do you absolutely love dream are you 12 years old or are you 14 years old and absolutely hate him and call him nightmare either way you land you're in good company because a lot of people love dream and a lot of people hate him they love to hate him quite literally if you don't know who dream is he's this guy Minecraft Youtuber wears a mask makes super cringe music he's obnoxious pretty much insufferable nowadays this is a tough one I can't Pray when you're not there and he's had the most allegations of any Creator I've ever seen on any platform ever throned him over the last couple years and especially the last few months the stuff that has come out against him over the last couple years is of varying levels of severity he's sought to offer explanations to explain away the allegations many different times or just trying to disprove certain things but after recent dramas and controversies have come to light dream decided to go scorched Earth on haters remember the Nicholas cantou thing Gumball you don't understand that you're talking to like a Michelangelo of my time right like I'm a genius Albert Einstein level history bookmaker Gumball versus dream this moment epic thing so funny dude I love the internet POV [ __ ] Nicholas kantus throwing around slurs and we have a a homelander moment from from the boys you know the boys homelander [Music] all right guys big dream updates here okay it's important to note that this is recorded as an update after I recorded the main sections of the video I recorded the main sections of the video which you're about to watch a lot of the debunking that dream does in his video is based on identities of people that are private right so it's like trust me bro versus trust me bro and I will say he did a very good job in my opinion at uh putting this video together it still feels strange the whole thing dreamy and his uh diarama of art for the sake of Integrity I reached out to dream I tried to I reached out to his wrong account he actually reached out to me with the correct account which I thought was hilarious he did that this morning and I asked him a bunch of questions and he answered them I think in a very honest and clear and thoughtful way what exactly did I ask him well I asked for character references uh for some of the people that he used to debunk the allegations for example I learned about the professor who wrote the paper supporting dream speedrun that's a major part of this whole thing why was he the best fit for independently investigating the speedrun what was his thought process for choosing this guy to uh sort of retort against all these people accusing him of this I asked him about manate tre's ex-girlfriend he shared very little all right he did share some proof with me which I greatly appreciate but once again I I need to to keep everything private about all of this stuff because I don't want any of these people to be doxed or abused but those two individual sources that dream provided were absolutely 100% legit and I obviously can't show that so it's just another trust me bro but those two questions were genuinely answered by dream himself reaching out to me someone he he's never spoken to ever and I reached out to him for for comment and you know this is a good sign in my opinion a plus for dream I also asked about his Snapchat and Fan Art page manager I learned who she was what her responsibilities were how long she was a friend of Dreams before she took over the accounts how much time a day she spent scrolling Etc how many posts she interacted with how many times he had to step in to ask her to delete or edit or even unlike a post he was very clear with all of this information I greatly appreciate that but once again a lot of it is very private so I cannot share it because I don't want her to get destroyed also asked about the prior Snapchat manager in 2020 the person who ran the Snapchat before the current one the claims were verified that she ran the account and she did so responsibly absolutely 100% verified Beyond just dream saying trust me bro which he didn't literally say that you guys know what I mean the main sort of question which I expressed great interest in and wanting answered after recording the the final chunk of this video was who are the other people in the car with Nicholas Cantu because that's like the biggest sort of event that's happened recently and uh there were two other people a guy and a girl a guy was on dreams right a girl was on his left they are both small content creators that he had met at a person's party okay dream said he had no contact with these people after that night other than when they messaged him to say that Nicholas was lying they asked to remain completely Anonymous and they weren't even comfortable with Nicholas canu knowing that they were the ones recording because he was threatening them legally and I have a video of all these texts and everything corroborating all this he said he would pay their legal fees if he sued them and that's why they s yeah it's legit I mean it's it's that aspect of this entire thing is completely legit dream is not in the wrong versus Nicholas kantu he also sent videos of Snapchat messages and stuff with from the the original people in communication manat Tre I mean there's a lot of corroboration here all in all this is a good response okay I still think there are some inaccuracies and things that are going to come out but to sort of double down on what I just said there are actual real evidence of people owning up to their mistakes since Dreams video came out for example the burner 22 account one of the main parts of this entire video completely deleted cheesec cat 25 someone spreading lies about dream completely deleted qu loone completely deleted dream even pinned a comment to his video the burner account burner 22 tweeted that they were unsure about the reliability of their claim after seeing my video and then as of 400 p.m. EST time deactivated their entire account I'm assuming this is their only further comment and that was one of the most viral of all allegations against dreams so I I really implore you guys to think as rational as possible and not use sort of preconceived biases and Notions uh to to sort of go through this I know that I don't like Minecraft YouTubers and I think a lot of content creators are cringe I think I'm my content's ass and terrible very different person in real life than I am uh on the well I'm very similar in terms of my personality but like I don't give a [ __ ] do you know what I mean do you know what I'm saying for the sake of all this and hopefully doing what is right I think you guys should know my opinion and that is this is uh legit I mean this is legit it's from the horse's mouth backed up by evidence that I unfortunately cannot show to respect people's privacy I'm not going to leak anything I'm excited to see how this unfolds and hopefully the truth shall Prevail by the way if I got anything wrong or if you guys have proof of anything please comment down below this is a massive Mammoth of a video and a mammoth of a situation and there's a lot of moving parts and it's difficult to uh you know kind of piece everything together especially during the holidays it's it's just a confusing I'm also moving and [ __ ] so this is a bad time for this to bad time for this to happen but there are some inconsistencies and things that don't add up but those will uh uh be built upon in the future I'm sure and I'm sure everything will become 100% transparent soon enough let me know if I'm blatantly missing anything or if there's anything new that's coming out down in the comments below and enjoy the rest of the video please dream's been going through a rough time lately he's had a bad couple months everyone seems to hate him on the internet at this point and he decided to release an extremely long video to address all the controversy that he's going G through over the past few years while providing as much evidence as he possibly can to prove the false nature of all the allegations against him in his video at the same time trying to dismantle the claims against him he tries to highlight a double standard when it specifically comes to him being the bad guy being this punching bag for the internet for example it seems that people willfully ignore evidence vindicating dream due to their pre-existing biased against him because they want and or need dream to be the bad guy those same people will take any evidence against him as fact no matter how shoddy or full of holes it may be that most of the evidence against dream honestly is just none of it would ever hold up in court it's just like fun internet drama that you can be like oh yeah this burner account posted it haha look at dream he is he's cringe let's celebrate his downfall there's a fly flying around me I think I'm rotting dream tries to accomplish these goals of dismantling 100% of everything in one video and in doing so he has to go into details of his life that he claims he prefers he would never have had to go into in this video I'm going to be very vulnerable open and honest I go into my past I go into controversies and I also debunk very serious lies about me including by involving the police legal teams and extensive research it will get uncomfortable I will get into details of my life that you probably don't want to hear and I don't particularly want to share either but it feels necessary given the circumstances and honesty and Truth is my top priority at the top of the video there's a few things that have jumped out to me that I think are sort of strange and I don't I don't know exactly what the point of them uh would be to include in the video or this specific way of going about the video I it I guess it makes sense but at the same time it uh contributes to my existing anti-dam bias I'm not an extreme dream hater but I do think he is very cringe I've got to say I do think he is very cringe I'm cringe I think the main thing I don't like about dream is that he just really likes himself a lot and I think when people think that they're really and and they're both boys it bothers me like when when dud like are checking themselves out you know it makes me want to just like like hurt them does that make sense I don't know the things that jumped out to me as strange are as follows this isn't your typical apology video or video that seeks to address rumors and allegation clean and cut for example qu's video about his whole Fiasco that happened a few months ago it's not dream talking to the camera with a rough idea of what he wants to say it's it's an incredibly High produced and very edited visually engaging video picture art diarama even with background music to emphasize tone and evoke emotion uh from the viewer I think in the context it feels manipulative I think this sort of thing is fairly candid in nature but this is just from the top this is just my initial reactions to what I'm watching here it seems a bit insincere it seems like a classic YouTuber mistake although this kind of changes throughout the video it makes more sense this thing takes on a life of its own it is a mammoth of a video and you see the video is an hour and a half long it has to be engaging to the viewer it has to be a good solid thing that people are going to want to watch and uh and pull from Etc plus with the editing and production it could potentially help people get a more full understanding of Dreams evidence this is sort of what he says in the description of his video see his topics are not D these lies will sped to hundreds of millions I can only do my best to make sure the tooth can be consumed as easily as possible this guy's like the Jeff Bezos of YouTube he's so concerned with the truth also people always ask about this kind of stuff the video is monetized but in the video he States the proceeds will be going to the joyful Heart Foundation um mud can you double check this for me he did the face Lake thing and it turns out he was that that kid he lied about that he was the little uh the little chubby kid from from Florida he said that he lied about this not being him out of embarrassment because he didn't want to uh know no longer be anonymous until he was ready to no longer be anonymous he wanted his face reveal to be his own thing that he could sort of pull off and then and then uh I guess profit from it a lot I'm not sure the fa leak photo was me of course it's from when I was really young and I've lost a lot of weight since then and it wasn't at all representative of what I look like now but it was me obviously I said many times that it wasn't and a lot of people have and still do use that against me to say that I'm dishonest but the reason I lied about that is because of the face reveal I'd been planning the face reveal for years I sacrificed so much but by staying inside and avoiding cameras for so long I mean I had covers on all my windows and even to go to the dentist I left hiding in the back of a car and went to a different state yes I was paranoid I wasn't going to let anyone take that moment away from me whatever I had to do to make sure that moment was suspenseful and exciting I'm sure I would have done it was a big deal I mean his face reveal was a huge thing he says he wasn't ashamed of how big he used to be uh but he is also proud of his weight loss Journey he even showed pictures of when he was much heavier he looks good he looks like he he really turned his life around um and it's pretty impressive I'm very proud of my weight loss story and I was never ashamed about it at all I think that it's very encouraging to see people accomplish weight loss I did it all naturally I lost hundreds of pounds you have not seen me at my heaviest and it's one of those things that I think is very encouraging to others I love inspiring people so it's a story I'm sure I'll tell in the future but in that moment it was not the right time to tell it now because of this lie people use this as a basis for uh you know reasoning as to why he has been a liar in the past he has a track record of dishonesty it's evidence that dream cannot be trusted which that's not really fair I mean it makes sense like this is a valid explanation in my opinion now we have the speedrun fraud he also lied about this and points to this as another frequently pulled example that people use of him being dishonest to disprove him for everything that he stands for and just call him untrustworthy he says it was an accident he apologizes about the mod thing this is all [ __ ] old news he apologized for lashing out and acting like a baby which he did absolutely act like a massive baby I'm going to be pretty concise with this one because it's been covered a million times and most of you are probably pretty sick of hearing about it but it's still really important to talk about it's one of the most frequent reasons people point to as to why not to trust me I did unintentionally cheat on a speedrun that I officially submitted to the leaderboards in 2020 and the speedrun mods were completely on the right for taking it down I was using a disallowed mod for about a week on my live streams when a new version of Minecraft came out and I was unaware that this mod existed when I was defending myself I didn't know that I'd been using the mod and it's a really complicated and lengthy explanation of how it's very reasonable that I didn't know that I had the mod I'm still fully responsible for my behavior back then towards the moderators regardless of my intentions and I did act like a little baby and caused a majority of the problems myself so I'm sorry regardless of if you believe me or if you think that I'm being dishonest since this all happened over 3 years ago a lot has changed since and I've done my best to move forward and grow as a person he was completely unaware of the altered drop rates and trades dude what that's just like absurd but he used a very effective way to defend himself in my opinion which is by using Carl Drops video in which Carl did a deep dive researching dreams cheating scandal and even he Carl found that he belied dream and and believe that it was in fact done unintentionally in conjunction with all of the evidence I've seen I believe the essence of what dream was claiming in his past bin was probably true in my opinion it is definitely more likely that he really didn't know his drop rates and barter rates were modified was it intentional and I do believe that it probably wasn't and to speak to Carl even further there's the whole open hand Foundation investigation that's been happening recently with him and mudahar and dra completionists and if you believe that he's honest in that investigation which I do I think there's no reason to question his Integrity in regard to dream people who have done way more research than me and you believe that it was done unintentionally so we have two lies that are in part explained away to just sort of add self validation to the cheating scandal he says he apologized to the moderators both publicly and privately he removed his speedrun times even the ones that weren't related to his scandal he hasn't even speedrun since then it's been over 3 years he also donated 50, to the speedrun community hey man you can't buy them they're they're they're very tough people he even talked about the [ __ ] Astro physicist he hired to vindicate him that is so ridiculous bro yeah that's right he he hired an astrophysicist to vindicate him over a Minecraft speedrunning Scandal what world do we live in I didn't hire a fake astrophysicist to defend me which is also commonly said knowing nothing about math but fully believing in my innocence at the time given the accusation was purely based on math I used a website for math Freelancers and reached out to directly to a highly qualified Professor that said they'd be willing to help me they even made one of their conditions before agreeing that no matter what their conclusion was I had to publish their results even if their conclusion was that I was guilty I agreed to this dream briefly explained the situation and the expert agreed to help the expert provided dream with a few terms one of them being that dream post the results no matter the outcome obviously their report ended up getting ripped to shreds but I had no idea that would be the case I knew absolutely nothing about math and I fully believed in my innocence so when a highly qualified third party was agreeing with me it made me even more confident and bold the astrophysicist report ended up just being massive [ __ ] the dude didn't understand Minecraft at all he got completely torn to pieces to double down on transparency though dream included screenshots of every email that he sent between himself and the professor who did the thirdparty analysis of his speedrun 10 screenshots 20 plus emails it's kind of AIC there was many factors as to why the report ended up being bad partially due to the public pressure and it being rushed partially due to them not knowing as much about Minecraft as the mod team did but regardless I didn't bribe or make up a fake astrophysicist which is something people frequently say the speedor mod team and many other parties independently verified their credentials and the fact that they exist I also put way more information in the description on this just for transparency sake including proof about the professor all of my emails to them and even screenshots of messages that I never provided in the past I think that's really important to clear up because it's used very very frequently to say if you will go as far as to make up a fake astrophysicist to lie how far will he go with other lies and I would just like to point out that even though I didn't lie lying about a Minecraft speedrun is very different than lying about very serious allegations and at this point I believe that that he unintentionally cheated in the speedrun thing I don't really give a [ __ ] about that that does not make me dislike him and I also do not care about the the lying about being a chubby child thing that makes sense too this was one of the first more serious allegations that dream addresses in his video the next thing I'm going to talk about is a pretty big one that you might not have heard about but it's a pretty important one manat Tre housing and abuser dream a while ago housed a person named manat treed who was accused of being an abuser and then dream was accused of housing him and defending him both of those things were true but he gives his context and reasonings as to why he did those things manri was a childhood friend of dream even though he denied it at the time he is honest about it now he added him to the S&P dream was still Anonymous at the time so manat treed also needed to stay Anonymous to protect dreams identity and privacy manre had issues in 2020 like homelessness dream offered to help him manri lived with him he paid for his groceries he came up with his name he brought him on to the S&P server essentially handing him the [ __ ] Willy Wonka golden ticket of just easy YouTube money even built his social medias he seems like a pretty nice friend honestly I wish I wish he would have done that for me to be honest the big problem here is that dream's knee-jerk reaction was to defend his friend and he even called people gullible for believing these allegations the allegations also claim that dream knew about it and was hiding it intentionally although dream does offer screenshots showing that the offense happened just over a year before dream brought manate treed into his home or even onto the server so the uh actual bad thing the allegations refer to the offense happened before dream how the man we can see it here after I confronted manat treat in real life he claimed that he wasn't an abuser that he had just had an altercation with another guy and that his ex-girlfriend got in the middle of it he claimed that he never hit her that he had just caught her cheating and was fighting the guy that she was cheating with that the cops got called and that he got arrested this is just what he said this altercation would have taken place around a year before he moved in with us and I had no knowledge of it people thought that domestic violence took place when he lived with us because my address was on a court document of his but that was Far after when he was on probation and had to tell the court where he currently lived he also lied to us and told us that he was on probation for smoking weed in order to not have us question anything suspicious related to it and bro lost a lifelong friend because of all this makes sense good good good not a good dude now my favorite part of the dream lore third [Music] traps this is a controversy that's very serious all right guys he allegedly posts thirst traps for underage fans if this is true very bad at the start of him addressing these allegations there's so many fing allegations by the way this is absurd I cannot imagine having this many allegations what is he this is got to be the first time in history someone has been so hated by a uh such a large group of people for just a bunch of [ __ ] that's like never existed before now in the modern internet era yeah I guess it has never existed yeah this is the first time this has ever happened though at the beginning of him addressing this he asks for people to give him the benefit of the doubt which is an interesting thing to do in the very beginning of uh trying to uh exonerate yourself from something bad hey man give me the benefit of the doubt I'm going to play a clip from moist critical who talked about the allegations pretty neutrally to his credit but while talking about them he said this dreams audience has always been on the younger side of things and yet dream constantly engages with them in very inappropriate ways such as like posting thirst traps he does post thirst traps even knowing that his fans are children so when these claims come out I think a lot of people start to take them at face value because they're like oh that that sounds like the dream that I know uh you know this sounds like something dream might do so it's probably true even though right now a lot of the evidence backing it up isn't the strongest now before I talk about this I just want to asked that if you're watching this and you share the same opinion try and give me the benefit of Doubt genuinely listen to what I have to say and discard your preconceived biases cuz yeah if you think someone's creepy and then they're accused of being a creep it clearly changes how you think so I'm going to break down multiple things that Charlie said because I respect him I respect his opinion I think he's a super reasonable guy and I think he's an awesome content creator one of the things that he said is that I post creepy pictures and thirst traps he does post thirst traps so that's the first thing I'm going to talk about the example that he gives is that if you think he's a creep and and someone says that he's been creepy then you're more inclined to believe the information based on your preconceived notion of his character uh which is pretty Elementary and makes sense since his face has only been revealed for a year he says he can show essentially every photo he's ever posted online which is interesting because they just start scrolling by and he shows there's mostly spam posts [ __ ] that he uploaded to Snapchat Snapchat places an ad every six photos or so and encourages him to post 100 plus photos a day what the what the how's that even possible he says that this allows for one out of let's say 1,000 photos of him to be taken out of context and to be twisted he uses the dream was taalon account as an example of one popular account who did this and twisted his his good images his innocuous pcks this guy said name a prettier man than me you can't and it looks like dream right it looks like Kim I saw this [ __ ] and I was like man this guy's this guy's going off the deep end this is some funny [ __ ] he then said bark for me I thought that was real I'm going to be honest I thought that was real I thought that was legit I was like man this guy okay this is awesome there was a bunch of people who actually thought that this account was real and posts like this reinforce the idea uh for people who already hated dream in their heads uh about him being a creep and just made people hate him more dream also says that whenever his accounts like fan art or like post 99% of the time that is a person that he's hired to run that fan art Twitter page and his Snapchat doing that and interacting with people I mean I hardly even log into my Snapchat myself and even have someone else completely run the account because there's a manager account feature where I can just post from my personal snap and never even see any of the messages I also sometimes have people say that I'm weird because of fan art account likes from my fan art account so I just want to clarify I'm not the one behind 99% of the likes I've never made that public because it is beneficial for artists for people to think that it's me every time but again when it's being used against me to say I'm creepy I have to clarify hi so I ran dreams public Snapchat since January 2022 there's nothing weird and he doesn't really even log into it um I also run his fan art account and have been since January 20122 as well I'm good friends with dream and the dream team so he thought I'd be a good pick to run it she says she mainly likes the stuff that she finds silly or creative she laughs a lot since she knows dream and his friends and then she engages with this stuff based upon her relationship with these creators she doesn't think that it should be used to paint dream is a creepy guy and also doesn't support NSFW art from or of miners I can hope not before this person ran dreams Snapchat and Fan Art accounts there was another person who ran them in 2020 for about a year and that person also shares the same sentiment although later in the video part of the justification for the reason that he posts a lot of the images and strange thirst trap videos that he does post he claims it's satirical uh where he's just being dumb or he's being self-deprecating he's being quirky really guys he's being fuing quirky a lot of my videos before I did Minecraft challenges were satire videos and I still post a lot of satire a perfect example of this is my UNF reveal I posted a video on my channel where I unrevealed my face it's a satire video I have my two best friends burst down my door tell me that I'm ugly and to put my mask back on which I agree with make a professional mask and then go through the McDonald's drive-through with it on while saying that I'm never taking it off ever again the number of people that took this seriously was in the tens of millions people see the headline assume that sounds like something that cringe guy would do and then it's history and the same thing happens with my Tik toks he claims he's never posted anything online that is remotely a thirst trap this image apparently gets spread a lot of him pretending to be dead people think it's a thirst trap or something it's insanely cringe but it is not what it is portrayed as we've been duped it seems like he's just misunderstood guys he's just misunderstood he's the most misunderstood creator of all time that's if we give him the benefit of the doubt of course do you think there's mischaracterization of his character do you think what people are saying is accurate do you think people intentionally misrepresent him I definitely think they do and it seems seems like that is something to consider from this point on because I've seen a lot of stuff that I thought he actually posted that it doesn't seem like he did I mean like the singing video that's a thirst trap though the [ __ ] singing video where he's singing in the [ __ ] that's a that's that's like a thirst trap I feel like that's a thirst trap right isn't that a thirst that's like why would you cuz he's not like good or anything also he's based in went pill he got his dog in my God it's Smith and Wesson put it in the fire burn it let a piece of [ __ ] thirst trap honestly one of the main reasons I didn't like dream because he I he seems incredibly self-obsessed in the way that he kind of dresses the clothes that he wears he's obviously just a different type of person uh someone that I would never want to associate with in any world but at the same time I'm open to the possibility that he's been incredibly misrepresented I'm not in hising community at all I don't watch Minecraft stuff I'm an old man it's possible this is a big stink Fest and by the way this is a massive deal this is a crazy thing that's happening right now do you think that's valid though that's what I want to know I want to think I want to know what you guys think the next thing dream being weird dream highlights a couple of primary examples used against him to Showcase him being strange or weird one time he called his fans kittens before Discord kittens had really become a popular meme me calling my fan base kittens now this was a stupid tweet if I could go back never would have tweeted it I completely understand that without knowing my intentions or what I actually meant it could seem super weird the whole Discord kittens meme was wasn't as big yet and I just tweeted so much I just wasn't really thinking it came out horribly and I will never live this down it is still something that my friends make fun of me for to this day he apparently did this to represent how he can love his fans but it's sort of different from the way he loves family or friends it didn't age well it's really strange like comparing humans to like these are people that are watching these videos to kittens to me just doesn't really make any sense cuz like a kitten is like a little thing it's like a little sort of almost like an object and you I don't really I mean I don't know right like that's not people aren't K I don't I don't get that very much maybe I'm autistic I don't know his intent was never to be creepy or weird though he claims he Compares it to people who say I love dogs or I love cats but instead he says I love my fans I I love my fans and I like to learn about them as individuals and I I do not try to facilitate parasocial relationships I'm just a regular guy if I had to choose between a kitten or a r random person that watches my videos I would choose a random person that watches my videos because that is a human being with like a life that is going out of their way to contribute to my life in some way and hopefully get something out of it like I I think this is a fairly special thing that we're all uh fortunate enough to do I don't see you guys as kittens or animals that seems like a bad comparison another example of some [ __ ] that got blown up of him being a weirdo is when he sold a dream wristband that had had a built-in flash drive with a bunch of [ __ ] on it for a [ __ ] that is incredibly parasocial I mean this is like the most parasocial merch I've ever seen in my entire life in a weird it has childhood email the does that mean gaming screenshots pictures from his Epic camera memes he saved baby photos man that's [ __ ] weird that's epically creep to BH if you just say dream is selling baby pictures it seems extremely strange he clarifies his motivations for it and they sound reasonable not weird uh after hearing him speak about it but on the I feel like it's still inappropriate and weird he wanted to make a unique piece of merch he compared it to a biography he's aing 20-year-old dude though I it's kind of nonsensical one of the final points he makes to try and dissuade the notion that he is a thirst Trapper or a person that posts weirding strange [ __ ] is comparing himself to Charlie moist critical one of my friends he says that if he posted the images that Charlie has posted on his social medias he'd be called a predator and I mean same for me I've posted some really strange [ __ ] on my social medias as well he says they post very similar photos I think Charlie's audience is of course much older than mine but if I posted photos like these which to be clear if I was ripped as hell like Charlie I would 100% it would be made out to be predatory because it's me when it's not at all and that same standard isn't applied to Tik Tok stars or really anyone else but me just because I'm the Minecraft guy a lot of the photos Me and Charlie have posted are actually really similar it's just people cherry-picking goofy photos of mine and then making them out to be weird when it's just me posting random photos because that's literally part of our job yeah I guess that's all I have to say about that I can see the point he's trying to make but it's not the same at all this is not the same it's just not the same is you guys have completely different audiences Charlie doesn't call his fans kittens uh or say that he loves them like dogs Charlie has an older audience and makes much more disturbing content in general not for children he's literally done like reviews and stuff and like I mean it's just not even it's total apples and oranges this is a bad point I think he also says that people call him creepy or weird for even interacting with fans in the first place which I kind of get that because why not I mean why wouldn't you interact with fans and some kind of or or viewers fans is kind of a stupid word I mean they're like the whole reason that you were at the point like one of the cool things about people like let's say Gordon ramsy is you hear stories of him or Kurt Russell you hear stories of them interacting with people in public and they're like oh man he's a great dude I met him you know and he was just like a regular guy that's fing awesome I don't think it's just naturally weird for people to interact with with fans maybe it is if they're like children and that could be the case for dream because he makes Minecraft videos and he has a rabid Army of little um babies online one thing that I can heavily relate with from dream is when he says he's had fans become friends from different interactions that uh he's had with people I can relate to this 100% my editor Tara since 2019 has been like my main employee she started off by joining my Discord that I created I had a public Discord I got another dude living in my house right now um I met him on Discord Michael he watched my videos and like it's just I'm not like this God I'm a YouTuber bro it's not that [ __ ] serious it's like there's not it's not that serious like to be fair all the fans that I interacted with were all adults of my age who I you know brought into my fold and actually legitimately became friends with I think that's an important difference to make or maybe not difference I don't know if he's like befriending children or whatever that's what people say I don't I don't know if that's true I don't think it's true it's just YouTube I think fans is like a bad word I've Incorporated a lot of that energy that like-minded energy into stuff that I've done sour boys for example my YouTube channel all of my employees are people who are familiar with YouTube in some form or another there's also some big projects on the horizon that involveed people who I found by you know putting out the bat signal on my inter on my social medias I'm a person they are just people so I'm on dream side for that one then we get to the Amanda grooming allegations this one he dives into great detail to try and dismantle and prove as false a person named Amanda came out in October of 2022 claiming that dream groomed her this all started back in September 2020 when his channel was substantially smaller he provides a screenshot of his following at the time a lot of the allegations here hinge on DMS between the two of them dream and Amanda which dream shows evidence of Amanda deleting messages and then provides a transcript of all of their DMS he could download outside of the ones that were deleted beforehand he has a paste bin in the description of his video second allegation came out soon after the first and said that the first allegation was why they were sharing their story it was from a girl that claimed that when she was 17 we inappropriately messaged this did not happen let's get into the details on September 23rd 2020 Amanda messaged me from her personal Instagram account sending a message that was clearly a fan message she thanked me for saving her life and I replied to this message in September of 2020 I was a lot smaller than I am now so I got a lot less DMS and I was much more active in like the fan communities and replying to people and all all I replied was a thank you for the kind words and then I also replied glad to make you smile after she followed up with the message I put a transcript of every Instagram message that I've ever sent her Linked In the description it might not be every message that she sent me because there's proof that she deleted Instagram messages to me an old Tik Tok of hers has messages from me that wasn't in her post with the accus when she showed our messages but my transcript tried to include those and piece it together looking through the messages you can see it's pretty innocuous especially in the very beginning he's just being nice responding to someone who appreciates his content after some exchanges over a few days Amanda tries to use dreams knowledge as a Creator to build her own steam even going as far to ask him to play Among Us with her very suspicious very sus dream even takes days to respond sometimes Amanda on the other hand how are you doing dream September 25th the next day I replied I'm good thank you how are you Amanda the same day replied I'm doing okay could be better could be worse thank you for asking Amanda replied how's your kitty doing I love cats I replied and said she's doing amazing September 28th so 3 Days Later Amanda said dream I need some advice I'm trying to become a small streamer on Twitch but not a single person joins my streams how do I get an audience October 2nd so a few days later I replied and said try and play with your friends maybe post Clips to Reddit and stuff and then she replied and said okay thank you with a heart the next day she messed me again and said dream would you ever consider playing Among Us with me XD I guess this was this was during the Among Us crazy we're still in 2020 October 5th 2020 I replied maybe heart Amanda said LOL I'll take the maybe that would be sick I didn't reply this is a month and a little bit later Amanda said hi dream and then she sent another message that was deleted after she made the allegations but we don't know what it was we only know the last couple characters and again we only know it exists because she messed up and included it in an old Tik Tok of hers we get go to New Year's 2021 and you can really see the dream is disconnected a bit from the interactions with Amanda she wishes him a happy belated New Year's Christmas and congratulates him on his accomplishment and hopes to be Su as successful as him one day then asks what kind of PC he has and he doesn't respond for 11 days and finally says thank you or t even he didn't even tell her what kind of computer he had what a [ __ ] [ __ ] bro January 5th Amanda said again hi dream I just want to say Happy late New Year and merry Christmas congratulations everything you've accomplished this year I hope I am fortunate enough one day to be as successful as you if you could tell me what kind of computer you have that'd be great January 16th so 11 days later I replied thank you Amanda replied deleted message and then part of it was how are you the only time that the conversation seemed to be engaging uh from dream is when they start talking about music he was starting to make his own and it's a topic of interest for him he seemed to get more involved in the conversation here he gives her a Snapchat to add him so he can share music he didn't want to DM using Instagram he wanted to do Snapchat because it's deleted basically immediately he also shares that he was sharing music Snippets with many people you can see by the date musical creativity was clearly in the Forefront of his mind through these other messages Amanda messaged me again and said hi I replied hi Amanda said how are you I said decent how are you she said I'm all right right thank you then she said I heard some Snippets of the song you're working on and I really like it you have a really nice singing voice I replied on April 14th thank you so that was uh the next day um she said you're welcome and then December 26th that was like a long time later she messaged me and said merry late Christmas heart I didn't reply um January 10th she messaged me and said hi my Snapchat was banned and I have no friends how are you I replied two days later and said how TF does a Snapchat get banned Amanda replied and said I'm pretty sure it's because I posted videos of me smoking but all my memories from 2014 are gone so sad I replied the next day and said damn dream then defends against the people that are undoubtedly asking why he'd even bother talking with her saying that she seemed normal friendly and implied strongly that she was overage even though it doesn't matter because nothing inappropriate happened you may be wondering at this point why are you replying to her you seem clearly disinterested you're taking days or weeks to reply and then when you do reply it's very dry well Instagram has a really stupid feature that makes it so that once you've replied to someone's DMS once you can't remove their ability to personally message you unless you block them you cannot be following them you can delete them from from your inbox they can still message you and pop up in your notifications I'm showing an example on screen of my DM continuing to pop up on my Al account just to show how it works obviously given I replied to Amanda back in 2020 when I had a much smaller Community she was stuck in my inbox for the rest of time you can temporarily delete someone from your inbox and it deletes all of your message history to them for you but they can still message you with now a blank DM history so at one point wanting her to stop dming me I swiped her out of my inbox multiple times it's actually completely provable that I did do this I'm showing a video of my Instagram DMS to Amanda now where they start in December of 2021 much later than her original DMS because you can't delete other people's individual messages and you can only delete entire conversations this proves 100% that I was trying to delete her ability to message me in 2021 after he gave Amanda his Snapchat she claims that they started sexting and did that up until February 10th so dream's main defense is that none of this makes sense because of how dry their conversations were and how disengaged he was you know at one point to then just a couple days later them texting on Snapchat that's his defense he also shows that even though this allegedly happened during January February of 2022 in October she was defending him during his face reveal she was also engaging with his other content as well he's just you know she was a part of the community something like that he then theorizes that she became bitter and hateful after the face reveal because he wasn't responding to her messages anymore on Instagram or SnapChat now let's go over her actual claims in detail Amanda claims that after I added her on Snapchat on January 17th 2022 that we started sexting she showed that her birthday when she would turn 18 is on February 17th exactly a month later she claims that we sexed from around the 17th of January the day I added her on Snapchat to the 10th of February and then that it stopped She said that while she was still underage we exchanged nudes her evidence of this was two photos of supposedly me from after she was 18 complimenting her her final important claim was that she traveled to Orlando in August and that we planned to meet up and have sex and I just want to make sure that I blatantly deny this before continuing none of this is true and now I'm going into more detail now unfortunately because she didn't provide any proof proof of these things it's difficult to be specific about some of the things she claimed it's much easier to completely make up that something happened than it is to prove that it never did like if I said right now proved to me 100% that you never sexed a specific person that you've had on Snapchat at any point it would be impossible to do but what I can do is lay out all the inconsistencies talk about the proven lies the specifics point out questions that were never asked and provide all the evidence that I have and I believe that luckily that's way more than enough so from the 17th to maybe February 10th is the time frame where we were sexting so even if we say that it started a couple weeks before it stopped you'd have to believe that every message you've just seen we went from that to sexting days later in 2022 before my face reveal even if you want to give her the maximum benefit of Doubt and say that she confused the timeline she turned 18 on the 17th one week after she claimed the sexting stopped so there's not much leeway secondly we can talk about her Twitter she tweeted out defending me from hate on my face reveal 10 days before the allegations and was liking my tweets including a subscriber Milestone tweet 2 days before she tweeted her allegations with the timing of the face reveal and her allegation my belief is that there was a lot of hate hate and that it's easy to get spiteful and join in on a hate train I had ignored multiple of her Instagram DMS and Snapchat messages in recent months and I had also made a new Snapchat that I didn't add her on I still used my old Snapchat occasionally but I just rarely responded that's my only real explanation for why she flipped so quickly from being publicly positive to me to lying about me but I guess I'll never really know this was after he made a new Snapchat and there was a hate train surrounding him with his face reveal it was just super easy to jump on on board and go I hate dream dream sucks [ __ ] he sucks I hate dream he also points out that she was asked for Snapchat logs which are saved and she didn't ever uh get them because there was nothing like what she was alleging Amanda also alleges that they were supposed to meet up for swword and says that he was going to go to her Resort which I don't even know what the f that means dream counters this by talking to his mom who says he only left the house four or five times in 2021 and then October 2022 is when he uploaded his face reveal dude even like covered himself up with aing blanket to leave and it's she wouldn't open the garage to drive drive he wouldn't come out of the blanket until they hit the freeway it's so it's ridiculous I mean obviously your mom's going to want to protect your boy this is not a good example it's not a good not a good character witness to be honest probably wouldn't stand up in a court of law but some might even speculate she'd be willing to lie to protect her young boy but it doesn't feel disingenuous to me then dream highlights a lot of inconsistencies in what Amanda would say as well like claiming she was going to lie about being 18 but not doing it claiming that she would post proof but not doing it and then saying that while she was typing dream was is deleting her DMS too uh and then he shows that you can't delete the other person's DMS which is true you can't that doesn't make any sense she also said that she was going to lie and tell me that she was 18 but that she changed her mind I guess so I was going to lie and tell him I was 18 she said she would provide proof of the fact that she told me she was 17 and that I still sexed her tomorrow but I didn't and that proof will come out tomorrow and guess what she never posted proof because this never happened she tweeted out thanking people for all the support and CLA claimed at the end that I deleted our DMS right as she tweeted this and specifically said my end too which means her DMS too well I just want to point out that this is impossible there's not a single mainstream social media platform that lets you delete both people's messages and we only had each other on Instagram and Snapchat where you can't do that on either she claimed that she was laughing and was going to prove people wrong with pictures of my P to which again never happened that's true you can't just like delete someone's DMS that isn't how it work the biggest thing she did is threatening to contact the police and then posting a picture the next day of her inside a police station dream got his legal team to track down the police station in the photo and they found out that nothing was ever reported or that there was no evidence reported that met the standard of proof to have an actual case built except the pictures that she posted were from a second phone meaning there was no risk of me knowing she was taking pictures of compliments from a second phone but has no evidence of anything sexual has no evidence of us planning to meet up and have sex apparently from after these pictures were secretly taken has no evidence of a singular inappropriate message from me or her or even anything at all that isn't a story reply from Snapchat's story page of all your friends what's more likely so then we get to the more recent [ __ ] with dream versus Gumball we've come such a long way this all happened on September 23rd 2022 Bro went to a party Nicholas kantu was there he was drunk he was being aggressive on FaceTime he hit dream while talking to his friends on the FaceTime everyone decided to leave the party and get into an Uber Gumball decided to join the in the Uber he sat up front dream Shrugged off the aggressiveness and punch earlier and then thought that that was probably the worst that could happen Gumball lost his phone on the freeway somehow and got out while it was dark the police show up told him to get back in the car Gumball then acts like aing obnoxious idiot and asked the police if they want to conduct a sobriety test the Uber driver convinced them to leave and helped him not get arrested for being drunk and underage and probably having a fake ID in all honesty that shit's rampant in Gumball's drunken State he got mad at the Uber driver and called him a then said that he had Down syndrome and asked him how far he got in his education this guy is Crazy by the way Gumball like both of these people are a very unlikable dream in Gumball but it is crazy that everyone loves Gumball after this like it's fuing insane it'sing insane bro of course I started to get involved in argue with Nick defending the Uber driver and Nick did not like that at all either you're going to be paralyzed going to be dead like I'm serious okay man dreamy explains that someone he had just met was in the car with him recording and and Nicholas kantu said he was grateful someone was recording and he says hit like And subscribe by the way hit like And subscribe the next day Nicholas DM dream and apologized for his nasty rotten disgusting Behavior we've seen these DMS before you guys have seen he says he's sorry for the false allegations and acting the way that he did because he's tweeted [ __ ] in the past and was so [ __ ] stupid you can watch my other video about that if you want dream says that he really did didn't forgive him but he wanted to move on and he felt bad because he knows how child stars are treated in the industry and he thought it would he would just better himself later on Nicholas would become a better person later on the next day Nicholas sent me a very nice DM saying that he was sorry for hitting me that he was having a really rough night and that he was high and drunk and said that he was sorry for spreading false allegations that he knew nothing about saying that he recognized it could ruin people's lives complimented me called me humble grounded and a good human I didn't accept this apology but I I moved on and honestly I felt kind of bad for him I recogn that he was once a child actor and I feel like there's a lot of bad stuff in that industry so I felt a little bit of sympathy I hoped he would just learn from the mistakes he made that night and move on but then of course Nicholas started tweeting spreading the same lies about me that he had already apologized for spreading and recognized could ruin people's lives later on dream asked the other person in the car to send them the videos and proof to defend his side of the story but they said that Nicholas was threatening them he eventually got the videos and that's the [ __ ] that we saw on Twitter recently of Nick acting insane and and you know I mean he needs help like genuinely bro needs help or drink less I'm not sure so we have video proof there of Nicholas being a piece of [ __ ] uh people also thought that the texts that dream had between him and the Uber driver were fake so we got in contact with the Uber driver that night and interviewed him who is the Uber driver who is actually one of the highest rated Uber drivers in Texas which is really cool came to give his side of what actually happened he said Nick was acting crazy dropped his phone and started talking to a cop in a rude manner trell didn't want anyone to go to jail but Nicholas started [ __ ] spouting [ __ ] about IQ and saying he was better this is just it's such gross Behavior dude I really do not like this kid the Uber driver said that the majority of stuff didn't even make it on the tape it was never released Nicholas said that everyone would be would be forgotten as billions of particles of sand while he would be a statue erected in Gold darell said he was very creative for that it's just funny you're going to jail I'm trying to save you from going to jail because I don't want nobody to go to jail period kept saying something about like IQ like he felt like he was better and I was like nobody cares about your IQ there's a lot of people with high iq's in jail right now so what you going to tell him you're going to talk to him and say that you're a child star while you're in jail so I was like I'm trying to help you out I don't want you to go to jail even after you're acting crazy and wild which most Uber drivers would have left you you never said anything negative towards him while he was saying all this stuff majority of the stuff didn't make it on the tape dream then asks if he tipped him that night he said no and he doesn't understand why he would lie about something like that Nicholas tipping the the Uber driver by the way that's some [ __ ] he said that he did the Uber driver then says the dream was nothing but respectful the moment he stepped into the car man it was an eventful night I don't know why a lot of people think that you were the one that was doing all these things and making all this stuff up and you wanted to do all this I was like he was the one that was trying to stop everything the most he says that these are the straightup facts and quite frankly I believe this [ __ ] this makes sense totally makes sense the Uber driver thing I mean in this situation absolutely the party who I like most in a vacuum without any preconceived notions is dream he's not doing anything wrong Nicholas is being an [ __ ] if you take everything else throw it away and you have just this it's very clearly on the side of dream here so so far with this narrative we have dream coming ahead uh pretty hardcore then dream he he addresses the moing allegations it was a video from another phone of a Snapchat being opened supposedly from dream that had moaning in the background and a very sexual caption they also attached screenshots of Discord DMS between Anonymous people who were claimed to be two friends of dreams and said it was them discussing me having a minor in these screenshots they say that I was confronted about it and that I admitted it I've shown you every piece of evidence they posted without changes and I've mentioned everything that they've claimed now just to reiterate this is not true every piece of evidence is either out of context edited blatantly lied about or presented in a very disingenuous way this allegation was not from a victim and was on a burner account the anonymous account claims that dream groomed someone named Jamie and incorrectly said that she quit the internet years ago he posted a vid claiming that it was a minor never showed evidence of that cropped context from screenshots Liden said that they were from him Liden said that the victim gave him permission and caused more harassment to Jamie and on top of all of that the Snapchat isn't even real the video was opened without being tapped and that's just how Snapchats worked on top of that no one even tapped to open the Snapchat there's no finger you can't open snaps with a button but it doesn't even matter because you can see that no buttons were pressed so how did it open nobody touches the screen that one's hilarious the moaning [ __ ] that's so funny uh it is unfortunate that he's getting drug for that because it's so clearly fake and just fabricated and not real but that that one's the having moaning allegations is very funny to me bro was allegedly moaning the burner account also stated that they reported dream to the authorities of his local police department uh he called called a bunch of police departments and asked for them to search the database for reports of him and there's none he couldn't find a single report of himself not even a civil case therefore everyone has lied who claims to report him he then States if you don't believe him he has jimie Giver own statement so I found out who was Anonymous in these messages and let's hear what they have to say these screenshots are extremely out of context and use disingenuously to tell a story about dream that isn't true at all I haven't spoken to dream in a very long time but to my knowledge he's not interacting with underage fans inappropriately or in any way that could be considered grooming these DMS were posted by the burner without my permission and without ever contacting me beforehand they were sent to the burner by a vulnerable person that was upset and being taken advantage of while under the influence of alcohol I want to be anonymous and stay completely out of this because all the terrible stuff I've seen happen to everyone mentioned on both sides is very scary this conversation was Private in my life and no one deserves to have their personal life dug through because of anonymous people making false claims without know or context about anything they're saying this person was not involved at all when dream found out about the burner posting about him he made a tweet talking about how it was essentially unsubstantiated Revenge so just untrue Revenge fabricated that's horrible that's got to be a crime it seems like people took this as an admittance of him moaning in the video when in reality people didn't read the quotations he was this guy's bad at communicating I'm going to be honest been there been there really bad at talking he then States how it has become a trend to fake grooming allegations there's been fake allegations against his friends like bad boy Halo sapnap Carl Jacobs ranoo wil burut and pretty much all Minecraft creators people love jumping to conclusions in the Minecraft community and if you believe that all these other people are innocent why would you believe that the dream allegations are any different is is it because he was he was chubby as a kid is it because he sings poorly is it because he does thirst traps anyway dream goes through the amount of fake allegations that he's had to deal with and it is a ridiculous list of course according to him all of them were disproved for various reasons but they all showed fake evidence from different socials then in an epic 180 this man calls out xqc telling him to come forward about screenshots of text messages and then calls out Pokey man for her cookie drama look at this insane insane [ __ ] tweet and then he says well these are fake messages he did it just in a couple minutes using cap cut and other [ __ ] that he downloaded on his phone you can fake stuff online it's so easy to fake things and in my opinion this is the best point that this [ __ ] makes in his video xqc I know you're probably watching this I want you to address this what do you have to say for yourself it's irrefutable proof look here it is on a second [Music] phone prove to me you didn't send me this video or you're a pervert forever and everyone watching this will now know it or Pokémon you've been getting some hate for your cookie prices recently and I don't mean to expose you but you did say this to me and I think that's disgusting what do you have to say for yourself what more proof do you need I also have the cookies she sent me and a sign note from her this is irrefutable evidence you get the point I made all those pieces of evidence in 10 minutes with only free programs what's stopping anyone from going and making a fresh account faking evidence and then accusing a person they hate of something vile be careful what you believe and ask questions believing real victims is important but not believing fake victims is very important to real victims too after this I saw so many accounts going viral sharing the screenshot of pokem man's cookie uh message thinking that it was real or just I mean it's so stupid it really really truly is a uh AED up world we live in and I think this is a really good example of a apology video uh in the modern era it still feels very odd to me the sort of art diarama thing the incredibly high production value nature of it cuz he's right it isn't just drama these are like serious allegations I have no idea what I would do in his shoes especially with the lack of vindication you're just being hared constantly and there's no way to defend yourself every time you defend yourself people twist it because they just don't like you because you are chubby as a kid and you sing funny or something iing have no idea it it's really interesting though this entire situation is really really really interesting and I want to know exactly what you guys think about it below what is your sort of conclusion dreams conclusion is this as for my conclusion on this video I have a couple things to say first of all I just want to recognize that I'm probably in this position because of myself the people that made these claims undoubtedly had unhealthy parasocial relationships with me and that's why it's gotten to this point I want to and will do anything I can to denounce this my view on fans has shifted slowly over time jumping massively when I face reveal and actually got to meet fans in person which made things much more real and massively changed my perspective I think it's incredibly unhealthy to be obsessive with someone and I also think that it's clear to anyone that's stepping back and looking at these situations that people obsessively hate me and are making up lies about me which is also because of Paras socialness parasocial love turned to parasocial hate and I have no doubt that the anonymous people making these fake allegations were once big fans of mine he doesn't stand with his stands anymore he clarifies that parasocial type relationships are not healthy and they need to be watched he recognizes that it's his own fault and that he's fed into it a lot and because of sort of this there's a a flip side he also has parasocial haters and that's people like me who just been hating on this [ __ ] dream then clarifies his boundaries with NSFW art of him he says it didn't bother him or his friends before but knowing now that these people are drawing them uh in minors it's disgusting and that is absolutely true he says serious shipping is is unhealthy and bad it's pretty disgusting he has to clarify that him and his friend George aren't dating just in in case people were confused about that one I don't support any sexually explicit art of me or my friends it never bothered me personally that much cuz I don't really care about anything but it is just weird especially if you're a minor and drawing anything like that that's gross I don't support anything inappropriate for miners at all art Tik toks comments anything it's gross two serious shipping is bad I think that prying into people's private relationships being deeply speculative or anything like that is terrible I don't mind jokes I don't mind doing it for fun but anything serious really crosses the line again I've always found it funny being shipped with George because we're not dating and we're friends but if you genuinely think that we are dating and it's part of your personality or you obsess over it you need to get off the internet that is not healthy so you heard it here first guys George not found and dream was taken are not dating he says don't obsess over him it's unhealthy don't be a stalker don't be a fan even just be a viewer he then says I'll have someone else running his Twitter while he steps away for a while and he's going to focus on content and just being a content creator and and sort of being healthy over the holidays Etc he doesn't want this whole thing to be negative he wants it to be a positive he wants to move away from the horrors of Twitter and not insert himself into senseless drama anymore and be the internet's punching bag kind of based kind of red pilled I'm going to be honest I think this is the biggest W that dream has had in a very long time this video it's pretty solid it's pretty pretty pretty solid very long very well articulated video from dream I think he does everything he possibly could to dismantle a lot of the things that have been said about him at least the most pertinent things um I think it's weird as that he waited so long to come forward about all this stuff but with the whole Gumball thing sort of makes sense why he had to speak up now because it's just gone too far be cool if he took his own advice it'd be interesting uh there's also more drama um that recently came out more allegations I think and there's probably maybe more that's going to come out of this I don't know I really don't know dude there are a lot of people who are willing to accept his explanations in his video and I'm sure there's just as many if not more who are not going to who are just going to ignore the truth and continue making fun of dream I personally will continue making fun of dream but I think that the response to these things that he's had solid I really do I genuinely believe that I don't know if that makes me aing weirdo it does feel weird I've got to say and quite frankly I think there are some uh rocks that need to be overturned specifically in the description of his video he mentions that content creators can reach out to him to talk to some of the people that he uses as sort of character references in his video and I'm going to do that I want to try to communicate with these people and really find out from third parties whether or not uh this is all valid and above board it seems like it is I sent him a DM we'll see I think if we could have communications from the professor who wrote the paper supporting dream speedrun manat tre's ex-girlfriend the person who was abused his Snapchat slfan art page manager prior manager in 2020 and the person who was in the car with and Nick canant to if we could talk to them without dream being there just like as a pure third party with nothing going on I think this would all be uh nipped in the bud 100% and people would believe him anyways let me know what you guys think