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Deltarune Fan Theories Tier List Lecture

Jul 6, 2024

Deltarune Fan Theories Tier List Lecture

Introduction

  • Presenter: Jaru
  • Topic: Ranking 85 prominent Deltarune fan theories in a tier list
  • Spoilers: Major spoilers for both Deltarune and Undertale
  • Community Input: Theories included based on suggestions and popular YouTube videos
  • Ranking Criteria: Personal preference on how much Jaru would like the theories to be true, not their likelihood
  • Note: Tiers may change throughout the lecture
  • Patreon Mention: Support for the channel

Theory Rankings

C-Tier Explanation

  • Neutral theories that could be cool but aren't particularly appealing to Jaru

Theories Ranked and Discussed

  1. Second Intro Voice is Chara - Neutral feelings about Chara being involved; lacks character development (C Tier)
  2. Four Shadows Foreshadow - Positive about potential foreshadowing; supports Toby Fox's style (B Tier)
  3. The Angel from the Prophecy is the Player - Disliked player-centric theories; against Toby Fox’s style (F Tier)
  4. Asgore Had a Hand in Dess's Disappearance - Not a fan; prefers significant events tied closely to Asgore's direct actions (D Tier)
  5. Ralsei Theory: Asriel is Dead and Possessing Kris - Highly liked for adding depth and emotion (S Tier)
  6. Asriel or Ralsei Sing 'Don't Forget' - Preferable to be ambiguous and interpreted in multiple ways (D Tier)
  7. Berdly is Falling Down in Weird Route - Enjoys the idea for its darkness and narrative significance (A Tier)
  8. Chapter 3 Secret Boss is Flowey - Likes the idea of dynamic consequences based on player actions (B Tier)
  9. Chess Theory - Finds it clever but ultimately stretching evidence; neutral (C Tier)
  10. Choice Between Noelle and Ralsei in the Future - Vague; neutral feelings (C Tier)
  11. Dark World in the Church - Positive; Toby Fox’s potential religious commentary (B Tier)
  12. Dark Worlds Equal D&D - Dislikes 'kids imagining' trope; not interesting (F Tier)
  13. Dark Worlds as Parallel to Undertale Areas - Neutral; potentially interesting parallels (C Tier)
  14. Darkners are Objects Brought to Life - Agreement; inherently a cool idea (A Tier)
  15. Deltarune Asriel Made Undertale - Disliked for reducing Undertale's impact; makes it just fan fiction (F Tier)
  16. Deltarune as Undertale Prequel - Disliked for needing Toby Fox to have lied; confuses narrative (D Tier)
  17. Deltarune as Alternate Universe to Undertale - Agreement; cool concept with lots of narrative potential (A Tier)
  18. Deltarune as Gaster's Undertale Fan Fiction - Memorable but disliked for making it Gaster’s meta plaything (F Tier)
  19. Deltarune as Undertale Genocide Sequel - Disliked due to making Deltarune merely consequence of another game (D Tier)
  20. Deltarune Papyrus as Incel and Asocial - Finds potential for interesting character if portrayed sympathetically (D Tier)
  21. Gas Leak Theory - Disliked for turning dark Fountain events into hallucinations (F Tier)
  22. Gaster Drove Jevil Mad - Agrees; finds the character driven madness interesting (A Tier)
  23. Gaster is Central to the Plot - Neutral, dependent on Gaster's character depth (C Tier)
  24. Gaster Made Deltarune - Disliked for making Deltarune merely a creation within Undertale; reduces narrative importance (D Tier)
  25. Gaster Split the Universe - Disliked for limiting narrative possibilities; focuses too much on Gaster (D Tier)
  26. Gaster Themed Battle Remix - Likes idea of thematic ties to Gaster in battle music (A Tier)
  27. Gaster vs. Chara (Swankybox) - Disliked for demonizing Chara and overemphasizing Gaster (D Tier)
  28. Grand Fountain Made Ralsei Special - Finds explanation boring and lacking depth (C Tier)
  29. Icy Theory (Half Bread Chaos) - Loves the hilarity and creativity of the idea (A Tier)
  30. Introductions to Chapters as Flashbacks - Believes there's hidden depth; positive about adding layers (A Tier)
  31. Roaring Knight Theories
  • Alvin: A-Tier; interesting if true
  • Annoying Dog: F-Tier; undermines stakes
  • Dess: D-Tier; less interesting as Roaring Knight
  • Kris: D-Tier; seen as boring and surface level
  • Mayor: C-Tier; lacks character depth
  • Papyrus: C-Tier; fairly neutral feelings
  • Ralsei: D-Tier; sees real-world identification as less interesting
  • Rules: B-Tier; amusing with some evidence
  • Vessel: C-Tier; not compelling enough
  1. Kris as Ralsei's Vessel - Disliked for making Kris significantly less human (D Tier)
  2. Kris as Undertale Frisk's Deltarune Version - Believes it would add depth and understanding to both games (A Tier)
  3. Kris Made Dark Fountain for Sympathetic Reasons (Dorked) - Finds good intentions more interesting (B Tier)
  4. Kris Summoned the Player - Disliked for making player part of plot (F Tier)
  5. Memoryheads Related to Deltarune - Neutral; can't see major impact on narrative (C Tier)
  6. Naked Ralsei Theory - Finds the escalating undressing humorous and potentially thematic (B Tier)
  7. Narrator Chara - Disliked in Deltarune context; prefers as Undyne theory (D Tier)
  8. Noelle Attacked Darkners at Start of Chapter 2 - Likes for adding dark undertone to Noelle’s character (A Tier)
  9. Noelle Created Spamton - Loved idea for its dark and tragic implications (S Tier)
  10. Noelle Killed Dess (Bandit Games) - Loves the tragedy of the scenario (S Tier)
  11. Oberon Smog - Jaru’s theory; believes it adds depth to Gerson’s character (B Tier)
  12. Papyrus as Eggman - Neutral; doesn't feel strongly about character (C Tier)
  13. Player Will Leave Kris and Become Vessel - Disliked for focusing on player as plot entity (F Tier)
  14. Ralsei Cares About Player, Not Kris (Dorked) - Disliked player-centric theories; opposed to player importance (F Tier)
  15. Ralsei has a Crush on the Player - Disliked player-centric theories; dislikes implied dynamics (F Tier)
  16. Ralsei has Shadow Crystal - Agreement; liked for additional depth (B Tier)
  17. Ralsei is a Girl - Finds interesting for thematic reasons and would clarify character relationships (A Tier)
  18. Ralsei is Asriel’s Dust - Loves for adding depth and parallelism; compelling (S Tier)
  19. Ralsei is Evil - Disliked for rehashing Flowey-like surprises (D Tier)
  20. Ralsei is Kris's Ideal Self - Disliked as simplistic and less compelling (D Tier)
  21. Ralsei is Kris's True Soul - Finds convoluted and less interesting (D Tier)
  22. Ralsei is the Red Horn Headband - Neutral feelings; sees it as minor detail (C Tier)
  23. Ralsei is Working with Gaster - Dislikes for potentially making Ralsei less autonomously good (D Tier)
  24. Ralsei Theory by Daisy Nows - Finds it fresh and creative; adds intriguing character depth (A Tier)
  25. Roaring Has Happened Before - Dislikes for adding unnecessary ancient timeline implications (D Tier)
  26. Rules is Gaster - Disliked for undermining character depth (D Tier)
  27. Rules is Important - Believes more layers can be intriguing; positive (B Tier)
  28. Sans as a Darkner - Neutral; thinks it answers some questions but lacks punch (C Tier)
  29. Sans is Ness - Disliked crossover idea; finds it unfounded (F Tier)
  30. Seam is Secret Boss - Not very interested; neutral feelings (C Tier)
  31. Secret Bosses Represent Seven Deadly Sins - Highly intrigued by theme depth (A Tier)
  32. Shadow Crystals Show Time Loop - Thinks it would be a cool reveal (B Tier)
  33. Spamton is Wrong Number Caller - Vaguely positive on evidence alignment (B Tier)
  34. Susie is from a Human Community - Likes for making Susie more relatable and complex (A Tier)
  35. Susie Has a Bad Home Life - Believes it would add tragic depth (A Tier)
  36. Susie is Half-Human - Loves for thematic and relational depth; finds it compelling (S Tier)
  37. Susie Can Resist the Player (Mystic Slime and Tiger Shark 859) - Disliked due to player-centric theories (D Tier)
  38. Tea Theory - Agreement; likes it for subtle character relationship cues (A Tier)
  39. Time Loop Theory - Adored for depth, philosophical layers, and narrative tragedy (S Tier)
  40. Toriel is Homophobic (Shea’s Commentary) - Dislikes for making characters caricatures and undermining nuance (F Tier)
  41. Toriel Kills Undyne (Swankybox) - Thinks tweaking could make it interesting for character development (B Tier)
  42. Universal Mother Theory - Finds it neat for reflecting characters’ relationships with their own mothers (B Tier)
  43. Undertale Sans is from Deltarune - Agreement; finds it compelling for further depth (A Tier)
  44. Woody Theory - Positive on thematic ties and extending narrative concepts (A Tier)

Conclusion

  • Summary of tier list
  • Encourages community to create their own versions of the tier list
  • Expresses appreciation for Patreon supporters

Patron Shout-Outs

  • Thanks to specific patrons for their support
  • Emphasis on the importance and kindness of their contributions