you were thinking about it very differently right um and my view is Americans by Nature are so lonely and so much of the time is spent being alone so for instance now the difference between Rogan's conversation as opposed to anybody else's is when it's free-flowing he will have you on he'll read your book he'll see what your bio is and he'll sit and talk content he's talking about he'll go on a long rant he'll say something he'll repeat those points Ayahuasca was a big thing have you tried Ayahuasca that became a meme people need values as soon as the value is there people will align themselves around it so that is how Rogan became a cult because he had so many hours to speak in the middle of his guests answering questions but in contrast I think Andrew Tate has a bigger cult and I think the minute Andrew Tate is free he will be on Joe Rogan what do you think maybe maybe he will do crazy stuff right there was a in fact I was it was a real jewelry about the other where they say that particular streaming platforms streaming platform and the Dows and mouse of that platform will be through the roof the entire world would want to go and see his live stream have you been seeing his Tweets in from jail I think he's allowed to write a newsletter so he's been writing a newsletter accumulating following there was newsletter segments end up on Twitter because that's the only social media he's allowed on mainstream and bro each of those tweets is retweetable like I'm not I've done enough content around Android to put my problems about him across I've had my but um he understands Bros for a charity that helps men who were accused without a reason yeah just solid PR movie Bros what do you think about him I I don't know man like I feel his few views are just they disgust me my love it's just like so you know people say there's a good side of him there's a bad side of him like from the content point of view excited is I got on the wrong foot um so that is the kind of vibe I got and then I anyway kind of dislike people who are in every line who bring their wealth so you may go anywhere it's just a personality trade Keys you know I have like um I'm a chick magnet I'm this I'm that so starting see because I saw that content first reviews which I liked and which I agreed on key the clip is I'll tell you two ways to make money first is get addicted to social media and second is produce content on social media not consume okay to me that was like really good thing I also say the same thing that become producer of the thing which you consume the most and there's like basic stuff to worldwide New Generation this is how you make money so that's the only thing which I liked about him that's one real us so I feel just discuss more than anything else it's not I mean he deserves what he's getting like that kind of stuff right it's a it's a little too polarizing it is yeah more than polarizing I think I'm not well suited enough like I'm not well suited or B I'm in a position where I can give my opinion on him um these kind of people are not really good influences good influencers that's what I would say I will say though as I've grown up room um I'm 27 next week right and it is 27 is about the age where you start thinking about 30 very loudly right before that you're like whatever I'm purchase you know you're probably not you you're a more sincere fellow than I am right um and I found as I've grown up that truly the most under discussed topic around me is the pain of men right and what is that pain I think that is The Sweet Spot Andrew Tate manages to hit with this content which is why he's probably this successful this is a this is an explanation not a justification with the nonsense he says just by the way my views on him are very clear I think the 20 nonsense that he says negates the 80 good stuff that he can probably bring yeah right but heck yeah bro the amount of Silent painful effort you have to put in as a man every day to keep your family together the defense you have to bring in in times that are tough when is upside down and you have to stand there tall without crying that is a pain nobody really talks about openly and I think the the injustices when you start comparing it to female pain because that's a completely different category as valid as male pain but modernity technology the demands of our time in terms of discourse and ideas has rendered this topic completely useless so do you not get questions of this nature because on my in my DMs I get a lot of these questions where guys are trying to figure this stuff out you are figuring out go I'm not but like what are the kind of questions you get in your DMs dude I tell you on I have certain views about how men and women are and everything around that right I'll tell you one thing which I really really feel I think it's not about I don't know whether it's right or wrong or what's who's doing it and who's not the idea is I'm just against the idea that men and women are same and that's what I just don't like like everybody's trying to say you know women go through their own pains when go through their own pain that's the whole idea like we're just completely do different individuals and the way we've been brought up is so different as well I'll tell you where I'm coming from or why and how did I come down to this so my biggest I've always seen my mom and she was like the strong personality in my house and she was like super empathetic so every day for me it was just how do I win her because she was always like this giving you know she's this person you can look at obviously this is every mom but the personality trade with Anna so my mom is like giving she she never wants anything from anyone even from different people I forget their kids so that put me on like a life Quest where I try to understand women more than I try to understand myself a man right and that's why when I try to understand them and one thing which I which I found out on this give us I think I got in a better understanding of men as my brother and my sisters and everything because my age in my house my sisters are kind of my age my brother is quite younger to me and my sisters are not allowed to do the same thing which I was allowed to do okay now they all are but the way we were you know growing up and I you know my grandfather and my grandmother the way they were Society is traditional Allah so to me that was like why what um and something which I found out which was which became the premise for me to understand men and women men are always objective driven women are always feelings driven and to me that was so fascinating to just talk about everything they'll always be a debate about men feeling women empowerment stories because if you look at the way we've been brought up and say I'm talking about my Society I'm not generalizing everything I'm just talking about the place I come from objectives you're so objective driven that you're always seeking your and you're you're attaching your happiness to another objective so day in and day out you always become a problem solver who's trying to solve a problem to achieve an objective whereas women right this is now the question the conversation which goes on with them so far from day one they've been taught to feel from day one manner taught to earn the bread is basic conversation mom and daughter they talk about their feelings and the struggles while growing up father and son they talk about how the sun's gonna be as eligible as father or maybe better right right and these are the basic conversation which happens in Every Family most of the families specifically the place where I come from right get your together I don't know whatever the word is like I'm I'm objective achiever that is goals objectives Life Is Life we are emotional creatures damn boy I'll tell you what I think about this because feeling feeling feelings the moment now because they also have a career they want to do things the moment they want to do it and they're like they don't know the moment somebody talks about it in society that person becomes like the role model for them that's why we both have opposite Role Models so you think about the I think this will help people whoever is watching to make this point clearer to themselves because I agree men and women are not the same they might be equal they should be equal I'm completely in agreement but same and equal are not the same they're different words right and you need to understand this vocabulary this is why being able to speak well and understand things in language well is important categorization properly you don't get lost in other people's agenda number one number two I think it's not men versus or men and women it's masculine versus feminine masculine and feminine true true right so and we inhabit both qualities like um I know men who are very feminine in nature right who have their feelings and their Aesthetics and all of those things very put together I am not one of those people find me somebody like and this is and this is so common where men are never taught how to deal with their feminine properly yeah because as they go about their masculine Enterprise the feminine will go together the struggle and the pain will come and you do not know how to handle it like so often bro I'll have my pains and I do not know how to talk to my friends about it at this point point I texted my friends while I was flying into Bombay um flight so that they was like look we need to have a meeting all of us need to sit down we've been friends 10 years and we need to make intent appear in our friendship going forward if we all want to win yeah and part of that agreement will involve some amount of feminine input where it's like true right because that will happen as we grow and for women very often I see this with my mum right my mom my dad was a brilliant support I think I have so much respect for my father for um being there for my mom in that way where my mom has more let's say formal power than my father does right my mom became a role model for every single woman in the family so quickly I didn't even realize but all these all cousins all buuas everybody start coming to my mom cue because masculine properly she went about her career and now when Society pushes women rightly so because you better be financially independent or you're going to go through they don't know what to follow yeah representation representation if I knew a single content creator in America who'd made it my journey as a content creator in America would be so much easier yeah because representation matters right and so this is why probably the role models are opposite where for women Role Models tend to be more masculine women and for Men role models tend to be men who can express their femininity and deal with it properly right and I think it is such an interesting time for this debate to be had properly I think say what you want about Andrew Tate he did open the door for this conversation very loudly the books we read that's what I'm saying that maybe he opened up that side and now that you're saying that I'm I'm pretty intrigued to know that I'll tell you why because I all I saw was I never saw him talking about pain of men the way you are expressing right now he's he sounds like Okay um he's complicating as a creature right I will say what I'm saying is key I have read all of this all of this has come across my literature reading since I was 20. May the books I've been reading the people I've been meeting the circles I've been in the conversations I've had this has been a topic but nobody spoke about it openly with him saying all of this so loudly opening the door in even if an ugly wave what this has done is people are now like huh this is actually true I heard an opinion about Tate which was so interesting somebody said the content he makes is essentially for women to consume to understand their men properly but he packages it in such a way that women will be like disgusting and so it never reaches the Right audience true and that was such a brilliant Insight I was like that's so interesting bro package because packaging with a gay man packaging beginner packaging I'm attracting the Right audience something which I was gonna write content on this but TK you know because men are always told that their worth is going to be calculated based on how good they achieve okay and women always thought how good they feel so have good feeling that's why her cheese is they're always trying to be they are better feelers and that's why men they're not better feelers as men we're finding people who are who can feel better and as women we're trying to find role models who are better Achievers full-time numbers Society is teaching us a classic Bollywood that's what we've been taught since the beginning since the beginning we've been taught about all of these things only so as as men we want to find we we should like we find people who feel themselves in a better way attractive and as women we find people who are like better achievements do you cry yeah how like do you how okay are you with crying in general I'm pretty okay that's never been a problem that used to be a problem when I was a kid but I think my my dad my mom everyone's like a good feeler in my in my house my Society so everybody is like pretty they express their emotions freely so it's no good problem yeah but because you know how the fundamental need as a young boy as a teenager is power hmm right that's I don't know even I should call it fundamental no no it's just like innate needs um then power comes from either fame money or character so my idea okay men are men in fact there was a time when Harvey Specter I used to watch him a lot suits okay I'm not against emotions I'm against having them not against using them okay so masculine okay dude that became my thing I was like of course bro I don't have emotions I was like yeah I don't have emotions because Harvey Specter in in my head was the was the the most successful masculine image like a role model who you ever want to become in your career right forget crying I was not I was forcing myself to not show my soft side to other people as well bro even happiness like I've seen men who get so hard and they don't want to show happiness that's what I'm saying I was not showing any emotion because I'm against having them though even I'm against having them but do you not think that's a colorless life at that point then did you struggle against that is right and then later I realized okay I mean the idea is what I want from this okay why do I want to be motionless or why don't I want people to perceive me in a way right or favorite question do I want perceived value to be different than who I really am I didn't want that hmm I was like okay if I want other person to perceive me in certain way I want them I want them to understand me in certain way let them understand me for me and they can only understand me better when I show my emotions they cannot understand me better by not showing emotions and that's where the thing started because I wanted to be I wanted my girlfriend to understand me better my father to understand me better my mother to understand me better my brother to answer so it became a thing that I was trying to you know just getting back to normal and then I feel that's how then I got okay with like you know I was not okay for the longest I was not okay with anger hmm not showing anger I'm not showing I was like this um what's the problem in showing anger or love or happiness or sadness or crying I read a quote right now about anger I was so brilliant because bro I've never believed this I I think midi instinctual thinking is pretty on point with stuff like this but anyway um people you know how they say anger is bad for you it is like holding a knife and hurting yourself and this and that and all that nonsense and I'm like how can it be when it's so natural for people to have anger and the court said anger is let me see he said anger is a privilege for the strong Duty for the righteous and self-harm for the week and I was like that's brilliant to understand that if you are strong you must only use anger as a privilege only when it is important and if you're righteous you must use it as a duty because it must be exercised for righteousness to arrive at manifestation point and for the week it is self-harm most people tend to be weak people most people tend to hurt themselves with anger but the strong know when to use it properly and that is the element of Grace and it's probably a sort of a callback to Andrew Tate you know whatever I want to conclude that okay please please so just just saying conclusion I used to believe that I'm not I'm against having emotions right now I'm like I'm against losing control over emotions I want to be in control of my emotions that is now my new thing because the same thing which you've had because I feel having control over your emotions is is I think everything it is something which makes you an achiever and that's the point an achiever by I mean achiever not only just a monetary way in relationships and personal attitude friendship everything so if you know how to control your emotions yeah that's it yeah I think to go back to the brutish Warrior personality there is also this book called king warrior something something somebody wants to Google it which talks about four different categories of masculine personalities and it's funny all of this is like I read at 21 it's now coming back because it's relevant but um you don't want to be a brute bro you don't want to be Savage you want to be a king you want to be Noble and Noble people have their in control not just in order but also in control you're not just strong you're strong with a purpose and intent exactly and self-control and Grace spot on yeah spot on I'll tell you one inside you read all of these things into anyone okay there was a so there was a study which I was reading why one of the best readers in the world are not powerful instantly because they're ahead of their times bro that's so encouraging thank you so much for saying that and that's why and that's why in hindsight everything connects for them and they give that recognition or maybe you know how do I oh that appreciation to compounding not to their own habit for other people it's hard for you it's easy and then you do it subconsciously again again because it's easy thing for you automatically it makes you stand out in fact bro because ahead of the time the whole game is people who are popular are the ones who are average has come up with this theories I've discussed him in my book and so on and so forth why not why not everybody be the leader why not everybody be the alpha male why not everybody lead their groups and he said listen if you look at the data of people and who is the leader of that group so say if you look at everybody's data you see that preferences in things you will find the leader is the most average preference amongst all that groups and so not everybody wants to be average and that is why not everybody wants to be that person but hmm [Music] he said look as you grow older you will spend most amount of time with your partner that's where things are going right your parents your face time is going to go down with your friends your face time is going to go down and I started figuring this out I was like look I'm going to spend the most amount of time with one person I eventually choose and be like I need to figure this out properly and process documents I created a blueprint for myself I was like this is what I'll follow in conversation in negotiation and arguments and I left it and I usually there were friends who have circulated this with all of them have great relationships at this point you've met half of those relationships yeah right um I was even telling you about Kevin Durant for those who do not know us telling him about this girlfriend was asked out by Kevin Durant once and she said no so like see that blueprint Works anyway or um now I find so many people suffer as I've gotten older seeing friends get married seeing friends who are married for three years having problems in their relationships big businesses I think that is such a solid component of figuring out in a way where if you get ahead of the curve on that my God your 30s and 40s are going to be so fruitful how's your relationship with your girlfriend brilliant pivot I'll tell you one thing you know blueprint that's like no matter what territory like no matter what blueprint you choose to choose the right partner or like to build a relationship with like it's it's gonna go down down to train whether what really happens so yeah humans don't feel good when anything predictable happens okay okay you are always just excited about the things which are Super unpredictable okay okay always for everything give me an example okay I'll give you an example let's say spot okay um and then you start avoiding because everything is predictable you know same thing goes with let's say uh any spot any Adventure Sport every time when you know that the predictable ending or there's some level of thing which you can predict you don't like the game anymore that's why you feel this key I want to do something more I want to do something else that's why the predictability kills purpose they keep finding themselves like they keep finding some or the other thing for themselves which helps them keep uh in the motion in the flow challenge do you know the flow concept right but there has to be some level of constant newness so if you have built a blueprint and you know that you you're gonna stick to that another same same Jesus sixth time you'll be like done here is what I'll say about this first um I think I'll tell you excitement challenge you will be compromising you'll be adjusting so my idea of perfect relationship is that if you are ready to constantly work on the relationship then you should fall in the post like find yourself a person right now because then things get super exciting forever so you don't you're not fitting on blueprint you're not fitting on values you're not fitting on 10 other things you just decide that okay XYZ reason whatever the reason is I've decided that I'm gonna put everything to make it work with this person and if that person also aligns in the same way then you guys will have a brilliant relationship usually yes that just goes wrong um it's not gonna be fun the differences between static and predictable I think people like prediction which is perfectly predictable parameters you won't like it I'll tell you two things about that one on some level you want Adventure as a part of your fifty percentage you cannot get static about it so that was like but secondly bro I think also what people don't understand and this is partly 90s Bollywood um Bollywood is Indians love drama in their relationships they look they look for unpredictability that surfing the waves in their relationships what do you think about that but that's what I'm saying give us stability Athena that's family it will I feel in some way like partially there should be some stability where you know that this is the person you can fall back like if this is the person you can go back to right like you you won't like it at all you won't enjoy coming home on the bad days you'll enjoy coming home on the good days you want right right exactly like you know that then then it gets bad right so that's what I was saying that it should not be 100 predictable or like stable or essentiology there should be fun for constantly and constant fun Matlab work so I feel love I would say I would I would make it this way long lasting love is equals to constant work because you're constantly working on yourself your partner your communication your relationship your growth your goals your career your house everything hmm you Constitution Generations but then they have to rework again so then if you are you ready to rework on that so you would you asking a question like how is going with my girl I tell you we love working on our relationship I think it's been so many years and we just feel I think it's this is the best thing I've I I really believe key we've Fallen the fall in love with the process of just making things better with each other it's just so much fun so what is it like Saturday nights we'll have phone calls and work on our relationships like how do you do that no no no it's just like when for example you know I think we we both know our weaknesses sometimes so I have this habit of uh distancing myself when uh when she needs me for example how would it say this let's say when she just needs me to talk without an objective I haven't I have a tendency to ignore our tendency to distance myself because I'm always like objective so I can never I'll tell you one crazy inside okay but this is generally you know like 90 of the people are gonna agree to this with me at least if you are someone who is obsessively like if you are obsessed with making your career work okay you cannot go to a restaurant with someone else without an objective um you know so when things like this happen when she wants me to like I want to talk I want to talk talk about what hmm stock out there so every time that happens if I if I can get a sense that yeah I try to distance myself and that's my weakness and I want to change that I think what she wants is for you to be a sounding Buddhist appointment yeah like listen at this and more than sounding mode is just like sometimes because I tell you for her it's super normal because she would go out with her girls and just do nothing yeah right but I don't go out with my boys and do nothing I only meet my boys when there's podcasts that we made you're my man right I like you I like your company we always we meet there's like right that's fun but I cannot meet you like so forever what is normal to me that is not normal and I think that's what I'm working on right now can I be with her at the time right when for the things that which is normal for her right so right so now I become self-aware for this so now I try to give up if I'm trying to distance myself next time I make sure that no no no no I have to be there just like maybe maybe at that point she's not telling me I don't know my point of that women want to feel comfortable before they start sharing their problems 100 they feel warmed up men don't need that um I would call her and be like a problem and she would instantly solve that I needed it done right when she calls me she want she wants me to just wait there till the time she's comfortable look me five minutes so I think that's the biggest problem because weakness in me because what I realized she's always there for me right and I'm not [Music] um for like for the longest time but now I'm changing that obviously I'm becoming better so that's what I told you in the beginning of understanding of men and women the way you try to understand yourself I try to understand the other gender because I've been surrounded by strong women around me and I always want to just make sure that they are feeling best of themselves like am I able to do something which adds up to their current state and makes them feel better that's what I try to do whether it's my sisters whether it's my mom whether it's my girlfriend whether it's my other friends or you know this comes from place because while growing up all of these people they've helped me achieve my objectives my love my mom always helped me with so many things by helping me choose career and never pressurizing me or forcing me to do anything like there was a point recently she went to like a better school her English was spot on like them speeches right so she helped me my girlfriend my content block oh yeah because she understands me better than anyone else right now because my face time with her is so much more much more right so Mera content hindsight I feel I'm so selfish so now I want okay what do they want can a strong man bro that's what you become they want strong men that's what I'm becoming right but at the same time they also want time yeah you know yesterday I saw a clip love spelling his name and you know I tell you it's biased times [Laughter] bro I understand yes but I got a lot of practice because my dad was the work work kind you know my dad was going hard bro I didn't even see him for years when he was working right and so whatever things my mom had very early on I began to take the soundboarding of that like she would come to me rant very quickly I realized she doesn't want the salt she can solve this um right and you hear the whole thing out you ask them right questions what do you mean by this and suddenly right that's a very different thing but yesterday I had a very unique privilege I enjoyed this once in a while and this privilege comes from a place where a friend of mine once told me be a shape shifter to like get into rooms properly you probably understand this better than most people in the world you have to change shapes you have to be different people to get into different rooms right oh 100 right 100 yesterday I was hanging out with my girlfriend who's visiting India for the first time and a friend of mine don't know females and they are friends too this is a conversation about how expression operates with a third person yeah and it is so it went I want to learn so much about that because as we grow bro men we forget how to talk nonsense after a certain while it's all about yes right so there is Merit to that part of life too yep yep yep right that's that's for sure and I tell you okay it's not that men don't do that um the one who is one is powerful right so we always talk about that politics have you heard maximum log IC um now let's talk about improving themselves seeing other people improve themselves having better expression of emotion what's going on in someone else's life how is that person getting treated and how you are getting treated how you don't want to be treated how you want to get treated they're always just about self-care um [Music] if you look at like the way men form groups versus women form group different games Dynamics from an intention which is [Music] I see what you mean I I would the way I spell that is key when I'm hanging out with my friends we better be playing a game I know exactly but but that's that's what that's what I meant by men and women are not same and that's where men need to spend more time with women to understand I tell you honestly like sometime when I go out on dates and when I go with her friends I enjoy talking random with them you learn that I love and learn I just enjoy I never knew that that's a side of me sometimes it's good to not have any objective and just be you and just talk can you do nothing and still be with that person okay and that was the spot on so now I I like doing nothing with her so I never knew this is side of me I'm so goal driven I'm so Vision driven manifestations everywhere is visual that I'm hardcore goal driven person I used to write things what the things which I'm achieving right now I used to write them when I was in 11th 12th class sitting in a back bench when I didn't even know how to communicate properly um foreign Cuisines of different countries what do you enjoy like Italian I really like Mexican I really like now Asian makeup I've become fan of Asian so she taught me that because she forced me to get out of my comfort zone and you know make me enjoy certain things now I love it now I think I've become a more foodie than a better foodie or a bigger foodie than her I know what you mean exactly bro Indian deserts I was very conscious of that from the beginning but because of my Mexican girlfriend I am discovering Indian desserts like never before yeah we were eating something and I was trying to explain what panels so so interesting so there is there is a certain way in which um because I was raised around most of my family sisters bro there's only so many brothers and all of them are like about their job I haven't seen my brother in weeks since I've been here and years when I'm not here I don't see my father my uncle's the same but I will see my sisters I will see all my sisters and they'll be more often around me and I grew up with them and that was a very interesting way to grow up because I think a lot of my feminine side was developed because of that like I was just more in sync with so how people fall down bro so far I tell you most of my cousins are like I have sisters More Than Brothers okay now mostly all my Buddhas they come home so my bua's will sit talk their kids like all of us like our kids we'll sit talk random lettering our parents like our dads okay we'll be playing chess um [Music] I never got an opportunity to spend time with them to understand the psychics then back men back to playing chess even back to doing what they do women do women going back to enjoying with all of us we all are laughing giggling having fun I learned to express and enjoy because this is the way I brought up and it's such a tuna experience so my community these are called comes from that because my middle child in a certain way right I remember my dad told me the story bro very early on no he didn't tell me a story he told he gave me a value foreign and this is the story of him resisting it until he gives it to her foreign and I think that in the midst of my very feminine upbringing created the man in me like and this is my question to you because you are a very I go around your house okay I didn't stop at you showing me this is room and this is what I stopped at everything you'd written at different places why does it say this why is this information organized this way because that is a very achievement objective oriented organization of the only person by the well citizen camera I think manifestation is full of for the most part but you are the only person who makes me feel like people manifest bro no problem like that happens because your entire space is organized in a way where your objectives are visual in front of you you are a very go-getter kind of a human every time we've met from the day when you were starting your content and you were at 5 000 subscribers on Instagram till now where you're doing all these great things we cannot even talk about on camera you're a very go-getter kind of person where did that come from and two sorry it's a formal question and two how do you pass this on to people who listen to you what is it that you pass on to these people so tell me about that historically where that's coming from and yeah that now that that comes from the second side that's that comes from my dad I grew up seeing him struggle okay so I tell you my dad my grandfather they come from nothing in fact there was a time when my dad dad was a coconut vendor right so I've always I didn't see that fortunately I was born at a good house could place everything was there but I've always seen him just talking about these things only it's always key s stability stability so because my dad always focus on just stability I was like crazy so I always had this in my mind right so I and in my family okay my dad is one of the most respected people because of the things he has done I mean he comes from nothing and now he's built like a multi-million dollar business right so and when you are when you're not educated when you don't know how to communicate well you don't know English English like you don't know the basic if you want to English you want to rate his skills from one to ten I would read him two or one like he would barely read and understand stuff and from there on to not doing business with people who are like massive so he's always so everyone else in my family gets overshadowed by his achievements okay I know exactly what you mean right so everybody else no matter what they do in their own domains they all get okay plus apart from that then my dad is a big Giver he runs one of the largest ngos in state in India in fact right so always donated Society Community keep giving he would always be there to organize blood camps and organ transplants and then eye donation and then notebooks to underprivileged kids it's always about giving so it's like a great Giver socially he has great values then and I never got attention for anything anything at all okay so in my school because I'm not good at sports I was not good at any major things um so it was subconsciously it became my competition with my dad hmm Oedipus this is Freudian as guys ladies and gentlemen it's real huh so I was like I want to be okay and he always wanted me to be bigger than him like he never saw me as well in fact he was supporting he's always there he's like every moment his communication also was always like everything which I have is yours and you're gonna be better than me I know it I know it is conviction in my head I just want to beat him for some reason for the longest time so I wanted to beat my okay then yeah so my attitude became because everyone around me was such achiever on some level maybe them or their families that I wanted I was always overshadowed and I would I didn't want to be that kid so for the longest time there's a miracle bus I love my family business okay what I was doing I was killing it where my father was making sure to give me all credits here I was doing good um [Music] like he always made that so he always showed that you are better than me you're bigger than me you're dead still I left that and I was like I want to do something on my own because I ache Insight okay one day one inside there was one thing where we both disagreed on something okay there was something about my relationship something about my personal life something about my my future plans we disagreed on that and he showed some kind of power over me because obviously he's dead yeah yeah you do and was not Financial in nature I was like Let It Be I know want to have my own story I want to be alone I want to do my own thing I was so wrong at that time I was so wrong but I don't regret it at all I'm so happy that I did it because I found myself I wouldn't I wouldn't be I wouldn't have you'd be playing the same game bro I wouldn't have respected myself or my dad this the way I do today so I left it so cool I came to Bombay I started my journey from scratch I didn't I knew at every point that I can take money from and have a comfortable life and in fact be 10x bigger than who I am today because obviously money fuels your growth I would have beaten like I tell you honestly the backing which I had access to I would have beaten every content creator in our domain you know of just by paid forget organic like just buy running ads right and still that wouldn't be a dent on my pocket I know what you mean right but I didn't take even a penny and I was sleeping on the floor because I was waiting for my next collaboration to happen which will allow me to buy a bed right I didn't know that because Mera self ego or herself I didn't take anyone's help I didn't take any money from anyone I started doing everything and of course in two years touchwood we did really good I think we reinvented ourselves and now I make good money no I agree I make good stuff looking around I can say there is decent money here um so that that was like I think my attitude was always like I don't want to be overshadowed yeah and because hamesha foreign I feel in my journey of whatever reason could be managers anyone else so this is so right now that's why I'm going even bigger even bigger like um foreign foreign should feel power of Dreams the same way I do that's lovely bro I think you were too you and I felt this at least the couple of times but I think you're you're way older for your years um 25 I'm 26 26. so we are the same it's the same age and if I get that compliment you should you definitely earn that compliment that you're way more mature and older than what your age might suggest to a random right like that's this is absolutely brilliant to be able to come to that progression for me it was somewhat instinctive at least in words because I read so much I spoke so much I was interacting with royalty intellectual royalty right and that's where I earned all of this um then I had whatever anecdotes I had from my own Adventures but brilliant first of all secondly I the thing about being overshadowed is very real and I appreciate you saying that because I always passed it off as a joke until a woman pointed this out so I had a short or long chess career purely for a single reason I was three my mother got me and my dad a chess board I played my dad and I lost and I was like this you don't get to beat me and walk away and that started a proper Blitz for another 11 years in which I won national events I was internationally rated all of that came from that one moment where my dad beat me the second push in my go-getter life came from the fact that I understood how easy it is for power to dominate you which came in the form a friendly form but a form regardless of my father all my friends were going to watch the movie Robo to teach it to you I go to my dad I'm like foreign foreign I started thinking very dedicatedly about what I want to tell my audience right like for you it might be how you build this up and I only know so much about building right I know a lot about how to keep yourself together in here and what I think is it's a four-part formula bro ache you have to be Fearless as hell because when you see opportunity or when you see need you have to be there the second and this I know you will agree you have to be articulate as oh for sure because bro the the pen is mightier than the sword yeah pull out your tongue pull out your pen and make this work manifest it with words properly in the room the third is you have to be competent Beyond anybody else in the room you have to be the hardest worker this is Dwayne The Rock Johnson right my dad because you know same situations from that he's gotten to the man that he's become now and that is competence that is brute hard work pushing against the impossible and the last is educated the most educated person that you can be an educated it's not formally whatever degrees bro wherever the hell if you're curious about something and you're not chasing it down if you know you can do something about something and you're not doing it you are inviting stress you're inviting self-doubt you're inviting all the things that will poison your soul in the long run and if you can tackle these four problems honestly every effort that you make if they are attested by these four pillars you are going the right direction true and this is this is a compass I sort of came up with in this process I've never discussed this I think in content because I've been building it properly but if you get these four values down you're done nobody can stop you and I think you're a good representation of that because off camera conversations I know just how Fearless you are yeah I've not forgotten that conversation bro it's commendable it's commendable do you have a younger sibling yeah yeah brother what do you tell your brother bro about life foreign your story you know I like I like my brother I tell you one great thing about him he's hungrier than me no bro yes 30. so I tell you I know for a lot of people it would it might mean nothing okay for me it was everything because myself get better today outwork luck is not gonna help you like you know speeches foreign foreign foreign foreign [Music] hi um right he just pushes me so much it's it's crazy it's just bro who's your best friend I have so many friends like best friends like is there a one is to one male partner you have where it's like yeah but your friends I think one of the biggest this I tell you it's a mistake and it's an advantage in life as well I kept changing my that best friend As I Grew with my career okay why is that an advantage so I tell you that's a loss because you don't have a homie who has seen like everything you know and how you see uski series no I've heard enough about it Superstar athletes because you don't get to share like the downsides and emotions with people that's why it's a sad part its Advantage because you play with people who don't need who doesn't need training you are not playing with amateurs you're not playing playing with amateurs you're not you're not playing with people who don't know this when it's your boy when it's your man or with your girl or when like somebody who's I'm specifically talking about business goals okay specifically they need to work think breathe eat consume produce the same way you are doing in order to level up the same way you are leveling otherwise they'll be left behind they'll be left behind okay now if primarily to myself but as you keep growing change so for example I'll give you an example when when it was my fmcg business I became best friends with someone who's already built a 300 400 crore business right and he was still under 30 and in fmcg in a state ments or different products different products when I became content creator I reached out to some other person these guys are like already then I went to my startup game funding startup building tech product would have been incapable or my friend from the fmcg company would have been incapable at a Poo's job right the way he builds execution capabilities is crazy right to start a banana my funding the angel investors were helping me out with everything I've become best friends with him it's an advantage if you play in different rooms with people who are already above you but disadvantage that is the person who's already leveled up you won't have a brother to cry with I I also think bro this is a sort of a geographical difference between being tier two which is where faridabad practically tier 2 and tier one where maybe maybe it's a Delhi Bombay difference I don't know because for me a lot of the transformation happened when I took the adventure and I went abroad and I suddenly realized bro you might be the smartest person in every room you walk in in faridabad or even in Delhi for that matter but this is Columbia University um and that pushed me to level up very much right and I saw this with my with a very close almost like a best friend trigger don't know both of us live in America on opposite coasts um he went to Georgia Tech which is a tech school and he came out completely different he came out very entrepreneurial Colombia I mean there is no entrepreneurship I am learning entrepreneurship by talking to people like yourself and the others I made through this podcasting Network and such foreign [Laughter] graduation is qualification you must be a multi-billionaire and The Hazing is something like buy a first class ticket to Europe right now or buy a Rolex right now that is the qualification for admission then this friend of mine one day calls me and he's super sad bro he's like bro I think he's like bro I think I should have joined same days and I was like bro wait is it real this is real University and I was like bro just how rich are you he was like sorry bro I can't tell you so I asked my other Pakistani friends it's probably the top five richest families in all of Pakistan so think about feudal and treatment top five richest and that is the crowd that you're surrounded with and if you meet him you cannot tell that because he's so articulate and hardworking and all of those things the values are fine you'll find also but the values are fine but most of the people who have met who are who are rich as hell are grounded in Humble and hardworking generally tends to be the case mid-level usually because they're trying to be them like it's not like so now he's not because he's also not trying to win by money people who know they can win by show off of or money or like you know by just how do I tell you uh by luxury um the first time I met a billionaire um in New York he was obviously Hangouts the difference between business class and first class is that business class people walk through it going to economy first class nobody sees the seats are the same the services are roughly the same the point of buying a first class ticket is privacy and when you're that rich what you care about is privacy not about show of amplifications an obstacle the true goal and I don't tell me what you think about it is to not be famous like Fame is a good leverage to have in the process of building your businesses but eventually you want kind of people to not be looking at you because like I think about all these Bollywood celebs going through the nonsense that they go through even though they do not probably want to be involved they want to make their art problem right like but people are so invested in Fame you know um what do you think about Fame I don't know I kind of disagree I mean the whole point is so I'll tell you it points when you are in different rooms currency changes right every room you go to currency and it's such an attractive currency also people love you for it regardless exactly the whole point is which room you are in right in that room is Fame being given importance if in that room is money being like is money important in that room is idea important in that room is hard work or giving or you know I tell you there are rooms in Bangalore okay where you're not being you're not an important person if you have a lot of money you're an important person if you give a lot of money so charity is an important currency there right so you show that my dick is bigger by donating more the whole point is foreign so to me the kind of rooms I am in I feel Fame is an important currency and I think it has so many advantages than disadvantages I feel you really that's a good character yep so that's the whole point like because I feel that if you have the position where people are watching you're looking at you you have so much so much room to create an impact in every goddamn way that's a privilege and that's the privilege I want like it's and maybe I'm saying this because I'm in the rooms where everybody is giving importance to everybody values Fame hmm maybe that their shift this probably I'll get to the previous year some billionaire is watching this or and be like yeah I'm saying I'm not become that so I don't know that yet tell me about your book bro because uh and this is probably the last question I have for you I um remember when I was finishing up and releasing my book you were in New York and I asked you and you were like book I haven't I've not thought about a book and then a few months later your book was out whatever whatever how did that happen I told you at that time also huh book for me is not a money making opportunity we spoke about money there right right right royalties and money is like I said book yeah I told you book is an Authority building tool yes right I thought a building tool that's what that's what I see right and one of the one of the other things in my bucket list was become a bestseller right before I die I wanted to become a bestseller foreign [Music] Authority on I want to so I I see myself as an educator hmm okay I educate people how to achieve their dreams that's it that's what my in my head my ideal positioning is sexual very fast guys I love this song so like my ideal thing is that bro I am an educator for dreams right I teach people how to achieve dreams bye and I'm doing that by achieving my own drink foreign imagination emotion and optimism is so goddamn important and look they go imagination um so emotions is very important understand your own emotion and people's emotions right that's awesome optimism optimism is the only drug that keeps you alive it's the only nourishment even when times are not tough optimism is the only thing subconscious if you are sleeping tonight peacefully in a hopeless that's optimism solid right optimism everything in the world is white it's ready for opportunities ready for me I just need to deserve it I'm Universe child like that is the belief I have my point is maybe I'm absolutely wrong I'm not the universe right foreign with people who feel like motivation is not important optimism is right do you have any questions for me no bro the problem any about the stuff that you're doing and stuff like that we'll discuss off camera I'd rather like to keep for some reason bro um foreign foreign degree if you have too much research it will happen but the opposite side is if you do not know anything what you look very blank and we know podcasters that look very blank right so Raj as a person I know and I know him on a level that is not say public but interactions are right I've understood Raj the good part about talking to you is that you know how to talk which is very often the problem when you're podcasting in India it's not an industry so people don't know how to communicate themselves and you're having very dead conversations you're trying to pull stuff out you're trying to ask questions that open them up they're tighter they're worried about the camera they're conscious with you none of that is the case um so what I do for instance if I'm coming to you is I know I have to just pull the first thread and maybe force you through it like Android 8 might be a difficult conversation so when I start and I see Raj is a little like whatever I'll say okay and root it I'll stick through it until you get comfortable then Raj will take this or I just have to ask questions maybe if I have something burning to say I'll add where Raj will do what he has to do so with you and with most people I come with very little agenda the best I'll think of when I'm driving is where do I open the conversation but while I was driving here I was talking to my business guys so I didn't even think of that um uh with you it is very effortless I don't have to try too much but say if you are a more difficult guy I do the same I'd open with something deeply uncomfortable I'd wait for you to get warmed up and then I'd start throwing in easier things for you to continue talking and the objective is to make the other person like themselves this is the secret behind great conversation if you leave the room thinking bro matter you will love me bro you will never hate me that it's a power dynamics yep you have and people think I have to make them like me or I have to end up liking them both those things are so selfish make them love themselves for sure so that's a question which I usually seek in a podcast if I've made my guest think about something which is not thought of I've done a great job if I made them articulate something they knew but did not know to put in words they've won they have won better articulation yes but I also feel Guinness right that that is what my thing is something which I never thought of but so that is my indicator key I want to do that in the podcast and India podcast people don't wait for let's say you are the host in our conversation we were equally talking so there was time when I was listening you were talking I was listening like you know I was talking about listening they're proper result foreign foreign The Voice go as an interview treats so this is our American ripoff right podcasting started out in the west and then it's moving here podcasting podcasts us because we're in the industry we hear back people will say this before conversations I feel like it's too manicured and I'm no longer going to have fun and this is not a means to an end for me this is some part life still when I'm talking to Raj and if I'm thinking then I'm not having a conversation I'm not have you seen my eye contact sometimes I am surprised by my eye contact because I'm looking dead into your left eye I'm like and um sometimes you can use that eye contact to intimidate and make the person stop sometimes to allow them to speak more and these are things I've learned podcasting bro I my trade-off is is the audience going to love if I talk about X or am I going to learn 20 new things from this person if I sit down and listen to it so um podcast with relationship building exercise I agree but I will say this however I think the podcasts that don't come out of Bombay are so much more like podcasts than the ones that come out of Bombay but like for instance uh Joe Deli based like I think vinegar does a fantastic job at I love conversation yeah I love I love him I I keep saying this all well crazy somebody's like hey you are are you not competitors how do I bring best conversations out of people right right how do I understand the best Playbook of achievement of growth precisely and I'm sure prakar or Raj they are not competing with each other three separate games I want to make the strongest possible people come out of this country I want leaders out of this country which is very different from yours which is very different from the numbers when the number talks about his stuff I in fact learn so much of my work ethic from guys who I am in direct competition with you I'll speak to whenever he simplifies problems so much if I should upload this episode this was not it's like off online and so if I had that competitive Instinct one it would show I will not ruin a 10-year long friendship based on competition that visually appears to be competition two this reminds me of what we were saying about that friend right I have that I have that brother brother in VIN number we were friends and now we are friends when the world knows us when we walk into rooms and it's insanely good to know that you've gotten when whenever I was trying to get his career off I would invite him on streams I would have him there I'd be like bro you don't stop you don't stop when I was down and out when I was going through he called me he's like and that is the kind of spine building support I wish all people have Pro incredible guys like actually podcasts before any of this was real for him or me right and when I speak to him like the conversation will start there instead of being like Oh So sir it is so much more valuable to have relationships and conversations on that level than on the level of who's winning it's so irrelevant true and the pie is big enough and I tell I was just gonna come to that okay I genuinely feel that we are blessed to be in a country huge huge especially we are in a game of numbers you are doing prakar is there Raj is there uh number is there ranveer is there but culture problem us is a DIY culture do it yourself it never do it for me culture DIY so you want to engage because you're doing something every day yourself you want because that has become like a subconscious thing many people think at that time many people consume at that time and that is but if you think about it bro even if you look at any social class any Financial class any City any state everywhere the moment you can afford something you want to make it do it for me but my Contra point to that is that if you look at the number one YouTube channel is T-Series is audio is music it's for a reason because the most amount of content that is being played is when I cannot look at it regardless the masses are busy they are the ones doing it for me you see my point and I think so I see your point because the source of entertainment the source of education is very different than entertainment I can see that I can see that it's very different and I tell you also us was or is foreign skills you may not be the funniest comedian you may not be Zakir Khan but it will be funny I'm thinking maybe the question is whether you're five percentile or 0.1 percentile because if you're 0.1 percentile you'll be busy if you're five percentile you can be funny on stage that's it that's all you have to be to do comedy Now I think that public speakers are that so I come in Five Below yeah I want to only play games where I can be 0.1 huh at least the first game I want to play at least the first game I want to play is the 0.1 game because that's maximum leverage and then I'll move to the five percent games to have fun like I don't want to write books to sell I want to write books to think but if I do it right now I'm a stupid idiot because I could be spending all that time and energy to build an Empire and then we will write now exactly right exactly so priority yeah yeah so I want to be I want to be a musician or an artist okay in my head like I told you rapper but another DJ another guitarist right so I think at one point I might do that um I'll be okay okay I'm sorry