Insights from Pat Andler on Fire Investigation

Sep 28, 2024

Lecture on Fire Investigation by Pat Andler

Introduction

  • Speaker: Pat Andler, a fire investigator with over 35 years of experience.
  • Achievements: Conducted over 4,000 fire investigations.
  • Certifications: Certified fire investigator and instructor.
  • Education: Undergraduate degree in Justice Studies from Arizona State University.
  • Publications: Authored a textbook on arson investigation.
  • Company: Founder of Adler Associates.

Career Background

  • Started as an investigator for Equifax Services in the 1980s.
  • Gained an opportunity to attend multiple fire academies across the U.S.
  • Noticed gaps in fire departments' training in handling arson and fraudulent fire claims.

Fire Investigation Standards

  • NFPA 921: Considered the gold standard for fire investigation, updated every 3-4 years.
    • Peer-reviewed by about 5,000 members.
    • Emphasizes scientific methodology in fire investigations.
  • NFPA 1033: Details qualifications for fire investigators.

Key Points in Fire Investigation

  • Primary Process: Determine the origin before identifying the cause of the fire.
  • Responsibility: Importance of considering responsibilities (e.g., absence of smoke detectors).

Case Study: Don Phillips

  • Incident: Fire investigation involving a house owned by Don Phillips.
  • Initial Observations: Fire department initially cited two points of origin.
  • Discovery: Fire likely started from a cigar in a wicker chair on the patio.
  • Verification: Reconstructed the fire scene and conducted tests to replicate conditions.
  • Outcome: Mr. Phillips was found not guilty; noted shortcomings in initial investigations.

Methodologies and Tools

  • Use of scientific methods and peer-reviewed standards.
  • Importance of photographs and pre-fire evidence in reconstructing fire scenes.

Challenges in Fire Investigation

  • False Assumptions: Importance of verifying evidence (e.g., accelerant detection dogs and false alerts).
  • Legal Implications: Impact of inaccurate investigations on personal and professional lives.

Q&A Highlights

  • Fire Extinguishers: Discussion on the legal obligation to use them during a fire.
  • Accelerant Detection Dogs: Their role and limitations in investigations.
  • Prosecutorial Responsibility: Need for thorough reviews before advancing court cases.

Conclusion

  • Importance of thorough and accurate fire investigation.
  • Potential consequences of insufficient investigation and prosecution.