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Deltarune Fan Theories Tier List Lecture
Jul 6, 2024
Deltarune Fan Theories Tier List Lecture
Introduction
Presenter:
Jaru
Topic:
Ranking 85 prominent Deltarune fan theories in a tier list
Spoilers:
Major spoilers for both
Deltarune
and
Undertale
Community Input:
Theories included based on suggestions and popular YouTube videos
Ranking Criteria:
Personal preference on how much Jaru would like the theories to be true, not their likelihood
Note:
Tiers may change throughout the lecture
Patreon Mention:
Support for the channel
Theory Rankings
C-Tier Explanation
Neutral theories that could be cool but aren't particularly appealing to Jaru
Theories Ranked and Discussed
Second Intro Voice is Chara
- Neutral feelings about Chara being involved; lacks character development (C Tier)
Four Shadows Foreshadow
- Positive about potential foreshadowing; supports Toby Fox's style (B Tier)
The Angel from the Prophecy is the Player
- Disliked player-centric theories; against Toby Fox’s style (F Tier)
Asgore Had a Hand in Dess's Disappearance
- Not a fan; prefers significant events tied closely to Asgore's direct actions (D Tier)
Ralsei Theory: Asriel is Dead and Possessing Kris
- Highly liked for adding depth and emotion (S Tier)
Asriel or Ralsei Sing 'Don't Forget'
- Preferable to be ambiguous and interpreted in multiple ways (D Tier)
Berdly is Falling Down in Weird Route
- Enjoys the idea for its darkness and narrative significance (A Tier)
Chapter 3 Secret Boss is Flowey
- Likes the idea of dynamic consequences based on player actions (B Tier)
Chess Theory
- Finds it clever but ultimately stretching evidence; neutral (C Tier)
Choice Between Noelle and Ralsei in the Future
- Vague; neutral feelings (C Tier)
Dark World in the Church
- Positive; Toby Fox’s potential religious commentary (B Tier)
Dark Worlds Equal D&D
- Dislikes 'kids imagining' trope; not interesting (F Tier)
Dark Worlds as Parallel to Undertale Areas
- Neutral; potentially interesting parallels (C Tier)
Darkners are Objects Brought to Life
- Agreement; inherently a cool idea (A Tier)
Deltarune Asriel Made Undertale
- Disliked for reducing Undertale's impact; makes it just fan fiction (F Tier)
Deltarune as Undertale Prequel
- Disliked for needing Toby Fox to have lied; confuses narrative (D Tier)
Deltarune as Alternate Universe to Undertale
- Agreement; cool concept with lots of narrative potential (A Tier)
Deltarune as Gaster's Undertale Fan Fiction
- Memorable but disliked for making it Gaster’s meta plaything (F Tier)
Deltarune as Undertale Genocide Sequel
- Disliked due to making Deltarune merely consequence of another game (D Tier)
Deltarune Papyrus as Incel and Asocial
- Finds potential for interesting character if portrayed sympathetically (D Tier)
Gas Leak Theory
- Disliked for turning dark Fountain events into hallucinations (F Tier)
Gaster Drove Jevil Mad
- Agrees; finds the character driven madness interesting (A Tier)
Gaster is Central to the Plot
- Neutral, dependent on Gaster's character depth (C Tier)
Gaster Made Deltarune
- Disliked for making Deltarune merely a creation within Undertale; reduces narrative importance (D Tier)
Gaster Split the Universe
- Disliked for limiting narrative possibilities; focuses too much on Gaster (D Tier)
Gaster Themed Battle Remix
- Likes idea of thematic ties to Gaster in battle music (A Tier)
Gaster vs. Chara (Swankybox)
- Disliked for demonizing Chara and overemphasizing Gaster (D Tier)
Grand Fountain Made Ralsei Special
- Finds explanation boring and lacking depth (C Tier)
Icy Theory (Half Bread Chaos)
- Loves the hilarity and creativity of the idea (A Tier)
Introductions to Chapters as Flashbacks
- Believes there's hidden depth; positive about adding layers (A Tier)
Roaring Knight Theories
Alvin:
A-Tier; interesting if true
Annoying Dog:
F-Tier; undermines stakes
Dess:
D-Tier; less interesting as Roaring Knight
Kris:
D-Tier; seen as boring and surface level
Mayor:
C-Tier; lacks character depth
Papyrus:
C-Tier; fairly neutral feelings
Ralsei:
D-Tier; sees real-world identification as less interesting
Rules:
B-Tier; amusing with some evidence
Vessel:
C-Tier; not compelling enough
Kris as Ralsei's Vessel
- Disliked for making Kris significantly less human (D Tier)
Kris as Undertale Frisk's Deltarune Version
- Believes it would add depth and understanding to both games (A Tier)
Kris Made Dark Fountain for Sympathetic Reasons (Dorked)
- Finds good intentions more interesting (B Tier)
Kris Summoned the Player
- Disliked for making player part of plot (F Tier)
Memoryheads Related to Deltarune
- Neutral; can't see major impact on narrative (C Tier)
Naked Ralsei Theory
- Finds the escalating undressing humorous and potentially thematic (B Tier)
Narrator Chara
- Disliked in Deltarune context; prefers as Undyne theory (D Tier)
Noelle Attacked Darkners at Start of Chapter 2
- Likes for adding dark undertone to Noelle’s character (A Tier)
Noelle Created Spamton
- Loved idea for its dark and tragic implications (S Tier)
Noelle Killed Dess (Bandit Games)
- Loves the tragedy of the scenario (S Tier)
Oberon Smog
- Jaru’s theory; believes it adds depth to Gerson’s character (B Tier)
Papyrus as Eggman
- Neutral; doesn't feel strongly about character (C Tier)
Player Will Leave Kris and Become Vessel
- Disliked for focusing on player as plot entity (F Tier)
Ralsei Cares About Player, Not Kris (Dorked)
- Disliked player-centric theories; opposed to player importance (F Tier)
Ralsei has a Crush on the Player
- Disliked player-centric theories; dislikes implied dynamics (F Tier)
Ralsei has Shadow Crystal
- Agreement; liked for additional depth (B Tier)
Ralsei is a Girl
- Finds interesting for thematic reasons and would clarify character relationships (A Tier)
Ralsei is Asriel’s Dust
- Loves for adding depth and parallelism; compelling (S Tier)
Ralsei is Evil
- Disliked for rehashing Flowey-like surprises (D Tier)
Ralsei is Kris's Ideal Self
- Disliked as simplistic and less compelling (D Tier)
Ralsei is Kris's True Soul
- Finds convoluted and less interesting (D Tier)
Ralsei is the Red Horn Headband
- Neutral feelings; sees it as minor detail (C Tier)
Ralsei is Working with Gaster
- Dislikes for potentially making Ralsei less autonomously good (D Tier)
Ralsei Theory by Daisy Nows
- Finds it fresh and creative; adds intriguing character depth (A Tier)
Roaring Has Happened Before
- Dislikes for adding unnecessary ancient timeline implications (D Tier)
Rules is Gaster
- Disliked for undermining character depth (D Tier)
Rules is Important
- Believes more layers can be intriguing; positive (B Tier)
Sans as a Darkner
- Neutral; thinks it answers some questions but lacks punch (C Tier)
Sans is Ness
- Disliked crossover idea; finds it unfounded (F Tier)
Seam is Secret Boss
- Not very interested; neutral feelings (C Tier)
Secret Bosses Represent Seven Deadly Sins
- Highly intrigued by theme depth (A Tier)
Shadow Crystals Show Time Loop
- Thinks it would be a cool reveal (B Tier)
Spamton is Wrong Number Caller
- Vaguely positive on evidence alignment (B Tier)
Susie is from a Human Community
- Likes for making Susie more relatable and complex (A Tier)
Susie Has a Bad Home Life
- Believes it would add tragic depth (A Tier)
Susie is Half-Human
- Loves for thematic and relational depth; finds it compelling (S Tier)
Susie Can Resist the Player (Mystic Slime and Tiger Shark 859)
- Disliked due to player-centric theories (D Tier)
Tea Theory
- Agreement; likes it for subtle character relationship cues (A Tier)
Time Loop Theory
- Adored for depth, philosophical layers, and narrative tragedy (S Tier)
Toriel is Homophobic (Shea’s Commentary)
- Dislikes for making characters caricatures and undermining nuance (F Tier)
Toriel Kills Undyne (Swankybox)
- Thinks tweaking could make it interesting for character development (B Tier)
Universal Mother Theory
- Finds it neat for reflecting characters’ relationships with their own mothers (B Tier)
Undertale Sans is from Deltarune
- Agreement; finds it compelling for further depth (A Tier)
Woody Theory
- Positive on thematic ties and extending narrative concepts (A Tier)
Conclusion
Summary of tier list
Encourages community to create their own versions of the tier list
Expresses appreciation for Patreon supporters
Patron Shout-Outs
Thanks to specific patrons for their support
Emphasis on the importance and kindness of their contributions
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