Chris Cuomo Project: Interview with Bassem Youssef

something special for you today on the Chris Cuomo project bessam Yousef okay look him up he was called the John Steward of Egypt and that is High Praise but he is more than that we&#39;re going to have a conversation today that&#39;s going to make a lot of people uncomfortable but for the right reasons this is not empty provocation it&#39;s about the Middle East and it&#39;s about the head and heart of Arab people Palestinian people where they&#39;re coming from I&#39;ve talked to you often about where Israeli people are coming from the existential fear what it means to see images of people who say they want to kill you and destroy you burn Jewish bodies that is a very powerful message that I believe was sent intentionally to the Jewish people but there aren&#39;t just two sides to the situation there are like five and there&#39;s Humanity that runs throughout all of it now bessim Yousef grew up in Egypt he understands the politics of the region he understands the history of the region in a way that is exceptional extraordinary not as a comedian not as a cardiothoracic surgeon that he is but as a student of the world and as somebody who is in pain because of what&#39;s happening in the Middle East who has family trapped in a home in Gaza who has lost people he knows in Gaza I believe that everybody who is open knows that what&#39;s happening in the Middle East has to stop that whatever the answer is which to me is unknown it can&#39;t be this and it can&#39;t be this almost insane notion that it can&#39;t stop until Israel eradicates Hamas like we eradicated Isis like we eradicated Terror in the war on terrorism you don&#39;t beat an idea by destroying the people who believe it you beat it with a better idea something that entices people more than the desperation that led them to the extremism we know this we know this from our own experience so I&#39;m not carrying water for anything other than the obvious idea that this has to end because there&#39;s too much death there&#39;s too much fear and there&#39;s too little promise of anything better anytime soon to come so this is a conversation with one very intelligent person who lived the experience and is very very worried about the politics and the power plays involved and me with what I&#39;ve seen what I&#39;ve learned and what I want to ask of someone with a point of view in this situation a lot of it is going to be hard for you to hear especially if you believe that Israel is under constant threat and has to be doing what it&#39;s doing right now and is Justified in doing so you&#39;re going to be upset if you&#39;re an American and you identify with the pro Palestinian movement as an aspect of Oppression it&#39;s a long conversation it&#39;s nuanced a lot of people are going to take bites and spin it out of context we&#39;ll deal with that as it happens but it&#39;s a conversation that has to happen again and again and again because it&#39;s the only way we&#39;ll get to a better place so here is bosim Yousef who is a great comedian is touring all over the country right now he was literally chased out of Egypt he kept doing his show and talking about oppression and tickling power as the Netflix documentary about him is called even when the Egyptian State said he had to stop or they would stop him he still did it and then he fled to the United States and he&#39;s had to start all over again here it&#39;s an amazing story it&#39;s uniquely American and his perspective on what&#39;s happening in the Middle East needs to be heard not that you accept it not that you understand all of it the way he does not that you agree but that you listen please do that here is bosam Yousef in a conversation that we need to [Music] have bessam how do you explain how explosive and massive the reaction to your comments about what&#39;s happening in the Middle East were with Piers Morgan and all over the Internet afterwards well there&#39;s two explanation number one luck No Such Thing number two number two I&#39;ll be very honest about it I think and I think I told this piers on his show there is a whole group of people in this world that they haven&#39;t had the chance to have their voice heard or their point of view came across because honestly when our side of the story get brought up they either being bullied into not putting out their words or they get their buttons pushed so they will come up as angry brown people I&#39;ll be very honest and the thing is it this whole Topic in the Middle East is very emotional so when you try it&#39;s a it&#39;s it&#39;s it&#39;s very difficult to navigate the thing so not to fall into the emotional roller coaster and try to speak calmly and so that&#39;s why in the second interview I was like trying to I I don&#39;t want to score points when I sit with someone I I don&#39;t want to prove that you&#39;re wrong because you&#39;re coming here you&#39;ve already had your mind made up over years and years and years I&#39;m not coming here to change your mind I think that&#39;s the problem of how people get into the quarrels because we put our egos ahead of us oh it&#39;s like I have to prove to them it&#39;s like I&#39;m coming here let&#39;s say for examp me and you we talk about anything I don&#39;t know Israel Palestine the NBA which team is better you I I learned something that I need to come across to just EXP explain my point of view and it&#39;s up to you and up to the people watching and listening for them to decide for themselves is that too idealistic given the realities not just in the Middle East but in America one of the problems we&#39;re having in processing what&#39;s happening there is that it&#39;s being filtered through the game of Advantage between the two parties it&#39;s not a coincidence that the pro Palestinian and anything that even becomes exaggerated from that in America is all left and on the right you have the most staunch Pro Zionist pro-israeli it&#39;s by design for Advantage everything in America gets split down the middle how do you break through that to get to a point of understanding well first of all uh the problem is there&#39;s the problem of the media because now people are do not have any um space for listening so it&#39;s all about sunbites and just like who wins and it it&#39;s become Sensational it becomes like people in the Coliseum fighting it&#39;s like and then it&#39;s become die die die die there&#39;s no the the the there&#39;s no space for an Nuance conversation it&#39;s just like who gets the sound bites who gets the thing and I have to slightly disagree with you because there&#39;s a lot of the pro Zionist are on the left big time there&#39;s a lot of people who like Joe Biden he is a Democrat and he people are asking just cease fire and a lot of people who are on the bankroll of APAC are actually Democrats so it&#39;s not really a left to right thing yes well everybody was pro-israel in America um both parties the leaders uh the money the influence was too great for anybody to abandon it but don&#39;t you think that the right kind of edged ahead even before this most recent conflict moving the consulate to Jerusalem and Trump being so much more of a vocal BB Ally and more much more so than Biden certainly as a vestage of the Obama Administration it seems now that if you were to point to one of the two parties and say which one is more pro-israel people would say the GOP not the Democrat absolutely but there&#39;s two things number one there&#39;s something about a little bit of a hypocritical side of how the GOP deals this because most of the pro-israel pro Zionist are anti-semites it&#39;s crazy you really believe they&#39;re anti-semites who who can remember forget MTG you know like like about that like the whole like Jewish laser guns a lot of people who a lot of people Pro would go out and say Jews not replace Us in Charlottesville so there is this this crazy split and Netanyahu is Friends of all of those people the pro Z but they&#39;re very antiem they hate the Jews and they love Israel and you know why they do that right it&#39;s all because of the SEC the Rapture the second coming of Jesus all they are like they when we talk about Zionism I don&#39;t even think about Jewish people because most of the Jewish people are actually on our side Jewish voices for peace there&#39;s Bernie Sanders all it&#39;s not a Jewish thing it is a zist thing most of the most Zionist people are actually Christian Zionist and they&#39;re pushing the whole like the whole world for a Brink because of this there&#39;s like this book called forcing the God&#39;s hands Incredible Book It Was Written 1998 and it they&#39;re talking about the dispensationalists and it and how they&#39;re like they basically made it a self professing prophecy and those people who believe in the second Rapture they believe that all Jews will be killed and only 14 40,000 people will remain and they all go and follow Christ it is dogmatic and it&#39;s crazy in a country that is liberal and secular than the United States so it I I talk about a lot to people the Democratic party and they are very upset about the leadership which is Biden and how and and and secretary blinkin which is like a disgrace uh his yeah I mean we&#39;re going to take get to that like later but it is it is yes it is a part of its right and left but now as much as I&#39;m one of those people I would vote blue no matter who I will never give my voice to Biden after what what he&#39;s done so then what do you do if you&#39;re blue no matter who and the who is Biden and you won&#39;t vote for him what do you do I I I will hit that one out seriously and I&#39;m and it it it&#39;s crazy because I became an American citizen in this country and I&#39;m so happy to vote and America it took America four years to give me get to check out of the elections because if you are continue supporting a daily killing there and you&#39;re not even like wanting to put the the light slightest effect to Stop The Killing why would I vote for you and then they come back and they blackmail us it&#39;s like but Reproductive Rights at least if a woman in Tennessee cannot have reprodu you can travel to California New York to do it those people in G have nowhere to go so it and and it&#39;s always been like the Democratic party blaming the minorities for for the because they the Democratic party gave us the promise that we are on your side but in reality they are not because here you have a war 27,000 kids 27,000 Palestinians killed 100,000 being injured 70% of the homes you did this this uh show with the um Abdu jaar the the the the the the the father and and you gave him the space and I really appreciate because and this guy is an American citizen he&#39;s not even in Gaza and his son was killed for throwing and he&#39;s not even throw the stone and even if he thrw a stone he should not be killed so we don&#39;t know that he threw any stones but even if he did does he deserve to get shots no no no that&#39;s that should be simple no but I don&#39;t like the suggestion not from you um but the father even put it out there that you know they say he threw rocks look it doesn&#39;t the fact scenario doesn&#39;t make any sense the lack of Investigation the things that he told me they said to him when they came to the house he wanted his son&#39;s personal effects he says one of the soldiers threw the wallet on the ground and said go ahead reach for it and I&#39;ll send you the same place I sent your son now oh he&#39;s probably lying well how Why th this is his son the guy&#39;s an American he&#39;s not anti-am he is American I look I I I think that it&#39;s so easy for people if I were to look at how people blame me for things you&#39;re an IDF shill you uh you are you hate the Jews you go you know it goes back and forth because we&#39;re in a place now where if I&#39;m not agreeing with you all the time I&#39;m your enemy and so many things you use the word nuance uh yes complex situations if the Middle East isn&#39;t complex what is there&#39;s never a single Factor explanation here&#39;s a a thing I&#39;ve been thinking about lately on this but I don&#39;t want to lose my point which is don&#39;t you need a platform I know you&#39;re doing shows you know bess&#39;s all over the country doing his comedy um which is is a great act uh you can watch like I do online you can find Clips all over the place of bessam MF but yeah and you coming to my show in New Jersey no way I don&#39;t go to New Jersey what if I&#39;m an Italian from Queens I don&#39;t go to Jersey I know but I&#39;m doing my show there come on where is it New Jersey a performer Art Center in the 16th February we sold out the first show it&#39;s 3,000 cat we already sold out the first we have to come can you get me a seat to the first show oh [ __ ] yeah all right that&#39;s I&#39;ll get you a fe on the on on on the stage I like special treatment I&#39;m I&#39;m going to give you like a box and I&#39;m easy to make fun of no no no no I want you I want you to come to the we look like cousins anyway you know Mediterranean baby Italian and we got we got the hair going we&#39;re we&#39;re we&#39;re across the the Mediterranean um so when I watch the pier thing I I&#39;ve known Pierce Morgan for a long time I actually um was after him at CNN when Piers left I wound up having Pi&#39;s slot and I spoke to him uh I saw him in the UK at some point and it was such a shock to me how resonant it was not because didn&#39;t make sense not because it wasn&#39;t Cogen or anything it was just such a hunger and then you know you had the whole rematch face off which I I loved uh that he went out to see you in LA and it was great but I was very surprised that after that you didn&#39;t seek a new platform for yourself to discuss issues that are ongoing in that regard why haven&#39;t you uh I know you&#39;re doing your show but I am everything is new to me uh when I left Egypt in 2014 and I came here I lost everything I have nothing and I had to start all over again and only 5 years ago I started doing standup comedy in English and at the beginning it was bad of course because you start something new in B I&#39;m 5 years old in that in comedy tell that&#39;s your age how long you&#39;ve been doing comedy 5 years you&#39;re 5 years old so I&#39;m still an an infant so I&#39;m I still got my hour kind of like tight and now I have all of these tour dates and I&#39;m doing it so everything is coming down very quickly and I&#39;m between like I want to sell my special I want to tour and also I want to take time my time in the platform because a I don&#39;t want to be you know how people will say oh you&#39;re capitalizing on that thing you&#39;re doing that but I don&#39;t I I I I didn&#39;t want to I don&#39;t want to be put in a position where I&#39;m an activist because I was politically burned in Egypt because people put that much pressure on me I was guys I&#39;m a comedian you can watch a documentary about it it&#39;s called Uh tickling Giants yes and uh it&#39;s very interesting I followed it as it was happening um and I was surprised you know I didn&#39;t expect the Americans to be outraged by it uh you know the the moniker for bessim was that he was Egypt&#39;s John Stewart and Stewart embraced uh you he&#39;s has been his own comeback here now um uh by choice and the work here&#39;s the thing can you uh be exploiting a situation for Advantage yes that&#39;s also known as America uh but this is necessary Bess I know and and this is why I would rather come on shows like yours come to to kind of like speak to the audience your audience because because your audience and peer&#39;s audience and other people audience I&#39;m not doing this to speak to my people I don&#39;t want to be preaching to the choir I want to cross the A and speak to people about things that they have believed for so long and maybe we can have a logical non-emotional discussion about because what happened is full of emotions but when you break it down you&#39;re a reporter I respect that so much because you can go to things that extremely emotional and then you can call me dissected the same way that I&#39;m a doctor I had people coming like blood everywhere I have to have my I cannot get my emotions ahead of me because I need to know where is the source of bleeding so this is why card thasc surgeon you know this this whole area and he&#39;s also certified in the United States it&#39;s always good to know a doctor yeah um yeah I&#39;m uh people used to pay me money to stab them in the chest so anyway so so so so I I want to reach out I want I want to speak to anybody everybody I will go to to to someone who completely opposed and I want us to be uncomfortable talking about everything talking about stuff that we have believed for many years for example a lot of people say Israel is America&#39;s friend Israel is for supporting Israel is for the best interest and I want to challenge that because there has been now as an American citizen I don&#39;t think Israel is a good friend will it be will can you call a country a friend if they have a spy Jonathan polard who spied an American and he he was an American he was not Israeli he took a life sentence in 1987 and just to spite the United States 1995 Israel gave him the Israeli citizenship while he was in jail that&#39;s a Spite and then he was released 2020 on a on a private jet sponsored by an American billionaire you know Sheldon Adon Adon Adon and he was greeted at the airport by Benyamin Netanyahu what kind of message do you give the people is the big Republican yes but like what kind of message if the head of Israel is is is is receiving like a hero that okay what about the herok affair 1950 1954 where where where herok was an atach in Israeli Embassy and he was recruiting spies when American soul and he was tipped off that ifbi is coming to him he escaped and how he was rewarded two times Israeli president 19983 1993 and he&#39;s the president of the the father of the current president today how can you call a country if the Apollo Affair where rafian an Israeli spy stole 206 enriched uranium from newc how can you call them how can you call a country that would that committed terrorist attack killing an American citizen in American Oil American soil and then they fled to Israel and they not the jdl 1985 Alex Oda he was Christian Palestinian American and he was assassinated by three members of the jdl and they escaped to Israel and America could not get them back because Israel does not want to deliver how how can you call if someone who commit an attempted assassination on an American Diplomat John Gunther Dean our ambassador in Lebanon and he wrote it in his Memoir and he said they and and the American the American did not investigate it what is the most lethal attack on American Naval vessel in history in the Middle East USS Co how many people died I don&#39;t remember but a lot I went and cover how many people injured 37 but that&#39;s not the most lethal the most lethal attack on American Naval V was USS Liberty 9th of June 1967 they were attacked by the Israeli Army and they killed 34 American soldiers injured 171 and they paid $6 million in compensation this is how worth the American lives it is to them that can we call this a friend yes and here&#39;s why okay because it&#39;s messy and it&#39;s a relative assessment and you have the largest Jewish population outside of Israel is in America and they&#39;re people of Pride and prominence uh and the connection politically and culturally has always been strong and it&#39;s a relative assessment you make a checklist going back to the 1950s of what Israel has done that was wrong and now you have to compare it to everybody else in the region that is of any value to you and you wind up with Israel being at the top of the Heap and look I don&#39;t have any problem I I I don&#39;t think the issue is that Israel has been misunderstood as an ally and they&#39;re an enemy I don&#39;t think that&#39;s what it is I think it&#39;s what do you do when your allies are in bad situations and there situations that are at least in part of their own causing what do you do the problem is right now the American answer is absolutely nothing or as little as possible because America&#39;s population is exhausted support for the Chris Cuomo project comes from factor I got to tell you this stuff is good I like it and if you&#39;re a meal prepper okay but if you&#39;re a meal prepper wannabe and on the go but you want to get your gains and want your Macros in place this works they sent me a bunch of them I tried them the kids liked them my wife liked them she liked the ingredients on the back she like the nutritional information okay Chef crafted dietician approved right to your door 35 different options and not just in terms of variety 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doing them right so get 40% off your first order of Sundays go to Sundays 4dogs Chris or use the code Chris at [Music] checkout let&#39;s analyze it from the beginning not in terms of historical rep reciprocity but on October 8th 7th 8th what should have happened what do you believe should have been the series of events that would have led us to a better place than we&#39;re in now well here&#39;s the problem with they discussing this you always reset the clock at October 7th always but here&#39;s why but you&#39;re missing what what what let I&#39;m not missing I know that the reason remember the video that they circulated about you those punk ass why people on their pages on the right they&#39;re they did they judge you for your reaction yes but they didn&#39;t talk about what they have been doing to before that&#39;s exactly right and I get it October 7th didn&#39;t happen in a vacuum I totally understand but but it&#39;s also about your standard of what kind of retaliation you will submit to as a natural consequence there&#39;s no question that there is a state of Oppression in what&#39;s happening in Palestine Israelis will mention that in polls they&#39;ll say that they don&#39;t like the way it is um except for BB&#39;s government and his ministers which is I believe much more right extreme and anti- Palestine anti-brown let&#39;s say than the Israeli non-brown population um so I know that I know that October 7th wasn&#39;t the beginning I know that for many it was a cry of desperation okay but what was done on October 7th I don&#39;t think is subjective I think objectively was something that was only done to provoke a response you don&#39;t burn Jewish people and think that is is not going to come for you Hamas by all indications which is why it got its leadership out of there was anticipating exactly what happened so assuming that you come in you kill a bunch of their people they&#39;re going to come for you there&#39;s going to be Warfare okay that that&#39;s not a surprise to anybody we would do the same thing okay I you know and scale-wise it was a big deal for Israel what should have happened we&#39;re four months in now plus what do you think should have happened like after the first week do you believe that the world should have said okay that&#39;s enough the numbers you know you&#39;re they killed a, or500 whatever the number is um now you killed 10 they already killed 5,000 in two weeks so let&#39;s say so should it have ended then and if so because that would be great less killing is always better if you are humanistic then what I don&#39;t understand the how of ending this right now I know cease fire I get it but how do I stop I&#39;ll play Israel okay if I stop okay I&#39;ll stop I&#39;m beating you up too much I&#39;m killing too many people I&#39;m killing too many Innocents I&#39;m killing to little Hamas I can&#39;t get you you&#39;re in the tunnels and you have my people who I want back who now I believe as many as a quarter of them are dead already more so they&#39;re supposed to matter I&#39;m not getting you anyway and I&#39;m killing all these Innocents I&#39;ll stop how do they stop and not believe that they&#39;re not going to get attacked by Hamas as soon as Hamas how would Hamas stop not not knowing that they believe that they Israel will do the same here&#39;s here&#39;s the thing about October 7th I really need I think for both of our viewers people who follow me and follow you I think we really need to discuss the stuff that we can share information that I might not know you&#39;ve seen the video I&#39;ve not seen the video the 47 minutes video and I believe that what you&#39;ve seen other than the stuff that we&#39;ve seen you&#39;ve seen people tied up you&#39;ve seen burnt corpses you&#39;ve been mutilated bodies right now I want to talk about I want to talk about two things why is the connection about the Jewish people to is which I don&#39;t I understand is the Jewish people have been persecuted for centuries they&#39;ve been pushed around from one country to another they&#39;ve been burned they&#39;ve been put in gas Chambers I&#39;m I I I really believe that that that kind of generational trauma is a huge thing that you cannot ignore and that is why for them Israel is not just a place it&#39;s not just a country it is an idea that no matter what happens to us in the world we have a place that is strong that can protect us that it will never happen to us again what happened in the bab B under Babylon under the Nazis under the Russians we have that place so I understand that and I understand the shock that happened on October 7th like even that place is not safe anymore so having said that I want you to look at the other side on the other side every day for the Palestinian people is October 7th every day they are kidnapped from their homes every day they are killed every day I&#39;m going to come to the burning I&#39;m come to the atrocities I&#39;m I&#39;m I&#39;m not going to I&#39;m not going to miss anything and I promise you I because here&#39;s the thing about conversation I think that what how people lose conversation is that when I don&#39;t show you the empathy that is deserved for your pain and I understand that so I I I I I see I see that when November November 4th the first exchange between the hostages Israel released 240 children and women 233 of them were never convicted so basically we call them prisoners because they put in Israeli prisoners but but actually they they go in in the houses and they kidnap them on daily basis every single day people are shot well they&#39;ll say it&#39;s a parallel system uh of justice for Israeli citizens many of whom are not Jewish right and then there is this occupied um murky International standard of how you treat people when you are occupying them yes and there&#39;s a different military type Justice but it is also deserving of scrutiny and criticism and you have a lot of people without due process who&#39;ve been held for a long time absolutely for Palestinians they&#39;re sitting at their homes and they&#39;re being kidnapped every day from their homes Israel is the only country in the world that tries children in front of military courts and they have a 99.7 conviction rate there is there&#39;s nowhere in the where you have 99.7 conviction and sometimes it&#39;s but they are terrorists okay zabak 2010 her father her brother her husband were killed and then she posted on Facebook may God unite Us in heaven and because of that Israel went to her house and they detain her for eight months for acts of terrorism so when Israel goes in with civil clothes and kill people in the hospital three like they are terrorists said who Israel who decides so the whole thing about like when when you have out of the 240 people that were released by Israel 107 were children 65 for the age of 18 meaning that they were children when they acted so the the daily kidnapping happens and the daily killing happens there we have just been micro doing it and the the word doesn&#39;t care about it until it until October 7th happens now let&#39;s talk about October 7th October 7th is a [ __ ] atrocity it&#39;s a terrorist attack it&#39;s terrible and no one can ever I cannot even imagine the Israeli and the the Israelis parents and family that went through that and also the Jewish people who as I said they are connected to that place think them it&#39;s a safe haven for them it&#39;s shattering the people who were but but the problem is what happened what we saw yesterday after afterwards Anthony blink Anthony blinkin went on in front of Congress and he testified about an incident where Hamas terrorist went in they goded The Father&#39;s Eyes they they raped the mother they chopped off her breast they amputated the the child leg and they cut the little fingers the the finger of a of a little boy and then they had breakfast and laughing that is a direct testimony from zaka and hulah United two relief groups from Israel that they have actually been exposed that all of the stuff that they said has been lies and they have collected more than $50 million of donations because of these unverified lies and this has been reported by the Israeli media arts Channel 13 and time of Israel so the this shock the allegation a huge part of it is something that you&#39;ve seen burn burn burn bodies but in the same time in Israel people talk about the Hannibal directive where the Israel went in and IND indiscriminately they shot Hellfire missiles from Apaches they shot shells from tanks there is an Israeli Survivor her name is Yasmin porach he came on a podcast and she talked about being in a house with 14 other hostages and 40 terrorists and said everybody was alive and then the Israeli started to to their tanks shooting all the first 40 40 40 were killed the terrorist and 12 out of the 14 hostages were killed that&#39;s an 85% kill rate now let&#39;s talk about the decapitated babies according to the official Israeli records one baby was killed milain 10 month 12 children from the age to 2 to9 36 from the age from uh 12 to 19 a total of 49 innocent children who should never have been killed or even touched on that day the biggest casualty was 421 people from the age of 20 or 40 the total number of people that killed with that day 1,120 people 29 people 373 of them were police and military and 759 civilians no rape no decapitation nothing all of these were refuted even the the the New York time pieace and the guardian retracted them because they were taken for a right so if you have the highest rated official going in and saying lies and now you created this image I&#39;m TR tell you on the October 8th when that happened when I heard that the people were killed and Decap like oh [ __ ] them go in and kill everybody I the Muslim the Arabs like that could because that was the image I had does it make it less horrific that there are just 759 just killed most of them killed by maybe fire Firepower from the Israeli no it&#39;s still horrific but you created that image so people now are prepared and prepped to go in and kill everybody this is this is blind r and what we did right now what what did you say do you say one time it&#39;s like I&#39;m I&#39;m done playing the game I&#39;m done refereeing the game I need to expose the game what we didn&#39;t right right now is investigative journalists the 40 decapitated baby became a myth and everybody now believes so if I talk about them nobody wants to I don&#39;t think everybody believes it and but it was used as an emotional way to suck money 50 million and to allow people to say all right go and kill everybody there&#39;s no question that it was tremendously powerful uh hearing that Al a so when I tell you when I tell you when I when I break down the numbers to you now how do you here&#39;s my problem with breaking down the num it&#39;s not new to me okay I&#39;m sure that you know I&#39;ve heard this uh and I accept it by the way now I can&#39;t say I know but I&#39;ll say I accept it because I can say that about all the numbers absolutely and I can say that about when I was covering war in Iraq and Afghanistan if I don&#39;t see it I don&#39;t I guess I can trust I mean the numbers are always in round numbers you know but these are these are official numbers from the Israel it but I don&#39;t know that that makes them true it&#39;s like you know so who do believe these are the but I&#39;m saying I think it&#39;s a problem okay because why well because of motivation you know if I get attacked and I&#39;m going to give you the description of the damage there&#39;s every incentive for me to exaggerate it because I&#39;m hurt and I want people to know how hurt I am and I certainly don&#39;t want to Discount my hurt so I&#39;m not saying anybody&#39;s lying I&#39;m just saying that but you know why you know why is a person for me because right now as we&#39;re speaking the uncles and the cousins of my children in Gaza they lost all of their homes they are still alive they are all now cramped in one apartment in one building in Rafa and as we speak one bomb can drop on them right now annihilating my whole family and that happened because of lies that were propagated making people accept that Israel can go and do whatever they want that accept accept and again you&#39;re right okay you&#39;re certain certainly right to feel that way this is your family there is a but for analysis you can say but for J October 6 there is no October 7 okay but for October 7 you don&#39;t have what happens after it now even if it&#39;s exaggerated even if some of the things are not true and we&#39;re done to create emotional firestorms okay there is still a reality of brutality terroristic actions atrocities whatever word you want to apply it doesn&#39;t matter call it terrorist I don&#39;t I&#39;m not invested in but I&#39;m saying it doesn&#39;t matter how you break down the numbers and if it&#39;s less than what we know does it matter that it&#39;s less than we what we know yes because you should be aware of what&#39;s exaggerated and what&#39;s acted upon and what&#39;s exploited you&#39;re right on all of it in terms of checking motivations it is still the precipitating cause of what came after it and I believe it was done to create what happened after it now where does this take us the only place that matters which is how do you stop the violence now that&#39;s my only concern about liting litigating the past it&#39;s not that I&#39;m I don&#39;t have a position so it doesn&#39;t matter to me what&#39;s happening right now is a is a classic case of we are treating the symptoms and we&#39;re not treating the Cause right right and what is the cause the cause is that you have h a situation in Palestine that is impossible to maintain you cannot have these the people who live there having no freedom of determination over their own existence and it doesn&#39;t even work for Israel this is a Band-Aid measure for Israel to control its own existence their rationale of it is and your Home Country gets involved early on I I was just told this again I think maybe last last night on my show Egypt didn&#39;t want the Palestinians nobody in the region wanted the Palestinians um the unspoken truth of the Arab Brotherhood is that the Palestinians don&#39;t really count and are disrespected and Egypt said they can&#39;t come here because we have too many Jordan said we&#39;re like all Palestinians here they can&#39;t come here and that is the counter narrative okay I I I I can answer that CG although Egypt did say early on we&#39;re not saying they can&#39;t we&#39;re saying we shouldn&#39;t they shouldn&#39;t have they have home you see you see this is again one of the talking points that get repeated and people don&#39;t know the reality behind it people say Arab people do not accept Palestinians first of all there are 2.5 million Palestinians in Jordan already there are 4,600 Palestinians in Lebanon already there are 5,900 people in Syria already Egypt my wife has had had like uh a refugee document so we have many but we don&#39;t count them you know why because we don&#39;t treat them as refugees we treat them as part of the country right so Saudi Arabia UAE Kuwait hundreds of thousands of pales we&#39;ve already taken a lot but when we take them we basically allowing Israel to do what they want which is evacuating the land from Israel and the whole thing about like we&#39;re killing them why don&#39;t you take them is like you going out in the street shooting someone in the face and you&#39;re angry at your neighbors for not burying him it&#39;s cra crazy I I it&#39;s just you&#39;re basically blaming the people that don&#39;t want to take them but you don&#39;t blame the the the side of the conflict that&#39;s doing the killing it&#39;s Madness it doesn&#39;t make any sense it it doesn&#39;t make sense I also don&#39;t think and also also for for is I&#39;m Israeli let&#39;s say some miracle Egypt says today all right let&#39;s take them 2.2 million people goes in into the Sinai they have access to the Sea what do you think these 2.2 Milli they&#39;re going to just sit there they&#39;re going to retaliate try to come back they&#39;re going to have the sea open for them now they&#39;re going to have Israel like controlling this it&#39;s going to be the Egyptian problems and then and then they&#39;re going to have they&#39;re going to have weapons they going to have an open an open desert in the S is this safer for Israel right everywhere it&#39;s like Yemen now now now you got you&#39;re going to create like a like a very very unstable Focus that&#39;s not going to be good for Egypt nor good for for Israel so it&#39;s not even so it&#39;s not here here&#39;s the here&#39;s the thing do do you do you notice how the pro-israeli people talk about the West Bank they say Judea and Samaria AKA West Bank Judea and Samaria AKA Westbank they already changing it yeah because if they can do to that to 2.2 million people in Gaza in a few years from now they&#39;re GNA find another Hamas in West Bank and they&#39;re going to bomb the West Bank H is growing in popularity in the West Bank now because Happ of course of course enemy of my enemy is my hero okay and the thing is you you have already the 3.5 people they have no rights they have the land is being taken away from like a Jewish person from Poland can land in Israel take a land of a of a palestin that&#39;s been living there for 600 years doesn&#39;t make any sense so and now they&#39;re going to push people into Jordan like why doesn&#39;t Jordan take them why doesn&#39;t Saudi Arabia take them and here&#39;s the thing about my relationship with Israel growing up I had absolutely no problem with Israel of course they are our enemies we we fought for Wars with them but I was one of those people who really liked Sadat for doing the peace process because and and I know that we we we were like you know we dealt short the negotiation was bad Kissinger was he was like a master but like but at the end of the day we took Sinai and peace no more war no more war no more I&#39;m I&#39;m like but please any let&#39;s have whatever compromise but no more war so I have no problem with Israel existing and when people like is like where you where you going to there&#39;s like there not me 9 million people where are they going to go it&#39;s it&#39;s it&#39;s complim and a lot of people hate me for having this very C interest very but I said I was I was practical but then I see those people who have a lot of people in the Arab world acknowledging their existence okay have you they&#39;re not acknowledging other people existence they&#39;re not acknowledging the Palestinians they not they&#39;re even becoming to to question my existence as the Egyptian because now you see I&#39;m I&#39;m not talking about like people on Facebook I&#39;m talking about official ministers they are going there in rallies and having the greater Israel map behind them what does that tell you from the to the Euphrates that is they&#39;re basically swallowing eight Arab countries half of Egypt half of Iraq all of Palestine Lebanon Syria Jordan parts of Saudi Arabia and and parts of turkey so when you when you get me that wait I&#39;ve been accepting you all your life and now you are accepting me so I want to tell I want to tell the Israelis I want tell the people who say that isra the that the Jews people have more right in this land more the Palestinian I have one question for them explain to me why is that so without using religion without using religion yeah I understand the point because what do they say because like God gave it to us which God we are the chosen one chosen by whom it&#39;s a Promised Land promis by whom your God it&#39;s not my God I I don&#39;t think any of it should be based on Rel so so yeah but but here&#39;s the thing all of like the liberal Zionist the the I&#39;m talking about the liberal Zionist now who like support Israel this like we are secular we&#39;re Democratic we we separation of of church and and state and when it talks about Israel it&#39;s biblical all of a sudden it&#39;s biblical it&#39;s because of the Holocaust what did we have to do with it no it&#39;s not just because of the Holocaust it&#39;s because when the issue becomes whether people want Jewish people to exist Israel to exist you&#39;re making it existential uh and what does make them different is their faith uh and as an extension of that you know the blood of people in that faith and you know from The River To The Sea uh scares those but you know but you know who came up with this you what Israel yeah the LI party chter 1977 haven&#39;t you read it but it&#39;s not but it&#39;s not who&#39;s using it now you you you want to you want to hear it says like this the right no no the rights of the Jewish people in the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and it is important for our and it it connects to the right of our peace and security therefore Judea and Samaria will never be handed to a foreign administration from the sea to the Jordan there only be Israeli sovereignty we just make it rhyme better you make it rhyme better but it&#39;s like have you read but the thing is they this is what Israel does they do stuff and they project it on you those people who are chanting from the river to the Palestinian and you can&#39;t blame the people for chanting for them because they&#39;re desperate they don&#39;t have a superpower supporting them they don&#39;t have the international media supporting them and all of that can see and they go and shout and they chant in the streets but the official Charter of Israel the official the official people they&#39;re they they&#39;re talking about from the rivers to the Sea greater Israel so how can you compare compare people in the streets or Facebook by the official stand of the Israeli government Israel is not trying to expand its borders into turkey and Iraq and that&#39;s not going to happen Okay well we we we thought we we thought that CL was not going to happen and we thought that we thought the illegal settlement would not this has been happening since Israel was formed in one way or another okay and I believe it&#39;s a situation where the problem has always worked better than any solution kind of like our Southern border things that frighten people things that keep people divided things that keep people angry are a very good control mechanism and I always have wondered when I&#39;ve worked in that part of the world what would they do here if they didn&#39;t hate each other like you know if it wasn&#39;t for oil and hatred I wonder and maybe circumcision because we all have our dicks cut so we are we angry at each other the whole time imagine like that&#39;s why Muslims and Jews are in fight because we 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was talking to somebody about you today and they&#39;re like you got to talk to him all about his medical career and how he feels about it I said I get it that if you focus on healing and what matters for people what you&#39;re doing with laughter what you&#39;re doing with instructive humor what you&#39;re doing with satire is so powerful and it is it can be healing I think the dialogue is healing look it&#39;s I&#39;m loving this it&#39;s easy for me to have the conversation though because I&#39;m not emotionally and personally vested the way you are and the way Jewish people are um I have a lot of Jews in my life I have Jews in my family but I I have Arabs in my life I have Muslims in my life I don&#39;t have them in my family as far as I know but it doesn&#39;t matter to me but it&#39;s easier for me to have the conversation I don&#39;t have blood on the line um the way other people do and I respect that a lot of Americans don&#39;t they believe they can own an issue even though they have no part of it some people with more extended value than others like I understand why black people have an affinity to seeing minorities oppressed in other places of the world I understand that I understand why they would see commonality I get it and I think it&#39;s important to engage it I do think that a lot of the explanations have their place but are also a distraction from the present like blinkin is over there Israel just said no to the latest you know I don&#39;t know when you&#39;re going to be watching this but it&#39;ll probably be true five times between now and whenever this ends whatever that means that Israel is saying no no no this phase deal it&#39;s too long we&#39;re not getting enough I don&#39;t understand how this ends in a way I&#39;ll be honest with you I don&#39;t know how it ends at all hon well well again we we we you ask a question I told you go back to the root of the problem that we do in medicine and and and I&#39;m telling you you do an incredible job because I&#39;ve watched you many times you have an ability you&#39;re you&#39;re an empath you put your yourself in other people&#39;s shoes so you can understand and I I respect that about you you&#39;re you&#39;re you&#39;re a big empath you you&#39;re empathic with people and and sometimes when I tell people put your your your yourself into the other people&#39;s shoes and someone who does that beautifully is Gideon leevy the isra reporter wonderful wonderful and he he&#39;s very fair he&#39;s very he&#39;s an Israeli reporter and I he is very fair and sometimes when when because it seems that for so long and I&#39;m sorry to say this people don&#39;t want to hear anything from the Arab side so I use Israeli quotes and one of my favorite quotes believe it or not is what by borian the was the George Washington of Israel he said and this is this is a quote from the book The Jewish Paradox by Nahum Goldman he said if I was an Arab leader I would not sign an agreement with Israel it&#39;s natural we took their land I mean yes God promised it to us but our God is not theirs why would they accept it why would that mean anything to us yes there was anti-Semitism Nazis the Jews osit but why would they pay for it we are coming here to take their land and see you don&#39;t not accept it that is a direct quote by the founder of Israel and he in another speech 1938 he said let&#39;s let&#39;s let&#39;s let&#39;s be true to ourself politically we are the oppressors and they defend themselves we&#39;re coming here to inhabit and they&#39;re already here and then he said something mindblowing he said behind the terrorism by Arabs is a movement though primitive but yet it is not the voice of idealism and self-sacrifice this the I can just like take those two two quotes and put in front of everybody everybody somebody will say ham I will tell him B 2019 in party said in order to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian State someone bolster hamus give them money we&#39;ve been doing that that&#39;s been our strategy so I don&#39;t understand like the the cognitive dissidence that people came me like ham October 7th and guys don&#39;t you see what you&#39;re doing there&#39;s a Contin like in 2001 in in the video with n I&#39;m sure you&#39;ve seen that video when they say like uh I have sabotaged the O Law Courts as he was like proud of it and he was just dissing America and and and quotes from him when he&#39;s younger on television saying no I don&#39;t think that there&#39;s a right to a Palestinian state so you see all of that and people say it&#39;s the Palestinian F so when you push people for a certain limit when you continue to dealing people like animals they will behave like animals listen we&#39;ve seen that time and again in this country okay um and yet the story of Humanity on this planet is exactly this pattern repeated again and again and again in this country um these were occupiers who came here with they may say manifest Destin but it wasn&#39;t rooted in the mythology of God telling them the way it is with the Jews to expose and and and this isn&#39;t this isn&#39;t my thought but I did hear it and it does resonate with me which is this happens okay and right wrong good bad Wars are fought lines move people are placed and displaced okay it happens all the time and this area I mean there&#39;s so many people in Africa right now who want to have exactly the same conversation about how they&#39;ve been displaced and how wrong it is and how much violence there is and killing and it&#39;s happening in in Yemen also it&#39;s happening all over the place it&#39;s happening in China with a million weager Muslims that we don&#39;t know what&#39;s happening with them we don&#39;t anything so here everybody&#39;s focused on here as if this is so wrong and it can never be right these situations all get solved there&#39;ll be waves of trouble there&#39;ll there be more there&#39;ll be outgrowth there&#39;ll be fighting okay it happens around the world but only this situation in our lifetime has been impossible to move the line for anything but a tenuous period And I believe that&#39;s because the problem works better than a solution but we know what needs to happen right you need Israel out of these places you need a compromised border agreement about where they are and what land they can get and what land&#39;s going to be here and it can&#39;t be part of Faith because you have to divorce yourself from godspeak at some point if if you want to deal with reality okay and I&#39;m not anti-religion I&#39;m not telling people not to be religious no we know we know we know we see what happens when you put religion in policy it&#39;s messy but this is what happens th this is what happens again and again and again um is that they have to leave some places they get to stay some places and Israel should not be in control of Palestine Palestine should they just can&#39;t have a terror organization that is seen as a state sponsor of Terror as the head of the organization so Hamas has to go and they need real elections real things and they&#39;ll struggle like everybody else like we&#39;re struggling right now but but H is a Hamas is a product of the situation I get it it is a but but but here the thing is you you said something like why is this particular issue is not resolved for a very very obvious reason because the the greatest country in the world the most powerful country in the world has been the sponsoring Israel and I have mentioned this before the during the history since the Inception of Security Council America used the vet2 86 85 84 times it&#39;s always about Israel and they use the vet to protect Israel 56 times it&#39;s crazy that is not and now with when Biden by the Joe Biden Jo geriatric genocide Biden that&#39;s that&#39;s that&#39;s his nickname now John like Joe geriatric genocide Biden because he is supporting genocide and people are telling even people in his own party it&#39;s like you have to stop how many more do you feel okay October 8th October 9th October 7th how many more it&#39;s not working the rage is not working what did the rage get us in Afghanistan and Iraq million Iraqi de $2 trillion spend all of these American being killed in Iraq did it solve anything did the rage did they angst did it solve anything no so is there in like one sane person to say this has to stop Israel takes money from us I&#39;m speaking now as an American citizen I don&#39;t know why my representatives are wearing IDF uniforms in the Congress Brian Mast Brian Mast is wearing an IDF uniform in the Congress and now when you look to his finances he received $11,000 what do you mean he&#39;s wearing an IDF uniform Brian Mast you can look it up Brian Mast the Congress man from Florida he was wearing an IDF uniform in Congress in lobby he&#39;s going around showing his IDF military Congress because after he lost his legs in 2010 right he went in and he lost his loyalty to the United States and he he he volunteered in the IDF and he&#39;s not even Jewish he&#39;s Christian he&#39;s a Christian Zionist and he comes back and there&#39;s video you can look it up he&#39;s like I wish more children are dead in Gaza is Rashid put in like the green Hames bandana and said like I wish Jewish people were killed oh my God she&#39; be lynched but like this is like a congress person he receives $101,000 from APAC and his next seven donors combined they gave him $92,000 is this if if this is not buying politics for an foreign agent I don&#39;t know what is what is what happens if America doesn&#39;t support Israel I&#39;m not support it but be fair Force Israel to stop building the settlement Force Israel to be just this is the whole idea why do you think America gives $2.3 billion to Egypt it is linked to the peace treaty with Israel like why do you think we give $3.8 billion to Israel and it&#39;s not about that as an American citizen again what it there are a lot of people in this country right now a growing population who says we shouldn&#39;t give money to Egypt we shouldn&#39;t money to any of those places let you guys fight it out there&#39;s a good chance Israel&#39;s going to kick your ass and then let it happen Israel will not kick anybody&#39;s ass without America support because right now in an area of 365 km S I know but here&#39;s the thing but here&#39;s the thing here&#39;s the thing weapons will always make their way to people who need them and want them I understand but America America being the superpower of the world comes with responsibility being the boss of the work comes with responsibil they say that this that and the US government position is this is exercising its respons otherwi theion will destroy isra okay how you will not destroy anybody if you if it&#39;s about compromis and giving people what they want and they need because Israel what they want and need is to get rid of Israel not really not really because like lot of people say it and a lot of people don&#39;t I don&#39;t think that Saudi Arabia the leadership in Saudi Arabia want to destroy Israel I don&#39;t think that leadership in Jordan or in Egypt are wanting to destroy you talking about ham and Iran and if you get more people involved and give Justice to the people you know what happens you feed the radicals by being unjust that&#39;s always been true yes so anger and violence makes radicals take over they&#39;re making a new generation of enemies right now as we speak and the 27,000 people were killed a reporter lost seven of his family seven people of family sharak a Palestinian American she was killed an Israelite for about it for a year The Continuous lying this this like but so what happened so but as as an as an American like when I tell you when when I when you know when you know the amount of money that goes to Israel tax exempt how do you talk to a teacher in Delaware making minimum wage or someone in in Mississippi who is trying to fight to do tax and he sees hundreds of millions of of dollars in donation feeding illegal settlements and their tax exempt how does this work Bess we have a military-industrial complex this country that gobbles up so much budg so disproportionate and we give it for all kinds of reasons good bad and indifferent all over the world if Americans were to ever really truly measure their lives needs and wants as a function of what is given abroad and vote on that the world would be in big trouble because Americans in a vote I don&#39;t know that it comes out that we&#39;re giving foreign aid 10 on the dollar to what we&#39;re giv right now so the idea that teachers are underserved true because of the money we give to Israel please there&#39;s money given to so many different things yes and I want them all and I want them all to be checked and I want them all all of them to be very to be revised because I as an American I don&#39;t want our money my Tex PA money going all around there and I know that people make comparison between Israel other but again I&#39;m telling you the special treatment Israel gets it could not be compared people talk about Saudi Arabia for example Saud Arabia Saudi Arabia defense budget is 775 billion $75 billion where do you think this money goes goes to America actually pragmatically putting like all morals aside Saudi Arabia is actually supporting the American economy because they&#39;re giving so much money to all of these weapons all right the Saudi Arabia like The Sovereign I think the Sovereign must have about like six60 billion do in American Banks while Israel has been and I&#39;m talking not as an Arab or as a Muslim as financially Israel is is sucking us dry there is UN un unanticipated $1.6 billion that America has to come with because of the of the war America has a moral commitment to Israel why and a strategic commitment uh why is it strategic people hate America because of Israel if people say what why people people hate Can America Trust in the region to be as good an ally did you try did you try other allies did you try did you try we just like being why why why don&#39;t we explore all of these I mean the recent American Experience would say as uh former president Trump announced in one sentence Islam hates us remember that oh my God when he said that and how it resonated I thought that that line how many times have I been wrong about this when he said those words I said that&#39;s it he&#39;s done that is he just convicted a 1.5 billion people of hating America and yet his people go go out in Martian and say Jews will not replace us it doesn&#39;t make make any sense Chris the thing is like you can talk about yes do Muslims hate America a lot of Muslims hate America of course but they do that because of their the same way that a lot of Jews hate people because of Israel a lot of people true but the American Experience is they&#39;ve never heard Israel say we hate America and after they don&#39;t say it but they act like they do after 911 in the American experience that entire part of the world celebrated absolutely and and and and every day every time there is a that falls on Gaza people in Israel also celebrate have you heard about Cinema Sid yes all right have you heard about the pancake celebration for killing of Rachel Cory the American citizen under bulldozer that Bena said like she&#39;s a fool so I mean you give me one example I&#39;ll give you 10 from the other side seriously it just like the it the focus is on oh no I could give you a 100 examples the point is yes the point is look hurt people hurt people yes right I know and angry people do Angry things and again I don&#39;t want to erase Israel I don&#39;t want people I don&#39;t want because this is this is but how do you stop it I&#39;m not asking you to solve it we sitting you&#39;re a doctor and it&#39;s it&#39;s really about Justice it&#39;s like if you what do you do what do you do I give you the wand okay I mean I know go back to 2000 where there now what do you do now go back to 2000 to that that area and just sit with the Palestinians and give them the land it&#39;s about Land versus peace and we so all Israelis must leave leave Gaza and the West Bank I mean that&#39;s part of it yeah but they I mean again I&#39;m I&#39;m not a Palestinian negotiator and I cannot give you the best way but what I&#39;m telling you what is happening right now is not sustainable and and the problem is these discussions like what happens the day after but it&#39;s not sustainable anyway you look at it Bess the United continue the killing and nobody is going to say if they&#39;re speaking from their heart I want more people to die um right but also you can say I don&#39;t know what else to do well but I don&#39;t know what what to do I but but the thing is we can always say What&#39;s Happening Now is wrong I don&#39;t know what should happen but it&#39;s not that and then the people who yeah yeah so so so whatever is should be done is not that I age and it has to stop because you canot because here&#39;s the thing you know what really pissed me off about Western media I they wasted so much time what&#39;s the proportionate response what&#39;s the proportionate response they&#39;re stalling they&#39;re stalling well but that&#39;s because that&#39;s because the death count kept being used as the only measure of the situation and we didn&#39;t do that when we went to Iraq and Afghanistan people have no idea how many people Americans in the social media there so people very important Point um but but uh if this had been America okay this is something that I think is not fair to Israel we are asking them to do things that we would have never done okay if you took aund something Americans now I know people are going to say what are you talking about they&#39;re Americans being held all over the place in Iran and other places and we don&#39;t fight to get them back Russia it&#39;s true it&#39;s true I think America does more than a lot of other countries to get its people back but it&#39;s far from perfect I agree but if you took the Americans in the way that they were taken on October 7th and you didn&#39;t give them back immediately that place would be ashes right now good so it no no not good not good no no no I agree with you that&#39;s what America would do and that&#39;s what Americans would want I I agree okay so so let&#39;s kill everybody no I mean because the thing is immediately immediately happened immediately happened four months ago it happened October 8th and October 9th and October 10th and November October how much longer but why isn&#39;t there pressure because you cannot listen you cannot wipe up har no no no you can&#39;t so the whole idea we going to keep killing until we get lucky we it can&#39;t happen and and the thing is like people believe the most outrageous thing you know have you read Patrick kingley when he said there&#39;s like 450 miles of tunnel do you believe that seriously like the the N the New York subway exaggerated like everything else New York Subway system in total is 433 it&#39;s probably exaggerated like everything else it&#39;s not exaggerated he&#39;s like the New York Times has been a mouthpiece of Israel IM media they are not even challenging anything and this idea of lies and lies and lies and lies and lies they are pathological Liars here&#39;s here&#39;s my point not a point it&#39;s a question and I don&#39;t even like framing it this way but again we&#39;re operating from a place where we&#39;re all lost with this nobody should like the status quo and nobody seems to make so lost to just say cease fire and then is how about how about is the solution cease fire and let&#39;s talk about it what the UN said early on and now everybody hates everything every institution un&#39;s no good nothing&#39;s good give back all the people live or dead give them back in three days cuz I&#39;m sure it&#39;ll take you time and three is a good bit biblical number give back all the people and we will cease fire right there&#39;ll be an Armistice at least right you&#39;ll you&#39;ll stop doing what you&#39;re doing we&#39;ll stop doing what we&#39;re doing tell Hezbollah stop doing what they&#39;re doing tell houthis stop doing what they&#39;re doing everybody stops even if that were achievable nobody&#39;s requiring the first element every time there&#39;s a deal on the table the UN said early on give back all of the hostages unconditionally it was never even considered as a deal point and in America it would be deal point1 yes yes I know what you want we don&#39;t negotiate with terrorists but let&#39;s put that to the side give us back all our people or we&#39;re going to come and it&#39;s never going to stop yeah but you understand that like also there is they want their people you understand there&#39;s there&#39;s hostage in their people if I were Israel I would empty all the fac if you heard them all back but also in Paris today Israel also refused that because there was because there was a whole there&#39;s a a deal on the table for a permanent ceasefire and just like a total exchange of everybody because also I mean again put yourself in in in those Hamas shoes it&#39;s like oh I&#39;m going to give them I have no leverage going to come in and kill us that&#39;s right so basically you want something that would give a kind of a permanent solution and the permanent solution ceasefire exchange everybody and let&#39;s sit down and talk and make sure this will not happen again Hamas listen I&#39;m not here to defend Hamas I don&#39;t you&#39;re defending them you are Hamas Defender you look like you could be my cousin but you&#39;re Hamas Defender but by the way by the we are cousins but by the way but but but like so I I I don&#39;t know but like again I think what is the solution not disce yes and I&#39;m sure that we agree on this because this is too much this is too much and and the people who were killed and injured they and their families are not going to be friends with Israel they&#39;re going to not going to like them you have created a permanent problem for years to come you have created a million Hamas you have created and you have created resistance in is not have yeah yeah and and yes and in America and and that happened because of what was happening before October 7th it doesn&#39;t start at October 7th so the thing is this is one of the even in mideval ages Chris people stopped so people can bury their dead people in Gaza cannot even have this luxury like it it is just like heartbreaking they are they are blocking the aid trucks they&#39;re blocking everything I totally agree the humanitarian aspect of it has been mismanaged and wrong stop let&#39;s do what evil people did and just have time bre and then talk because you cannot talk about like what will happen after until you&#39;ve you&#39;re done with this done with this ham stopped doing [ __ ] is there has to be more conversation and pressure to give the people back I get that it&#39;s leverage then then then then you you have Saudi Arabia you have Egypt you have qar you have all of the players they sit with take the hostages and send them to Cutter and let them let them be taken care of no I I I&#39;m I&#39;m fine with like total exchange but this is the question what happens the day after and what happens the day after could not be discussed until today we finish we finish this war because this has to stop because they like what will happen if they come to us you&#39;ve been doing this for six months but who says Don&#39;t Stop except certain Hawks in America uh who believe like this line of they can&#39;t stop until they get rid of Hamas I am always surprised they&#39;re isolated they&#39;re they&#39;re not no but it doesn&#39;t matter about the human beings it&#39;s the idea tonight I&#39;m going to have someone as is often the case on my show all these people are much more sophisticated U than I am they&#39;re all exports in their areas so I&#39;m going to have a national security expert on tonight and he&#39;s going to say Israel can&#39;t stop until they end Hamas oh like we did like we did right um Israel&#39;s formidable okay they&#39;re not us all right um and I watched what we did in there and I watched how we used every arrow in the quiver in terms of we&#39;re going to give you money we&#39;re going to going to help build with this we&#39;re going to bring in professionals we&#39;re going to firebomb everything you know we&#39;re going to do everything and Isis is backing on the game Taliban is backing on the gain Al-Qaeda is becoming a brand again and spreading around um you can&#39;t kill an idea by killing the people who believe it you have to replace it with a better idea and there&#39;s a reason that these ideas take root among the poorest least educated most desperate not always but but in general and that is true here also you don&#39;t kill Hamas you find a tunnel let&#39;s say everybody from Hamas is in the tunnel even though I don&#39;t even know what that means anymore because as you say the enemy of my enemy is my friend now I&#39;m living in a hellscape I&#39;m like I&#39;m living in Thunderdome in Gaza uh all I know is that uh Israel and it seems like everyone in the world wants to kill me every five minutes I&#39;m in favor of anybody who&#39;s fighting for me um and people who say oh come on you&#39;re being a little dramatic oh really because that&#39;s not happening in America right now trumpism isn&#39;t about that right Trump is just such a magnetic genius leader with all the answers for our country that people follow him of course not he&#39;s an agent of animus he is a product of grievance that is Justified in many many cases they see him they don&#39;t want to be like him except the money if it&#39;s real right they don&#39;t want him to marry their sister right they don&#39;t want to go into business with him right but he is protect ing them against the things they fear more strong man image but that&#39;s the same thing it&#39;s an extraction of the same human principle you&#39;re not going to out root out Hamas you would have to have that population with a lot of foreign help say we&#39;re going to give you yourselves back okay you&#39;re going to we&#39;re going to help you have real elections to the extent they even exist anymore no Hamas maybe it&#39;ll be the same people who now have a new party name or whatever they call but but but again all of those people who like like but they pushed into radicalism right you talk about the reason that pushed them into radicalism right and I understand that also the radical government in Israel is feeding of that fear and if the if the radicals get the the in control of things everybody loses I don&#39;t want Hamas to continue because their existence should be nullified by having people taking their rights I don&#39;t want Israelis to be wiped out or killed and I think and and I was actually I was I was heartbroken when I read this report by Dan Cohen he&#39;s an Israeli Jewish uh uh new journalist who leaked this audio from Z zav viot he&#39;s a right-wing leader with Netanyahu when they were actually negotiating with the parents of the hostage just like they&#39;re pawns they&#39;re going to we&#39;re just going to get rid of them and you have to accept that the people in Israel doesn&#39;t want that happening it&#39;s true doesn&#39;t want that happening that&#39;s very true the families of the hostages have become a very powerful entity I I I I I cannot if I&#39;m if my son was there I can&#39;t even imagine what I would be going through if it was like locked up in a tunnel with some people of course you would hate everybody I would hate everybody but I also but but but as you go through the the hate and you go all the rage you need to know what works because hate might not be the answer and you&#39;ve said it before we went after K went after Gan WD that never existed million Iraqi killed all of these soldiers killed not just in Iraq but like American soldiers and the veterans and the people lost limbs and and and and and and they and they&#39;re like crippled for the rest of their lives for what for what for a rage for anger that is not true and the thing is like if anything we should learn from our mistakes but we they say history keep repeating itself no because people are stupid and they continue to repeat their own mistakes but it is The Human Experience yeah Sana was right those who fail to remember the lessons of History are doomed to repeat it but what idea was he facilitating it&#39;s not that you don&#39;t remember the lessons of History a part of this is education ignorance knowing and that&#39;s one of the beautiful gifts that you gave the audience today is incredible context but it&#39;s that you don&#39;t want to do it differently because it serves it&#39;s it&#39;s it&#39;s it&#39;s self- serving there is very little reason for power if there is no fear yeah you really don&#39;t need to give me any agency over your life and I&#39;ll give it to you a lot of the Arab regimes use the idea of Israel to to gain control people use the idea of fear like Mexicans Arabs Muslims Jews you need an enemy you need an enemy to to propagate to to to maintain control over people because how can you control their masses if it&#39;s not for fear it&#39;s true yeah it is true and it&#39;s always been been true and for people who see it as a developing World thing it can be more obvious more grotesque more obvious more ugly but it&#39;s just as real as what&#39;s happening in our two-party system that&#39;s 100% uh the the southern border that we&#39;re obsessed with I have never seen a problem in my life because even this it&#39;s not as easy or as simple as I&#39;m making it but sometimes I try to reduce things to the simple just to kind of create some energy of hope you know the southern border is kind of simple it&#39;s not the Middle East okay there is no Gods speak involved in it and there aren&#39;t decades and Decades of dead and uh Legacy effect okay but we don&#39;t fix it why because it&#39;s a great Boogeyman and it allows the right to say these Democrats are crazy they&#39;re going to get you killed these are savages coming across you hear about the 24,000 Chinese that just crossed in San Diego what is that about it&#39;s scary and you know you can fix it you know it&#39;s never about the problem it&#39;s how you man manipulate it and use it that&#39;s right it could be about anything could be land borders gender how can we find ways so we can fight with each other that&#39;s right I got Pitch fear fear is the commodity right I got pitched a story there is a fungus infection a fungal infection it&#39;s eating holes in people&#39;s lung tissue they think they have cases in all 50 states they wanted me to jump on this like it&#39;s the new pandemic I said well how many cases in every state I was like there&#39;s something killing everybody in every state you know what I mean if by that by that measure all I should talk about every night on my show is fenel if I want to talk about who&#39;s what&#39;s killing the most Americans in the most places most by surprise it&#39;s fent or your car is killing you right most people di in car accient whatever it is it&#39;s your cell phone don&#39;t put it near your head how do I talk to you so fear is a commodity and I think one of the most uh why I wanted to talk to you so much is one because I wanted to encourage you once you deal with the tour and get the special You&#39; got to have a platform bessam and I can say produce it for me produced by Chris Kumo I you&#39;re going to get a lot better than me who going to want to produce your show the combination uh and Stuart has this also too he doesn&#39;t like me but I I like him the intelligence the knowledge The Human Experience and what you flatter me with which is nowhere near as true with me as it is with you you can feel with your heart as well as your head what the competing exigencies are and I&#39;ve heard you do it on a lot of things you just this is this is timely so people uh grabbed on to you with what they heard Pierce Morgan not unlike what happened with um uh Hassan YF uh the the green Prince the son of Hamas oh uh he resonated in the same way because this guy his father is the head of one of the heads of Hamas and now he&#39;s become so inflamed that he&#39;s saying things that I I can&#39;t believe he&#39;s saying um because we&#39;re desperate for voices that have some kind of context and understanding what people aren&#39;t used to here is and again it&#39;s because I don&#39;t take any ownership of a side I just want it to stop and I cover the humanitarian things because it&#39;s obvious I I cover uh the existential issues for Israel because they&#39;re obvious but all I want is for it to stop to the extent that that matters I do sometimes wonder in my cynical moments do we want this to stop or is this kind of good for business one way or another like is this is this kind of good definitely good for many businesses the military industrial complex for media for sensationalist for it it is it is crazy I got to let you go Bess I I I we putting all of this on internet because I hope it is because it is such a beautiful discussion every single word that&#39;s amazing and here&#39;s how it must end you are busy but I think you have a responsibility and a talent that is different than a lot of funny people thank you and you are funny people are going to be surprised how funny you are don&#39;t uh sell yourself short about language uh your language is beautiful and eloquent thank you and you are funny well you&#39;re going to come to my show I&#39;m going to come to your show next week even though I do not like going to New Jersey me me neither I&#39;m coming I&#39;m coming for you um and you have an open invitation on my show thank you wherever you are whenever you want it and what I will do to make that real is I will call you on a regular basis and you are free to say no without insult 99 but I&#39;m saying it&#39;s okay you&#39;re busy you have other things there are other shows but I want you to have a platform we need the voice and the experience of somebody who lives The Experience thank you and that&#39;s all I want is for better Minds to help influence people who want to make decisions for themselves I appreciate that and you&#39;ve helped me with that thank you so much thank you brother thank you this has been an amazing amazing this is actually one of my best interviews ever because today today it&#39;s one of your best ones you see you could have you thought of stand up Chris thank you thank you so much Chris Bess MF my Italian brother all success to you in everything that you do and I hope there&#39;s a lot more to come thank you so [Music] much I will offer him a platform on my news Nation show whenever he wants it because it is in the diversity of voices even if it&#39;s uncomfortable even if you don&#39;t like it you have to understand what you think you oppose otherwise you&#39;re going to become what you oppose that&#39;s what happens whenever belief lives in a vacuum we&#39;ve seen it again and again do I like everything I said do I agree with it do I feel the same way it&#39;s irrelevant I&#39;m not a stakeholder except as an American citizen and as a citizen of the world who doesn&#39;t believe that violence is going to get us to a better place cuz it never has but I&#39;ll tell you I want to hear from him and I want to hear from others like him and I want to hear from people who are living the Israeli and the Jewish experience in Israel and here it matters for you to listen with your head as well as your heart and I hope you took something from it other than just feeling anger that maybe you don&#39;t even understand give me your comments give me your questions thank you for subscribing and following and I hope you benefited from the conversation as much as I did

something special for you today on the Chris Cuomo project bessam Yousef okay look him up he was called the John Steward of Egypt and that is High Praise but he is more than that we&amp;#39;re going to have a conversation today that&amp;#39;s going to make a lot of people uncomfortable but for the right reasons this is not empty provocation it&amp;#39;s about the Middle East and it&amp;#39;s about the head and heart of Arab people Palestinian people where they&amp;#39;re coming from I&amp;#39;ve talked to you often about where Israeli people are coming from the existential fear what it means to see images of people who say they want to kill you and destroy you burn Jewish bodies that is a very powerful message that I believe was sent intentionally to the Jewish people but there aren&amp;#39;t just two sides to the situation there are like five and there&amp;#39;s Humanity that runs throughout all of it now bessim Yousef grew up in Egypt he understands the politics of the region he understands the history of the region in a way that is exceptional extraordinary not as a comedian not as a cardiothoracic surgeon that he is but as a student of the world and as somebody who is in pain because of what&amp;#39;s happening in the Middle East who has family trapped in a home in Gaza who has lost people he knows in Gaza I believe that everybody who is open knows that what&amp;#39;s happening in the Middle East has to stop that whatever the answer is which to me is unknown it can&amp;#39;t be this and it can&amp;#39;t be this almost insane notion that it can&amp;#39;t stop until Israel eradicates Hamas like we eradicated Isis like we eradicated Terror in the war on terrorism you don&amp;#39;t beat an idea by destroying the people who believe it you beat it with a better idea something that entices people more than the desperation that led them to the extremism we know this we know this from our own experience so I&amp;#39;m not carrying water for anything other than the obvious idea that this has to end because there&amp;#39;s too much death there&amp;#39;s too much fear and there&amp;#39;s too little promise of anything better anytime soon to come so this is a conversation with one very intelligent person who lived the experience and is very very worried about the politics and the power plays involved and me with what I&amp;#39;ve seen what I&amp;#39;ve learned and what I want to ask of someone with a point of view in this situation a lot of it is going to be hard for you to hear especially if you believe that Israel is under constant threat and has to be doing what it&amp;#39;s doing right now and is Justified in doing so you&amp;#39;re going to be upset if you&amp;#39;re an American and you identify with the pro Palestinian movement as an aspect of Oppression it&amp;#39;s a long conversation it&amp;#39;s nuanced a lot of people are going to take bites and spin it out of context we&amp;#39;ll deal with that as it happens but it&amp;#39;s a conversation that has to happen again and again and again because it&amp;#39;s the only way we&amp;#39;ll get to a better place so here is bosim Yousef who is a great comedian is touring all over the country right now he was literally chased out of Egypt he kept doing his show and talking about oppression and tickling power as the Netflix documentary about him is called even when the Egyptian State said he had to stop or they would stop him he still did it and then he fled to the United States and he&amp;#39;s had to start all over again here it&amp;#39;s an amazing story it&amp;#39;s uniquely American and his perspective on what&amp;#39;s happening in the Middle East needs to be heard not that you accept it not that you understand all of it the way he does not that you agree but that you listen please do that here is bosam Yousef in a conversation that we need to [Music] have bessam how do you explain how explosive and massive the reaction to your comments about what&amp;#39;s happening in the Middle East were with Piers Morgan and all over the Internet afterwards well there&amp;#39;s two explanation number one luck No Such Thing number two number two I&amp;#39;ll be very honest about it I think and I think I told this piers on his show there is a whole group of people in this world that they haven&amp;#39;t had the chance to have their voice heard or their point of view came across because honestly when our side of the story get brought up they either being bullied into not putting out their words or they get their buttons pushed so they will come up as angry brown people I&amp;#39;ll be very honest and the thing is it this whole Topic in the Middle East is very emotional so when you try it&amp;#39;s a it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s very difficult to navigate the thing so not to fall into the emotional roller coaster and try to speak calmly and so that&amp;#39;s why in the second interview I was like trying to I I don&amp;#39;t want to score points when I sit with someone I I don&amp;#39;t want to prove that you&amp;#39;re wrong because you&amp;#39;re coming here you&amp;#39;ve already had your mind made up over years and years and years I&amp;#39;m not coming here to change your mind I think that&amp;#39;s the problem of how people get into the quarrels because we put our egos ahead of us oh it&amp;#39;s like I have to prove to them it&amp;#39;s like I&amp;#39;m coming here let&amp;#39;s say for examp me and you we talk about anything I don&amp;#39;t know Israel Palestine the NBA which team is better you I I learned something that I need to come across to just EXP explain my point of view and it&amp;#39;s up to you and up to the people watching and listening for them to decide for themselves is that too idealistic given the realities not just in the Middle East but in America one of the problems we&amp;#39;re having in processing what&amp;#39;s happening there is that it&amp;#39;s being filtered through the game of Advantage between the two parties it&amp;#39;s not a coincidence that the pro Palestinian and anything that even becomes exaggerated from that in America is all left and on the right you have the most staunch Pro Zionist pro-israeli it&amp;#39;s by design for Advantage everything in America gets split down the middle how do you break through that to get to a point of understanding well first of all uh the problem is there&amp;#39;s the problem of the media because now people are do not have any um space for listening so it&amp;#39;s all about sunbites and just like who wins and it it&amp;#39;s become Sensational it becomes like people in the Coliseum fighting it&amp;#39;s like and then it&amp;#39;s become die die die die there&amp;#39;s no the the the there&amp;#39;s no space for an Nuance conversation it&amp;#39;s just like who gets the sound bites who gets the thing and I have to slightly disagree with you because there&amp;#39;s a lot of the pro Zionist are on the left big time there&amp;#39;s a lot of people who like Joe Biden he is a Democrat and he people are asking just cease fire and a lot of people who are on the bankroll of APAC are actually Democrats so it&amp;#39;s not really a left to right thing yes well everybody was pro-israel in America um both parties the leaders uh the money the influence was too great for anybody to abandon it but don&amp;#39;t you think that the right kind of edged ahead even before this most recent conflict moving the consulate to Jerusalem and Trump being so much more of a vocal BB Ally and more much more so than Biden certainly as a vestage of the Obama Administration it seems now that if you were to point to one of the two parties and say which one is more pro-israel people would say the GOP not the Democrat absolutely but there&amp;#39;s two things number one there&amp;#39;s something about a little bit of a hypocritical side of how the GOP deals this because most of the pro-israel pro Zionist are anti-semites it&amp;#39;s crazy you really believe they&amp;#39;re anti-semites who who can remember forget MTG you know like like about that like the whole like Jewish laser guns a lot of people who a lot of people Pro would go out and say Jews not replace Us in Charlottesville so there is this this crazy split and Netanyahu is Friends of all of those people the pro Z but they&amp;#39;re very antiem they hate the Jews and they love Israel and you know why they do that right it&amp;#39;s all because of the SEC the Rapture the second coming of Jesus all they are like they when we talk about Zionism I don&amp;#39;t even think about Jewish people because most of the Jewish people are actually on our side Jewish voices for peace there&amp;#39;s Bernie Sanders all it&amp;#39;s not a Jewish thing it is a zist thing most of the most Zionist people are actually Christian Zionist and they&amp;#39;re pushing the whole like the whole world for a Brink because of this there&amp;#39;s like this book called forcing the God&amp;#39;s hands Incredible Book It Was Written 1998 and it they&amp;#39;re talking about the dispensationalists and it and how they&amp;#39;re like they basically made it a self professing prophecy and those people who believe in the second Rapture they believe that all Jews will be killed and only 14 40,000 people will remain and they all go and follow Christ it is dogmatic and it&amp;#39;s crazy in a country that is liberal and secular than the United States so it I I talk about a lot to people the Democratic party and they are very upset about the leadership which is Biden and how and and and secretary blinkin which is like a disgrace uh his yeah I mean we&amp;#39;re going to take get to that like later but it is it is yes it is a part of its right and left but now as much as I&amp;#39;m one of those people I would vote blue no matter who I will never give my voice to Biden after what what he&amp;#39;s done so then what do you do if you&amp;#39;re blue no matter who and the who is Biden and you won&amp;#39;t vote for him what do you do I I I will hit that one out seriously and I&amp;#39;m and it it it&amp;#39;s crazy because I became an American citizen in this country and I&amp;#39;m so happy to vote and America it took America four years to give me get to check out of the elections because if you are continue supporting a daily killing there and you&amp;#39;re not even like wanting to put the the light slightest effect to Stop The Killing why would I vote for you and then they come back and they blackmail us it&amp;#39;s like but Reproductive Rights at least if a woman in Tennessee cannot have reprodu you can travel to California New York to do it those people in G have nowhere to go so it and and it&amp;#39;s always been like the Democratic party blaming the minorities for for the because they the Democratic party gave us the promise that we are on your side but in reality they are not because here you have a war 27,000 kids 27,000 Palestinians killed 100,000 being injured 70% of the homes you did this this uh show with the um Abdu jaar the the the the the the the father and and you gave him the space and I really appreciate because and this guy is an American citizen he&amp;#39;s not even in Gaza and his son was killed for throwing and he&amp;#39;s not even throw the stone and even if he thrw a stone he should not be killed so we don&amp;#39;t know that he threw any stones but even if he did does he deserve to get shots no no no that&amp;#39;s that should be simple no but I don&amp;#39;t like the suggestion not from you um but the father even put it out there that you know they say he threw rocks look it doesn&amp;#39;t the fact scenario doesn&amp;#39;t make any sense the lack of Investigation the things that he told me they said to him when they came to the house he wanted his son&amp;#39;s personal effects he says one of the soldiers threw the wallet on the ground and said go ahead reach for it and I&amp;#39;ll send you the same place I sent your son now oh he&amp;#39;s probably lying well how Why th this is his son the guy&amp;#39;s an American he&amp;#39;s not anti-am he is American I look I I I think that it&amp;#39;s so easy for people if I were to look at how people blame me for things you&amp;#39;re an IDF shill you uh you are you hate the Jews you go you know it goes back and forth because we&amp;#39;re in a place now where if I&amp;#39;m not agreeing with you all the time I&amp;#39;m your enemy and so many things you use the word nuance uh yes complex situations if the Middle East isn&amp;#39;t complex what is there&amp;#39;s never a single Factor explanation here&amp;#39;s a a thing I&amp;#39;ve been thinking about lately on this but I don&amp;#39;t want to lose my point which is don&amp;#39;t you need a platform I know you&amp;#39;re doing shows you know bess&amp;#39;s all over the country doing his comedy um which is is a great act uh you can watch like I do online you can find Clips all over the place of bessam MF but yeah and you coming to my show in New Jersey no way I don&amp;#39;t go to New Jersey what if I&amp;#39;m an Italian from Queens I don&amp;#39;t go to Jersey I know but I&amp;#39;m doing my show there come on where is it New Jersey a performer Art Center in the 16th February we sold out the first show it&amp;#39;s 3,000 cat we already sold out the first we have to come can you get me a seat to the first show oh [ __ ] yeah all right that&amp;#39;s I&amp;#39;ll get you a fe on the on on on the stage I like special treatment I&amp;#39;m I&amp;#39;m going to give you like a box and I&amp;#39;m easy to make fun of no no no no I want you I want you to come to the we look like cousins anyway you know Mediterranean baby Italian and we got we got the hair going we&amp;#39;re we&amp;#39;re we&amp;#39;re across the the Mediterranean um so when I watch the pier thing I I&amp;#39;ve known Pierce Morgan for a long time I actually um was after him at CNN when Piers left I wound up having Pi&amp;#39;s slot and I spoke to him uh I saw him in the UK at some point and it was such a shock to me how resonant it was not because didn&amp;#39;t make sense not because it wasn&amp;#39;t Cogen or anything it was just such a hunger and then you know you had the whole rematch face off which I I loved uh that he went out to see you in LA and it was great but I was very surprised that after that you didn&amp;#39;t seek a new platform for yourself to discuss issues that are ongoing in that regard why haven&amp;#39;t you uh I know you&amp;#39;re doing your show but I am everything is new to me uh when I left Egypt in 2014 and I came here I lost everything I have nothing and I had to start all over again and only 5 years ago I started doing standup comedy in English and at the beginning it was bad of course because you start something new in B I&amp;#39;m 5 years old in that in comedy tell that&amp;#39;s your age how long you&amp;#39;ve been doing comedy 5 years you&amp;#39;re 5 years old so I&amp;#39;m still an an infant so I&amp;#39;m I still got my hour kind of like tight and now I have all of these tour dates and I&amp;#39;m doing it so everything is coming down very quickly and I&amp;#39;m between like I want to sell my special I want to tour and also I want to take time my time in the platform because a I don&amp;#39;t want to be you know how people will say oh you&amp;#39;re capitalizing on that thing you&amp;#39;re doing that but I don&amp;#39;t I I I I didn&amp;#39;t want to I don&amp;#39;t want to be put in a position where I&amp;#39;m an activist because I was politically burned in Egypt because people put that much pressure on me I was guys I&amp;#39;m a comedian you can watch a documentary about it it&amp;#39;s called Uh tickling Giants yes and uh it&amp;#39;s very interesting I followed it as it was happening um and I was surprised you know I didn&amp;#39;t expect the Americans to be outraged by it uh you know the the moniker for bessim was that he was Egypt&amp;#39;s John Stewart and Stewart embraced uh you he&amp;#39;s has been his own comeback here now um uh by choice and the work here&amp;#39;s the thing can you uh be exploiting a situation for Advantage yes that&amp;#39;s also known as America uh but this is necessary Bess I know and and this is why I would rather come on shows like yours come to to kind of like speak to the audience your audience because because your audience and peer&amp;#39;s audience and other people audience I&amp;#39;m not doing this to speak to my people I don&amp;#39;t want to be preaching to the choir I want to cross the A and speak to people about things that they have believed for so long and maybe we can have a logical non-emotional discussion about because what happened is full of emotions but when you break it down you&amp;#39;re a reporter I respect that so much because you can go to things that extremely emotional and then you can call me dissected the same way that I&amp;#39;m a doctor I had people coming like blood everywhere I have to have my I cannot get my emotions ahead of me because I need to know where is the source of bleeding so this is why card thasc surgeon you know this this whole area and he&amp;#39;s also certified in the United States it&amp;#39;s always good to know a doctor yeah um yeah I&amp;#39;m uh people used to pay me money to stab them in the chest so anyway so so so so I I want to reach out I want I want to speak to anybody everybody I will go to to to someone who completely opposed and I want us to be uncomfortable talking about everything talking about stuff that we have believed for many years for example a lot of people say Israel is America&amp;#39;s friend Israel is for supporting Israel is for the best interest and I want to challenge that because there has been now as an American citizen I don&amp;#39;t think Israel is a good friend will it be will can you call a country a friend if they have a spy Jonathan polard who spied an American and he he was an American he was not Israeli he took a life sentence in 1987 and just to spite the United States 1995 Israel gave him the Israeli citizenship while he was in jail that&amp;#39;s a Spite and then he was released 2020 on a on a private jet sponsored by an American billionaire you know Sheldon Adon Adon Adon and he was greeted at the airport by Benyamin Netanyahu what kind of message do you give the people is the big Republican yes but like what kind of message if the head of Israel is is is is receiving like a hero that okay what about the herok affair 1950 1954 where where where herok was an atach in Israeli Embassy and he was recruiting spies when American soul and he was tipped off that ifbi is coming to him he escaped and how he was rewarded two times Israeli president 19983 1993 and he&amp;#39;s the president of the the father of the current president today how can you call a country if the Apollo Affair where rafian an Israeli spy stole 206 enriched uranium from newc how can you call them how can you call a country that would that committed terrorist attack killing an American citizen in American Oil American soil and then they fled to Israel and they not the jdl 1985 Alex Oda he was Christian Palestinian American and he was assassinated by three members of the jdl and they escaped to Israel and America could not get them back because Israel does not want to deliver how how can you call if someone who commit an attempted assassination on an American Diplomat John Gunther Dean our ambassador in Lebanon and he wrote it in his Memoir and he said they and and the American the American did not investigate it what is the most lethal attack on American Naval vessel in history in the Middle East USS Co how many people died I don&amp;#39;t remember but a lot I went and cover how many people injured 37 but that&amp;#39;s not the most lethal the most lethal attack on American Naval V was USS Liberty 9th of June 1967 they were attacked by the Israeli Army and they killed 34 American soldiers injured 171 and they paid $6 million in compensation this is how worth the American lives it is to them that can we call this a friend yes and here&amp;#39;s why okay because it&amp;#39;s messy and it&amp;#39;s a relative assessment and you have the largest Jewish population outside of Israel is in America and they&amp;#39;re people of Pride and prominence uh and the connection politically and culturally has always been strong and it&amp;#39;s a relative assessment you make a checklist going back to the 1950s of what Israel has done that was wrong and now you have to compare it to everybody else in the region that is of any value to you and you wind up with Israel being at the top of the Heap and look I don&amp;#39;t have any problem I I I don&amp;#39;t think the issue is that Israel has been misunderstood as an ally and they&amp;#39;re an enemy I don&amp;#39;t think that&amp;#39;s what it is I think it&amp;#39;s what do 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the beginning not in terms of historical rep reciprocity but on October 8th 7th 8th what should have happened what do you believe should have been the series of events that would have led us to a better place than we&amp;#39;re in now well here&amp;#39;s the problem with they discussing this you always reset the clock at October 7th always but here&amp;#39;s why but you&amp;#39;re missing what what what let I&amp;#39;m not missing I know that the reason remember the video that they circulated about you those punk ass why people on their pages on the right they&amp;#39;re they did they judge you for your reaction yes but they didn&amp;#39;t talk about what they have been doing to before that&amp;#39;s exactly right and I get it October 7th didn&amp;#39;t happen in a vacuum I totally understand but but it&amp;#39;s also about your standard of what kind of retaliation you will submit to as a natural consequence there&amp;#39;s no question that there is a state of Oppression in what&amp;#39;s happening in Palestine Israelis will mention that in polls they&amp;#39;ll say that they don&amp;#39;t like the way it is um except for BB&amp;#39;s government and his ministers which is I believe much more right extreme and anti- Palestine anti-brown let&amp;#39;s say than the Israeli non-brown population um so I know that I know that October 7th wasn&amp;#39;t the beginning I know that for many it was a cry of desperation okay but what was done on October 7th I don&amp;#39;t think is subjective I think objectively was something that was only done to provoke a response you don&amp;#39;t burn Jewish people and think that is is not going to come for you Hamas by all indications which is why it got its leadership out of there was anticipating exactly what happened so assuming that you come in you kill a bunch of their people they&amp;#39;re going to come for you there&amp;#39;s going to be Warfare okay that that&amp;#39;s not a surprise to anybody we would do the same thing okay I you know and scale-wise it was a big deal for Israel what should have happened we&amp;#39;re four months in now plus what do you think should have happened like after the first week do you believe that the world should have said okay that&amp;#39;s enough the numbers you know you&amp;#39;re they killed a, or500 whatever the number is um now you killed 10 they already killed 5,000 in two weeks so let&amp;#39;s say so should it have ended then and if so because that would be great less killing is always better if you are humanistic then what I don&amp;#39;t understand the how of ending this right now I know cease fire I get it but how do I stop I&amp;#39;ll play Israel okay if I stop okay I&amp;#39;ll stop I&amp;#39;m beating you up too much I&amp;#39;m killing too many people I&amp;#39;m killing too many Innocents I&amp;#39;m killing to little Hamas I can&amp;#39;t get you you&amp;#39;re in the tunnels and you have my people who I want back who now I believe as many as a quarter of them are dead already more so they&amp;#39;re supposed to matter I&amp;#39;m not getting you anyway and I&amp;#39;m killing all these Innocents I&amp;#39;ll stop how do they stop and not believe that they&amp;#39;re not going to get attacked by Hamas as soon as Hamas how would Hamas stop not not knowing that they believe that they Israel will do the same here&amp;#39;s here&amp;#39;s the thing about October 7th I really need I think for both of our viewers people who follow me and follow you I think we really need to discuss the stuff that we can share information that I might not know you&amp;#39;ve seen the video I&amp;#39;ve not seen the video the 47 minutes video and I believe that what you&amp;#39;ve seen other than the stuff that we&amp;#39;ve seen you&amp;#39;ve seen people tied up you&amp;#39;ve seen burnt corpses you&amp;#39;ve been mutilated bodies right now I want to talk about I want to talk about two things why is the connection about the Jewish people to is which I don&amp;#39;t I understand is the Jewish people have been persecuted for centuries they&amp;#39;ve been pushed around from one country to another they&amp;#39;ve been burned they&amp;#39;ve been put in gas Chambers I&amp;#39;m I I I really believe that that that kind of generational trauma is a huge thing that you cannot ignore and that is why for them Israel is not just a place it&amp;#39;s not just a country it is an idea that no matter what happens to us in the world we have a place that is strong that can protect us that it will never happen to us again what happened in the bab B under Babylon under the Nazis under the Russians we have that place so I understand that and I understand the shock that happened on October 7th like even that place is not safe anymore so having said that I want you to look at the other side on the other side every day for the Palestinian people is October 7th every day they are kidnapped from their homes every day they are killed every day I&amp;#39;m going to come to the burning I&amp;#39;m come to the atrocities I&amp;#39;m I&amp;#39;m I&amp;#39;m not going to I&amp;#39;m not going to miss anything and I promise you I because here&amp;#39;s the thing about conversation I think that what how people lose conversation is that when I don&amp;#39;t show you the empathy that is deserved for your pain and I understand that so I I I I I see I see that when November November 4th the first exchange between the hostages Israel released 240 children and women 233 of them were never convicted so basically we call them prisoners because they put in Israeli prisoners but but actually they they go in in the houses and they kidnap them on daily basis every single day people are shot well they&amp;#39;ll say it&amp;#39;s a parallel system uh of justice for Israeli citizens many of whom are not Jewish right and then there is this occupied um murky International standard of how you treat people when you are occupying them yes and there&amp;#39;s a different military type Justice but it is also deserving of scrutiny and criticism and you have a lot of people without due process who&amp;#39;ve been held for a long time absolutely for Palestinians they&amp;#39;re sitting at their homes and they&amp;#39;re being kidnapped every day from their homes Israel is the only country in the world that tries children in front of military courts and they have a 99.7 conviction rate there is there&amp;#39;s nowhere in the where you have 99.7 conviction and sometimes it&amp;#39;s but they are terrorists okay zabak 2010 her father her brother her husband were killed and then she posted on Facebook may God unite Us in heaven and because of that Israel went to her house and they detain her for eight months for acts of terrorism so when Israel goes in with civil clothes and kill people in the hospital three like they are terrorists said who Israel who decides so the whole thing about like when when you have out of the 240 people that were released by Israel 107 were children 65 for the age of 18 meaning that they were children when they acted so the the daily kidnapping happens and the daily killing happens there we have just been micro doing it and the the word doesn&amp;#39;t care about it until it until October 7th happens now let&amp;#39;s talk about October 7th October 7th is a [ __ ] atrocity it&amp;#39;s a terrorist attack it&amp;#39;s terrible and no one can ever I cannot even imagine the Israeli and the the Israelis parents and family that went through that and also the Jewish people who as I said they are connected to that place think them it&amp;#39;s a safe haven for them it&amp;#39;s shattering the people who were but but the problem is what happened what we saw yesterday after afterwards Anthony blink Anthony blinkin went on in front of Congress and he testified about an incident where Hamas terrorist went in they goded The Father&amp;#39;s Eyes they they raped the mother they chopped off her breast they amputated the the child leg and they cut the little fingers the the finger of a of a little boy and then they had breakfast and laughing that is a direct testimony from zaka and hulah United two relief groups from Israel that they have actually been exposed that all of the stuff that they said has been lies and they have collected more than $50 million of donations because of these unverified lies and this has been reported by the Israeli media arts Channel 13 and time of Israel so the this shock the allegation a huge part of it is something that you&amp;#39;ve seen burn burn burn bodies but in the same time in Israel people talk about the Hannibal directive where the Israel went in and IND indiscriminately they shot Hellfire missiles from Apaches they shot shells from tanks there is an Israeli Survivor her name is Yasmin porach he came on a podcast and she talked about being in a house with 14 other hostages and 40 terrorists and said everybody was alive and then the Israeli started to to their tanks shooting all the first 40 40 40 were killed the terrorist and 12 out of the 14 hostages were killed that&amp;#39;s an 85% kill rate now let&amp;#39;s talk about the decapitated babies according to the official Israeli records one baby was killed milain 10 month 12 children from the age to 2 to9 36 from the age from uh 12 to 19 a total of 49 innocent children who should never have been killed or even touched on that day the biggest casualty was 421 people from the age of 20 or 40 the total number of people that killed with that day 1,120 people 29 people 373 of them were police and military and 759 civilians no rape no decapitation nothing all of these were refuted even the the the New York time pieace and the guardian retracted them because they were taken for a right so if you have the highest rated official going in and saying lies and now you created this image I&amp;#39;m TR tell you on the October 8th when that happened when I heard that the people were killed and Decap like oh [ __ ] them go in and kill everybody I the Muslim the Arabs like that could because that was the image I had does it make it less horrific that there are just 759 just killed most of them killed by maybe fire Firepower from the Israeli no it&amp;#39;s still horrific but you created that image so people now are prepared and prepped to go in and kill everybody this is this is blind r and what we did right now what what did you say do you say one time it&amp;#39;s like I&amp;#39;m I&amp;#39;m done playing the game I&amp;#39;m done refereeing the game I need to expose the game what we didn&amp;#39;t right right now is investigative journalists the 40 decapitated baby became a myth and everybody now believes so if I talk about them nobody wants to I don&amp;#39;t think everybody believes it and but it was used as an emotional way to suck money 50 million and to allow people to say all right go and kill everybody there&amp;#39;s no question that it was tremendously powerful uh hearing that Al a so when I tell you when I tell you when I when I break down the numbers to you now how do you here&amp;#39;s my problem with breaking down the num it&amp;#39;s not new to me okay I&amp;#39;m sure that you know I&amp;#39;ve heard this uh and I accept it by the way now I can&amp;#39;t say I know but I&amp;#39;ll say I accept it because I can say that about all the numbers absolutely and I can say that about when I was covering war in Iraq and Afghanistan if I don&amp;#39;t see it I don&amp;#39;t I guess I can trust I mean the numbers are always in round numbers you know but these are these are official numbers from the Israel it but I don&amp;#39;t know that that makes them true it&amp;#39;s like you know so who do believe these are the but I&amp;#39;m saying I think it&amp;#39;s a problem okay because why well because of motivation you know if I get attacked and I&amp;#39;m going to give you the description of the damage there&amp;#39;s every incentive for me to exaggerate it because I&amp;#39;m hurt and I want people to know how hurt I am and I certainly don&amp;#39;t want to Discount my hurt so I&amp;#39;m not saying anybody&amp;#39;s lying I&amp;#39;m just saying that but you know why you know why is a person for me because right now as we&amp;#39;re speaking the uncles and the cousins of my children in Gaza they lost all of their homes they are still alive they are all now cramped in one apartment in one building in Rafa and as we speak one bomb can drop on them right now annihilating my whole family and that happened because of lies that were propagated making people accept that Israel can go and do whatever they want that accept accept and again you&amp;#39;re right okay you&amp;#39;re certain certainly right to feel that way this is your family there is a but for analysis you can say but for J October 6 there is no October 7 okay but for October 7 you don&amp;#39;t have what happens after it now even if it&amp;#39;s exaggerated even if some of the things are not true and we&amp;#39;re done to create emotional firestorms okay there is still a reality of brutality terroristic actions atrocities whatever word you want to apply it doesn&amp;#39;t matter call it terrorist I don&amp;#39;t I&amp;#39;m not invested in but I&amp;#39;m saying it doesn&amp;#39;t matter how you break down the numbers and if it&amp;#39;s less than what we know does it matter that it&amp;#39;s less than we what we know yes because you should be aware of what&amp;#39;s exaggerated and what&amp;#39;s acted upon and what&amp;#39;s exploited you&amp;#39;re right on all of it in terms of checking motivations it is still the precipitating cause of what came after it and I believe it was done to create what happened after it now where does this take us the only place that matters which is how do you stop the violence now that&amp;#39;s my only concern about liting litigating the past it&amp;#39;s not that I&amp;#39;m I don&amp;#39;t have a position so it doesn&amp;#39;t matter to me what&amp;#39;s happening right now is a is a classic case of we are treating the symptoms and we&amp;#39;re not treating the Cause right right and what is the cause the cause is that you have h a situation in Palestine that is impossible to maintain you cannot have these the people who live there having no freedom of determination over their own existence and it doesn&amp;#39;t even work for Israel this is a Band-Aid measure for Israel to control its own existence their rationale of it is and your Home Country gets involved early on I I was just told this again I think maybe last last night on my show Egypt didn&amp;#39;t want the Palestinians nobody in the region wanted the Palestinians um the unspoken truth of the Arab Brotherhood is that the Palestinians don&amp;#39;t really count and are disrespected and Egypt said they can&amp;#39;t come here because we have too many Jordan said we&amp;#39;re like all Palestinians here they can&amp;#39;t come here and that is the counter narrative okay I I I I can answer that CG although Egypt did say early on we&amp;#39;re not saying they can&amp;#39;t we&amp;#39;re saying we shouldn&amp;#39;t they shouldn&amp;#39;t have they have home you see you see this is again one of the talking points that get repeated and people don&amp;#39;t know the reality behind it people say Arab people do not accept Palestinians first of all there are 2.5 million Palestinians in Jordan already there are 4,600 Palestinians in Lebanon already there are 5,900 people in Syria already Egypt my wife has had had like uh a refugee document so we have many but we don&amp;#39;t count them you know why because we don&amp;#39;t treat them as refugees we treat them as part of the country right so Saudi Arabia UAE Kuwait hundreds of thousands of pales we&amp;#39;ve already taken a lot but when we take them we basically allowing Israel to do what they want which is evacuating the land from Israel and the whole thing about like we&amp;#39;re killing them why don&amp;#39;t you take them is like you going out in the street shooting someone in the face and you&amp;#39;re angry at your neighbors for not burying him it&amp;#39;s cra crazy I I it&amp;#39;s just you&amp;#39;re basically blaming the people that don&amp;#39;t want to take them but you don&amp;#39;t blame the the the side of the conflict that&amp;#39;s doing the killing it&amp;#39;s Madness it doesn&amp;#39;t make any sense it it doesn&amp;#39;t make sense I also don&amp;#39;t think and also also for for is I&amp;#39;m Israeli let&amp;#39;s say some miracle Egypt says today all right let&amp;#39;s take them 2.2 million people goes in into the Sinai they have access to the Sea what do you think these 2.2 Milli they&amp;#39;re going to just sit there they&amp;#39;re going to retaliate try to come back they&amp;#39;re going to have the sea open for them now they&amp;#39;re going to have Israel like controlling this it&amp;#39;s going to be the Egyptian problems and then and then they&amp;#39;re going to have they&amp;#39;re going to have weapons they going to have an open an open desert in the S is this safer for Israel right everywhere it&amp;#39;s like Yemen now now now you got you&amp;#39;re going to create like a like a very very unstable Focus that&amp;#39;s not going to be good for Egypt nor good for for Israel so it&amp;#39;s not even so it&amp;#39;s not here here&amp;#39;s the here&amp;#39;s the thing do do you do you notice how the pro-israeli people talk about the West Bank they say Judea and Samaria AKA West Bank Judea and Samaria AKA Westbank they already changing it yeah because if they can do to that to 2.2 million people in Gaza in a few years from now they&amp;#39;re GNA find another Hamas in West Bank and they&amp;#39;re going to bomb the West Bank H is growing in popularity in the West Bank now because Happ of course of course enemy of my enemy is my hero okay and the thing is you you have already the 3.5 people they have no rights they have the land is being taken away from like a Jewish person from Poland can land in Israel take a land of a of a palestin that&amp;#39;s been living there for 600 years doesn&amp;#39;t make any sense so and now they&amp;#39;re going to push people into Jordan like why doesn&amp;#39;t Jordan take them why doesn&amp;#39;t Saudi Arabia take them and here&amp;#39;s the thing about my relationship with Israel growing up I had absolutely no problem with Israel of course they are our enemies we we fought for Wars with them but I was one of those people who really liked Sadat for doing the peace process because and and I know that we we we were like you know we dealt short the negotiation was bad Kissinger was he was like a master but like but at the end of the day we took Sinai and peace no more war no more war no more I&amp;#39;m I&amp;#39;m like but please any let&amp;#39;s have whatever compromise but no more war so I have no problem with Israel existing and when people like is like where you where you going to there&amp;#39;s like there not me 9 million people where are they going to go it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s complim and a lot of people hate me for having this very C interest very but I said I was I was practical but then I see those people who have a lot of people in the Arab world acknowledging their existence okay have you they&amp;#39;re not acknowledging other people existence they&amp;#39;re not acknowledging the Palestinians they not they&amp;#39;re even becoming to to question my existence as the Egyptian because now you see I&amp;#39;m I&amp;#39;m not talking about like people on Facebook I&amp;#39;m talking about official ministers they are going there in rallies and having the greater Israel map behind them what does that tell you from the to the Euphrates that is they&amp;#39;re basically swallowing eight Arab countries half of Egypt half of Iraq all of Palestine Lebanon Syria Jordan parts of Saudi Arabia and and parts of turkey so when you when you get me that wait I&amp;#39;ve been accepting you all your life and now you are accepting me so I want to tell I want to tell the Israelis I want tell the people who say that isra the that the Jews people have more right in this land more the Palestinian I have one question for them explain to me why is that so without using religion without using religion yeah I understand the point because what do they say because like God gave it to us which God we are the chosen one chosen by whom it&amp;#39;s a Promised Land promis by whom your God it&amp;#39;s not my God I I don&amp;#39;t think any of it should be based on Rel so so yeah but but here&amp;#39;s the thing all of like the liberal Zionist the the I&amp;#39;m talking about the liberal Zionist now who like support Israel this like we are secular we&amp;#39;re Democratic we we separation of of church and and state and when it talks about Israel it&amp;#39;s biblical all of a sudden it&amp;#39;s biblical it&amp;#39;s because of the Holocaust what did we have to do with it no it&amp;#39;s not just because of the Holocaust it&amp;#39;s because when the issue becomes whether people want Jewish people to exist Israel to exist you&amp;#39;re making it existential uh and what does make them different is their faith uh and as an extension of that you know the blood of people in that faith and you know from The River To The Sea uh scares those but you know but you know who came up with this you what Israel yeah the LI party chter 1977 haven&amp;#39;t you read it but it&amp;#39;s not but it&amp;#39;s not who&amp;#39;s using it now you you you want to you want to hear it says like this the right no no the rights of the Jewish people in the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and it is important for our and it it connects to the right of our peace and security therefore Judea and Samaria will never be handed to a foreign administration from the sea to the Jordan there only be Israeli sovereignty we just make it rhyme better you make it rhyme better but it&amp;#39;s like have you read but the thing is they this is what Israel does they do stuff and they project it on you those people who are chanting from the river to the Palestinian and you can&amp;#39;t blame the people for chanting for them because they&amp;#39;re desperate they don&amp;#39;t have a superpower supporting them they don&amp;#39;t have the international media supporting them and all of that can see and they go and shout and they chant in the streets but the official Charter of Israel the official the official people they&amp;#39;re they they&amp;#39;re talking about from the rivers to the Sea greater Israel so how can you compare compare people in the streets or Facebook by the official stand of the Israeli government Israel is not trying to expand its borders into turkey and Iraq and that&amp;#39;s not going to happen Okay well we we we thought we we thought that CL was not going to happen and we thought that we thought the illegal settlement would not this has been happening since Israel was formed in one way or another okay and I believe it&amp;#39;s a situation where the problem has always worked better than any solution kind of like our Southern border things that frighten people things that keep people divided things that keep people angry are a very good control mechanism and I always have wondered when I&amp;#39;ve worked in that part of the world what would they do here if they didn&amp;#39;t hate each other like you know if it wasn&amp;#39;t for oil and hatred I wonder and maybe circumcision because we all have our dicks cut so we are we angry at each other the whole time imagine like that&amp;#39;s why Muslims and Jews are in fight because we they cut our early age and we were just like angry at each other here&amp;#39;s what&amp;#39;s wrong with you now somebody is going to take a clip of me laughing out of context because you happen to be 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he feels about it I said I get it that if you focus on healing and what matters for people what you&amp;#39;re doing with laughter what you&amp;#39;re doing with instructive humor what you&amp;#39;re doing with satire is so powerful and it is it can be healing I think the dialogue is healing look it&amp;#39;s I&amp;#39;m loving this it&amp;#39;s easy for me to have the conversation though because I&amp;#39;m not emotionally and personally vested the way you are and the way Jewish people are um I have a lot of Jews in my life I have Jews in my family but I I have Arabs in my life I have Muslims in my life I don&amp;#39;t have them in my family as far as I know but it doesn&amp;#39;t matter to me but it&amp;#39;s easier for me to have the conversation I don&amp;#39;t have blood on the line um the way other people do and I respect that a lot of Americans don&amp;#39;t they believe they can own an issue even though they have no part of it some people with more extended value than others like I understand why black people have an affinity to seeing minorities oppressed in other places of the world I understand that I understand why they would see commonality I get it and I think it&amp;#39;s important to engage it I do think that a lot of the explanations have their place but are also a distraction from the present like blinkin is over there Israel just said no to the latest you know I don&amp;#39;t know when you&amp;#39;re going to be watching this but it&amp;#39;ll probably be true five times between now and whenever this ends whatever that means that Israel is saying no no no this phase deal it&amp;#39;s too long we&amp;#39;re not getting enough I don&amp;#39;t understand how this ends in a way I&amp;#39;ll be honest with you I don&amp;#39;t know how it ends at all hon well well again we we we you ask a question I told you go back to the root of the problem that we do in medicine and and and I&amp;#39;m telling you you do an incredible job because I&amp;#39;ve watched you many times you have an ability you&amp;#39;re you&amp;#39;re an empath you put your yourself in other people&amp;#39;s shoes so you can understand and I I respect that about you you&amp;#39;re you&amp;#39;re you&amp;#39;re a big empath you you&amp;#39;re empathic with people and and sometimes when I tell people put your your your yourself into the other people&amp;#39;s shoes and someone who does that beautifully is Gideon leevy the isra reporter wonderful wonderful and he he&amp;#39;s very fair he&amp;#39;s very he&amp;#39;s an Israeli reporter and I he is very fair and sometimes when when because it seems that for so long and I&amp;#39;m sorry to say this people don&amp;#39;t want to hear anything from the Arab side so I use Israeli quotes and one of my favorite quotes believe it or not is what by borian the was the George Washington of Israel he said and this is this is a quote from the book The Jewish Paradox by Nahum Goldman he said if I was an Arab leader I would not sign an agreement with Israel it&amp;#39;s natural we took their land I mean yes God promised it to us but our God is not theirs why would they accept it why would that mean anything to us yes there was anti-Semitism Nazis the Jews osit but why would they pay for it we are coming here to take their land and see you don&amp;#39;t not accept it that is a direct quote by the founder of Israel and he in another speech 1938 he said let&amp;#39;s let&amp;#39;s let&amp;#39;s let&amp;#39;s be true to ourself politically we are the oppressors and they defend themselves we&amp;#39;re coming here to inhabit and they&amp;#39;re already here and then he said something mindblowing he said behind the terrorism by Arabs is a movement though primitive but yet it is not the voice of idealism and self-sacrifice this the I can just like take those two two quotes and put in front of everybody everybody somebody will say ham I will tell him B 2019 in party said in order to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian State someone bolster hamus give them money we&amp;#39;ve been doing that that&amp;#39;s been our strategy so I don&amp;#39;t understand like the the cognitive dissidence that people came me like ham October 7th and guys don&amp;#39;t you see what you&amp;#39;re doing there&amp;#39;s a Contin like in 2001 in in the video with n I&amp;#39;m sure you&amp;#39;ve seen that video when they say like uh I have sabotaged the O Law Courts as he was like proud of it and he was just dissing America and and and quotes from him when he&amp;#39;s younger on television saying no I don&amp;#39;t think that there&amp;#39;s a right to a Palestinian state so you see all of that and people say it&amp;#39;s the Palestinian F so when you push people for a certain limit when you continue to dealing people like animals they will behave like animals listen we&amp;#39;ve seen that time and again in this country okay um and yet the story of Humanity on this planet is exactly this pattern repeated again and again and again in this country um these were occupiers who came here with they may say manifest Destin but it wasn&amp;#39;t rooted in the mythology of God telling them the way it is with the Jews to expose and and and this isn&amp;#39;t this isn&amp;#39;t my thought but I did hear it and it does resonate with me which is this happens okay and right wrong good bad Wars are fought lines move people are placed and displaced okay it happens all the time and this area I mean there&amp;#39;s so many people in Africa right now who want to have exactly the same conversation about how they&amp;#39;ve been displaced and how wrong it is and how much violence there is and killing and it&amp;#39;s happening in in Yemen also it&amp;#39;s happening all over the place it&amp;#39;s happening in China with a million weager Muslims that we don&amp;#39;t know what&amp;#39;s happening with them we don&amp;#39;t anything so here everybody&amp;#39;s focused on here as if this is so wrong and it can never be right these situations all get solved there&amp;#39;ll be waves of trouble there&amp;#39;ll there be more there&amp;#39;ll be outgrowth there&amp;#39;ll be fighting okay it happens around the world but only this situation in our lifetime has been impossible to move the line for anything but a tenuous period And I believe that&amp;#39;s because the problem works better than a solution but we know what needs to happen right you need Israel out of these places you need a compromised border agreement about where they are and what land they can get and what land&amp;#39;s going to be here and it can&amp;#39;t be part of Faith because you have to divorce yourself from godspeak at some point if if you want to deal with reality okay and I&amp;#39;m not anti-religion I&amp;#39;m not telling people not to be religious no we know we know we know we see what happens when you put religion in policy it&amp;#39;s messy but this is what happens th this is what happens again and again and again um is that they have to leave some places they get to stay some places and Israel should not be in control of Palestine Palestine should they just can&amp;#39;t have a terror organization that is seen as a state sponsor of Terror as the head of the organization so Hamas has to go and they need real elections real things and they&amp;#39;ll struggle like everybody else like we&amp;#39;re struggling right now but but H is a Hamas is a product of the situation I get it it is a but but but here the thing is you you said something like why is this particular issue is not resolved for a very very obvious reason because the the greatest country in the world the most powerful country in the world has been the sponsoring Israel and I have mentioned this before the during the history since the Inception of Security Council America used the vet2 86 85 84 times it&amp;#39;s always about Israel and they use the vet to protect Israel 56 times it&amp;#39;s crazy that is not and now with when Biden by the Joe Biden Jo geriatric genocide Biden that&amp;#39;s that&amp;#39;s that&amp;#39;s his nickname now John like Joe geriatric genocide Biden because he is supporting genocide and people are telling even people in his own party it&amp;#39;s like you have to stop how many more do you feel okay October 8th October 9th October 7th how many more it&amp;#39;s not working the rage is not working what did the rage get us in Afghanistan and Iraq million Iraqi de $2 trillion spend all of these American being killed in Iraq did it solve anything did the rage did they angst did it solve anything no so is there in like one sane person to say this has to stop Israel takes money from us I&amp;#39;m speaking now as an American citizen I don&amp;#39;t know why my representatives are wearing IDF uniforms in the Congress Brian Mast Brian Mast is wearing an IDF uniform in the Congress and now when you look to his finances he received $11,000 what do you mean he&amp;#39;s wearing an IDF uniform Brian Mast you can look it up Brian Mast the Congress man from Florida he was wearing an IDF uniform in Congress in lobby he&amp;#39;s going around showing his IDF military Congress because after he lost his legs in 2010 right he went in and he lost his loyalty to the United States and he he he volunteered in the IDF and he&amp;#39;s not even Jewish he&amp;#39;s Christian he&amp;#39;s a Christian Zionist and he comes back and there&amp;#39;s video you can look it up he&amp;#39;s like I wish more children are dead in Gaza is Rashid put in like the green Hames bandana and said like I wish Jewish people were killed oh my God she&amp;#39; be lynched but like this is like a congress person he receives $101,000 from APAC and his next seven donors combined they gave him $92,000 is this if if this is not buying politics for an foreign agent I don&amp;#39;t know what is what is what happens if America doesn&amp;#39;t support Israel I&amp;#39;m not support it but be fair Force Israel to stop building the settlement Force Israel to be just this is the whole idea why do you think America gives $2.3 billion to Egypt it is linked to the peace treaty with Israel like why do you think we give $3.8 billion to Israel and it&amp;#39;s not about that as an American citizen again what it there are a lot of people in this country right now a growing population who says we shouldn&amp;#39;t give money to Egypt we shouldn&amp;#39;t money to any of those places let you guys fight it out there&amp;#39;s a good chance Israel&amp;#39;s going to kick your ass and then let it happen Israel will not kick anybody&amp;#39;s ass without America support because right now in an area of 365 km S I know but here&amp;#39;s the thing but here&amp;#39;s the thing here&amp;#39;s the thing weapons will always make their way to people who need them and want them I understand but America America being the superpower of the world comes with responsibility being the boss of the work comes with responsibil they say that this that and the US government position is this is exercising its respons otherwi theion will destroy isra okay how you will not destroy anybody if you if it&amp;#39;s about compromis and giving people what they want and they need because Israel what they want and need is to get rid of Israel not really not really because like lot of people say it and a lot of people don&amp;#39;t I don&amp;#39;t think that Saudi Arabia the leadership in Saudi Arabia want to destroy Israel I don&amp;#39;t think that leadership in Jordan or in Egypt are wanting to destroy you talking about ham and Iran and if you get more people involved and give Justice to the people you know what happens you feed the radicals by being unjust that&amp;#39;s always been true yes so anger and violence makes radicals take over they&amp;#39;re making a new generation of enemies right now as we speak and the 27,000 people were killed a reporter lost seven of his family seven people of family sharak a Palestinian American she was killed an Israelite for about it for a year The Continuous lying this this like but so what happened so but as as an as an American like when I tell you when when I when you know when you know the amount of money that goes to Israel tax exempt how do you talk to a teacher in Delaware making minimum wage or someone in in Mississippi who is trying to fight to do tax and he sees hundreds of millions of of dollars in donation feeding illegal settlements and their tax exempt how does this work Bess we have a military-industrial complex this country that gobbles up so much budg so disproportionate and we give it for all kinds of reasons good bad and indifferent all over the world if Americans were to ever really truly measure their lives needs and wants as a function of what is given abroad and vote on that the world would be in big trouble because Americans in a vote I don&amp;#39;t know that it comes out that we&amp;#39;re giving foreign aid 10 on the dollar to what we&amp;#39;re giv right now so the idea that teachers are underserved true because of the money we give to Israel please there&amp;#39;s money given to so many different things yes and I want them all and I want them all to be checked and I want them all all of them to be very to be revised because I as an American I don&amp;#39;t want our money my Tex PA money going all around there and I know that people make comparison between Israel other but again I&amp;#39;m telling you the special treatment Israel gets it could not be compared people talk about Saudi Arabia for example Saud Arabia Saudi Arabia defense budget is 775 billion $75 billion where do you think this money goes goes to America actually pragmatically putting like all morals aside Saudi Arabia is actually supporting the American economy because they&amp;#39;re giving so much money to all of these weapons all right the Saudi Arabia like The Sovereign I think the Sovereign must have about like six60 billion do in American Banks while Israel has been and I&amp;#39;m talking not as an Arab or as a Muslim as financially Israel is is sucking us dry there is UN un unanticipated $1.6 billion that America has to come with because of the of the war America has a moral commitment to Israel why and a strategic commitment uh why is it strategic people hate America because of Israel if people say what why people people hate Can America Trust in the region to be as good an ally did you try did you try other allies did you try did you try we just like being why why why don&amp;#39;t we explore all of these I mean the recent American Experience would say as uh former president Trump announced in one sentence Islam hates us remember that oh my God when he said that and how it resonated I thought that that line how many times have I been wrong about this when he said those words I said that&amp;#39;s it he&amp;#39;s done that is he just convicted a 1.5 billion people of hating America and yet his people go go out in Martian and say Jews will not replace us it doesn&amp;#39;t make make any sense Chris the thing is like you can talk about yes do Muslims hate America a lot of Muslims hate America of course but they do that because of their the same way that a lot of Jews hate people because of Israel a lot of people true but the American Experience is they&amp;#39;ve never heard Israel say we hate America and after they don&amp;#39;t say it but they act like they do after 911 in the American experience that entire part of the world celebrated absolutely and and and and every day every time there is a that falls on Gaza people in Israel also celebrate have you heard about Cinema Sid yes all right have you heard about the pancake celebration for killing of Rachel Cory the American citizen under bulldozer that Bena said like she&amp;#39;s a fool so I mean you give me one example I&amp;#39;ll give you 10 from the other side seriously it just like the it the focus is on oh no I could give you a 100 examples the point is yes the point is look hurt people hurt people yes right I know and angry people do Angry things and again I don&amp;#39;t want to erase Israel I don&amp;#39;t want people I don&amp;#39;t want because this is this is but how do you stop it I&amp;#39;m not asking you to solve it we sitting you&amp;#39;re a doctor and it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s really about Justice it&amp;#39;s like if you what do you do what do you do I give you the wand okay I mean I know go back to 2000 where there now what do you do now go back to 2000 to that that area and just sit with the Palestinians and give them the land it&amp;#39;s about Land versus peace and we so all Israelis must leave leave Gaza and the West Bank I mean that&amp;#39;s part of it yeah but they I mean again I&amp;#39;m I&amp;#39;m not a Palestinian negotiator and I cannot give you the best way but what I&amp;#39;m telling you what is happening right now is not sustainable and and the problem is these discussions like what happens the day after but it&amp;#39;s not sustainable anyway you look at it Bess the United continue the killing and nobody is going to say if they&amp;#39;re speaking from their heart I want more people to die um right but also you can say I don&amp;#39;t know what else to do well but I don&amp;#39;t know what what to do I but but the thing is we can always say What&amp;#39;s Happening Now is wrong I don&amp;#39;t know what should happen but it&amp;#39;s not that and then the people who yeah yeah so so so whatever is should be done is not that I age and it has to stop because you canot because here&amp;#39;s the thing you know what really pissed me off about Western media I they wasted so much time what&amp;#39;s the proportionate response what&amp;#39;s the proportionate response they&amp;#39;re stalling they&amp;#39;re stalling well but that&amp;#39;s because that&amp;#39;s because the death count kept being used as the only measure of the situation and we didn&amp;#39;t do that when we went to Iraq and Afghanistan people have no idea how many people Americans in the social media there so people very important Point um but but uh if this had been America okay this is something that I think is not fair to Israel we are asking them to do things that we would have never done okay if you took aund something Americans now I know people are going to say what are you talking about they&amp;#39;re Americans being held all over the place in Iran and other places and we don&amp;#39;t fight to get them back Russia it&amp;#39;s true it&amp;#39;s true I think America does more than a lot of other countries to get its people back but it&amp;#39;s far from perfect I agree but if you took the Americans in the way that they were taken on October 7th and you didn&amp;#39;t give them back immediately that place would be ashes right now good so it no no not good not good no no no I agree with you that&amp;#39;s what America would do and that&amp;#39;s what Americans would want I I agree okay so so let&amp;#39;s kill everybody no I mean because the thing is immediately immediately happened immediately happened four months ago it happened October 8th and October 9th and October 10th and November October how much longer but why isn&amp;#39;t there pressure because you cannot listen you cannot wipe up har no no no you can&amp;#39;t so the whole idea we going to keep killing until we get lucky we it can&amp;#39;t happen and and the thing is like people believe the most outrageous thing you know have you read Patrick kingley when he said there&amp;#39;s like 450 miles of tunnel do you believe that seriously like the the N the New York subway exaggerated like everything else New York Subway system in total is 433 it&amp;#39;s probably exaggerated like everything else it&amp;#39;s not exaggerated he&amp;#39;s like the New York Times has been a mouthpiece of Israel IM media they are not even challenging anything and this idea of lies and lies and lies and lies and lies they are pathological Liars here&amp;#39;s here&amp;#39;s my point not a point it&amp;#39;s a question and I don&amp;#39;t even like framing it this way but again we&amp;#39;re operating from a place where we&amp;#39;re all lost with this nobody should like the status quo and nobody seems to make so lost to just say cease fire and then is how about how about is the solution cease fire and let&amp;#39;s talk about it what the UN said early on and now everybody hates everything every institution un&amp;#39;s no good nothing&amp;#39;s good give back all the people live or dead give them back in three days cuz I&amp;#39;m sure it&amp;#39;ll take you time and three is a good bit biblical number give back all the people and we will cease fire right there&amp;#39;ll be an Armistice at least right you&amp;#39;ll you&amp;#39;ll stop doing what you&amp;#39;re doing we&amp;#39;ll stop doing what we&amp;#39;re doing tell Hezbollah stop doing what they&amp;#39;re doing tell houthis stop doing what they&amp;#39;re doing everybody stops even if that were achievable nobody&amp;#39;s requiring the first element every time there&amp;#39;s a deal on the table the UN said early on give back all of the hostages unconditionally it was never even considered as a deal point and in America it would be deal point1 yes yes I know what you want we don&amp;#39;t negotiate with terrorists but let&amp;#39;s put that to the side give us back all our people or we&amp;#39;re going to come and it&amp;#39;s never going to stop yeah but you understand that like also there is they want their people you understand there&amp;#39;s there&amp;#39;s hostage in their people if I were Israel I would empty all the fac if you heard them all back but also in Paris today Israel also refused that because there was because there was a whole there&amp;#39;s a a deal on the table for a permanent ceasefire and just like a total exchange of everybody because also I mean again put yourself in in in those Hamas shoes it&amp;#39;s like oh I&amp;#39;m going to give them I have no leverage going to come in and kill us that&amp;#39;s right so basically you want something that would give a kind of a permanent solution and the permanent solution ceasefire exchange everybody and let&amp;#39;s sit down and talk and make sure this will not happen again Hamas listen I&amp;#39;m not here to defend Hamas I don&amp;#39;t you&amp;#39;re defending them you are Hamas Defender you look like you could be my cousin but you&amp;#39;re Hamas Defender but by the way by the we are cousins but by the way but but but like so I I I don&amp;#39;t know but like again I think what is the solution not disce yes and I&amp;#39;m sure that we agree on this because this is too much this is too much and and the people who were killed and injured they and their families are not going to be friends with Israel they&amp;#39;re going to not going to like them you have created a permanent problem for years to come you have created a million Hamas you have created and you have created resistance in is not have yeah yeah and and yes and in America and and that happened because of what was happening before October 7th it doesn&amp;#39;t start at October 7th so the thing is this is one of the even in mideval ages Chris people stopped so people can bury their dead people in Gaza cannot even have this luxury like it it is just like heartbreaking they are they are blocking the aid trucks they&amp;#39;re blocking everything I totally agree the humanitarian aspect of it has been mismanaged and wrong stop let&amp;#39;s do what evil people did and just have time bre and then talk because you cannot talk about like what will happen after until you&amp;#39;ve you&amp;#39;re done with this done with this ham stopped doing [ __ ] is there has to be more conversation and pressure to give the people back I get that it&amp;#39;s leverage then then then then you you have Saudi Arabia you have Egypt you have qar you have all of the players they sit with take the hostages and send them to Cutter and let them let them be taken care of no I I I&amp;#39;m I&amp;#39;m fine with like total exchange but this is the question what happens the day after and what happens the day after could not be discussed until today we finish we finish this war because this has to stop because they like what will happen if they come to us you&amp;#39;ve been doing this for six months but who says Don&amp;#39;t Stop except certain Hawks in America uh who believe like this line of they can&amp;#39;t stop until they get rid of Hamas I am always surprised they&amp;#39;re isolated they&amp;#39;re they&amp;#39;re not no but it doesn&amp;#39;t matter about the human beings it&amp;#39;s the idea tonight I&amp;#39;m going to have someone as is often the case on my show all these people are much more sophisticated U than I am they&amp;#39;re all exports in their areas so I&amp;#39;m going to have a national security expert on tonight and he&amp;#39;s going to say Israel can&amp;#39;t stop until they end Hamas oh like we did like we did right um Israel&amp;#39;s formidable okay they&amp;#39;re not us all right um and I watched what we did in there and I watched how we used every arrow in the quiver in terms of we&amp;#39;re going to give you money we&amp;#39;re going to going to help build with this we&amp;#39;re going to bring in professionals we&amp;#39;re going to firebomb everything you know we&amp;#39;re going to do everything and Isis is backing on the game Taliban is backing on the gain Al-Qaeda is becoming a brand again and spreading around um you can&amp;#39;t kill an idea by killing the people who believe it you have to replace it with a better idea and there&amp;#39;s a reason that these ideas take root among the poorest least educated most desperate not always but but in general and that is true here also you don&amp;#39;t kill Hamas you find a tunnel let&amp;#39;s say everybody from Hamas is in the tunnel even though I don&amp;#39;t even know what that means anymore because as you say the enemy of my enemy is my friend now I&amp;#39;m living in a hellscape I&amp;#39;m like I&amp;#39;m living in Thunderdome in Gaza uh all I know is that uh Israel and it seems like everyone in the world wants to kill me every five minutes I&amp;#39;m in favor of anybody who&amp;#39;s fighting for me um and people who say oh come on you&amp;#39;re being a little dramatic oh really because that&amp;#39;s not happening in America right now trumpism isn&amp;#39;t about that right Trump is just such a magnetic genius leader with all the answers for our country that people follow him of course not he&amp;#39;s an agent of animus he is a product of grievance that is Justified in many many cases they see him they don&amp;#39;t want to be like him except the money if it&amp;#39;s real right they don&amp;#39;t want him to marry their sister right they don&amp;#39;t want to go into business with him right but he is protect ing them against the things they fear more strong man image but that&amp;#39;s the same thing it&amp;#39;s an extraction of the same human principle you&amp;#39;re not going to out root out Hamas you would have to have that population with a lot of foreign help say we&amp;#39;re going to give you yourselves back okay you&amp;#39;re going to we&amp;#39;re going to help you have real elections to the extent they even exist anymore no Hamas maybe it&amp;#39;ll be the same people who now have a new party name or whatever they call but but but again all of those people who like like but they pushed into radicalism right you talk about the reason that pushed them into radicalism right and I understand that also the radical government in Israel is feeding of that fear and if the if the radicals get the the in control of things everybody loses I don&amp;#39;t want Hamas to continue because their existence should be nullified by having people taking their rights I don&amp;#39;t want Israelis to be wiped out or killed and I think and and I was actually I was I was heartbroken when I read this report by Dan Cohen he&amp;#39;s an Israeli Jewish uh uh new journalist who leaked this audio from Z zav viot he&amp;#39;s a right-wing leader with Netanyahu when they were actually negotiating with the parents of the hostage just like they&amp;#39;re pawns they&amp;#39;re going to we&amp;#39;re just going to get rid of them and you have to accept that the people in Israel doesn&amp;#39;t want that happening it&amp;#39;s true doesn&amp;#39;t want that happening that&amp;#39;s very true the families of the hostages have become a very powerful entity I I I I I cannot if I&amp;#39;m if my son was there I can&amp;#39;t even imagine what I would be going through if it was like locked up in a tunnel with some people of course you would hate everybody I would hate everybody but I also but but but as you go through the the hate and you go all the rage you need to know what works because hate might not be the answer and you&amp;#39;ve said it before we went after K went after Gan WD that never existed million Iraqi killed all of these soldiers killed not just in Iraq but like American soldiers and the veterans and the people lost limbs and and and and and and they and they&amp;#39;re like crippled for the rest of their lives for what for what for a rage for anger that is not true and the thing is like if anything we should learn from our mistakes but we they say history keep repeating itself no because people are stupid and they continue to repeat their own mistakes but it is The Human Experience yeah Sana was right those who fail to remember the lessons of History are doomed to repeat it but what idea was he facilitating it&amp;#39;s not that you don&amp;#39;t remember the lessons of History a part of this is education ignorance knowing and that&amp;#39;s one of the beautiful gifts that you gave the audience today is incredible context but it&amp;#39;s that you don&amp;#39;t want to do it differently because it serves it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s it&amp;#39;s self- serving there is very little reason for power if there is no fear yeah you really don&amp;#39;t need to give me any agency over your life and I&amp;#39;ll give it to you a lot of the Arab regimes use the idea of Israel to to gain control people use the idea of fear like Mexicans Arabs Muslims Jews you need an enemy you need an enemy to to propagate to to to maintain control over people because how can you control their masses if it&amp;#39;s not for fear it&amp;#39;s true yeah it is true and it&amp;#39;s always been been true and for people who see it as a developing World thing it can be more obvious more grotesque more obvious more ugly but it&amp;#39;s just as real as what&amp;#39;s happening in our two-party system that&amp;#39;s 100% uh the the southern border that we&amp;#39;re obsessed with I have never seen a problem in my life because even this it&amp;#39;s not as easy or as simple as I&amp;#39;m making it but sometimes I try to reduce things to the simple just to kind of create some energy of hope you know the southern border is kind of simple it&amp;#39;s not the Middle East okay there is no Gods speak involved in it and there aren&amp;#39;t decades and Decades of dead and uh Legacy effect okay but we don&amp;#39;t fix it why because it&amp;#39;s a great Boogeyman and it allows the right to say these Democrats are crazy they&amp;#39;re going to get you killed these are savages coming across you hear about the 24,000 Chinese that just crossed in San Diego what is that about it&amp;#39;s scary and you know you can fix it you know it&amp;#39;s never about the problem it&amp;#39;s how you man manipulate it and use it that&amp;#39;s right it could be about anything could be land borders gender how can we find ways so we can fight with each other that&amp;#39;s right I got Pitch fear fear is the commodity right I got pitched a story there is a fungus infection a fungal infection it&amp;#39;s eating holes in people&amp;#39;s lung tissue they think they have cases in all 50 states they wanted me to jump on this like it&amp;#39;s the new pandemic I said well how many cases in every state I was like there&amp;#39;s something killing everybody in every state you know what I mean if by that by that measure all I should talk about every night on my show is fenel if I want to talk about who&amp;#39;s what&amp;#39;s killing the most Americans in the most places most by surprise it&amp;#39;s fent or your car is killing you right most people di in car accient whatever it is it&amp;#39;s your cell phone don&amp;#39;t put it near your head how do I talk to you so fear is a commodity and I think one of the most uh why I wanted to talk to you so much is one because I wanted to encourage you once you deal with the tour and get the special You&amp;#39; got to have a platform bessam and I can say produce it for me produced by Chris Kumo I you&amp;#39;re going to get a lot better than me who going to want to produce your show the combination uh and Stuart has this also too he doesn&amp;#39;t like me but I I like him the intelligence the knowledge The Human Experience and what you flatter me with which is nowhere near as true with me as it is with you you can feel with your heart as well as your head what the competing exigencies are and I&amp;#39;ve heard you do it on a lot of things you just this is this is timely so people uh grabbed on to you with what they heard Pierce Morgan not unlike what happened with um uh Hassan YF uh the the green Prince the son of Hamas oh uh he resonated in the same way because this guy his father is the head of one of the heads of Hamas and now he&amp;#39;s become so inflamed that he&amp;#39;s saying things that I I can&amp;#39;t believe he&amp;#39;s saying um because we&amp;#39;re desperate for voices that have some kind of context and understanding what people aren&amp;#39;t used to here is and again it&amp;#39;s because I don&amp;#39;t take any ownership of a side I just want it to stop and I cover the humanitarian things because it&amp;#39;s obvious I I cover uh the existential issues for Israel because they&amp;#39;re obvious but all I want is for it to stop to the extent that that matters I do sometimes wonder in my cynical moments do we want this to stop or is this kind of good for business one way or another like is this is this kind of good definitely good for many businesses the military industrial complex for media for sensationalist for it it is it is crazy I got to let you go Bess I I I we putting all of this on internet because I hope it is because it is such a beautiful discussion every single word that&amp;#39;s amazing and here&amp;#39;s how it must end you are busy but I think you have a responsibility and a talent that is different than a lot of funny people thank you and you are funny people are going to be surprised how funny you are don&amp;#39;t uh sell yourself short about language uh your language is beautiful and eloquent thank you and you are funny well you&amp;#39;re going to come to my show I&amp;#39;m going to come to your show next week even though I do not like going to New Jersey me me neither I&amp;#39;m coming I&amp;#39;m coming for you um and you have an open invitation on my show thank you wherever you are whenever you want it and what I will do to make that real is I will call you on a regular basis and you are free to say no without insult 99 but I&amp;#39;m saying it&amp;#39;s okay you&amp;#39;re busy you have other things there are other shows but I want you to have a platform we need the voice and the experience of somebody who lives The Experience thank you and that&amp;#39;s all I want is for better Minds to help influence people who want to make decisions for themselves I appreciate that and you&amp;#39;ve helped me with that thank you so much thank you brother thank you this has been an amazing amazing this is actually one of my best interviews ever because today today it&amp;#39;s one of your best ones you see you could have you thought of stand up Chris thank you thank you so much Chris Bess MF my Italian brother all success to you in everything that you do and I hope there&amp;#39;s a lot more to come thank you so [Music] much I will offer him a platform on my news Nation show whenever he wants it because it is in the diversity of voices even if it&amp;#39;s uncomfortable even if you don&amp;#39;t like it you have to understand what you think you oppose otherwise you&amp;#39;re going to become what you oppose that&amp;#39;s what happens whenever belief lives in a vacuum we&amp;#39;ve seen it again and again do I like everything I said do I agree with it do I feel the same way it&amp;#39;s irrelevant I&amp;#39;m not a stakeholder except as an American citizen and as a citizen of the world who doesn&amp;#39;t believe that violence is going to get us to a better place cuz it never has but I&amp;#39;ll tell you I want to hear from him and I want to hear from others like him and I want to hear from people who are living the Israeli and the Jewish experience in Israel and here it matters for you to listen with your head as well as your heart and I hope you took something from it other than just feeling anger that maybe you don&amp;#39;t even understand give me your comments give me your questions thank you for subscribing and following and I hope you benefited from the conversation as much as I did

Transcript for:Chris Cuomo Project: Interview with Bassem Youssef

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Chris Cuomo Project: Interview with Bassem Youssef