insight or takeaway that you've heard so far. And if you want more with me and Greg, uh let me know in the comments below and maybe we can get Greg out here in the future again to talk more about this. I feel like we just scratched the surface. Lewis and Greg's big fun podcast part two. Exactly. Exactly. So let us know if you want more of that. Like it up. Leave a comment. Um, I've got a few qu final questions and we'll see if we can keep these tighter to be respectful. We'll do the lightning round. Lightning round. I don't know how fast you make this one, but of 40 plus years of work, research, dedication, uh, acquiring knowledge and also teaching. What is the biggest thing at this season of your life that is blocking your abundance? Blocking my abundance? I feel nothing is blocking my abundance. I feel I just turned 70. I feel better than I've ever been. I feel like I've been training my entire life for what is in our future. Uh I used to be conditioned to think that I made mistakes and I believe that I've made no mistakes. I believe I made choices based on what I knew and understood at the time. Some of them had consequences and outcomes that were unexpected. But that's a very different idea than saying that it was a mistake because when I'll just a quick story. When my dad walked out the door, but I was 10 years old and my mom knew we were in for a tough ride. She didn't know what it meant. She knew we were in for a tough turn. She gave me a book. Uh she had the insight to give me a book and it was called The Prophet by Khalil Gabbron. And some of our viewers I know are very familiar with that book. Each chapter is only maybe a page and a half, two pages and and a deep insight. And there was one chapter that spoke to me that now is on every email that I send out. And it's I say it to myself every day. And that simply said work is love made visible. And what that said to me, Lewis, was whatever crosses my path that I'm willing to do, consider it carefully. And if I say yes, I don't always say yes. If I say yes, I'm in a million%. And that that path will lead me to an expression of my love not only for the world but for my myself in the world. So practical application, I used to work nights loading box cars uh with 50 lb bags of parina catchow and my co-workers hated it, man. It was hot in Missouri summer, humid. It was tough. Work is love made visible. So I said, you know what? If I do this just right, here I am getting paid eight hours a night. If I lift with my legs, I've got a quad workout. I said, if I'm using more upper body, now I've got an upper body workout. I can come down here, have a job, get paid, and leave physically better than I was when I came in. That's love made visible. It's a very different It's all in the mind. It's a very different mindset. And I think it's important whatever we do in life, if we say yes, we're all in. That's beautiful. work is love made visible. I love that. Khalil Lebron. Khalil Lebron. Um, here's a question I ask everyone at the end. Uh, so I have two final questions for you. But again, I want people Should I sit down? This sounds big. But again, I want people to get this book, Pure Human, the Hidden Truth of our Divinity, Power, and Destiny. Make sure you get this. We'll link it up. Uh, and follow Greg online as well. What's the best place to support and follow you? Is it gregraden.com? Greg. Greg was two G's. Mom did that intentionally. Two G's means it's not a Gregory. Oh, there you go. One G's a Gregory. It's just Greg. It's not abbreviation. Plain old Greg. Two two G's. Greg Braden.com. Um, and you're still leading workshops and retreats and all these different things. So, all that will be linked up there. A little bit fewer, but uh and we're doing more domestic, but yeah, all the live events are listed on the website. There you go. And again, if you want a part two, make sure to comment below. Um, here's a question I ask everyone towards the end. It's called the three truths, hypothetical question, and scenario. You said before we got jumped on here, you want to live to 200. Correct? I think I'm on the 200-y year plan. 200-year plan, which we'll talk about next time, what that looks like. But imagine it is the year 200 for you. Uh you're 200 years young. And for whatever reason, that's the end in this world. And imagine you get to create everything you want from this moment you're 70 for another 130 years. And you get to live the life of your dreams from this moment till then. But for whatever reason, you have to take all of your work with you. This book, every book you've created, this interview, it's all gone. Hypothetical scenario. Uh, but on the last day, you get to leave behind three things you know to be true. Three lessons about life, the world, whatever it may be. And that's all we have to remember you by. What would those three truths be for you? Three truths, I think, would be number one that we we are divine beings. not what we've been told, so much more than we've been led to believe about ourselves. And that we've come to awaken that divinity within ourselves and and within one another. Uh through that divinity, we love fearlessly and discover a a level of love that allows the nations of this world to come together and the leaders to look at one another in the eyes and ask the question, how much good can we do in the world before we leave? If my work in some way could influence that event, uh I would be so deeply honored and grateful. And number three, uh, to look back on all the good that has come from whatever it is that I've offered, whatever sense I've offered for people to think differently about themselves because I I love this world and the people of this world. Uh, and just to really bask in the fruition of all the good and all the beauty that we all know is possible. in our hearts to to bring that into the reality of the world. I can't think of a better way. Wow, that's beautiful, Greg. That's beautiful, Greg. And and to come back on Louiswis's podcast 200 years from now because we're going to have new mics and new cameras. There we go. It's going to be amazing. U Greg, I want to acknowledge you before I ask the final question. I want to acknowledge you, Greg, for being a conscious leader in the world that struggles with divinity, spirituality, and pure love. and you've been doing this work for over four decades being a vessel of service and truth and knowledge and wisdom and I want to acknowledge you for being a leader in this space where I feel like it just seems to be getting harder and harder for the youth. I mean for adults as well it's harder and harder for people and over the next five years as the forces of evil try to capture people's hearts and souls. I'm grateful and appreciative of you being an interruption for people with wisdom, knowledge, and practical lessons to take back and reclaim our own power to have some type of transcendence over it all. So, I acknowledge you for being a leader in this space. What you don't know is it's been a tough couple of weeks. It's really good for me to hear that. So, thank you. Thank you. It means it means a lot to me for you to say that to me. Of course, of course. I'm excited to do more in the future. Um, but my final question, what's your definition of greatness? The definition of greatness is when we say yes to what the universe has brought to our doorstep and then we do our very best. No holds barred and that's all we can do. We have to be great. That's all we can do. So our greatness is allowing our divinity, our light, our love, our skills, our talents to show through, to shine in this world. and uh and doing it in a way that brings joy to us and hopefully to the people around us. Greg Braden, thanks for being here. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Power, I I appreciate you. Powerful, man. Thank you so much for being here. I hope you got some value from this episode as much as I did. If you did, please do me a favor and click the like button right now. 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And I thought, what a great question. And I saw that it wasn't as easy to change as we as we think. Right? You could say on Monday morning you're going to stop cursing and stop complaining.