Scots Way Hay Podcast with Leila Abulela

Introduction

• Host welcomes Leila Abulela, author of "River Spirit."
• Leila discusses growing up in Khartoum, Sudan.
• Connection between Sudan and Scotland explored through historical narrative.

Background of "River Spirit"

• Set in Sudan during the 1870s-1880s, under the Ottoman Empire.
• Sudanese grievances against oppressive rule led to revolt.

Key Historical Figure

• Muhammad Al-Mahdi: Claimed to be a promised savior in Islamic tradition.
  • Led Sudanese revolt; charismatic and trusted by followers.

British Involvement

• General Charles Gordon: British officer brought in to suppress the revolt.
  • Failed to defend Khartoum; was besieged and killed.

Themes and Narrative Style

• Focus on ordinary people amidst historical events.
• Use of fictional characters rather than altering historical facts.

Characters

• Zamzam: Inspired by a real bill of sale found in research.
  • Represents ordinary Sudanese life and perspective.
• Robert: Scottish painter representing cultural clash and empire attraction.
  • Illustrates misunderstanding and cultural differences.

Historical Fiction Writing

• Balance between historical accuracy and fictional storytelling.
• Historical facts are maintained; fiction explores deeper, personal narratives.

Research Process

• Significant research done through Sudan archives in Durham.
• Discovery of bills of sale and other documents influencing character development.

Cultural Context

• Discussion on differences between East African and transatlantic slavery.
  • East African slavery more domestic; quicker assimilation compared to West.
• Exploration of cultural clashes and misunderstandings in historical context.

Modern Relevance

• Themes of cultural clashes and rebellion against oppression resonate with modern issues.
• Echoes of historical events in contemporary conflicts.

Impact of Historical Events

• Influence of historical events on individual lives explored through fiction.
• Personal struggles and cultural identity are key focal points.

Conclusion

• Leila's writing bridges her Sudanese heritage and Scottish residency.
• Continued interest in exploring colonial history through fiction.

Additional Context

• Changes in Aberdeen's cultural scene noted.
• Improvement in diversity and artistic presence in the city.

Closing

• Leila expresses gratitude for the conversation.
• Podcast to return with different guests.