The Joe Rogan Experience. One of the things that I want to talk to you about is the JFK files. And one of the things that you said was that if they showed you what they showed me, this is your quote, you wouldn't want people to know it either.
So I opened them up partially. I was met with, from good people, I mean, you know, look, I mean, good people. People that were well-meaning.
Mike Pompeo was one of them. He's a good person. They called me, they said, sir, would rather, have you not? After, and I did open them. But I was asked by some people not to open them.
There's a Martin Luther King file too, by the way, that they'd like to see. I don't know if you know, but there is that. But JFK in particular.
So they called me, a lot of good people called me, people that I... you know, that you would find reasonable people. And they asked me not to do it. So I said, well, we'll close it for another time.
But if I win, I'm going to open them up. I'm just going to open enough. Why didn't you open it up the first time? Because a lot of times the hesitation addresses.
People that are still living. There are people that are affected. And there could be some national security reason that for, you know, that I don't have to necessarily know about.
But some very good, talented people asked me not to do it. I opened it up and then they said, would it be possible for us to do that a different day? How much of it did you read into? I think it's going to be just fine to open it.
Let me put it that way. I think it's fine. It's going to be time.
It's a cleansing. You know, it's really a cleansing. So I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it immediately, almost immediately upon entering office. Well, the thing, when people look at it from the outside and you... sort of imagine what could be a reason why they would not release those files.
It would be there's people that were implicated in the assassination. Well, when there are living people, you generally tend not to want to do it. when people are still living.
Living people that formerly worked for the government. For the government and living people that were somehow involved in it. And you tend not to do that. But it's time to open them. I can't tell you whether or not they're going to find anything of interest.
And I did partially open. I think I've opened 50%. But I was asked not to do it. And I thought that was a reasonable ask. But now I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it very soon. There's a lot of interest in it. One of the things that I'm...
A lot of interest in the people coming from space, you know? Yes. And I know you're interested in that.
Oh, I'm very interested in that. How much did they tell you about that? A lot.
Really? Yeah. What did they tell you?
How much can you tell? So Iā How does that work? Is it like super top secret? I think I can tell, you know.
Tell me. Well, based on Hunter Biden, I can say whatever the hell I want, right? But no. But I interviewed a few people.
It's never been my thing, I have to be honest. I have never been a believer. I have people that Area 51 or whatever it is.
I think it's the number one tourist attraction. in the whole country or something. Area 51 in Las Vegas. Do you know that, right?
Sure, I know what it is. So anyway, but it's a big tourist thing. So I interviewed jet pilots that say they saw something. If you saw them, you'd love to have them as you said.
I've had a couple in here. Commander David Fravor, I had him in, who had that sighting in 2004. Very, very compelling with visual, video evidence, radar evidence. Brian Graves. I don't believe his name, but I interviewed jet pilots that were solid people, perfect.
I mean, great pilots, great everything. And they said, we saw things, sir, that... We're very strange.
Like a round ball but it wasn't a comet or a meteor. It was something and it was going four times faster than an F-22 which is a very fast plane, you know, and it was round. Which is, in theory, a great shape.
So when you were talking to these people, was this something that you were compelled to have conversations about? Was this your personal interest? A little bit.
It's not a great interest for me, but it's a little interest. I get that question as much as almost any question. Do you think that we have aliens coming, you know, flying around or whatever?
What do you think? There's no reason not to I mean there's no reason not to think that Mars and all these planets don't have life You know that because well Mars we've had probes there and Rovers and I don't think there's any life there Well, maybe it's life that we don't know but well, maybe there was life there at one point in time This is a speculation about Mars that Mars had An atmosphere at one point in time a long time ago that could support life It also had large bodies of water, but we've had no evidence of even bacterial life that exists on Mars, but The universe is pretty vast. It's not been a big thing for me.
I mean, when I looked at what China did to this admit they would have never done it with me where they put the balloon up and a lot of people thought and a lot of people thought for a little while that that was right one of these things so that's a lot of the speculation too that some of these drones that hover over battleships that these are Chinese drones and that they're not UFOs they could be also there's some super sophisticated but I did interview let's say three or four guys that and without tremendous interest if you had them As I said, you'd love to have me as your children. Solid, beautiful people. They said, sir, there's something there. You know, they've said it.
Yeah, I've talked to quite a few of them. They're not conspiracy guys. Well, I mean, just the Commander David Fravor thing in 2004 off the coast of San Diego, they clocked that thing going from 50,000 feet above sea level to 50 in a second. They don't know what it is.
That's tough to beat. Yeah, they saw something in the water. It was hovering over that something that was making a disturbance in the water.
They got video evidence of this thing. Two different fighter jets with pilots in them saw it. There's visual evidence, photographic evidence, video evidence, radar evidence.
Whatever the hell it is, it moves in a way that would turn a human being into Jell-O if they were inside of it. The G-Force, no one would survive. So what is that?
And it doesn't have a heat signature. They don't know what their propulsion system was. But when you fly in some of these jets, these pilots have to be in great shape.
Oh, yeah. I flew with the Blue Angels once. Yeah.
Yeah, I got to fly. I guess it's an F-18. And those are older machines. And they're crazy.
When you fly in some of these things, it's amazing. Yeah, I can imagine. You got to be special.