Transcript for:
Assistants meeting 20th September

We have here visitors forms from throughout the month so far that includes the ones from Sunday when Nandi died. Take one gift to each person. Please. I'm sorry, it was just a pass down actually. I'm going to take one and then...

It's okay, it's already done, it's already done. It's my mistake, I said incorrect. Right?

Is it exact? Yeah. Let's pray for these people.

You don't need to read the request. Just to pray for them. Close your eyes please.

Go ahead. Say a prayer for this person that God brought on Sunday. In the name of Jesus, we ask you Lord to grant these people their petition. But don't only grant them what they have asked because many of them do not know how to pray. They wrote a request that maybe it's something very small, something that does not pertain to their soul.

But Lord, you know what is best for them. Above all things, to save them. Bring them into your presence. Cause them to know you.

Cause them to find life. And I give to you these, O Lord. Those who have come since the beginning of the month.

May none of them be lost. May all of them be rescued. All of them be brought into your hand. Into your bosom. Save them, O Lord.

Save them. Those who are under curses. Those who are under attacks, those who can't sleep well, those whose families are in pieces, those who are addicted, whatever evil is in their lives, let them be free right now.

Help them, O Lord. Help them. Find them where they are now.

Bring them back and may they be one of us. May they be one of us, servants of yours. That's what we ask, we pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Yes, my God, we... Call out to you, believing in your word, that as we are your servants, and we are in one faith, one agreement to save souls, that all of these people will know you, they will have you, be saved, they'll be one. In the name of Jesus, amen.

All right, just hand them all down to my wife. Just pass down. Go through this.

Take a seat please. Help us open your Bible in 1 Samuel chapter 17 please. If the assistants want to open as well you may, but for the helpers please. Again if the assistants wish you may, but you don't need to.

1 Samuel. Do you open there? Yes. One of the things that in many countries of the world, Bishops, pastors were talking about on Sunday is... Enduring temptation.

Some of you may have seen. This is the man who endures temptation. Bishop Renato was talking about the inclination, the inclination that a person has. What is temptation? Temptation is when you are drawn towards sin.

And we have different inclinations. For example, you have some people in the church, they're inclined to sin when it comes to money. I don't know if any of you here have that inclination from your past. Hopefully now you don't have that.

But there are some people, they're very materialistic. They're inclined to sin. The devil still tempts them with money, monetary gain, robbery, fraud and so on. They have an inclination. Being tempted is not the problem.

However, we have to know our inclinations. Other people have an inclination towards grudges, hatred. They're that type of person.

They're easily offended. Say something small to them and they think about it the whole day. They can't let go.

So they have that inclination and the devil knows they have that inclination. So he'll test that. He'll send people to cause problems with you.

And sometimes he will not even be able to send people. let's say it's in a church setting amongst servants, what will happen is that he will instigate you to converse with people, to speak to people in such a way that it's going to draw out comments, comments. He may inspire you to ask certain questions that will lead a strange conversation that will lead you to be offended.

Inclination. So one of the inclinations that assistance. servants of God have in general is what?

A desire to be respected. You wear a uniform, you're an assistant, you are called, you are anointed, your hands were laid upon you in front of the congregation, and you have that inclination to be respected. Then what happens? Is it wrong for the assistant to be respected?

An assistant should be respected. An assistant should be respected by the people. But if that respect is gained or sought after in an incorrect manner, now we go into the realm of sin. But the people have to respect me. Hold on a second.

They don't have to. They should, but they don't have to. How does the person respect an assistant?

How does the person respect a helper? For example, a couple of the helpers are young in VYG. We don't have a culture here in Fiji whereby...

young people automatically respect it it's opposite keep quiet don't speak in your own house is it that's the culture we have here so how does a helper whether young because of age young or helpers are younger in faith younger in experience how is respect gained what is the correct way the righteous way to gain the respect and even for you who've been assistants for longer you say pastor I feel that sometimes the people in the church don't respect me. Please, don't pervert. Don't let the devil work in your mind. It's not for you to take what we're saying in the godless way.

Oh, I wanted, you know, out of arrogance, pride. No. But I gave the example recently of Mr. Chipper.

When he was an assistant in the beginning, he was not respected. I don't know if any such thing has happened here in Fiji, not to my knowledge. But literally, if he would lay hands on people where he was in the church, People would open up their eyes and they would remove his hand from their head and say, don't pray for me. Because they knew he lived in a shack.

They knew he was poor. They knew that he did not have anything in terms of the glory of God. So, you know, he was not respected. He wasn't respected. Were the people right?

No, they were wrong. Remove the hand of the assistant. Come on, that's excessive. That's crazy.

But he was not respected. He was not using his faith. He was not fighting. So how then do I gain the respect in the correct way? Like now he says he has queues of people waiting for him to talk to him, which of course will be the case.

He's broken through. He's uneducated, but he's one of the richest men in South Africa. So how then?

What is the right way? First, I have to wait until I'm rich. No.

Verse 45 says, And David said to the Philistine, You come to me with a sword, with a spear, with a javelin. I come to you in the name of the Lord of hosts. God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. This day the Lord will deliver you into my hand, and I will strike you and take your head from you. In this day I will give the carcasses of the camp of the Philistines to the birds of the air and the wild beasts of the earth, that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel, and all this assembly shall know that the Lord does not save with sword and spear, for the battle is the Lord's, and he will give you into our hands.

Go to chapter 18, please. Turn over there. And verse 6. Look at the result now, it says. Now it happened, as they were coming home, when David was returning from the slaughter of the Philistine.

Read with me, please. that the women had come out of all the cities of Israel singing and dancing to meet King Saul with tambourines, with joy and with musical instruments. So the women sang as they danced and said, Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten thousand. That's it, stop there. Did David have the respect of the people?

Yes or no? Yes or no? Yes. Yes, the respect.

By the time he returned, the news already reached there and they were singing songs. The song was meant to be about the king only, but David and nobody, his name was there. Did David say to the people respect me?

Is that what he did? Did he growl at the people? Did he try to boss the people around? No. So, that would not have gained the respect.

He gained the respect of the people by fighting for them. In his speech, he says, the armies of Israel whom you have defied, fight for the people. Want the people to respect you? Fight for them.

Don't fight for them to gain the respect. Fight for them because of the word of God. Fight for them because you were called to be an assistant in order to help them, to help the pastor serve the people. That's what it is.

Be that assistant, that helper. who is there make yourself available to go to the house visits you come to the house visits and you are praying the anointing house how would the people not respect you when they remember oh so and so not only the pastor but the helper the assistant also came to my house as well and anointed the house now we sleep well and then after you go for the anointing you go and check out maybe the pastor did not get a chance to talk to the person but you go back there and say how is it now and the person says oh assistant thank you things are well you say to them of course thank god but then what will happen When that person has an issue, they'll come to you. The people don't have to respect you because you stand there and you are help or so-and-so, assistant, so-and-so, the pastor calls you help or assistant. The people respect the work of God.

And if you are the work of God, they'll respect. The people respect victory. The people respect victory. Sometimes people that are not even liked, people respect them just because they are victorious.

They are winners. That's it. So the people who don't care about your age, trust me.

Don't care about your time as a helper. When you're in the service, what are you? Are you a statue?

Are you a warrior? Pastor, I can't lay hands on people yet. I gave an example, probably a couple of the helpers may not know about that.

There was a youth, she was 17 years old and she was raised. The first one raised in the first church I was sent to from the youth group, she was raised there. I remember when she would be in the service with me, I was a UBI there, when she would be in the service with me. I knew I could not defy the past or the rules and tell her to lay hands. What did I do?

I would tell her to lay hands on the ground. And when she would lay hands on the ground, she would start, you know, as though she was laying hands on the people's head, people would start to manifest. Even if I would be quiet and she would pray, laying hands on the ground, people would start to manifest. How would the people not respect her?

The youths would come to her and she would have to, you know, force them not, you know, to send them away. To send them away because they would want her to pray for them. So use your faith. Be a warrior. Don't be the assistant who runs from the demons that are most violent.

When you're an assistant who people respect, is the one who if a demon manifests violently, you are going there. And if one week you get beaten up, then you go back the next week, and you go back the next week. And then when you have learned, and now you're subduing the most violent demons, what will people say? People will start to sing. They'll not sing in front of you.

But I remember we used to do that. I know because I used to do that as a member. I even shared with you before, an elderly assistant, other assistants there, they could not go against that demon. With one hand, she held the demon by the throat because she could not reach the top of the head.

She was too small and subdued the demon. And we used to talk when we were there after the service. We said, did you see what assistant so-and-so did? I still remember her name all these years. Did you see what she did?

And we were talking, wow, when I'm an assistant, I want to be like her, blah, But if you're that assistant, you see the demon, the one that manifests violently, and you hit him, and then you run to the other side of the auditorium. People will say, so-and-so killed minus 10,000. Instead of saying you killed 1,000, they'll say you killed minus 1,000.

Do you understand? Be the helper. Pastor, but I can't lay hands.

I already said to you about another helper. But if you are that helper, you're always there. Imagine you see I'm holding the service and I'm holding two and all the other assistants occupied.

If you're a helper and you're in the moon while I'm doing that, so I'll not give to you. I will fight the two and I would be used by God to deliver. And imagine you are there always, you're ready.

The assistant pastor has two and so on. Then you're just waiting, looking, looking at him, looking at me, looking at me, looking at... What's going to happen?

There'll be a time I'll just say, go ahead, lay hands there. You understand? So this is the way you gain the people's respect.

You want the people to respect you because you have a uniform. You're being inclined to sin. But if you don't care about being respected and you care about fighting for the people, serving the people, lifting up the name of the Lord without you even realizing.

People will respect you. You'll earn what you're not even seeking. Did you understand? All right, and we are going to do something here now. Very interesting exercise, even as I mentioned, about laying hands, fighting against demons.

All of the helpers, one by one, you're going to be an example of someone manifesting. And one by one, you assistants, you're going to come forward and you're going to... lay hands on them as though they are you know you're in the service and i'm going to give some directions as you do so so please help and johnny if you don't mind come up here and then one assistant any assistant to volunteer to come first you're all going to come forward anyway so go ahead there assistant sandy you raise up your hand first so i'll tell you so you're going to be a demon that as soon as the person lays hands, the assistant lays hands, you manifest violently.

So what does it mean to manifest violently? Show the assistant pastor Devesh what it would be like the demon manifesting violently. Don't lay, no one's going to lay hands on him but show what it would be like if the demon manifests violently.

Go ahead. No, just show yourself. Go ahead.

No, show, show, show, move there violently. The most well. So go ahead there. Help Anne Johnny.

You'll be there. Go ahead. So as soon as the assistant lays hands, maybe turn a bit this way, just to be safe. As soon as the assistant lays hands, you are going to manifest violently.

Go ahead. Lay hands there. Then assistant, you show us what you will do. So violently, more violently. In the name of the Jesus Christ, I command you to hear the Spirit, the one that is walking in your life, the cheap one, the cheap one, manifest here, manifest here.

Okay, the next assistant, come over there, please. Next assistant, go ahead. No, remain there, remain there.

The hair is gone now. Maybe I'll not do you again because you're going to serve. Take a seat, please.

Take a seat, please. Help her. Tambi, come up, please.

Help her, Tambi. Come up, please. Go up there. Next assistant. Go ahead there.

Go ahead there. So you're not going to manifest violently straight away. You are just, you know, either shaking a little bit or, you know, just moving.

little bit a little bit so it does this is that it's clear that you know you're not a hundred percent go ahead lay the hands levels stop there please another one same thing same thing help attend be another one come forward please Stop laughing, please. Stop laughing, please. Come forward, next one. Go ahead.

Yes. One more, come there please. Same thing, go ahead. Let us believe.

All the spirit, all the spirit of the Father, all the spirit of the Father, let us believe that we are going to make a doubt about the spirit of the Father. Believe in yourself and move forward. Okay. Take a seat, Helper Tambe. Take a seat both of you.

Helper Justino, up please. So this is going to be one, one whom you are laying hands on already now for about one minute. and there's no reaction whatsoever from the person go ahead there lay hands there please right now The name of Jesus, the commandment to be yourself, the one that is hidden inside of you, the one that is not possible to escape to, I have authority in which you receive fire. Receive fire, I have a wherewithal, I have a desire for you.

The one that wants you up in the waves, the one that wants you to remain inside of you, I command you right now in the name of Jesus Christ. All of you from the ground, from heaven, from the earth, I command you, Jesus made you out and never left. I want the children that have been brought here, may they strike our in.

Jesus name. May they always be seen. The Lord is ahead. He's at the tip of our feet. Jesus name.

Get out. Okay. Come, all three, all three of the helpers come forward please. Then you are laying hands on, next one please.

You are laying hands on face. Side by side please. You are laying hands on Helper and Jani. She is not manifesting and the other two start to manifest.

Go ahead. The other two start to manifest. All the life. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Next.

Someone else come up, please. That's okay. Next, someone else come up, please. Start from... Next one.

Someone else. Even if you went already before. Start from the beginning, please. Who was the first one that came up?

Let's go. Let's go. Same thing. Okay. Same thing.

Same thing. Yep. In the name of the Jesus Christ, the one that is hiding, the one that is... Next one, please.

Come on, stop there, please. Next one, please. You are the one. You are the one.

Next one, please. Someone else come up. okay so there please all of you take a seat please you show the people in the back row the video take a seat please the ones in the back row you show the video show the ones I'll show to the ones in the front row so video from Show the one where it's straight. Not the one that you see.

Yeah, the first one. The big one. Okay.

I don't know if you'll all be able to see here. This is from last Friday. What time? 10 a.m., right?

Go in the center of them. I don't know. They won't all be able to see that. Try and go to the center. Try to huddle around, those of you over there.

Okay. There's no sound. Let me know when it's finished as I can't see it.

After the show, this isn't Seriana. oh yeah the video is let me see the time of the video How long was it? It's like 1 minute 17 or something like that. 1 minute 17?

1 minute 17 seconds. That includes the 1 or 2 seconds when I came down from the altar. Alright. What happened in the video that you could not hear?

It's one of the things that, one of the repeated things that came up there. Especially when the one, with the ones that the person manifests. Lack of objectivity.

What is objectivity? Focus, the goal, and the mission. If the person had manifested fully already, the person was manifesting violently, the first thing is the chief.

That's it. When I came down from, again, one minute, 17 seconds, let's say one minute, 15 seconds. Even including the end there when the person after us, if you saw her face, her eyes took a big sigh of relief. And that's how you know when the person is actually free.

You'll see in the countenance of the person. After you lay hands on the person, the person is, you know, unless they manifested really, really violently. There are some occasions where the person may feel a bit tired, but still in their eyes, their countenance will see their light.

She was, you know, immediately high. You could not see again from there. So what did I do? As soon as I came down from the altar, I commanded for the chief demon to manifest.

As soon as I got there, the chief demon to manifest. And then I asked, are you the chief? The demon said yes.

So I commanded the demon out. And that's it. One minute, you know, between one minute 13, one minute 15 seconds.

It didn't take long for the person to manifest fully, so I don't need to take long. But sometimes you are, you know, it's like you are taking the demon on a date. You want to try to, you know, coerce the demon, talk to the demon and, you know, become friends with the demon. This is not what we're there to do. We're there on a mission to cast out evil spirits, as Jesus said.

Do you understand? So erase from your mind whatever it is. Erase from your mind. When do we take a bit more time?

Sometimes you are there because you advised the person maybe before the service, you didn't get a chance to lay hands on them before. And you know from what they told you, there's a demon. When I go and lay hands on many people in the service, I know there's a demon.

Sometimes because I have not, even when I have not spoken to them, but just experience, experience. I know, I know. But, you know, if you lay hands on the person, the person's, you know, a little bit.

Again, what should it be? manifest completely and then the head demon and then get out that's it objective all the other things are extra pastor before i cast out can i say burn you can say burn what's your intention to say burn are you just saying burn because you're looking for words are you saying fire because you're looking for words when when is it really to say burn to say fire mainly the demons completely manifested you're going to cast out just to hurt the demons torment the demon for the demon to have inside of its mind, if I come back here, someone is going to make me suffer. Finish. That's it. We have to be objective.

And please don't say in your mind, it's because I'm the pastor. I was doing that when I was an assistant. I guarantee you that.

If you doubt what I'm saying, one day maybe you go to England and I'll tell you which church I was in and ask the ones who were the assistance members. Actually, you'll see other assistants doing that. Of course, there's some difference because At the time, it was hundreds of demons we had cast out.

Now it's millions over the years. But in terms of, you know, being objective, many times already was there. So be objective.

Don't be there looking to say many different things. You don't need to do that. What do you need to do?

Fight. Some of the cases, a couple of the examples, especially with the one who was not manifesting, one or two did okay, you know, did not take too long to cast out. But the last example with two manifesting beside, everyone failed.

Why did everyone fail? If both of them are manifesting, lay hands on both of them. But pastor, you said not to lay hands with one hand.

Yes, there are circumstances. For example, is a doctor supposed to operate on their own family members? Yes or no? Are they supposed to operate on their own family members?

Yes or no? Just like when your family members come to the service on Friday, you're not supposed to lay hands on them. If your family member manifests at home, are you going to call me to come to your house? Do you think there's time for me to come to your house?

Fight the demon. That's what you do. There's situations. Like I said before, I was a member of the church, a disciple, and there was a young lady, she manifested on the street.

We did not lay hands on her, but two of us who had the Holy Spirit, we tied up the demon there without laying hands on the street. And then someone ran and called the pastor because we were close to the church, and the pastor came and laid hands and solved the problem. But we didn't say, oh, we are not assistants.

We're going to let the person manifest and be there. One of the person who was with me, he did that before. Look what he did.

One day a demon manifested because in our church, demons would run out of the auditorium. A lot, they would run out. So we had...

Disciples, we were called helpers there. Disciples, we would need to be at the door. We would need to be at the door, especially Sunday 4pm.

And one day, what did he do? Instead of him commanding the demon, tying up the demon with his words, or even with his hands, he would not have got into trouble. What did he do?

He was just there, you know, standing, watching, you know, and they were in like the reception, let's say just out there. You know what the demon did? The demon ran away. It was a short girl, maybe like Helper Tanvi, maybe even a bit shorter than her.

And he's a very fast runner, very fast, tall guy, athletic, very, very fast runner. But she was presented, manifested with a demon. She outran him.

He came back to the church alone and ashamed. He said, I can't believe it. She ran away.

She escaped. Of course, it was a demon. So he was too hesitant in that moment.

Then he learned. And the next time someone manifested on the street, he, you know, took care of the problem. Do you understand? Do you understand?

So, you know, you are there. No other assistant is around. Like in that example, you're laying hands on someone, they're not manifesting.

Two people manifest. Grab there and you look around and then either I will come there if I'm free, an assistant will come there or I'll send a helper there. But you don't leave and then you wait. No. You know, because you can't just abandon and allow them.

Because what if the person then afterwards manifests completely and smashes their head on the ground? How do you explain that to the family member who trusted them in our hands? Are you following?

But the main thing I want you to get from this is be objective. This is now the second time in a short space of time I'm showing you a video of, you know, me fighting against. I think it's three in total I've done before fighting against demons, casting them out. You don't need to give a whole speech when you're in the war against the devil. Your aim is to set the person free.

Pastor, can I ask, are you the chief one? Don't ask, are you the chief one straight away? The The demon is manifested.

You've commanded the chief one. And you are sure it's the chief. Then one question only. Are you the chief one? You know, the demon either nods or says yes.

And then what do you do? Cast out the demon. Is it? All that you have there, ideally, better.

Let me make clearer. Everything you have. Everything you have there in this life, in this body. Everything there. In the name of Jesus, get out.

And that's it. And then. For the person to be free, healed, well. Pastor, why? Everything that you have there.

Because we have had cases. The demon was cast out. The demon left the sickness there. The demon was cast out.

The demon left the family problem there. Because you did not tell the demon to take all that it has there and so on. You follow? So it's to tell the demon to get out with everything it has. Any questions, any doubts about all of this?

Is it all clear? Ask now. Don't be ashamed or embarrassed.

Ask now. Are you sure? Everything clear?

Alright, and the other thing is, a couple of you, when you were laying hands, be careful with suggesting, you know, or saying, the person's not manifesting and you are saying the problem. Like in the case where the helper that was not manifesting, then you say, oh, the one that is doing this, this and this. How do you know that's the one that is doing?

Now, of course, if you had spoken to the person, that's different. But if that's what you usually do, even when you have no knowledge of the person. person you have to be careful Pastor, what if there are times when the Holy Spirit gives me an assurance this is what the person is going through? That's different.

That happens to me as well. And I say, I talk to the person and it's confirmed afterwards. But don't just every single time you say, oh, the one bringing doubts, the one doing this, the one doing this. As I told you the story, one day, Mrs. Esther was in a church and an assistant came and laid hands on her.

Her face was not known everywhere. When I was a member of the church, I did not know her face. And she went to a church and the person laid hands on her, the assistant, and said, the one working in the husband. Who is Ms. Esther's husband? Madness.

And this is where this thing came from. This is before your time. This is where this thing came from, where he said, make sure you say, if there is. It's not just if there is a demon. It's also if there is something working in the house, if there is something in the health.

Now, if I called people forward and said, you who know there is someone envious against you, then you say, the one who is causing envy. You don't say if. You don't say if. That's why you can't be on autopilot there. You can't just be laying hands and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, talking and then cast out.

And the demon is laughing at you and you don't see. Say, yes, I'm happy this was the assistant that came and laid hands because this one is not in spirit. It's not meant to be like that. So, oh, you have family members who hate you. What do you do when you lay hands?

Tell me, what do you say when you lay hands on that person? My goodness, everyone's silent. If I say, come forward, those of you.

have a family member who hates you what do you do when you lay hands on the person sorry spirit of envy what did i just say the spirit that caused the family member to hate them is it god that is causing them to hate is it why did i call them because i know that's a demon causing them so then you lay hands Those of you who are poor and you can never ever overcome your poverty come to the front. What do you say when you lay hands? Spirit of poverty if you want to be short and sweet spirit of poverty the spirit that closes the doors Spirit that blocks the ways that's it. But again be objective person starts to manifest Again, the chief spirit if you are the chief one that is causing the poverty and maybe that's the chief one causing that That issue that is there and then you know are you the chief yes or you know you know and you are sure you're sure you're sure i remember one day a helper came and asked who is the same church i was talking about you know where that help i used to tell her to lay hands on the ground and then one day she was the past was you know laying hands on someone who said hey they had the head one are you the chief demon and the demon said yes the pastor said you are lying and then the demon got angry then really you know cause the chief one to manifest and she came and asked me pastor how did pastor know that she is the oh that it was not the chief one that's why you have to be in spirit so you have to be in spirit but it's not now every single time the demon says he's the chief one you say no you are lying and now the devil's telling the truth the demon's telling the truth and you say you are lying and what are you going to do now you're going to spend half an hour there laying hands until it then what's the demon going to do what the demon's going to do the demon's going to switch with a demon who is not the chief and then you're going to be there you know anyway we're going to go in another direction if i continue there but is everything clear so far are you sure last but not least now another matter but again um the video is going to be there on youtube anyone had a question don't ask me afterwards ask me now anyone had a question tell me maybe like the greener benefit Yes.

Ah, that was one I did not, as you reminded me, that was what I meant to do. And that's where, you know, the devil is, is testing, the demon is testing your result. That's where a lot of the time assistants fail. You say, get out, leaving the demon there hidden. Don't do that.

Sometimes you're going to say, get out. The person did not manifest and the person is free. But if the demon manifested and then it hides again, you lost if you remain there.

And that's why sometimes it's able to hide and remain hidden. Because you did not fight through that. How did we learn so that if the demon hides, we bring the demon back to the surface? It's because we fight through that.

When we were assistants, we fought through that. So now that cannot happen anymore. But if you say get out after the demon had manifested and it hid, then you are going to be, you know, giving a point to the evil.

So insist. Pastor, what do I say exactly? Insist and you will learn.

Do you understand? Insist and you will learn. If you say, Pastor, when you give the command, it seems like the demon respects more.

Insist in every single battle. Every battle makes you stronger. Every battle makes you more capable. David, before he killed Goliath, what did he kill before that? Who knows?

The lion and the bear. So the demon hid. And when you were there, the first time, it took you 20 minutes.

But then the demon came back. And then you became stronger, more knowledgeable. The next time, it's going to take you 10 minutes.

The next time, it's going to take you one minute if the demon hides to bring back. But if you don't insist, then you are always going to be you're always going to remember last time the demon hit and the demon remained hidden and i said get out and you're going to keep doing it keep doing it and the demons they talk they're going to say oh this one is not determined and they're going to always hide you understand so insist what were you going to ask is it the same thing I said, I will only lay hands on him and then I will not do it. In that time when you're laying hands on or when it's time to end there, there's no, you don't lay hands there in that moment unless you see this person is really unwell. But usually if you notice, I say, if you are not okay, go to the back. You understand?

Now, if you're already laying hands on the person, yeah, and the person starts to lay hands, you can just wait. You can continue laying hands on the person. It's okay.

But Why start laying hands there in that moment? Very strange. Now, if you say, Pastor, I think there's something with this person.

Sit down with the person, talk to them, and then you can lay hands after the service. But in that moment, you know, very rare occasions, you're going to start laying hands on a new person there in that moment. Is it clear? Are you sure? Or do you still have a doubt?

Okay. Go ahead. When they go back to their place, you tell them to pray for themselves. At that time, we are not laying down. Remember, we are standing.

That's what I'm saying. In that moment, if you were already with someone in that moment, continue. You see that there's a demon there. Don't rush. That is another error.

Just rush because I'm saying get out with everyone. Do the work. Do the work. Make sure it's the chief one. You don't say get out just because.

I said to everyone, get out, do the work. If you need to take the demon to the back, if you need to continue, insist so the person is free. Now, if you were there, you would finish laying hands on someone. And after you finish laying hands on someone, I say, everyone place your hands on the top of your head right now.

You don't need to go and lay hands on someone new there in that moment, you understand? Rare occasions. For example, there were moments when I saw and I said, everyone lay your hands on the top of your head.

and I could see someone like this. And the person cannot lay hands. And I say, lay hands on the top of your head. And hopefully there's an assistant there who's in spirit watching.

And you can see this person is manifested. Some of you remember there was a couple of months ago, we had the Valley of Salt, if I'm not wrong. And I went there into the queue to go and lay hands on someone because I could see that they were manifested in the queue. And then afterwards, another assistant took over. I called him to take over.

So there are times you're going to see everyone lay hands. And this person can understand what the pastor is saying. This person is not because they only speak Hindi or Italki.

This person can understand, but they can't raise their hands. They can't raise their hands because they are manifested, at least partially manifested. So you go to that person and lay hands. Is this every service? No.

Is it every Friday? No. But most of the time, if you are not laying hands, you just, you know, leave there. Is it clear?

All right, the last thing very quickly, it's getting too close to the service time now. Something very important for all of you. especially for the VYG. Remember I told you we are here to lead people to salvation. It cannot be that people come to the church, especially return to the church, come to the youth group, and no one invites them to come to service.

On Sunday, a couple of sisters were here and the service was not spoken about in VYG meeting and no one insisted to keep them in the service. Pastor, they need transport, speak to us, we'll provide. But our aim is to lead people to salvation. Jesus said, love your neighbor as you love yourself. If you only bring youths to the youth group, you don't love them.

It doesn't matter what you say. It doesn't matter what activity. It doesn't matter the message.

There's no one, no one who's going to become an assistant. They only come to VYG. There's no one who's going to be completely strong in their faith. They only come to VYG.

Is the VYG meeting helpful? Of course it's helpful. But the foundation is Wednesday, Friday, and Sunday morning service.

You understand? So invest in that. All of you, all of your assistants now, feel free. If you see youths there, you know, talk to them, advise them, guide them, check with them on Sunday if they came for service.

If you want to help them, 5pm, if you need something, any resources, speak to my wife or speak to me. But we have to fight for the souls of these people. We have to. Youths cannot come to the church and they think church is only VYG, especially if they are returning.

The devil does not play. The devil sends a friend to kill them. What do I mean to kill them?

Sends a friend to insist. And when that person takes a step towards the devil, he embraces them fully and makes them worse than they were before. And then they come through our doors. And then we are there. Oh, how are you?

Long time. Okay, see you Wednesday. Wednesday. They're going to come on Wednesday. Bring them to the service.

Let them hear more of the word. Then after the service, lay hands on them for them to manifest. You understand?

But we cannot play. We're fighting intensely to bring back. If the Holy Spirit directed Bishop Macedo, even these letters we are giving, I don't doubt that soon we're going to hear cases of people dying.

When I went to the temple, Bishop Judson told us about that. He went to a church he had not been in many years, and they invited a man whom he knew when that man was poor. That man started to prosper, left the church. Bishop asked for him personally. He had not been there in many years, maybe around 10 years.

What happened? The man died when he was meant to be in the service. So let us not play.

The devil is not playing with us. Is it clear? Let's go to the service now. Run up there, please.