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Consciousness, Spirituality, and Well-Being

most native societies thought Seven Generations ahead well we don't think even one generation ahead we cannot afford to know this and ignore it I spent my whole life studying everything that we have to be aware of to be healthy people which is utterly dependent on this planet and is utterly dependent on our food supply it's utterly dependent on our water and our air we can come back to wholeness and the question is how much pain is it going to take before we wake up to our potential as Souls there's only two forces that create everything in the universe and if they're out of balance your universe verus out of balance I'm going to show you a technique that I developed that anybody can do that will help you clear your mind up and Live Your Dream beautifully I think you're going to love this it can be daunting many of my students with tears in their eyes often say Paul how do I even begin to tackle any of this stuff it's so great every single soul carries a piece of the grand puzzle if you just do what you love to do with the intention of bringing awareness to the things that are most important the world would change rapidly hey everyone welcome back to know thyself Our Guest today is a world renowned expert over many different disciplines he is an OG I've been studying this man's work for many many years now and it's because he's cultivated Mastery in so many disperate fields and fields of study and experience in life that I feel like he's able to communicate so effectively and really show how Dynamic the aw Awakening process is he's a founder of Czech Institute and spirit gym which teaches the science of living well and self-actualization Mind Body Spirit Paul Che thanks for being here it's my pleasure it's a great pleasure thank you it's a kind of a surreal to be here because I've you know watched a number of your podcasts and I've always really enjoyed them and I enjoy your presence you know you're I can always feel you in your Center and so it was nice to share a TI Che with you and see your beautiful home here it's really gorgeous so not a bad place to drive a few hours to get to thank you so much for coming out I really enjoyed just catching up a little bit beforehand and then doing the Tai Chi which was nice out by the pond and yes thanks for that gave me that taiichi ruler which I'm going to start practicing felt amazing yeah it's uh that's the lineage of Master Fong ha so may his Spirit be with you uh how I want to start this conversation is kind of like an bird's eye view macro view of the perspective that our life in this plane of existence is very much like an earth school or a spirit totally or like a spirit gym it is a spirit gy so I think that sets up the framework for the conversation which is going to be diving into the many different aspects of our physical mental spiritual um Awakening and actualization process but uh but how do you perceive this human experience as kind of Earth school for us well I think you know there's many ways to look at it but the way I perceive it for me you have to start at the beginning which is what some people would call God others may not like that word it has many different meanings and maybe we can talk about the definitions that I give those words so that it's not confusing but if we just consider source as the absolute or the unknowable um source is frequently referred to in religions as unconditional love and if you do what I've done and even talk to atheists about this and say well if if there was a God and God was love what type of Love would it be would it be sex and violence love like the love that a child experiences by coming by way of an act of sex cuz all creation is an act of sex but the child has to learn to deal with gravity it has to learn to deal with sharp things fire dogs that bite you know it finds out you can't just pull on its whiskers without a reaction so the period of coming into a body for the soul is is quite um you know violent in a sense compared to being one with all that is or would it be conditional love which I classify as I love you if I I love you and I love you but I love you if you and we as children learn that we have to get clear on what are the conditions that allow us to feel love and if you don't get clear on it as a child when you start dating and having more deeply personal relationships you realize there's certain things that just don't feel loving to you um even though the other might tell you you know like I remember my father saying you know words like I'm going to whip you because I love you well to me that was very confusing right that was sex and violence love with conditions and I didn't find it attractive at all or would God be empathetic and compassionate love and that's a very very high form of love I think that's really quite Godly and I believe love is the verb of God which is very important or would God be unconditional love and I've never had a single person no matter what their Phil opical orientation was atheists or otherwi say well if God was God then it would be unconditional love and so I say well if we're all here living in a field of conditions then we have to ask ourselves how does God go from being unconditional to creating all these conditions and that was a question that plagued me for a long time so as as I always do I went went deep into meditation and and connected to my soul and and spent time really asking my soul to connect me to Source Consciousness and I asked you know why all the Death why all the evil why all the pain why all the conditions because if you're unconditional love how did all this get here and the answer I got back really was very classic of what I get when I connect to Source Consciousness it was I create conditions so that I can love myself unconditionally and when you realize that Consciousness is a psychic substance produced not blindly but in living awareness of opposites you can't become conscious of or make meaning of anything without a subject object Duality so to say well how does this happen well then because God is Source I use the symbol zero for that because you can't define God as any number or you you're objectifying God which means you have an idea not God I meditated for years and and asked for help with that and did a lot of study and what I came to the conclusion was God does not think itself into existence God dreams itself into existence and we can dream when we're unconscious we can dream when we're sound asleep and we can have dreams that are so profound that you can orgasm in a dream you can be scared to death in a dream you can wake up from an experience that's so vivid it seems more real than your Waking Life and so what I found to to take a a lot of steps and synthesize them down is that God dreams it so if you use the alchemical model which starts with fire which is the dreaming nature of God but the emptiness of God creates the desire which leads to the dreaming and God has only one mission is to know thyself Andre isn't that just quite amazing because there is nothing else God by definition is that for which there is no other and because of that God is terribly alone and I've had profound experiences of being one with God and the aloneness was so intense that it left me in tears for hours and hours like just really deep deep aloneness and so I realized that God dreams characters into existence which is the myth of Shiva and shaki and Shiva as one example and so if you follow the alchemical model you've got fire at the top which is the dreaming nature of God it's the desire to experience itself and so what happens is you have God dreaming all these characters into existence which are really expressions of itself so we can use the Tantra model the feminine of God the emptiness of God is the desire ire but is also Source energy and Source Consciousness and shaki represents God's desire and she's got this emptiness inside of her which is the womb and she wants a partner a lover a consort and a friend which becomes Shiva and that becomes the first step of manifestation so because the subject of shaki is God as subject dreaming itself into existence and shaki's subject through which she dreams Shiva Shiva becomes the the the Beloved and she's the lover she's the subject he's the object so once you have love which is the basis of relationship now you have two points of sentience shaki and Shiva and this is of course metaphor um and they begin to e recognize each other and that begins the relationship and that is the flow of energy and information between two points of sentience and that's the basis of mind so once you have love and relationship and you have the flow of energy information now you're at the air element so fire steps itself to Air and for those listening it's important to remember that in alchemy the words earth water fire and air are not only referring to the objects or the material existences they're referring to ranges of vibration so fire would be the realm of spirit something that's moving so fast you cannot measure it it's infinitely fast it would be the non-local domain or the implicate order of David B and then you have that stepping down into water the water element is the domain of connection and the flow of feelings and emotions and this is where we get our sense of value and you know there's a lot of if you look at creation Miss from all over the world most of them begin with some kind of Chaos in water and so you step down into the water element and then the step down from the water element into the Earth element is any form of embodiment so anything that has any solidity to it an example is you can take an ice cube which is solid so it actually in alchemy is the Earth element you heat it up it becomes water because it turns to liquid anything liquid is the water element if you heat it up enough it becomes atmosphere the air element you heat it up enough it'll become plasma and if you you know if you had enough power you could ignite it and turn it back into the fire element so you see that these elements are always becoming one another so because God really wants to experience individuality because without individuality there is no way to have love there is no way to have relationship so the Earth is one of probably potentially infinite places within the dreaming nature of God if you said okay well how many planets could there be even if you had a one Universe model I've seen estimates that say even within the Milky Way galaxy there would be about three billion Suns like ours with planets that could could be like ours and and and this has been looked into by many Mystics um and I referred to them in my spirit gy books so what you're seeing is that God is actually wanting to have an experience and the more m material you get in that experience the more of a sense of tangible separation you have so it creates this amazing illusion of Separation but as you know what's looking through your eyes at me is ultimately what's looking through my eyes at you right and this is why when people used to say to St Francis of aisi one of the most common questions he got asked was how do I find God and he would say what you are looking for is what's looking and and you know if you really meditate on that it it it's a it's a fast route to uh you know at least an intellectual Awakening and so really the and the Alchemists say that God which they use the word the dragon in some schools of alchemy like the doist do is in everything in the rocks and the stones and the trees and the veins of metal and everything and that the process of spiritual evolution is to extract Spirit from matter and the process of extracting Spirit from matter is a spiritual develop velmental process so someone who's very encased in matter would have a very materialistic view of life as someone becomes more and more aware of things like um out of- body experiences uh lucid dreaming remote viewing um active imagination they become very conscious that who and what they are is not matter bound but the body is kind of like a cocoon where we go through this metamorphosis and the world is really like a cocoon or an egg or a petri dish where Souls come into this Garden of Souls and they inhabit material forms where they have this very distinct sense of Separation which really gives you a very tangible experience of love because there's a very definite ey thou as the soul evolves and you become more and more spiritually awake you know I Define spirituality as a as a progressive connection to a greater whole so there comes a time where um I can be very very conscious of the fact that I'm looking at the Andre of me and you're looking at the Paul of you and that each of us is actually the same being but each of us has this undeniable uniqueness within which source or God or spirit is trying one unique potential which is 100% novel and will never be repeated again and so the Earth to me is a garden of Souls and it is a place where most of the souls here are still Awakening to the fact that they've taken on a material form platinus says something very true and quite profound he says the Soul's greatest addiction is to matter and the reason is is because only God can give a soul and God by being Unconditional Love by Nature the soul can't see itself and you know for example if you were invisible and you went to try to brush your teeth in the mirror you wouldn't see yourself and you wouldn't know where your teeth were so platinus says that the soul gets so enamored with its body and says here it says I am look at this I this is cool and it falls so in love with this material existence but it doesn't realize that the deeper it goes into a material existence the more asleep it gets because Spirit has to be entangled like you matter is Spirit moving slowly enough that you can interact with it so it gets kind of drunk on matter and that begins the necessary process of creating the resistance that is the basis of what I call Spirit gem which is where you slowly wake up and you know when you're repeatedly doing things that are not um supportive of the Soul's urges or desires for manifesting its unique genius in this plane then the pain teacher comes to visit you so many people say I have a very hard time connecting with My Soul because I've been teaching people how to do that for years but some people are so locked up inside either bad diet bad lifestyle unhealed traumas fear Etc so I say look you know your Soul's always talking to you so the first thing to do if you want to hear what your Soul's saying is pay attention to where you're dealing with challenges in your life where you got pain in your body where you have sadness where you have fear because your soul is showing you what you're creating so if you use any of those as doorways you will get through the veils of yourself and as you you know deal with your mommy and daddy issues you'll unlock that libido and you'll have more energy to create with and as long as you have a dream that gives you enough levity to overcome the gravity of your life then you will be in a labor of love and it'll lift you up progressively and eventually you'll get to the point where you know doing things like spending time in nature meditating uh breathing classes you know the many many ways you progressively begin to see that the world is actually this most beautiful garden in which we go from the mineral soul of Steiner's model to the biological Soul then we develop an intellectual Soul then we develop an awareness Soul which Steiner says begins when you first begin honestly asking the question is it really true is it really true that God will burn you in hell is it really true that there is no such thing as God is it really true that I'll never have abundance in my life is it really true that nobody loves me and to the degree that you honestly pursue answering the question is it really true you turn on the awareness Soul so the soul begins to climb up out of the matter but we also have to remember in alchemy we deal with allegory we deal with analogy and we deal with matter not only as physical matter but we deal with the same matter we're talking about when you say what's the matter with you to somebody because that matter can be as entangling to the soul as physical matter so by asking the question is it really true you are actually dealing with the other type of matter that is largely mental but equally solidified in people and then you grow from the awareness soul to the creative Soul because as you unlock all this libido that's trapped in all this isolation fear and material existence you have all this energy coming up which would be very much like Kundalini rising in yoga and you start to actually realize what love is and you start to feel what love is you feel love when you eat your food you feel love when you walk through nature you feel love in your breath bre you feel love in the stars and the sunlight and the Moonlight and so this natural creativity begins to come out of you and you you begin to naturally have greater intuition and inner vision and you can more naturally think outside of the box you can start to really see how caged people are in belief systems and rigid ideas and you're so naturally creative because this life force wants to climb out of matter it's really the the Consciousness that makes matter is God Consciousness so as you disentangle it you become more and more shall we say Godlike you become more expansive and and uh less limited and more free then the intuitive Soul comes online and so intuition there's four functions of Consciousness in in yion Psychology thinking feeling sensation and intuition thinking tells you what something means feeling is related to your values and the emotions attached to values sensation is what tells you what something is this is hard or soft or wet and intuition is the only one that can go beyond those other three functions and intuition is drawing from wholeness so we have to have access to our right brain and in our culture that's so left brain many people don't have access to intuition not because it's not there but because their mailbox is so full that when an intuitive ins it comes in they can't find it amidst all the mail so this is why spiritual practices that you know progressively bring you into states of emptiness I call that leaving the mailbox open like most of my work is governed by my soul so I have to have periods throughout the day where I empty myself so that I can see what the mailman wants to deliver which is always a response to our deepest intention and then you ultimately reach the point point which The Alchemist also identified which is what Steiner calls Spirit Soul Union and so that's when the the part of you that is seemingly self seemingly individual seemingly separate meets the part of you that is actually Christ or Cosmic Consciousness and the two of them come together and the male and the it's also the male and the female energies the feminine and the masculine and all of a sudden you begin to have experiences of complete Unity not only with all that is but beyond that and you know from my own experience of you know 18 years of taiichi being a meditator since I was 12 trained by the monks of the self-realization fellowship in fact I went to the Lake Shrine not far from here from my 15th summer and spent uh I don't know two or 3 weeks working with the monks where I I learned a lot that really gave me a foundation which probably I wouldn't have made it through my life without it and so you you can begin having these profound experiences that go beyond even a Sade or a union experience with all that is to uh and and through taii I broke through into uh very profound non-dual experiences where some of them were I became pure awareness but some of them went even beyond that to where there was AB absolutely no thing and in fact I didn't even know I was alive I didn't know who I was um I don't really have words to describe it but you go to this place where you could say it's unconditional and there's not a thought there's nothing in fact I'll tell you real quickly about one of the experiences I had I'd probably been doing ta Chichi for about 14 or 15 years when this happened and I at that time I was coming home at night I'd spent year doing Egyptian sungazing as well and I was also a vegetarian at the time and I did the taichi ruler practice quite consistently I did it every day for 18 years sometimes twice a day and on this particular day I got home in about 5 5:30 maybe the sun was going down and you know it was the en the cool the heat was dropping and I started doing my normal ta Chi practice just like you and I did and the next thing I know Angie my second wife was came came down into the garden and she says Paul we've been calling you for over an hour for dinner what are you doing I I I was high as a kite I was like I was on five hits of LSD and I mean I was of course straight as ever but but I was just blissed out to the max but somehow Andre my body was doing that taiichi and I went into a state where there was not a PA there was not a thought there was not an awareness there was I don't have words for it it was a an abyss of emptiness and my body was doing that rhythmic taiichi for an hour and 40 minutes when I looked at the clock cuz I looked at the clock right when I started I've been out there for an hour and 40 minutes and I it could it felt like just started I I had no sense of time whatsoever and I've had many experiences like that in plant medicines but they're very different on plant medicines because of the nature of the plant medicine so that's the long short answer to you know Earth School Earth School is really where God wants to have a very real experience of individuation and that function is so that love can be experienced so that I can say I love you and know that I am sending love to a person place or thing and and on that note I will say I Define love as the flow of energy and information through empathic and compassionate connection to self or other because when we say we love someone we are sending them energy it's information and it's empathy to feel and it's compassion to understand to self or other and I think that's the only way God can deal with its primary primordial aloneness is to dream love into existence which requires lovers and beloveds so Earth School is where you come to learn to love and know thyself the podcast could be over right now and it would be satisfied that was an amazing answer very thorough um and I I want to just zoom in a little bit on the individual personal process right of source differentiates itself into all these different experiences through the the gifts the positive the negative polarity the challenges uh we are providing the universe God life whatever word you want to use there a unique experience to know itself in that way and this process of becoming whole unto oneself as you refer to of individuation yes uh I saw this quote that you had in spirit Jim as I Was preparing for this that I loved that said um from Alden Nolan the day the child realizes that all adults are imperfect he becomes an adolescent the day he forgives them he becomes an adult the day he forgives himself he becomes wise isn't that amazing it's amazing isn't that just Bullseye true I when I came across that quote I said I have never heard this guy's name before but he's a wise man truly yeah CU you can look back on your own life and see right where you're at with that very simple model yeah a Quick Share it's the small habits and acts of self-love throughout our day that I feel stack up to make a big difference in life over time and one little example of that for me is drinking an ag1 in the morning if you don't know ag1 is a foundational nutrition supplement that delivers daily nutrients and gut health support and 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out Link in the description back to the episode enjoy and so as we start to understand and unveil the different layers of the Mind from our conscious ego structure to the preconscious and subconscious layers to the Deep Well of unconscious both individual and Collective um we start to see and and I just think this framework is so helpful to see where you're at on your own evolutionary process and how you're perceiving what's coming into your life how it's happening for you and not just to you yes going from victimhood to Creator Consciousness definitely excited to go in your personal journey and process with this as well and so when you I would love for you to share your thought process around breaking those different uh layers of the iceberg so to speak you mean the structures of Consciousness well there's a lot of different models um I use gaber's model which is one of the ones can Wilbur refers to a lot but I I read everpresent origin by Jean gibster which is a big big read and it's a deep and then I use Arthur M young Young's model because I think Arthur Young's model is very easy to apply to a human life um there's you know Ken Wilbur's model there's like there's loads of models out there there's um I we World Cosmo and then you know be on Cosmo to complete Union which you could call Christ Consciousness um so really we come into the world and we have this well I'll use gaber's model you know when when you look at the fetus in the womb it recapitulates the entire evolution of species on the planet you start off as a single cell it divides and at times the fetus look like sea creatures sometimes it looks like a reptile sometimes it looks like a bird so it's about the first 18 to 20 days you can watch it going through all these transformation that literally looks doesn't look like human at all and so we see this model being um recapitulated and as a side note what they call junk DNA from my investigation is our genetic history as Souls evolving through the entire Um Kingdom of nature Yogananda says in his teachings it takes about 6 billion reincarnations through nature the kingdom of nature to get your first human body so I believe that the junk DNA is actually the genetic code because we're built out of all that we are made out of all that we're sort of like the evolutionary tip of the sword of nature on this planet and so in gaber's model that sort of protohuman exist is the archaic level of Consciousness and then you go from there into the magic level of Consciousness which relates to the period of time in which we were living in a fusion with nature and the magic level of Consciousness is very very shamanic for example if you investigate how it is that Shaman figured out how to make iasa or how they knew which plants to use for healing ceremonies or psychedelic ceremonies or how medicine men knew how to combine different herbs mean thousands of years ago that there wasn't any you know pharmacist to go to they'll all say the same thing the plants taught me so what you find out is because we have all these genes in us when we direct our Consciousness to a plant or to a creature uh or to a stone we go into sympathetic resonance with with it and that frequency of Consciousness that is broadcasting out everything on the planet has an aura even a stone so it's sending out subtle energy and we're receiving it and so we're actually going into sympathetic resonance and because we have all those genes inside of us our soul takes that information and converts it into thoughts in our own mind that guide us so the magic level of Consciousness is very very important be and interestingly gibster noted that when he looked at rock art and cave art from that period which is you know 800,000 years ago and before um you did not see mouths on human beings they drew human beings with no mouths and so the conclusion is is that it was much more important to listen to survive in nature than it was to speak and so what is it when we're talking to God it's mostly listening what is it when you're um a mother who's got a child that cannot yet speak but you sense that it needs something it's a deep listening when I am building things out of stone I connect to the stones and I ask my soul to link me up to the Consciousness and they guide me and you know people think I'm weird but it's just because they've lost touch with magic level of Consciousness I've made countless plant medicines I'm an alchemist I use this level of Consciousness all the time I talk to the plants in my house and they guide me and tell me things they tell me when they're thirsty or when they need more fertilizer uh I talk to trees I've taught thousands of students to do this I've countless times I've taken patients for example to paramahansa yogananda's encinas Temple the right on the beach there the enus where he's got this beautiful botanical garden with you know wildly vast plants from trees from all over the world I say okay you've got say adrenal fatigue let's go to yogananda's Garden here I'm going to have you touch this plant and I want you to just empty yourself and feel what it's doing to your body and you're going to find one or more of these plants is actually going to put an energy into you that's actually going to make you feel more whole more stable and you'll see things like headaches disappearing like breathing all of a sudden freeing up uh small intestine challenges all of a sudden the guts relax and so you you'll find first of all that the plants are very very conscious of us and they actually feel sorry for us they're like I I I'll tell you an example of this magic Consciousness I was one time taking JP Sears actually out for a hike in the Hills behind our house in Vista which had like a five you know like a five mile a big uh area that was you couldn't build on it so it was like a nature preserve and I just had the urge to say hello to you know all the the plant life there so I grabbed a hold of one of the shrubs and just said hello I just wanted to say thank you for all the love and all the beauty you give us all and the plant said to me wow it's so nice to talk to somebody who is awake where are all the rest of you and I said what do you mean by the rest of us they said well a while back all the people that lived here talk to us all the time and I said oh are you talking about the Indian that used to live here they said yes they moved through here they lived here and they talked to us all the time and now nobody talks to us and so I you know explained in brief you know this is what happened to human beings and they say well you know that must be why they keep wanting to kill us because they didn't used to do that to us we used to have relationships with them so there is an example of the plant kingdom saying to a human being where are the rest of you that can talk to us and you know why are you so brutal to all of us and so here we are going from the aric level which is sort of the evolution of man to to become to the point where it actually um is aware that it's aware you know Homo sapiens sapiens I'm aware that I'm aware kind of thing then we get to this Fusion in nature where we have to listen to survive then we go to the Mythic level and that's when mouss started showing up on Ancient Art and cave art and that's the beginning of telling stories to each other to try to explain the mysteries of life like what is lightning you know why are all of a sudden the Earth is shaking and things are falling down why do we see these strange things happening in the sky why is the sun this amazing bright thing that seems to have these cycles and why does the moon seem to affect so much on the planet so myths were really attempts to explain the unexplainable and myths were also codes of how to understand the process from birth to Childhood to adulthood to old age and understand death and so all the myths were actually taught by the elders to the younger people to help help them understand the process you're going to be going through as a human being Miss dealt with proprietaries and impropriety had to create a sense of magic mystery and awe for the experience of life or he would start destroying it so myths actually became ways that we tried to communicate with these forces which we gave the names of gods because we we didn't know how else to relate to them and they were stories that told us what was happening and stories about how to live life and what would happen if you did certain things for example if you capture somebody in a war what are you allowed to do and not do you know and and they were very aware that if you went too far then they would do that to you if they captured you so there was these shall we say moral codes of conduct moral being a code of conduct that's life affirmative versus an ethic was just a code of conduct that may not be life affirmative as was a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne Division I had a solders manual about 490 pages of all the things that you do in battle and what the enemy looks like and what their weapons looks like and what you do and do not do if you capture an enemy that's that's a an ethical code but it's really a myth right and so then we emerge to the mental level which is what we're trapped in now but coming out of and in the mental level you begin to worship ideas as more powerful than anything else and it's a very dangerous level because you begin to deify ideas whether or not they're congruent with reality and so here you see for example we're falling in love with virtual realities and that's causing a real problem because the further you go into an additional virtual reality the less time and awareness you put into the one that keeps you alive which is why I Define reality two ways reality is what's happening right now this is reality but reality is also everything that supports your ability to stay alive so to the degree that you get trapped in the mental world and you start worshiping ideas that are antagonistic to paying attention to what keeps you alive you can die death by ideas and this is exactly where we're at right now now in gaber's model the final stage is the integral stage which we're coming into right now and he talks about the fact that when the integral stage comes on it can be quite disorienting he describes the fact that time takes on different Natures that there be can can be convergent timelines all happening at once he says reality becomes diaphanous which means see through opaque like you can see through it into other dimensions and we have a lot of people experiencing that we're in our third big wave of psychedelic use which makes people much more aware that we're in a multidimensional reality but in the integral age when we finally get out of the mental we will merge into this awareness that we are multi-dimensional beings and we will see The Alchemist model was very real and we will be able to identify wow we we we really got lost in that materialism we almost wiped ourselves out because we forgot about everything that was important we forgot everything is Spirit cloaking itself in matter and that matter itself is spirit and we lost touch with what Ken W would call the Interiors or the or the upper left personal interior and the lower left Collective interior Dimensions which is the dimension of Soul and Spirit for God's sakes which is what the magical level was all about right there you were very in your interior Dimension and everything in the world was alive it was animated right so there's where you have animism comes from that they realized the tree was not just a bunch of wood it was a living being it was a spirit in there and it was intelligent you know it made things for you to eat it housed insects and birds and it was a home and it was you know there was a point where people thought trees were God in the history of people's beliefs about God because they saw that life couldn't exist without trees so once we get into this integral level we really actually have the ability to see how all the puzzle pieces fit together and it's like oh my God and you realize wow I've really made some mistakes along the way here the question is are we going to destroy ourselves before we get there and it's a very big software upgrade I mean most people have a hard time dealing with a material reality like paying their bills eating real food raising their kids so you know you plug somebody into an integral level it's kind of like being on you know 10 GRS of mushrooms where you know you're intersecting with all these realities and it's kind of hard to balance your checkbook and drive your car but one of the points I want to make in this regard is that all the experts from Arthur M young to Jean gser to Houston Smith to Joseph Campbell to Carl Yung to Ken Wilbur and a long list of them all recognize something fundamental for you to effectively grow in Consciousness you must not only transcend but you must include and that's the problem we have because we have most of the world population at the mental level of Consciousness where it worships ideas as though they're Gods and what is religions but a bunch of ideas right so until you have a religious experience you're just memorizing stuff written on a piece of paper by somebody else and thinking it's God which is you know God thinks this is tremendously hilarious because God's got all the time in the you know universe so God says Let's Get Lost together and have some fun you know and so when you get to the mental level and you forget our developmental history and that the world is the very fabric from which we get our sense of self from it's where our body comes from it's place I mean how what what story can you act out without place right you can't act out a myth you can't live a myth without place so if you over if you forget about the archaic level you forget about the importance of the soil you forget about the importance of the microorganism you forget about the importance of and the nature of water you forget about the sacredness of the sky and of breathing if you forget about the Mythic level well you know what do what do scienti scientific materialist left brain people call a myth they now think it's a lie so myths are equal to lies so what happens is you overlook the deepest most powerful most important stories that tell you things that you cannot grasp with a left brain approach you have to be able to have the same capacity to understand Mythic you have to read poetry and I could go deep into that but to keep it simple so we have now got to the point where we don't understand the deeper meanings of the stories that have been told for as long longest human beings have been on the planet and all of them are telling us about reality Marc eliotti one of the greatest teachers on myth and world religion and Shamanism makes the point all myths are true and now that's hard for a lot of people to grasp but a myth is something that's never true but always will be a myth is something that is never true but always will be right and I'll give you an example you're an individual and your thoughts are completely your own and you're going to die and it's going to be screen to Black because you're really just a animal walking around right so that's never true but it always will be there's some element of Truth to that but there's also an element of it that's not true now if I said that to you as a poem and said read between the lines you would probably say something like God likes to play hide and go seek and I would say you got it but if you don't have the capacity for abstract thinking because you're still stuck in the child archetype and you're still cotton belief systems that stop you from seeing the metaphor the analogy or the Poetry hold the Paradox or the Paradox OSHA says you can never understand God until you can handle the Paradox and it's very true then you get yourself into trouble so you see we're we have transcended but not included myth so now we but isn't it funny that we love Harry Potter and we love movies and we you know we love James Bond and we love all these things but we actually forgot about the most important stories there are and many of those stories are telling you about the inherent relationship you must have with the Earth and with the elements or you will cease to exist as we can exist here so we've transcended but not included the archaic we're destroying the planet we've transcended the Mythic and not included it and so we don't understand the real stories anymore and we keep telling stories that are used to sell you stuff that you don't need and and kill each other with it then we are at the mental level and if we go into the integral level and we don't carry those three other levels we will never be integral because you can not be integral integrated without all those things so here's sort of a punchline to all this when the integral age is coming on like it is right now to the degree that you do not understand the inherent nature of the earth and the inherent nature of our biological existence or biology as it as it exists to the degree that you do not understand myth and cannot not only interpret story But realize that you are yourself a myth and that is very important know thyself there's a myth for you yeah often unaware of the myth that's moving through US yes okay so when the integral age comes on and these Dimensions start to open up to the degree that you are shall we say carrying blind spots it's going to be like you're in a rapid download but you're running such old outdated software that it will collapse the computer as an analogy as young says until you make the unconscious conscious it will direct your life and you will call it fate yes yes exactly he says until until you meet the the unconscious will meet you on the outside in the events of your life until you meet it on the inside and you will call it fate it'll meet you on the outside in the events of your life and you will call it Fate In other words you'll always think shit's happening to you instead of realizing you're actually generating this by being conscious and so that's when I say the pain teacher comes to wake you up right and that it's really important to examine where our Neurosis are because those are the kind of the doorways into perceiving what our behavioral compensations are because of the psychic stress that we haven't fully dealt with that's the pain teacher so the the you know the pain teacher is really the soul saying You must take responsibility for what you're creating because ultimately you're God embodied and you have all that power in you I mean for a lot of people that's hard to comprehend but when you look at what we can create when we're really living to our potential I mean we have examples all around us Mozart DiVinci Michelangelo all you know you know we all know when we're watching an actor or a musician that's in Soul we feel it you like you know because you cannot tell the the difference between who the person is and who they're acting you know when you see uh a great singer on stage for which I you know could give many names but some of the ones that come to me are people like Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder or Carol King or you know I'm showing you how old I am now um you know Michael Jackson I mean you you know there's no question that that that was a man who who expressed himself from his soul cuz moves you so deeply because you're seeing the potential that lives in you not realizing that is in you you projected onto somebody else and when you think of all the great Geniuses you know like look we got airplanes from human beings having these ideas we've got everything around us Steve Jobs and the cell phone I mean whoever you want to attribute that you Tesla I mean the list is so long these are people that were insold they were in their genius and in my philosophy and in my experience every single soul carries a piece of the grand puzzle that is important for helping us realize our potential and realize who and what we really are and to the degree you transcend those structur stages of Consciousness and do not include them you limit the likelihood of ever finding the genius within yourself and coming to know thyself because you are dropping aspects of perception that are absolutely necessary to perceive wholeness and your Genius is an expression of wholeness it's an expression of the Divine it's expression of the entire Cosmos in fact none of us could be here without the entire Cosmos when people tell me they're alone and they feel isolated I'm like you you you you really need to spend some time asking yourself what did it take to create you and what does it take to sustain you you breathe 25,900 breaths a day it came from outside outside of you you drink water you have to it came from outside of you and that water is all over the universe and it's probably been around for millions and millions of years you're even You're Made Of about 100 trillion cells depending on Whose book you read 50 to 100 trillion and each one of them is made of 100 trillion atoms and somehow it's all dancing and those atoms have been around for billions of years you eat food that comes from outside you without which you wouldn't exist every cell in your body based on science turns over every year so the Andre sitting here is a completely different Andre physically than he was a year ago and you say okay where did that come from well it came from the periodic table let's say where did that come from well some of it came from the earth some of it came from the Sun most people believe that the Earth came out of the sun you said where the where did the elements there come from well they came from other stars where does that end it goes through the whole universe so when you track back what you are as a physical body you it takes the entire entire universe to create every one of us and we're constantly breathing each other we're we're we're we're breathing air you know there's scientific evaluation saying you probably have X number of molecules from the Buddha in you right now and atoms I mean like we are all each other and we're all the whole the whole thing is playing this beautiful game of individuality because each one of us is carrying a piece of the puzzle that is absolutely essential and if we don't engage that process of cultivating our genius then we walk around feeling empty all the time we walk around feeling hungry we walk around feeling that we don't fit in or that we're unwanted or we're unneeded or we're not valued and all of that is the pain teacher saying hey you're looking in the wrong place quit doing what everybody else wants you to do quit doing what you think you have to do for money because who cares about all your money if it's not filling you with love you're going to spend all that money trying to medicate the pain teacher and so I think the pain teacher is the soul coming to say you're moving in the wrong direction it's kind of like a GPS if you're with the wrong person in relationship the GPS starts buzzing you're you're going right when you should be going left if you're doing what you're doing for money but it's not making you happy the GPS say wrong direction it's going to cause pain if you're drinking more Cofe you're doing more drugs than you can integrate and use effectively the GPS goes off and the Soul says hey I'm one of the realities of being who and what we are as an expression of the Divine we have to take responsibility for what we create God's got nobody to blame and so neither do we and so the the Paradox of it all is that we have this built-in guidance system and unfortunately unfortunately a lot of religious teachings um knock knock your awareness of that system out and so you get caught in shame and guilt and sin and all this stuff and not realize that a lot of what you're feeling is just the heart saying you're going in the wrong direction and so ultimately I think back to your first question is we're all here to create together as a family as a human family and we're here to create Beauty good truth and we're here to give the genius of ourselves to each other because every time I pass my genius on to you or your Genius onto me we each carry a little bit more genius and when I get to experience Andre's genius or Zack Bush's genius or Ken Wilbur's genius or Houston Smith's genius or an amazing chemist genius or you know um Bruce lipton's Genius of epigenetics every time all of a sudden I I see more and more and I see more of myself and I feel more amazed by all these people and more connected to them and I see the genius of the Animal Kingdom and The Genius of the birds and and all of a sudden I progressively go oh my God this is freaking Miracle this is this is absolutely mind-bogglingly beautiful and stunning but to the degree that we transcend without including we cannot see the genius in ourselves and we can't see the genius in each other and so we keep creating more and more of what we want don't want which ultimately just leads to you know as roomie says the function of a broken heart is to let your love pour out so the question is how broken do we have to get to get the love to pour out when legitimate spiritual teachings is a path to making love every day and to the degree that you live a life like obviously you love what you're doing your whole environment is Satur ated with this is me and this is who I am and this is why I'm here I mean it's it's pouring through the walls right if I put you in someone else's studio and said now do your thing you would feel like you wearing the wrong underwear the wrong shoes you're like I I can't this is not a reflection of my being right your your environment is the physical manifestation of your mind I am sitting inside of your mind and as is beautiful and that's see that's what we give to each other when someone enters Spirit gym with me they get to sit inside of my mind and I say guess what here's a myth Meta Meta structure no matter what you believe it's going to fit in here and all I'm going to do is ask you each step of the way how is that working for you is it creating Freedom are you happy are you healthy are you making love are you growing in your relationships or are you taking drugs and blaming it on everybody else and poor me and still mom mom d mad at Mom and Dad and haven't forgiven yourself and and you know the think God digs all that too right because you know God says hey hey I love playing all these games I got nothing else to do let's let's get lost together and let's get found together you know and and so you know unconditional love always says yes and that's one of the harsh realizations about God you know God says yes everything you want to be an yes let's do it you want to love people yes let's do that you want to steal from people well we can do that it's an old trick I'm getting tired of it but I'll do it with you because I love you and you know this is reminds me of the saying we might have heard it before um when a pickpocket sees a saint he only sees his pocket but when a saint sees a pickpocket he sees God and so we're kind of all like pickpockets until we become Saints and when we grow through the levels of consciousness by transcending including we see more and more of God and less and less pocket and I think that's what we're all doing here it's such a beautiful breakdown man I think right now we're in this Mythos of Separation this cartisian way of dissecting reality into our own limited box of int ual understanding and with that we're seeing more suffering um in in so many places just some random stats I came across that suicide is the number two cause of death for kids 10 to 14 years old shocking 900% increase and anxiety and depression over the last year one in three people report being dis depressed three times as many men are committing suicide than women we're living in a time where there that that is a reality and at the same time birthing a new paradigm just like birthing a new human is messy violent painful at times bloody yeah and you're inviting this perspective to recognize our inherent interdependency and and so when so much of the suffering comes as a byproduct of the illusion of Separation feeling like we are separate from all life yes then we fail to recognize how connected we are and once we start to recognize that all the suffering starts to become alleviated and so any thoughts there as we start to birth this new Paradigm in recognizing our interdependence yeah I think a lot of it goes back to the hijacking of our education systems I mean you know I've studied Steiner for 30 plus years and my children are in a Waldorf School System and I've studied school systems around the world and when you look at the fact for example that about 95 to 98% of all education given in the world in education systems from kindergarten to University come by way of mathematical logical reasoning but according to Howard Gardner's research and others only 8 5 to 8% of the world population learns effectively through the mathematical logical reasoning and when you look at as Ken Wilbur showed and others that our entire education system was invented by plantation owners to keep the children of the slaves busy so they could work them longer and to teach them not to think for themselves but to follow orders and so that industrialized education system has been used to indoctrinate people to think believe act behave and purchase exactly how the plantation owners which are still running the world Co was a perfect example of trying to turn us into little plants in a greenhouse and it's going on hot and heavy and they were always up to that so when you look at the fact that we are in we went through the Enlightenment and we've gotten progressively more scientific and materialistic which is a left brain perspective and the left brain is always cutting pieces out of the hole right it it's not the big picture this is why Steiner said you should not teach children how to read nor expose them to mathematics until they're at least 7 to 10 years of age depending on the child because the right brain hemisphere comes on first in the normal growth and development of the child because the child needs to spend time at the pond and in nature before it starts dissecting the Frog and saying oh look at this Acton and myos and filament and you know because what happens is you start actually seeing everything is isolated from everything else so we have now got this linear left brain narrative that does not show us how everything fits together and how it works together and why it needs to stay in this integrated hole because that is life and I'll give you a very simple example from nutrition you can see magazine articles and journal articles and infomercials all day long of oh you got this wrong take this I just saw someone sent me a video clip of a guy talking about uh hypothyroidism and how they're using all these thyroid medications and ultimately his approach was oh you just need to take these B vitamins and do these couple of little thing what was it it was him saying you can fix it with nutrition but you don't need to be taking these uh T3 T4 you know synthetic uh hormones I said well that's really that's really nice but what he forgot to say is how did you burn your thyroid out in the first place what were the beliefs and the behaviors that led you to living in such a way that you don't know how to eat you don't know how to sleep you don't know how to exercise you don't know how to breathe and you don't know how to take care of your physical body and you don't know how to manage your mind and by the way taking all those vitamins about 96% of which are not organic which means they're all concentrated plants that are loaded with pesticides herbicides fungicides and renes many of which are synthetically manufactured unless you get certified organic or or even if you're getting uh the supplements that are extract from Plants they are still coming from sick plants so you can't get good vitamins from sick plants you're eating concentrations of toxic food from a toxic Earth and I say well good now that you know that these vitamins will support your thyroid gland why don't you go look at what foods those vitamins come from so you know what to actually eat eat and then go find an organic farm to buy them from and then oh by the way you might want to look at what the qualities of those plants are because that would tell you for example what aspect of your life you need to look at for example if you need ginsing because you're low on energy it says to me Paul cze it says let me teach you how to cultivate energy and manage your energy because obviously you're spending more energy you're more Yang or catabolic and you are anabolic so the point I'm making is you can take the right vitamins and you can make your thyroid symptoms go away for a while but you still have not addressed the behavior and the imbalances all you're doing now is doing allopathic medicine with vitamins but you have not addressed the issue and those issues go right back to the management of this planet because there's only 4 to 6% of the food grown on this planet is organic and only 4 to 6% of the food eaten is organic and the rest of it's highly toxic and poisonous and you think just because you're extracting Vitamins out of that stuff well I got news for you you can't make chicken salad out of chicken unless you're mother nature it's just a metaphor you can't make good vitamins out of poison food and what's the point of taking vitamins if it's nothing doing nothing but fortifying your ability to continue to live in a way that's unconscious and out of balance and so what am I saying do you see the left brain approach right there so the point is don't teach the kid to dissect the Frog until it knows its relationship with the pond and it knows its relationship with the mosquitoes and the fish and everything else and so soon as you start teaching kids to read and do mathematical logical thinking you chop their mind up and they lose touch with wholeness and you end up graduating with a PhD and you know everything about nothing that's why they say a PhD is piled higher and deeper or an expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until they AB know absolutely everything about nothing and and and you know I'm I'm just simply saying we've got fundamental problems and what I'm really saying is when you put too much of your Consciousness through the left brain you actually keep dissecting dissecting dissecting and so what do you get you get to things like the hard problem how does the brain create Consciousness well the brain doesn't create Consciousness as deepo choer once said there was uh it took about you know X number of billion years in evolution before the first brain showed up so obviously something was conscious enough to make a brain right so the the point that I'm making is the the brain actually is a limiting valve for it's a filter for Consciousness so that you aren't experiencing everything simultaneously at once and that's the beauty of our intentions we can change the channel I can focus on you or I can focus on the art behind you but if you don't have an education system that does what Waldorf does and builds the right brain connections through story through myth through ART art through singing through dancing through field trips through like during Co my kids school refused to lock those kids up put them in masks and do all that stuff which I would have been on them like skunk smell if they would have tried that but by law they had to put the kids outside they could not let them inside so every day rain or shine those kids were out in the dirt all day long with their hats under little tents and things but my kids loved it they thought it was the greatest thing was they come home soak and wet from the rain and covered in mud they thought it was just fantastic so meanwhile everybody else is staring at a computer screen wearing a mask not seeing each other's faces going further and further into the left brain while the Steiner kids were going deeper and deeper into the right brain under the same stress Steiner kids got more hole and the rest of the kids got more broken okay so do you see what I'm really saying here part of the pathology is that the powers that be are pushing us into a disconnected relationship with the world which generates primordial fear because at an unconscious level we're feeling very disconnected which is very scary we're losing touch with nature we're losing touch with each other we're losing touch with reality that which keeps you alive we're losing touch with what's happening right now because they're throwing so much stuff at us you can't think straight so what a great opportunity to say hey maybe we should play in the dirt a little more maybe we should actually pay attention to the fact that it's not the supplements that make us better it's changing our understanding of what creates wholeness in the first place maybe we should spend more time um gardening and less time on computers and cell phones and maybe we should protect water supplies and maybe we should protect Food Supplies and maybe we should stop poisoning the atmosphere with Chemtrails in other words we we can come back to wholeness and the question is you know how much pain is it going to take before we wake up to our potential as Souls um you know Rudolph Steiner makes a very important point in this gu regard he says human beings will continue to invent Technologies outside of themselves until they either realize all these Technologies are inferior copies of what is inside of them or they destroy the world the question is which will come first and here we are the question is which will come first we are on the precipice of that Discovery we are on the precipice of that Discovery and that is the initiation we are in an initiatory process we are right now in the opening of integral Consciousness and to get there we have to go back pick up the archaic Consciousness and and realize we are people of the earth I mean Adam means adamus creature of the earth human means humus creature of the Earth or an Arabic creature of red Earth um we we we realize we have to eat but we think food is just stuff we think we can grow it in Labs we don't realize we're eating Spirit we're eating food is Not Just Energy it's information and everything you eat is telling your body something just like software and if you eat stuff that doesn't work for you then you end up with health problems which then you medicate or surgically operate on but you still keep eating the wrong information which is why individual dieting you know learning what your body needs and paying attention is critical because your body's genetics tell you what information it needs to keep you healthy we've got to look deep into story we've got to look at what story is you know my favorite definition of myth is myth is a story that tells itself well we should meditate on that because life itself is a story and if life is the story that's telling itself we should say who is telling the story we use the word God for that science has no answer for that they're in an impass I've studied over 37 theories of everything none of them have an explanation for where the strings came from or where the energy for the Big Bang came from they're all at an impass so what you see is religion and science are both equal in the fact that they're myths religion is myth and science is myth because none of them can explain Origins and that remains a mystery and that's why it's a personal relationship and when you go back to the beginning of our conversation and realize love is the verb of God the way you get through the challenges we're getting through is not figure out ways to make more money or make more laws or vaccinate more people it's how do I come to my heart and create more love because that's the fastest way to grow your Consciousness and your connection and what is spirituality a progressive connection to a greater ho and the more sense of a greater hole we have the less alone we feel the more love we feel the more connected we feel the more supported we feel and the L we need to defend ourselves against each other and traumatize each other and so the you know for me it's like okay at some point here we all have to wake up and hold hands and circle the globe and realize what we all need together and the question is is it going to take an iPhone to do that is it going to take more social media to do that or can you just ask yourself who am I how did I get here what am I really and how do I embrace that worship that love that and celebrate that and become more of that and that's really what spirituality is and become more of what you really are absolutely it and my intention with this podcast in particular is to really Empower people with as many insights and tools to go on the path of that nosis to know the truth of themsel and to discover their inherent physical vitality and right now like we spoke too many times the education system teaches us what to think not how to think and you're somebody who has embarked on truly understanding how to think around many different disparate but interconnected fields of study and that's why I love I mean I enjoy talking to you so much because you see and you can you can put together the pieces of how interconnected they all are and how they affect one another and so for somebody that's listening right now you know I don't want you just on top of sharing what you know I would love for you to share how you have come to truly understand like when you have gone to understand the body or the mind how do you engage it so you truly come to uh understand it so so basically how do you think and how do you think it's wise to learn how how to think well it's a very good question um so essentially what you're asking me to describe is is my thinking process because that's the only one I have Mastery of but I am a teacher and I've had over 63,000 students come through the Institute which is a multidisiplinary Institute so I have every kind of doctor and therapist you can imagine and even people changing careers first I'll say that I didn't do well in school I I had a very hard time in school and what I found most frustrating is I could not get answers to my questions and that irritated me and I had the same experience in church and it uh left me by the time I was in the 9th grade I thought why why should I keep doing this and what I found is that when I was doing things like you know I I was a sponsored motocross racer at a young age and so I worked with great mechanics and very skilled people and I started working in an automotive in automotive repair shop uh to make extra money on the side with a worldclass mechanic who also built NASCAR racing engines and I watched how his process worked and one of the things I learned from him is that you keep things clean and orderly and I later built my own race cars and was a stock car racer Built My Own engines and you you've lived many lives I have yeah I've been very very busy and I was very successful I was a drag racer as well but what my point here is is that I found that if I went to people that had Mastery and I asked them questions they always gave me good answers but I found that the same questions asked in school usually resulted in me being told to be quiet or quit asking questions or you know if I would say well how does that happen or why does that happen and they didn't want to answer the questions they just wanted me to hear what they were saying as though it was the absolute fact but my mind doesn't work that way so step one for me is effective learning is you always have to ask what causes that take these vitamins to balance your thyroid what causes that then I say well what caused that what caused the vitamin so what do you learn well you can read the book science and agriculture by ardan Anderson and he says right in there in the rizosphere of most any plant you can find almost every hormone in the human body and that what we call vitamins are actually plant hormones okay so what does that mean it means that if you're taking vitamins that are really extracts of plant hormones then why not eat the plant and you say well what causes a plant to have a good profile of phenolics tpin alkaloids Min um amino acids fats carbohydrates which is a vitamin complex well it turns out that's all utterly dependent upon the microorganisms and the balance of minerals in the soil and so then you say well what causes that well nature does it all by itself but if you want to balance and imbalance you have to know how nature does it so to get to what causes good vitamins which requires good plants you have to have good soil and you have to say well what is the environmental factors that lead to good soil without going through the whole chain you see I'm always asking what causes that when if you come to me with some kind of chronic ailment my first question is what causes that and then I say okay what other systems in the body interact with that system because I might figure out why your adrenal glands are fatigued I.E you have too much cortisol output and adrenaline output but I have to say what causes that and it turns out to be diet factors and lifestyle factors and and the way you think and the way you perceive stress and how you react to it which always boils down to your beliefs because all actions are the products of beliefs choices are the responses to your beliefs so my first mode of how to think effectively is always ask the question what causes that until you get to the impass where you say I'm at the reductio at absurdum I can't go any further and now I can see the chain of causal connection to get to the point of your adrenal fatigue your thyroid problem your life crisis whatever so the next thing that I found to be very very important which I've devoted my life to is to look at all the Sciences or the philosophies or sources of information that are relevant to whatever the topic you want to study is for example if you want to be a good photographer you got to study light you can't just study film and cameras you can know a lot about the internal workings of a camera but if you don't understand light you'll never be a good cameraman right so if you really want to study light then you're going to end up getting into things like Gerta and the theory of light and you're going to get into Steiner and you're going to get into then you're going to find that there's a psychological correlate to color and that everything about light affects your psyche and so you see you keep what causes that and what are the basics so what I found is you've got to study the basics of each system or philosophy ophy or methodology that you're looking at for example I'll give you an example of Basics an exercise has three key components setup execution and follow through if the setup is not correct the execution cannot be correct and the follow-through cannot be correct so if you don't understand that those three phases of an exercise all begin with setup which is dependent upon posture and and Joint mobility and whether or not you have an integrated balance of stabilizers versus Prime movers which has to do with whether or not you have normal infant development and developmental structure stages of development in place which I have to identify and correct in people all the time even the greatest athletes in the world then you will never really know that much about exercise but paradoxically I have countless people in my training program with master's degrees in exercise Sport Science exercise physiology biomechanics and kinesiology who do not know that an exercise has three phases and that if you don't do the developmental work to set set up right which means the structure has to be ready to do the exercise and you have to have the ability to do it then you're always going to be throwing Band-Aids at people which is why most athletes that come to me come with a gym bag full of wraps straps props and pills and they can't figure out why with all their magic biohacking toys that they can't exceed their they can't grow they can't get any better and so I have to go right back to the very very Basics so step number two is look at the fundamental Sciences the fundamental principles and the fundamental philosophies that are related to whatever you're doing and master the basics and how important is this I'll tell you I'm sure you've seen martial arts competitions and kickboxing and boxing and Olympic sports so I got a question for you how many times when somebody was hand handed the gold medal or won the World Championship and the announcer said how' you do it the most common answer is I stuck to the basics I've heard it a thousand times I stuck to the basics and look I was on the third ranked amateur boxing team in the world which I had to fight my way onto I became the trainer of that boxing team and we spent hours and hours and hours doing the same basic drills that you do in beginner boxing and here we got world champions national champions I mean many of the guys on the team had 320 fights by the time they were 19 or 20 years of age and we're sitting there going jab jab one two one two one two 3 tell your arms are ready to fall off right Bruce Lee I fear not the man who's practiced 1,00 kicks one time or punch but one punch 1,00 times right and I'll tell you a little story about that you may know this but I'll share it with the listeners this also describes what's wrong with our young people today especially young men a young man had a friend who was a good martial artist and he didn't like the fact that his buddy was better than him so he said I want to be a martial artist like you where do I go and he said well you can come to my master so he goes and he meets his friend's master and his master says yes I will train you and he walks out to in the driveway next to a great big water fountain and and he says uh this is your first assignment and he throws him how to throw a front snap kick and he says do a 100 of those so the master walks away and comes back a while later and the kid's just standing there he says I did a 100 he said good do 100 more well this went on and it went on and finally the kid said well I'm sick and tired of doing this can't you teach me something else and the master said throw 100 more and he walked way came back a little while later the kid was standing there and he says what's next and he said do 100 more and the kid got snotty and mouthy and the master said come here and he walked him over to the Fountain he grabbed him by the neck and he buried his head under the water and held him down there to he about to drown and he let the kid up and the kid's looking at him in a State of Shock and the master looked him right in the eyes and said when you as hungry to learn martial arts as you just were to breathe come back and that's the problem because mastering the basics is the foundation of all learning and if you don't master the basics and you keep going above and you learning the fancy stuff you don't ever really know what you're creating because you don't know what the house is built on but what do we have today we have people that go to universities and learn how to hang chandeliers and build pretty roofs but their Foundation is falling apart we have nutritionists that don't know anything about the soil I've taught thousands of nutritionists and I asked them who of you can tell me the basic physiology of the soil I've never seen a single hand go up I said well if you don't understand the soil you don't understand nutrition I've had countless people hire me for help because they're unhealthy and having serious problems from diseases to whatever that have degrees of nutrition and when they get my paperwork it has a comprehensive analysis of their nutrition and very regularly they will call me back and they'll say to my secretary I don't want to fill all these paperwork this paperwork out on nutrition there's a ton of questions here I don't need help with my nutrition would you ask Paul if I can skip this section and they've been taught what to say Paul said if you have a degree in nutrition it's twice as important for you to fill that section out I've never had a single patient with a degree in nutrition that had a clue about nutrition what they had a clue about was their favorite sports bars or their favorite um magic powders or magic potions or eat this herb and you'll live forever type mentality or if you have a thyroid problem take these vitamins but they don't understand the foundation so the first thing is what causes this the second thing is master the basics of whatever field is directly connected and to the degree there's indirect connections that you got to know for example I cannot know how to rehab your adrenal glands until I know what you believe how you live and how you relate to six Foundation principles nutrition hydration sleep breathing thinking and movement because every one of them is a source of stress and the body summates stress so how you respond to any sport or any kind of exercise or any kind of stress is based on the total stress picture because physical emotional mental stress summates in the body and the body reacts to the total stress picture but many athletes only look at physical stress and I I often say which of you athletes hangs your divorce your low bank account and your stress with Mommy and Daddy at the door when you come in the gym none of you and all I got to do is ask you have you ever been going through a real stressful relationship period with your wife or your girlfriend or your boyfriend and how did it affect your weightlifting and when they think about it they all go oh wow you know what when I was going through a divorce that's when I got my back injury or you know they can always see the connection when someone points it out so we have to to look at my point is first you got to look at the obvious you got a problem with your adrenal glands I got to understand how the adrenals work but then I got to understand what provides the environment for a healthy adrenal gland and that can lead to the study of psychology it doesn't seem like it's direct it's indirect from the perspective of I have an adrenal problem I got to study psychology then I got to study belief systems and all most of those are based in religion 85% of the world population CLA claims religious affiliation so it turns out that almost all belief systems have some connection to religion so then what you find out is most people don't understand their own religion and then we find religions very confused I can prove it to you if you get out your computer and do a Google search how many sects of Christianity already there are 45,000 branches of Christianity right now each claiming to have the authentic teachings of Jesus okay so the way I an analogize that I'm Paul Czech I own the Czech Institute if there was 45,000 branches of being a Czech professional I would know that I had terribly confused students and I had not succeeded as a teacher so that means that we haven't really understood the teachings of Jesus at the fundamental level or we would not have 45,000 variations of the theme okay so my next principle is don't take in more information then you can actually digest metabolize synthesize and integrate through practical application so many people have been in my library and the first thing they notice is there's notes all through the books inside the covers there's arguments written to the author saying you know this point is incorrect and here's reasons why and I write complete arguments why because I know someday when I die my students are going to look through that library and I want them to know how to think so we we want to look at these important steps but we want to remember that if you cannot take a concept into your life and apply it then you do not have real knowledge knowledge is not power applied knowledge is power ultimately the goal of the education process is wisdom and the way you create wisdom is you first test the information and you make mistakes and you have successes and you make mistakes and you have successes that is the application of knowledge and through the trial and error process of applying knowledge you synthesize it down to what works most consistently and a wise person is somebody who knows know what works most consistently and tries that first and what is the hypocritic oath first Do no harm before you do surgery or take dangerous drugs try getting your diet right your hydration right try getting enough sleep try Learning To Breathe properly and try moving your body effectively well in my experience about 98% of people when they do those things which I put right in my book how to eat move and be healthy do not need drugs do not need surgery their Consciousness comes back on their mind clears up their stinking thinking alleviates tremendously and now they have the libido to be a creative person and find their way in life and I think a healthy person naturally grows spiritually and naturally grows in Consciousness but unhealthy people get trapped in their bodies and their mind gets stuck right where their survival threat is and they can't get past it and when they keep getting railroaded with false education and false profit-driven practice I es then you get what we've got in the world today so if I I mean I could go further and further but in essence there's not really more to say that's important because then I get into too much information so ask what causes that study the basics don't take in more knowledge than you can work with and synthesize and then identify what works what works sometimes and for who and then cultivate a library of however it is that you learn best by writing down by uh creating systems Etc so that that knowledge is easily accessible to you so for example I have mapped out all the relationships between the glands and the organs which muscles they respond or in connection with which joints they're in connection with which ligaments which tendons which meridians which psychological themes so that when my students go through holistic lifestyle coach level three training they have a map that shows them where that organ produces pain in the body what joints will have what types of malfunctions which muscles will get tight or flaccid what kind of movement problems that will create what meridians that's associated with what psychological themes that is associated with with what herbs what essential oils and what types of mental emotional practices or mental emotional healing will restore balance so that in one or two pages they say okay if somebody comes to me with a right shoulder problem I know I've got to check the health of the liver and I know that relates to the issue of anger and so I've got to look at where they're having anger in their relationships and then I've got to detox them because if the liver's backed up it'll accelerate and exaggerate the perception of anger so I have to go from the top down and the bottom up and meet at the liver and next thing you know the chronic rotator cuff problem that wouldn't go away clears up usually with something as simple as a parasite cleanser a heavy metal detox so there's an example of of practical wisdom and so taking in tons of which we have a major problem with today people are constantly constantly taking information and constantly reading stuff on the internet you know and and it's it's it's almost like the mind is a vacuum and they uh sound really cool in a coffee shop but what you end up with sick doctors overweight out of shape trainers placemen and soldiers that are unfit unhealthy and out of shape um and this is why I say to all my students if you don't wear it don't share it you should eat sleep breathe and what you teach and you should be comfortable teaching in your underwear so everybody can see the results of what you're teaching them and I do something fun to point this out to them you get your underwear no well I've done that lots of times they know I mean you know I'm going to be 63 next month you're ripped and a lot of a lot of these young guys even professional athletes come out and lift with me or go in the rock garden and they like can't even budge rocks and I'm picking up chest high and they're like how in the world did you do that and I say I practiced what you're supposed to be learning right now but what I do is I say okay let's take eight or 10 diet books that are on the market right now and look at the picture of the author then go on Facebook and Instagram and find current pictures of them and on almost every case they put a picture on their new book that's 20 years younger that makes them look like they're healthy and vibrant but they're actually really out of shape unhealthy overweight and out of you know and just not healthy so they're creating Illusions and the illusion is if you follow this diet book you're going to get healthy but it didn't even work for them and and and so I say look you know you must wear your knowledge and what it does is it takes a lot of anxiety out of you because when you go to work every day and just share what it is that you do to be a healthy balanced person you don't have to think about it anymore you have to think to teach a kid how to tie a shoe right I eat real food for the following reasons I drink Quality Water for the following reasons and you just explain how you live and to the degree you are congruent with your own living philosophy and your body and your life are reflective of that people know you're genuine and then you have a coherent field you see if I'm sitting here telling you stuff that I'm insecure about because I don't practice or don't believe it or I just think it's the right thing to say your unconscious mind will pick up that incoherence in me and I'm doing what in Shamanism is called sending a double message that's like when you ask someone how you doing today and they say oh I'm fine that's a double message as you shake your head no yeah yeah and so they know something's wrong right we all know when somebody's not telling us the truth because we sense at an unconscious level or intuitively what the real truth is but most of us are too busy to call them on it yeah it's my job as a therapist to call you on it yeah yeah man so that that framework for understanding and like learning how to learn is so important especially in this day and age where there's this digital day illusion we have an abundance of information but a lack of people applying that their knowledge and information to turn it into wisdom and I've been so inspired how you've come to learn and integrate this understanding in where what you teach you know and where what you share I want to share something real quick if I could I worked in the largest Physical Therapy Clinic in San Diego for 4 years if I had time to tell you the story of how I got there I was the first clinical massage therapist ever to work in a physical therapy clinic in San Diego County and it caused a uproar because they physical therapists at that time thought massage therapists were the equivalent of prostitutes so there was a big uproar but in a nutshell the reason I got the job is I rehabilitated the boss after three knee surgeries and none of her 22 physical therapists and athletic trainers could do anything for her and she had a master's degree in physical therapy and when I was rehabbing her the first session I did with her I got a lot more range of motion and got a lot got her to a a lot less pain and she like Paul I have never seen any of these techniques and I have a master's degree in physical therapy she said how where did you learn this you want to hear what I told her I learned it from you she goes what do you mean we just met I said I simply listen to your body and let it guide me to what it needed and now you see the difference and she said can you teach this to my physical therapists I said if they're willing to listen but I want you to know that they're going to have to grow themselves because in order for me to listen to you I've got to make room for you inside of me and if your life is too chaotic your psyche will not let you invest someone else in your body when you're not taking care of yourself cuz it'll say what the hell are you doing worrying about other people you're still not taking care of yourself but the point I was getting to is a guy who I later left and started my own Physical Therapy Clinic with Steve Clark who had two I think two master's degrees very highly trained physical therapist we were an internship site for uh universities and they all have to go through a three months internship usually in a neurological Ward a burn Ward an orthopedic Ward and I think there's one or two other Specialties but they have to do key internships in order to get their degree and so we always had interns studying with us and Kathy Grace the owner of the clinic said I want each of these interns to spend a couple of weeks with Paul so they can learn how to see the body and relate to it differently than standard physical therapy and one of the interns who had come from Ithaca University had just spent an entire day with me and was asking me a lot of questions and like what are you doing and why are you doing that I've never seen that before you know that kind of question we never learned that in physical therapy school and so I had just walked out of a session with a patient and he walked into the bay which is a room about this size with desks all around the walls where we sit and do our chart notes for so we can stay up in case insurance companies investigating stuff and Steve Clark said to this guy Brian he goes so how was it hanging out with Paul today and he looked at Steve and he goes this is the craziest stuff he says I've never seen any of this stuff before I'm seeing him move joints in ways I've never seen I'm seeing him use needles to do trigger point therapy I've never heard about he's mobilizing uh he's treating trigger points he's doing all these things he's doing very isolated highly specific stretches I've never seen before and Steve looked at him and smiled and he said Brian well you and I were in physical therapy school learning how much water is displaced when you stick your hand in a bucket Paul was studying what really needs to be done to help people and that that's the difference and that sums it up right there that's exactly the truth it's the scientific way of understanding what's actually happening and I think if I like if I were to plot somebody in front of you right now like has happened many times throughout your career and you're endeavored with the task to bring this person into optimal wholeness as much as I want to and I if we have space for we'll continue to dive into the psych emotional components of self-actualization and Consciousness in the self but you're inviting the the perspective to focus on the basics and so how were you if you were to break down the hierarchy of prioritization for becoming whole starting with I'm assuming the body share maybe about the four doctors an overview taking somebody through the process of becoming whole what is the most important foundational things going into um what becomes available to start you know digging into unconscious Shadow material once you get your nutrition and sleep in line for example so how would you go through that whole journey yeah now to to do what I really do is very comprehensive and it takes 5 years to complete the Czech Academy and it's intense training um it's intense enough that chiropractors and physical therapists have walked out with tears in their eyes saying this is so much deeper than than I can handle and usually the reason they're crying is because there's personal trainers that can stay with me and that is such a blow to their ego they they have a really hard time with it so over the years I've had to break the material down and stretch it out and it's a Hands-On training you have to get tested and you have to turn in case history so there's no multiple choice test questions you I mean there there's some of those types of but there's it you always have to go through testing but I want to tell you a quick story to answer your question uh in the year about early 2000s I started the Institute 1995 so I've trained a lot of people and one of my senior instructors uh my who is still my senior instructor has been with me for 27 years he's got an ND degree he's a naturopathic physician and an osteopathic physician he's very very smart guy and he's the editor of the spirit Jim book series he's a very deep human being Matthew Walden and we were having our level four examination period And I uh would bring patients in live patients that they would have to take a patient and do a comprehensive analysis in each step of the way me or one of the senior instructors would be watching what they were doing and analyzing it to make sure they were following the procedures and they were doing the problem solving right and I had Matthew come to me and another instructor Mark Stone both came to me on the same day with the same question neither aware that the other one had done it and they said Paul you know you've taught us so much we can analyze people for eight hours straight the problem is is that most of these people have like 30 40 or 50 things wrong with them all of which are important like almost every aspect of their life their body their hormonal system is is really out of balance or problematic we don't know how in the hell you determine what is the most important to address first and how you go about putting this into a stepwise program because we are just completely overwhelmed it's like what do you do when you have 25 major problems at once and I really realized I had a problem like okay I you see what happens when you spend your life learning like I have mostly experientially I spent you know 20 plus years traveling around the world looking for the very best doctors and therapists and experts on everything that I kept running into so if I I had lots of temper man Gibler joint problems I I said I got to the best expert on that in the world turned out to be Mariana rabado who a professor of dentistry and physical therapy at the University of Santiago Chile so I spent years studying with him um I went to the Czech Republic to study with Vladimir yand and Carol levit two of the most elite pioneers of manual therapy and and and real Rehabilitation that included organs and glands and and deep stuff right so I went to the Charles Hospital and studied with them and I studied infant development so the point is I learned by going to the Masters who had already sifted all the crap out and knew what worked and what didn't and then I took it home and synthesized it so the point I'm getting at is I had developed an internal system that I thought everybody understood which is a big mistake for a teacher right so these guys are coming to me and I'm like oh my God these guys don't know how to prioritize things into what's the most important so I sat down and I said to my soul I said I need to put this into a working system so that they can understand how to do this so my soul said to me grab a notebook let's go for a walk so I grabbed a notebook and a pen and I started walking and the my soul said to me Paul what is the most important thing that you have to identify for any client or patient if you ultimately want to help them get better and I thought about it for a second I said I have to identify what their dream goal or objective is because if I don't know what they want to accomplish then I don't know how to direct their therapy or what is the most important of all these findings in order to inspire them and if I don't have a dream bigger than their crisis I don't have a way to inspire levity to overcome the inertia of their Challenge and their habits my soul said very good write that down so my first step is number one love what do you love enough to change for what do you love enough to grow for and what do you love enough to become and my soul said now what do you do with an evaluation what's if you my soul's saying to me inside what do you do with an evaluation if you break it down to the most fundamental principles what are you actually doing I said well I'm looking at where they're too catabolic what are they doing that's creating more destructive energy and destructive reactions in their body than they are anabolic or tissue healing and recovery and growth and repair process so I'm looking at the balance of Yin and Yang my Sid very good write that down two there's only two forces that create everything in the universe and if they're out of balance your universe is out of balance and you need to balance those two forces or you will not have any good results no matter how fancy your program or your supplements look which I'll segue there we're at number two I came across a myth one time studying mythology and it's a Chinese myth and it really points to this issue this is why I'm telling you this and I think you're going to love this and this is the myth of the Dragon you know the doist don't use the word God but they do use the word the dragon so this is the myth of the Dragon the dragon has a favorite hobby it loves to breathe universes into existence and every time it breathes a new universe into existence it is made of two baby dragons a black one called yin and a white one called Yang and the dragon looks at its little babies in this new universe and says the two of you can rest from managing your Universe when you can get along and that is the myth of the dragon and let me ask you a question is it easy for you to calm your mind meditate and be relaxed if you have those two dragons not getting along yeah can you be healthy if those two dragons aren't getting along possible can you reach your potential as a Creator if your dragons are not getting along no there you go so step two of the check system is balance those two dragons because when they're not getting along you're not getting along either three there's only three choices you can make in relationship to any person place or thing the optim Choice which is best for everybody on your dream team and that's the people that are supporting you at achieving that objective you put as number one so if the choices you're making are creating disharmony in your dream team you're creating disharmony in your life and the life of others and you will always have dragons dancing and fighting with each other the suboptimal choice is the one that gives you instant gratification but almost always causes problems on your dream team addictions are commonly instant gratification for example Choice number three is to do nothing do nothing has three applications do nothing when you have to make an a decision but you don't have enough information to make an intelligent decision think about the last four and a half years when it comes to making Intelligent Decisions without the right information so if you are going to buy a car but it's stretching your finances you should really do some research to see if there's a cheaper car that has the same features that might save you 8,000 bucks instead of just falling in love with the first flashy thing you see if you got to make a decision on surgery versus a natural approach so you got cancer and it's chemotherapy versus you better do some research know what type of cancer talk to experts on both sides of the fence and come to a rational conclusion because you've gathered enough information right so the second application is gather enough information to make an intelligent decision because ultimately you have to suffer the ramifications For Better or Worse no one can rescue you from your own choice I tell my students choices are like arrows once you release them you cannot call them back and the world has changed forever so it's better to don't release the arrow till you're sure that you're hitting the right target or you're in trouble and it's expensive for a guy like me to teach you how to use a bow and an arrow okay third is the negative application of do nothing which is apathy which means to not do not I don't care and whenever you use the words I don't care you're in a very deep challenge because you've lost touch with the beauty the mystery and the value of life and it means that your mythology is um dangerously unconscious and probably generating a lot of pain in your life then we get to step four so one love two choic two forces three choices and those three choices apply to four doctors there's four doctors you must have a healthy relationship with or you will never have those dragons in balance and you will not create your dreams efficiently and effectively and that is Doctor happiness Dr diet dror quiet and Doctor movement the chief physician is do happiness because doctor happiness is responsible for deciding what it is that you can do each day to create happiness in your own life instead of waiting for some pill to make you happy or somebody else to make you happy because whenever this is why Osho said the beauty of Love is that it never works and what he meant by that is as long as you expect someone else to love you and make you feel loved you will be in a codependent relationship and eventually the ego will reject your lover because it knows that it's losing itself in the relationship is not becoming whole in the relationship W okay so the beauty of Love is that it never works unless you are making love for yourself and giving it because you have it instead of being needy all the time so doctor happiness's job is to identify what is truly happy making for me which goes right to that one love what do I do for a living what I think I have to do or what I love to do well research shows that 70 to 75% of the world population says they hate their job well that's one of the reasons we have such a massively successful business adventure called the medical system because people have to drug and medicate themselves for not listening to their soul and it it's it leads to pain the pain teacher will show up to put a North star on your compass start here pay attention to what's causing you to be sick Dr happiness is also the chief physician because doct happiness has to establish core values for what is the amount of movement that I need and the type of movement that I need to keep myself at least at Baseline health so I can deal with the field of gravity and the responsibility of a animal physical body then what is the type of exercise I need to specifically have the conditioning I need to live my dream you see cuz if you come to me as a client or a patient and you say Paul all I want to do is play with my grandkids that's my only goal then what I have to do with the science of movement is very different than if you say Paul I not only want to play with my grandkids but I want to climb Mount kilamanjaro in 10 months okay so first we got to accomplish the grandkids because that means Baseline Health then we got to get ready to climb Mount kilamanjaro which is going to take a staged scientifically designed exercise program which I can do so you see we have to get very clear on what our values on movement are because our first objective is to have Baseline health or we're always putting you know as I say to my students you'll be buying a new Porsche for an orthopedic surgeon but you will not get to choose the color okay then we have to have core values around diet and hydration what's the quality of food we're going to eat knowing that you are what you eat period you are what you eat you turn over every single cell in your body every year and you're making it out of what you eat you eat garbage you become garbage it's just simple as that then we have to say what is our values around listening to our body instead of reading diet books and getting caught in isms any ism is a belief system and as soon as you enter a belief system you stop asking questions because the belief system is always closed so I've rehabilitated many people from diet isms that listen to the idea more than they listen to their body and it in those two dragons start making a lot of noise many people have sat in my office and spent an hour or more telling me how fantastic their diet philosophy was and then I had to remind them you're here because you've got cancer and you're sick so why are you paying me a large sum of money if you're telling me the truth right now what you're doing is reciting a belief system and it's not congruent with the reality that you've brought into my office as your body so we we need to upgrade your belief system to something that's more open and have a relationship with your body and love it and listen to it because your soul is talking to you through the keyboard called your body that's where you're making music or noise it's up to you then we have to have values around rest when am I going to go to bed at night and Dr quiet Dr quiet thank you when am I going to go to bed at night and then there's a science to that it's called nature you go against nature you get in trouble you get dragon problems dragons are nature um you have to say how much time off do I need from work a year vacation time so I can you know get out of the world of having to Al always be outcome oriented because outcome oriented Burns people out you get control fatigue and you burn out how much time do I need to spend in introspection and in relationship in quiet with myselfself to have a legitimate loving relationship with me and get to know thyself to know me to be in touch with my feelings my desires my dreams and even my fantasies because that's an aspect of our creativity what do I need to really love care for respect and embrace myself and that could be meditation it could be taiichi it can be art it can be time to play your favorite instrument it's each of us has to figure that out and we all have different needs if you look at the tree of contemplative practices there's like a hundred different roads in right so what we have is we have a chief physician named Dr happiness who has to say what is my dream goal or objective at this time in my life as a big picture and what is my specific dream goal or objective which could be my my professional dream goaler objective my athletic dream goaler objective my spiritual dream goaler objective my parenting dream goal or objective so underneath the overarching umbrella of my life we can have specific dreams goals or objectives but those core values ultimately determine whether or not you have the life force energy and the Vitality to carry out any of those dream goals or objectives effectively and if you're dreaming goal or objective doesn't stretch you it's not a good one you know it's like staying in third grade for 5 years it's like okay yeah it's easy but you're you haven't learned anything and you know that's a that'll put you into a soul crisis just that alone so ultimately what I showed my students is that when you look at all this data you've just gathered you have first identify what they love to do then you look at where they're out of balance with regard to nutrition hydration sleep breathing thinking and movement and you Orient your therapeutic protocol to identifying which aspect of those six Foundation principles is leading to the stress that's causing the imbalance between feminine and masculine yin and yang um anabolic and catabolic then you have to identify what their core values are and where they're out of balance with their understanding of those core values because a lot of people have food values and excise they're completely out of touch with the basic principles what we call reality so it's our job as a therapist to say well you know good but we got to fine-tune that a little bit and teach them so that their core values are actually worth living and and they're congruent with reality and so your three choices then once you know what your dream is you know where you're out of balance then you have those three choices in response to how you manage doctor happiness dror diet dror movement and Doctor quiet and so what you find is that no matter what wrong with somebody you have to say well your first Dream if you're sick is just to be healthy so that's the prerequisite to being a great musician or being a great painter or being a great athlete or all other dreams go out the window unless that dream ised you know you you have to be there right the more unhealthy you are the less of you shows up right which creates a lot of problem in relationships for example if I'm in this relationship with you like we are right now and I'm 10% not here cuz I'm fan izing about food or having sex or whatever most people think well that creates a 10% deficit in the relationship but in actuality there's 10% of me not here and there's 10% that you can't access which means there's a 20% deficit in the relationship now I drove three and 1 half hours to get here to V with you today so I'll ask you a question if my wife plugs in an address that's 20% wrong will I ever get home tonight it's only 120 mil to my house but but 20% wrong means I'll end up in Mexico or in the Pacific Ocean or in you know uh Nevada or something right so when you look at how important communication is in our life and and how important it is to be present in relationships the more of you that's out of balance with those four doctors the more of you is trapped in some kind of either unconscious withhold some kind of unconscious habit pattern or you're distracted by something so you actually can't be present with yourself and you can't be present in your relationship so what you see is those dragons just multiply their problems until you kind of burn your dragons out and what do we call that first it starts up as fatigue then it becomes anxiety Then it becomes depression and it ends in suicide that's the scenario you see it you know I've watched it a billion times in my career um so do you see in a nut shell you can take a lot of data and you can get clear on what is it you love enough to grow and change for because without that I've got I can all I can do is throw pills at you for the rest of your life two I have to identify where the key imbalances are within the Key Systems of the body right I have to look at you know Thermo regul Thermo regulatory system I've got to look at Rhythm pressure and flow your heart and your breathing mechanism I've got to look at how you're accumulating and utilizing energy for example Le um without going through all the systems I have to make sure that you have the resources on board to fuel the autonomically regulated systems and it's interesting because I use a very comprehensive questionnaire with all my patients that analyzes 29 different systems in the body from you know hormonal glands to digestive to brain to you know all the systems of the body and I show my students because they're in training so they have to go through the process themselves so I often grab you know I got all these you know badass kettle bell lifters and you know dick swinging contests and all this you know the Macho people right or the people that think they're experts in nutrition I said okay let me see your health appraisal question here look you you have of 29 systems here you've got like 16 of them right off the top of the chart so I asked them this question do you realize these are all autonomically regulated and they think for a minute they go yeah they they are well good do you know what the function of these systems is and they go blank usually so your autonomic systems are designed to keep you alive and based on this assessment you're very close to dying because you are so poorly managed that even your own internal systems that are designed to keep you healthy I said realize there's not a single cell in your body that wants to be sick none of them but every one of your cells believes your mind as though it is God and I can prove it to you all I got to do is have you think a negative thought and do a muscle test on you you'll test weak every time then think a happy positive thought and you'll get stronger immediately and I can even use a force transducer to measure it scientifically and objectively every time your mind tells your cells what is real and they obey because they're unconsciously governed so the point I'm making is if you don't pay atten attention to the four doctors I just mentioned you will always have autonomic disregulation problems and you can only go so far before something's got to go something's got to collapse simply put there's three primary hormones in the human body insulin adrenaline and cortisol without them you're dead you run out of insulin you're dead you run out of cortisol you are dead all the rest of those hormones improve the quality of life so when I look at anybody I look right away to see what are the indicators of too much adrenaline too much or not enough cortisol or imbalances in the production of insulin too high or too low of blood sugar or oscillating back and forth because that tells me the ramifications of the choices you're making with those four doctors and my job as a therapist is to guide you to balance those three primary hormones or you're going to be dead and on the way to being dead you'll be partially dead which is means I don't have the agency to create in my life I don't have the agency to contribute I don't have the agency to be present in my relationships I don't have the agency to be responsible in my parenting in my management as a business owner and what people often don't realize is that all love comes with responsibility there is no such thing as love without responsibility if you love your dog you got a responsibility to care for it if you love yourself you have a responsibility to care for it you love your children you have to have enough agency to execute responsibility but we've got a culture now that wants love without responsibility and that's what an addiction is an addiction is an attempt to get safe love that comes without responsibility almost always because love has been so painful that they have to find a way to feel loved without responsibility and there we have a paradox that understanding you just gave is so comprehensive and I know it just touches the tip of the iceberg of your work and how deep things go but it's so helpful to be able to examine for all the listeners right now where internally are we at within the scale of the developmental journey and where those doctors out of balance from Doctor happiness to apprehensive but it's really simple what do I love enough to grow for and become where am I at a balance with the feminine which is the anabolic which is linked highly to your parasympathetic nervous system your digest metabolizes simulate Regen generate and recovery and growth system versus your sympathetic fight ORF flight M Yin multiplies power and resources feminine Yang spends and utilizes energy and resources so the most common deficit of all diseases is I spend more energy and resources than I accumulate it's just like a bank account health problems are almost always you know a problem a crisis of accounting we're in energetic debt it's a it's an accounting problem yeah and and I'm saying there's four four books you have to keep as an accountant happiness quiet diet and movement and you got to keep those four in Balance because nobody you cannot be a healthy three doctor person it's impossible and I studied philosophies all over the world from Kung Fu to religious philosophies to rastafarianism you name it I looked all and said how many doctors do they have I couldn't find a single four doctor system in the world that's why I had to create it right now you you mentioned that it's it's quite frequently we see people building momentum towards the negative spiral of anxiety to depression towards suicide and yet as we come to into balance with those two dragons and our chief aim and vision for life and the four doctors we can build a spiral towards the positive and most of us just simply don't know how good it can possibly feel to be a human being well we don't but we have examples to look for yeah right you know if you're a martial artist look for the great ones that are imbalanced um if you're a great teacher you'll find that the great teachers are vital people because they're living true to their love um there there's always examples there it's just that we are surrounded by pseudo experts and and it makes it hard for people to distinguish which is why I always say never judge a man by the Creed he or she professes but by the life he or she leads right you don't look at the degree behind their name look at whether or not they're an example of that level of Mastery so that's what I did I traveled the world looking for real examples I'm sitting here with you I'm a pretty skilled person at reading bodies right you you you got beautiful skin you smile a lot you got good posture you breathe through your belly you're calm you're centered you're present with me should I keep going you you got arches in your feet your structure is healthy you move like you're in yourself now you don't need my training to know that we all pick that up unconsciously when we're with people but it's good to hear reaffirm from you yeah I mean like who pays attention yeah you so what I'm saying is it's unlikely that you're going to have to come pay me the kind of money I charge because you have a crisis of four doctors because you're aware enough as a human being to say I'm not feeling well or I can't calm my mind or I'm really stressed about and then say how do I resolve this but if you allow yourself to get into an energy crisis you will come to the point where the thought of actually having to do the work to manage those four doctors is so daunting that you're probably going to reach for a drug to prop you up and by the time the drug gives you the energy to get the education you need now you're dealing with an addiction and now you're going to need more energy to go through the withdrawal process so it's far better to teach these things to your children so that they have this awareness before they get into that trap which is constantly being sold to us through social media and media right we're being taught how to be unhealthy cuz we're highly profitable that way but do do you see what I'm saying like yeah you know I I look at uh your assistant I forgot your name Chelsea Chelsea I'm sorry I had it for a while but look at like she's in herself she's got a beautiful energy field when I get next to her she doesn't shift me all around neither do you like when you're balanced like I am I stand next to someone if they've got small intestine problems my small intestine starts to wind up I immediately know this person's got small intes if their neck hurts my neck starts to hurt we're all doing that to each other but most people are not help healthy enough to sense it because at the unconscious level we're all connected we're deeply connected you know once you go to the collective unconscious we're all we're all breathing the same air we're all operating off the same archetypes that's what tarot is it's a system of archetypes that we all use to make meaning there no matter what people like about tarot or not the first question you should have is why has this system been around for so long because it's a fundamental truth that no matter what your judgment is you're dealing with the archetypal reality of the human psyche so the point is I'm making is the unconscious Works largely on archetypes because that's how we make meaning and when I'm next to somebody the unconscious is telling me what information is in their archetypes because it's carried in their energy field and it's overlapping with my field so you know the a simple example is how much piss can you put in a glass of beer before you don't want to drink it right well most people would say none and I would one of those urine drinkers well well that's a different story and then we have to remember they're urine drinkers cuz they were sick to begin with um but you see the point I'm making as an analogy when you are in my presence and I'm in yours we are actually becoming each other yep right we are becoming each other so important and I I when I work with a patient the analysis on of the paper and the measuring of their body for me is is only to prove what I already know because I have to be professional about it yeah but it usually I don't even have to see the person if you really want me to be honest I can touch a person's handwriting and see what it's doing to me because their whole energy signature is in their handwriting it's so powerful because what somebody who's so desensitized and numb would need heroin to feel if you raise sensitivity in yourself simply looking at a flower could arri you know get you to arrive there and and and you're so spoton by saying how it's not just what we know but the the embodiment of we know of what we know that really transform people I think of often the people that I invite to have on this podcast and have conversation with it's not just what they're saying but how they're saying it who is saying it where it's coming from and how it's being said that actually impacts people and touches their heart and leads to transformation I tell my students all the time you can ask any of them I say do not believe a word I'm telling you you should test everything I teach you and own it yourself and if there's anything I'm teaching you that turns out to be wrong it is your responsibility to bring it to me and I will tell you the first thing I'm going to do is have you demonstrate it to me first so far 100% of the time they were doing it wrong and when I corrected them and said now go test it it worked well I don't teach things that I haven't tested over and over again cuz I don't want the karma of misleading people and I I tell my students I am Paul Che at this moment I'm 62 years old you let me know how you'd like to test me you want to go in the gym do you want to meditate together do you want to do taichi together whatever it is all I have to show you is the result of the philosophy that I've built for you and if I can't demonstrate it to you you should get the hell out of here quick and that's what's missing in our education system when you have sick people teaching health and Confused people teaching science and you then we can get to religion I'll sum this one up in a hurry you know who shanara is sounds familiar shanara is a v very famous Hindu philosopher Sage at the age of8 shanara began walking around the country of India looking for the most famous gurus of the day to debate them he never lost a single debate in his life starting at 8 years old although he came very close to losing one with a wife of a yogi one time which is written up in I think it's his there's more than one book but the crest Jewel of discrimination by Shan car is very powerful Sean carus said something profound no man can understand scripture until he is enlightened and when he is enlightened he does not need Scripture would you agree with that I think it depends how you define what it is to understand which and it means to understand what the actual teaching is yeah to actually get the thing because words ultimately always fail us and you're and not only that words can mean many things right okay which so here's the point I say to my patients how many of your Sunday school teachers were enlightened none of them how many of your pastors and preachers and Bishops and clergy were enlightened you lucky if you found one that was truly enlightened so what you've just gotten is an indoctrination into the cut and paced ideas of somebody else but the only way you'll ever know if it's true if you go deep enough into yourself to actually find the fundamental truths that the founders of these religions were describing and then you might agree or disagree but as I shared in my podcast if you look at the parallel saying of Jesus Krishna Buddha and LSU they were all saying the same things but you have to actually take the time to study them to learn what it was they were saying and all you can do is look at the words and agree at an intellectual level if you haven't penetrated yourself deep enough to understand that they really are telling the truth right so if you understand that then the enlightened person knows it doesn't matter what religion you're studying if you get to the fundamental truth or the poetic truth that's behind the words they're all saying the same thing know thy self that's what they're saying and when you do you find that we are all expressions of the one love we're all exactly like Bob Marley sang to us over and over again one love and so the the the the the point is you know Enlightenment is also a very elusive word but really it means means I'm in touch with the fundamental reality that is behind the phenomenal Illusions we call life right somebody who's enlightened knows the difference between um the show which is impermanent and where it's coming from which is eternal that's the difference so much of what you're pointing to is is helping us AR ultimately to the place where we start to listen to silence and I find silence often has a lot to say I tell my students all the time you're going to find something you know really interesting about silence it's explosive yeah and I can prove it to you the universe is here and it came out of silence and silence is so full of itself it can't help but create and what do we do we go to sleep at night we wake up in the morning and how many times have you you said to yourself oh I'm tired I'm going to sleep in in the morning I'm going to sleep in until noon sun comes up you oh jeez I don't want to get up I want to stay in bit you got so much energy you got to go do something right so you see when you go into silence and you shut your monkey mind off you accumulate enough energy it wants to create create create man that's like been the story of my life I my wife estimated that I've written somewhere between 15 and 25,000 pages of course manuals I've probably written somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 to 700 published articles I've produced somewhere in the neighborhood of about I've got 1,00 plus videos on YouTube I've produced probably a over a 100 professionally produced videos that are education systems spirit gy is 3,000 Pages that's 15 volumes I mean you see my point I've produced hundreds and hundreds of paintings I got three kids and a grandkid I mean you all I'm simply saying is when you're a healthy person and you have a connection to that for which there is no other what you really are then that shines through you and it's Unstoppable like like you know I'm going to die when I am done not for any other reason I'm GNA die when I say okay I've I've given my gift to the world I'm gonna go play in Another Dimension now you know but for me it's just really I I want to make sure my kids are equipped for the craziness of the world cuz I got surprised at 54 and became a daddy again which is the last thing I thought I wanted but it blew my heart wide open and then Zoe came uh 3 years later and so here I am almost 63 with a eight-year-old a 5-year-old and a 43y old and a grandson so in other words what I'm saying is before my kids came I was feeling that I'd pretty much given the world what I wanted to give it and so I was at a place where if lightning struck it would be okay like okay I'm you know because for me I'm a remote viewer and I I I have a much bigger sense of the universe than most people do or or or multi-dimensions so for me the the the world is just like one little stop on a grand tour that's infinitely large and I and I've remote viewed and and worked with you know very evolved teachers in you know in other dimensions and and on places like Venus and the Sun and I've spent time you know I speak to Carl Yung on the other side I speak to Osho I speak to Rudolph Steiner anybody all of them they're all accessible I mean that that's a whole other story but I've got you a great podcast with Angie cheze and salico on um death and beyond and I we talk about exactly these things but these you know if most people really knew the fundamental truths of you know kind of God's Little Game remember the the second law of Thermodynamics says energy produced cannot be destroyed only transformed and Carl Yung and Wolf Gang paully spent years trying to really scientifically identify what the psyche or the soul was and they concluded that at one end it's pure energy and at the other end it's matter and the seven chakras string pure energy or God consciousness as a rainbow bridge between the highest dimension of the infinite Eternal now with the physical reality of matter and we live in that Rainbow Bridge and so you can think of our spiritual Evolution as that seven-step ladder now you know the Egyptians have models going up to 21 steps and the Dows have three but the reality of it's a rainbow bridge and all I'm saying is I reach the point where I said I I'm going to cross and see what you know go visit some other people and some other places but then my kids came along I think it was this great spirit saying hey don't get too excited to wander yet cuz you got work to do here and when I my kids reoriented me to the life of children I now begin much more being much more aware of you know what they're trying to do to children how they're all these vaccinations and they started doing a lot more research on that and boy did I get my mind blown I knew a lot already but when I started looking into this it was shocking and then I looked at the health of children I looked at the education of children I studied Steiner's waldor system I studied the montauri system I looked at what was in the education system that I grew up in which I spent my whole life dealing with but what happened was the kids made me realize that if I leave the world because I am ready to go somewhere else before I do everything I can do to educate my children as to how to navigate this world and do as much as I can to help all parents understand the absolute highest responsibility as a human being is to nurture your children into their genius so that they can do what they came to the world to do which is almost always to bring us a gift it is always to bring us a gift then I will probably have to reincarnate to finish what I didn't finish so it's almost like my kids came to me to say daddy you don't you can't go yet and they and then you know Angie my second wife is a amazing mother and a very very powerful Shaman and a very very skilled you she's got many degrees uh like Penny and um she also is a great farmer and she studies a lot on childhood development and Steiner teachings and goes to very profound meetings on childhood development with Steiner teach teachers and she's an expert at biogeometry and and she's got a degree in nutrition so great spirit brought her into my life so her penny and I function as a triangle of support for each other and so through Angie's research what penny knows what I know and what we keep learning I I really realized and this led to the development of spirit gum I was like okay the native most native societies thought Seven Generations ahead they didn't make a decision to do something that would antagonize at least seven generations because they knew it would wipe out their people well we don't think even one generation ahead mean I mean I could give you a hundred things that we're doing that are guaranteeing that the children on this planet are going to have a ball buster of existence and anyone smart enough to listen to your podcast knows for sure sure I'm telling the truth and so I said you know I can't just run from this I spent my whole life studying Health holism everything that we have to be aware of to be healthy people which is utterly dependent on this planet and it's utterly dependent on our education systems and it's utterly dependent on our food supply and it's utterly dependent on our water and and our air and we you know I don't know if you ever heard it but I was on Brian roses podcast at the beginning of Coen and he was brave enough to ask me what I really thought was going on I said let me tell you something you should not be thinking about covid right now that's a pimple on an elephant's ass compared to the issues we have going on with our soil our oceans our access to drinking water to the toxicity of the air we're breathing and the fundamental things that we all need together to have the dream board even exist because Earth is where we come to live out our dreams and play together and grow together and create together and it is utterly dependent on the health of our soil our oceans our Rivers our streams our water and our skies and I don't care what color you are I don't care what race you are I don't care what religion you are I don't care what your political affiliation is if you are not thinking about what's going on with those things which are all in disastrous States right now then you are seriously and dangerously distracted from the real issues and government knows this but ignores it Big Industry knows this but ignores it we cannot afford to know this and ignore it because well you already gave us the statistics on young people just a few minutes ago and I do not want my kid nor any any other child to be burdened with our ignorance our stupidity and our laziness so in a nutshell what I'm saying is even though I was ready to do a dimension shift my kids grounded me in the reality that I must help people wake up to our responsibility to our children and to the kingdom of nature we have got to stop perceiving nature as objects we can do whatever the hell we want with and that is scientific materialism you look at who the guru of the world economic Forum experts CLA Schwab and you all know haray Etc it's Adler who was a behavioralist who thought that animals had no feelings and emotions and that they were just biological animals and you can cut them open and do whatever you want to them that's the mentality we've got that's coming into government now this this is forgive the expression this is serious and you can't just you know do your AAS and pretend this shit's not happening we have got to get involved with each other we've got a dream together but you see the fundamental point I'm making just like there's four doctors you can't have those four doctors if you don't have the ecosystem healthy so for my students I developed a model called the echo e for energy C for chemistry H for hydration o for organisms whatever we do to the environment that changes the energy the chemistry the quality of the water and how healthy the organisms are we eat breathe and drink and it does it exactly to us so we've got to wake up to the fact that whatever we do in our environment we do to ourselves and whatever we do to ourselves to diminish ourselves makes us less conscious and we keep doing stupid to the environment so somewhere we've got to say okay we're the ones making this pendulum swing have you ever seen a start a forest fire no I've never personally seen that right have you ever seen a chipmunk smoke itself to death no have you seen a giraffe get stoned on heroin and give up on his responsibilities no but that's quite the image but you see the point I'm making we are doing it to them they are not doing it to us remember I told you I connected to the plants and they said where are the people they used to talk to us what's wrong with the you your people keep killing us well nature is inherently intelligent but it does not have a cerebral cortex thank God or we'd all be dead because they would all be driving Ferraris and spending money they don't have and doing all the crap we're doing you know this might sound like too heavy for a lot of people but the reality of it is it all starts with you you keep spending money on junk you keep buying poison food they keep making it you keep supporting commercial farming they keep poisoning your soils yeah we vote with our dollar you keep pretending there's no Chemtrails in the sky filling your lungs with aluminum and barium and other crap they keep spraying it you think Donald Trump's going to rescue you you need a very cold [Laughter] shower that's what kept me in the game yeah that's why I still keep myself in shape because I must carry the responsibility of love and I love this planet I have a profound connection with the black Madonna who is really Mother Earth and she appears to me she comes to me and speaks to me usually in meditation when I'm in meditation I least expect it and all of a sudden there she is but she looks like about a 65-year-old Aboriginal woman very black and very beautiful and very loving and she tells me Paul this is what you came here to do this is what you need to be aware of you must inspire people to wake up you children you are my children but you are going through puberty and you are now entering a crisis of adulthood and if you do not take responsibility for your relationship to Nature you will have a very challenging initiation and many of you will not make it and she said I cannot intervene or you will never become adults and that can be hard to hear from mother but she's knows that we've got to grow up and she's sacrificing herself so we can grow up it is such a privilege to Bear the responsibility we are uniquely here to hold and um man I just feel that the love that you have so much for this work and to show up for the planet that you care so much about it's I feel it so strongly just emanate from who you are and the mission that you're here to carry out and I'm so grateful for it and I feel like I've only gotten to Maybe cover half of what I wanted to cover cuz I could today in this conversation with you because there's so much there's so much depth in what you're sharing and and so many different tangents to explore and see how they're all connected um you know I often say that when we get quiet what needs to be heard will get loud and I know that you spent many periods in your life clarifying um the capacity you have to listen to yourself yeah and had a very challenging childhood and and many people would not have expected that you would have emerged as you are today from the challenges that you um in one way were afforded for the necessary refinement for your Soul's Evolution but I'm just so grateful for it man because you're a gift to everybody that gets to listen to your experience your wisdom and uh we need Elders we need guides we need people that can synthesize this information and uh deliver with urgency because right now we need these messages well you know it can be daunting you know and when you look at everything we've been talking about you know we are in pretty big trouble but I would like to share you know many of my students with tears in their eyes off and say Paul how do I how do I even begin to tackle any of this stuff it's so great it's so massive it's it's scary I don't even know where to begin it's like I've got to move a mountain with a teaspoon and I this is my response to them use your heart to feel what you know give love where you can give love do what you love to do if you love to sing sing the truth if you love to write write the truth if you love to dance dance the truth if you love to paint paint the truth if you love to talk start a podcast and share the truth if you you just do what you love to do with the intention of bringing awareness to and taking action on the things that are most important I mean look if we understood the importance of supporting organic farmers biodynamic Farmers free regenerative Freer range animal farmers and we shifted 50% of the money going to the commercial food industry into the hands of those people who should be national heroes who are enhancing the quality quity of the soils and enhancing the ability for us to regenerate top soil the world would change rapidly and those large food corporations would go out of business because 50% loss of income would radically shift everything and the water would start cleaning up the skies would start clearing up people would start thinking more rationally they wouldn't believe a damn thing Bill Gates says that would that would be the first thing that happened when you got healthy you'd realize this you know this guy is the epitope of a con man I mean you know like when people tell me how much they love Bill Gates I say okay I don't even need to do an assessment on you we need to start right with four doctors and get right down to Basics here because you know you're very lost and um you see what I'm saying yeah if you just honestly say what would love do now and just do whatever you can do even if it's just starting a garden if it's just hugging more people if it's donating to organizations that are doing a good job like I love giving money to Robert F Kennedy because he's got real values I love getting giving money to the Children's Health defense because they publish real scientific information but and articles by authors that are mature intelligent wise people and I want them to succeed it's important for me that they say I I support the westn A price foundation I support the price pottinger foundation I support the British soil Association there's no such thing as a political system that's ever done anything but there is such thing is controlling what you energize with your money I tell my patients all the time don't water weeds which means don't keep putting energy into the thoughts that are disempowering you or that are scaring you you must learn to pull those weeds in fact I brought you a gift I forgot I brought you a gift to show you how to do that would you like me get it for you another one you brought me like four gifts already oh yes but I brought you something to address this very issue please yeah I thought it would be good for us to teach your listeners and viewers how to manage your mind that sounds pretty good to me I'm going to show you a technique that I developed that anybody can do that will help you clear your mind up and Live Your Dream beautifully shall I go get it please watch this take that out of the package all right these are the two dragons huh you it baby yang this is called the check mind flip coin wow it's plastic stuck together here now you can do this with any coin but I designed this to be something special that's a little heavier so when it's in your pocket you can feel it you can find it easily or in your purse if you're a woman you can find it easier and so the white represents a a positive thought the negative Yin represents a negative thought so let's either make one up or you uh share with me a thought that comes across your mind occasionally that isn't something you really want to live out or you don't want to have to deal with I mean one thing was coming to mind was that the solutions to everything we're talking about need to be figured out with the mind okay so is that the thought it's more so yeah that life needs to be figured out okay so the thought is life needs to be figured out are you assigning that that's negative for you I would say so yeah okay good so if I hear you right the challenges that everything needs to be figured out with the mind yeah okay would you please state your dream in regard to that challenging thought to live in the embodied realization that the heart's intelligence is guiding us to where we need to be fantastic that's your dream now turn The Coin over and take that thought everything has to be figured out with the mind and state a positive thought that is in alignment with your dream so if you energize it you become dream affirmative so a positive thought affirming the dream take that negative and flip it over to something you can buy into wholeheartedly the heart knows the way good so every time you think the thought things have to be figured out with the mind and you know maybe that's challenging for you you say ah thank you dear pain teacher for showing me where I have a mind virus State the PO the dream like you just did it doesn't have to be figured out with the mind I can do it through the heart and through love flip the coin over State the positive that's true that supports that energ it with your love and be that person even if it's in the moment just say I choose to live from my heart and know that I can get past the head because the head's always partial I want to go to the wholeness of love and over time what will happen is you will build a new neural network into the degree you emotionalize that and visualize yourself as that person you'll accelerate the rate the new neural network comes and when it becomes efficient enough it will no longer run the old pathway sounds great and you use the coin because if you only do it in your head you only get the mental component of the change creation emerges in three phases thought word deed so the act of thinking it is step one of creation the act of saying it runs the vibration through your body and you understand simatics you're actually energizing your cells with the vibration that's congruent with the intention of your positive statement in your dream so when you state that positive and you emotionalize it the act of holding the coin and flipping it brings you into deed and because that's a motor act you're bringing it right down into your brain stem spinal cord and your muscles and you literally wear it so now I'm going to go back to the story of me and boxing okay remember I said we spent hours and hours doing the most basic ridiculous drills well boxers used to say to the coach why do we have to do this we've been boxing for years we're experts you know have to ah why do we have to do this and the coaches would always say because if somebody knocks you out on your feet your body needs to know how to fight when your head's not there so what I say to my patients and my students when I keep repeating things over and over to them and they say how do you keep saying that I say have you ever cut the head off of a chicken with an ax and let it go and a lot of them you know six or eight people in a room of 40 or 50 say yes I have I say what happens to the chicken does this fall over dead or does it run across the yard with blood squirting everywhere they say oh it it runs across the yard I say I have a question for you how did it run across the yard without its head unless it knows how to move its body at the level of the spinal cord and the body itself doesn't that mean the information on how to run is below the brain yes well that's what you do when you repeat things over and over again that are dream affirmative you bring it out of the head you just talked about and you embody it so the act of flipping the coin takes the belief that you associate with the dream and it embodies it so that when your head's busy your body knows what to do which is why I teach my patients their first assignment and my students and in spirit gym the first thing you learn Spirit gym if you watch any of my calls we're going to sing each of the songs I wrote for the four doctors four times a day every day until you can do it drunk stoned walking backwards and unconscious because that's your codee and when you're when you make that in your and this is what a myth is and this is why they acted out and ritualized and sang so that it became an unconscious guidance system so here's an example Dr happy is the dreamer Dr happy is the dreamer Dr happy is the dreamer don't you know Dr happy sets your rhythms your rhythms set your pressure and your rhythms and your pressure make your flow and your rhythms and your pressure make your flow ho ho so what did I just say Dr happy is the dreamer if you're not happy you're not dreaming you're giving yourself a nightmare Dr happy sets your rhythms because if you understand Dr happiness is a response for Dr Diet Doctor movement and Doctor quiet that is what you establish throughout your day your daily Rhythm your Rhythm sets your pressure what happens when your rhythms are too fast or too flow your sense of pressure is off because you're out of balance if you try to stack too much into a day you get too hyper your blood pressure goes up your heart rate goes up and you end up at a doctor's office so your rhythms set your pressure and your rhythms and your pressure make your flow see if you're under a lot of pressure to get something done but you love to do it that's what Han Seely called use stress useful stress growing you yeah preparing for this podcast is that for me which is I'm happy to do it yeah if you're under pressure cuz you're in the gym but you want to make something beautiful out of yourself that's useful stress yeah but if you're in distress it breaks you down so your rhythms and your pressure the type of pressure if it's not dream affirmative pressure it's not building you it's breaking you down so your rhythms and your pressure make your flow what's your flow it's your sense of how things are going in your life how's the flow of your day how's the flow of your relationship how's the flow of your money how's the flow of your sex life you know we when we see someone dancing beautifully they have a beautiful flow they're in the groove when someone's great at lifting weights they know how to find the groove a great athlete knows how to find the groove they're in their flow what is a flow State it's not thinking it's beyond thinking it's what you were just talking about so your rhythms and your pressure FL set your flow ho ho Santa Claus has delivered the truth right me I could go through all the songs but you see I wrote these songs knowing that for thousands of years years we learned by verbal communication by singing and by memorizing myths and the key things that were essential for survival we didn't write down in fact a lot of the greatest teachers said as soon as you start writing stuff down you're going to ruin people's ability to learn because they're not going to embody it they're going to have it on a notebook and forget all about yeah externalize it yep so you see when you sing it you go through thought word deed so do diet build your temple a body for your mind you raise and eat your food with love it makes your Chemistry add good water and a smile be filled with with energy eat good Organics and be wise you are what you eat eat good Organics and be wise you are what you eat you are what you eat yum yum do movement animates life do movement animates life do movement is the Sun and the Moon the Sun and the Moon the sun where works out the moon works in the sun works out the moon Works in and that determines the temperature you are in woo the balance of those two doctors determines the temperature in what do we got right now a worldwide epidemic of metabolic syndrome inflammatory syndromes people that are overheated and falling apart and every biochemical reaction in your body is temperature dependent so you can tell how healthy a person is at a general level by the temperature of their body too cold you got hypothyroid issues too hot you got inflammatory issues or you're overly excited or you're overly stressed or you're breaking down okay Dr quiet she is Yin know how she loves to bring energy in Dr quiet she is Yin know how she loves to bring energy in she teaches you how to rest so your energy is always at its best hey there you go they need to teach these in in in in school elementary school I've got a couple of my students are School teachers they've started four doctor's clubs but my point is in spirit gym my spirit Gym training program that's your first job is to sing those songs four times a day every day till you can do it singing walk backwards stoned and drunk choose your drug you should still be able to do it and if you don't have the discipline to sing those four doctor songs four times a day you will never have the discipline to go through the metamorphosis of a real spiritual growth and development process Paul thank you for this coin I'm going to use it you'll be surprised how powerful it is thank you man this podcast has been so nourishing so fulfilling so deep and I'm sure we'll have many in the future to continue down all these Explorations I hope so I just want to make yeah I just want to make space for sharing a little bit about Spirit gy where people can find your work we'll link everything down in the description below sure well a couple of things uh the institute's website which has lots of things like online training programs my uh we have an online training program uh based on my book how eat move and be healthy which I believe the program is now called eat move and be healthy uh for the public that's our public program we have holistic lifestyle coach level one which is also a public program uh so it's a step more comprehensive um my book how to eat move and be healthy is on Amazon you can get it anywhere um I we publish it ourself it's where this is our 20th anniversary everything in it is exactly true to this very day because it's all based on Basics and fundamental principles we've sold over 230,000 copies which is a lot for a self-published book um so you can get that anywhere which is really like essential and it's probably the only book in the world that I know of that you go through a series of questionnaires that analyze how much stress you have in Key Systems in the body and then you can follow the directions and it tells you which chapters to read and apply which muscles to stretch which joints to mobilize and any one, people use the book you can get a thousand different programs out of it so it shows you how to customize the use of the book specifically for you as an individual Spirit gim is myp jim.com so that's a one it's based on a one-year subscription program which you can either buy UPF front then you have full access to all the master key lessons which cover all the things you need to understand to have a legitimate spiritual growth practice to get yourself healthy it includes the six Foundation principles the four doctors and much more it's really a combination of Health Basics but it gives you a metaphysical structure so I call it a metam myth structure so that it doesn't matter whether you're an atheist a Christian a Muslim or whoever you are it takes you through the principles that are ESS poal to understand because they're what makes a story live and breathe and it allows you to have time to ask yourself is it working for me is my religion working for me is my this or that Dogma working for me is it true that everybody should be a vegetarian is it working for me uh is it true you should just eat a pile of meat you know there's two sides to every coin right so in essence it's based on 10 principles principle of one is being so what does it mean to be in a state of being what is being two Duality so then you get into the function of the Mind subject object Duality um lover beloved um I thou um so it shows you how Duality is at work and why Duality is essential to Consciousness three is the dreaming Trinity so it shows you how all the world religions had holy trinities many Sciences have them many philosophies have them but it shows you what the Holy Trinity is why it's an archetype and why it's always at work and if you're unconscious it works just as well as when you're conscious so it manifests your unconscious dreams as nightmares as well as dreams um so I show you how Spirit manifests itself in form for is the principle of forward it's the principle of completion it's the principle of wholeness it is the elements earth water fire and Earth so how does the dreaming Trinity of the three manifest in the four which is embodiment um there's many fours such as the cycle of om AU M underscore there's the four life process archetypes child warrior king queen wise man that we all can evolve through so some of them have multiple applications the principle of the five is the five program design factors that you must address to develop a health effective program physically emotionally mentally or spiritually it's also the principle of the archetype five in Tarot the hierophant what is a real spiritual guide or a real Mentor how do you know when you need one and what are the qualities you're looking for and the five also deals with hegel's thesis anti-thesis synthesis process so the five is the anti-thesis stage you fall in love you think you're going to live happily ever after but five years later you're fighting like cats and dogs there's the anti-thesis you come up with a dream for a cool widget you think you're going to save the world you go into production and testing and the thing keeps breaking down you realize the materials you used aren't good enough or the FDA has some law so you have to go through the antithesis St so it shows you how to go through the challenge of a process and get to synthesis and the importance of rest after each cycle and also correlates to the hero's journey the six is nutrition hydration sleep breathing thinking and movement so I have lessons on each of those sometimes multiple lessons such as the mind there's multiple lessons I got two lessons on hydration because the importance of water the seven is the principle of the soul and the spirit so I show you what the seven chakras are how they function how they integrate with the body and what is the soul and what is the spirit and why is that important to understand eight is the principle of self-reflection so you understand the importance of introspection meditation and deepening your relationship with yourself and Shadow work and how to go about doing it nine is a new state of awareness so now that you've been practicing this for a while and you're awake on a new level how do you keep that going and not fall back into your habit patterns or fall off the wagon as the AA people would say and 10 is a new level of being so now you've completed one growth and development cycle or you've gone through one hero's journey cycle so how do you celebrate that and go into a red dreaming state so 10 means you're at the beginning of a new cycle but before you jump into just anything how do you spend some time with your soul and get clear guidance on what the next authentic expression of your unique self is so there's about uh close to 70 lessons probably something around 60 to 100 hours of online training and we meet each week and I guide you through new lessons new tactics new approaches and I also reinforce some of the key learning points and then I open the floor for answering I let you have access to me as your Mentor for whatever is going on in your life from Health to relationship to to questions on the lessons to anything that I can support you with and we all get to learn how to apply these principles by because almost everybody's got a problem that somebody else has so by being in the in the in the songa is what I call it you get to see how I address somebody with depression or someone who is having a hard time accessing their soul and I also have mentors so if a question comes up that's too deep for me to really have the time to focus on a mentor can take you on on the side into a breakout room and on zoom and then they can spend more time with you and if you want you can hire the mentor for private therapy or coaching and so it's really a system I designed to say hey it's better to dream awake than be unconscious it's better to do what you love to do it's better to understand the basic principles of how to be a healthy person so you can express your Soul's genius in the world and here are the master key principles master key is actually a key that I designed that is once you master these 10 principles you have the key to any door you can create whatever you want and you're um going to grow efficiently as a spiritual person and you will grow from sex and violence love to conditional love to empathetic and passionate love and compassion to unconditional love and you know that's really enlightened you know what I show my students is something quite interesting they say well you know how do you know when you're enlightened I said well one you're lighter in your step you don't carry so much baggage two if you look at the word Evolution which by definition means little uh to Big you start off small and you get bigger and bigger you your evolution of knowledge you get more and more knowledge involution is Big to little if you look at the word evolution if you write it down I don't have a p piece of paper and a pen but you can write the word Evolution down write it in big letters and leave a little space between the letters and then if you read it backwards you'll see n o put a dash there you'll see it t put a dash there then you'll see youu put a dash before and after the U and then you'll see lve and if you read it backward it says know it you love so when you have evolved to be enlightened you don't love the chicken or the sports car or the gold in the bank any more or less than you love life itself because you know it's all God manifesting and all of it is the Divine and there is no it you love anymore and you are free from the bondage of possession and dogma and belief systems and you just look at the show and say there's God right in front of inside you you're eating sleeping breathing and pooping God you're walking on God you're Waring with God you're hugging God you're giving birth to God you're drinking God you're eating God and you say wow what an amazing magic trick and that is M AIC K that's God's magic M AIC is always slight of hand there's always a trick you can learn to trick people with magic but when you understand m a i okay you see natural magic you see God's dream manifesting in you as you and through you and all of us and so the goal is to get to where there's no it you love Paul Maestro Paul man this uh you know when you spend your whole life looking into things you figure a few things out and you know I don't I don't really think of myself as a maestro uh you know I didn't do well in school but I did ask good questions and get in a lot of trouble you figured out a couple things a couple things you know I thank you man I just have an insatiable appetite to know I know I feel that self-evident in this conversation and uh I'm just very grateful for it I know this conversation is going to be supportive to a lot of people it has been for me and also just thank you for the generosity of bringing books and the Tai Chi ruler and this coin and I just feel the intentionality that we both put into this conversation and and I'm immensely grateful for you new soul brother you have me as an ally to support you not way I can and uh just just so thankful for you coming out today hey you know I brought you the gifts because I've seen enough of your podcast to say there's God doing what God loves to do and there's someone who's really doing their best to make the world a better place for all living beings now and in the future and and I have to acknowledge and support that and to me love is a boomerang so those gifts are love Boomerang coming back to say I'm watching thank you AO great spirit AO man thank you man thank you thank you thank you for seeing me and uh it's been a joy to see you appreciate it much love brother can't wait till you come to my house and stacks some rocks let you have a little play in my garden in my library and oh man that sounds like an absolute dream see what the wild man's really up to I will be there no doubt no doubt man yes my spirit oh my podcast too is Spirit jim. I mean sorry Spirit Jim with Paul Che it used to be living 4D but I changed the name to spirit gy with Paul Che with the L of spirit gy and um I mean you've listened to lots of my podcasts it seems like I know you got all the books from the last one yeah and um that I broke into the public version which is free which is usually an hour to an hour and a half and then the membership version which is I think $7.99 investment for the month and you you know how deep I go in these things so deep yeah you guys want endless rabbit holes that will benefit your life and and everyone around you because of the knowledge that you learn uh spe gy and the podcast and the book and everything we we'll link down in the description man it's just and that's at paul.com amazing paul.com is kind of the place you go if you want to kind of get a general read on all the things I'm doing from a Blog to speaking and you you know it's just kind of like the Hub but mysp jim.com is for the spirit Jim program paul.com is General Czech Institute is my Educational Institute thank you so much Paul is there anything else before we sign off just that I love you and I'm grateful for you and all the great guests you've had on and your beautiful assistant and your the beautiful environment you've created here and the great tea you gave me and the great water and uh just the the what a magical share and one for the books oh oh see you soon all right till next time be well everyone [Music]