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Debating Ultra Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta's Balance

all right so as of recently I'm starting to notice within the community that there's been a lot of buzz going around concerning our good friend Ultra Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and it's about how we've been looking at him all wrong apparently all this time U4 was never that bad no no no he's actually balanced because he wasn't as toxic as Ultras like Grathon and UMV and even more so nowadays because he's way easier to deal with than he was back in his prime huh yeah I'm just as confused as you i'm not sure where this sudden surge just came from of just people randomly saying U4 is balanced all of a sudden like it is everywhere i've seen it in my comments i've seen it in my server and someone even directly tagged me on Twitter and was like "Slackax please argue with me u4 is balance and I'm mad that you clown on me in that one hot takeake video." Well Gio I'm sorry that I clown on you i really am but your hottake is ass buddy i'm like what did he say [ __ ] me for and you didn't even provide an actual reason all you said was UG4 wasn't as oppressive as most of the modern units of today and how are you going to sit here and say Ultra Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta wasn't oppressive like what kind of [ __ ] shitty let me calm down well Gio I don't ever usually respond to people on Twitter because I'm never on there but since I keep getting hundreds of other people saying this exact same thing I got to step in all right so here's how this video is going to go the first thing we're going to do is we're going to take a look at everything Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta is able to do and the impact he had on the entire game because it's clear that some of you need a little reminder just how stupid this character really is and after we're done freshening up on all that then I'm going to take a look at your guys' points as to why you think U4 is balanced and I'm going to be debunking every single one and this will honestly be pretty easy for me because most of the points you guys made are literally just copy and paste you said the exact same thing all right then without further ado let's get started july 9th 2024 the day Ultra Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta was born and he was by far one of the most hyped characters we've ever received yes yep it's time i love that art i love that art it's It's time let's get it oh he has the arts action mechanic that's what Vio had last year yeah he looks sick get ready to see this guy pretty often guys he's going to be ruining all your days pretty soon but not only was this character super hype he was also one of the most broken and metading units we have ever gotten every single green unit went completely extinct and was just unrunnable fusions instantly became the best team in the game gogeta dropped and just changed everything bro but what exactly made him so powerful well there are multiple reasons so let's take a look at his kit all right first things first the bread and butter of this Gogeta's entire character his unique gauge as you all know once his unique gauge gets filled Gogeta is able to counter any attack in the game except for rising rushes strikes blast blue cards ultimate greens AoE greens long range blues anything and everything and he doesn't even have to be in the battlefield to counter either if you have his gauge up while he's on standby all you have to do is switch into him and he'll counter and another really crazy thing about this gauge is that it also fills up so quickly it only takes three hits for him to get his gauge and it can also be filled up instantly once he gets to half HP which by the way he gets a [ __ ] ton of HP from that so you'll pretty much always have his gauge ready to go and you can even save it for later situations you don't have to pop it right away if you don't want to another thing that happens when you activate his gauge is that he drops three of your cards seals your rush seals your main and even activates no switching for the entire team even though it's a short period of time that is still absolutely ridiculous there's a lot of things I want to add onto the gauge like how it could be absolutely broken in certain situations but we're going to save it for later for now let's talk about all the crazy [ __ ] he's doing on his cards because they are insane starting off with this blue card just on this blue card alone he's doing like a million things first off it can restore your vanish engage depending on how many cards you drop when you activate it so if you have one card that drops when you activate the blue it will only restore your vanish a little bit if you have two cards drop then it will restore your vanish halfway and if you have three cards that drop then it will completely restore your vanish 100% and there isn't a limit to this either you can always get your vanish back from a blue card this blue card could also be really helpful if you just have a bad hand like for example if you have all blast just use the blue card and bam all your cards are gone and now you have a fresh new hand to work with and to add on to this even more the more cards you drop the stronger the blue card hits so it's the same thing that applies with the vanishing gauge if you destroy three cards he's going to do hella damage his blue card can also seal your opponent's blues and greens on activation for five counts five counts is a pretty decent amount of time so there's a pretty big window for you to take advantage of that moment especially against characters like Ulton who just have infinite blue cards it puts him at bay for a little bit and gives you a chance to gain priority over him the last thing his blue card can do is nullify blast arts so that means he won't take any damage through blast armor and he's just completely immune to armor break this is just an insane blue card man moving on to his green card it's an AoE green because of course it is every ultra's got to have a AoE green right the main reason why this green card is so broken is because on activation it inflicts enemies with no switching for three timer counts no switching is one of the most powerful mechanics in the entire game because there's zero forms of counterplay against it there are so many situations to where you can use this to your advantage you can pop the green card then pop Eugene4's main and use the and that's basically a one-shot kill right there or you could just use the AoE green and then follow it up with the rising rush aoe greens are already broken in general but adding no switching on top of that that is just way too far man all right now it's time to talk about his this ultimate is so [ __ ] broken bro it's probably the hardest hitting ultimate we have ever gone in the game guaranteed one shot even to this day but it's not even just the damage there is so much other stuff that happens first off just like his blue card he nullifies blast cards when charging forward so again he won't take any damage from blast armor and he's just completely immune to armor break when you actually get hit by the hole it reduces your key to 100% destroys your entire hand reduces your dragon balls by three and if you're a revival character the amount of health you'll get will be reduced by 70% when you revive i don't even know why he has this there weren't even any good revival characters when he came out they literally just gave him this just because i want to remind you guys we are just talking about all the [ __ ] he does on his cards we haven't even gone to his unique abilities yet but let's go ahead and get into that these unique abilities are a whole YAP session so I'll condense it down and summarize it for you guys starting off with unique ability one when you first start the match Yuji4 is off rip getting 240% inflicted damage he gets double card draw speed on entry he has constant healing up to 15 timer counts and also gets cover on entry for 10 timer counts every single time he also gets reduced damage received by 70% plus 40% to key recovery and minus 5 to all arch cost for this next part we briefly talked about it already but whenever Yuj4 gets to half health he'll get a full unique gauge gain 30% of his health back and goes type neutral and I also did forget to mention this earlier but his type neutrality on main can be cancelled but that wasn't even a concern because the only yellow unit that canceled buffs at the time was Ultra Kid Buu but he's been aged out so there was no one that could stop this now let's get to the craziest part of his unique ability his last man standing buffs when both characters on your team are defeated Gogeta gets one free Dragon Ball plus 70% to overall inflicted damage which cannot be cancelled plus 50% to health restoration which also cannot be cancelled plus 30% to key recovery and card draw speed plus 50% to critical damage he gets full charge rate on his unique age and permanent type neutrality which again none of these things can be cancelled wow man uh damn i don't know bro that still seems pretty balanced to me moving on to unique ability 2 starting off strong already Gogeta has two types of cover changes against strike and blast cards because why not who cares anymore at this point he's already broken enough so might as well just give him everything and technically speaking Gogeta actually has three cover changes because remember if Gogeta has a full gauge on standby you can just switch into him and counter everything oh yeah and when he cover changes he draws a blue card every single time wow this unit is just so balanced if you couldn't tell already the second half of his unique ability just talks about his gauge but we already covered that earlier in the video so all of this all the inflicted damage the gauge the AoE green the last man standing buffs all this BS combined with the boost system oh yeah I bet you guys forgot about the boost system didn't you so all of this [ __ ] that Gogeta was doing by himself combined with the extra stats from the boost system just honest game if you didn't pull him when I tell you this unit literally had the meta in the palm of his hand honestly speaking this unit really gave me Blue Beast Gohan vibes with the way he just dropped in and just took control over everything he literally just spawned in and said "I'm in charge now." And every other unit was forced to obey like good boys because they couldn't do anything so time goes by and Yuji is just absolutely dominating there is a very clear gap between him and the rest of the game it was so bad that even the devs knew they made a mistake with unleashing this monster into the wild so they decided to take actions into their own hands operation Exterminate U4 commenced triu Ultra Majin Vegeta Transforming Goku Black Transforming Vegito Blue and Ultra Beast Gohan all of this all these characters which are some of the most broken characters we've received in recent time except for this fraud right here this guy sucks ass but all of these characters just to take down Ultra Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and that isn't even all of them there's even one more character that came out even before UG4 was released fusing Gogeta Blue the devs actually released a pre-counter because they knew the absolute storm Gogeta was going to bring to the game honestly give a round of applause for Ultra Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta because a feat of this degree will never be topped six whole characters to take you down is insane okay now that we're done catching up on Gogeta's kit and his overall impact on the game let's get into your guys' points as to why you think this character is quote unquote balanced so I made a community post asking if you guys think UG4 is balanced or not and give me a reason why thankfully most people said this character wasn't balanced but there were still a good chunk of people who think he is so I went and looked at every single comment and boiled down every single one of your opinions to these three main points because like I said earlier most of you guys just said the exact same thing reasoning number one Yuji4 is balanced because his gauge is the most balanced counter gauge we have ever [Laughter] gotten okay I already know the exact reason why people are saying this and it's only because you can't follow up with an attack after you get countered by the gauge but keep in mind that people are calling a gauge that can counter every single attack and stop any form of counterplay like perfect vanish and can completely reset the playing field to your opponent's advantage balanced uh yeah no just because you can't follow up with an attack with this gauge doesn't make it any less powerful there are so many situations to where if you have this gauge at your disposal you can completely flip the match around to your favor for example let's say you're getting a really good combo win on your opponent you're building up your character you're getting Dragon Balls to farm your rising rush but then oh no Gogeta switches in because he already has his gauge activated on standby now the playing field has been reset and you lost priority and you're afflicted with no switching and you have no rush and your cards are dropped yeah really balance bro and it gets even worse during late game situations let's say you're trying to clutch up against U4 and you perfect vanish him and you start to get the combo rolling but then again uh-oh he still has his gauge left to be activated you pop it and now you lost priority and guess what you have no vanish and no rush and no cards what are you supposed to do in that situation nothing the answer is nothing gogeta is just going to go full screen and kill you like the [ __ ] is not balanced bro well you're just cherrypicking certain situations to make the gauge seem more broken than it is i'm not I'm trying to prove that there will always be situations where Gogeta will gain priority or just straight up win because of his gauge yes I'm well aware there will be many situations where you'll be just fine when you pop his gauge but then again there are many other situations where Gogeta can completely determine the outcome of a fight just because he has his gauge in his back pocket so no this gauge is not balanced reasoning number two since U4 has aged out and he doesn't do that much damage anymore and can't tank well he automatically becomes balanced what kind of stupid ass logic is that bro so let me get this right because I must be missing something here you're saying just because U4 is out of his prime and is aged out due to power creep and because of the 20 million units Legends released to counter him because of this he automatically becomes balanced now yes all right then since we're going with that logic then it's fair for me to say that Rahon is balanced now right wo what's with that face for go ahead and fix that [ __ ] because this is your logic i guess Rahan is balanced now because he's aged out and he doesn't do as much damage as he did before and he obviously doesn't tank as well as he did before either and you know what let's take it a step further what about Blue Beast Gohan a top five unit we've ever received in this game's history but hey he doesn't do that much damage anymore nor does he perform at the level he once did so he's balanced now right guys nah I'm not done yet let's go ahead and go even further what about Ultra Majin Vegeta when he eventually ages out are you guys going to start calling him balance too uh you know what but maybe UM wasn't as bad as we thought now that we have units with a million more time damage inflicted and have way more things in their kit UMV is actually pretty balanced now and [ __ ] cannot fight for Do you see how stupid of a reasoning that is just because a character ages out doesn't make them any less toxic than they were before power creep happens to every single character in this game it's going to happen to you and V it's going to happen to Foru but that still doesn't make them any less oppressive and toxic than they are i feel like this would be common sense but with this community I guess not reasoning number three he's balanced just because I like Gogeta no this isn't a joke there are legitimate people who are calling this character balanced just because they like him as a matter of fact I want to show you guys some of the comments firsthand because this [ __ ] is ridiculous i love this unit he killed off Rahon for a while plus it's Gogeta that's great man i'm really happy for you that you love U4 i love U4 as well he's one of my favorite characters but what does this have to do with anything idk he's balanced but I may be biased well at least you admit it bro i'm My god he's the GOAT that's why again no reason provided i just like Gogeta so I'm going to call him balanced u4 was a healthy release kid just because he's healthy that doesn't mean he's balanced healthy equals balance you're just mad you got cooked by him in PvP and Orshoted hop off what this actually just has to be a 7-year-old kid on his iPad i'm I'm just going to ignore this this is a little kid most balanced unit in Bu Saga meta gee guys i wonder if he likes Gogeta i don't know though i can't tell he wasn't that bad to face against there are counters to him and while oppressive never unbeatable bro look at your name and your profile picture bro i can't make this [ __ ] up even if I wanted to and he is balanced no matter how you try to make it sound bad again no reasoning in sight i just like Gogeta so I'm going to call him balance looks balanced to me uh can you explain why i would love to know cringe U4 hater never said I hated U4 i just do not think he's balanced and I'm trying to get other people to see that but oh god my king great man i'm happy you like the character what does that have to do with him being balanced yes he is cuz he's a fusion i just I'm done bro he's healthy but not balanced not balanced equals toxic balanced equals healthy he's healthy and not toxic but he wasn't balanced there's a difference and any ultra shouldn't be balanced but there shouldn't be toxic or unhealthy either that's UG4 he's healthy for the game not toxic but [Music] unbalanced yeah I'm done this is honestly a new low for the community how are you going to let your bias for a character determine your whole opinion even I don't do this you guys know I love Ultra UI Goku and LFU Goku they're my favorite characters in the entire game but just because I like them I'm not going to sit by and say these characters were balanced no these characters were toxic as hell this debate is honestly so pointless i don't even know why this is a thing but I hope this video was able to convince you guys this character is anything but balance the devs literally six whole characters targeted to taking this man down that should be enough evidence as it is but whatever anyways hope you guys enjoyed hope you have a blessed day and I'll see you in the next one peace out [Music] you want you [Music]