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full full Fountain right and so this is surrender freeze hands up freeze this is receive freeze freeze freeze cup freeze freeze receive there you go freeze receipt and so we trust that you're sharing go to this one right here if they have that in that thing with my hands lifted up and my mouth filled with praise my hands up it might be and my mouth filled with praise yeah because you know we what's the name you know certain kind of people we don't know the actual name of songs we just take the first verse we take the First with my hands lifted up you know the song you guys are about to be really mad at me I have to use bathroom I'm so sorry this is not a joke I'm by CL that's a CL we're going to keep we're not going to stop that's because clack clack had that stuff you're not even in the right camera no he was he was he was no I guess the preventative cake oh my last week gave the proverbial bladder but we we will we will we will go ahead and uh we will we will worship in the spirit of unity and Holiness while we wait on our brother but this is Monday night do what we're doing now and hit the share button tag somebody get everybody in there uh because we want to make sure that um we get our people in here because we have decided to make Jesus our choice I'm Pastor Mark Moore know that and next to me we have Bishop Brandon and God Jac Jacobs that's right Hammond Indiana yeah IND Indiana uh Philadelphia Pennsylvania all over the world right over here we have pass green would you like to say something to the people sir a greenism a greenism you know get a lot of young preachers uh who reach out to us and ask for wisdom and I want to say this to a young preacher you don't always have to Rebel to ascend if you want to come up don't feel the need to Rebel make a note of this you don't have to leave your country even to be great but serve where you are continue to be faithful honor your leader and watch God bless you hey Brandon I thought he was going to say something funny yeah oh no no he's been been in his PR CL he I think it's love the Lord I made a decision make Jesus I thought he was going to be funny like he usually is he pought a real gym out you know sometimes got you know what our brother Apostle clar has had preventive cake he has been summoned he the Breakthrough it didn't prevent we prophesied he took it last week he didn't take enough place cuz he said it work seven days he said it work seven days days old that's probably what happened all he backed up M mhm mhm so uh we don't have a clack fact right now unless they wants to make one up this is a ripe opportunity no you just got my cont you got my cont but this is this is a gift this is an opportunity to give a clack fact and Clack is not even I I don't know how he comes up with this foolishness I you know I'm just saying he by the time he gets back he'll have something maybe he found a new soap that's good for cleansing the hands I don't know keep your clings for seven days I I don't maybe so maybe Spirit stuff ain't worked for me yet that's true that's true connections lift up your chin so the people can see what's going on over there it do work for me either it's fine we're in St you look like you could grow full just shaved like 3 weeks ago but tell me I'm just curious why why do y'all cut it right here why don't you let this grow in too just I don't know the whole thing grow next time lift up yeah I'm serious I'm not even being fny when my yours is the same thing no what I'm saying when I grow a a full beard I I let it grow up to right my my Adam's appet what do you do when you grow a full beard look at it come in here but just let this down here let this grow stop using stop using CL let this grow right here try it I'm try it I'm still waiting I'm still waiting clack oil didn't do anything for me I don't mind waai mind so we're going to we're going to let him get back and give his clock F but in the meantime while we're here there are some exciting things going on in our worlds yes we're not that far from Mite come on come on do you want to talk about we got the padding going on beneath you so go ahead and speak to the people have you register I need y'all to register it's going to be an amazing time we got Pastor Mark MO is going to be teaching on Church growth and Church administration and all that Pastor Brandon clack is coming Nate green isn't coming to this because he was too busy but he will be coming to us later on in the year uh but but it's going to be a high time in God uh we got Miranda Curtis coming got Bishop William Murphy's coming uh we have mother trenee Glenn uh we have Melvin crispel you said mother Glenn yeah oh my church now you know that's that's I love Mother T and tore our convocation up yeah yes she did my mama yes she did speaking of things being torn up oh my god let's pause this commercial well no let's let's finish your commercial you have to register to be at T Rene Glenn's um that's that's not going to be on YouTube no you got to register to be at that that's going to be a move of God I'm I'm believing God to do something simply crazy uh in that place so registrations are coming in we have two sold out hotels Wow Let's clap it up for that y That's not easy we celebrate that Applause J with the Oregon and the Applause that's really good I'm in church I'm really in church so so yes so I'm excited uh and of course so much is going on I'm preaching my wife is now that's going to be it the official address yeah of the bishop you wearing your purple shirt your red shirt no I think you should oh my god with with the with the 3in c I am not going to Bishop Hudson I am not doing that they are encouraging this food that's what he was talking about more live I don't know why you acting right you said I never said I don't care what anybody say I'm wearing the red one he's an honorable son we kid we kid we kid we kid absolutely yeah so speaking of a move in that place let's let's celebrate a proor burning CL come on celebate him the Deliverance he went to the look like he had a breakthrough yeah yeah yeah yeah so now why is your countenance falling are you okay many toils and snares is this right here and schemes watching this right so that mean your your your your but where you push through in the spirit your potion didn't work was not a potion I didn't have my preventative pastry it's been 3 weeks and I just I hav it but I would like to introduce the audience to but we do have time for a clack fact and as always if you would bring me my it's on your hands come on you're incredible assistant wow oh no he wants you to bring it to him wait a minute she refuses what you touch any of that okay CL what is this Brandon all right here's what we have here these are called personal pellets I want you to see this now now here's the reason for these personal pellets these personal pellets are going to keep you fresh in your unmentionables under your arms under the bottom of your feet if you will tape these pellets we don't have an adhesive just yet but if you'll put these pellets under your arms under your feet there'll be a freshness like Oak and you'll have won't it hurt no that's why you wear it at night you just you just tape it you let it lay is that bark what it does is that the the the brownness of its own thing that is there will absorb all Funk attacks that you get in Must In Praise in dampness and soiling and if you'll apply these to the bottom of your underarm bottom of your feet you my friends will find that you'll stay fresher longer this foolishness and the neighbor you turn to on Sundays will thank you for freshness thank you guys this will be in our merch table if you come to Reformation Memphis you'll see this in the merch for you you'll find your pastries that are preventative we haven't we won't do that now we won't do that now cuz this is really a love offering to those that have accumulated it's the gift that keeps on giving right wow nobody wants to fight a smell that they're like oh no oh no fun you came up with this while you were in the restroom no no I came up with this weeks ago this is a part of our company that that we don't do that okay so the ant personal pellets if you're interested we're going to get on to other things the preventative pastries preventative pastries personal pellets personal P we've also got a silky beard line oh that's ni silky beard oh wow now look at this now remember like a hickory as this only works under the arm and under the foot if you apply it in other danger Z fragrances I'm not responsible for any kind of outdoorsy yeah what are your fragran please don't throw my this smells like this smells like wooden hay don't do that what it does is that it will work with your pH balance to bring you into [Music] freshness please if you're in the comments and you want to be fresh raise an emoji hand but don't raise your hands too high until you have your personal not without the personal pellets wow Lord Do It Let's Celebrate that clack [Applause] F that's a blessing I'm still waiting on the beard thing to work for me mhm but oh there's the pastry there's the he brought those items back from last week wow well we celebrate you and your Innovation it's almost as if you're anointed for that yeah clacka yes God's hand is on your life the anointing of is on his life the anointing of creativity clacka yeah and and while we're talking about the anointing yeah I think that that's a one why you think do not R my arm with those nasty things he move on about the anointing cuz he's trying to anoint me with something else I can't take it I can't Mama pain so I would talking about the anointing and we know you're sharing we know you've tagged and put this in your group text and invited everybody in we cannot have a preacher Talk podcast without a healthy conversation and discussion about the anointing I would suggest that it is a term that has been abused overused misused it's a concept that has been misdiagnosed you somebody they saying who that girl saying that girl good the hair on the back of my neck stood up that is funny and so therefore she is Anointed or a lot of people showed up to see the the the the event therefore they are anointed or it's a misund it was anointed oh God was there well just because people were there doesn't mean God was MH but it's a concept that we have to address Even in our preaching you know so oh he's so anointed is he anointed is she anointed or is he gifted how do we draw the line what does this look like I'm throwing it out there people want to know we want to know what is the maybe let's start there what is the anointing we need to Define it let's define it what is our def great Nate I'm looking at you Greg I was going with green and then I name I like Greg you look like a Greg he like a he like a Greg Gregory Gregory I can see you being a Greg Gregory green Gregory green Gregory green I'm Greg you're bar hold on a second y'all I hate to reveal this cuz I is time CL we're going to reveal his real first name Gregory Nate green guys wow g g g& g first names being revealed Bishop G and green Bishop G and green the anointing let's define it I think it's a lot more simpler than people make it yeah it's the backing of almighty God okay when you stand to do what he's called you to do it's it's God's hand using you as his glove why are you laughing Who's Laughing you your mind your mind no I thought about OJ simp I know you did know it don't fit I thought about the rubber gloves and went and when they get rid of the test you but it's it's God using you for his own Glory yeah I I think that we need and it's Heaven backing you I think we need to do I I would more so like to talk about what the anointing does in simple forms uh scripture speaks of two types of anointing it talks about the anointing that destroy yolks and remove burdens the anointing is destructive and then uh when we talk about uh when it says that the anointing was upon them and and the Yoke was destroyed that's actually speaking of what's in you and not on you absolutely uh it talks about how the anointing was was on on the neck and the neck grew so fat that the broke so the the Yoke wasn't broken because of something on it the Yoke was broken because of what was within and so I think that the anointing is destructive it it destroy yolks it removes burdens it it brings about change and I think that we need to speak to that in Clarity because so many people think some just because someone sings well preaches well um performs well that there anointed the real question is does the anointing change or that person in their singing whether it was good or bad was your mind changed was there a level of conviction something broken yes and a lot of what we've called the anointing was really just focus yeah it's it's that wasn't always oil sometime that was just someone who was focused in their craft they mastered knowing how to do what they do so to the point that they get a response out of you yeah there's a major difference we still heard it that was annoying first of all give me props for M the right M though you and I waited I held it in until the cameras were over there you didn't have to uncover me like that I was annoyed I was annoyed that moment I didn't want the people to think that you SC me yeah I get they looking at they know okay go ahead yeah I I think the ano love at this table a no love with this table the anointing is also a sign of consecration uh to be set apart to be distinct to be holy unto a purpose so it is more than just the Thrills and the the feels that we get when we do when God empowers to do something so it's also a placement to be what God has ordained you to be I think number one number two I think that it's important that we and you know these will be Brandon clack terms I would suggest we divorce ourselves from Goosebumps CU I think them little things are false prophets absolutely we're we're dependent on Goosebumps to tell us wo that was something cuz I felt the chicken skin well what happens when God doesn't decide to arouse the bumps on your arm to let you know that he's near does that mean that that moment wasn't anointed I agree and I mean and I love what you said CL cuz that that speaks to David and Saul MH Saul was anointed for a spot Saul got out of order the anointing that went on David and as soon as and I'm going say not soon after David got anointed that anointing was needed in the palace so God put an evil spirit on Saul that called for the anointing that was on David to put the oil back in the palace that played the evil spirit off of Saul but David was still serving in that Palace for about for over 30 years uh until you know uh Saul had died um the anointing is for purpose David was anointed to be king the oil came off of Saul though Saul still sat in that seat and the anointing to fulfill that seat was on David anointing comes with an assignment which suggests if you're anointed but out of place there is no there's no flow in your oil which further suggests that I don't have to lie Cheaters still to get to the Palace absolutely if the anointing on my life is going to take me somewhere my job is to keep breathing yeah yeah that's good when God anoints you mhm note this when David was anointed note it he was sent back to the pasture yeah he didn't go immediately to the palace and I think there's something to be said about that just because God has anointed you greatly doesn't always mean that it's your time Y and I'm going say this not only not only did he not go immediately to the Palace he didn't get the se he was anointed for right away no it was Years cuz God was developing him God was developing him so the lack of environmental change does not mean you're being stifled look right at me young preacher old preacher whoever if you are connected to somebody that is committed to your not yet it does not mean that they are a Saul absolutely David did not go to the Palace right away just like you may not have been past the mic right away can we stop making people more powerful than God come I'm being held back right how if God has come on designed a spa do we not realize the God will move Heaven and Earth come on to execute his will nobody can hold you back that's I think that that's an idea and the concept that we abuse if God wanted me there come here Jonah if God wants me in Thena he will raise up a fish to make sure to escort me there mute the enzymes in that fish's belly to keep me from being digested just to get me where I need to because Mark what I love about that is when the fish spits him out he ends up at yeah which tells me that fish had to have caught up time what the boat couldn't do absolutely the fish the storm put him right where he needed to be yeah so if you decide not to go where your oil has called you God will cause a storm to push you there yeah U but I I I and I think that that you said something CL I want to go back to it we have to be careful um trying to or or better yet being jealous of someone in a spot that they've been anointed for but you have not come on that's why you got to appreciate God for where you are you got to get clarity for where you are because just because you're mad at God because you're not Nate green or Brandon clack or Mark Moore it doesn't mean that God's going to push you that God has called you to be who you are cuz we don't need another Nate green we don't need another Brandon CL need another uh uh Mark more God has an assignment for your life and you got to you got to live in the posture of a yes yeah so that he doesn't cause a storm to put you where you need to be and so that you can get there in peace but trust me your your anointing will pull you to purpose be and be you cuz you don't want the Warfare that comes with my oil or my grace I want to correct something and because I'm kind of tired of hearing it and it it sounds good in church and I'm sure you all have heard it but there's always this preaching point if you want my anointing you got to suffer to get this now I think that makes the anointing unattractive to a lot of people because it would suggest the that the only way for me to get oil is that I got to go through MH but the last time I checked you don't crush an olive to put oil in it yeah you crush an olive to get oil from it wow so we don't suffer to get an anointing if anything you suffer because of the anointing of the anointing that's already in you God already wired you with this that's right so your Warfare is because of what you already have absolutely which suggests that the oil must know my name it didn't fall on iLab it didn't fall on the other brothers you don't have to feel like I'm being overlooked and pushed aside cuz I'm not getting my opportunity whatever is on you at some point that thing is going to grab a hold of you and you're going to be what God called you to be but you know what activates it what activates it is when you get under the right hand yeah wow yeah you got to get under your Samuel under the right hand and in alignment yeah with your right hand absolutely you got to get under the right hand you got to be in alignment um it it was cuz what I love that Story 1 Samuel 16 is so powerful of my but even if you look at Saul uh Saul was anointed from a vial David was anointed from a horn which means it that Saul's oil the the top had to be removed David's oil that that wax either had to be melted or that horn had to be broken and the horn represents something had to die yeah yes that's that's the biggest s from that that horn yes a life had to end absolutely for this to be produced but here's here's the wrestle though I'm not even going to knock the vial because Samuel told Saul if you would have just obeyed you wouldn't have had to leave the place where God put you on the same Throne that David's going to so I don't want the these our audience to feel like I'm after the horn when The Vow could have sustained him too if he would have been obedient but I think that the vow represents man opinion oh wow because sa means the ask for one yeah it represents the vow the vow represents man's opinion the horn represents God's choice so a lot of times that's why you got to be careful let men push you into oil that you haven't necessarily been designed for God kind of gave Saul as a request of the people because God was saying I was your king okay Jacobs then answer me this I just let me argue with you for a second okay if if Saul is man's Choice which I he is I agree yeah does that do we need to paint that in a negative light cuz God still gave him yeah I I agree but I think that and and and I Lord I wish we wouldn't online right and I because I could really talk free the Lord use you no no no I don't know no no no no no no I think that uh I it it almost seems as if Saul is is is the offensive give you know like I have been here I gave you judges I was your king you wanted to be like the other kingdoms and you wanted a king of the Earth when you had a king of heaven so you know what I'll give you what you want Saul had the look Saul had the stature sa had everything Saul had everything that the people thought they wanted and then God flipped it and gave them something that he designed David was not as tall you understand David was Ruddy David was almost the text almost gives you the the sense that David was too cute to be king but yet David was The Greatest Warrior in that Kingdom okay I got another question which means hold on let me put this let me say this before you do this let me finish I forgot I want to say this the oil doesn't have a look yeah no we have to be careful thinking that people have to look a certain way to be anointed do you do you feel bad for Saul yes he was mind in his own business yeah he HIIT from it man he didn't want to be king I do feel bad for him I do feel bad for him that doesn't feel bad cuz he's not empathetic but I feel bad for him I feel bad for him he didn't ask for this he is a byproduct of people crying I'm about to be messy I feel I feel just as bad for Saul as I feel for Judas okay now wait a minute now because it didn't have to be it didn't have to be Judas the Bible says Judas was born the son of predition we getting ready to go into a whole another conversation let's not start a boring now I want to talk to you about predestination but we'll save that for off camera oh God oh God oh God okay but wait wait wait wait we were all born in sin yeah he still made a choice to fulfill a certain I don't feel bad we were all born with the potential of fall no I see what he saying I don't feel bad for the Bible the Bible gives us Clarity that he was born with that assignment to to betray he was born the son of predition he was born for that assignment I'm not saying he couldn't repent right okay but but that that's the reason so you were born the son of you were born the son of I was born the son of you were born the if it hadn't been for Judas Jesus would have never got C he needed to get we anybody doc say the that that Spirit entered him it didn't have to enter it it could have entered any of the disciples but because of some spiritual deficiency it entered him all of us have the potential to be one that the devil uses but you just have to make sure that it's not you so do you feel bad for Saul cuz an evil spirit came on him from the drum roll please the Lord uhuh come on CL do you feel bad for Saul too I I feel bad for I feel bad for Saul because again you're opening me up to feeling bad for Spirits did not show up until after the Disobedience because remember wait wait even with Judas he was a thief before he was a betrayer he yeah so he made himself but we all were born something we all were born something that doesn't become an excuse the other the other 11 disciples are not raised higher just because they didn't do it they all could have been that man they and I I'm not saying I disagree with you I do feel like Judas didn't know what was going to happen because remember he's apologetic because remember because he's a thief Mark you're going down you about to prove his point he didn't know it was going to end that way but I still don't feel sorry for him what I'm saying is he had seen the Bible says that he had seen Jesus disappear from damn danger before let's Go's go he has a Deb to settle because he's a thief all I needed was 30 pieces of silver I'm going to watch the CH The Chosen say this let me say this we will not say their name what separates what separates Judas and Peter Peter had a bad day Judas had a bad heart thank you what but I don't feel bad for him yeah he had a he walked with Jesus directly what I'm saying still didn't a choice man I feel bad for guess what listen Judas is still a soul Judas could Judas did not repent so you feel bad for every unrepentant Center we all no no no no no no no no let me let me clarify the question of course the answer is yes we feel bad okay the apostolic Mar oh y going to hell I don't I don't think that we are in it's it's not that we don't feel bad like anytime a soul goes astray exactly we feel bad but do we not recognize that you know warning precedes judgment and and and and there's a choice that he had to change that's all I'm saying and I'm I'm with you on that so you well I think Jacob is talking from the empathy standpoint right and what I'm saying is what happened you know what he did to my Jesus I don't feel bad for him oh Jesus but guess what but you know what the Bible say Jesus the Bible says every time we sin yes sir we crucify him crucify him a fresh that's okay I don't feel bad for me I feel bad for me I I feel no that's the shame that's the abolic coming out wred man that I am but my feeling bad does not remove a sense of accountability that should be placed upon anyone who has been walking with the Lord that's what I'm trying to say I'm saying that Judas never took upon on himself to repent where where as uh um Peter did you understand Peter pet but again they both had a Cho they they had a decision and God allowed it to be that way to make the point Jesus even said at that table he said now one of y'all is GNA betray me yeah he knew what he was doing is his decision influenced by how he was born no everybody's decision influenced by how they were born so then are you expressing the emphasis on being born again but you're saying it as if he had no choice yes but what what can't we can't be born again to after Calvary you're no you're saying to soon no I agree with what you just said but you're saying is you're saying this as if he had no choice I ain't stuttering I know what I'm talking about know my you are saying this as if he had no choice but to betray Jesus all of them Choice I'm saying that I believe that the I believe that the assignment to betray Jesus was given to Judas but I believe that Judas had it in him he he had time to repent but he did not just like Jesus told Peter I mean yeah Jesus told Peter says Simon Simon Satan desires to sift you as weed but I pray for you they both they both betrayed Jesus in some way shape or form the difference is the difference between Peter and Judas is that Peter got it right agree Judas did not that doesn't take away assignment given to Judas to betray I'm not questioning his assignment I guess I'm questioning I can understand betrayal would have happened either way I'm with my point it didn't have to be Judas it could have been any of the other disciples it had to happen all of them had the potential to make the mistake if Judas was born the son of predition he was given that assignment we all born the sons of pedition I think that's the that's the distinction do we give him an excuse because of the circumstances around his arrival that's the dangerous part to me I hear you that's I he that you know because in24 somebody that's a get out of jail I was born to be a liive right right right I was born to be a fighter but you got to repent that's what I'm going what I'm saying is I'm saying we can't take away the fact that this is Judas assignment the difference is instead of Judas repenting he hung himself I asked the question in the beginning what separates Peter and Judas what separates is that Peter repented sounds like repentance Jud did not but Judas still had the assignment as Peter did Peter Satan desires to sift you as weed you going to betray me too you're going to deny me three times is what he told Peter oh Peter didn't have to do it but Jesus told him that he would he said before the [ __ ] Crow three times you will betray me and guess who still don't feel bad for Judas got my savior strung up on the cross feel and beat huh do you feel bad for Peter Peter's the chief Apostle we celebrate him I feel bad feel for Peter we celebrate I'm still mad about how they did my Jesus that's all it is here's here's the other thing the other thing what they did to Jes John 17 and 12 leaves it open he says in John 17:12 this is Jesus talking while I was with them referring to his disciples in the world I kept them in thy name those that thou gavest me I have kept and none of them is lost but thus he didn't say but Judas the son he said but the son of predition that the scripture might be fulfilled again Judas is the son of predition could have been you just contradicted yourself did not contradict myself because he does not say Judas he [Music] identifies the son but the son could have been anyone who allowed that Spirit to enter in it didn't have to be Judas look it up who who is Bor so come on no no I won't let you do that don't contradict the Bible how am I contradicting because the Bible clearly says Judas was born the son of pred he says I if you give me the scripture I will recant and I will say Jacobs all right he was born with the assignment I guess what I'm saying is why are we stuck why are we stuck on the born part because all of us are born the son born in shapen in iniquity that's that's only what I'm saying all of us all of us were born with a sin nature with a capacity to be Judas but the capacity to be Saul with the capacity to be someone who would make the wrong choice you got to make sure you just seal up all of your cracks so that the wrong Spirit doesn't come in that's right see see your spirit is bad no no no no that's right any word I use they take it not any not any I'm waiting I'm come on I don't mind waiting I don't mind waiting I don't mind Wai while we're waiting I've got some personal pellets if anyone needs any put them down please I've got some personal pellets if anyone needs any put those away for those of you that just coming in as we're sharing this now and there's a piny freshness Jacobs feel sorry for as you that's what he said let me because Judas is still a soul when when you read the commentaries the commentaries are saying when the scripture refers to the son of predition it is talking about Judas yes because he became the son of he fulfilled that yeah he fulfilled that the the lot was would could have fallen to anyone who chose made that decision Judas was the son of predition it's in his behavior is in his character all throughout the text oh father of all throughout the life of Judas was not Judas a thief was not Judas a betrayer from the whole time he was with Jesus was not Peter a fighter all of them had issues I age man chose did Jesus not know who he was at the table Hallelujah just like he knew who Peter was when he said Satan desires to sift you as wheat but I pray for you did he not know that Peter would betray all second Thessalonians 2 and3 let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of sin be revealed the son of predition doesn't put an Ang okay let me get in let me get in let me do it John 3:16 for God so loved the world come on he gave his only son my man that who believe in him we we all can do what y'all missing is's I'm saying I'm not saying that Judas could not way off the anointing I'm not saying an but that's what happens when preachers get together I'm not saying that Judas could not repent did y'all hear me not say that in the beginning did thank you clack what I'm saying is it was still his assignment I don't know if I like that word ass somebody had to do it my point is right now right now in your church and your church your church my church there is somebody who could possibly be the one that would betray us you just make you just got to make sure it's not youh I think the argument is all of us have a little Judas in their I agree with I agree with that you know all of us I think I think I think Jacobs has drawn the distinction that the difference between Peter and Judas is repentance that's what I don't think excusing the Betrayal I agree with that saying repentance is the hinge for man saying that Judas assignment because somebody will take that and think what it's my it was my assignment hear that now Jacob said on no no no no no let me go deeper there but I believe that we I believe that we all born in sin shape with iniquity I believe that all of us have a generational curse that's in us and that we're going to have sin that we f but we have to repent I'm not taking repentance out the equation I'm saying the difference between Judas and Peter was that Judas did not repent that's the difference between Judas and Peter but there's no difference between Judas and any of us are you not telling me are you and I agree with that but what I'm saying with what I'm saying to you is do you not believe that there is a sin nature that is within you that okay yes that's the point I'm making it's in all of us and by the way y'all we love each other we do this all the time did you hear what he said to you I heardly what he said but I I needed to say says this David says listen G listen God the reason I'm here is because I'm born in sin shape and iniquity you know my sin nature yes our sin we all have a sin nature but that iniquity that's in us may be different I may not be drawn to the same type of sin you're drawn to it's a part it becomes a part of my nature just like that Judas had this betrayal nature in him from the beginning and we see this in the trait of Judas life betrayal nature is in all we all have a sin nature you're telling me when Jesus we all have a choice to make I agree and Judas made the choice so you're telling me and anybody could have made the choice Judas made that choice cuz he let that spirit in so you saying when Jesus sat at the table he didn't know it was going to be Judas Jesus knows [Music] everything if he knows everything he knew have to do we're not questioning the the omnipotence of God yeah that a got to do what we're talking about he just say he said feel bad for Judas the empathy for the weight of the assignment of that betrayal he's saying that Jing the empathy say what you just said again he's expressing the empathy for the weight of that assignment of that betrayal thank you I appreciate expressing that you say for for the assignment that was for the assignment that J said that way on purpose yes because my issue hold but let me take but let me take a little further because Judas did not sneak in to be one of the Apostles he was chosen thank you in spite of the way he was born to betray but what does that have to do with this out that we're giving though here it is this is not giving nobody this Mark cuz he's damp I'd like to offer you some personal PS can we get for pleas got the he is in third gear I don't want your tow we don't know where that tile has been I I don't think he's not he's not making an ex I know that's he's saying defitely that's not what he's saying but somebody is listening for the purpose of hearing that and they're they're focusing Born This Way absolutely I was it's my na I'm predisposed to be messy you got to the language AG that's the part no no y'all are missing it the reason why he keeps saying is repent to remove the cloudiness of the individual that might hear this and take it the wrong way that's why he keeps hammering got to repent with repentance I said what separates Peter yes and Judas Peter and Judas is repentance he's not he's not making an occasion he's expressing empathy for a man that's about to betray Jesus because he never repented I mean I do have empathy he has no empathy for the sin he's not saying that for the man I I have empathy thank you I do I have empathy for him thank you am man so I won I'm not see see see I knew that was I knew that was on the way I was just trying to move on cuz we been on this too long wanted to win see say so I want is hilarious he did not win this one this is the ultimate Hulk versus hold let's say let's say this openly first of all y'all we do this all y'all really the same I younger was here cuz if young was here right now it' be a whole another what would you say right now younger y'all got my ears sweating y agree he agrees with me I agree with that thank you younger I appreciate that bro but you lost me and Jacob had a had a tussle but I was I'm still winning still I'm still winning oh God so I don't know what they had to do with them that was good though with the ano with the anointing good they anointed to Tesla we were talking about we feel bad for Saul cuz Saul had a vial of oil yeah he ends up taking a tragic turning and I threw in the I threw in the monkey wrench of of how we felt sorry for Sal and I said just like I feel sorry for right that's how we went down that slope okay now I'm not please hear me I am not accusing Judas sin Judas if he he could have repented but he did not he did not take the role of repentance he decided to kill himself and and where Peter did and that's why I wanted to contrast that Peter and Judas just as as we see that Saul situation you know Saul he I don't know if he ever repented I don't know but you know what he didn't have time something hit my spirit so angry once he lost the throne happens remember his final night angry remember his final night he goes God won't talk to him anymore the prophets won't talk Samuel is dead called The Witch of indor so he goes to the witch of indor conjures up the spirit of Samuel Samuel says why did you disqui me he says I need to real quick U what's going oh that's a that's what that's Necromancer weed that's a good absolutely that's a good podcast that's exactly right come back a lot of us let's talk about our churches our organizations a lot of us are dying because we only get questions or answers for the future from the past we we we have present day question what would Bishop so and so do Bishop Samuel is dead right you know what is God saying today saying now we only know how to get answers tomorrow from the graveyard that's dangerous another conversation of the day but Samuel says because you've done this tomorrow you and your sons are going to be with me yeah yeah and so the Bible then says what does Saul do he passes out so that mean he he never he he passes out it never says that he and this is the thing let's and let's let's go back he's so overwhelmed let's go back to that that Judas and I think and I think here's the danger a lot of us sin and because of the pain of it we never repent we let bitterness settling like Judas like Saul and I think that's one of the one of the one of the one of the sneaky intentions of sin to get us so lost so so upside down that we can't get our way back Judas back to Judas he was so upside down he could have repented but what did he do he took his own life can I say this real quick cuz this thing is leaping in my spirit somebody's listening right now who has made a mistake you've made a Judas like mistake a s a s like mistake and some of you you've gone so far to the point that you've become desensitized to the voice of God that's calling you back in place and you think you've gone too far for God to use you for God to love you for God to get Glory out of your life but n none of us could go far enough for God not to still want us God still wants you all you need to do is repent get it right with God green that's a word we had this conversation offline and I'm not going I'm just going to set enough so we understand yeah we see this happening with so many so many they feel like they're too they feel like they're too far and then they start saying God to reach them like now I no longer believe I no longer have faith yeah yeah yeah and so and I so we see these same things with with k you know what I mean who becomes a vagab he becomes lost we see it with Saul that vagab Spirit doesn't just mean that you're wandering away from away you know out in the streets just lost you could be in the house and be wandering yeah you could be in the church and be a wander the prodal son was not the only one who left the one that stayed was prodigal as well there there are a lot of prodigals who never left yep and and and because of because of disappoint disappointment with how God handled us yep or disappointment with how God handled our situation we get angry we get bitter or even the shame of it the shame of it makes us angry and bitter and because of that we we never return we never return and and I think I think that is the prayer Lord strengthen the body yeah that that When sin is found out that it doesn't it doesn't destroy our revelation of the love of Christ for us yeah yeah I I know we never really do this but I I want everybody that's listening right now who this is reaching you I just want you to put in the comments I'm coming back I'm coming back this is your season to come back huj to come back in the Covenant to come back in relationship this is your time to come back you're not too far gone absolutely you're not too far gone for God to anoint you and you can't accept church people to receive you as Christ has come on cuz church folks sometime will never let what you've done go but if you fall in love with Christ and if you just keep Christ as your Center then God will do the rest he'll restore I love how you keep saying Christ that he is the anointed one it's not Jesus's last name it isn't it is a representation of the indwelling endorsement and power of God on the inside of his son who is God wrapped in the flesh and when he dies the same spirit that quickened Christ from the grave will raise your mortal body I don't care how you are dying in sin The Same Spirit the same Grace the same anointing will Quicken your consciousness you Jesus to come back to your right mind to turn from your wicked ways it does not have to end with you hanging yourself on a tree come on don't hang yourself don't be a Wanderer don't be like Saul don't walk in Rebellion don't run don't run to the witch because God is not answering fast enough that's good that's good I believe that's how you activate your anointing yeah come on it's it's not about don't wait to get a mic yeah you're not anointed because you got a mic you get anointed when you come back to the altar when you come back to Christ Christ and you allow him to live in you that that's the beginning to this whole anointing conversation we're talking about it starts with Christ so Witch is not a win don't be so desperate for conversation that you lend yourself to stuff that's not God and and and the witch is the spirit of manipulation and a lot of times the witch is is not always a person it could be a liquor bottle it could be it could be a drug of addiction it's it's your source for an answer be internal conversations with sometimes I W make you too upset sometimes you doing witchcraft on yourself you know what bless about that text the Bible says when you look at that actual text Saul here's here's here's here's the the crazy thing Saul himself had outlawed that's right witchcraft in Israel Saul out so there's a less than every preacher here he finds himself doing the thing he preached against I'm stealing it Saul outlawed necromancy at and and black magic he did it he goes to the Witch and here's the crazy thing here's what really blesses me about the text he says yeah um again now he goes under cover of darkness in Disguise which let you know he knows this isn't that right but when he pitches to the to to The Witch uh you know I need you to do this the witch has enough sense to warn him this is the grace of God the witch says I don't think we should do this Saul when a witch warns watch this Saul says this is a bad IDE idea yeah Saul then once again hits override yeah on the the witch is reminding him this is great do this is good this is illegal he then tells the witch it'll be okay Mark the witch is reminding Saul of Saul when he was sober when he was sober you got rid of us when you were in God's hand shouted me I'm telling you and I don't want to have to have a witch remind me of who I am or to bring you to sobriety the which had more conviction than the king did in the 2024 I don't think this is going to come what in the 2024 I don't think this is a good idea I don't think this is a good idea I don't think this is a good idea override watch this how many times have we heard this is not a good idea and still with it and still move forward do it again that thing grabbed him though in his Mercy have mercy Lord that's in his Mercy something is screaming this is not listen to me don't y'all ignore this something is screaming in your heart this is not a good idea not you remember when you remember why we're talking about David and anointed you remember why um joab and Abner was such a tragedy the Bible says David weeps because Abner said he died like a fool his hands were not fed joab kills him but why does joab kill him joab kills him because Abner killed his little brother how did he kill his little brother little boy was known for his speed and he is chasing after Abner the older man the older more experienced Soldier he warns him little boy leave me alone yeah he keeps running after him he warns him again the Bible say second time you should stop you don't want to do this you don't want to do this he keeps running the Bible says he turns his spear backwards and the boy is running so fast run he runs into the end of the spear and dies how many times have we chased something that is warning us leave me alone leave me alone the the cigarette bottles cigar cigarette bottle cigarette p says on the side this going to cause cancer it's still a billion dollar industry it told you it was dangerous leave me alone that woman told you you don't want none of this you don't want this I'm going get you don't want none of this I'm going to get you you better stay away songwriter said that girl songwriter said and you ran on after and ended up you you back to that whole override thing which is why I don't feel bad for Judas but again the point is I only feel bad cuz he didn't repent I understand that's what I'm saying I'm I'm going back to and I'm going back to what Nate was originally saying Nate was and even if it could have been any of them and I'm thinking we all have been there where we have crucified Christ aresh and I think that and especially when you see someone who has walked with the Lord MH and and after Walking with God you walk away this you do this and don't doesn't that raise a question and my heart breaks for that for sure for sure but I guess I wrestle and I don't have an answer but I do wrestle I don't understand how you can actually walk with God and leave him and then walk away cuz my question is the B says you were never with me that that that that's kind of what they might have walked in in in a stage on a platform they might have walked I know where you're going I know where you're going you just walked into it you about to say it CU cuz guess what you were never with me what I knew it was coming are you seeing what he saying no he ain't seen it yet ain't come to him if you were never with me it's in the comments they see what he say then you were born the son that's not what that's that's a terrible leap that's a terrible leap that's not what that means at all no no many will say we preached in your name we prophesying your name he'll say what I never knew you okay and what never knew you but that doesn't how how you justifying Judas with this jacob I'm only just CU because what does that to me that proves the opposition more than anything so prove it cuz Okay you first of all let's let's let's stay on track you're taking all you're taking the personal responsibility out of it to those that are not listening carefully to what you're actually saying they're hearing this they're hearing this as an as an out and as an excuse no no I'm not that's what that's not what you're saying that's probably how they're hearing but that's what they're hearing saying is and I'm I'm born it can't not my fault but what I'm listen what I'm I was never saying that he was born to to go to hell I'm saying that he was born with an assignment that he could have repented of but he didn't take the he didn't take the repentance I'm with you on that that's what I that's what I've been trying to say I said what separates Judas and Peter Peter repented Judas did not that's all I'm saying from from the door I'm saying that but now what you are saying tell me when you took what I heard and now y'all correct me clack attention I am I'm with you what I heard was you said how could you walk with Christ MH and after walking with Christ you betray him to the point so my question is were you ever really with him that's my question I still don't see how that becomes I'm tell you let me tell you how watch this cuz I'm going tell you I feel like it's a case by case scenario I've seen I've seen people who really loved God green can you go back and read I'm still saying how do you really know him I'm not justify here's the case by case it's it's backsliding yeah the backslid he's married to so I I can leave but he did not tear divorce he leave paper but I do want green to go back and read that text you just read in John chapter 17 around vers to will oh you got it I don't have read but green will get it read read this is what's scary about it this is what's scary about that cuz watch what green about to read he says I lost none but the one who was never with me while I was with them in the world I kept them in thy name those all right got to come back for you those that thou gavest me I have kept and none of them is lost but the son of predition that the scripture might be fulfilled what your he said while I was with them is he and he's still saying it could have been anybody it could have been anyone the the assignment existed I don't I don't argue that I I agree that it existed but it could have rested upon anyone who made the decision was what scar any of would would you disagree that any of them could have betray no I'm not disagreeing with that that's all I want to know okay since we fighting I won again I got a question no I want have I I wonder you you didn't win that I did win that you didn't not win that I did win that who who who won that know who won he didn't win I did win uhuh since we fighting though let me ask you this I've heard we're not fighting we're having just're having healthy conversation when we in this they going to fight for real over crab legs preferably right well maybe not this so let me ask this though what are y'all's thoughts cuz I've heard both sides can God or how do I frighten the question right does God take his anointing from someone CU I've heard I've heard it I've heard both sides argued well look at you mess up you you so and so is not anointed anymore from the aspect of appointment into an office or a duty yes yes you won't lose your gift but from the indwelling and the power yeah but the anointing can now there there is a now a question about this I think people mix it they they confuse the conversations when they ask about the Holy Spirit M right can I lose the Holy Spirit okay then now that I mean again you can grieve no man take you out of my hand what does that look like because I've again I've heard both sides the anointing the Holy Holy Ghost of you lost it did did they I mean Saul again Saul is out of the will of God but even David verified if I'm honest Mark the Lord's anointed I feel like that's something that God weighs himself right I think we look on the outward and we depend on what we feel and sense and I think sometimes we misdiagnose I don't even I want to say feel and sense I think we stop we make people not anointed because of what we know Bingo when we know people have done things and because of what we know we say well they can't be look and the cry ain't responding to them now look at that look at that look at that look at that oh you know that's the one and I'm going tell you how many times has the crowd responded to people who were who were not anointed radically in sin but watch this you responded to them while they were in sin you just didn't know it but you just didn't know it but now that you've discovered their sin now you no longer respond and it it I it's it's it's the consciousness of the crowd it ain't the I don't want to be I want to be I I don't want to be messy again but so much of that is personality driv cuz let's be very clear there are some people and I'm literally speaking you know generally there are some people that people know abc123 but we love rev yeah oh yeah and it don't matter what you say it's and I'm I'm not going to say personality driven as much as I'm going to say gift driven well but okay but again I'm going to go back to personality because there are some people that are equally gifted we don't like you as much what will we told the other night sometimes you're going to win because of the crowd determined you would win yeah they've already because they love you so much and they enjoy you so oh he going to kill D don't matter what you say it don't matter to half what you saying ain't biblical it's just because it's you we've seen examples of people that we love he say you could be any of us you right over there you know we've seen cases of people okay I I won't even use Church to avoid you know any confusion music all right Stevie Wonder in my opinion is one of the absolute greatest musical Minds ever I have seen Steve Steve is a lot older than than than I think we realize been doing since the 50s essentially little Stevie Wonder I've seen performances where Stevie was not the Stevie that we fell in love with right I don't know if the sound wasn't right whatever whatever but you know what they did when he got finished Miss notes and all they stood up and they said wow why because that's we have such an esteem for who he is and what he is meant that we we our honor demanded that we receive something okay so here here's the wrestle cuz I age with you Mark I think the wrestle is is that we serve a God who will allow people to do things in his name and be productive and be willing to send them to hell cuz gifts and callings come without repentance Lord Lord in that day we did this in your name we did that and he's going to say wonderful you were productive with my name but you can't come to the next right I never knew you so I think because of that it's hard for the Pew or us to distinguish who has God's anointing at times and who doesn't if we're basing it off of Proto ity which is why now I believe the anointing is the keeper the New Testament explanation of it is the holy spirit now the anointing on the inside of me helps me resist stuff that will put me and God at odds but it go back clack to what we were talking about before I believe that there's two oils yes I believe there's an inner oil we talked about before to keep your lamp burning and I believe that there is a smearing that sanctifies you for purpose hey man that's good um who was it was it uh David who talked about the anointing how it what did he say oh how good and how pleasant it is for Brethren to dwell together in unity for it is like the oil that ran down Aaron's beard even unto the bottom of his skirts I'm grateful to God that my oil didn't come from a bottle yeah my oil came from a beard and there's something that God had already planted in me but had not I sat under Samuel green yeah I wouldn't carry the fullness of what I carry I'm following not I sat under had not I sat under J Drew she I sat under noers I would not carry I would not carry the oil that I carry right now and I think that's that's the other thing who is your oil submitted to I agree yeah who yeah absolutely who unlocks it it took Samuel absolutely to pour the oil on David to unlock it whether he broke the horn or whether the wax melted and wait and the anointing didn't stop with Samuel that was the first of three anointing yeah it came in pieces but can we agree that that oil that Samuel pours on him is the one unto an office absolutely yes Samuel could not pour on him what God already identified about his heart absolutely Samuel's work just confirmed he got that was all of affir that was all of affirmation which means someone has to affirm the call and the oil on your life and rejoice David because they can't see it on the outside who sent you yeah who sent you oh yeah oh yes on the musicians are giving us a sign is that what that is the musicians giving listen I think we're going a little far here did we do well tonight was good this might require a a part two here might require a part two so listen what closing thoughts we want to give them about the anointing cuz we've spent half the episode with these two fighting me me and me and cl are just trying to push product that's all [Music] hallelujah we're going to mute both of them and let them fight in secret see your spirit is bad what we want you to do we want you to make sure you subscribe want 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