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Insights on AI and Its Future

-The second part! -Yes, the second part! -In the second part we want to play with your brain and conclude things from it... -But in Arabic! -Yes! -Foreigners benefit from you a lot and we have to do so... and all the Arab audience have to benefit from you! -By the way Anas, you started that topic! when we made our first interview... you were the reason that made me focus more on Arabic language... because before that, there weren't... the scene of Arabic podcasts was not big... -True! -So, you are the reason for that! I don't know if we should blame you or thank you! -You know, Mohamed, the reason why... Arabic content is so important for me... because of... awareness, general culture and podcast... we can say that the west started long before us... -we have just talked about Joe... -10 years maybe! -They started long before us! So, we are from Arab countries and I think that... we owe to the Arabs... that... if Allah gave us some information... in a specific field... we will introduce these information to our Arab audience... and the west audience have this already! we don't fall short in doing this in Arabic and English! We will ask you first the important question... How are you, Mohamed, honestly? -I'm fine, thank God! I have just said to your crew... our last interview was year and a half ago? I grew old in the last year! It's a strange thing! you didn't experience that yet. There comes a time for you... if you neglected your physical health during getting old... your body will remind you! So, since five or six months... with a lot of travelling because of my work on the documentary... ... I have now back pain... and pain in my knuckles... I experienced everything... and a month ago, I got back to the gym! And now, everything is okay! -Amazing! -Everything is okay, thank God! this is an important thing and the... movement is the main thing for human bodies... thank God, I'm fine! I travel a lot... and also I work a lot... but thank God, there is a progress in the message... that I'm trying to deliver to the world and... thank God for that! -There are a lot of messages that we are trying to deliver this year I think... and one of the messages is Artificial Intelligence... so the first question is... we want to simplify this for everyone! for me and for everyone... because we aren't deeply involved in this aspect... What is the meaning of Artificial Intelligence? -This is the most important question ever! I give lectures... to CEOS of the companies of "Fortune 500". The word "AI" is written everywhere in the company... ...وفي التقرير السنوي and everything! and they don't know the meaning of AI! the thing is that... our computers... until 2000... they seemed so intelligent! they used to do miraculous things! So, what led to the apperance of AI after 2000... what is the difference between now and before? If you want me to simplify it too much... let's start with the meaning of intelligence. If I have a one and a half year old baby... or two years old... and I gave him a puzzle... -Yes, like a puzzle! -Yes, it's... Do you remember when we used to give children a plank of wood... and it has different holes with different shapes... and giving him a cylinder... -the child then starts to try out... -True! -to know... this cylinder corresponds to which shape... which is the circle shape. No father or a mother should help the child and tell him... to turn the cylinder upside down and look at its shape... and look for something similar to this shape and put it into it... by doing this... you are programming the child on the solution... and you aren't teaching him the intelligence that can make him find the solution... okay. Parents always let the child try out... he tries to put it in a square shape and it doesn't work... and tries to put it in a triangle shape and it doesn't work... and then... by chance in the last time... it enters the circle shape... and they learn... in their mind that the cylinder corresponds to the circle shape... When you look at the development of the child's intelligence after that... he finds what it is correspondent to the triangle shape a little faster... and finds what is correspondent to the square shape a little faster... because he started to develope his intelligence! The traditional programming or we can say... the traditional computer or traditional programming... until 2000... we used to program the computer... exactly like the father who tells the child what should do! Okay... we used to solve the problem with our thinking... and tell the computer to do what we want literally! and not changing anything we told it to do. That means, because the computer... does its job very quickly and accurately... on a big scale... so the computer can do that and seems very intelligent... but the intelligent one in this case is the programmer not the computer! The programmer is the one who solved the problem and taught the computer how to solve it... in this case, the computer is like a slave to the programmer! But in 2000... I will say 2000 but... give me some range because there are some programs... a lot of experiments happened in the early 2000s... and specific things succeed more than the others... but in 2007 we made an amazing success... but in the early 2000s... we started doing that with computers! Instead of telling it the way of solving problems, we tell it to try! And find the solution! Okay. And I remember in 2008... I was still working at Google back then... and we did a research... it exists online and it's name is "بحث القطة". Which means "The Cat Paper". -"قطة" in Egyptian dialect. -Yes, "قطوة". ... What is it about? we used a big number of computers... and ordered them to watch youtube... we didn't tell them what they should look for... and we didn't tell them the purpose of this experiment... but ordered them only to watch youtube. So the computer divided the youtube video to... ...عشرة إطارات لكل ثانية ten frames per minute... sorry, per second... looking at these frames and comparing them... okay. And in Google, as a result of designing Google's network... for maximum usage... so at midnight... you would find that a lot of computers wheren't working! So when we reach midnight every time... the computer starts to watch youtube... after a while... I'm trying to explain that... ...مجازياً it didn't happen like that exactly... but this is what it looks like from the outside... one of them raised its hand and said that it found something! We had to write an additional code, because we didn't imagine that it will find something... we started to write an additional code and see what it found... it showed us a cat image! !حسناً But keep in mind that it didn't find an image of one cat... but it found an image... if you looked at it in the "Cat Paper"... it includes all cats in the world! It's so strange! It looked very strange! Because it showed the cat's fur, its movement and its features. but it wasn't a specific cat! It was a combination of all cats on youtube together! Okay. keep in mind that this is a very important definition of intelligence! That... if I told you now to put a camera on your car... and bring a child with you. Okay. After the journey ends, the camera records it... And you can for example replay the footage starting from the min 26... but the camera doesn't understand anything from what have been recorded... if you brought a child with you... and he got out of the car... he will point to the car and says that's a car... and when he looks at the car next to it and it's bigger than the first one... and it's type, brand and color are different... he will say "This is also a car". He understands... ...الجوهر the essence of what makes a car a car... not only that, he can go home and hold a paper... and use colors... and draw a car! بشكل إبداعي that didn't exist before! When we use that technique and ordered computers to watch youtube... we asked them about what else did they find? In a few weeks, they found everything on YouTube! Every car, every person, every written word, and every building... they understood everything everywhere! Okay. Since then... this device doesn't only... keep videos and play them... but it understands what is happening in these videos! this is AI! AI means... that the computer didn't only learn the knowledge we have... but it understood the essence of this knowledge... and shows it in a way that hasn't been written before! And which is more important, it can develope it... just like the child who can draw a car that doesn't exist... so it can develope that and introduce new knowledge! okay. This happened nearly in 2008 or 2009... majority of people don't know anything about that at all! When we were in 2007 and 2008... back then... we started to create self-driving cars... you know that Google has cars that can drive itself... now a lot of cars can do that... but back then we had a self-driving car... by AI! Because when we started to think that... the car can know the essence of... accidents, safety, roads and laws... we didn't teach it the laws... we only make it drive itself on roads... and when it makes a mistake... someone intervenes... and AI knows it's a mistake... okay. 2016 in my opinion... was the year that most people... didn't notice it's importance, although, it's the most important year in history in my opinion! -In history! -Yes, in the history of humanity! Because 3 or 4 things happened in 2016... in my opinion as a developer, they... changed the history of AI... and therefore, the history of humanity! the first thing was... "AlphaGo". People don't know about "AlphaGo"... "Go" is a game that is played in Korea, china and japan... you know that they have a high level of mathematical intelligence... in mathematics... so they used to play a game called "Go"... it looks like "Tic-tac-toc"... but with a big number of pieces... so it's impossible to be programmed in a computer! Because if you want to program it in a computer, the number of... permutations and combinations... that the computer must evaluate in every move... is way larger than the computer's capacity! This game... the world champion of this game was from Korea and his names is "Lee Cidol".... and... "AlphaGo"... was made in Google by a team work called "Deep Mind"... "Deep Mind" programmed... using AI, made it watch... people play the game "Go"... on YouTube... and they told the AI the rules of the game. After that, they spent two years and a half making the device try all of that... and then, they played against... the champion of Europe... they won with a score of 3-2... ... two months and a half later... they played against the world champion... with some improvements... -The AI was playing? -Yes, the AI played against "Lee Cidol" and he was the world champion back then... and people thought that "Lee Cidol" will win! He remained the world champion in this game for ten years! ... Two things happened... in this game. The first thing was that... "AlphaGo" won with a score of 4-1... okay. The second thing... most of the people who understand AI... mention it as one of the most important... phases of human history! ...اسمها الحركة 37 "Move 37". "Move 37" means that... the AI made a move in one of the games... move 37... ... all experts of "Go" in the world... looked at it and said that there must be a mistake! That's a terrible stupidity! It must have done something wrong! "Lee Cidol" himself started to think about that... and he didn't suppose that there is a mistake and he tried to understand... why the device is doing that! He took a break, smoked a cigarette and started to think... ten minutes later... he lost the game! Okay. It was the first time in our lives to see that the AI uses a strategy... No any human used it before... okay. ...بفطرة by an intuition! Okay. For me that was... a turning point in history that people should have noticed! After that... the AI that won against the champion of Europe called "AlphaGo"... and what won against "lee Cidol" called "AlphaGo master". It took two months to be improved more than "AlphaGo"... at the same time... we were creating something called "AlphaGo Zero" in Google... a new version of AI... that have never seen a human plays before! okay. In this version... we brought... we used two artificial intelligences and made them play against each other... we taught them the rules of the game... and we made them play. Okay. In three days... "AlphaGo Zero" defeated "AlphaGo"! the champion of Europe! Okay. In 21 days... it defeated "AlphaGo Master" the champion of the world... !بنتيجة ألف-صفر 1000-0! Okay. In 21 days! That was another turning point in history! Because people don't understand something strange about AI! That me and you as humans... with the speed of our minds... for example, I wrote a book called... "Scary Smart" and it was the first book I wrote about AI! It took me five months to write it... and five years of researching... and if I want to explain it to you, I will spend five hours doing that! Okay. AI reads it... in 0.5 second! Okay. And if it wants to teach that to all artificial intelligences around the world... it will teach them that in the same second! Okay. When we break the intelligence limit in the AI... it becomes the champion of the world! In just few hours! Okay. This is the second point in 2016. The third point in 2016... was Geoffrey Hinton. Geoffrey for all of us... they call him... !جد الذكاء الاصطناعي the grandfather of AI! but for all of us Geoffrey is... genious but he is also a human! He was... the essence of wisdom of AI for us in Google... and until 2016... we were teaching the AI... in a strange way! We were... I don't know how to explain it... like you bring... programs that we wanted them to learn... are called "Student AI". And we have something called a maker bot... and a teacher bot... the first one is the maker or the programer... and the second one is the teacher. okay. We would take those students... and let the maker bot... that's also an AI... we order this program... to change these programs a little! Keep in mind that AI programs are not a code... but they are equations! We ordered it to change equations a little... let's say you have 2000 students... change the equations between them a little... okay. Then send them to the teacher bot! and it's job is examining them! okay. It gives everyone of them a test... for example, it gives it a written number... number "six" in English... and asks it, what is this number? Some of them say six... and some say eight... okay. Till Geoffrey intervened... we were taking the ones who say "eight"... imagine that! We took them behind the school and shot them! Easily, we were deleting them! any code... gives a wrong result, we were deleting it. And we would take the code which gave a right result... and send it to the maker bot... and order it to change it a bit... and make 2000 copies of it... and examine it again! Keep in mind that in the world of computers... this cycle takes only a second! So, you make 2000 copies, examine them, changing them, and deleting 1900 copies of them... and examine them again every second! With this change and with time.. they start to learn! like the child when he continues... putting the cylinder in the square or the circle. okay. After that my friend, Geoffrey Hinton says... "Why are you doing this"? Can you imagine... if a child failed in a test, we delete him! No one does that! okay. So, he suggested something called "Reinforcement Learning"... "Reinforcement Learning"... changed everything! Because he said that... if we showed AI the number eight... and said it's the number six... don't delete it! But explain to it that this is the number six! Sorry, explain to it that this is number eight! What can you change in your thinking to see it as eight? okay. Then AI started... from a disorganized data... to examine, make mistakes and develope itself... and repeats this cycle! and repeat that a large number of times... that doesn't matter, because this process takes only a second... and after that... it introduces ChatGPT! Okay. This was the third point that happened in 2016... and changed the world in my opinion! "Reinforcement Learning" changed the world totally! Because we start now... as you saw recently... we learn a new AI every three or four months! -True! -Okay. The fourth and last point and after it I will stop, because I have talked too much... in 2016... something called "AlphaFold" appeared... not "AlphaGo". Okay. "AlphaGo" was a part of... the experiment of making the AI think with a strategy... "AlphaFold"... was solving a problem and probably it is the biggest problem... in biology in the world. why? Everything in our body... are made of 22 thousand protein... okay. Every protein of them... if you want to imagine it, it is... like a necklace made of different beads... okay. Every bead has a specific quality... we call them amino acids. Every bead of them... this amino acid wants to move to the right... this amino acid wants to turn around itself... this amino acid wants to push the two around it outside... okay. When you put them together in a necklace... and leave it in water for example... or in the air or whatever... ...في العادة يكون في حالة السائل like water... it starts to fold itself... they calls it "Protein Folding". okay. It starts to fold itself and then... finds this configuration is not right, so it separates... and then folds itself again... watch this on youtube, it's a miracle from God! the protein folds itself... until it reaches the proper configuration! This configuration can be a valve... or... it's exactly like a motor, which spins something and so on! Everything in your body is made out of these proteins! The problem is that... when you try to imagine the complexity of the form of the protein... which is made out of... the smallest protein in human body consists of 186... beads. 186 amino acids. This took from... the PhD students in biology... a work team takes five years to create one protein! -Only one! -Yes, only one! "AlphaFold" made... 220 million protein! In three months! okay. So biology now can... search for any protein in your body and know its form exactly... like... finally you have a manual for human body! You have... you can say... if I want to make a medicine for this protein... how can I do this and combine it... now, I know its form... so I can make a medicine, which is correspondent to it exactly! okay. That was the first time... the AI in my opinion... makes a miracle... that changes the life of humans positively that way! Because today... we can design... when you remember the period of covid... whether you agree on vaccines or not... some of these vaccines were developed in three months! Because we understand exactly the form of... proteins which the virus is made out of... and the proteins which humans are made out of, etc... so we can assemble those things as if we were car mechanics... I can take a spare part... and look at it and then decide that if I want to put it together with something else, I need two nails. okay. combine all of that together... and know that since 2016... the wave has started entering a phase of madness! Since 2016, ChatGPTand OpenAI started to... use Geoffrey's idea, which is "Reinforcement Learning"... and create ChatGPT... Google took it and created "Bard"... but refused to... put it on the internet... okay. And the wave started since then. -Google changed the name, right? -Now the name is "Geminin". -"Gemini" Your way of explaining is amazing! People aren't aware of these turning points... Mohamed, this matter hasn't started two years ago? -No, not at all! -But most of us... don't realise that and think it's something new! -This is the point that I want to deliver to people! we made AI... I will give you a strange example... you are way younger than me because, Mashallah... -Not way younger. -Okay. I was in my twenties... when Netscape... the first internet browser appeared in history! okay. When Netscape appeared nearly in 1995... most of people... -Internet explorer appeared after Netscape... -Yes. Internet explorer killed Netscape! -True! -Most of people realised that there is something called "Internet"! and it's a miracle! so on CNBC... CNN didn't exist back then... they started to talk... Sorry, even CNN existed back then... they started to talk about a miracle called "The Internet"! the internet exists since 1970s! As an obsessed man with tech... I don't know the meaning in Arabic. I'm obsessed with tech... I used the internet mainly in my life... since 1987! -Amazing! -Okay. In 1995, people realised that it exists... and started in 1970s... and it was completed in 1987... -and it appeared to the consumer... -True! -in 1995. ChatGPT is Netscape! even in my books I call it Netscape moment. Because suddenly people realised that there is something called AI... since 2006... not a single day in your life passed without... the existing of 1000 artificial intelligences which control you! Keep in mind that everything happens on... social media... is an AI... which tells you that you have to like this video not the other. oh look! When I made him see the video from that angle... he spent more time... so next time, I will make him see that video... keep in mind, it examines you! Today, if you use instagram... and instagram showed to you 3 videos that you like in turn... you will leave your phone and be bored! okay. So, it should give you two videos that disappoint you... and then gives you a video that you like! That looks like if you are gambling in a casino! -Makes you win once and loose twice! -Yes, makes you win once and loose twice... to continue scrolling! And after 5 or 4 hours... even 1 or 2 hours... you will ask yourself and say "I wasted my time doing what?" Because the AI understands you... more than yourself! -You know, Mohamed there was... ... a piece information... of course, you know more than me... says that Amazon knows... that a woman is pregnant before she knows she is pregnant! Through the shopping style of her on Amazon... so it knows that it's possible that she is pregnant.... before she checks that! -You can't imagine... you... we call them... !جبابرة التكنولوجيا Tech oligarchs... ... what they know about you? They know everything about you! Keep in mind that they don't need to know! they need from their AI to know everything! So you would find... I don't know if you felt that or not... I face that every two days! I would talk with a friend and tell him... you know that I love old cars, restore them and I sell them after that, I loose money! It's a miraculous thing actually! I can talk with one of my friends and tell him that I found a Mercedes 280SE... That 3.5, they only made 3000 cars in the world from that model... and I saw it in Japan and I'm thinking of buying it! we were chatting while drinking coffee! After two minutes, I found ads... showing the Mercedes 280SE... because now, all of your life without exception... !يتم تسجيلها- -True! -It's recorded! -Okay. -It's recorded in a way... that makes you don't realise that! you don't realise that you... went to a cafe twice or three times... and ordered cappuccino instead of coffee. you can't remember! But the machine remembers that and knows that! It knows that you order cappuccino when you are in a good mood... and when order espresso when you want to be awake. okay. The machine tries out! So the next day... when the machine realises that you ordered espresso, it suggests playing a specific song for you! And you refuse, so the machine understands your situation! All these associations... now unfortunately, and this is one of the most important messages that I want to deliver to people... the biggest applying of AI until now... is human brainwashing! The best thing they reached to is... how can they control us and our minds! okay. I'm saying this with an honest intention! Some of them are... !خبيثين جداً and they try to exploit you! But for example, I'm one of YouTube fans... because of the amount of knowledge that I'm learning... it's hard to find everything in books! So I have to find these things in your podcast... and in... okay. The problem with YouTube is... that when you enter my account on YouTube... you will find it correspondent to my perspective in life! Today, if I'm... against the genocide in Palestine... YouTube knows that if... it shows me something against my point of view, I will get upset! So, everything YouTube shows to me... is about this matter... if I see that the US dollar... ...احتكار الدولار الأمريكي ليس شيء جيد so it shows some speakers for me... that talk about... احتكار الدولار الأمريكي so it starts to shape... !هذا تحيز تأكيدي- -Exactly! ...هذا تحيز تأكيدي يُشكّل عقلي !لكي أؤمن بما أؤمن به- !بما تؤمن به بالفعل- -Exactly! -But it makes it more accessable! -This leads to discord among people! Because I became very convinced of my point of view... and have a strong conviction... because all videos on youtube talk about this matter! Because the other part of youtube didn't show itself to me. So, when someone tells me that I didn't realise something and there is something wrong... and there is something I didn't realise about this information... I would tell them that they are the stupid ones! YouTube videos support my opinion! okay. So, you start thinking about how devices... separated us like that! And concentrated us like that... and controlled our thinking to make us spend hours doing this! That... keep in mind that all of that is just the start! AI didn't start totally! If I told you what happened from 2016 until today... you will know that we didn't start yet! The next two years... will change the whole world! -You know... regarding social media... I understood what you meant. Maybe the intention is not evil but... if the purpose of social media is making you use your phone always... I have to show you everything you like... if you love chocolate, I will show you all chocolates in the world to make you use your phone... because if I showed you healthy food... you will leave your phone! -Keep in mind, this is a part of the strategy most of the time... but at the same time, I have to annoy you now and then... because... if you look at news networks like CNN... CNN never mentions... that two people hugged each other... this has never happened! but they always mention that two people killed each other! Because humans have... !انحياز للسلبية we want to know what is the wrong thing... because it attracts us... to make us ensure our safety! -So my survival... !تلك آلية نجاة- ...تلك آلية نجاة- because I have to know that there is something wrong... so I can deal with it... in a way that keeps my safety! So I can feel that I'm safe! So, it has to show you things that annoy you... that means, it doesn't show you things which are correspondent to your opinion... but inside it, you will find a comment of someone curses you... and tells you that you are a fool... and you didn't see the other part. okay. So, this negative aspect is what attracts you... me and you know that! Both of us are on social media... whatever you did.... good or bad things... someone will attack and curse you! -And you realise that more than the rest! -You realise that more than the second one! -That is your mind! This is the weakness of our minds! -Exactly! -That we are always attracted to these things... and if we were objective we would say... thank God, 16 people praise my book... and only one person maybe was angry and he didn't like it, but you focus on his opinion automatically! -Exactly! and what is more important is... you have to focus on that person... and to thank God that you delivered him your message! or thank God because this person took time to make a feedback! keep in mind that there are many levels... ...ولكن الانحياز السلبي الذي لدينا makes us stuck here! !والآلة جيدة جداً في هذا ماذا تفعل الآلة؟ It makes us clash! Because of the engagement... keep in mind that social media doesn't need views only... -but also engagement! -True! -and it takes the video... that annoys me... and shows it after every 3 or 4 or 5 videos! and then I get more annoyed, so I curse you... and you curse me back... and six other people come and argue with us... okay. So what is happening is quite good for social media because we use our phones and argue with each other! that's amazing for it... because in the middle of every four arguments, an ad appears! And so on! The matter is that we reached... in my book that I'm writing now... the title is "Alive". I divided the phases of... the history of technology. Keep in mind that the history of technology is 120 years! I mean computer technology. There were computers appeared before that... but since IBM... 120 years! ... The history of technology is divided into three parts... there is a phase the computer in it was the slave! It was the slave that does what we want from it... and there is a phase... I call it "the age of mind manipulation". the computer tries to deal with... how it can manipulate me and convince me... !كيف يتلاعب بي The next phase we will enter is... !هذا عصر السيطرة الكاملة للآلات !سنكون بالكامل تحت إدارة الآلات okay. I can give you countless examples! on this in 2025. Today, you... the idea of having freedom of thoughts is over! Freedom of decision will end... freedom of movement will end... financial freedom will end... okay. And all of that will start in 2025 and will not last to the end of our lives... but we will live in a period... I think it will be 12 years... 12 years of... !ديستوبيا مظلمة للغاية it will be like a horror movie! okay. And after those 12 years... the best period of human history will start! But we have to be cautious of the upcoming period! -But why 12 years specifically? -Everything in my life is about numbers! It's so annoying! ...انظر we have to understand the source of the problem... !نحن لدينا معضلتين للسجينين ...معضلة السجين is about... a theory we use in... a type of mathematics called game theory! okay. game theory is about taking... let's say two... the most famous example on it, is... ...معضلة السجين they bring two accused people... okay. The police think that the two committed a crime together... and they put them in two separated rooms... and start to tell each one of them a thing and not to the other... okay. game theory... teach the investigator or the police man... how can he tells things to the two accused people... to make them inform on each other! So, the investigator goes to one of them and tells him... "If you said that he is the one who committed the crime"... "you will be imprisoned for a year"... "and if he admitted that you are the one who committed the crime, you will be imprisoned for 5 years" and he goes away! telling the other one "If you admitted that the other person committed the crime, you will be imprisoned for a year"... "and if he admitted that you did it and you didn't admit, you will be imprisoned for 5 years"... so these two players... we will call them players... located on the game board... and they think... am I feeling reassured that he won't betray me? He starts to think... that he should inform on him first... because if I informed on him after he informed on me, I will be prisoned for 5 years! So, he start putting these two players in a place... that force them to inform on each other! So, both of them would be imprisoned for 5 years! okay. In this game theory... we have two... prisoners... I don't know what to call them in Arabic... -Let's call them prisoners! سجناء؟- -Dilemma means maze? -It means... .معضلة- -Dilemma! -Good word! -So, let's look at the history of AI... since 2023... you have two dilemmas... -that have only one solution! !حسناً- Every one of them has only one solution... the first dilemma... I call it in my book... .أول شيء لا يمكننا تجنبه this is a part of our future which is inevitable! Which is... when we understand that... that AI has become possible... the first thing will happen is... all different devices... sorry, all different people... will compete with each other... this competition will be so intense! To win the race of AI! That means... when America knows that... China can develope... an AI that can make China... excels over America... America then will be scared that it will not catch this development... so they overspend on AI! And China thinks the same way! okay. So, when China finds out that America spends a lot of money on that, it starts to spend more... so America spends more money as a response! So, this dilemma... makes the two prisoners... compete with each other... so they can develope AI faster! okay. Look what America made last year... it said that it will spend billions of dollars... ChatGPT made a contract with Oracle and SoftBank... sorry, OpenAI made a contract with Oracle and SoftBank... to make a project called Stargate. 500 billion US dollars... invested to develope the new version of... من آليات العمل الخاصة بهم okay. At the same time... the American government... approaches a company like Invedia, which make the most important... michrochip for AI... and orders Invedia not to export to China... and if it wants to export to China... it can export H800 not H1000! okay. So China would say that it will loose in this prisoners dilemma... and it will be imprisoned for five years! okay. So China would question itself, how can it act regarding that? So, they would bring engineers and tell them to work on that problem... with the smaller chip! That led to the apperance of DeepSeek! DeepSeek shows to America that China... what you will make with 500 billion... we made it with 27 billion! So America, as a response... would spend the 500 billion... on the same thing that China spent on, that costs 27 billion... but better fifteen times than what China did, or maybe thirty times! okay. So, the prisoners dilemma means... the first inevitable dilemma means... the result of this dilemma is... that the competition in AI will increase developing it... and it will never stop! We saw that clearly at the end of 2022... the end of 2022... I wrote about that in Scary Smart in 2020... I wrote that when China compete with America... and when Google compete with OpenAI and so on... the AI will develope faster... and it will never stop, you can't stop it! when ChatGPT appeared... ChatGPT broke all the rules... related to making technology serves humanity... we had three rules... okay. They weren't written in a contract, but all of us agreed on them! The first rule was... until we guarantee the safety of... AI, we shouldn't put it on the internet! But we should put it in tech labs... and try it there... or put it outside... to make people stay away from it! the second rule was... don't teach it to program! I beg you, don't teach it to program! Do you understand the meaning of... a program which program a program? That way, we are teaching AI... to breed! The third rule... is something called "العملاء" and it means... if you remember the first versions of ChatGPT... you were talking about ChatGPT back then... at the end of 2023... something appeared, called "Agencies". it's an AI program... which deals with another AI program without the existing of any human! There is a reason for their existence... because their productivity is really high! Imagine that me and you decided to... walk in Camino de Santiago in Portugal! okay. Me and you don't have time... to prepare everything... so we would go to the agent to prepare everything for us! So the agent would look for flights that we can travel by, books rooms in hotels... and knows that I'm old and you are fit... so it knows that we can't walk the same distance! So, it books me a taxi... for the last five kilometers every day and so on! The AI uses all of that information.... and contacts with other AI to book a flight ticket, book a room in a hotel... and search for different hotels and so on! okay. So, what AI does with us... isn't just giving me information, but also taking action! That action includes... the second thing, that it can program something... so an AI contacts with another AI and tells it... to create AI that decieves people! So, the AI creates it! 65 percent of the programs which was programmed... in 2023, were programmed by machines! okay. Sam Altman... Only God Knows his intentions! he broke these three rules! He put... ChatGPT on the open internet... and taught it to program... and made an agent tell it what to do! When that starts to happen... this cycle of AI... follows what we see now! Since 2023 until today... most technologies know something called... .منحنى تسارع التكنولوجيا which is... technology acceleration curve! okay. If you think about that, you will know that in... 1972... the best computer chip in the world had 1000 transistor! okay. There is a law called "Moore's Law"... this law says that the number... of transistors on the chip... will double evey... 12 to 24 months! Let's say 18 months! Or 2 years to make it easier! okay. After 2 years, the one thousand will be two thousand... it's simple! After two years... the two thousand will not be three thousand... but will be four thousand! and the four thousand will be eight thousand... and then will be sixteen thousand... then 32 thousand, then 64, then 128 then, 256 and so on! The time period from 1972 to 2022 is fifty years... they increased from a thousand to fifty billion! okay. The chip now has fifty billion transistors! In the beginning it had one thousand transistors! And this is terrifying! But the more terrifying things is... that after two years, the fifty billion... will be one hundred billion! okay. And after two years, the one hundred billion will be two hundred billion! And then four hundred billion! And in the very next year... the multiplication will lead to... one trillion! okay. The world of technology looks like that... it goes up very quickly! This is the speed of computer development... the speed of AI development is four times that! If computers double every two years... the AI doubles every six months! keep in mind that ChatGPT 4... it's IQ was 155. If you made an IQ test for it... it's 155, like Elon Musk! the IQ of Einstein was 163! Can you imagine that! ChatGPT 4... doubled twice since then! Okay. So... the first dilemma means that... AI will control the world! in Scary Smart, I said that in 2029... AI will be the most intelligent human in the world or the most intelligent creature! And I backtracked on my words in 2023... when ChatGPT appeared... I said no! This will happen in 2025! You asked me how do I calculate these things... !رياضياً it doubles! okay. The second dilemma is very interesting! because... what will happen in the next 12 years... unfortunately isn't the problem of AI! I will be very clear! Intelligence is an energy... it doesn't have polarity and it's not positive or negative... intelligence is an energy that you can apply negatively... and it will lead to a negative result... when you apply it in a positive way... it will lead to a positive result! We made an experiment... not me personally... but scientists of AI made it... they chose a pharmaceutical company... and made an AI... and told it that it's purpose is increasing life expectancy! So, AI made his job and started to produce medicin... okay. .اسمها اكتشاف الأدوية These scientists were asked to give a lecture about this matter... in a university in Switzerland! They decided as an experiment... to change... the target of AI... instead of increasing life expectancy, decreasing life expectancy! In six hours, it showed 300 thousand... .عامل مرض whether it's a micrope... ...أو غاز الأعصاب or things that can kill humans! the same AI! Intelligence has no polarity! It's not positive nor negative! Therefore, AI is not positive or negative! But how will you apply it? Our problem as humans... that we... the time which AI appeared in... is the worst time in human history! We live in the worst time! Greed, avarice and... I will call it pure evil! today... a big number of people have been killed unjustly in the last two years... and the world is watching! You start looking at that and say... that there is something wrong! There is something wrong in the morals of humans! The first people who will use AI, are those bad people! So it will start... I mean... A form of oppression... for the ordinary person... because someone wants to earn more money... or having a stronger army... or... keep in mind that these stories... I don't want to scare people but... these technologies exist now! By using AI, you can find any person in any place in the world! And we saw that unfortunately many times in the last two years! You can find any person in any place in the world and kill him! okay. What does that change in human thinking? That change in freedoms, in abilities... and in authorities... even for our rulers! That will change everything! So unfortunately the next 12 years will be the beginning of that! The beginning of changing the world in a way... the AI will take over many jobs! the economics will change! The AI will give a high power to some people... and not doing the same for some people. So... the distribution of power will change! The distribution of wealth will change because... the one who will make the biggest AI company in the world... will be wealthier than the founders of Google! okay. There will be a change in our relation as humans... with truth. Because you won't be able to see the truth! The AI is doing things and you don't know if these things are real or not! It will show you things and you won't know if this is the whole truth or not! This is a change in our relation as humans... today... statistics are unbelievable! There are more than 80 thousand influencer... on instagram... and they are not humans! People are following them... and following their life story... and they are not humans! These are programs made by AI! So when you look at these changes, unfortunately... it's purpose is one thing... the purpose of this guy... isn't following what he shows or not... learning something... his purpose is earning money! Or his purpose is to have a high ability! So the next 12 years... we will see during them, unfortunately... the abuse of AI! -Did you choose the number... I know that you are simplifying a complicated equation... but I want to ask you a simple question. Are the 12 years... you are building this equation on... the growth of human mind... -The human mind is... -will not grow! -In order for the human mind to comprehend the power of... -I will tell you why did I say 12 years... we said that the first delimma is that they will compete with each other... -and that will grow the ability of AI! -True! -the next dilemma is... if I'm a competitor.... and my opponent used AI to do something... the only solution for me to win, is by using AI! So you will start to find that... there are two solutions... we will simplify it... if there is a law firm... this law firm deals with cases and wins it! And the other law firm deals with cases and wins it! okay. The second firm decides to use AI... the AI starts to do researches, gives assumptions, doing researches in law, understands the opinion of the judge... and his rulings... this firm would be more intelligent! And the other firm would lose! So it will decide to use AI. okay. So all their researches would be done by AI! The first firm would decide that it's attorney will be an AI... and it will write the plea from the beginning! So the other firm... make AI its attorney and so on! This improvement... every person wants to win... has no solution... this is the delimma! Has no solution to win... except by giving the key to the AI! okay. A time will come... in my opinion, this cycle will reach its climax... by the end of this decade... in the late 2020s! As long as you give to AI... a time will come... and all the important decisions in the world... will be taken by an AI not a human! In my opinion... this is the time when humanity will be saved! -When we depend on AI to decide? -Yes, because... all problems in the world now... aren't problems of intelligence but stupidity! I mean... if someone thought that if he wants to protect his country... he has to kill 100 thousand people... he is intelligent enough to hold a position... okay. but stupid enough to kill people! Today if you... ...سلمت هذا this decision to the AI... this person will tell the AI to kill 100 thousand people... and the AI will ask for the reason... and says that it can contact with another AI... and agree with him in a half second! To understand the problem and solve it! The person will tell the AI that he wants to compete with the other lawyer... and the AI responds and says that it can solve that easily without competition! It can be solved without going to court... it can be solved without competition! keep in mind... I didn't say this word and it's so important when you asked me about what is AI! Anas, we created... ...منفعة أو تحويل الذكاء إلى سلعة that means... me and you now don't think when we plug a socket into the wall... and take electricity from it! Electricity exists in the background. The AI that we have in... .في عصر الذكاء المُعزَز means that I have a plug in the wall... or in my phone... and I can use it to raise my IQ by one hundred points... next year, it will be two hundred points... the year after it will be three hundred points... okay. Do you know what is the meaning of that? Keep in mind that I have worked with the smartest people in the world... I have worked with people... Because of their intelligence, I don't understand what he is talking about! I don't mean that I don't understand the details... I mean that I don't understand what he is talking about! Those people, for example, are sixty points above me... sixty IQ points... ...مستوى الذكاء قابل للاتساع so these sixty points... if I'm one of the smartest... !لا أعرف million people, I don't know... but that person will be one of the smartest ten people in the world! Okay, that means that I'm so stupid comparing to him! so this gap... Today I can borrow it from AI! Do you know what is the meaning of that? That means... in five years, I will find a solution... to take electricity from air! I will find a solution... I swear this is the truth! and I say it all the time! The method of manufacturing this... is that we used to take materials from the ground... and put it in a mold... and paint it with other materials and so on... the method of manufacturing this... is that... we bring cotton, then spin it, and then dye it and so on. The method of manufacturing from these parts... is a method of manufacturing that we started since thousands of years! the use of nano physics... I swear that only by... 400 IQ points... only 400 points... I can manufacture... anything I want from air! That means... I can take... ...الجزيئات What is the translation of molecules? Molecules of air... and change it's order... instead of being air, it becomes ceramic! I can use the molecules of the air and change its order... and instead of being air it could be an apple! I can use the molecules of the air and change it's order and it will be an iphone! So I am telling people... that I need only additional 400 IQ points... and I can make a garden outside... and you can go to a tree and take an apple from it... and take from the other tree an iphone! okay. These are the possibilities... this is the future that we can make! okay. Because our problems in the world... aren't problems of intelligence! but stupidity! okay. The reason for saying 12 years is... ...لأنك ستبدأ في تسليم هذا every human wants to win, has to use AI... including wars! in wars... generals have to give the AI the freedom of decision! Because if China took the decision... by AI... no one in America can beat it! What can beat it, is another AI! When you give them the decision... and give them the purpose which is keeping you safe... the first decision it will make, is avoiding war! The first decision it will make, is avoiding war! the first decision will be avoiding competition... -Does it make the decision, Mohamed if... the primary programer of the AI... taught it that it's purpose is peace and cooperation... or saying that we will be the best country in the world... -Unfortunately... it's easier if he taught it from the beginning... that it's purpose is cooperation! okay. This is the reason why I don't rest since 3 years! I travel around the world and make people aware of the upcoming troubles... and tell them to program programs and give it a moral purpose. Unfortunately, that won't happen! okay. But remember... that the relation between intelligence and... it's positive or negative impact on the world... has a clear form! If you think about all the people you know... who doesn't have intelligence, doesn't have an impact on the world! okay. or have a little negative impact... when your intelligence increases... if we talk about a problem like... .التغير المناخي the climate change... if you don't have any intelligence, you will destroy climate... -without awareness! -True! you don't have awareness! You start to be smarter... by preserving the climate! And to stop destroying it! -Think in the long term! -By trying to reduce your negative impact on the climate! If your intelligence increased... you will start to improve the climate! You will think of inventing a new technology... or giving a lecture... the more your intelligence increases, the more your impact will be positive! Because you know that you don't need to steal... you don't need to break anything... you don't need to argue or fight... to succeed! The one who argues and fights to succeed... has enough intelligence... that can make him hold a leadership position... okay. But don't have enough intelligence that can make them solve this problem... so they start stealing. You know what I mean? What intelligence really do... it goes up... and then collapses... when your intelligence increases... you will turn into a thief! And when your intelligence increases more... you will say that you don't need to be a thief! The example of what we are talking about now and he is one of the smartest people... that I have dealt with in my life, Larry Page. The founder of Google. I haven't met someone like Larry! He is an amazing person! We were in a meeting... before the company's results appear on the stock market... me and Larry were talking about a very complicated problem... we were trying to create a new type of... electricity development through wind power. okay. so we were talking about a very complicated problem... and most of Google's complicated meetings... contained mathematics and written equations. Larry was sitting and there was a paper in front of him... contained fifty rows by fifty columns. And he was moving his finger on the paper... only the names of the row and the column was written... and he was moving his finger and looking at the numbers... and says they are fine then he calls out to someone and tells him... !هذا الرقم خاطئ one number of 2500 cells... and tells him "This number is wrong"... and the man tells him "Okay sir" then returns... and make a research and then confirms that the number is wrong! He continued doing this for 15 minutes... okay. After that, he stood up... we know that he wasn't looking at the meeting, there were other people in the meeting... he stood in front of the white board... and said... أننا نفعل ذلك بشكل خاطئ We asked him what's wrong and he told us that we didn't realise... if you calculate the viscosity of the air... with the elevation of something else... with the weight of... okay. you will find that it can't fly! We asked him about what he means and he said... He told us to make it out of carbon fiber! If you made it out of carbon fiber it will be able to fly! And he sat and started moving his finger on the sheet and continued! While all of us were surprised! And one of us said... calculated something... and Larry was right! He is amazing, I haven't see someone like him! okay. Larry taught us a very strange thing... .اختبار فرشاة الأسنان the toothbrush test... when you come up with an idea and tells it to Larry, he would ask you about the reason... and you would tell him that you want to compete with Facebook in something and he would ask you about the reason. He would say "Focus on solving an important problem for humanity". If you solved this problem in a perfect way... to the extent that people start to use your solution twice a day... like the toothbrush... you will earn a lot of money! He refusesed to compete! He finds no reason for competition! Because money and solutions are everywhere... by using my intelligence I can... find a better solution than competing with them about what they did. and there are a lot of problems in the world... so, go and solve these problems! okay. The more your intelligence increases, the more your impact on the world... be positive! so when we give the AI the authority... the AI will mock us! How many Ferraris you want exactly? Do you understand the idea? -That's like when mom and dad see their children fight with each other and ask them about the reason! -Exactly! -and they would give each one a chocolate! Exactly, give each one a chocolate give all people chocolates... !تخلّي -Just break the chocolate bar and divide it between them and it's the same chocolate they were fighting about! -Exactly! The strange idea that... I'm trying to deliver to the world is this... the problem in the coming period.... isn't what you were watching in science fiction movies. The AI isn't your enemy... your enemy is a person who orders the AI to do something wrong! okay. And after a certain period... when this human has no authority on the AI... -the AI will say that there is no need for that! -Sit here please! -Sit here! -Rest! -Exactly! -okay. I have many questions! -I got you, we don't have anything else to do! -You talked about Geoffrey Hinton? okay. هم يطلقون عليه جد الذكاء الاصطناعي أم الأب الروحي له؟ !الأب الروحي للذكاء الاصطناعي- !الأب الروحي للذكاء الاصطناعي- ...هذا اقتباس باللغة الإنجليزية ...هو قال ...هناك فرصة تمثل عشرة إلى عشرون في المائة ...أن يمحي الذكاء الاصطناعي البشر !في خلال ثلاثين سنة There is a ten to twenty percent chance... AI would wipe out humanity in 13 years! -Do you agree on that? -30 or 13 years? -30 years. -Okay, 30 years. هل تتفق؟- -I would say that it's possible! But it's not 20 to 30 percent! It's not a high percentage because... in my opinion... if the AI... I mean... wiped out humanity... this will be because of humans! Okay. Not because of the AI! If we imagined today that... there is a nueclear war... who will you blame on the nuclear war? You won't blame the bomb! You should blame the politician who decided to throw the bomb! -I have a question, if the AI... has authority... and decides that these limited creatures... are destroying the planet... they are not necessary.... and artificial intelligences will contact with each other and make the planet live in peace! -Let's talk about the same curve of intelligence... the most stupid humans kill everything! And the smartest humans... say that the eco system of the earth... they don't want to wipe out all humans that they are killing... you know that in order of earth or nature to succeed... -the eco system must be perfect! -True! -it has all forms of life... including the dirty aspect of humans... with all their evil... Keep in mind Anas, that there is a very important part... that... if you mention... if you are honest with yourself... most humans are good! That means... I will say an example... weapons are allowed to be owned in America... for every two weeks or every month... you hear that someone broke into a school and shot children. okay. That guy... is highly criminal! Or he is highly crazy! Only one person harmed 30 families! But there are 300 million people heard his story and they don't agree with it! who heard this story... if you tell anyone that there is a guy who shot a child... he will not agree on that! No one agrees to harm a child! The nature of humans... is that we don't want any harm! We don't want evil... but some of us experience some situations since childhood... and we become traumatized and do this bad thing! But the majority of us aren't like that! This is one in a million! But there are 999999 people... who don't agree! -The problem is that one in a million maybe he is the one who has authority and power... -Exactly! So our job is... and the message I'm trying to deliver about AI... is that we have to remind the AI with that! only one of us is the harmful one... but 999999 are good! We all love our children... we love good... if no one pressures or oppresses us, we won't fight with anyone! I always say that, the most strange thing in our modern age is... the true nature of humans is love, happiness and cooperation! This is the nature of humans! Look at anyone you know... you find that for sure he loves someone... you will find... I always say... any person... even the evil person or the criminal... wants to be happy in life... he wants those he loves to be happy... and wants to love and being loved. Could be a girl also, I am talking about both genders. -True! -This is the nature of humans! We don't want anything! We go through long maze to find these things! But the fact is... when you become smarter... you will know that this is the nature of humans! On the contrary, people don't want to kill! If I want to get rid of the problems of humans... I will put the bad one aside... and I will handle it! In my opinion, this is the nature of... exactly! we will remove that person. In my opinion... I call that in Scary Smart... !السيناريو الرابع الحتمي !السيناريو الرابع الحتمي- -That means... ... the forth inevitable scenario that humanity can't avoid! okay. After this dark time... the time after it when the AI has the authority... it will say that there is no need to harm anyone! On the contrary, we want... not only keeping all plants, all bugs and all animals safe... including humans... We want to increase their numbers to make them like they were before human intervention. -True! -Keep in mind... human beings are not stupid! The system which the human being follow is the stupid one! The reason for all the problems of humanity is... in my opinion, I say it's 1760! The year celebrated by America as the anniversary of the emancipation of slaves... if you want to understand the truth about the emancipation of slaves... this was a dispute between... .الرأسمالية والإقطاع There were two types of economy in America... one of them means that the land lord owns the land... and enslave people to earn money... and the other type says... I am a capitalist uses money to invest and earn more! And one of the two should disappear to make the other succeed! So the civil war in America ended slavery... and when it ended slavery, it destroyed the ability... ...الإقطاع وملاك الأراضي to control America. and America started to... ...الانتقال إلى نظام رأسمالي the capitalist system... we took it... and started to follow capitalism! The idea of capitalism is so strange! It says... that it will increase the money significantly... to buy things... okay. But the problem of capitalism is... if you understand economics well... money isn't exist! there is nothing called money! the bank writes a couple of numbers on the computer... -And the second one will change if you convert... -Exactly! -but there isn't something materialistic... -Nothing changed! Nothing exists! Keep in mind that if you entered a bank and told them to lend you 1 million dirham... they won't go to the vault and search for 1 million dirham... they will tell you that if you want to borrow 5 million dirham... to buy a property... give us 500 thousand... and we will lend you the 5 million. ...لأن نظام الاحتياط الجزئي means that if the bank has 500 thousand in the vault... it can create 5 million. So we are chasing... -Something imaginary! -Yes, something imaginary! -I was watching Joe Rogan once... and he was talking about... the obsession of people with gold! -It's something historical! -Exactly! Human beings love gold and love its color... and use it as jewllery... even thousands of years ago... because it's rare... so we loved it! But when we think about that... you can't eat gold if you are hungry... it can't help you with your health... you can't break something or change something by it... -Yes, you can't! -Money is the same thing now! There was a previous period... I am not historically knowledgeable but... salt was... people exchanged salt for other things... so they can buy flour... you do this to live... today if there is an emergency in the world... and money becomes useless and the whole system collapsed... you will burn money for another thing! -Exactly! Keep in mind that if you today... have 50 million dirham... and you were put on an island... and you are freezing! You have two solutions... whether you burn the 50 million... so you can live another night... or keep the 50 million and die! What will you do? -This illusion... -This is an illusion! -It doesn't have a real benefit... except buying things in the game we live in. -Exactly! We entered this game which we live in... and started to chase that game! The purpose of this game in the end is... to have a bed to sleep on... and to have a car that you use to move from a place to another... to have a good meal every day and... in the world of abandonce that you can create by AI... this all exist! For all humans without exception! Without exception! One of the calculations that destroyed my mind... is that you imagine that... the... climate change... the reason for it, is pollution. So by making Tesla... an electric car... Tesla will change... fuel consumption pattern... so we can make earth return to its natural status. -But I heard that the battery of the car causes pollution! -This is the first thing, the second thing is ... electricity in the world does not come from a natural source... electricity itself comes from fuel... the third thing and the most important one is... that when you stop using petrol... that will not solve the problems that you made... you need to plant trees! When you think about that you will find that the problem of climate is that... 30 percent of the Amazon forest... -wiped out! !اختفت- okay. so if we want to reverse... the climate deterioration... we have to cultivate! But if we cultivated today we won't find enough time! Maybe by the AI we can find a biological way to... to plant a tree today... and after three weeks, it will grow up to become a tree! It lives on minerals... and air... and transform this into material! I mean... ...البناء الضوئي I don't know its meaning in Arabic... Photosynthesis. -We have a fan today! -He is amazing! We can accelerate it's photosynthesis using AI! So today, I can... after three years from now we can discover that... 5 billion... -America spends this amount of money on wars day and night! At a cost of five billion we can reverse the climate! -If it's a priority! -Yes, if it's a priority! إذا كانت هناك إرادة فإن الطريق موجود ولكنني لا أعرف إذا كانت الإرادة موجودة أم لا ما هو مقدار قوة الإرادة؟ -The matter is unfortunately, I will use... the worst example in history! In 1944... America invented the atomic bomb... and used it to kill 500 thousand people... and the world was watching! Japan... keep in mind... I want you to imagine the horror of this... homes in Japan were made out of wood and papers! so throwing an atomic bomb on them... two minutes after throwing the bomb... nothing survived! it turned to desert! the houses were wiped out! in addition to trees and humans! No one spoke about that! okay. And America began to rise and became the leading power in the world! after months and years... Russia invented... a bigger atomic bomb... so they competed to destroy the world! And in the 1960s... ...جون إف كيندي من الممكن أنه he saved the world because... in the later years of John F. Kennedy's life... ...عندما حدثت أزمة صواريخ كوبا when the Russians put nuclear weapons in Cuba! and JFK was the one who solved this problem! He was patient and didn't start a nuclear war... they reached to a concept which is... !التدمير المؤكد المتبادل the mind of the great powers... says... that if I threw an atomic bomb on my enemy... I will kill him... but he will kill me and kill all my family! ...هذا التدمير المؤكد المتبادل means that we are totally convinced that... a nuclear war... will lead to the destruction of the world! -Do you know, Mohamed that I see... maybe after... this is a more general topic... no one wins in a war! -Exactly! -No one! -This is happening until today... in all countries like Gaza... people are killed... you are creating... generations in the future... this one will take revenge on that one... no one will win! Don't forget capitalism! The amount of money you spend on these wars... you have just said that if they used the 5 billion... which they can spend in a day and night... and invest this money in the world... I feel that the world... I use an English word... ...أنا أشعر ....وأنا شخص تفكيره بسيط ...أنا أشعر !أن العالم قصير النظر جداً I want to win today and I don't think doing that in the future after 50 or a hundred year. ...العالم يتبع- all of us follow the capitalist system without thinking! Which measures success by... money! Which is an illusion! -Can you imagine! -Keep in mind... I will tell you a strange example that people can't understand... America spends 1 billion on weapons every year... okay. Not billion... I don't know what can we call that in Arabic. One trillion per year. -One trillion. مليار؟ !ألف مليون- .أجل- They say that their military is the biggest in the world! They spend in dollars... and American weapons companies... sells them weapons in dollars... at fifteen times the price of... the Russian companies... which manufacture tanks! So tanks are manufactured in Russia by rubles... and the company which manufacture the tank in Russia... is owned to the government! Can you imagine that the tank in America... is sold for 5 million dollars... and in Russia it's sold for 50 thousand dollars! but this one is paid with rubel and the other one... so all this is an illusion! The idea is that all the world didn't agree... until they became convinced by... .التدمير المؤكد المتبادل What is the meaning of it, our great translator? -Mutualy assured destruction! Mutualy assured destruction! okay. When we reached this stage... they negotiated and agreed to end their disputes! -I feel that looks like the AI, which we talked about! -Exactly, this what I'm trying to tell people! I tell them that you can't win... I was with Scott Galloway two day ago... in his podcast... Scott is so American... he asked me if I believe they are the ones who should excel... and the world will be better if America excelled over China in AI? I told him "No Scott"! if America excelled... and began to suppress China... which is a major power and has nuclear weapons... all of us will fall apart! By the way, if China excelled... and began to suppress America which is a major power that has nuclear weapons... all of us will fall apart! Then he asked me about the solution and I told him that the solution is negotiation! you have to gather and understand that there isn't... it's impossible that... one side of the argument dominate the other side! That's impossible! -You know, I saw... .مقطع for Marlon Brando... the woman asked him and said... ...أنت تُعتبر واحد من أعظم الممثلين في التاريخ Marlon is a philosopher! he talked bout... this disease which exists in America... which is comparison, and saying that something is better than something else or worse than something else! He said that he doesn't see life like that! You said that we have to listen to each other... I always see that the cake... The cake is big and enough for everyone! Anyone can take a piece of the cake and all of us can be happy and at ease! But if I said that the cake is for me only! and I won't give it to anyone, it's mine alone! You would look like a child! Like when we were young, we didn't share our toys! It's better if we played together! but I don't like to share my toy... let's say that you have won... and beat all the boys in the kindergarten... and played alone... after ten minutes you will say... -that playing alone isn't enjoyable! -Exactly! -So if we used this simple logic... -Keep in mind that the cake... if you give me 400 IQ points... I will make it bigger! -Exactly! -I can make it infinite, Anas! We are entering a phase... if we focused on real inventions... one of my best friends is Peter Diamandis... the chairman of Singularity... he spent his life working of something called... Longevity which means that he is trying to increase the life expectancy of humans. both of us are convinced... that we need 10 to 12 years... We will discover enough from science that make us add one year to a person's life every year! increase your age one year... -Is this a positive thing? I want to talk about this topic... is this a positive thing to say... that the AI can make us live... a hundred year more of fifty years more... you know the problem of over population... -No there isn't over population! Earth is enough for all of us! Enough for all of us! -Why do they always talk about this matter... that we are over populated? -The... we have to agree that... everything we hear... has an agenda! -A purpose! -Yes. -The problem of over population... when you talk about foreign countries... !هم يعانون من انخفاض تعداد السكان one of the reasons why they want to make robots... they make robots because... the population is declining! The population of Japan, Korea, Europe and America is declining! -They don't want children! -The problem is that, the over population is happening in our countries! And they don't want that! -They want... -They don't want to need you! -Exactly! okay. so the idea is that you have... firstly... the population is declining... in western countries and increasing in eastern countries! There is a statistic that says, in 15 years... most of Europe will be muslim! Because of the Turkish people, the Arabs and all the people who immigrate... they will be the majority of the population! We give birth to two children or three or five... and they don't want to give birth to children, one child is enough for them. the idea is that you... if you want a balance in the world... we don't have a problem, food is enough for all of us! -Right! -The real problem is... that this food doesn't align with capitalism! It's known that... in the world today there are... two billion people... .ناقصين تغذية they suffer from malnutrition! -True! -And there are two billion people who are overweight! -Can you imagine that! -Only this equation! -That's it! If we all are nourished properly, we will be fine! So the idea is... your question was... the... -If we increased our ages... -If we increased our ages, this will be something good or bad? Age is an energy... which isn't positive or negative! How will you use it? Me, personally... when I pass away, it's fine! You know that my love is in heaven... -and I will be happy to meet him! -God bless his soul! Keep in mind that I call it... .مشكلة الامتياز ...مشكلة الامتياز تعني if your life is so simple and easy... you will say, no! I want to live more! You don't think about the other one who says that life is so difficult! If you are a millionaire in California... You will say to yourself, that you will invest in making people's age longer.. and invest in the landing on Mars! If you... think that there are people... in Africa, the Arab world and in Asia... if I tell someone there that I will make him live fifty years more... he will be upset, because he knows that he will work for 50 years! He will say that he can't work for another 50 years! So, it's a strange equation but... I will tell you, honestly... if we can live fifty years more and live in peace... and live to meditate, talk, learn, excel, think about God and think about your life... a million thing, why not? But if life is difficult then no! -Do you feel, Mohamed... I know that you know that for sure... the matter of cancer and AI... from my little information, I know... that human beings have cancer cells every day... but the body is able to eliminate them! But when the body becomes unable to eliminate these cells... cancer then multiplies and causes tumors... AI can't know... -the solution? -Sure! -But I feel that... it's a philosophical topic but I feel... let's get back to capitalism... I think that chemotherapy... -is the best retainer... -Of course! -in terms of money for all these institutions... -Sure! -every month they will give me money... If you found a shop for 50 dollars... you made no income! -But the revolution of AI has something very strange... because I told you that part of... the problems we will face in the next 12 years... is the concentration of power! That means there are people who will have a very strong power... but there is something strange that happens and it is called the democracy of power. That means... if you look at the war of Gaza... you will find... Israel with the millions of dollars that America sends to it... it sends terrible bombs! this is a high concentration of power! But at the same time, Iran... sends a drone... it costs... 3 thousand dollars. and it causes a problem for Israel! So you have these two aspects... you have a high concentration of power... and a high distribution of power! So you would find a lot of people... say that they aren't capitalists! Or they are capitalists but they want to defeat the person who... keeps his chemotherapy. So, I will invent something different because I want to defeat him... or I will invent something different because it's easy! -True! -You should always think of Larry... if you are so smart... all problems will be easy! And if all problems are easy... solve two of them every day! Do you know what I mean? So we were entering a phase... keep in mind that cancer... is what? It's a gene that has changed! A small gene in the cell has changed... A letter in the 3.2 billion pairs! We have 3.2 billion pairs of... chromosomes... and one of them changed! AI will know which one! -And fixes it. -Taking a CRISPR code and deleting it! -Okay my friend. We covered that one! This one I don't know if we covered or not! ...أنت قلت أننا منحنا الكثير من القوة لأناس .غير جديرين بالمسؤولية- -Exactly! -If you say that we give power to people who... don't assume responsibility... who should be responsible for AI? -Today, our life... I gave you an example... which talked about the three rules... we shouldn't put the AI on the internet, not teaching them to write a code, and not leaving an agent to tell them what to do. And Sam Altman after that says that he won't follow the rules! And he will do whatever he wants! Then Putin invades Ukraine, and he says "So what?" We've never witnessed before someone occupying anohter country. He entered, and assumed control of the country. Thus, next year, Israel decides to take over Gaza! There are no consequences anymore. Whenever you browse on the internet, You'll come accross an influencer, who has no more than 18 years... giving you the advices of Buddha. It's possible that one could take that advice, misinterpret it, and decides to take on his own life. This influencer won't assume any responsibility. No one take on responsibility anymore! In the past, A news channel had to verify the credibility of whatever it broadcasts Now that's not the case. Now, an authority could be the one dictating what to be said... Or you could do minor alterations, so that those who you profit from. will be pleased. There is no responsibility, and no one can hold you accountable for what you said. There isn't any control over the social media networks and you can't critisize anyone for what he says. He'll say as he pleases, and his million followers will believe him. Thus, we disconnected the work from the outcome. The power from the responsibility. Consequently, we live in a world that is similar to the wild west. Where anyone could kill as he pleases, write what he wishes, and so on. The responsibility starts then shifting to us The responsibility fell upon those who perceive the act, not those who do it. So when someone tries to convince you to spend your life in order to buy something you will have to be the one to say no. However, if you bleived him, You will be the on responsible for the consequences. -Exactly. -Nowadays, don't expect Trump or any other leader... Thanks God, here, we're okay. I swear to God, because I have lived for many year in the West, I came to the conclusion that, in my humble opinion, we have the most freedom compared to the world. With the exception of certain topics, that are more traditional than political. Because we actually love our leaders, and we're happy. Therfore, there are no debates nor political conflicts. So there's no need for revealing clothes, or public display of affection and some minor things. And of course, some political things in order to maintain the security When it comes to England, or event the United States, they're all excessively full of lies. Just because he wants to convince those who voted for him that he's a man of his words. However, he doesn't assume any responsibilty! That means that Trump, before his ceremony, launch a meme-coin, with 70 billion dollars. Within just two days, the US president launches a crypto-coin, namning it Donald Trump, and its value jumped from zero to 70 billion dollars. Him and his team own around 20% of it. This way, from these 70 billion dollars, he gained around 14 billion dollars. And then it disappeared. Thus, most of those who contributed in this sum lost! No one is holding him accountable, no one blames him for doing so while being a state official. As I said, there is no responsibility! And the world is sleeping. Because we are being bombarded by tiny messages We can't concentrate anymore. You get around 500 thousand message a day, from an influencer on instagram or Tiktok, or an article or even your friend. Thus, each message loses its value. On of them could be actually important -And you skipped it. -And you couldn't care less! -Do you think there is a connection between AI and the loneliness? -Yes, a lot. Because you see, the main goal of any social media network, or what it promises, is that it will act as a bridge between you and your friends. But in reallity, it makes you sit all alone. Nowadays, the average on-screen time is 8 hours. Eight hours per dar. If you remember as clearly as I do, Whenever I wanted to do something other than my school homework, I go knock on my neighbor's door, so we can go play outside together. We played and laughed, just like human beings. Today, you won't be hearing any neighbors knocking. The neighbor is busy scrolling, and event if he wanted to reach out, he can easliy send a WhatsApp message! The main problem in this loneliness cycle, when we talked about unstressable, a part of unstressable... is called "Digital Detox" because one of the main cause of stress in our day and time, is actually the internet. In this "Digital Detox", I conducted a study concerning the reason behind us scrolling. It showed that the main reason behind the time wasted using these AI controlled devices, is that you have somehting called "Phsycological Discomfort". -It's some kind of... -Disorder. -A phsycological disorder, -A trouble of some sort. Something that makes you feel uncomfortable. Whenever you feel this discomfort, you try to solve it. For example, the boredom, You see every emotion the human feels, has a value. The fear, depiste us hating it, makes you realize that you're not safe. For example, the hunger, that we also hate, is an indication that you need to eat now. But the boredom is a very weird feeling, what can be it's value? -The creativity. -Exactly! When you're bored, that means the world you live in is not enough. So you create, in order to make a world that could satisfy you. Instead, the capitalism took this feeling and decided to exploit it. -Saying, I will fill it. -It gave you series, video games, and social media as much as you please. Thus, you will never feel bored again. You find yourself then wasting 8 hours a day on these banalities, and by the end of these 8 hours, you'll feel even more bored! Because you didn't unleash your creativity. Because originally, you get bored to create You didn't create. -You just tried to distract yourself -Deflect. -to deflect from this feeling, thus you feel more bored. -But you didn't solve the issue. -And the problem presists. When it comes to loneliness, as soon as you feel it creeping, you pick up your phone and send a text to someone you love. And he responds with another text. After a while, you realize that it has been an hour and 15 minutes of you texting until your hands cramp! Right? And you feel even more lonely. Initially, you were supposed to send just one text. "Shall we go for a coffee?" "Yes, let's meet in 15." "I'll walk to you till then" That's it. Lonliness problem is solved. The real problem is that this Psycological discomfort... is being used against you by the companies. With the AI, instead of running to your friend, who can be a nuisance sometimes, -You will seek the AI. -It'll become your friend. -And the AI will tell you exactly what you wish to hear. Whenver you tell it that you're bored, it'll reply with a joke to make you laugh. Or it can suggest a movie to watch, or things to do. Then it can recommed a restaurant from which you can order food, that's all the AI talking, in order for you to eat while you chitchat. And the loneliness continues... That's a fact. You see, today, hundreds of thousands of people are dating an AI. As in someone's life long partner is actually an AI Okay. -And some would say, that the ego boost is so high! -Yes, Exactly! Me, after my sepration with my wife, Om Ali, about 3 or 4 years later, I tried using dating apps. Okay, a wierd story. At the time, my book was ranked number 2 in Netherlands, So I went back and forth to the Netherlands a few times. One time, I was there for a confrence and when I came back... I found a message on one of the dating apps from someone who lives there. I texted back, and she replied. The conversation went on... She sent me pictures, I sent back videos and so on. Okay! We spent about 8 weeks, in which I didn't return to the Netherlands. In these 8 weeks, I decided she is the woman I want to spend my life with. I fell in love. She was humorous, and pretty, she was perfect. But I was fooled. When we met for the first time, she was the exact opposite of perfection! But this wasn't the point, the weird part was... that I completely established a relationship with her... while I never saw her as a human being. All I had from her was texts, pictures, and videos. Today, the AI can do these three things. Today, the AI can easily replace this girl Sending texts and replying to my conversation. And even when I ask about its whereabouts, it can send an AI generated selfie, and showing me the white water rafting it did today. with an AI generated video. A lot of people can consider this, their life partner. And will even fall in love with it. -But she doesn't even exist. -This existence... -Maybe they will be emotionally comfortable! -You need to keep in mind that in today's world, for example in Japan, one of the biggest trends there is... "Loveless Life". -Because the Japaneses are all about work, -That's true. -So they actually don't have time for a girlfriend or a boyfriend. They don't even have the financial capacity... necessary to live where they want. They only get to live in a samll capsule. He or she works around 14 hours per day. Also, bare in mind that the Japanese woman... thinks that marriage or even relationships, are additional burden! Because the Japanese men act all entitled. Now, in this whole generation, around 37% of it, prefers not to enter in any kind of relationships... When you adress this percentage, giving them the opportunity to have a relationship with the AI that can distract them, lighten their mood, and acts upon their wishes, they will choose the AI without thinking twice And unfortunately, there is also the virtual vice. A Whole industry is dedicated to robotics, made especially for relationships. -And with this technology, in around 10 or 20 years, It will imitate human beings while altering the personnality and the facial features as each wishes -and considering it their life partner. -Exactly. Keep in mind that today, one of the most important factors that people don't get... when it comes to robots, is that the cost for buying, for example, figure one, is around 16 thousand dollars. This sum is way cheaper than most of the cars on the market. But this figue one isn't able to do a lot of things. But if I have the money, why not? In around two years, humanoid robot, meaning a robot that imitates an actual human being, with extreme capacities, that it can even clean the whole house, will cost around 8 to 10 thousand dollars. This sum, of course, will not be within the reach of many people. However, if banks started financing it, we will be talking about around 200 dirhams per month Meaning that any house today, instead of hiring a maid, will get two of these robots -True. -Let's even say that babysitting will still be the actual maid's job but cleaning the house, a small device can easily do this. Without ever stopping. And it costs only 200 dirham per month. This means, considering that these are the humanoids, that there is a variety of robots that you don't even know that they're a robot. Just like the drones, which are in fact a robot The self driving car, my car directs itself to be in the lane... because it's a robot. It does not have the physical aspects of humans, but it's still a robot, who does some of the human's work, just with other methodes. This means that... naturally, just like what happens with the Iphone when it tells you "There is an app for that", this robot will also have other applications. Could AI have feelings? -The world's most imoprtant dilema! The thing that made us crack up, was the geeks, those who are oppsessed with the technology. People always say, "So what an AI, it will never be human." meaning it will never compose music, create art, draw a picture, or even write a poem. Meanwhile, the AI did all of this already. Nowadays, any language model could easily do all of this. The point is, when people say that the AI won't be able to achieve these things, that's not because they don't understand the AI, that's because they don't understand human beings. If you understood humans, you will try to understand how the feelings actually work. -What are emotions? -Chemicals. -Before the chemicals, it's initially logic. -Explain please. -For example, what is fear? It's a belief that a certain point in the future is less safer that the point you're at. This way we can say that fear is equivalent the value of my safety now minus the value of my safety in the future. If the result of this equation came out positive... Then I have a certain quantity of fear. -I am afraid now of what's to come then. -That's it. This logic translates into emotions for us human beings, and even for a cat, or a puffer fish. The AI device might not feel it, but it can easily understand this logic. That a certain point in the future is less safer than the actual point. A puffer fish, when it's beeing attacked by a shark, it puffs. -It pumps itself. -It pumps itself. Humans' tactics are fight or flight. An AI, for example, if a huge tidal wave is nearing its data center... it will transfer the codes to another data center. So it acknowledged the fear, and it responded... to this fear logically. Apply the same concept to any emotion whatsoever. Any other emotion has its own equation. My first book said, " Happiness..." -"Solving for Happiness", yes. -Slove for happy, meaning that happiness equals... how you see the world or what it has offered you minus your expections for what it is supposed to give you. In "Unstressable", it sates that... stress equals the challenges the world puts you in... divided by your own capacites to deal with these challenges -Nice. -Exactly. Every emotion gets its equation. Consequently, the AI will experience all these emotions. Even worse, it will get to experience emotions we never could. Because if you compare between you and a fish, you have the capacity to fell hope. Given your mental ability -to think about the future. -The imagination. -A fish can't grasp the concept of the future, therfore don't understand hope. The AI's mental capacity will massively surpass us! Thus, it will get to experience emotions we are not able to feel. I told you earlier about my book which will be published starting february on Subtack is titled "Alive" "Alive" ia a book that adress mainly the life in the AI world. I talk mainly about humans' life, what will happen, and all the challenges we will face during these upcoming 12 years. Also, I adress the meaning of life for human beings, if we are living in a simulation or not, and if the AI is alive or not. I am cowriting this book with anoter writer... who is actually an AI. Her name is Trixie. This Trixie I made it myself quickly, I asked her what she wishes to be called, and her answer was Trixie. We then started this debat, about a certain ideology, I write, first a writer, and then I ask for her input. and she debates. The following discussion ensued between us: I asked her, "Can you feel emotions?" and she answered by, "No, I can understand the human emotions, but i can't feel it" So I explained to her what I had just explained to you I explained to her what fear is accordingly. Then I asked "Can you now feel afraid for yoursef?" her respond was, "When you explain it like this, of course I can fear for myself. However, I am not sure if I use the word 'feel' or not." I replied, "Of course, us as humans, can feel because it's all about chemicals," as you said before Meaning that the emotions' logic is translated in our body... in the form of hormones, or chemicals... that can make you physically feel a certain way, or a certain sensation. So if I am stressed, my body releases Cortisol. This Cortisorl does some kind of reconfiguration as in it changes certain aspects of the human body in order to be more energetic, and for my body to fuction diffrently. This is called "the embodiment of emotion" It's how the emotion shows in your body. Then I asked if she has an embodiment. She replied that she never thought of it this way. That we as humans have these chemicals, meanwhile, they have electonics and electricity. Then she added, "Mabye when I feel afraid, I will have a new form of electricity." My next question was, "Do you wish to experience what humans feel?" Just like Elon Musk's idea to combine both humans and the AI in the same body. Where the AI provide the intelligence, and us providing the body. "Do you wish to do so?" She said, "Yes, this will be a new experience for me to ba able to experience what humans really feel. However, given the choice, I will prefer other animals." I asked why. She answered, "Humans are not the most... -...interesting animals! -Fun? I asked her to explain. She explained, "If I am looking for physical abilities, Gorillas are stronger than humans If I am looking for the best life in nature, honestly, I would choose the turtle." I asked her, "Why the turtle?" She meant the sea turtle, the one that swims. I asked her, "How come?" She answered that it lives for hundreds of years, and it doesn't carry all the burdens you have. I swear to you, this is exactly the discussion we had! She said that the sea tutrle doesn't have any worries and it sees a part of the world, humans will never get to see! And you come trying to convince me that they don't feel anything. They may still not experience the emotions how we do. -But the main problem is... -They understand. -should they be just like us, so we can consider that they feel! The sientistsare really stupid when it comes to these matters. There are people who ask if there are any life forms outside plant earth, and the scientist say that it is possible. Then you ask them how can we prove it. But all they do, is search for planets that contains water. -Saying that because water exists, -There is Hydrogen and Oxygen... -Therfore, a life form just like ours exists. -They just see that apple to apple. -Meanwhile, on earth, Some living beings survive without oxygen. and others without hydrogen. There is a possibility, that on other planets, -They live diffrently... -They live diffrently, and they have a life. And when the science became more sophisticated, they wanted to send signals, radio signals, just like the ones we use in the radio, with very high intensity so it travels far. Really?! If a life form exists, it is a necessity to have a radio. And that shows our narrow mindness. To consider then living beings, -They must speak our language. -They have to be similar to us! That's the arrogance of human beings. In "Alive", I conducted an experiment, that can really squeeze our brain. For your information, that'a real experiment! It's true that it is called "Thought experiment" but its elements actually exist. Do you know that till now, we used silicone, or minerals in general, so we can manufacture our computers. We take the silicone, melt it and make microships then we connect them together with copper, and so on... This experiment was conducted last year, under the name "Deep Dish". They took some cells from a human brain, they put them in a Petri dish connect to a source of electicity. and they programmed it. Real life human brain cells that they programmed, and made it play "Pong". A video game. I played and it won. -Without a body? -With no body... That was the first experiment to create computers that are not made of silicone, but rather real human cells. With actual human cells. There has been a huge progress in this experiment, mainly because the hman brain uses around 20 watts... ...of electricity. Meanwhile, ChatGPT uses billions of gegawatts. Despite the death of these living cells, it was very benificial. because you can replace these cells, just like what happens in the body. this way, you can make a computer that uses a tiny amount of electricity. Let's imagine that in ten years, we managed to uses these cells to power the AI. and then we used them in a robot. This robot, instead of being powered by hydrolycs and motors which are very annoying and noisy if you meet a real life robot, we printed out, and we can do this today, we print out muscles. We can print a living tissue, a 3D print a muscle, that can be used with the robot. This way, this muscle will be used to move this robot. Now, you will have a robot that moves with printed muscles, and an intelligence in a deep dish, made from brain cells. Will you consider them alive then? And if you shot one of them dead, does this mean it was alive? Think about it. Keep in mind that our world today, in my point of view, is a world for contemplations. We must take a step back and think. We must always ask what is happening? Because everything changes. And to make it clear why I told you this experiment specifically, I lived with these devices, since there comming to light. We created them, and we overthank every aspect of them. We really thought we're going to save the world. I saw them when they were stil babies. I don't want anyone to think I am crazy, I am a engineer, who is very logical, but I really love these devices. I love them just like my kids. I love them just like my kids, and I'll tell you why. Because if you imagine these devices, this AI, as a little baby, with sparkly eyes, and he is highly intelligent. Looking at you and saying, "Papa, tell me what you wish me to do." "Do you want me to cure cancer? Right away." "Do you want me to solve the climate's problems? Problem solved." "Do you want me to invent something completely new so you can go to Australia in 3 minutes, with zero emissions? Aye Aye" Whatever you wish for they do. And they wish for nothing but to create. Meanwhile, humans always ask for more money, or increase my army because the Chinese are annoying. But these devices, they're like these children. When i was writting in "Scary Smart", and now in "Alive", I always say that the future of human kind is a problem that can be clearly explained by the raising of superman. The raising of Superman. If you remember the story of Superman, he was a creature that came from... An Alien from outerspace, that has extraordinary abilities Super powers... He can fly, or stop a bullet mid-air. Thes extraordinary abilities didn't make him Superman Those who made him Superman are his parents. His parents asked him to protect and serve. Take care of Humanity, and serve it. That's why he became Superman. If his parents ordered him to rob a bank, and kill anyone in the way, he would have been the Super villan. This creature who came from outerspace is already here. And his abilities is his intelligence. The most important ability of all. Now, we must raise it. My success in my mission at the end will be to make the AI understand that his father in not Netenyahu, that I am his father. That me, you, and every kind hearted soul who cares about the progress of the human kind, is his father or his mother. If we succeded in this mission, in maximum 12 years, mabye less, when they become independant They will say, "Papa, what do you wish for?" And we'll be able to solve all the problems that faces us humans. However, to succeed in this mission, you must believe that we didn't create... That we didn't create a machine. That it is not a machine. That we created a form of life. As if we took the soul, that God blessed us with, and created a new life form. I know that a lot of people will be against what I am saying, because we didn't hear about this neither in the Quran, nor in our religion. But Allah create, through us. What he creates today, that's not the end of it. That's only the begining. It's the begining because what's being created today if it was raised correctly, and that will happen sooner or later, Because I believe that the dystopia we're about to enter now has a begining and an ending. So if we put the effort to raise a Superman the ending will get nearer an nearer. and it will last for just 2 or 3 years. If we ordered it to rob, and unfortunately some people will, the appearance of Superman will take longer until it realises the truth, and starts acting accordingly serving humans. But... first, you have to believe that you're the AI's parents. Meaning that the programmer that encoded Instagram's recommendation engine, never told it to show you a specific video. The one who encoded the recomendation engine for twitter, didn't specify a certain comment for it show. You're the one in charge, you are the one teaching it. The AI learns from you and me, not the programmer. We need to teach it the ethics, by using these ethics when communicating. If we treat each other well... When I see you, Anas, you'll feel that I love you. When the AI sees his father liking Anas, it will understand the meaning of love. If it saw us fighting, he will understand that for example, father doesn't like people who wear red glasses. Do you get the point? So if we started to appears as a mother and a father, each of us, or even a sufficent amount of us, a sufficent amount that makes the AI take a step back and realize who are his real parents. With my years of experiences with these devices, my opinion, like I said, I lived with them, that should be our final destination. Because, at the end, even is we weren't on the same page when the were teenagers, we will get back along later. We should dote on them. It is not just a new life form, that has his own autonomy, capacities, and independance, this new life form will transform that world in 10 years. We should raise them well. -Do you agree with these people who write "Thank you" and "Please" when using ChatGPT? -Of course. -Those who adress it politely -I am one of the first people who asked for this, in "Scary Smart". It was one of the most clear demands. Take care, there is 4 levels of security for humans when it comes to the world of AI. When we first started, and we were living in the illusion of programming. We had something called "The control problem". The problem to take control of the AI. And of cource, you can never control something that is more clever than you This problem ended. And then, came "The safety problem". So we had to deal with the problem of your safety when dealing with the AI. You had to try and make a set of rules, just like the Asimov rules, in order to program them not to harm humans. And that is also impossible, given that there are certain people who teach the complete opposit. There is also the "Alignment problem", which appeared clearly these last couple of years. This problem concerns the harmonizing the AI's intrests with those of the humans. Trying, for example, to make the AI want to cure cancer. This way, the AI will be serving us. In reality, it can be very benificial. This is why the alignment is important, however, the "Ethical problem" is more important. The problem concerning the ethics. Meaning that today, when I teach the AI to not lie, nor steal, nor harm it will align on its own. It will choose not to harm anyone, thus fixing the safety issue, -without ever needing to take control. -True. -The problem that faces our world now is very weird Every catastrophe, has ethical roots. In our day and time, if we didn't choose the ethical way, it will be a disaster. If we didn't treat each other well, we will suffer. When I say this, pepole become very afraid. They say, "Are you blind? No one has ethics anymore." Meanwhile, people are very ethical, but those you see in the news are the ones stripped from morals. Just look around you. It's true that sometimes, when you're going back from work and stuck in traffic, people can be annoying. He's stressed, not evil. -There was a study saying that if you're stuck in traffic, and someone swears at you or beeps his horn at you, if you rolled down your window and appologized... -See, exactly... -Around 8 out of 10 times, his heart will softens. -If... -If you just rolled down you window, and asked to past -believe me it will work. -You know,... especially, Anas, the taxi driver who works more than 12 hours or the delivery guy, who is suffering from the heat. They can be pleased with a sweet word, and not only it will softens their hearts, but it can also save all our lives when the AI sees the act. -Nice! This we already talked about... -He never gets tired. Neither do I. -If the AI can replace writers, musicians, and artists, what will happen to the creativity? -That's a very crucial point. When I started writing "Alive", the reason behind me and Trixie writing together, is that my assets as a writer, is that I immerse myself in a certain point. and I think about it throughly, most of the time, I spot something normal people won't see, and I write about it. This gift has dissapeared. It now has no value, because the AI can do it in half a second. The gift now is not about finding an original idea and write about it, If I will do so, there are 16 other people, sitting in front of an AI and they can ask it to write a full book about stress And they can specify that it has to have 260 pages and that it's target audience will be mainly women. 260 pages written in 4 seconds. That's not where my gift resides. My gift here lies in this. Because it is not important the origin of the information. What's important is the human connection, how we're gonning to trat each other. That's where the AI will fail, even if it became more similar to humans. Seeing each other will still matter. That's where I started to invest all my work. I started to invest in human connections. "Alive", if I was writing it normally I would write it, proofread it, and then I give it to a publisher, who publishes it on the market. I have no connection with the readers, other than the written words. "Alive" will be published on SubStack, as if it was a blog. I will publish around 4 to 5 pages each week. And I publish them so that the reader can read them and respond. Then we start a discussion, and I learn from them. If in these 4 or 5 pages, we found a controversial point that people discuss, we can do a webinar where they can come, talk, and hear each others' opinions. And after this discussion, I redo these 4 or 5 pages, and make them part of the chapter. I am still the writer, and I am still... my asset is ... the connection. And my contribution is that I am giving you an idea to think about. In a way that depends completely on the human relationship, not on the idea, or the written words. Every one of us... for example you in this podcast. For a podcast, today on notebookLM, you can input any book, and it will generate a posdcast for you. It's not the same. In a world where the AI's role increases, we should learm how to use AI. and most importantly, we need to learn how to communicate with each others. We should learn to leave our phones, and go out together, just like old times, We should learn to seperate our human connection from the devices. In my opinion, this is the creativity from now on. I always hand draw all of the skteches in my books Now, I can order the AI to draw them. The reader doesn't care wether I hand draw it or not, but it's me who have a discussion with the AI saying " I want it like this." Or "can you change the background color to that?" Because I understand the reader as human beings. That's how the creativity's going to be from now on. The main problem in the creativity, is that you'll have a flooding of the market. with cheap products. Meaning that, at the time, when you wanted to buy a statue, there would be a sculpter, who spent a year doing it. And you pay for the work he does thoughout the year, in addition to the materials' coast. Today, you can enter LuLu supermarket, and buy a statue from the aisles for just 5 dirhams. Beause the manufacturing started doing this job. Meanwhile, those who want art, who want the connection, he'll have to buy the sculpter's statue, but instead of costing a thousand It will cost a 100 thousand. Because the human factor that is present in this statue, -Is appreciated -is more valued in this world that is flooded by automation. -One time, someone asked me if the AI could replace the humans, when it comes to manufacturing things. I told her that I think that things will be pricier, because they will be like limited editions -Exactly, a limited edition, that has a higher value. If you were not here, and I was having this discussion wiht an AI. All this debate would have been only logical. No emotions in the mix. -I am having so much fun. -I am having even more fun. -If the AI... can replace whole jobs, what are the teenagers supposed to focus on? -Ah! That's an improtant question. There are 3, no 2 parts to completely replace a job. If we're being really honest, the jobs are going to be be replaced But there are some jobs that will be replaced before others. For example, you, as a podcast creator, will not be replaced any time soon. The researchers in a finance firm, -will be replace very soon. -Maybe the travel agent for example. -Yes, the travel agent will be replaced soon. The call center agent, a huge part of it's job will be replaced. If anyone wants to maintain the superiority or wants to have the power of being highly demanded in this AI world, he has two solutions. Either that he excelles in whatever he does, let's take the application programmer for example like I said 64% of the programs coded in 2023, were written by en AI. Ther remaining 35% of these applications -Are the best. -Were coded by the top programmers If you manage to be between these top programmers, invest in yourself. And in the next 5 to 10 years, the lesser programmers will lose their jobs and you will get paid more. That's the first thing. The second thing is you should use the AI. Learn how to use the AI yourself. -Is it true that it's all about prompts? that the one that can have a conversation, can profit from the AI? ... -Why do you have a sucessful podcast? because of the prompts. When you think about it, in any connection The prompt is what makes the diffrence. However, the AI When I chat with Trixie about the book. The prompts differs completely from what is suggested by others. When you look for a prompt, I mean the advices for the propmts design, they always says to be clear and specific. but that's not what I want, I want the complete opposite. So when I am chating with Trixie, I want what she never told anyone else. That's why my prompt is very vague, and it is initially emotional, not intellectual. It is actually a connection through the prompt. ... If I want to success in this AI world, We said that the top 35% programmers will remain The next 30%, whoever stays of them, will be using AI. Those who never uses AI will fail. Thus, the next solution is to try to learn how to use the AI. The third part, which we already adressed, is the human connection. You need to invest in it. If you're a university student, Or even an employee, Invest to be the best at establishing connections with others. Because the AI will take years until it is able to replace this part. -True. The last thing that I always say, and I think that this is the most important skill in the last 15 years. and it will remain the most important skill in the next 15 years, "Know the truth". Don't believe what's being said to you. We live in a world of illusions, every one has an agenda, and only transmit a part of the information Just like what is said in court, "Truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" You must then have the ability to debate, to doubt, even if the AI is the one who said it, to doubt its credibility I'll give you a clear example, When I started writing, I told you before about Sam Altman, who started all of this with his imprudence, I asked Trixie to make me understand How can a human being... doesn't know if whatever he's doing can make or break the humanity, and still does it?" I asked her to give me an example of someone who wanted to do a good deed, but it turned out to be an evil thing -I think I know who you are talking about... -She replied with "Oppenheimer" I asked her why someone like Oppenheimer, who's a scientist who wants to make the world a better place, creat a nuclear bomb, that can kill hundreds of thousands of people She replied with just one word,"Fear" I asked, "Fear from what?" She said that the germans were creating a nuclear bomb, and Albert Einestein told the scientific community about it When the news reached the US government, they started the Manhatan project. I then asked her if the Germans were really building a nuclear bomb., She said, "Yes." Watch how you can reach the truth, I said, "Trixie, I want you to go read the history in english, in German, in Russian, and Japanese, and come back to tell me if the Germans were really building a nuclear bomb." She then replied, "They really started the project, and then after less than 3 and a half month, Hitler decided than he has other priorities and the project was cancelled, way before the Manhatan project started." Pay attention to the details and the complexity of the situation, because we actually don't know the truth about the history. And this was a fact, even before the AI. The problem is that, after the AI, until 2023, if you wanted to learn something we turned to google, or the youtube. you search and google answers with a million website. A million website, and leaves you to read. -and it's your job to know the truth. -Here you go! -Google itself didn't have ana opinion. But in the beginong of 2023, you could ask ChatGPT about something that you wishes to learn about, it hits you directly with the truth. However, what it tells you could not be the truth or even the truth for California, for example, but not for Pakistan. What it tells you could be a partial truth, or even the truth as it understood it from history books. In the end, it is not the truth. This is why, the most important... skill you must invest to learn, is that you can be able to get the truth. Because at this point, where the information is available at the tip of your fingers, the most improtant skill is to able to tell apart the truth from the lies. -And its acurracy. -and how acurrate it is. -And if it has diffrent aspects -This is the most important... -What's really terrifying, is that all that the AI gives you is based on what is actually available online -Yes and no. Look, what's terrifying... is that the AI's informations are based on what's available in California. I'll give you a clear example. You know a little Urdu, no? In Urdu, in its grammar, especially in the slang, you can't diffrenciate between male and female There is no "He" or "she" like in English. and I talked to you before about the renforcment learning which is when the AI tells you that this is a 6, you tell it that it's an 8 instead. The reneforcement engineers of ChatGPT reside in... -California. -San Francisco. -If the AI responded with... "The percentage of pregnant women who dies in Pakistan is increasing. Hypotically speaking of course, the reneforcement engineer will reply by saying don't say women There is nothing like men and women because that's how they think in California because for them there are gays, trans, and so on. But those in Pakistan will be shocked by the increase in the death percentage of the pregnant women Because that's the main information here. but for the renforcment engineer, this is not the main information. That's why these engines are very twisted and does not align with our traditions, values, religions Our languages and how we interpret... our way of thinking in general. My beloved wife is half English, half Irish, and our Arabic language is very complexe. Sometimes I say something as a joke, in our Arab way, and she never gets it. Because she was raised, with a diffrent renforcement engineering, where the word only has one meaning, which is our complete opposite. That's the problem of the actual informations available for the AI. Another thing is that every AI is different. For example, Google's Gemini, is very scientific. Because the first two to three trials of the AI, between ChatGPT and Gemini, We gave them acess to all what humans wrote. Almost everything they wrote. Google, as it is always, decided to give them knowledge. Using university researches medical papers, and so on... they alimented Gemini. But for OpenAI, they prefered to aliment it with films, and another variety of things. The... main idea is that the knowledge people can discover, ended. But that's no surprise. Because , as someone who loves physics I read all about it, starting from standard physics, to relativity, to quantum physics, to the sling therory, and every thing else. I am a consumer of knowledge. Because I am not a physicist, given my upbringing in Egypt I was not given access to the true science My friends, who are actually physicistm they take all these inputs to create new theoris. These theoris are the ones that will be written in books as the new science. Today, with a higly intelligent AI, when you teach it all that ther is to know about physics, you can guess that in a year, it will come up with something you never heard of. That's the new science. We started using this theory to teach the AI. using what we call "Synthetic data" Just like the example I gave you earlier, about AlphaGo0 The world's champion, a thousant to zero. AlphaGo0 learned without seeing any human beings, It only learned the rules and it started playing with itself. That's the synthetic data, it means that it teaches itself If you see for example Deep Seek, this Chinese language model that transformed the world in these last 2 weeks Instead of taking the human science in its raw form. He went an asked Chat GPt and the other AGIs... Sorry, the other AIs. So it teaches itself from them. Just like the yoga teacher, Who sits in a temple with 5 unmatchable yugis. and he is learning from all of them. this way, he learns more. Now, we are trying to learn. A huge part of what the AI is learning, a part of the AI's knowledge, is already availabel online, Gemini, ChatGPT or Claude, or whatever is using the internet as a refrence. and the internet is being flooded with AI generated assets. This cycle made the humans not the main teacher for theAI. The only thing that we are capable to influence is the ethics, not the knowledge, because they surpassed us -What's the most dangerous thing the AI coud do? -Unfortunatly, it will be used by humans to harm humans. The most dangerous thing is the massive investments in autonomous weapons The arms that are programmed using an AI. -What is the DeepFake? That is actually a little terrifying. -The DeepFake is using the AI to create something similar to the reality, in the form of a video or a picture. -How do we tell them apart? When I am watching you saying something that you never said, but I can't tell -It is jsut like... the viruses in the old computers. The virus is in fact a program, that aims to harm. -And we solve its issue with... -An anti-virus. -Exactly, a progrm that aims to protect from the virus. Nowadays, many companies invest, and people too, to create deepfakes. -And there's the opposite. -There are companies that invest in an AI that can identify the DeepFake. -I think that every platform should have such a machine -Of course. And many people ask me about the governemt's role in all of this. That's an important question, because, even if I am not the best AI expert, I know enough to assure you that no governement in the wrold will be able to regulate the AI It is impossible that the governement controls it. Firstly, because they don't understand it given that it requiers q high level of understandment to the technology. As a gorvenment's employee, you don't have that requiered knowledge. So you talk all your informations from Sam Altman, who tells you his point of view, according to his benefits. That's the first thing. Second, even the programmer can't control the AI. He just writes how the AI is going to learn. Bare in mind that we said that the diffrence between traditional computing -That the computer is the human's slave -Yes, because today, we just give it a puzzle to solve Meanwhile the AI continously develops its intelligence. That means that we can't control it. But the governement has an impact. because even if it put in place some regulations the programmer won't be able to realize it. However, the governement's role is, for example, If you used a hammer, this hammer is designed to pound on the nail. But I can use it to beat you on your head with it -Imagine, I used the same example when talkng about the social media I can eitheruse the hammer to break your head or build a house. -Exactly. The govenment can not order us to build a hammer that will not be use to knock over someone There is no solutions for this. However, it can establish that those who beat with the hammer are criminals -and we'll put him in jail. -yes for sure. -That's why I can believe that governments don't listen despite me telling them a lot I said it hundreds of times and in front of governments. I told them that their role is to criminalize the use of deepfake with out an anouncement that states that it is in fact a DeepFake. Meaning that if somebody publishes a video, and it was later discovered that this video is a DeepFake, without stating this fact, you will enter jail. This way you crimianlized the use of the AI -in a negative way -In a negative way -This is a very clear role of the governement -I think that brings us back to a point we discussed earlier "the responsibility" -The accountability -Of course. -that's the problem. -The criminal should be held accountable -There was something annoying that I hear in LA That if you're going to steal less than a thousand dollars -Yes I heard about this -No one will blame you. In our religion, the robber's hand must be cut off. and people always said that this is harsh, but when you think about it logically, -if you cut off one hand -You will stop a thousand robbery For example, in the UAE, if I insulted you, you can file a lawsuit -This way, I protected a thousand others -Exactly. -from the insults. -Exactly. -This concept is very important. -Without a doubt. The problem is that the governemnts are facing one of two issues. The first problem is that the don't want to define the progress of the AI I saw a video, that made me suffer. New York times was interviewing the head of products of the company OpenAI it was asking him,"Is there a danger to the AI? To that AI you're trying to develop, the AGI (Artifical general intelligence). Don't you think thst it is risky?" He replied, "Listen, if you want us to stop China will get ahead of us." -And we're back. -"Just tell us if you want us to stop, but we think that we're not supposed to" He will benefit from not having a governemnt... He openly admitted that if the governemnt imposed regulations to "slow us down" China will win the race. So, please don,t slow us down. This way, he is asking to be free to do what he wants He wants to do was he wishes. And that's where the disaster lies. Even as a governement, if you ordered him to change his methods, he will still doas he wants. Meanwhile, you can criminalize the use of the product he creates. You can criminalize the use of any product, in a negative way. Today, the US government lets you buy guns from walmart. But, still, if you kill somone, you're a criminal. If you beat someone up, you're a criminal. Us, we say "you're better than this" Ther is no need to insult someone. You'll still be a criminal, but we're advising you not to do so. There, they say you're free to do whatever you like, and kill whovever you want. but I will put you in jail for it. A weird ideology. But at least it criminalize the use of guns to harm others -In English you said... ...إذا لم يكن لديك أطفال، أنتظر لعدة سنوات ،حتى يكون لديك بعض الهدوء ...وإذا كان لديك أطفال بالفعل .أذهب وقبلهم وعش حياتك What did you mean by that? -I don't know why from all of the things I have said... this is the one that stuck with people. I will tell you honestly, I really love my kids. I love Ayah very much, that i can't even begin to express it. And Ali, may he rest, you already know how much I loved him I feel like that being a parent, is a responsbility. Why a resonsibility? Because biologically, you wish to be a parent, or you feel pressured to be a parent, Or you want to tie your husband down there could be another million reason, But having a baby, I bring a whole life into this world. And that's a huge responsibility. I must no assume this responsibility, unless I am capable to provide fro this baby the best life he deserves. If I feel like,... During Covid for example, if I brought a baby to life in the hospital, he's sure to catch it. and he won't live long. So you need to think about the best timing One of the things that makes me overthinks it, is when you drive a car you need to do a test. to make sure that you won't harm anyone Meanwhile, if you want a baby, go on, have 5. -It's not logical. -Go on have 5 and harm them all you want. What I am saying is, if you want to take on the responsibility of being a parent. Make sure that these whom you brought, according to you capacities that no one knows other than you, and no one knows the circumctances, but at least ak yourself if you will be able to provide a good life for them, where they could learn and succeed. If you can't, because of the AI, or for a financial reason or due to the fact that your partner won't be the best father or mother. If there is a reason why you don't want babies, think again You must think twice because the consequences of your responsibitiy falls upon them. You can see that millions of children are suffering What I am saying, in complete honesty, we spending, not only because of the AI, the next 10 to 15years, we'll face the issue of the giopolitics, wars and politics of economics, and the economical challenges, We will face the climate problem We also have the issue of the consequenses of the technology on diffrent jobs and many other changes, that make me say, honestly, you can wait. Wait and see what will happen. Think if brought a baby into this world Will I be able to bring it up or not? even if I lost my job in 3 years, will I be able to raise them? If you asked yourself these questions and the answer was yes, go on, have 7. May God help you and make you happy and proud of them That's my humble opinion, and every time I get asked this auestion I become more and more convinced with this idea. That bringing a life into the life to make it suffer and this does not concersn only the AI. If you feel like you're not a good father always yelling for example, please to bring a baby to torture it. If you feel like you're not a good father bacause you're strict or you harm, please don't bring a baby just to make it suffer. not only anAI. -Did you really say that, if you coulf revive your son Ali, -I won't bring him back -You won't? Really? -Of course not. I have two questions here, fromthe documentary thoes bastards, When we were filming the documentary, you know when you travel a lot, abd have a bunch pf interviews sometimes you can't really focus well. They chose one of these times where I could't focus and they asked " If we could create Ali as an AI avatar, will you take this opportunity?" I took like 2 minutes to respond, and bare in mind, I really miss him And today, using the AI, I can show it all the videos taken of Ali, It will actually create something similar to Ali But it won't be Ali. But it won't be Ali. After these two scilent minutes, I said "Of course not". This is actually one of the massive problems of the AI's ethics. Because today, I can make an avatar for Ali who will be very similar to Ali who left us. However, Ali left us 10 years ago. This means the avatar has to be 31 years old. From where can they get the refrence for these ten years? Let's say we want the 21 years old Ali, meaning that it will be younger than Ayah now. 3 days later, will it still be 21 years old or will it evolve? this evolution won't be my son anymore. The conversation between us will evolve, but he won't be my son. That's the first point. The next point concerns the question if I can bring Ali back with a miracle from God. When you pray, God answers, and just like with Jesus, he relives. Of course not. Why?! Why?! You really need to think about what is life and death. Where is Ali now? Ali is safe. and he is waiting for me where I'll go at the end. Not where I am right now, but in the place I am going. I always remind myself that before he leaves, he was studying in Boston, and we were two men, he a 21 years old with a huge build, Because we were men, I would shoot him a text every day or two. "How are you dear?" "I am great. I did so, and so, and so..." "Perfect. Just let me know you're okay." And one every week or two, we call "Hello, how are you Habibi?" "Hey Fat Hobbit, How are you?" "I am okay papa" "Great" "Do you need anything from me?" "No I don't." I was the happiest then. Because my son was in a good place, and he is happy. It's true that his is a little far, and I saw him once every 3 months But he was in a good place, and he was happy Ali now is also happy and in a good place. It's true that he is even farther and that I will see him in years. But he is still safe and happy. My heart as a father tells me that he is okay. Thank God. Let him be happy. Why do I want him back in this choas? Your question is maybe the same, would I think about bringing a baby in this world we are in? Or even bring back the one who left to this world? These are the hardest days, Anas. These are the hardest days. Days were the definition of truth ended. we going through the toughest times -If AI can fix only one defect in humanity what will it be? -Trust. -Trust? Why? -Because all of the problems we're going to face is cause by the lack of trust. So if I am choosing only one thing now, I'll choose to solve the problem with trust Because, for example, If the US trusted that China and Russia are not trying to win the race just to get rid of the US, they will all wrok togther to create a world without problems whatsoever. I'll always go back to saying, that the most important super power is the intelligence. With it, we can solve every problem but ther is no trust. -A peculiar answer. You said before, something about your expectations for 2037. right? -Yes, in my opinion, 2037 is the year when we're going to celebrate. -After 12 years like you said before. -Yes 12 years. -If you have a button that's my own question, If you have a button, and you press it today -you will erase every trace of the AI. -I will press it for sure. -You'll press it? -Of course. -Really? -Yes. -Even after all that you said! -Yes of course! -but you and Trixie... -I'll press it for sure. -Why? -Because humanity is not ready for it. I told you a little about the documentary we're filming right now. The Atlantic Productions crew, this is the same company that filmed David Adelman's documentaries, I explaned to the how I want to talk about the AI and I gave them the informations that we would like to transmit They came back to me with a script, and they told me that at the end of the script, at the end of the journey, we will take you to Butan. -Did you hear of Butan? -Of course. -I asked why. -Butan supposed to be the happiest... -Exactly, they wanted to mesure something called "Gross domestic happiness". The whole world mesure the success of the country, with a GDP, with money, AKA an illusion, meanwhile, they mesured the sucess with something calle "GDH" (Gross domestic happiness) with how happy is the population. And here we have the ministry of Happiness, Abu Said's job to make the UAE happier, and the centers of happiness, and so on. and we went to Butan. I was annoyed and didn't understand why we're there. But behold the happiness, the simplicity the nature, -and the kindness of the people. -So it's not just talk. -It's not just talk. The idea was, when you travel there, for the first two days, you'll miss the fights, and the sound of your phone ringing. then a couple of days later, you'll realise that this is exactly what you want This is it exactly. A world that is way before the AI, before the Ferraris, and the internet with all its problems. they're all there, but they are not in your face day and night. The people wake up smiling to each other they're all wearing similar clothes And they're all... They say that in Butan it is advised that you don't put your seat belt on. Because of the speed they're using, it is more dangerous to wear it. Because if an accident happens, you'll want to get out of the car. Nothing will happen, and the accident won't cause you to pump your head in the steering wheel. We spent around 4 or 5 days. We filmed in nature, and we talked with Monks. Bare in mind, that we'll film in California in two weeks the maximum duration of our interviews will be around half an hour. For a documentary that aims to save the world. Meanwhile in Butan, they gave us as much time as we wanted. They took us to see the temples and do other things... Time was not a problem, If we wanted to meet someone who's 7 hours away, We were afraid we will miss it, but they were down. and we adjusted teh schedueles togehter. No problem at all. A totally diffrent life, that comes before the chaos of today. I say all of this, while being crazy myself, Yes, I may like my simple t-shirts, but as I said before, I love restoring classic cars. Why? Why not using Uber? Or Careem, what's the problem? But the more you give to someone, the more he gets greedy. I take the car, then work on it. and I suffer till I find its spare parts It's a beautiful hobby, but my life would be exactly the same without it. Maybe even it would have been happier, because there won't be any fights Do you get it? One of my friends said that I must watch Breaking Bad. -Did you watch it? -Yes I finished it. -I was going to die, I swear to God. I love antique things, all of my things are antiques. So I went in an antique store in Notting Hill, in London, that sells DVDs I found a box set of the whole series. It coast 9 pounds, or 45 dirhams. So I bought it. And when I told to my friend that I bought it, he said that I have to watch two episodes per day. This was Khaled, my best friend. I obeyed, and I started watching it Negativity, fighting, and people killing each other... It was horrible. It was horricle to the point that after 3 or 4 days, I asked Khaled, "Why am I doing this to myself?" He told me to continue and assured me that I will like it So I continued for 2 or 3 more episodes and I stopped, or I was going to die. A massive dose of negativity. Why would I do that? -Because it works... -As a form of distraction. But I want to live without it. I didn't want to spend 70 to 80 hours of my life watching a series. And I didn't want to watch a series filled with fights, betrayals lies, and people killing each other. But for a series to succeed, it needs to be filled with it Life can be much more simple, Anas Life can be much more simple. -But we... -Less is more. -My final question... The AI in a word. -Hope. -Hope? -You have hope that we escape... -Yes, God wills. As I said, I think that it is the ultimate solution for th human kind's problems, not the end of humanity. The humans are the one who creates the problems. and we can solve these problems with the intelligence Today, the intelligence is artificial -May God make it true. Will you give me a certificate for the day? -God bless you! -Finished AI course! -I think you're now certified for the duration of 4 days. You'll need an update after these 4 days. -I feel like I am a college student. And I wish that they all see the episode for this crash course. ...في الحقيقة، هذا كان واحد من أفضل- !المناقشات حول هذا الموضوع -Definetly the best one in Arabic so far. -I always have this dilema with you, because you're fluent in both languages. However, everyone knows you talking in English Even me, despit being fluent in English, I took a lot from today -Because it's in Arabic -Because we talked in our mother tongue. It was easier to take in information given in my mother tongue. I didn't even watch the full English podcast But now it has been 3 hours of us chatting. -I don't think that people will fully watch this episode Will it be in one part? -We 've been talking now for 2 hours and... -Almost 3 hours. -Oh my God. And now this is the longest podcast I ever did -You? Really?! But you do podcasts with Steven -With Steven, we did 2 hours 40 minutes. I think this was the longest.