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Lecture on Privacy Concerns with Google and Big Tech

this ISS Rossman talking about that Google was listening to his conversations Rossman the man all right let's let's let's listen to this one this it it sounds so wild it's hard to believe so Google takeout is a thing where you can download any information that Google has on you in 2019 I lost my Archive of all my YouTube videos so I thought I'll just download them all from YouTube and while I'm scrolling through because it's taking forever to load one of the tabs just had of curiosity I'm looking at the other stuff they have on me and most of it was kind of boring and then I come to this one section that says transcriptions and I go and I take a look I click transcriptions and I see 2019 and I see all these weird things that sounded like arguments with my girlfriend and I was kind of confused because I actually got along with the woman I was with at the time so why do I have these things that look like arguments and it wasn't from 2019 my brain just kind of inserted the one there where it wasn't supposed to be these were actually arguments from 2009 10 years ago because every single thing that I had ever said into my phone was being logged by Google not only uploaded with audio recording so I could download it and listen to angsty 19-year-old me arguing with my girlfriend but I could also read all the transcriptions of everything that was said Google had this feature called voice the text which I thought was pretty cool I had come from a Blackberry Storm back in 2008 and I just did not want to type into a phone anymore I do voice the text I don't want to type anymore wait a moment request your data damn it now I kind of want to request my data okay so I'm going to be real for a second I always felt like these companies are lying right cuz there's that one there's that thing that recently recently L happened maybe two or three years ago with Facebook where Facebook was like Hey you know like they had a Shazam clone or something that you can discover any uh song but it doesn't go and use the internet you can just discover any song and it has a classifier and I sit there thinking how in the world does it know of every single song ever and new songs without apparently sending data to the like that doesn't I I'm having a hard time understanding this and this had to be like 3 four years ago right finger I know there's fingerprinting but there the magnets I just don't I just don't even get but how do they keep on doing that right and so I was I was very confused by this and I realized that if you look just right in their terms of uh conditioning they they attempt to use your microphone at all times and that's kind of wild how much these companies are actually listening and it does freak me out a bit but I never know how much of society that you should throw away to avoid these things I do struggle on this one or let's get continue on this one I said ever this was very creepy because if somebody had hacked my email account you know usually I just delete all the emails that I have just in case something like that happens I didn't even know this information was being logged so I had no way to actually find it and delete it and many people would say something along the lines of well you probably agreed to that and unfortunately that let be real they're probably right you know when you uh install Microsoft Windows how many people here have ever read the entire end user license agreement I had a friend who own read every single Ula he ever signed or ever agreed to every last one of them like literally it would take him an entire day to get through these things I bet it was TJ it was not TJ well Thor too Thor does it too and you know not surprised when I was at when we were at open sace when we were at open sace together uh when we when we had to sign something uh to go to like a special place that you were not supposed to like take any pictures of and do all this kind of stuff um one of the things we had to do was sign like an NDA and Thor and I seemed to be the only people that stopped and was like hold on what does this have to say we are the only ones to uh to be uh to be reading through what we were about to sign and everyone seemed to be just like oh yeah I'll sign I'll go and it's just like whoa whoa whoa don't sign something people read exactly and there in every YouTube comment you'll typically say I read the license like no you don't just shut up no no you don't no you don't [ __ ] you for even like claiming that you do [ __ ] no you don't and you know this is something I remember talking about I say the same thing when I say people don't want technical content on YouTube I know everyone in chat there's going to be like 10 people in chat right now that'll be like I wish there was deep technical content on YouTube you don't actually do that okay because none of you actually do that you guys say you want to but you end up watching Mr Beast or you watch asmin gold and you say all these things I know I know you say that I know I know you say that you don't you don't you don't actually okay here's the reason why cuz deep technical content requires you to pause everything you're doing and slowly watch it over and over and over again to really understand it you don't actually want that no one is going to sit there for two days to learn this 30 minute uh viewing okay it's just it's just not true cuz if that was the case the views on something that's hyper technical would literally be in the millions or the tens of millions cuz you'd have to do it over and over and over and over and over and over again you know what I mean like it's just it's just lies you guys are all lies all lies a few months ago with the Sony Discovery thing so there are people and when you go to Sony's Online content purchasing platform it'll say purchase it uses the word purchase there were people that spend $15 buying something not streaming but buying it and it just disappeared from their Liv library and if you read the endus of license agreement I did on on a live stream you have to get to page 21 to read legal ease that only chat GPT can decipher if you're not a lawyer to figure out on page 21 what you purchase is a temporary license that can be revoked at any time by Sony for no good reason and this is something that is pretty crazy that you could actually buy something that they can just take away are all digital stores the same I the thing is I don't care about DRM I DRM is kind of shitty and it's stupid in some sense um but I I at least at least there's a moderate aru argument about DRM but you should be able to buy and thus own that content in which you have it forever that's I mean it is confusing it is confusing that you can literally buy something and then actually get nothing out of it I or you can lose it you pay for a license yeah you know Netflix did a really kind of amazing idea which was that you can actually have a subscription service for software that is like great for normies to have right like like Netflix really pioneered the Normie subscription software where we can all have it and it's fantastic but now that everything is subscription service and you just own nothing it's pretty annoying it's pretty effing annoying I I am I am totally over subscriptions I am completely over it and I want nothing to do that blame Netflix it could be Netflix's fault it could be we definitely like whenever somebody whenever uh like Corsair when they started making their course platform something that you pay uh for a subscription service it actually um they actually said ah corsera is doing this Netflix moment Jims existed forever yeah Jims existed forever but that's different right uh that's that's a physical place there's been plenty of subscription styled service things but never in like a very consumer uh focused software way something that I like to call Ula ruying end user license agreement roofying where you know te technically you could set i'm sure you but but but like if you knew what was going on you probably wouldn't with a lot of these companies you'll see if you're on Chevy's web page if you want to upgrade a new package for your wheels you're going to have font that's this big and images and videos playing on the website to advertise that feature but the section of their site that goes over the fact that they're selling your data to Lexus Nexus which then goes to insurance companies to see every single time you've quickly accelerated that that's on page 300 of a 353 Page by the way they're actually using this now inside of insurance so get this my mom when she renewed her insurance they said she had to do uh she had to do 90 days of being a monitored to determine the level of insurance they want to give her and she didn't have to install anything to be monitored new car by the way I drive a 2006 Chevy just would like everybody to know that I use a 2006 Chevy a 2006 Chevy cuz F that did Jula and this is a a problem cuz like I I like having a decent keyboard on my phone and the problem has anybody here used like any one of the standard stock open source keyboards not the one that comes with your phone by default from Google have you ever like tried using the Android open source keyboard anybody here or like any soft keyboard like okay do you ever notice that you feel like you're typing drunk when you use these keyboards versus the Google keyboard I I hate to admit it but the Google one is damn good it's just it's just better yeah and so we decide I thought the voice dictation for Dragon was actually the best I liked dragon's voice dictation over Google but then I think Google acquired them at some point the new Google Voice voice dictate feature is just like is just while got them it's not a gotam it's actually called Dragon no no stop it stop it Dragon uh voice uh to text it's it's true Dragon diction professional okay okay I know there's a lot of diction in here okay Dragon what okay no we're not Dragon nothing okay draging D dictions okay get out of here get out of here shut up decided here to try and make something better something where instead of connecting to the internet to figure out how to memorize your typing Styles it does that using a local based Ai and we also got a voice one that also works based on a local AI so you can train this thing on a regular basis it gets better as you continue using it and you can use a firewall to not allow it to connect to the internet and it will still work so for instance I could look at my phone right here super Calif fragilistic XB alidocious okay you can't see that cuz I don't fancy PowerPoint but it actually worked and you can download it here and try it for yourself and it will actually work and the best part of this is not only Google suppressing this image look Google is even suppressing this image by putting in a fake microphone you probably can't you probably can't even capture the QR code look at that YouTube doesn't want this yeah I can't capture the QR code can't even do it true and real true and real it's fake only does it work but when you have uh Google's voice DET text offline and this one offline this is faster and more accurate it inserts punctuation when you use Google's voice to text you have to say Hello exclamation point I heard you were it's not anymore that it it it now inserts stuff but it's so effing annoying I hate auto inserting of punctuation it's always like hey how are you doing but it's like hey exclamation point how are you period doing and you're just like what the what what is this dude just let me say the word per and I will tell you where the the the stuff is okay I don't want you I don't use exclamation points okay I don't want I'm not like yelling at something yeah what the [ __ ] dude I cannot tell you how many times this happens anyways this stuff is concerning how much we're actually being spied on I really don't like how this makes me feel I don't really know what to do with it though I mean it's one reason why I like using neovim is that it's just one less Vector of people buying on me I kind of feel like I don't think there's an easy way to stop it from ever happening but just having one less Vector I think is a nice is a nice step something about like for whatever reason I always have found Microsoft to be the biggest sham of them all because it's the one that pretends to be nice to developers while continuously taking advantage of them and I hate that I just hate that so dang much I just just just it just makes me I just hate it right and so it's just like if I can just avoid at least one small amount I'm happier and so I try to like leave my I try I I I don't typically like my phone near me because I I just assume that it's it's listening to me I I assume there's no way I can do anything I try to do all my texting through signal you know like I have my basic stuff but I realize that you like can you ever fight it can you ever actually get it to go away I don't think I don't think there's a world that exists where this is going to go down right I think that this will only get worse and worse and worse and I think it's going to get to the point where you can't really do it even people that say like self-hosting and all that the problem is is like if you do any of the top level Services right like any do any do anything all of those are still owned and can be taken down like you can get blocked the government can get in and get Block you at a very top level domain style right yeah Amish like the Amish is really the future if you really wish to do like Amish is the top and I just don't I actually like I realized that I don't really want to get to that point and so I just don't know what to do here and I always feel so conflicted on maybe I should be more intense about this right in town comma so I'd like to see you with this one it automatically tells when it thinks that you've taken a break that's a that's a comma versus a break that's a period sometimes I'll even put a semicolon in there further you can actually insert things into it so that people don't know that you're using voice to text a lot of the time people can tell when I'm using voice DET text could it gets certain things wrong his name is Aaron not Aaron but most voice DET text doesn't understand that so I can actually add to a personal dictionary so that it understands me better based on the words that I say it will spell my last name with two NS which is more than I can say for the New Hampshire DMV which is pretty nice and if you try it out again it's it's a fairly affordable app it's called the photo.org keboard I actually am going to I I I probably am going to try this thing out I don't know how I don't even know how how old this video is all right so this is from six days ago okay awesome yeah I actually do want to try this out I do want to try it out because I'm looking for if again if there's like an easy way to reduce one layer of getting spyed on I want to do that no ad block I have a really I have a uh I have a moral stance against ad blocks and I'm I struggle with it cuz I want ad block to prevent spying but I don't want ad block to block ads and so I have this real I have a real conundrum for those that are asking why do I have a uh ad block morality stance let me tell you is it's very very simple that a bunch of places you got to remember that behind every single website when you go to socialblade.com there's five six seven people that are working on this and they have to make their money off these ads when you block them you're taking a Dev just like you just like me and saying you know what I don't think you deserve this money I find that to be kind of hypocritical of me because if I want people to get paid for what they build and I feel like they should be able to do that then this is a problem and so I have this I have this really I have this really hard time reconciling the fact that I'm willing to take from other devs but I would not want that to me this doesn't apply to YouTube of course this applies to YouTube because YouTube still get I'm still watching this for free it's for free because people watch ads if you say no more ads and you cancel all ads YouTube does not become free anymore okay YouTube is a required pay to be able to use no I know I I normally have YouTube premium but unfortunately again my credit card the whole being taken thing I I I had to reset it and YouTube has a no grace period reset so when my stuff uh when my my when my payment lapsed which I'm waiting I think I get it in today I had 10day wait to get my stupid card out and so this 10day wait when I got it back now I have to reset everything and hopefully it comes in today hey I'm not saying I like ads I'm not none of this I hope you guys understand that I don't like ads none of this is what I want but at the same time I'm also trying to work through this idea of like what is good and what is bad and it's and I I'm having a morality problem here or maybe shall I say an ethical problem maybe maybe it's less about morality than it is about ethics I'm not really sure I'd have to think about it even further and so I really like this service I'm very happy that they give me this service for free and I'm really happy that they give the vast majority of people who watch my content this for free by showing them ads because you know what one of the reasons why I can go fulltime is that I get some small amount of money from YouTube and I'm very very uh very very happy about that and so I I I myself make money off of ads and so therefore I have this I again a huge moral quandry here which is if I make my money off of ads yet I am disallowing other people to make money off of ads then I'm I'm again I'm being very hypocritical and so I'm struggling with this concept okay and I understand some websites are very uh very aggressive have you been to Geeks for geeks it's like they hit you with like an ad then a popup ad then another ad and then your emails and then ads and then then then more ads right it sucks I'm just trying to be as real as possible here as I I feel like it's a real moral quandry application I would rather justo I I want to buy something like let me buy something will still work even if you don't pay for it Alex has told me to tell all of you that this is pre-alpha because he has very high standards for himself I personally happen to break almost anything that I touch as Harpo and anybody else here can probably attest and I have yet to break this which is pretty cool so it is technically in pre-alpha but everything works and in my opinion it works better than Google's voice to text and again you never have to connect it to the internet this is this is really really useful I could be driving and just hit a button and I can compose an entire email without ever having to look at my phone and it has less errors in it than Google's voice to text so I would suggest you try it out and also uh I'm surprised it actually has that or at least he's claiming that it has less errors than Google's voice to text because you would just assume that Google has so much information I would be shocked I think he's comparing Google's offline performance that's fair that okay so you you might be right there maybe I maybe I missed the offline performance part which could very well be true I could be missing that offline performance part um yes only offline okay okay I think it uses a local LM uh not the size it's how you use it um T Test all Scottish people come me the damn phone or go make me some text is that how it works is it did I do a do I do a pretty good job that was bad how bad was it it sounds like gibl and you can have more a you can have more AXS uh check out Google takeout if you ever Ed Google Voice a text you might oh fa Fair take Fair take on a number which one's worse or which one's better my Scottish accent which by the way is directly modeled after fat bastard from Austin Powers or my Arnold accent which one which one's worse Arnold or Scottish Scottish is worse damn Scottish worse hands down oh no I didn't realize it was that bad just 15-year-old arguments with your girlfriend and then that you may want to delete yeah no I'm dude I love that he didn't even say goodbye or thank you for listening just leaves with 15 you know you might just find 15-year-old arguments with your girlfriend just leaves like it's a YouTube video the man just treated an an audience like YouTube good job that was really really good that was really really good and I am actually really really surprised I normally don't like watching any sort of like ad type material because this obviously obviously the Futo keyboard is is this is clearly an ad of some kind and no I am not doing an ad I'm not paid to promote this uh I I thought some of his arguments against uh Netflix were generally poorly thought out or slash you didn't understand they're they're ignorant in the proper sense of the word ignorant as and he didn't have enough understanding about how this uh how the bidness actually works but I really did like this I really do like his general idea of like trying to be more Against the Grain when it comes to all this spying and so I think I'm G to try this out I think I'm GNA I I will try this out I'm gonna get it on my phony and see how it goes you know what I mean I hopefully I like it hopefully it's good I hope it's good I always get worried dragon is better I haven't used dragon in a little bit I've been trying to use the Google one and it sucks you won't try it manchest okay well I think I will it's a story with a product it's a story with a product it is a story with the product he always says to not trust him because he is not that knowledgeable well that's good I mean you shouldn't trust me either you should trust nobody but at some point you have to trust somebody because if you don't trust anybody then again what happens you you you end up having to you you have to learn when Adam met Eve for every last possible thing which then becomes imposs like it becomes impossible to do anything in society recursive trust yeah recursive no trust even the government I the government always distrust like there there's a thing that the government said not too long ago about being Quantum secure it's I think it said by 2026 you need to be Quantum secure or maybe as 27 is when the expected Quantum secure stuff you should be but how I generally take this is that when the government says to do this it means that the government probably already had everything to break all of your Quantum all of your RSA and all that stuff probably by like 2023 in some sort of lab that you don't know about that's kind of how I think about it is that when the government tells you that something might happen in this amount of time it means they've probably already done it well before they ever told you like well well before they already told maybe they did it in 2013 you know they're like they're already they're already way past them because you got to remember that you know that stealth jet that came out a long time ago the first ever stealth jet and people are like whoa it's crazy like they had this stealth jet in the 60s and nobody knew about it until the 80s just like think about how Wild that is yeah cuz it was stealth yeah duh um anyways I just don't trust anything they say you know what I mean that's I think that's a better way to go about it that's how I think about it is I think it's just a better way to go about is that you probably should just not trust the government and TR anything and probably don't trust big Tech anytime big Tech is saying they want to be something like I know that right now like in the big Tech world there's the whole Elon side of things right the whole Elon side of things uh versus I I don't know who he's versing Google I'm not sure who he's versing Jack dorsy I don't know whatever whatever the other side is right you know there there appears to be two sides of tech right or Zuck maybe or Sam timman um here's what I think here's what I think this guy would probably be willing to spy on you and probably does this guy probably is willing to spy on you and and probably is okay there probably neither of these two are great moral bedrocks of our CI civilization okay they probably are both glad to take any opportunity to spy on you and so when people you know when people try to do this thing where they're like oh no like anyone that says Sam Alman is Good Sam Altman probably has the highest chance to be the person that ruins our world like out of anybody that has the chance to do it Sam alman's probably going to be the guy that actually screws us all like right now probably most dangerous person then maybe Elon Musk or people at Google do to search results right these are all very dangerous things and people got to quit making this like these odds stupid things uh it's not that I don't trust billionaires there's some billionaires that have nothing to do with Gathering my information but they probably also do really shady things you know the reality is that you should probably trust nobody that's trying to sell you something if they're trying to sell you something they're probably not trustworthy the name is the primagen