Lecture from Manny Medina, CEO of Outreach: Insights on Sales Strategies and Growth

Jul 11, 2024

Lecture from Manny Medina, CEO of Outreach: Insights on Sales Strategies and Growth

Overview

  • Manny Medina, CEO and co-founder of Outreach
  • Attempting to read every significant sales book
  • Contrasting old school vs. new school sales approaches
  • The evolution of sales techniques and the importance of closing strategies
  • Outreach's journey from inception to over $200 million ARR

Sales Literature Journey

  • Numerous new sales books released frequently
  • Common themes and recurring titles in sales literature
  • Comparison of old school (e.g., Zig Ziggler, Brian Tracy) vs. new school sales
  • Old school: Emphasis on always be closing (ABCs)
  • New school: More steps, emphasis on challenging the customer, passive-aggressive tones
  • Personal experiences of customers rarely volunteering orders
  • The societal shift in sales techniques mirroring broader social changes

Introduction of Manny Medina

  • CEO and co-founder of Outreach
  • Company has over 200 million ARR, 1,000 employees, 6,000 customers
  • Focus on outbound sales strategies and company evolution

Outreach's Journey

Initial Steps and Pivot

  • Started as a company in the recruiting space, pivoted towards sales engagement software
  • Created an engine for personalized, scalable email outreach
  • Transitioned to a SaaS company for appointment setting
  • Identified larger market in sales teams vs. recruiting teams

Outbound Sales Strategy

  • Absolute necessity for outbound due to creating a new product category
  • Educating the market was essential: no existing demand
  • Product-market fit and founder-led sales were critical
  • Outbound sales as foundational to company growth
  • Enterprise customers lacked budgets initially; had to generate need and budget

Company's Growth Phases

0 to 10 Million ARR

  • Diverse customer base: selling to anyone who would buy
  • Realized the need to narrow the Ideal Customer Profile (ICP)

10 to 100 Million ARR

  • High-velocity, smaller deals transitioned to larger, strategic deals
  • Sales cycles became longer but resulted in stickier, more strategic deals
  • Emphasis on professional services and change management

100 Million+ ARR

  • Multi-product strategy
  • Expansion through selling additional products to existing customers
  • Shift from new logo acquisition to expansion of existing accounts

Internationalization Strategy

  • First international market: EMEA
  • Began with support and customer success, then expanded sales
  • Lesson learned: Importance of a definitive strategy and focusing on market segments

Competitive Landscape

  • Competition can be beneficial for market establishment
  • Using strength in the existing market to capture additional areas
  • Differentiating by focusing on creating and improving workflows

Marketing and Category Establishment

  • Marketing efforts coinciding with category establishment
  • Impact on conversion rates and market awareness
  • Importance of brand and event marketing efforts

Outbound vs. Inbound

  • Outbound is necessary for new categories and immediate growth
  • Inbound marketing took longer to become a significant growth driver
  • The interplay of outbound efforts with marketing to increase effectiveness

Final Advice and Reflections

  • Challenges at different growth stages (10, 25, 50, 100 million ARR)
  • Transitioning sales approach from features, to solutions, to the value created
  • Understanding growth milestones not as endpoints but as continuous journeys
  • Importance of creating a repeatable and scalable sales system

Conclusion

  • Continue building upon successful strategies
  • Continuous learning and adaptation in sales strategies
  • Outbound sales remains a crucial part of growing SaaS companies