so what is the idea or the ideal of autonomy it really is an ideal in the sense of it's something that you know is valuable in that we aim for that we should want to have if we can in our lives so everybody cares about different things right big and small I like mint and chip ice cream a lot of people think that that's you know lame stupid and terrible other people like other kinds ice cream doesn't so each person's taste preferences and desires are we're all different the idea of the autonomy is that it's important for people to try to be able to live the kind of lives that they think of worthwhile right we all care about different things we all have different dreams goals aspirations we all probably want to be different kinds of people right some of you are super outgoing people people people people people you know some of you more like me probably and way a bit more introverted that makes for different kind of plans about what you do with your day what do you do with your life and it would really suck if any of us was made to live the kind of life that someone else wanted us to live but a life that didn't seem worthwhile does right so any kind of ideal of freedom of self-determination of Liberty even really what those are all talking about is this value of autonomy the idea that you live the kind of life that seems worth worthwhile for you now I should say you know just because you want to be a serial killer or something if that's those are your dreams and aspirations that doesn't mean you know sort of autonomously so serial killing is actually a worthwhile thing or something that the rest of us should respect right different kinds of values can conflict and of course some people would say that you know you can't autonomously do wrong but that's probably not as defensible as you might like so the basic idea then is that each of us is supposed to sort of as we become adults try to figure out what matters to us and try to live in accordance with what matters to us and so to be autonomous means to be you know in some sense idea of what it is to be a grown-up you know to be an adult right so that's the thing that's going to be at stake in big chunk of the class right in a lot of situations that's going to be the thing that we care about and that's going to be the answer to many of our questions