Navigating Public Persona and Personal Growth

I always put out there like I'm this tough, hard person and I don't care about anything. But it's like the stuff that people are saying and how much hate it is actually hurtful. Like I'm like I was like I'm about to crash out. Hi! Oh my goodness, it's so good to see you. This feels so surreal to be in here right now. Okay, I just wanna start off, do you know anything about Girl Talk? I have been stalking you guys since you dropped the first episode. Are you serious? Oh, period! Okay, so you like know, know. Obviously I'm such a fan of you two. I haven't met you guys yet. Hi. Hi. I'm Bella. I'm Aubrey. I'm Sophie. Nice to meet you guys. Nice to meet you. Yeah, obviously we know her because we worked on Almost Popular together. How was that? Great. It was a great time. Amazing. I loved it. I had so much fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys killed it. Oh, no, you killed it. You killed it. Please, let's relax. Right, right. And I watched your, is it on Netflix, your movie that you're in? Maybe, possibly. Like, no. I watched it and it was so good. So did I. Hold on, I know her. Yeah, was that the most recent film that you've done? It's the most recent one that's come out, yes. Okay, I got it. I actually filmed that two years ago, so. Really? It was a bit of time ago. When it, like, first went out, were you nervous at all? Because, like, I know there's certain scenes, like, for sure, that, like, could be nerve-wracking when it first comes out. I mean, yeah, it's a raunchy comedy, you know? It's not going to be for everybody. Right. But I had fun. We all had fun. It was a very comfortable and safe set, so I'm just glad I was able to be a part of something like that. Yeah. It was a good time. I have a crush on the boy in it. Oh, my God. Doesn't everyone? Yeah, I can't he's like a little brother to me so it's so funny like having like messages Oh, I know my younger cousin like oh my god set me up. I'm like alright. Let's relax right Like when it comes to acting and everything like that Do you ever get nervous like with so many people seeing you or like how do you handle it mentally? I mean it is nerve-racking you're putting yourself on the spot for like the whole world to see essentially But I think I the whole reason I enjoy acting so much is because I don't have to necessarily be myself I'm playing a character so So I think that kind of like lets off a little bit of pressure because I'm like, OK, if people don't like this version of me, well, it's not me. It's like someone fake. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot, though, because I mean, when it just comes to like in general, like looks and stuff like that, it can be scary. You never know how people are going to perceive you. But I think in this industry especially, you have to not think about that. Yeah. Would you say you handle like the negative comments? Well, I would say so. I mean. I think I've come to a point in my life where I just don't care. Because you can't. You literally can't. When you are putting yourself in front of so many people, there's no point. Like, everyone's going to have something to say. But the only opinion that should matter is your own. When you're putting yourself out there publicly, it's obviously for people to see you. So no matter what, people are going to comment on it either way. To be in such an industry, you have to have a hard skin and, like, no, not everyone's going to like you. With, like, Girl Talk right now, we're starting to, you know, like, get, like, a little bit bigger. So, of course, more people are going to like you. we're gonna have more things to say. And like, definitely we've been getting some hate and that happens. No, no, correction. I've been getting hate. They love her. Hey, wait, hold on. Let's talk about that. I don't like when you say it like that. No, and then the fans are like trying to make us go against each other. Like where, like they think that like, they try to pin us to it. Cause we filmed an episode. Okay. So we filmed an episode with like basically one of Brooklyn's ex-boyfriends. And it got taken out of context in certain ways. What the internet saw is, you know, what we put out. Because they're not going to know that the energy shifted when the cameras turned off. I just feel like if people knew the real, I wouldn't be painted out to be this bad person. I don't feel like I've ever got... Like this much hate in my life when I tell you like Like of course I would get hate comments, but like this situation Have you been purposely like looking at it like purposely searching up like oh no I open my phone You can go to my For You page now and you swipe. It's literally the election in Brooklyn. In Brooklyn. In the election. In Kamala and Trump in Brooklyn. Like, that's it. All the that validates certain reasons why Brooklyn was doing certain things. people don't know about at all yeah like I don't know I I always put out there like I'm this tough hard person and I don't care about anything and like I've learned to like not care about what people say but like I don't think I think I was like that because it wasn't as serious to me but it's like the stuff that people are saying and how much hated it's actually hurtful like I'm like I was like I'm about to crash out I think that the fact is about it though like at the end of the day like it really does affect everybody Like, no matter how hard you are, like, no matter what front you want to put on, like, that's a hard thing to do. And, like, being in the industry, it's just going to happen, obviously. But sometimes, like, all the comments just really aren't necessary. So, like, that's why it's difficult. When first joining the industry, did you know that that was, like, a possibility? And, like, were you scared of it or anything like that? I mean, I don't know. I feel like when I started acting, I was in middle school. And I started off with background jobs. So I kind of, like, lit. Oh, yeah. Okay. So I, like, lived through the hate in real life. Yeah. Because of, I mean, just. kids being kids. Like, I would come to school after not being in school for a whole day because I had to go to New York. I grew up in Philly for a background job. And then I'd come back to kids being like, oh, what were you, like, background number 500? Like, first of all, relax, I grew up okay. Thank you. Let me vibe, all right? I was so much, they weren't even BG. Let me vibe. Yeah. Not too much, but I mean, it was fine. You know, I think I lived through that, I grew through that, and I was able to handle it at such a young age in person, in school. where I mean I understand now because at the time nobody knew what that industry like the industry was what this lifestyle was yeah in Philly because nobody did it there weren't many like actors I was the only actor that I knew actually going to real sets and stuff like that yeah and I just I had to learn how to get through it like you said tough skin you're gonna have your moments though like not everyone's gonna be at a hundred all the time and I think what's most important is having positive people in your life because I think that's what got me me through it the most. If you're having negative people around you that have like a negative outlooks on life, on themselves, more than likely you're gonna feel the same way. You're gonna get that too, yeah. You're gonna have that energy as well. Oh my gosh. You don't need that. Yeah. It's all about protecting your peace. Right. Very, very much into that, so. I mean, especially for your situation, you have these beautiful girls here. You have me. I'm sure you have a lovely family that have you and they support you. And nobody knows. The Internet does not know what's actually going on. What actually goes on. Right. Cleared. Whatever. It's over. Who cares? Do you think having kids talk to you that way and say things like it made you grow up faster than they were? I think so. I mean, just in general. I did online school halfway through eighth grade because I was focusing more on acting. I had a lot of auditions. I was always absent from school because I had to travel to New York and stuff like that. And yeah, I don't know. I think moving out to LA is what really made me mature faster because I was like, wait, this is... This is serious. I think I moved out when I was 16. It's like the fast lane. Seriously. For a show. And like everybody here, they're just like adults at 15 years old. So I grew up so much faster than I probably should have. But it also, I'm 21 now. Okay, okay. And so it also helped me though, because like I said, it definitely allowed me to have that thick skin. I'm so lucky too and grateful because the people that I've worked with at such a young age, they were all just beautiful. humans in the industry which you don't always get no sometimes you get like actually like evil people they're like exploiting and like crazy things yeah it's it's crazy i mean i'm just so grateful for especially the women in my life at that time um the show that i was on love victor i worked with um this woman called anna rt she played my mom on the show she is such a beautiful human and she's like a second mom she was a second mom she really was and i don't think she realizes to this day like how important her just her being in my life was Yeah, I look back on it now and we actually rekindled because I did But I worked on a little a little project where I played the mini her cute And so I got to see her again and I was just telling her how grateful I was for her because you need strong powerful Women, especially. Yeah at this point. We don't trust guys I remember I was in public school until fifth grade like me and her went to the same elementary school and like when I would go down to LA like I would come back and kids would like say the same thing and I feel like I actually handled it better then than I do now. When I go to school now and someone's like oh would you go down to LA to film girl talk I'm like yeah I did like do you want an episode like I crash out like I just get irritated right away because it's like just mind your business like get out but when I was little I was like yeah I did like it was so much fun like I loved it so I really feel like I handled it worse I did not care about how I looked on camera at all like I would wake up like film like I just did not care Yeah, hey comments like oh, she looks ugly. I think Carol's like all right and right now. I like I crash out I'm like what do you mean? I look ugly. I'm cute like I like start like getting so worked up right like commenting like Exactly like Brooklyn situation you're handling your whole hate thing so well Oh, well, I would be bawling my eyes out on the internet Crashing out so badly no I get one comment, and I'm like what It's so hard because like you want to practice what you preach, right? So when I say like oh who cares what the comments are saying when I get one comment and it's like Sarah look ugly I'm like damn it Sarah looks ugly. I Get upset like what do I do next? I'm not ugly like that That's what people don't realize about like people in the industry like acting Influencing singing whatever like no matter what you're saying and no matter how long they've been in it actually does like all Right, yeah, we're all human at the end of the day. I think the other thing is like you never know know where someone actually is mentally like with or without this kind of stuff like just normal day-to-day life things like people can really be struggling so it's like then to add that on top of it like you can really set someone off to doing something that you would never want to see happen to anybody like ever like mental health is such like an interesting concept to me because I feel like whenever somebody mentally struggles like it's not like one certain thing triggers it it's like a bunch of different things over a period of time then hit you like all at once and then you're just tired like that's how I always explain it when I'm having having a hard time with mental health is that I'm just tired. Not sleep-wise, but genuinely, I just don't want to be thinking anymore. I feel drained, too. I have too many thoughts. I'm over it. But I do want to say mental health for a normal person is so important. Important. I know someone like my brother, mental health. When I tell you, it's not because of comments. It's just because you grow up, you go through stuff. Everybody deals with it, and I'm positive that all of us have. It's like something. some certain thing that like triggers us and can put us somewhere mentally that like nobody you know wants to be what's something that like would be difficult maybe for you I think the older that you get the more you realize that like nobody else's opinions matter. And I feel like the only reason you'll ever think a certain way about something that you might feel insecure about is because maybe someone mentioned something. Or, like you said, the comments. And I think the older that I've gotten, the more that I realize that the only validation that I need is from myself. And so it has been easier to deal with just, you know, loving every single aspect of myself, even the imperfect things. Right. Again, like I said, we're all here. human right so to be honest I don't necessarily have like a single thing that like I struggle with at the moment I mean like okay everyday things like sometimes I'll be like oh why do my eyebrows look like that or like yeah like why why did I wake up like so puffy or something like that yeah but I don't sit there and and just kind of like ruminate and I just I let it go I'm like okay this is just today I want to wake up and just think about why am I so puffy you You know like when you don't get like a role or something like that like I know a lot of people have talked about it feels like rejection in like a certain sense and you start to like criticize yourself have you had that happen? Like I said I have such a strong support system of just friends and family that are here with me through it all. through the ups and the downs, but rejection, it sucks. It's awful. But I think that's something that you have to be aware of when you come into an industry like this. There's going to be a million no's before you get that one yes. That's like the other thing about it is like it takes so much time to... finally get to like what you've been looking for obviously it like doesn't happen just like right away either and like that process can be so hard that's why i'm so grateful for everything that i have that in the moments where even i am feeling a little down like oh i haven't heard back from this yet or like where's my call about this i i just have to humble myself i'm just grateful for for what i have um and yeah that i think with when it comes to rejection i just gotta just gotta nip it on the butt you can't be too sad you can't You can't sit in your sadness. Yeah. What about, like, with moving? Has that been, like, a hard process? Because, like, I know people when they move, like, they're so, like, stressed out. It's just, like, everything's on 10 and it's just too much. Yeah, I'm moving, so let me hear your thoughts. I had a situation, I had a roommate, it was kind of crazy. And I don't know, I just really needed to be home. The moving process was a little scary and difficult because it was my first time moving on my own, like packing everything up on myself. I'm with my mom now and I haven't lived with her like full time in five years. So did you move back in with your mom or did you get your own place? I have my own house. Oh nice. And so my mom lives in my house. Oh your mom's living with you? Yeah yeah yeah. Aww I love that. Oh my mommy. Oh my god it's so cute. I love the best thing ever. She's my best friend. That's so real. My mom's my best friend, too. Yeah, my mom's my best friend. It's been so nice finally being back and feeling like my home is, because I've had my home for three years now, but I haven't been able to fully decorate it the way that I want to. Make it your home. Make it my own and feel like, oh, wait, this is home because I've been in L.A. So it's been really nice to just kind of chill with her and get used to each other again fully. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, like living with your mom again. Yeah. It's almost like as if I went to college or something. Right. And then I'm coming back home. You're moving back in. I'm moving back in. So it's been nice. I love my mom and she's the best. She's like my rock star. She's still raising you. So cute. I know, she's still raising me and I love that. And I hope that that continues to happen because obviously, I mean, she's still growing too. Like I think about it all the time. Like our parents are still. First time living too. This is their first time living. It's so crazy. It's creepy when you think about it. No, I know. No way. Sometimes I feel like I'm raising her too like when I teach her about TikTok trends and stuff. Yeah, like keep her updated. Yeah, I have to. You gotta keep her up to date with the trends. Has she ever, have you ever gotten a role and she's like maybe like don't? Um, I mean, yeah, she she has her opinions about everything that I've done so far. She's she's fine with but like I tell her everything so anytime I get an audition, I'm like, what do you think about this? She'll give me her honest opinion she'll be like i don't know about that and then i'm probably gonna be like all right i see your point yeah um mom validation is like really important it is it is her opinion matters the most to me and obviously we don't agree on everything but for the most part she's always right about everything that no like seriously why are moms always right but she is always right about every single thing so even if i don't see it in the moment i always think in the future i'm like i don't want to be wrong i don't want to like i don't want her to be right and then i'm wrong especially with people like my mom like always literally knows with people she'll be like something's gonna happen there and i'm like you're like stop yeah and then like something like they screw me over and i'm like damn it like Just like are you serious? Yeah four months later like I should have just listened. I should have just listened. The mom intuition is crazy It's crazy Yeah I always talk about like I feel like my mom almost has like powers in like a certain sense because I'm just like always confused I'm like what's going on my mom like I really think that my family psychic like I genuinely believe this like me my mom She thinks she's psychic too. I am Bro I'm telling you. I'm dead Like me and my mom like just get feelings about things like it's actually just like a whole feeling like I don't know how to explain it It's just like a whole feeling comes over you and it's always right. It's always right and it could be about other people It could be about situations like anything and my mom will come in my room be like I got this feeling about you this morning. Like is it right? Like I didn't even know like I was asleep. How did you even figure that out while I'm sleeping? Like I genuinely if she's psychic or it's just like I don't know you're intertwined cuz like it's your mom or something like that But like genuinely I get like freaked out like for you. Yeah. Oh, yeah Have you dealt with, like, any crazy moms or anything like that? I mean, probably not as much. Well, I mean, I grew up as a dancer. So, actually, yes. Dance moms are a thing. Is that what you started? Yeah, I started off dancing. I started dancing when I was five years old. And I did competitive dancing from the ages of, like, I want to say eight to 13, I think, maybe. And moms are crazy. They're crazy. They ride for their daughters, which is fine. Oh, my God. It makes sense. Which you're supposed to. But, like, don't treat me no type of way. Right. Oh, it was crazy times back then. Like I was a child and these moms, you could hear them like talking bad about little girls. I'm like, what are you doing? Oh my God, my daughter didn't get a solo and this one did, she can't even dance. Excuse me. It's like clearly she can. Yeah. That industry is like extremely rough and especially with like body dysmorphia Yeah is like crazy and like a lot of rejection like dance teachers and like personal relationships Like I don't I don't understand like you're very strong for being a dancer but did you, like, struggle and face those things too? The whole favoritism just in general, like, I feel like that happens in a majority of studios that, from what I've heard, like, I have other dancer friends that I've... Because they, like, praise the better dancers. Yeah, yeah, it's weird. It's a strange... thing to be a part of especially at such a young age where you so so blatantly know like this person is the favorite you know it makes you feel less than right so you feel like I'm damn I'm not good enough to even be here what am I doing here and again I'm like eight years old you shouldn't be feeling like that no they're like you going cuz you just like one to have fun and like yeah exactly exactly and i mean i it really depends like some some dancers go there to have fun some dancers go there because like they want to do this for their career at least they think so yeah um and it's it's weird it's a weird thing thing to be a part of and like body dysmorphia is such a big thing like I feel like when I was younger I didn't think too much about that stuff but I did see like my older fellow dancers like looking at themselves in the mirror and being like oh I need to like lose some weight or something and they look perfect yeah and these are like people that I idolized when I was younger so I'm like wow I can't believe they're looking at themselves and saying these things I feel like people don't realize too like I guess I'm not like I don't know like the dance industry like that but I feel like with social media in general with the amount of like body dysmorphia like everyone i feel like universally has something obvious something about you like you don't like right yeah unless you love yourself to a t right but like i feel like a lot of people like don't realize how much like body dysmorphia goes on even with the people who are like perfectly ripped like yeah still feel a certain type of way i think that's so well i think it's like with social media no matter what there's gonna be body dysmorphia because people watching are gonna get body dysmorphia from who they're watching and then people who are posting are gonna get body dysmorphia you know from people who are hard on them themselves and like all just different kinds of things like do you do you do like social media like would you like say like you're pretty involved in social media I would say like I'm I'm starting to be I'm trying to be I don't know I would I've never been the biggest fan of social media because of that fact right people get so invested in it and social media can be such a beautiful thing it could be a place for you to learn or to hear things like this where you guys are able to talk and like have honest conversations show your personality yeah but then there is the negative dark side of social media where you get so involved in these comments or watching these videos and feeling like you need to it's like a rabbit hole yeah yeah it's it's really scary so I would always it'd be okay I'm gonna post on Instagram and then that's it I'm not posting for like two months I'm good I'm fine yeah she did her post yeah no no but then like TikTok came out around the pandemic and so I'm I'm over here scrolling and scrolling and scrolling away and so I started making my own little tiki talks you um I mean but I just do it for fun you know I try not to to put too much pressure into stuff like that because I don't want to be so deeply involved. Yeah. Personally for me like I love influencing and I think like there's there's really bad parts of it but also like being an influencer is influencing someone so like speaking what you think is right and that you want to bring to people to learn and for them like to know from you is like so important. I think period yes like look up to you and like are inspired by you and admire you and it's like so letting them know how you feel about situations is so important sometimes I mean social media is a job guys like I I didn't I mean obviously I knew that it was a lot of work like Like, I have a lot of friends that are simply social media influencers. It's so hard. I've only just started recently, like, understanding, okay, this is the process. Right. Like, talking with media teams and, like, seeing the rundown of how things go. I'm like, this is a full-time job. I don't know if I want to do all of this. But I feel like we've gotten to a point where it's just, like, normal. Like, it's our life now. It's our life. It's like, it's in our daily routine. Yeah, it's just day to day. So, it's not, you know, it's not that. It doesn't feel hard because it's, like, what we have to do. do when i'm like one of the worst influencers like i suck at posting on no like i'm a horrible doesn't post at all like because i feel like oh i just but she'll post on her spam all the time like girl i'm crying i'd much rather just like hang out with my friends and like have fun instead of posting a tiktok okay i get that i don't care to do that i've realized to balance it though like i'll get my tiktok done i'll be like yo do you like want to hang out do a tiktok and then like i'll go back to the hangout you know what i mean like i found a way to like balance it yeah because like i would literally go to every hangout i'd be like on my phone phone like trying to post and like that was just too much yeah so then i like came up with a little bit of a balance and like sometimes my friends are like really i got a tiktok right now i'm like yeah like come on like let's go to talk real quick and then like go back to the hangout but i don't know i feel like if you can find a way to balance it what kind of tiktoks do you mainly post you do like thirst trap dancing talking there's like genres of tiktok brooklyn does thirst trap i do yes i do thirst traps yes hair you're like my girl got diamonds on her I never did that TikTok. No, but you do like their straps. It's like you looking like bad and you're like, hey. So, so far being on TikTok, have you dealt with any like comments or? No, she gets all good comments. I can tell. She's just a baddie. Like, she doesn't get herself into nothing. I mean, I will, again, I try not to look at the comments. I will say, like, I, I don't know. I haven't seen, like, any crazy comments. Like, if they are crazy comments, it's like an 80-year-old man. Why are you on TikTok? Get off of TikTok. Dude, I've been clicking on, like, the old guys, and it's like them, like, we're going fishing today. I mean, that's good. Like, not looking at the comments definitely solves the solution. Like, don't even know what they're saying. Like, out of sight, out of mind. Yeah, I can't. I would like the same. Like I never was in my comments like I really just didn't care until I like did started doing girl talk like then I started Reading comments because I wanted to know like feedback obviously like it's just more like trying to see like reviews and that but before then I didn't You said it if you're a fan if you watch my if you're a hater and you still watch me your fan your fan Yeah, you're a fan. If you don't have haters, you're not popping. It's bad for you when people aren't talking about you Yeah, right like if they're not if you're talking about people are gonna hate no matter Yeah, but like if they weren't talking about us then then we'd be so irrelevant. Like, it'd be-You're irrelevant and everyone's large. Which is not a bad thing to be irrelevant because honestly, sometimes being irrelevant is peace of mind, honestly. Like, just-I don't never want to be irrelevant. Oh, okay. Right. Because you walk all the way to the one you want to be in. You see her shirt? Yeah, I hate being dramatic. I love being dramatic. What's something you've been like doing recently like to help yourself with like your mental health obviously with all the hate comments? Like what's something everybody does? Cussing my phone out. Like that makes you feel better? No, literally. If I see like someone making a video about me or anything like on TikTok because that's all I've been seeing is like people making like, Brooke, you're pissing me off. And I paused the video and I'm like, you piss me off. So I literally watched her pull out of her phone and she was like, I will beat y'all up. I'm like, come on, Sy, don't play with me. And I was like. No, seriously, because that's what people don't know. Like I'm a real person. I literally, if I see the person, like if I see a video of somebody about me and I see you in person, I'm going to slap the out of you. I don't care. Okay, so have you ever tried like breathing in? Ever. Breathing out. I'm not even playing around. I'm being so serious. Breathing it out. Yes. Let's all do it, ready? I'm not irritated. Breathing in. It's not working, I'm still pissed. I hate all of you guys. Yeah, let it out. out let it out let it go with your breath like imagine you letting it go you should start doing yoga i'm serious it's not working she's ready to fight more now that just calmed me down to get ready to fight oh my god no but put it on the boxing on a serious note not like you know like the getting mad and stuff like that how i handle it is i just think about where i want to be in life do i want to be a person who just argues with people all the time because they say something about me or or they feel like i'm a certain way like Like, do I want to be like that or do I just want to be peaceful? So then it's like I have two sides to me. I don't know which side I want to be. Right. There's two sides. I want to do both, though. Like, I want to slap the s*** out of you, but then I just want to be like, oh, it's okay. Like, I just slapped you. We're fine. Right. I just slapped you. We're fine, too. There's no beef. Like, we don't even need to talk about each other or to each other ever again. Yeah. Just let me slap you first. Right. Right. Right, right. That's how I feel. No, yeah. I think the second part is maturity. Yeah. That's what I think. Peace is maturity. I think peace is maturity. I agree. Protecting your peace is maturity. I also think it's mature, though, to just go about it and slap the s***. That's mature, too. I mean, I don't really know where it's mature. I'm a violent person and it's bad. Wait, wait. I need counseling. I need therapy. We need to send you to anger therapy management. How do you handle when you're in a mentally bad spot? Like, what do you do to help yourself? I journal a lot when I'm not doing well. And I make a lot of videos just talking to myself. I don't post them. I don't keep them. I just will record myself. I'll cry in the video. just so it feels like I'm like no one's judging me like it's my camera you know so I'll do that or I hang out with my brother a lot my brother is my everything love him so bad and my animals like really just being content with myself and what I have personally like not what my friends have going on or and yes I do like I'll hang out with my friends a lot but sometimes it's like You know, they all go through phases, they're all doing their own thing, so I just have to like remember like, I need to be okay with what I'll for sure have in my life. At the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I think that just comes with being open with yourself, like talking to yourself. a video or even in the mirror or like journaling and just listen to music the music that you listen to like really can affect your mood like if you're listening to sad music like and i was having a good day i'll get sad yes that's just how it is but if i'm listening to hype music oh no no no if i'm crying and like my favorite song plays and we're like oh okay what about you sophie how do you handle it um i want to say i do a lot of like writing too i feel like that definitely helps just to like get it out um i feel like if you write get it out of your system and then like it's gone right you don't have to reread it doesn't have to be I don't know, like I just I think being surrounded by my friends really helps because like if I'm having such like a bad day I'll call one of them and I'll be like yo what are you doing? It's like nothing like let's go hang out like alright bet like I feel like mm-hmm a person where if I'm having a bad day not that I'll bring that energy to the hangout but if I'm with my friends and they're like all hype I'm like I'm hype I don't know I think that really helps like having exactly what you said like positive people around you good energy yeah and spontaneous things I always like going on like random little things like that always just makes me yes or i'll go on walks on just have headphones on and just right like you're in a movie like yeah start singing that little sidewalk no no serious literally yes right yes yeah literally yes what about you i i mean i think i just i let myself like feel all of my feelings like i don't like hold anything in i if i need to take a nap i'll take a nap yeah um also that notes app on my phone yeah yeah do you lock your notes do it Oh, yes. Okay. Of course. Wait, I didn't know that was a thing. What? Yeah, you can make it like face ID or password. Wait, what? It's a little diary. Aw. Sophie, what are you writing in your nose? Sophie. That's another thing, like with mental health, like I feel like actually guys affect a lot of it and people don't, like, I don't even think guys realize that either. Like when like you like another girl, you know what I mean? And you were like my boyfriend or something like that, like it takes a toll on me. because then I'm like, whoa. Why was I high enough? Like, why was I high enough in certain ways? Would you say when, like, your time was the worst, it was because of men? No. That's good. I actually don't think so. I don't think that ever. Do I think that it had an effect on it? Yeah, for sure. But I think that overall, like, when I've mentally been the worst, it's just, like, a bunch of things. And I feel like for myself, I'll never let it be a man is why I'm, like, really struggling. Because, like, they come and they go. Like, it's the same with anything. The only thing you have. the end of the day is like actually yourself yeah so just like as long as you like if you like yourself it'll be good right like that's where you have to get for mental health like no matter where you are is like just liking yourself because everybody's gonna come and go well if you don't like yourself how you're like how is somebody gonna like you like rupaul said if you can't love yourself how the hell you're gonna love anyone else can i get an amen that's facts that is facts but like you're at a point where you're like happy with everything and like you know chilling like a villain you're not always going to feel a hundred yeah but you don't always have to feel hundred like right just it is what it is um it's gonna be what it's gonna be but yeah i think i at this point in my life i can positively say that i'm happy with who i am as a person and that's what is so important and like you said we only have each other at the end of the day like we only have ourselves at the end of the day right so i'm not worried i know that i i love myself i love the person that i what's meant to come will come exactly i also think that what has helped me with this as well is um i have nieces and nephews and when my sisters had kids i think my whole perspective changed like any negative thoughts i would say on myself like i would like look at like my nieces and nephews and think about them to say that exactly i would think about them growing up and like saying things that i was saying to myself yeah which is weird but it was because i would think of myself as a kid and like i kind of see myself in them in a way yeah and so that helped me so much I don't even know what clicked like I wish I could just like I can explain but literally looking at them and knowing that they exist and knowing that I can like call them every day and just imagining them saying the crazy things I was probably saying to myself at the time I would never want that like yeah it just kind of it turned me off I was like I'm not why am I doing this to myself that's so weird oh yeah that makes sense that's so weird so I don't know something just clicked and yeah and those comments I feel like are not gonna affect your life like they're gonna leave that comment and like obviously it can affect your mental but like in a gun life like yes yeah but I'm saying like in real life like how that person's not standing in front of you they don't know anything about you yeah it shouldn't like affect your life at all like you have your family your nieces you know what I mean like you don't what are you gonna do you're some random stranger who doesn't know me yeah is there any roles that you've had that you think has like grown you as a person or maybe like made you look at like the world differently or you you brought like a new aspect to your own personality I mean probably my first like bigger role when I was a series regular on the Victor I I was on that show for three years so I grew a lot in that time yeah I started it when I was like 15 or 16 or something like that like that's just such a prime age of Growth. Growth. And so I learned so much from the people that I was working with as well. Most of them were a little bit older than me. So I got so much good advice and learned so much about myself and acting in general. And that character, Pilar, she was a very angsty teen, rebellious, slamming doors in the house, which I would never do because my mom would kill me. But it was interesting playing somebody so completely different from me. Yeah. And I learned a lot through her. I learned how to, I mean, I feel like she loved herself. And so that kind of helped me in a way grow within myself as a person. Right. So yeah, probably that show. Yeah, I think that's such a cool part of acting is you are playing someone different and it's like you of course can bring yourself to that character But overall like how they think and how they're gonna handle Situations would be different from like what you do and I feel like you actually can learn a lot from characters that you're just playing Yeah, cuz it's like it's so different like when you look at a scenario, right? And if I was in that scenario, I would do this this and that but it's like my character might do something completely different And and they might kind of be right almost Yeah, so I think it is actually so like fascinating with acting like how much you can learn from it and like movies in general like I think movies are great I think they're amazing and I think you're an amazing actress yeah do you think that we're like a crazy group of girls like you guys are in are you scared first okay I'm each of us in one word okay firecracker your cracker my sister so it's it's firecracker Sarah I would say Sunshine like you radiate like this really which by the way you also radiate. Well, yeah, it's a firecracker Yes sunshine, I don't know if it's cuz you're wearing yellow right now, right? I might be the yellow in the town always managed to make me crack up and that it's just giving happiness You you're like you give me serenity like yeah, please You know your own person period Okay, day's made. Thank you. And you, you're very sweet. Aw, you're very sweet. Thank you. Yeah. Being close with all these girls, I'd actually agree with what you said about them. Really? Yeah. I did good. Yes, I would agree with the sunshine. Fine, no one thinks I'm sunshine. No, like a tornado. I would say loyal or honest as yours. Honest. That's sweet. No, Sarah's just so funny. Like you're just, literally, I can look at you and just laugh at you. Okay, there's like. It's like happy. Yeah, happy. Like, you're funny, but then it's like. And she said that. She was like, you make me laugh. Yeah, that's what she said. She was like, it's sunshine. That's why you laugh. Okay, listen. The thing you also. Well, of course she said that because you didn't show her the bad side. The attitude. Because you have to be professional. The cussing the people out. The, you know. Because we're not doing all that today. I've seen the episodes. I've seen how you guys get down. What do we want to outro with? We put our hands in the middle. Sunshine. No, mental health. Mental health matters. Mental health matters, yeah. We put our hands in the middle. On three we say it, okay? Okay, so on three. One, two, three. Mental health matters! Woo! Cute, cute. Also, almost popular. Almost popular. Almost popular! Almost popular. 2020 soon. Yes!

Hi! Oh my goodness, it's so good to see you. This feels so surreal to be in here right now.

Okay, I just wanna start off, do you know anything about Girl Talk? I have been stalking you guys since you dropped the first episode. Are you serious?

Oh, period! Okay, so you like know, know. Obviously I'm such a fan of you two. I haven't met you guys yet. Hi.

Hi. I'm Bella. I'm Aubrey. I'm Sophie. Nice to meet you guys.

Nice to meet you. Yeah, obviously we know her because we worked on Almost Popular together. How was that?

Great. It was a great time. Amazing.

I loved it. I had so much fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys killed it.

Oh, no, you killed it. You killed it. Please, let's relax.

Right, right. And I watched your, is it on Netflix, your movie that you're in? Maybe, possibly.

Like, no. I watched it and it was so good. So did I. Hold on, I know her.

Yeah, was that the most recent film that you've done? It's the most recent one that's come out, yes. Okay, I got it. I actually filmed that two years ago, so.

Really? It was a bit of time ago. When it, like, first went out, were you nervous at all?

Because, like, I know there's certain scenes, like, for sure, that, like, could be nerve-wracking when it first comes out. I mean, yeah, it's a raunchy comedy, you know? It's not going to be for everybody. Right. But I had fun.

We all had fun. It was a very comfortable and safe set, so I'm just glad I was able to be a part of something like that. Yeah.

It was a good time. I have a crush on the boy in it. Oh, my God. Doesn't everyone? Yeah, I can't he's like a little brother to me so it's so funny like having like messages Oh, I know my younger cousin like oh my god set me up.

I'm like alright. Let's relax right Like when it comes to acting and everything like that Do you ever get nervous like with so many people seeing you or like how do you handle it mentally? I mean it is nerve-racking you're putting yourself on the spot for like the whole world to see essentially But I think I the whole reason I enjoy acting so much is because I don't have to necessarily be myself I'm playing a character so So I think that kind of like lets off a little bit of pressure because I'm like, OK, if people don't like this version of me, well, it's not me.

It's like someone fake. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot, though, because I mean, when it just comes to like in general, like looks and stuff like that, it can be scary.

You never know how people are going to perceive you. But I think in this industry especially, you have to not think about that. Yeah. Would you say you handle like the negative comments?

Well, I would say so. I mean. I think I've come to a point in my life where I just don't care. Because you can't.

You literally can't. When you are putting yourself in front of so many people, there's no point. Like, everyone's going to have something to say. But the only opinion that should matter is your own. When you're putting yourself out there publicly, it's obviously for people to see you.

So no matter what, people are going to comment on it either way. To be in such an industry, you have to have a hard skin and, like, no, not everyone's going to like you. With, like, Girl Talk right now, we're starting to, you know, like, get, like, a little bit bigger.

So, of course, more people are going to like you. we're gonna have more things to say. And like, definitely we've been getting some hate and that happens.

No, no, correction. I've been getting hate. They love her.

Hey, wait, hold on. Let's talk about that. I don't like when you say it like that.

No, and then the fans are like trying to make us go against each other. Like where, like they think that like, they try to pin us to it. Cause we filmed an episode.

Okay. So we filmed an episode with like basically one of Brooklyn's ex-boyfriends. And it got taken out of context in certain ways.

What the internet saw is, you know, what we put out. Because they're not going to know that the energy shifted when the cameras turned off. I just feel like if people knew the real, I wouldn't be painted out to be this bad person.

I don't feel like I've ever got... Like this much hate in my life when I tell you like Like of course I would get hate comments, but like this situation Have you been purposely like looking at it like purposely searching up like oh no I open my phone You can go to my For You page now and you swipe. It's literally the election in Brooklyn. In Brooklyn. In the election.

In Kamala and Trump in Brooklyn. Like, that's it. All the that validates certain reasons why Brooklyn was doing certain things. people don't know about at all yeah like I don't know I I always put out there like I'm this tough hard person and I don't care about anything and like I've learned to like not care about what people say but like I don't think I think I was like that because it wasn't as serious to me but it's like the stuff that people are saying and how much hated it's actually hurtful like I'm like I was like I'm about to crash out I think that the fact is about it though like at the end of the day like it really does affect everybody Like, no matter how hard you are, like, no matter what front you want to put on, like, that's a hard thing to do. And, like, being in the industry, it's just going to happen, obviously.

But sometimes, like, all the comments just really aren't necessary. So, like, that's why it's difficult. When first joining the industry, did you know that that was, like, a possibility? And, like, were you scared of it or anything like that? I mean, I don't know.

I feel like when I started acting, I was in middle school. And I started off with background jobs. So I kind of, like, lit. Oh, yeah.

Okay. So I, like, lived through the hate in real life. Yeah. Because of, I mean, just. kids being kids.

Like, I would come to school after not being in school for a whole day because I had to go to New York. I grew up in Philly for a background job. And then I'd come back to kids being like, oh, what were you, like, background number 500? Like, first of all, relax, I grew up okay.

Thank you. Let me vibe, all right? I was so much, they weren't even BG. Let me vibe. Yeah.

Not too much, but I mean, it was fine. You know, I think I lived through that, I grew through that, and I was able to handle it at such a young age in person, in school. where I mean I understand now because at the time nobody knew what that industry like the industry was what this lifestyle was yeah in Philly because nobody did it there weren't many like actors I was the only actor that I knew actually going to real sets and stuff like that yeah and I just I had to learn how to get through it like you said tough skin you're gonna have your moments though like not everyone's gonna be at a hundred all the time and I think what's most important is having positive people in your life because I think that's what got me me through it the most. If you're having negative people around you that have like a negative outlooks on life, on themselves, more than likely you're gonna feel the same way.

You're gonna get that too, yeah. You're gonna have that energy as well. Oh my gosh.

You don't need that. Yeah. It's all about protecting your peace. Right.

Very, very much into that, so. I mean, especially for your situation, you have these beautiful girls here. You have me.

I'm sure you have a lovely family that have you and they support you. And nobody knows. The Internet does not know what's actually going on. What actually goes on.

Right. Cleared. Whatever.

It's over. Who cares? Do you think having kids talk to you that way and say things like it made you grow up faster than they were? I think so. I mean, just in general.

I did online school halfway through eighth grade because I was focusing more on acting. I had a lot of auditions. I was always absent from school because I had to travel to New York and stuff like that. And yeah, I don't know. I think moving out to LA is what really made me mature faster because I was like, wait, this is...

This is serious. I think I moved out when I was 16. It's like the fast lane. Seriously. For a show. And like everybody here, they're just like adults at 15 years old.

So I grew up so much faster than I probably should have. But it also, I'm 21 now. Okay, okay. And so it also helped me though, because like I said, it definitely allowed me to have that thick skin. I'm so lucky too and grateful because the people that I've worked with at such a young age, they were all just beautiful.

humans in the industry which you don't always get no sometimes you get like actually like evil people they're like exploiting and like crazy things yeah it's it's crazy i mean i'm just so grateful for especially the women in my life at that time um the show that i was on love victor i worked with um this woman called anna rt she played my mom on the show she is such a beautiful human and she's like a second mom she was a second mom she really was and i don't think she realizes to this day like how important her just her being in my life was Yeah, I look back on it now and we actually rekindled because I did But I worked on a little a little project where I played the mini her cute And so I got to see her again and I was just telling her how grateful I was for her because you need strong powerful Women, especially. Yeah at this point. We don't trust guys I remember I was in public school until fifth grade like me and her went to the same elementary school and like when I would go down to LA like I would come back and kids would like say the same thing and I feel like I actually handled it better then than I do now.

When I go to school now and someone's like oh would you go down to LA to film girl talk I'm like yeah I did like do you want an episode like I crash out like I just get irritated right away because it's like just mind your business like get out but when I was little I was like yeah I did like it was so much fun like I loved it so I really feel like I handled it worse I did not care about how I looked on camera at all like I would wake up like film like I just did not care Yeah, hey comments like oh, she looks ugly. I think Carol's like all right and right now. I like I crash out I'm like what do you mean?

I look ugly. I'm cute like I like start like getting so worked up right like commenting like Exactly like Brooklyn situation you're handling your whole hate thing so well Oh, well, I would be bawling my eyes out on the internet Crashing out so badly no I get one comment, and I'm like what It's so hard because like you want to practice what you preach, right? So when I say like oh who cares what the comments are saying when I get one comment and it's like Sarah look ugly I'm like damn it Sarah looks ugly. I Get upset like what do I do next? I'm not ugly like that That's what people don't realize about like people in the industry like acting Influencing singing whatever like no matter what you're saying and no matter how long they've been in it actually does like all Right, yeah, we're all human at the end of the day.

I think the other thing is like you never know know where someone actually is mentally like with or without this kind of stuff like just normal day-to-day life things like people can really be struggling so it's like then to add that on top of it like you can really set someone off to doing something that you would never want to see happen to anybody like ever like mental health is such like an interesting concept to me because I feel like whenever somebody mentally struggles like it's not like one certain thing triggers it it's like a bunch of different things over a period of time then hit you like all at once and then you're just tired like that's how I always explain it when I'm having having a hard time with mental health is that I'm just tired. Not sleep-wise, but genuinely, I just don't want to be thinking anymore. I feel drained, too. I have too many thoughts.

I'm over it. But I do want to say mental health for a normal person is so important. Important.

I know someone like my brother, mental health. When I tell you, it's not because of comments. It's just because you grow up, you go through stuff.

Everybody deals with it, and I'm positive that all of us have. It's like something. some certain thing that like triggers us and can put us somewhere mentally that like nobody you know wants to be what's something that like would be difficult maybe for you I think the older that you get the more you realize that like nobody else's opinions matter. And I feel like the only reason you'll ever think a certain way about something that you might feel insecure about is because maybe someone mentioned something. Or, like you said, the comments.

And I think the older that I've gotten, the more that I realize that the only validation that I need is from myself. And so it has been easier to deal with just, you know, loving every single aspect of myself, even the imperfect things. Right. Again, like I said, we're all here.

human right so to be honest I don't necessarily have like a single thing that like I struggle with at the moment I mean like okay everyday things like sometimes I'll be like oh why do my eyebrows look like that or like yeah like why why did I wake up like so puffy or something like that yeah but I don't sit there and and just kind of like ruminate and I just I let it go I'm like okay this is just today I want to wake up and just think about why am I so puffy you You know like when you don't get like a role or something like that like I know a lot of people have talked about it feels like rejection in like a certain sense and you start to like criticize yourself have you had that happen? Like I said I have such a strong support system of just friends and family that are here with me through it all. through the ups and the downs, but rejection, it sucks. It's awful.

But I think that's something that you have to be aware of when you come into an industry like this. There's going to be a million no's before you get that one yes. That's like the other thing about it is like it takes so much time to... finally get to like what you've been looking for obviously it like doesn't happen just like right away either and like that process can be so hard that's why i'm so grateful for everything that i have that in the moments where even i am feeling a little down like oh i haven't heard back from this yet or like where's my call about this i i just have to humble myself i'm just grateful for for what i have um and yeah that i think with when it comes to rejection i just gotta just gotta nip it on the butt you can't be too sad you can't You can't sit in your sadness. Yeah.

What about, like, with moving? Has that been, like, a hard process? Because, like, I know people when they move, like, they're so, like, stressed out. It's just, like, everything's on 10 and it's just too much.

Yeah, I'm moving, so let me hear your thoughts. I had a situation, I had a roommate, it was kind of crazy. And I don't know, I just really needed to be home.

The moving process was a little scary and difficult because it was my first time moving on my own, like packing everything up on myself. I'm with my mom now and I haven't lived with her like full time in five years. So did you move back in with your mom or did you get your own place?

I have my own house. Oh nice. And so my mom lives in my house.

Oh your mom's living with you? Yeah yeah yeah. Aww I love that.

Oh my mommy. Oh my god it's so cute. I love the best thing ever.

She's my best friend. That's so real. My mom's my best friend, too. Yeah, my mom's my best friend. It's been so nice finally being back and feeling like my home is, because I've had my home for three years now, but I haven't been able to fully decorate it the way that I want to.

Make it your home. Make it my own and feel like, oh, wait, this is home because I've been in L.A. So it's been really nice to just kind of chill with her and get used to each other again fully. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, like living with your mom again. Yeah. It's almost like as if I went to college or something.

Right. And then I'm coming back home. You're moving back in.

I'm moving back in. So it's been nice. I love my mom and she's the best. She's like my rock star.

She's still raising you. So cute. I know, she's still raising me and I love that.

And I hope that that continues to happen because obviously, I mean, she's still growing too. Like I think about it all the time. Like our parents are still. First time living too. This is their first time living.

It's so crazy. It's creepy when you think about it. No, I know.

No way. Sometimes I feel like I'm raising her too like when I teach her about TikTok trends and stuff. Yeah, like keep her updated.

Yeah, I have to. You gotta keep her up to date with the trends. Has she ever, have you ever gotten a role and she's like maybe like don't? Um, I mean, yeah, she she has her opinions about everything that I've done so far. She's she's fine with but like I tell her everything so anytime I get an audition, I'm like, what do you think about this?

She'll give me her honest opinion she'll be like i don't know about that and then i'm probably gonna be like all right i see your point yeah um mom validation is like really important it is it is her opinion matters the most to me and obviously we don't agree on everything but for the most part she's always right about everything that no like seriously why are moms always right but she is always right about every single thing so even if i don't see it in the moment i always think in the future i'm like i don't want to be wrong i don't want to like i don't want her to be right and then i'm wrong especially with people like my mom like always literally knows with people she'll be like something's gonna happen there and i'm like you're like stop yeah and then like something like they screw me over and i'm like damn it like Just like are you serious? Yeah four months later like I should have just listened. I should have just listened. The mom intuition is crazy It's crazy Yeah I always talk about like I feel like my mom almost has like powers in like a certain sense because I'm just like always confused I'm like what's going on my mom like I really think that my family psychic like I genuinely believe this like me my mom She thinks she's psychic too. I am Bro I'm telling you.

I'm dead Like me and my mom like just get feelings about things like it's actually just like a whole feeling like I don't know how to explain it It's just like a whole feeling comes over you and it's always right. It's always right and it could be about other people It could be about situations like anything and my mom will come in my room be like I got this feeling about you this morning. Like is it right?

Like I didn't even know like I was asleep. How did you even figure that out while I'm sleeping? Like I genuinely if she's psychic or it's just like I don't know you're intertwined cuz like it's your mom or something like that But like genuinely I get like freaked out like for you. Yeah.

Oh, yeah Have you dealt with, like, any crazy moms or anything like that? I mean, probably not as much. Well, I mean, I grew up as a dancer.

So, actually, yes. Dance moms are a thing. Is that what you started?

Yeah, I started off dancing. I started dancing when I was five years old. And I did competitive dancing from the ages of, like, I want to say eight to 13, I think, maybe. And moms are crazy. They're crazy.

They ride for their daughters, which is fine. Oh, my God. It makes sense. Which you're supposed to.

But, like, don't treat me no type of way. Right. Oh, it was crazy times back then.

Like I was a child and these moms, you could hear them like talking bad about little girls. I'm like, what are you doing? Oh my God, my daughter didn't get a solo and this one did, she can't even dance. Excuse me.

It's like clearly she can. Yeah. That industry is like extremely rough and especially with like body dysmorphia Yeah is like crazy and like a lot of rejection like dance teachers and like personal relationships Like I don't I don't understand like you're very strong for being a dancer but did you, like, struggle and face those things too? The whole favoritism just in general, like, I feel like that happens in a majority of studios that, from what I've heard, like, I have other dancer friends that I've...

Because they, like, praise the better dancers. Yeah, yeah, it's weird. It's a strange... thing to be a part of especially at such a young age where you so so blatantly know like this person is the favorite you know it makes you feel less than right so you feel like I'm damn I'm not good enough to even be here what am I doing here and again I'm like eight years old you shouldn't be feeling like that no they're like you going cuz you just like one to have fun and like yeah exactly exactly and i mean i it really depends like some some dancers go there to have fun some dancers go there because like they want to do this for their career at least they think so yeah um and it's it's weird it's a weird thing thing to be a part of and like body dysmorphia is such a big thing like I feel like when I was younger I didn't think too much about that stuff but I did see like my older fellow dancers like looking at themselves in the mirror and being like oh I need to like lose some weight or something and they look perfect yeah and these are like people that I idolized when I was younger so I'm like wow I can't believe they're looking at themselves and saying these things I feel like people don't realize too like I guess I'm not like I don't know like the dance industry like that but I feel like with social media in general with the amount of like body dysmorphia like everyone i feel like universally has something obvious something about you like you don't like right yeah unless you love yourself to a t right but like i feel like a lot of people like don't realize how much like body dysmorphia goes on even with the people who are like perfectly ripped like yeah still feel a certain type of way i think that's so well i think it's like with social media no matter what there's gonna be body dysmorphia because people watching are gonna get body dysmorphia from who they're watching and then people who are posting are gonna get body dysmorphia you know from people who are hard on them themselves and like all just different kinds of things like do you do you do like social media like would you like say like you're pretty involved in social media I would say like I'm I'm starting to be I'm trying to be I don't know I would I've never been the biggest fan of social media because of that fact right people get so invested in it and social media can be such a beautiful thing it could be a place for you to learn or to hear things like this where you guys are able to talk and like have honest conversations show your personality yeah but then there is the negative dark side of social media where you get so involved in these comments or watching these videos and feeling like you need to it's like a rabbit hole yeah yeah it's it's really scary so I would always it'd be okay I'm gonna post on Instagram and then that's it I'm not posting for like two months I'm good I'm fine yeah she did her post yeah no no but then like TikTok came out around the pandemic and so I'm I'm over here scrolling and scrolling and scrolling away and so I started making my own little tiki talks you um I mean but I just do it for fun you know I try not to to put too much pressure into stuff like that because I don't want to be so deeply involved.

Yeah. Personally for me like I love influencing and I think like there's there's really bad parts of it but also like being an influencer is influencing someone so like speaking what you think is right and that you want to bring to people to learn and for them like to know from you is like so important. I think period yes like look up to you and like are inspired by you and admire you and it's like so letting them know how you feel about situations is so important sometimes I mean social media is a job guys like I I didn't I mean obviously I knew that it was a lot of work like Like, I have a lot of friends that are simply social media influencers. It's so hard. I've only just started recently, like, understanding, okay, this is the process.

Right. Like, talking with media teams and, like, seeing the rundown of how things go. I'm like, this is a full-time job.

I don't know if I want to do all of this. But I feel like we've gotten to a point where it's just, like, normal. Like, it's our life now.

It's our life. It's like, it's in our daily routine. Yeah, it's just day to day. So, it's not, you know, it's not that.

It doesn't feel hard because it's, like, what we have to do. do when i'm like one of the worst influencers like i suck at posting on no like i'm a horrible doesn't post at all like because i feel like oh i just but she'll post on her spam all the time like girl i'm crying i'd much rather just like hang out with my friends and like have fun instead of posting a tiktok okay i get that i don't care to do that i've realized to balance it though like i'll get my tiktok done i'll be like yo do you like want to hang out do a tiktok and then like i'll go back to the hangout you know what i mean like i found a way to like balance it yeah because like i would literally go to every hangout i'd be like on my phone phone like trying to post and like that was just too much yeah so then i like came up with a little bit of a balance and like sometimes my friends are like really i got a tiktok right now i'm like yeah like come on like let's go to talk real quick and then like go back to the hangout but i don't know i feel like if you can find a way to balance it what kind of tiktoks do you mainly post you do like thirst trap dancing talking there's like genres of tiktok brooklyn does thirst trap i do yes i do thirst traps yes hair you're like my girl got diamonds on her I never did that TikTok. No, but you do like their straps. It's like you looking like bad and you're like, hey.

So, so far being on TikTok, have you dealt with any like comments or? No, she gets all good comments. I can tell.

She's just a baddie. Like, she doesn't get herself into nothing. I mean, I will, again, I try not to look at the comments. I will say, like, I, I don't know. I haven't seen, like, any crazy comments.

Like, if they are crazy comments, it's like an 80-year-old man. Why are you on TikTok? Get off of TikTok.

Dude, I've been clicking on, like, the old guys, and it's like them, like, we're going fishing today. I mean, that's good. Like, not looking at the comments definitely solves the solution. Like, don't even know what they're saying. Like, out of sight, out of mind.

Yeah, I can't. I would like the same. Like I never was in my comments like I really just didn't care until I like did started doing girl talk like then I started Reading comments because I wanted to know like feedback obviously like it's just more like trying to see like reviews and that but before then I didn't You said it if you're a fan if you watch my if you're a hater and you still watch me your fan your fan Yeah, you're a fan. If you don't have haters, you're not popping. It's bad for you when people aren't talking about you Yeah, right like if they're not if you're talking about people are gonna hate no matter Yeah, but like if they weren't talking about us then then we'd be so irrelevant.

Like, it'd be-You're irrelevant and everyone's large. Which is not a bad thing to be irrelevant because honestly, sometimes being irrelevant is peace of mind, honestly. Like, just-I don't never want to be irrelevant.

Oh, okay. Right. Because you walk all the way to the one you want to be in.

You see her shirt? Yeah, I hate being dramatic. I love being dramatic.

What's something you've been like doing recently like to help yourself with like your mental health obviously with all the hate comments? Like what's something everybody does? Cussing my phone out. Like that makes you feel better?

No, literally. If I see like someone making a video about me or anything like on TikTok because that's all I've been seeing is like people making like, Brooke, you're pissing me off. And I paused the video and I'm like, you piss me off.

So I literally watched her pull out of her phone and she was like, I will beat y'all up. I'm like, come on, Sy, don't play with me. And I was like.

No, seriously, because that's what people don't know. Like I'm a real person. I literally, if I see the person, like if I see a video of somebody about me and I see you in person, I'm going to slap the out of you.

I don't care. Okay, so have you ever tried like breathing in? Ever. Breathing out.

I'm not even playing around. I'm being so serious. Breathing it out.

Yes. Let's all do it, ready? I'm not irritated.

Breathing in. It's not working, I'm still pissed. I hate all of you guys. Yeah, let it out.

out let it out let it go with your breath like imagine you letting it go you should start doing yoga i'm serious it's not working she's ready to fight more now that just calmed me down to get ready to fight oh my god no but put it on the boxing on a serious note not like you know like the getting mad and stuff like that how i handle it is i just think about where i want to be in life do i want to be a person who just argues with people all the time because they say something about me or or they feel like i'm a certain way like Like, do I want to be like that or do I just want to be peaceful? So then it's like I have two sides to me. I don't know which side I want to be.

Right. There's two sides. I want to do both, though.

Like, I want to slap the s*** out of you, but then I just want to be like, oh, it's okay. Like, I just slapped you. We're fine. Right.

I just slapped you. We're fine, too. There's no beef.

Like, we don't even need to talk about each other or to each other ever again. Yeah. Just let me slap you first. Right. Right.

Right, right. That's how I feel. No, yeah.

I think the second part is maturity. Yeah. That's what I think.

Peace is maturity. I think peace is maturity. I agree. Protecting your peace is maturity.

I also think it's mature, though, to just go about it and slap the s***. That's mature, too. I mean, I don't really know where it's mature. I'm a violent person and it's bad. Wait, wait.

I need counseling. I need therapy. We need to send you to anger therapy management. How do you handle when you're in a mentally bad spot? Like, what do you do to help yourself?

I journal a lot when I'm not doing well. And I make a lot of videos just talking to myself. I don't post them.

I don't keep them. I just will record myself. I'll cry in the video.

just so it feels like I'm like no one's judging me like it's my camera you know so I'll do that or I hang out with my brother a lot my brother is my everything love him so bad and my animals like really just being content with myself and what I have personally like not what my friends have going on or and yes I do like I'll hang out with my friends a lot but sometimes it's like You know, they all go through phases, they're all doing their own thing, so I just have to like remember like, I need to be okay with what I'll for sure have in my life. At the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I think that just comes with being open with yourself, like talking to yourself.

a video or even in the mirror or like journaling and just listen to music the music that you listen to like really can affect your mood like if you're listening to sad music like and i was having a good day i'll get sad yes that's just how it is but if i'm listening to hype music oh no no no if i'm crying and like my favorite song plays and we're like oh okay what about you sophie how do you handle it um i want to say i do a lot of like writing too i feel like that definitely helps just to like get it out um i feel like if you write get it out of your system and then like it's gone right you don't have to reread it doesn't have to be I don't know, like I just I think being surrounded by my friends really helps because like if I'm having such like a bad day I'll call one of them and I'll be like yo what are you doing? It's like nothing like let's go hang out like alright bet like I feel like mm-hmm a person where if I'm having a bad day not that I'll bring that energy to the hangout but if I'm with my friends and they're like all hype I'm like I'm hype I don't know I think that really helps like having exactly what you said like positive people around you good energy yeah and spontaneous things I always like going on like random little things like that always just makes me yes or i'll go on walks on just have headphones on and just right like you're in a movie like yeah start singing that little sidewalk no no serious literally yes right yes yeah literally yes what about you i i mean i think i just i let myself like feel all of my feelings like i don't like hold anything in i if i need to take a nap i'll take a nap yeah um also that notes app on my phone yeah yeah do you lock your notes do it Oh, yes. Okay.

Of course. Wait, I didn't know that was a thing. What? Yeah, you can make it like face ID or password. Wait, what?

It's a little diary. Aw. Sophie, what are you writing in your nose? Sophie. That's another thing, like with mental health, like I feel like actually guys affect a lot of it and people don't, like, I don't even think guys realize that either.

Like when like you like another girl, you know what I mean? And you were like my boyfriend or something like that, like it takes a toll on me. because then I'm like, whoa. Why was I high enough?

Like, why was I high enough in certain ways? Would you say when, like, your time was the worst, it was because of men? No. That's good. I actually don't think so.

I don't think that ever. Do I think that it had an effect on it? Yeah, for sure.

But I think that overall, like, when I've mentally been the worst, it's just, like, a bunch of things. And I feel like for myself, I'll never let it be a man is why I'm, like, really struggling. Because, like, they come and they go. Like, it's the same with anything. The only thing you have.

the end of the day is like actually yourself yeah so just like as long as you like if you like yourself it'll be good right like that's where you have to get for mental health like no matter where you are is like just liking yourself because everybody's gonna come and go well if you don't like yourself how you're like how is somebody gonna like you like rupaul said if you can't love yourself how the hell you're gonna love anyone else can i get an amen that's facts that is facts but like you're at a point where you're like happy with everything and like you know chilling like a villain you're not always going to feel a hundred yeah but you don't always have to feel hundred like right just it is what it is um it's gonna be what it's gonna be but yeah i think i at this point in my life i can positively say that i'm happy with who i am as a person and that's what is so important and like you said we only have each other at the end of the day like we only have ourselves at the end of the day right so i'm not worried i know that i i love myself i love the person that i what's meant to come will come exactly i also think that what has helped me with this as well is um i have nieces and nephews and when my sisters had kids i think my whole perspective changed like any negative thoughts i would say on myself like i would like look at like my nieces and nephews and think about them to say that exactly i would think about them growing up and like saying things that i was saying to myself yeah which is weird but it was because i would think of myself as a kid and like i kind of see myself in them in a way yeah and so that helped me so much I don't even know what clicked like I wish I could just like I can explain but literally looking at them and knowing that they exist and knowing that I can like call them every day and just imagining them saying the crazy things I was probably saying to myself at the time I would never want that like yeah it just kind of it turned me off I was like I'm not why am I doing this to myself that's so weird oh yeah that makes sense that's so weird so I don't know something just clicked and yeah and those comments I feel like are not gonna affect your life like they're gonna leave that comment and like obviously it can affect your mental but like in a gun life like yes yeah but I'm saying like in real life like how that person's not standing in front of you they don't know anything about you yeah it shouldn't like affect your life at all like you have your family your nieces you know what I mean like you don't what are you gonna do you're some random stranger who doesn't know me yeah is there any roles that you've had that you think has like grown you as a person or maybe like made you look at like the world differently or you you brought like a new aspect to your own personality I mean probably my first like bigger role when I was a series regular on the Victor I I was on that show for three years so I grew a lot in that time yeah I started it when I was like 15 or 16 or something like that like that's just such a prime age of Growth. Growth. And so I learned so much from the people that I was working with as well.

Most of them were a little bit older than me. So I got so much good advice and learned so much about myself and acting in general. And that character, Pilar, she was a very angsty teen, rebellious, slamming doors in the house, which I would never do because my mom would kill me.

But it was interesting playing somebody so completely different from me. Yeah. And I learned a lot through her. I learned how to, I mean, I feel like she loved herself. And so that kind of helped me in a way grow within myself as a person.

Right. So yeah, probably that show. Yeah, I think that's such a cool part of acting is you are playing someone different and it's like you of course can bring yourself to that character But overall like how they think and how they're gonna handle Situations would be different from like what you do and I feel like you actually can learn a lot from characters that you're just playing Yeah, cuz it's like it's so different like when you look at a scenario, right?

And if I was in that scenario, I would do this this and that but it's like my character might do something completely different And and they might kind of be right almost Yeah, so I think it is actually so like fascinating with acting like how much you can learn from it and like movies in general like I think movies are great I think they're amazing and I think you're an amazing actress yeah do you think that we're like a crazy group of girls like you guys are in are you scared first okay I'm each of us in one word okay firecracker your cracker my sister so it's it's firecracker Sarah I would say Sunshine like you radiate like this really which by the way you also radiate. Well, yeah, it's a firecracker Yes sunshine, I don't know if it's cuz you're wearing yellow right now, right? I might be the yellow in the town always managed to make me crack up and that it's just giving happiness You you're like you give me serenity like yeah, please You know your own person period Okay, day's made.

Thank you. And you, you're very sweet. Aw, you're very sweet.

Thank you. Yeah. Being close with all these girls, I'd actually agree with what you said about them. Really?

Yeah. I did good. Yes, I would agree with the sunshine.

Fine, no one thinks I'm sunshine. No, like a tornado. I would say loyal or honest as yours.

Honest. That's sweet. No, Sarah's just so funny. Like you're just, literally, I can look at you and just laugh at you.

Okay, there's like. It's like happy. Yeah, happy.

Like, you're funny, but then it's like. And she said that. She was like, you make me laugh.

Yeah, that's what she said. She was like, it's sunshine. That's why you laugh. Okay, listen.

The thing you also. Well, of course she said that because you didn't show her the bad side. The attitude. Because you have to be professional. The cussing the people out.

The, you know. Because we're not doing all that today. I've seen the episodes. I've seen how you guys get down.

What do we want to outro with? We put our hands in the middle. Sunshine.

No, mental health. Mental health matters. Mental health matters, yeah.

We put our hands in the middle. On three we say it, okay? Okay, so on three. One, two, three. Mental health matters!

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Almost popular. Almost popular! Almost popular. 2020 soon. Yes!

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Navigating Public Persona and Personal Growth