the the workshop that i attended that you did really changed a lot of the ways that i looked at things but it also solidified that i was on the right path you know we're both dj's so yes sir [Laughter] good stuff good stuff well code keepers we're in for a great conversation tonight you know of course i'm a bruh i'll make a sci-fi fraternity but i have one of my other friends with it he wears gold as well and you wear black and gold right that's right the black and old gold absolutely okay yeah i have the purple and no gold they had a black and old gold it's all good code keepers ready for another great episode of get uncovered all right welcome to get on code the fly guy show which is a series of melanated conversations focused on empowerment health wealth and knowledge itself people think in binary choices because they are conditioned to and on the wall was a picture of a wolf and a lion i think the wolf was the democratic party the lion was the republican but the drug trade and all these illegal stuff that uh people do that's still economics it's just that they couldn't do it in a traditional system we're talking about melanated wealth so we can build wealth but we just for some reason don't seem to be able to transfer you had a great experience fine that means nothing what were you told as a child about education you had to be how many times better every impression without an expression becomes depression all right code keepers hey we're ready for another great episode and i have dr sean woodley with us and the great thing about this brother you know fraternity aside is he's a hamtonian so salute to hamptonians but tell us a little bit about yourself hamtonia thank you so much i appreciate the opportunity to come and engage in this conversation on your platform i wanted to you know just first acknowledge you and what you're doing here in some phenomenal phenomenal work i've known you from for quite some time now and i appreciate everything that you're doing and sharing this space with me so thank you first and foremost my name is uh dr sean woodley and i am the architect behind the educator movement teach hustle inspire the teach is about how we unlock intellectual treasure when these students walk into the learning environment each and every day our objective is one thing how do we get them from where they are to where they need to be and that's not just academics by the way um the hustle i'm a 90s hip hop bad boy fan so the hustle is about how we can't stop learning and we're going to stop learning and then the inspire is a foundation to it all it's about how we spread love and light and so i have the mission and pleasure of spreading the message of teach hustle inspire with the workshops and keynote speaking engagements that i do in the training and professional development that i do for schools and districts across this country um traditionally that have been underserved undervalued and under loved under love that's an inch way put in yeah man because when you think about it that's that's what it is that we are talking about children who not have only been underserved but that underserved is under loved they're not valued some depending on your zip code and you and you we all know what i'm talking about your zip code can determine and for a lot of places the value and the resources that are provided there wow wow well hmm well you know what's interesting is if the zip code can determine so much of a person's school experience that varies that just is so different than what we hear politically you know you know here in virginia we have a race right now for the lieutenant for the governor and lieutenant governor and i hear from both sides that hey we need to raise the standards so we need to you know raise the standards and our children will do better so but as an insider i often question that but you're the you know you're the guru so you know what can really lead us to higher outcomes will raising standards lead us to higher outcomes no because that in not to sound cliche but we've been there and done that before the really the underlying question behind that is whose standards because if you look at the standardized tests that we have now the objectives they're all based on someone's experience many times it's not the experience of children and people that look like you and i and so when we talk about those standards and even expectations to meet those standards it's really about what narrative what end game if you will are they based upon when we really examine and peel back the layers we find that there is disparity in those standards and who they work for and who they serve interesting interesting that leads me to another question if if raising standards alone won't help if the zip codes impact uh so negatively and i guess in some ways some positively um is there a way to really address the achievement gap that we're having in our schools particularly those schools that support children that look like us yes that that word achievement gap is it's a it's a buzzword that's been in education prevalently for several years now and if you really think about what the achievement gap is saying it's saying inherently like if you look at the data it will tell you that there are certain types of children that can't learn essentially that's what it is you have your exceptions of course to every single rule but that's what the achievement gap implies whether it is children based on race ethnicity zip code um certain poverty levels things of that nature there's some circumstance that determines how a child or if a child can learn which is problematic it's not really at the end of the day an achievement gap more so than it is an instructional gap we when we are prepared to become teachers we're prepared to teach the average child we're prepared to teach the average child in average instructional ways and if you really think about it the average child does not technically exist there is not one child on this that you will find in your classroom there's not one child that you will find in your school there's not one child that you will find in this world that fits that description of the average child we are taught to teach even if you take it further with the idea of differentiating yes differentiating instruction is important but at the end of the day that differentiation is based on an average when you think of it and you try to separate the academic from the from the whole child and who that child is in the relationship aspect in the identity aspect in the cultural aspect then you begin to add new levels and dimensions to teaching and learning that has to be at the foundation of it the way that we are taught to become educators it has nothing to do with it and we end up becoming up familiar if we ever even become familiar with these facets of instruction later on in professional development or if we should just happen to read a book about it it's not the core it's not it's not the foundation of what it is to be an educator and it is absolutely critical to make sense we have we have to understand how our students make sense of the world because what's happening is we're teaching and they're not learning so we're not if they're not learning the way that we teach we have to teach the way these students learn you mentioned a book and i wanted to take this moment to uh push your book mc means move the class mc means move the class dr sean woodley phd how to spark engagement and motivation in urban and culturally diverse classrooms how long did it take you to write this book well to actually write it it's maybe close to eight months maybe a year something along those lines but that is based off of my experience going on over at that time maybe 10 12 years and i i wrote the book it's a play on words as a fellow dj you understand it's a play on words from eric b and rakim mc means to move the crowd and while i was teaching in the classroom i was a full-time teacher but i was also a dj and so there would be many a time where i would go from the classroom to the club and there were just so many things that i realized okay hold on when i'm in this club i'm trying to get these people to motivate trying to motivate them to be engaged i'm trying to help them have a good time when i'm in the classroom i'm trying to do the same thing when i'm in this club hold on i'm making real-time decisions because if this record didn't land right then i have to i have to know where to go and how far to go if i'm in the classroom this lesson doesn't land right i have to do the same exact thing wait hold on when i'm in this club so i'm i'm making all of these i'm recognizing all of these similarities whether i'm in the classroom or i'm in the club and what my research showed me is that there are four critical areas that i focus on in the book then i use some alliteration i focus on the achievement about making the instruction culturally relevant and responsive i focus on the alliance the connection and relationship building i focus on the awareness as educators we have to be aware of self to make sure that that relationship aspect are we somebody that our students want to relate to in the first place turning that mirror on ourselves and then the artistry the creativity facet of it how can we bring more of our true authentic self into the classroom take these lessons and these standards and objectives that we're giving them and make them genuine authentic engaging experiences and that's all rooted in creativity well i i like what you're saying let's bring it down to the nitty-gritty okay what needs to change in our urban schools and i'm being politically correct i'm going to ask it in a different way in a second but what needs to change in our urban schools this this goes back to kind of just what i mentioned before the it's it's a lot about the mindset of what good teaching and learning looks like and it's often too much it's often it's too often focused on the instructional the tactical things that we do as educators teaching is not a tactical profession teaching is a relational profession we're not talking about interacting with we're not talking about interacting with devices we are talking about human to human connection and when that is not at the root of instruction i mean and you know this as an educator if you know that there are children that you are connected with those children will move mountains for you they those are the ones when you are connected authentically with those students you know that if there is something that they don't understand they're much more likely to actually communicate that they don't understand it until instead of waiting until after the assessment to tell you why and i didn't understand that they're more likely to let you know when things are happening that can interfere with them engaging in instruction and engaging in the teaching and learning in the middle of class instead of just being you know laid back and and just apathetic for for lack of a better word in the moment when you're connected with those students not only do they want to do better for you just because they look up to you just because they respect you and they know that you value them but they want to do better for themselves and that builds on something that is critical in the classroom efficacy lack of effort lack of motivation a lack of just will to do better is all a lack of efficacy and efficacy is fueled with connection believing in yourself do i believe that i can actually do this why even try if there's no belief there that i can actually do it or that there's no benefit for me that kind of leads me to one of the things that i've seen some of my peers struggle with and i may struggle with as well students tend to do better if they like the teacher oh yeah if they like the classroom oh yeah so you know i hear repeatedly i don't like that classroom i don't like that teacher i can't stand the people in that class um how do we change if that's the experience that students are sharing what do we do about it we have to understand where that disconnect is coming from there are a lot of different places that the disconnect can be rooted in i really what i what my research has told me is that it's focused in three main areas our connection with the work itself does it speak to the student and how they make sense of the world not how you want them to make sense of the world but is there instruction framed in a way that can naturally blend in with how that student sees things a connection with his or her peers collaboratively is there an opportunity for that student to engage with his or her peers to learn from people who make sense of the world the same way he or she does and also a connection with the teacher that teacher that relationship when that connection is there on all three of those levels that is an environment that is warm and friendly i didn't say easy but it is warm and friendly and opens the opportunity for you to push that student and more importantly that student will let you push them that student will let you push them okay so that's interesting that means that the student has to provide you some uh agreement permission they have yeah they have to give you permission wait wait wait that's totally averse to what we're taught as educators the classroom is hours we have to get the students to move but you're saying that they have to we have to obtain some level of permission to really be an effective teacher with there there is i what i don't want to imply is that there shouldn't be authority the teacher is the authoritative figure what i am saying though is that the authority without respect and connection is simply manipulation and that is not going to get you where you need to where that's not going to get that child where he or she needs to be it's not going to happen because now what's going to happen is if i feel like that you are trying to dictate things that i'm trying to do as opposed as opposed to leading me and think about it think about it in these terms we as adults if we know that the leader the leader of our building a leader in our organization we know that there's a difference between somebody who is a manager versus someone who is a leader and it is the same exact thing it's the same type of connection students don't want to be managed they want to be effectively and authentically led and that starts with that connection wow that's that's that's a new thought that's new thought that's new thought um okay so wow i tried to let that marinate for a moment let it simmer for a little bit let it simmer yeah yeah let that uh just kind of stir there in the pot little bubble for a moment well you talked about urban schools is that the same for our schools in general oh yeah it it there are depending on demographics depending on situations there are spec there are certain differences um in resources mentality things of that nature but there are some fundamental there are some things that are fundamentally broken in education period for example we've been operating off of the same education system for 100 plus years the way that the education system was originally designed is literally what we function with today okay well if we're dealing with an old design there needs to be some things that change and that's not just urban school that's throughout you know the united states what are some general things that need to change in our schools i'll say this again putting relationships first also understanding that we have to be more cognizant of bringing more real life into the classroom and that can be done like for example when we talk about things like culturally responsive teaching and then you hear ideas about project-based learning a lot of people don't understand without getting too far into it when you have project-based learning if you think of something that brings real-world application into the context of and what is often multi-disciplinary science and some social studies wrapped up in there with a little bit of math for calculations and things of that nature making it make sense because it's real world applicable that because of how it has to be done not what it's being taught but how it is taught that's culturally responsive teaching in action because many times what has to happen is real world application collaborative working and challenge curiosity and collaboration are at the root of that you you that is that is a formula for success but that is again that's a that's an afterthought a lot of times with instruction there is separate and often very intense training that has to happen to understand those concepts when if that was something that was learned at the beginning of our desire and our need to be instruct instructors and and teachers of the children of the future we could more easily infuse that but what happens is we teach a lot of times the way that we are taught instinctively and even when we try new things and it doesn't work instead of having the resilience to move on and to keep trying it make tweaks we revert back to the old way because it's our comforter if it's on our comfort zone even when it doesn't work um well what are some uh proven methods to make sure that you know your your educational experience that you provide is top of game top of the game well there there's if if you go to my my website at teachhustleinspire.com there's a free resource that i open for educate uh offer for educators to help them be at the top of the game um some of those things include number one making sure that you take the time to do you that it's rooted in you you as the educator i'm talking about doing things to make sure that you surround yourself with the right people because if you were to look around you right now and see the type of educators that you can surround that you surround yourself with statistically it's very likely that you all have similar outcomes as far as student achievement it's the same way with economics and it's the same way with relationship types who are you surrounding yourself with who are you pouring into and helping to become a better educator are you taking time to laugh and detach from this work as an educator are you taking time to be creative one of the things that i did as an educator a lot of times is i would wear fly socks i was known in my building for wearing fly socks and i would come in there and i got to the point where the students would want to see well what socks does mr woodley have one today i was being my true authentic self and i got to express my creativity in fashion so you know the the way that this piece was written it's just to get you to think outside of some things and put yourself first which is it which it is okay to do a lot of times we feel guilty about doing that we're not very good at it but that's what this is rooted in what is it that you can do to pour into yourself to make sure that you are putting you first to be at the top of your game and so anybody can go back to your website and look for that book uh that pdf and just click it and they can download it it's right on the homepage teachhustleinspire.com okay hey what do we find when we go to your facebook page well the facebook page is basically the way that i interact um via social media between social between facebook um instagram and twitter i'm pretty much there every day and i'm always sharing updates i travel a lot and work with a lot of schools and school districts and so i'm always sharing updates about what is happening on the road always share um different excuse me motivational quotes and and things that are happening in the world of education or in my world to kind of engage with my audience um i celebrated a birthday earlier this week so i just you know anything that's happening in my life um many times i share it there via social media beautiful well uh happy birthday brother thank you happy birthday yes yes um one of the things that i think can happen and needs to happen is that the the community the parents the students and the community in general um haven't really done a really good job of advocating for the changes and the improvements and their interests in education you know if we're gonna buy into something it really needs to serve us on the outside now you know we've had a lot of parents recently showing up and tripping at the school board meetings oh yeah what critical race theory and the masks mandates and other things which got me to thinking you know that there could be a way for outsiders you know the the consumer you know the final consumer the final customer the student the parent and the community that the students and parents live in to really bring to the table some things that will make the schools better aligned with their interests so are there anything that students and parents can do to take action to improve the school experience yes but it's difficult and let me explain what i mean by that yes there are opportunities for parents and students to be more involved in what is happening at the school because the school should be a community serving organization it is based in and the children that go to the school are often a part of the immediate community and so they should work hand in hand here's the reason why it's difficult especially for people of color black people in particular the school is a part of a system you have the classroom you have the school you have the school which is a part of district you have the district which is a part of the state school system etc there has never been a time in the history of these united states when there has been a system that has continuously benefited black people that includes the schools that includes the judicial system that includes criminal justice system that includes housing system health care system there's never been a time in the history of these united states when we have benefited continuously from systems so what we see a lot of times with schools are people who themselves have not had good experiences in the education system and then they have to put their children through that same thing i mean i can think of my own experience and maybe you have something similar in the 13 years that i was in the k-12 system from kindergarten all the way through 12th grade i can count on one hand how many good years that i have when teaching and learning is supposed to be an authentic it's supposed to be an engaging it's supposed to be a wonderful and pleasant experience but it's not so from especially for black people and people of color and so here it is and this also connects to and that you didn't ask this but it has implications for the pipeline of teachers as well if i didn't enjoy something go going through it why would i now want to go back and work in it so you know we we have at play here a larger issue at the macro and even at the micro level of a system that we have to go against so if i haven't had a good experience in this why would i now want to engage with it whether it is working in a professional manner or either working to support it you have your parents and you have your community members that do but i believe that the reason that we don't have more support is because of the system that is fighting against us a lot of times intriguing and that brings up a lot of the hip-hop songs that you and i uh listen to and maybe some of the r b songs i don't know but there have been a lot of songs where we've been really critical of the schooling system that we've gone through um dead prez famously said they t-h-e-y they schools can't teach us and i'll keep it clean um our people need freedom i want to get all i can get all my all those high school teachers can explain expletive teaching us white man lies straight bull more explicit expletive so so what you just said is since we've had a bad experience with the schools we don't want to go back and fix them we don't want to go into them and when our children go we're not really joyous about their experience and helping them create a better experience so you said earlier that it can happen it's not happening and it would be challenging yeah so what can happen even though it's challenging what can we do well it starts with the understanding that things need to change and what can happen and why i work so hard working with educators um across this country is to bring more of an awareness that we are in a broken system and trying to do what we can to change it from the inside out there are people who at all different levels you have your people who i have a colleague here in the atlanta area who's running for a local office and he's trying to do what he can from the outside in my focus is more so from the inside out to help teachers change that mindset and change their their thinking it's here's the thing i i wholeheartedly believe from the depths of my soul that the vast majority of teachers that are in each and every one of these classrooms wants what is best for their students they're operating in a system that is not designed for their students to be successful and don't even realize it so here it is you going into the learning environment each and every day trying your hardest and getting mediocre results if all and it's just and we wonder why we're burnt out so if i can help to shift the thinking and to help to shift the mindset help therefore to shift the strategies and the actions that are taken now we can begin to see and shift the tide of what is happening in education but it all starts it starts up here it starts with being aware because when we shift our awareness and beliefs it shifts our actions and when we shift our actions that's when that when the results change so it can be done but even in those instances when those shifts happening happen we're still operating in a larger system that is still broken wow wow it's a lot still broken the system is still broken so when when you know those of us create our own independent schools our independent black schools are uh you know like you know dr umar is still trying to put together the frederick douglass marcus garvey academy there are some other great examples of schools that charter schools that actually work in columbus ohio there's a really great system they have some great schools there that are charter schools in virginia uh and virginia beach is a great charter school although it's system run but still a great school um so there have been options where opportunities where people have created their own schools yes yes the the fact that there is a need to do i'm sorry go ahead no no finish i love what you were going i love where you're going go ahead i was just going to say the fact that there is a need for people to create their own schools tells you that there's a greater problem at large that's all i was going to say wow okay more proof positive that there needs to be some changes made um so you know you work on the inside you just mentioned that you have a colleague who's trying to do some things from the outside i personally don't believe that the school board can help really change the school system after uh taking a deep dive and looking at it but what are some things that people can do on the inside that are not instructors that are not in the classroom well you know when we're talking about people on the inside my belief is that and and i i heard it phrased this way from a mentor of mine but everybody that is in that learning environment from the principal to the assistant principal to the office manager to the custodians and everyone in between is an educator because you have interactions with and you are around and you support that learning environment you are an educator and when that community when that level when that type of culture is established from the top because that's where it has to come from when that environment is established from the top and it permeates down that is when you have a culture that is when you have an environment of relationship of caring of instruction and a love so when everyone understands that they have an important role as an educator even if you aren't instructionally in an instructional role you are still an educator and it's important and everyone has to understand that oh and that's deep that's intriguing because i do remember in elementary school how the lunch ladies would sow into us you know how the janitor would say some motivating things and there was one or two janitors in elementary school maybe even in middle school who would ask us questions that were part of the curriculum we were learning like a young man what class are you taking i'm taking a pre-algebra oh what's uh what's a vertex something like that i'm like huh oh and so that was really a part of my experience my educational experience everybody but i don't think that's the case anymore it it it is in some places that you go i i've seen it it's not common unfortunately um but it does exist interesting one of the things that i like about educators and uh you know as getting a chance to know you over this year and a half i've learned that you're really passionate about making change you know you want things to improve yeah your whole teach hustle inspire movement is to get people to improve and i say movement because you have merch you know you know you had a hoodies i personally like the purple one of course actually i can rock the bird or the gold i can rock either one of them uh but you have merch you have books so i'm going to call this a movement but one of the things i really like about your movement is you're really kind of focused on making change and i'm interested in finding out how we make intentional generational change so i guess my first question towards that end is you know what have you intentionally done differently from your previous generation to make a better life um when you say a better life a better life for me and my family or for students which which direction are you going there it's really open it's open-ended it could be your family it could be your school it could be your employees it could be atlanta i know you're an atl salute to atm um yeah i'll say say like this with with going with thinking about what i am with what i am building with teach hustle inspire i think of that in terms of it being something that is intentionally done differently you don't a lot of times see quote unquote educators with these brands if you will you have some that are very influential in what they do um and and they have some really really strong ideas and excellent books and things of that nature but what i intentionally tried to do with teach hustle inspire is to create a brand that a lot of people can get behind because they identify with it if if i am an education influencer and i'm an author and i have good work and good research out here i feel that some while it can be impactful it's limited in participation i'm i'm creating something that is participatory something that you if you're an educator then even if not if you're if you've ever taught if you've ever parented if you've ever mentored if you've ever led in some way shape or form you are an educator because you are helping someone that is trying to get where you are to do better that's why we are here on this earth it's all about the next generation and so what i'm trying to do is just to build something that other people can get behind and that inspire me spread love and light that's intentional i didn't just choose that for any particular reason so i am intentionally doing something different by creating a movement in educator in education other educators can get behind and galvanize beautiful beautiful and related you know what is one change that you're super uber passionate about working towards that needs to occur in the world that may not necessarily be education based or it could be you know something that you're just super passionate about i've always understood the power of connection and relationships and that is one thing that is infused in pretty much everything that i do in my personal and professional life and many of the speaking engagements that i am um and asked to do whether it's a workshop keynote speech or a seminar anything in between i always find some way to fuse relationships and connection into the conversation because it is that relevant and applicable whether you are an educator whether you are a leader whether you are in a corporate world whether you are not we all are relational beings by nature and relationships are important relationships are important every facet aspect of life inside and outside of the classroom and that's why i'm so passionate about it wow i really love where you went with that i really love where you went with that how did you start out man how did you start i mean i kind of know some of the backstory but you know for those who are uninitiated you know i haven't had a chance to meet you you know what's your backstory how did you get involved in education yeah you mentioned that you were a dj you know similar to all the djs um but you were educated at the same time so where did you start your educational career i started my education career um this kind of goes back to high school and essentially when i was in high school i was also a musician everything pretty much that i did had to do with music and so at that time as an 11th grader i just knew that i was gonna play drums and go on tour with missy elliott or usher or somebody like that you couldn't tell me any different um and so i got some advice from one of my high school teachers and he said you know you're a really good musician but give yourself something to fall back on so he said why don't you study education that way you have something that can give you a little bit of wiggle room just in case this thing doesn't work out with you playing drums professionally best advice i got uh because when i got to hampton and realized that every there were some people there that to this like for example one of my boys this day he plays for charlie wilson i mean he's a phenomenal phenomenal drummer um and so that that's the level that these people were on i was not there and so that is i got my entrance into education and i started taking my education classes uh and really just was intrigued with the psychology behind all of it and just the idea of i'm a very social person so just being able to engage with other people and and and being able to be in that classroom and being able to teach and engage with students i had a really good student teaching experience and so that was enough for me to say you know what i'm i'm where i'm supposed to be beautiful beautiful beautiful how will you uh as a new teacher you know it looks to me like you have a lot of wisdom and a lot of experience how did you start off um i thought it was a rough start for me pretty much um because when i got started in in education um i'll say it like this i i started off with because of the school that i taught in and the neighborhood that it was in and the perception that i had about the students that were there and what i was led to believe i came in there as a very lay in the hammer very strict no smiling very stern and ended up unbeknownst to me creating an environment of fear i talked like that literally for two years and just creating an environment where there was no connection there were no opportunities for students to really engage with me or the work i didn't present myself as someone who was connectable i didn't present myself as you know in hindsight is 20 20. at that time i thought i was doing the right thing because i didn't have a lot of discipline problems i didn't have a lot of students that i was writing up but i also didn't have a lot of students who were really learning at their highest potential because they were scared in my classroom literally i got like one of the parents told me that she said my daughter is scared in their classroom and so that is when i began to make some changes um immediately and began my evolution as a more competent a more basically someone who started to enjoy teaching and learning more because i was growing as a person which fueled my professional growth as well i say that i'll say that the get on code showed is all about empowerment and so we really kind of focus on empowerment as our key and it's empowerment focused through health wealth and knowledge itself and you know you've talked a lot of you've talked a lot about healthy relationships healthy engagement with students and with the community healthy engagement with academics always education empowered you well that is the hustle part of teach hustle inspire and they can't stop learning and the won't stop learning i even though i mean i have a phd and i've done tons of research i'm still learning i still buy books i still enjoy reading i still enjoy growing because that is what a lot of this is about is how can we continue to grow and how can we continue to improve ourselves that's you know getting that that dopamine hit of not just accomplishing something but the process of accomplishing something it it makes me feel like i'm contributing something and more importantly i know that there are others that are benefiting from that so i enjoy the learning process i really do and i try to convey that to others i say uh any last words i know that you uh have some other meetings to go to some other customers to serve um any last words for those who are you know learning and earning from this content and your your thought process it's just that to to remember you know why we are here we're here to build and to connect with one another and in this in this race that we are all running it's hard work that we do regardless of your role in regardless of your position so while you are serving others do not forget to serve yourself especially in the education field we are givers by nature and to a fault take time to pour into yourself so that you can pour into others and i think that's a great way to end take time to pour into yourself so you can pour into others we've been learning and earning with uh the good dr sean woodley author of the great book uh i love the title i just love the title mc means move the class i'm looking forward to rock him when he does his verses who do you think he should do his verses with i i i don't know honestly um it would have been i think that though the one that came on the other day the krs won the big daddy came he could have fit nicely in there somewhere with that but i i'm regardless i'm signing up for it i'll be there right right right right i enjoyed uh big daddy kane versus uh krs one i'm a big krs-one fan uh and of course i love anything brooklyn krs one was born in brooklyn big daddy kane represents brooklyn i was born in brooklyn brooklyn is a blood type uh so i i just loved him i had a great time and uh mc means move the class pick up the book if you're an educator pick up the book if you're a parent i would say that parents would even benefit from i mean from what i've read you know i haven't gone through the entire book yet but from the parts that i've read so far i think parents will walk away with something that can help them improve their educational experience of their children i would agree i would definitely maybe that's your next book we'll see we'll see i'm working on something right now i'm working on something i say that all right co-keepers you've been checking out get on code we've had the good dr sean woodley with us remember to pick up some of his merch he has purple and gold stuff we both like that he we both like the gold anyway he's the author of the book mc move mc means move the class and uh yo his client list is bananas look at that hey man you got the bag 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