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Exploring Consciousness and Quantum Mechanics
Nov 11, 2024
Lecture on Consciousness and Quantum Mechanics
Introduction
Speaker
: Roger
Background
: Doctorate in neurophysiology
Topic
: Exploring consciousness at the quantum level instead of traditional neuronal activities.
Traditional View of Consciousness
Consciousness typically explained through neuronal activities.
Focus on synapses, neuronal spiking, and generalized brain electrical activity.
Assumption: Consciousness must be explained at the level of neuronal behavior.
Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness
Roger's Perspective
: Real activity possibly occurs at the quantum level.
Reasoning
: Understanding is non-computational, requiring non-computational physics.
Gap
: How quantum systems transition to classical systems remains a significant puzzle.
Quantum to Classical Transition
Missing physics in the transition might be non-computational.
Brain must sustain a quantum system to leverage this new physics.
Challenge: Quantum systems often become environmentally decoherent, losing relevant information.
Microtubules and Quantum Coherence
Stuart Hameroff’s Contribution
: Proposed microtubules as a potential site for quantum coherence.
Microtubules
: Small, symmetrical structures potentially capable of maintaining quantum coherence.
Initial Skepticism
: Roger was initially unfamiliar with microtubules, but found the idea promising after further investigation.
Neuronal Influence and Synaptic Strength
Microtubules possibly control synaptic strength and maintain global coherence during conscious will.
Global coherence could involve the concerted action of many neurons, not limited to a single microtubule.
Quantum Mechanics in the Brain
Need for coherence in quantum mechanics to influence neuronal behavior.
Objective Reduction (OR)
: Quantum state collapses to one alternative; must be orchestrated globally.
Classical expression necessary for neuronal impulse and consciousness.
Opposing Views on Consciousness and Quantum Physics
Some theories suggest consciousness reduces quantum states, opposing Roger's view.
Eugene Wigner's View
: Consciousness reduces quantum states; Schrodinger's cat is an example.
Roger's View
: Consciousness emerges from physical processes in the universe.
Consciousness as Fundamental
Some argue consciousness is a fundamental, irreducible aspect of the world.
Quantum mechanics might need consciousness to explain certain phenomena.
Conclusion
Roger's Stance
: Consciousness emerges from physics required for other reasons, without needing conscious intervention in quantum mechanics.
Rejection of the belief in a cosmic consciousness affecting quantum mechanics.
Final Thoughts
Discussion on quantum mechanics remains ongoing and multifaceted.
Various interpretations exist regarding consciousness and its relationship to quantum physics.
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