this is star [Music] talk let's move on to Brandon wow God you guys you can't see Chuck's face but he's a back he has taken a back he has been taken okay Brandon Brandon this better be good I got a feeling it is a aaran Brandon a aaran aaman cun okay I think I think I got it Brandon says hey Bill considering you've been on both sides of the argument on GMOs can you in your opinion I don't know whose else opinion you would do it I'm very good at mine yeah uh list the most beneficial and nonbeneficial reasons for GMOs oo nice one uh Mr uh oh he spelled it out phonetically here aan aan so uh Mr a here's the deal he wants you to play your own Devil's Advocate yeah good and bad yeah so as they say the good thing ladies and gentlemen Bill NY pro and con uh the good side is we get more yield for per hectare or acre okay one so in other words we have less uh impactful farming in other words we affect the ecosystem less because we'll produce more food on less land that's the upside of genetically modified we're using biology to fight pests and disease is rather than chemistry that's two four so that's good the unintended Consequence the classic one is either the things you don't know to not to go all uh misguided military principle uh policy on you but the unknowns the known unknowns the known unknowns like well you don't know what you're going to do but the the one that everybody has observed is the monarch butterflies where we have reduce their population 90% not as a consequence exactly of raising genetically modified food but by using this extraordinarily effective herbicide that has killed the milk flowers or milk weeds which nourish the monarchs so an un unintended consequence there and so are there ones that you don't know are there other insects and pollinators that you affected accidentally by messing up their food source and the other unintended consequence uh and not a necessary one is by monoculture farming enormous tracks of a single type of plant make it very hard for be bees as pollinators to get the job done they got to go out there do that one crop then there's nothing to do and somebody puts them back in a box and puts them on a truck and takes them to a different crop and they just get beaten up they can't handle it but this is not necessar bees coming home stressed out they do they are babe God what a day I got to tell you you should have seen it it's stressed and onever it's a girl voice oh that's correct cuz all the bees are female all the ones that yeah so go go ahead do it again honey I just can't believe the day I had I'm telling you this is just awful those fields hoptrap yes all right Chuck Nice is a four-winged fly all right so uh uh the unintended consequences are things like the monarch butterflies and this monocultural farming which affects the pollinators and our whole agriculture system so these are things that are avoidable gotcha so it's good bad but it's manageable and I think it's just a necessary consequence when you're going to have 7.2 billion people become 9.2 billion people you're going to have to do something to feed them and indeed we all prefer the texture taste and nutrients from nominally uh hybridized crops over the last 10,000 years and this Modern biotechnological Way of modifying is just the next thing humans are doing gotcha so all right that was great to see you uh argue both sides there and basically the the the biggest problem is the unknowns as well that's it that's what you want to avoid but you can't do it until you do it you can't know until you do it though but humans have been doing this for centuries you know we try this plant it doesn't work so we try that plant and so the claim is believe me I've been there yeah so the claim is that you do it very carefully and so for those of you tuned into our previous episode I talked about these guys are able to ask these people are able to ask say or sequence jeans literally 10 million times faster I know than they could even a decade ago fantastic it's amazing 10 million times and the reason is people have invested in the techn people Engineers who have developed the technology worked really hard on it because there's so much uh to be so much gain to be had M and everybody prefers delicious corn to not delicious corn everybody prefers delicious apples or good tasting apples not to single out of particular flavor I do like the red delicious I'm a honey crisp man myself I'm down with honey crisp yeah but I I will remind everybody there's two things about red delicious that I really like which are they're red okay and they're delicious yes I like my Galas yeah gas are okay I like the BR bur yeah the bray burs all right too uh I'm not a big Granny Smith guy but I'll choke it down so anyway with that said uh when it comes to genetically modified food or crops we just have to be D okay so here's the deal requires regulation now see now you lost me man I'm a republican I'm I'm All against the regulation of any kind sorry okay okay so I'll watch for you when the lights red exactly this is Star Talk [Music]