[Music] uh for people who have done a little bit of homework and know who you are why should they believe you about what you think and feel about Shawn Diddy Colmes and any allegations against him given your history of animosity with him well first of all I'm not calling you and nobody else to get get nobody to believe anything regarding like I said I always say me personally I don't jump up and down and cheer no black man going to prison or any other man any other human being going to prison because people think prison is always the answer I'm not saying a lot of people don't deserve to do their time and and and see what's going on but at the same time that's not no cheerful thing because when you look at it that that man have kids and whatever affects him definitely affects his kids I know there's a lot of victims involved in it and whatever affects them their kids so it's not a good thing to be talking about any kind of any [ __ ] about the next person but it's always it's not a gr area with me and at the same time puppy didn't react or people where he got or doing those things or those allegations s he was taught from people before him and he did it to the younger people after him and we can talk all day and say what's true and what's not true only true part about it is videos conversations and people can see what they done but before being happy and proud and say what do people think that's irrelevant so just like I heard earlier today that earlier the day when Ray J was talking to TMZ I got love for Harvey I see Charles always got something negative to say when it comes to West Coast people and Charles tried to make a reference to say that what do I how do I feel when I'm in prison I'm in prison I guarantee you I'm free more than Charles if I feel like sleeping at 5:00 or I want to sleep 12 hours day I can sure but besides all that the fact is it's not no competition who gonna talk to L talk the best it's not something positive that can help anybody I don't get on no platforms that should be something positive and ain't positive I understand what you're saying I want you to try to make some positive points here I get what you're saying about TMZ but that's not really my interest as you might imagine my interest is in what you can help people understand about these allegations that Diddy is facing and what you believe he's facing on the inside now what's most interesting to me is that you seem to see Diddy as kind of an Epstein kind of figure uh that Jeffrey Epstein that a lot of people know what Diddy was about and they were about the same thing and that's why they're quiet that's why JLo and Ben Affleck got divorced because of videos that he has of her that now they know about where is this coming from with you what do you believe about the people around Diddy and what everybody knows well first of all you got to start with at the top you starting with the toply Davis Russell Simmons Andre Jimmy IV even if you take Jimmy IV he had an allegation from him same thing it went away he take Jimmy IR they told me a Universe on endoscope and said you know what we can't deal with artists that gets in trouble your artist gets in trouble they talk crazy they think about what they see now I was told that I can't do business there because of that now Doug moris gave puffy a deal for millions of dollars it flop so when you look at all these things and everybody want to say puffy puffy puffy don't get me wrong yeah puffy Ste in this [ __ ] and even if he WIP the [ __ ] off his shoe it still stinks but he's not the only one they got all the tapes when you talk about the tapes but this been going on for a long time hold on sh help us understand because a lot of this stuff is a little inside baseball for people right uh because they don't live the life they don't know the world they don't know the telephone number will be monitored and recorded uh that's just a recording from the prison that's just saying that they record it which obviously they do Suge help people understand what tapes are you talking about who has them and what kinds of things do you think they show well number one luckily I want I want they first choice their second choice I want choice to be at those freaky parties but you know what they show they should have a thing in Industry right the sad thing about it I don't like mentioning Usher I Don't Like mentioning Justin Bieber I don't like mentioning all these people that everybody know what time it is so at the same time in uh they have a joke they never played this joke me and they to walk in the inter scope office they go back there and they be like hey we passed the test I said we haven't did the test what do say don't say that in front of Mr n cuz he going to take it the Sens and hurt somebody I said well whatever it is I probably will take it offens somebody will get their ass whooped you know that was me in those days they had these do they call the boil egg test they to take a boil egg a raw boil egg had those guys pull their pants down and been over they sticking up their ass the eggs break and say they not ready yet they ain't put enough work in this is Hollywood so everybody want to go act like they don't know what's going on hold on second you just look you gotta do I have I have never heard of anything like that so if I haven't heard about it just assume a lot of people haven't heard that before but you think it's on video for a second go ahead sure listen also have you ever been to any puffy parties no you show had a long time to think about it but if you ever in those butt naked parties even some of the preachers been in those parties and they was on their knees praying for God see they was praying for somebody to have come real quick or something but I wasn't there but this proof of it but at the same time everybody want to look around act like something going on is wasn't right it's The Facts of Life in the industry not for the people who don't get in so everybody you got to look at it like this you see a beautiful woman or you see a handsome man and it was like that all their life Elementary School to Junior High School to high school they for to go to college college right they always knew they had something special about their if you take some of the Hollywood executiv or some artist they might have been the ugly ducky for a long time before they had to P fix and lipsticks and nose sticks all the work done underneath they still the young with no confidence because they' been that way all their [ __ ] life so all of a sudden if you look at puffy old pictures don't look nothing like his new pictures you know see they didn't did but sh just because he has plastic surgery all I'm saying is I'm not saying that you're wrong about rich people doing stuff to their face or whatever it is but that's different than the allegations that are coming down on him people I'm talking about the difference I'm talking about okay look look at it like this I look at real plain and a no ain't no wish blow fact is there but right now I don't care if it's Pi I don't care if it's Rick Ross I don't care if it's Jay I don't care if it's Snoop I don't care if it's game I don't care if it's Dre nobody stepping up on the fact that you know what's going on nobody's defending him guys in a scope you're right nobody is defending him but that's why I was interested in hearing your perspective hey I like to say this too real quick you got a woman that works for you is really incredible you don't find too many people I thought you were about to implicate her in the investigation I'm just glad you're not implicating Dusty in the investigation sh because I can't take that no she's not investigation I want to do for her is I want to look I gotta do this for but I want to turn on to the to this this this this clothing line called um girls Mondays to uh Sunday girl Monday to Sunday and I'm definitely gonna look out for because I buy a lot of [ __ ] for a lot of people from that place but look what I was basically trying to say is this I respect your show respect what you're doing but most important thing is is the is um there got to be a solution because this has been going on in the industry for a whole bunch of years for decades and at the same time you know nobody want this to be true it shouldn't have to be true but if we don't fix it and do something about it history will constantly repeat itself now sh you said something early on that I want to get clarification for the audience sh you said early on you can't just look at Diddy in isolation you said this was done to him he learned from others and it was done to him and then he did to others to me that sounds like what I hear when people are talking about abusive situations you know hurt people hurt people that someone was sexually abused they wind up being a perpetrator is that what you're suggesting about Shan Colmes that he was sexually abused and he now sexually abuses yeah I think that's absolutely right I think he repeat what was done to him like I said if you look at Russell Simmons you know the truth Andre ra you know the truth PR Davis you know the truth jimy I you know the truth so there not certain things that all of a sudden you got this the industry is a Quicks business it's been like that for a long time and the casting couch is real but it's for women and men but far from all that I think the most important thing is to I feel like they that's puffy tell is truth I'm quite sure he gonna expose a lot of people I'm sure he GNA move forward with it but I don't think it should be a situation like The Ting thing where they found him hanging from the CE in the dead before the truth come out do you believe that I think truth need to be do you believe that Diddy is in danger in prison and do you have advice for him based on what you just said well the first advice I have I don't never want to say he's danger and neither should he say that because once he get to the point where they feel he going to be suicidal to himself harmful to himself but they put him on suicide watch you had a right to nothing no socks no drawers no T-shirt no blanket no sheets you ass so naked in the sell as a crazy man so he definitely don't want to do that and the other advice I would tell him you know maybe he should give on the Jewish diet because the coal Mills is way better than the the food somebody else is making for at least they going to come hot they going to come fi and you got to be the one open them that's very important what about people trying to hurt to jail I mean one of the things is this I don't care who you are prison and jail is a negtive environment somebody can do something to them and get a name for their self they not actually do it or they can do whatever they feel they they got to do to prove theyel but we also got to learn we got to learn from our mistakes everything don't have to be a mistake you got to better yourself but we all know what we sign up for in life so if I signed up to be a football player I knew I'm GNA get hit and I'm G hurt some [ __ ] too I sign up to be in the music business and the entertainment business if you f for right and being a black man there certain things you got to look at for the challenges if they can't take the money from you they take you from the money by putting you in prison that's a fact in puffy situation he should go and get his time out the way not no life sentence if he get less of time he can jump on it because he had a great run I'm in prison right now I had a great run so I don't go mad I don't wake up mad I've been here here for I've been locked up for 10 years and I ain't had a bad day yet and it's a lot of things we can do to help each other as never too late for help God bless us to to have a voice let's use our voice I had told puppy while back I told TD Jackson while I'm back CH come on collect calls we can politic because one thing for certain one thing for sure he just not going to walk away with one scratch on it happen like that do you think that Diddy do so do you think Diddy knows enough that it's a very delicate balance that maybe investigators will want to know these other names and greatly reduce his exposure to criminality to time versus what people would do to keep him quiet number one I've been known him a long time and we was friends we not enemies but we were friends he's not a Telly so he's smart enough to work his magic on top of that this man right here he been involved with the FBI Most his career it's not like he don't have no moves but I don't I don't think nobody should just County out I don't think he gonna lay down and just cling the corner and die he probably going through a lot of [ __ ] right now because he probably going through a lot of withdrawals for the drugs but the industry got him on drugs and you see they do these things to take control and not doing there's nothing wrong with being gay if you choose to be gay that's your preference but they doing this to people for control it's a power situation Suge and they've been having the power of the death I I appreciate your perspective uh on this [Laughter]