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he ran against a woman in 16 and he beat a woman in 16 and uh Republicans unlike our Democrat friends do know the difference between men and women we had a 40-point lead now we're going to be talking about Trump insulting a woman I've met the man as well I've talked to him he was fantastic he was sharp how sh but that the badass that is Donald Trump is the reason that Donald Trump is here right now and I agree with you he will never lose that part of him and he will certainly never cuddle a cat I know you guys are doing the rnc's work uh for them I know you're trying to struggling right now sa she is not the borders are you're full of today do you wish with hindsight you hadn't used that language I could have said much worse Pierce a month ago Joe Biden walked stiffly and slowly onto the CNN stage in Atlanta for a debate he thought would save his presidency last night with his closest Family huddled behind the camera he gave what will probably be his final over office address I rever this office but I love my country more it's been the honor of my life to serve as your president but in the defense of democracy which is a stake I think is more important than any title I draw strength and I find joy in working for the American people but this sacred task of perfecting our Union is not about me it's about you your families your futures it's about We the People well the heart may have been there but there wasn't a rousing or inspiring speech Biden can't really do those anymore and that's of course the big problem the president Visibly waned Even during a modest 15 minute addressed to the American people and the many people expecting answers on exactly why he quit the race or why he's fit to remain president for another six months were left with only more questions there were a few trademark fluffs there were six different references to democracy and why it's so important to save it there was an almost laughably optimistic list of things he expects to accomplish in the remainder of his term ranging from Supreme Court reform to curing cancer and there was even time for defensive roll call of apparent achievements including this frankly whoer the first major gun safety law in 30 years today violent the violent crime rate is at a 50-year low we're also securing our border border crossings are lower today than when the previous administration left office well that's simply not true does simply not true this president is the sharpest mind in DC with energy levels to put the rest of us to shame as so many of his supporters continued to claim until it was obvious that he wasn't this was a moment where the president could have gone out in a blaze of reflective glory on a 50-year career which had many laudable moments it was a moment in history despite his Frailty and arguably his incompetence I've always thought that Joe Biden is an industrious public servant and a thoroughly decent man who's been through well some unimaginable TR in his life but this speech just left me feeling a little sad the time for Biden to leave with honor passed a long time ago and at The Bitter End only his wife and Harry Sis one of our guest today were urging him to still cling on and Joe Biden did not pass the torch as he put it to Cara Harris he was torched out of office by donors and Grandes who decided he couldn't win everybody else knows that just an hour earlier the man who knocked him to the canvas in that CNN debate was working CR at another packed rally the stark contrast was a reminder of why Joe Biden is no longer in the race you know it could because when they call you a threat to democracy you never know what causes it I'm a threat to they're a threat to democracy they're a threat to they're a threat to our country period well during the president's address Trump posted this photograph of himself looming next to a screen on his plane like a hunter with a trophy kill but how he must wish that Biden was still his opponent many people speculated that Trump was a changed man after surviving an assassination attempt humbled emotional even unifying nice even there's nothing like fresh meat to reawaken the old Trump senses in a 60-minute DI tribe he said that carala Harris would be the worst lunatic ever in the white house with policies that make Bernie Sanders look moderate and in what became a day of three consequential speeches Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was given a hero's welcome for his appearance in Congress may God bless Israel may God bless America and may God bless the great alliance between Israel and America forever Netanyahu may be wildly unpopular back in Israel but us lawmakers welcomed him like Churchill and even as he spoke protesters outside burned the US flag hoisted the Palestinian colors above Union Station and scrolled Hamas is coming on a monument it wasn't a great advertisement for the America that Joe Biden leaves behind in a moment I'll be reunited with Harry Sison who was blindly loyal to Biden right to the end but first joining me from Washington DC is pollster and political strategist Frank Lance Frank great to see you um you're a very important person to talk to right now because there are polls swirling around all over the place often giving quite conflicting information just first of all tell me what impact has Joe Biden's decision not to continue with his presidential race had on the Democrats chances of winning the the election it has completely unscrambled and rrbl the race there are key voter groups right now young women who had been turned off by both candidates that are now absolutely excited younger African-Americans that were giving Donald Trump a look that they may be going back to the Democrats which theyve voted for for for decades it doesn't change any of the states it doesn't change the basic parameters of this election but it does make it closer and make no mistake when you raise $80 million in a single day when you get thousands and thousands of people signing up to volunteer you do you take that seriously you you see the significance of it I would have predicted exactly one week ago today that Donald Trump essentially had the race showed up you can't say that today he's still the favorite but by a very very narrow margin and there is a palpable measurable honeymoon that's happening for the vice president Camala Harris that could change the outcome of of November yeah I mean I I read a very interesting interview with you with the times back in the UK last week in which you identified as the potential Tipping Point for Trump to beat Biden was that Trump's support would all come out and vote for him absolutely to a man and woman but the Biden support maybe one two% of them may just stay at home because they just weren't infused enough to go out and vote for him you know it may well be that that that particular part of the equation Narrows sharply with carela Harris because the one thing she certainly brought to this race is A Renewed Energy and I could certainly see a lot more people feeling enthusiastic enough to go out and vote for her in a way they might have been tempted to stay at home if it was still Joe Biden that's exactly correct and that's why the whole race has changed every Trump voter you knew that he was going to get his polling numbers and maybe even above them but that Joe Biden there was just no energy no excitement she's brought that to the race it may not survive I remind viewers that she had the same kind of energy and excitement in 2019 until she debated Joe Biden and the public thought there's not much here that she doesn't have the greatest record to defend as vice president she was given one responsibility which is immigration and she didn't come through on that and right now the two issues that matter most affordability and immigration Trump has a significant Advantage regardless of whether it's Joe Biden or kamla Harris that said we've never had a African-American woman South Asian woman running clearly they're playing into that Americans like to be part of history and I'm not willing to make a projection right now because it would be inaccurate and frankly unprofessional she does have a shot yeah I I I I certainly think it's going to be a much closer race now um in terms of how Trump should handle the new challenge you know I spoke to him on Saturday night uh before Biden quit this the day before and he was desperate for Biden to stay as long as possible because he really genuinely believed if Biden was still the Democrat nominee come November he would win the election quite easily um but he did say that given the extraordinary series of events in just the last three weeks of this race that four months is a very long time in this race uh which it is I mean certainly the race everyone said to start with was boring these two old guys duking it out again has become one of the most electrifying surprise ridden races in American presidential history if you were aded ing Trump how would you how would you handle the new challenge I would simply tell him to take a very long vacation go to one of your golf courses in Scotland and just get away Donald Trump is Donald Trump's biggest opponent the words that he says does bring people who never voted a republican before to consider him and it's not a typical politician's rhetoric that said you're running against a woman woman who has a professional career the female population has been really energized by her campaign and it's only been 4 days and he is too likely to say something that's too offensive that actually hurts him and backfires and I don't believe that there's anyone around him that says to him dude calm down it's a little bit different you can take Biden apart you can't treat her the same way you treat him now he got away with it with Hillary Clinton because voters thought of her differently I my advice to H would be to tread very carefully and to make sure that all of your communication is based on fighting for the American people not fighting against the vice president and that's that's sometimes very hard for him to do yeah I mean it's interesting there's a clip of him talking about whether he should stay nice in the race after the people saying after the shooting he suddenly became Mr Nice Guy and he said this you know I was supposed to be nice they say something happened to me when I got shot I became nice and when you're dealing with these people they're very dangerous people when you're dealing with them you can't be too nice you really can't be so if you don't mind I'm not going to be nice is that okay I'm you know I mean it's an entirely predictable response and I've been watching his rhetoric in the last couple of days in particular he's been actually pretty well on message in terms of going after carela Harris about a number of things from her record which are pretty juicy bones for him to gore on but he can't stop occasionally saying she's a in a dumb as a rock and she's going to be the biggest lunatic ever seen in the white house and stuff I think it's that kind of language which he just can't stop himself using but which actually ultimately could be self-defeating because she's going to come at him repeatedly with all sorts of AD homm attacks from he's a sexual predator you know he's a Comm man he's a fake he's this we know all this if he could somehow find it in himself to rise above that Fray a little bit and stick purely to policy attacks I think it would be more effective for him you're right but he can't he produced I saw the original 45 minute speech I saw the text at the convention exactly one week ago and it's amazing that it's only one week ago and it was a really strong very powerful I've seen every convention speech since 1988 This truly was one of the best but that's not the speech that he delivered the fact is the other 45 minutes that he ad lived that he threw stuff in hurt his credibility hurt the idea that he was a unifying candidate and that's what he does every single day he delivers some really powerful effective attacks that voters shake their heads and say yes I agree with that but they're always surrounded they're always punctuated with some offense some insult that causes people to recoil if he doesn't figure out how to do this right he could lose and so the question then becomes with when I what I would say the presidents sir do you really want to win this or do you want to lose two different races it's up to him to decide what Donald Trump shows up at these rallies and at whatever debate they have does his decision to choose JD Vance as his running mate now look a a good decision or not so good in light of the fact Joe Biden's no longer in the race for a lot of people it doesn't look as good to me and this is probably the most important part of this interview there's a segment of the population that no one's talking about and I don't know if it's because they don't see it and I called them paycheck to paycheck voters 24% of America so it's significant and it's in every state people who literally have trouble making ends meet at the end of the week or end of the month traditionally they vote Democrat by two to one or even more Donald Trump has made that margin he's up in the low 40s among these people Republicans if they get that vote they never never lose and Trump is a way to speak to them and JD Vance comes from that group it's who he is it's his back ground so the question that becomes who do the Democrats choose for the debate JD Vance will not have a significant impact as vice presidents never do in fact more often than not they hurt the top of the ticket the question is do they choose Josh Shapiro the governor of Pennsylvania or or Mark Kelly the senator from Arizona probably the two best picks how does he perform in that debate that will decide whether or not he's successful but the key component is he understands those people those paycheck to paycheck voters because he is one and it seems to me talking of debates that the Catalyst for all this Mayhem in the last three and a half weeks was of course the CNN debate where Joe Biden became the emperor with no clothes in front of the American people and it was very clear I remember watching that live uh and I saw John King at CNN who I used to work with over there and I've never known him be quite so instantly SC of something he'd just seen involving a Democrat president as he was that night and I knew then it was basically over just a question of time but it does make I think the debate between Donald Trump and carela Harris on September the 10th potentially even more consequential and even more gigantic doesn't it I think you have a perfect analysis I think you really know what's going on and I know the show is being shot from New York so clearly you're pulling in the Z of of America in this in this conversation he can't treat her the same way that he treated Biden he will not be given that benefit and in the end the rules that Biden forced on him turned out to work in his favor because you couldn't hear his comments the the constant undercutting as Biden was speaking I don't know if that debate's going to happen I don't even believe that ABC knows that that debate's going to happen I think they may put it off um I think it'll be the most watched and most entertaining debate of all time I think it could be the most negative debate of all time because the two of them will just go at each other and at each other and what we haven't mentioned is the impact after the election and that's what I really am most concerned about and why I do so many interviews like this in the end do we trust the election results does America come together do we accept the the the the result and do we move on and do we continue to tear each other apart that's what I'm most concerned about because I'm not sure the answers to those questions I know what brexit did to the debate in the UK and I believe it's going to be even rougher over here Trump versus Harris and uh and pray for us Pierce because we're great Dem though you know what the the reason Frank I think it has to happen that debate is which one of them's going to pull out right if Kamala Harris ducked a debate with Trump I think that would play very badly for her and conversely if Trump the strongman bottles a debate with carala Harris I think that's really damaging to him so I don't think there's any any possibility of that debate not happening purely for that reason yeah but Trump's already raised that he doesn't want ABC to do it he wants Fox to do it so his claim will be I don't trust the network they're biased they're hostile to him it that won't hold water but to Trump's voters that'll be acceptable enough and in the end under Biden there was only 4% of Americans that's it who are undecided that undecided number has gone up a little bit because we have a new candidate still only six or s% so we're going to spend $2 billion and hold all these debates in the Democratic Convention basically trying to move 6% of three key States Michigan yeah with Wisconsin and most importantly Pennsylvania that's an awful lot of money that's an awful lot of airtime for for literally 1/4 of 1% of America it's incredible when you put it like that Frank L brilliant to talk to you one of the smartest political strategists in America I really appreciate it thank you appreciate it too well joining me now is the former professional wrestler and Fox News contributor Tyrus and Tik Tok influencer Harry sis welcome welcome uh to both of you Harry I want to start by playing a little clip of you last time you appeared on my show who do you think the two nominees will be in the end and who will win yeah it's gonna be uh Joe Biden versus Donald Trump and then Joe Biden's gonna win and Pierce I'd love to chat with you after the election you made a few dollars Harry so why don't we have a little wager $10,000 to a charity of of your choice I say Biden can't possibly win you think he can uh I mean I I personally don't bet on politics I'm happy to have another bet to do something with Charity we can do something absolutely no problem but you wouldn't put your money where your mouth is on on Biden then I don't I don't bet on politics well I saved you $10,000 there Harry U with your refusal to accept the BET obviously uh welcome to back to uncensored I mean you were completely wrong not only did Biden not stay in the race but he certainly won't be president again so did you accept you were completely wrong yeah I think I was going based off of publicly available information all the information available was that Biden was staying in he consistently told reporters he was staying in he said I'm the guy and then he huddled with advisers in Delaware saw the data said it wasn't looking good and made The Honorable decision to bow out but with respect why would a young Dynamic guy like you how old are you 21 you're 21 so you're 60 years younger than Joe Biden right right it was blatantly obvious to everybody that Biden was done especially after the debate why would you continue to pretend that he wasn't uh cuz I look at the record I'm I'm always of the that achievements and policy matters more than like this uh talk we have in the media of oh Biden's this oh Biden's that I've met the man as well I've talked to him he was fantastic he was sharp I had questions I that was in may he was sharp yeah how sharp very sharp he he around that time he was falling off stages he was face planting he was tumbling off face planting I mean tuming steps of Air Force falling off bicycles he was saying all sorts of gobbledygook and statements which the White House had to rewind so how sharp was he I think I mean he was great I gave him questions he didn't have beforehand he answered them in depth and we had a conversation after the the uh cameras were turned off I had no problems then I had no problems now I still think Joe Biden is fit to serve if you were the candidate I'd still think he's fit to serve really yeah okay tus Joe Biden is still fit to serve I mean the guy I watched last night doing this National address I'm sorry I felt it was really sad it was it was elder abuse I I think at at this point we're arguing about the wrong thing whether whether he's he's fit to serve or not fit to serve uh history was made in the sense that the donors basically said no more money and they don't do that because they they think oh the polling shows you're down this month so the ugliness of this is that uh Joe Biden's Legacy is going to be affected because of what happened the policies and stuff that were running historically did never fit Joe which people rais their eyebrows to and then you're seeing all this cover up of how sharp he was and that's that's a interesting word because it's used a lot and I always find when different people all use the same word it's a talking point like and that's the problem we need to get away from talking points I I'm glad that he he stepped down because I took no joy in criticizing speeches from somebody who was doing the best they could and he probably has moments where he's brilliant but that's the ugliness of Aging that you one day everything's going great and it's happened to us all like one day like wrestling I'm throwing guys around and one day I'm a step slow it happens and you'll have good days and you have bad days but and that's great in any other profession but being the president of the United States and basically the policeman of the world you know what I was struck by Harry last night was he he kept talking about you know the threat to democracy and the importance of honesty and integrity and public life and so on but then he said this about passing the torch just listen to this clip so I've decided the best way forward is to pass the torch to a new generation that's the best way to unite our nation no I'm sorry har that was just a blatant lie he didn't decide it was time to pass the torch only the day before he quit he was absolutely gangho I'm going to be running I'm going to be president I'm going to win four more years blah blah blah blah blah even in the speech last night he said he thinks he still has it in him to do a for another term of office but that's not what happened what happened was the Democrat Grandes Barack Obama the clintons Chuck Schumer Hollywood stars like George Clooney Penning oped pieces and newspapers and so on they all collaborated with the donors as Tyra said who yanked the money to torch him he was torched by his own side that's what happened isn't it I mean I think it's a combination of things I think that there was obviously concern among party Elites you might call them I don't know if that's the word there was a concern there was a poll came out on Sunday morning saying he was seven points down in Michigan as Frank L said one of the three crucial swing States and at that point bang the Rope was was pulled right but it's also his it was also his decision he could have stayed in the race and said like I'm the nominee I got the votes I won the Primary I'm going to get the delegates I'm going to be the nominee but he looked at the data and made The Honorable decision said no I'm not going to but is he that honorable to do it now I mean he's that sounds great but let's be honest Nancy Pelosi walked in and said we can do it easy the hard way the hard way was the hard way was Article 25 you know what it was like the meet Good Fellas one of my favorite fil right and I happen to know Joe pesi very well through golf so um it's the scene where Joe pesi thinks he's going to be the made man right and the whole buildup ho ghost thing and he goes in and they Whack Him right I think that's what happened with Joe Biden on Sunday I think to say that it's like oh it's not honorable because it's taking place now I think it's a little bit disingenuous I you say that because the other two Democrat incumbent Presidents since World War II who have resigned in election year and decided not to vote did did it massively early in the process did at the start of the year which gave their replacement the chance to really build proper momentum by giving carala Harris only four months you know it could end up being we don't know yet and she might well turn it around and she might win so let's put that caveat there but if she was to lose quite badly you could look back at it and say that had he pulled out a lot earlier it would have given her a better chance but I think we can both agree that the political circumstances back then with like a Lynden Johnson was different than now right the reason it's happening now well not really he was in his case it was the Vietnam War had made him very un popular so they thought he would lose right here Joe Biden's physical and cognitive state made him increasingly unpopular and despite all the achievements that people like you queue up to tell us he made and I'm not disputing some of them are genuine achievements but his approval ratings at 37% he and he's I keep hearing this week he's the greatest president of modern times why is he so unpopular then why is people not just literally why why are there not parades in the streets for the greatest president of all time it's 37% approval we know the reason historically the American people will blame the commander-in-chief for things that are often out of their control so inflation and gas prices we I think anybody who's honest will recognize that Joe Biden obviously didn't cause those things that those things are Global factors inflation cuse all the financial problems in his final year it was the pandemic I agree Democrats tus from memory up to blame him the first day he got in office and shut down the the oil pipe he hit the green light for Russia and China he changed the dynamic of the oil when who he who controls the oil controls the way things go so he made a lot of uh but again I don't believe that these policies were Joe Biden's I believe that the real issue is that whether it was KLA Harris or whomever made decisions and the president wasn't unable to and we saw that the debate is the reason why he's out they pulled the money and they said enough here's the here's the good here's the part Barack Obama he is a a constitutionalist to the 10th power like he when it comes so he won't endorse and I don't think his endorsement is based off he doesn't think can win like those reports are I think he doesn't like the way the process was I think he we're split there are reports so just before we came on there's two reports and you can have the same thought on the same thing he can say he doesn't think she could win and he can also endorse her yeah I think he will end the idea that Barack Obama is not going to speaks a black woman no but because looking at but in in defense of him I think he's looking at he doesn't like the process I think he wanted an open uh debate at and would that have been better for the Democrats do you think I think it would have been better in terms of showing kamla doing her own thing because the the Republican side we've made huge mistakes and I thought it wasn't possible I thought you know after the assassination attempt after the speech but literally the VP pick didn't help talking about her as a woman whether she has children or not moronic and stupid I don't know why my the Republican Party politicians seem to think the answer to getting votes is telling women what and not to do with their body that's stupid like these are we had a 40-point lead hang agreeing with each other I'm I'm agreeing with what you're saying right now it's not hard like listen I'm I'm not a tent guy I'm too big for that you know that so I call balls and Strikes and we were sitting in a great position and now no one's going to talk about the fact that Biden's policies weren't his or investigating who was doing what and what was Jill's role who's this role now we're going to be talking about Trump insulting a woman yeah so you literally all the work we've got this huge lead and if we just stuck to policy and deeds and let them call him a felon and let because Americans when they call him that they respond with what they send more money AG insulted person there's a new campaign out out on behalf of Kam Harris Let's Take a look at this in this election we each face a question what kind of country do we want to live in there are some people who think we should be a country of chaos of fear of hate but us we choose something different we choose freedom [Music] freedom you know Harry my mother who's uh just turned at very youthful glamorous at I might add but she she messaged me yesterday saying what do you think of Kam Harris she seems to have added a lot of energy to this race which was a really interesting observation whether you like her don't like her agree with her don't agree with her there's unbelievable amount of new energy in this Democrat side of the race because she is 20 years younger than Biden obviously on her game she's smart she's presentable she's good on TV she's galvanizing people the money's pouring in and so on do you believe though that once that honeymoon period inevitably quietens down and there's a more forensic analysis of her record do you worry that she is too far left in her record to actually avoid Trump stomping all over politically not at all I think that the idea that she's just like this Progressive liberal who only sides with progressives and doesn't reach across the aisle is nonsense I mean she's been part of the bid was she was rated more left than Bernie Sanders I mean I think that if we actually look at the policy on an individual level that's not the case Bernie Sanders is like for Medicare for all KLA Harris has never endorsed such system so I think we actually have to look at the policy and that tells a different story but her record is certainly not a progressive one in the sense that it's like a Bernie Sanders kind of policy she was a district attorney a prosecutor she sent people to jail she's definitionally in favor of the rule of law she also wanted to defund the police that's not great she never she's never come out and said let's defund the police she effectively did well effectively in saying are two different things okay I mean look the other thing she was was she was clearly build as the immigration borders are right tus which they're now trying to deny ever calling here but it's a brilliant thing I saw was NewsBusters did it um or somebody did it uh they did a mashup of all the people on the left saying well they never called the borders on you have them all call dis that is gold and that should be on every campaign ad with Republicans is there but as as soon as yeah as soon as we stop talking about policy and getting because KLA is going to want a street fight because Trump will beat her up in a street fight and he will say all kinds of stuff that we'll be like oh that's hilarious and independents will be like oh that's not okay so they want a street fight Ag and if if and it's hard she's already goting it and she's hit me it's not let's go hit me it literally is hands down I dare you I dare you come after come after a black woman if you want yeah because it's going to look bad but if he doesn't take the bait like he did he showed great restraint in the Biden debate he could have attacked him he went Adam he made the one comment which I thought for him was he showed great restraint he actually he was compassionate even in sense that he didn't go after him or make fun of him which would have been a horrible mistake and if he goes into debate with kamla and starts calling her dumb or even the horrible it's going to be a mistake we policy policy policy that's what the American people want to hear we tired of it and you can't be you can't run one size deceiving and not doing what they need to do youing your head because we win on policy like I I I wanted to be polic I'll take that bet I I no I agree I think we're the party of pro-choice We're the Party of capping insulin $35 a month we're the party of fighting climate change We're the Party of investing in infrastructure so I I want a policy conversation when does that kick in cuz I have a type 1 diabetic at home and I fori on Medicare well you know Joe Biden's trying to or well I guess it's going to be KLA Harris is the nominee wants to expand it to all Americans not just seniors on Medicare that's our agenda I think so her record is his record well they work together it's that's all you need president Trump just run on the record I agree look at the largest investment in infrastructure since Eisenhower largest investment in fighting climate change in world history and as we mentioned capping ins $35 a month for seniors on Medicare if you want that to be her record I'm there yeah none of that happened but I listen can we all agree on one thing this race just got a lot more interesting I think it got worse we're going to see the worst in everybody sad yeah that is the fear isn't it yeah it's clear carela is is going low deliberately and the big question and we probably all know the answer is can Trump rise above it and I'm not convinced he has that valve it's but we see difficult guys thank you very much good to talk to you both I'm joined now by the host of Michael N show Michael NES wajah Ali from the democracy is podcast and the Republican spokeswoman Elizabeth pipco welcome to all of you um Elizabeth pipco let me start with you how concerned are you that the mood music is moved from hero Trump survives assassins bullet and polls are surging and there's no way he could possibly lose to Old Man Biden to suddenly now all the talk is resurgent Democrats younger nominee uh galvanizing support in a way that Biden never could you must be concerned as a party aren't you I wouldn't say concern concerned um if I'm being honest we all see the excitement behind KLA Harris we all know um what it means to have a movement like this because we have our own right we know what it means when you can raise um record amounts of donations we know what it means when people come out in droves uh to your rallies I don't think what she has compares to the movement behind Donald Trump but I 100% agree it's a different race than it was against Joe Biden at the same time I was just watching your show with Harry and Tyrus and I think everything Tyrus said remains true we fight on policy and policy alone the American people are not happy with the policies they've seen from this Administration uh KLA Harris owns that record she was a part of that ticket a part of that Administration and on policy alone we hands down will win this election the the problem it seems to me is that Donald Trump can call Joe Biden dumb as a rock or a lunatic and nobody really cares but the moment he starts saying it about carela Harris even I'm wincing a bit it's like it's not a good look it's kind of for one of a better phrase It's kind of ungentlemanly and so the his narrative and rhetoric has to change asn't Elizabeth I mean you you know you wouldn't like being called dumb as a rock would you I definitely would not though it happens quite a bit I won't lie to you um look I 100% agree I think that the debate that we saw against Joe Biden has to be um a very good uh starting point for the next three months which we didn't expect to be the campaign that it will inevitably be now I think Donald Trump pooped that he's able to keep substance at the Forefront of the debate on the Forefront of his mind and I think like you said that is the only way to win this fight the American people are sick of being as divided and as attacked as we constantly have been for the last four years and I truly think the only way forward is to leave those attacks behind I certainly will never um utter any words like that from my mouth that's not what I believe in that's not the America that I want and I think the best foot forward is a strict policy debate that's all that matters at this point the American people know that they're not happy with the policies of Democrats have put forward they want Donald Trump to be there to answer their questions and solve their problems and that is like you said the only way that he's going to win this fight before I turn to the other two for their response to this do have you had this conversation with Donald Trump have you said to him dial it down that kind of chat about Kamala Harris I I personally have not I can tell you he talks regularly with people around him and he's also incredibly intuitive he knows what kind of race this is I believe him when he says he wants nothing but Unity moving forward I believe the assassination attempt changed him as a human I believe he wants to win this race I believe he wants to save this country and make it better and I believe he knows the best way to do that and I do believe we'll see a different Donald Trump moving forward because he knows what he needs to do to win the race and that is a calmer more focused more substantive debate and more substantive Donald Trump okay let's go to the other two Michael nolles um there's no doubt the dynamic of this race has changed do you think it's going to change the result I don't think so I don't think you're really seeing that in the polls and the polls Trump is still looking pretty good especially in the swing States and especially when you consider the distinction between the Electoral College and the popular vote I think this is why you have some leading Democrats who are saying that they actually don't want to be the vice president they don't want to be the running mate uh they don't really want to challenge kamla and so there there is some new energy I totally agree with that but kamla has some major vulnerabilities here as you pointed out piers in the previous segment comma was the most liberal member of the Senate when she was there your previous guest Harry Sone said something that wasn't true uh he said that she was not for Medicare for all she was you can see it on her medium blog page from 2019 my plan for Medicare for all and she was she was far to the left on so many other issues the other big vulnerability is that though the Democrats want to deny it now in March of 2021 President Biden said that kamla Harris was going to be in charge of the Border policy so you know they're they're trying to change their uh news stories on it but he said I'm putting her in the lead of of immigration that has been the most Monumental failure of the Biden Administration and it top of people's issues someone did a big matchup and it had all the liberal commentators and anchors at CNN MSNBC and so on all denying yesterday that she'd ever been called the bordar and then some of a clipped up evidence that their own networks had indeed called the bordar and I think that's a really significant debate to be had because it's indisputable that she was depicted that way and there's no doubt if if you then accept but she was the Border Zar that her management of the Border as the Zar has been a complete and utter disaster of course I be I actually have Biden's exact words I just finished broadcasting my own show and I I I even second guess myself I said oh maybe I misunderstood I seem to recall every news organization reporting this but maybe I was wrong no he said on March 24th I have asked for the VP today to lead our efforts with Mexico and the northern triangle and the countries that help are going to need help in stemming the movement of so many folks steming the migration to our Southern border it's not her full responsibility and job but she's leading the effort and he even turns to her he says Madam vice president thank you I gave you a tough job so it is a tough job she totally failed and they got answer for it yeah I mean watch there's no doubt she was put in charge of solving the Border crisis we've just heard it from Biden's own voice why are people on the left trying to deny that uh we're not trying to deny anything we have a prosecutor against predator and now the oldest person to ever run for president Donald Trump who by the way did not do a a 180 after surviving the assassination attempt he did uh a 360 he's exactly the same person he was you're talking about axos axios referred to her as the borders are and then axios later corrected itself yesterday uh look if I'm Democrats I'd run on the border compared to Trump sure you know why cuz Joe Biden and kamla Harris proposed one of the strictest immigration form bills that they had the bipartisan uh Unity with conservatives and guess who tanked it Donald Trump Republicans said that Donald Trump called him up and decided to tank this border bill this bipartisan border bill because he knew it would help Joe Biden so a person who does not care about security and the Border that's Donald Trump also as of today the lowest border crossings even lower than Donald Trump is happening in what the Biden Harris Administration and talking about immigration and the Border guess who wants to deport up to 15 million people illegally Donald Trump he's running on it guess who wants to create camps Donald Trump so I'm perfectly fine with liberals and this growing multi-racial Multicultural Coalition like you said Piers there's enthusiasm there's excitement especially with women with young people with people of color against Donald Trump and I don't think Donald Trump can stop being Donald Trump it just took 3 days and we saw the RNC conference you know at the first 30 minutes of the speech he was doing pretty well and then he did 9,000 words Off Script and he talked about Hannibal Lecter and he mocked Nancy Pelosi with the hammer uh he called her crazy he did the post on Truth social he misspelled pole with pole uh he called lion kamla and then Mike Johnson pierce the leader of the House of Republicans had to tell his party to not be racist when you're off the gate starting like that you're on the losing tip that's my prediction all right Elizabeth um it's a lot to unpack there from W as you'd imagine I mean was a brilliantly valiant attempt at hiding the fact that Kam Harris said to the world don't come in and then 8 million people have probably come in uh by any yti whether you're democrat or republican the uh Biden administration's handling of a southern border has been a fiasco and her name is on that it was her job as we heard from Michael there from the words of President Biden she was the borders are she was um and I believe you said eight million people believe it's actually possible that it's much higher than that look we can go back and forth for hours and debate the fact that she was the bordar or wasn't the bordar uh the fact is that people are unhappy with the border right polling shows that people are unhappy with the state of this country and the border and immigration is one of those main issues on their mind the current Administration Joe Biden and comma Harris take full responsibility for that I don't think anyone is going to believe that kamla and Joe Biden are not resp responsible for this and um I think it's silly to go back and forth and claim something otherwise for us it's simply about policy and it's about the facts and I understand going back and forth about personality and Donald Trump versus KL Harris and what attacks will come out and what won't but the fact is today the American people say they're unhappy with several policies from this Administration they're unhappy with several things going on in this country and around the world and this Administration has full blame for all of that okay Michael nolles there's no doubt notwithstanding all this that the the race has changed in a sense of a lot more energy for the Democrats uh a lot more youth in their candidate than they had before and it's going to be I would imagine it's going to be a closer race than it could have been uh Donald Trump as we've heard from other guests today one of his biggest opponents is himself and his mouth how careful does he have to be do you think in terms of how he talks to carela Harris particularly if for example they do get it on on a debate stage in September because if we thought the last debate was electric and consequential and the way it went down you can only imagine how big it's going to be with Donald Trump and carela Harris standing there for 90 minutes so how careful does he have to be Trump needs to change the way that he speaks based on whether he's speaking to a man or a woman of course this is true Trump knows this he ran against a woman in 16 and he beat a woman in 16 and uh Republicans unlike our Democrat friends do know the difference between men and women so of course he's going to have to use different rhetoric but uh I'm I'm not all concerned about it I I think he's going to do just fine when they tried to hammer him on rude language to women in 16 of course he said I only use that language about Rosie O'Donnell and he sort of laughed it off and and it it seemed to work out just fine meanwhile you're you're going to hear the rhetoric of kamla Harris she's going to it seems continue this campaign theme that Trump is an existential threat to democracy that Biden has been pushing that of course established the premise that would justify the assassination attempt so I think that's perilous rhetorical ground for the Democrats and then you're going to hear a lot of vague rhetoric the famous line from kamla the only one we hear repeated over and over is that she wants to imagine what can be unburdened by what has been you saw in in kamla's first campaign commercial it's all just about freedom in the abstract yes she runs on abortion yes she runs on guns issues that she can always harp on in the future but she doesn't run on anything else that is specific because her record on the economy on her administration's record on National Security on the border on Foreign Affairs it's so dismal she doesn't seem to have a vision that resonates with people that's why when she ran for president she had to get out of the race before the first primary yeah I mean watch there's a lot go ahead yeah go sure respond you respond it's fine you respond well yeah yeah response to your question Donald Trump is a 78-year-old man he will not change we have covered him for 9 years he will not change he survived an assassination attempt he did not change even at the RNC he could not stay disciplined if I'm Republicans I'm very worried because I believe Donald Trump has peaked he survived the assassination attempt he had that heroic photo he had the bandage on the ear he had the whole world behind him at the RNC he coronated you know JD Vance as the VP you had the whole RNC convention and all that is now gone all that is deflated and also he has a terrible track record because unlike 2016 he takes credit for overturning roie Wade and he has appointed JD Vance who as your last guest said as attacking women for being mean childless cat ladies for being miserable I'm telling you that women are paying attention to the point that even Jennifer Aniston yes Rachel herself who doesn't get involved in politics was horrified yesterday and posted that clip of JD Vance the attack on women the attack on women's rights the fact that now a jury of his peers has said that he is liable for rape against egene Carroll and defamation and he's a criminal convict and the fact he's a fraudster he owes New York over $400 million he's on parole he can't vote uh in Florida and the fact that there's misogynist attacks for the last three days I'm telling you pierce in America women even Independents Republican women are horrified by this this is the man who said he grabs women by the pee and oh it's just locker room talk it's 2024 I'm telling you a lot of women were pissed and I've said this before I'll say it again Republican party have underestimated the righteous Rage of women and I believe women have remembered and I believe women and young people in particular will come after Donald Trump and support KLA Harris he will not change they're stuck with him all right Elizabeth um let let's just play again the clip of him talking about whether he should be nice or not because it's kind of relevant to this about whether he feels he ought to change let's take a look you know I was supposed to be nice they say something happened to me when I got shot I became nice and when you're dealing with these people they're very dangerous people when you're dealing with them you can't be too nice you really can't be so if you don't mind I'm not going to be nice is that okay so Elizabeth you know does he want to change I mean he was almost mocking the idea that people were saying oh he's going to be going through a lifechanging thing and blah blah blah I got to say I spoke to him on Saturday he didn't sound like he changed changed much to me I've known him nearly 20 years but of course he would argue that part of his appeal why he's so popular again when everyone thought he was dead and buried a year and a half ago the reason he's back surging away in the polls and in fact has never had a higher popularity number than he has today is because he is authentic he's true to himself he is a bit of a badass he does speak from know shoot from the hit when he talks and he says a lot of stuff which you know shocks people makes people laugh he's he's not the conventional politician is it actually politically wise for him to try and change and suddenly be Mr Nice Guy you know maybe holding babies and you know cuddling cats I don't think we'll ever see him cuddling a cat um but I mean look the multiple things can be true at once he could um like Michael said realize he's talking to a woman at this debate and realize that he might have to change his strategy a little bit but also realize that like you said he is a bad us and that's why people love him everything that has been mentioned about him in these last five minutes was true a couple of weeks ago I know Joe Biden was then the candidate but like you said Donald Trump was polling at record numbers for him the best he'd ever been doing politically since he first announced in 2015 so clearly it does work for him I don't think I would want to change if I was you know coming back after I don't even know how many times people said that he was you know dead and gone and his career was over in politics so I understand people that say that he should change I understand people that say he should not change I think the only person that can make the proper decision here is Donald Trump he has a very good political instinct which is why he's still around and why he's the Republican nominee right now despite like you said countless people thinking he would not be um I think for us it's about strategy like you said policy policy policy and for him it's about realizing that there is maybe a middle ground but that the badass that is Donald Trump is the reason that Donald Trump is here right now and I agree with you he will never lose that part of him and he will certainly never cuddle a cat no I don't think he will now watch you hat we've done a bit of research while we've been on air because you were very clear that people on the left had not said she carela was to Bazar and are now trying to rigle off the hook so we've got a little matchup which NewsBusters had prepared for the delectation of the world let's take a look bordar vice president Harris was not a bordar being time vice president and borders are kamla Harris facing some backlash what he said about Harris and immigration was not true she was never appointed borders are and this will be her first visit to the uh us Mexico border region since she was appointed as the borders are by President Biden people going have to counter the misinformation you already hear folks talking about the bordar she wasn't the bordar President Biden tapped kamla Harris vice president kamla Harris to be the Border Zar now she wasn't the bordar that's what Republicans uh labeled her they were very critical of kamla Harris especially in her role as border Zar now what she's up against is folks lying about her border record calling her a borders are KLA Harris Who was appointed as the borders are the Biden team didn't declare her the borders are they wanted her to work on kind of the root causes of immigration there has been so much criticism against kamla Harris you know she was the Border Zar calling her sort of the Border Zar uh which wasn't necessarily the case so the Border if they weren't planning to address it in a major way do not make her your borders are she met with some of the northern triangle countries but nothing has effectively changed now W would you like to R your emphatic denial that ever happened uh I last time I checked uh I don't think I talked about about the bordar I don't think you showed a single clip of President Biden calling her a bordar I don't think you showed a single clip of you said it was only a you said only axos no no we have every major Network in America saying one thing and they're trying to deny it they all called her the borders are and the reason the reason they all want to try and deny it now is because they realize it's incredibly damaging to carela Harris if it is seen by the American people that she was indeed in charge of sorting out the Border problem and presided over a complete disaster so it's actually a critical thing here and I'm bemused why the media is trying to pretend they didn't say what they said all of them well two things well two things real quick when you were talking about that one publication yesterday that uh flip-flopped I gave you the name it's axios that flip-flopped and the media like is not trusted by either wait wait wait the media that is not trusted by either the liberals or Republicans said a lot of stuff and they were the ones calling her the borders are but Joe Biden never did KL Harris never did she was not the borders are she had a responsibility to talk to these countries specifically Central American countries to see if they can engage in policy to reduce the weight to reduce the flow of migrants but facts matter right now the lowest Crossing of migrants even lower than even lower than Trump hang on facts do matter and Michael can you for the benefit of waj who clearly wasn't listening to you earlier can you re repeat what Joe Biden said about carela Harris in relation to her J I'll add in another line too which I excluded earlier W hat you just said that that Biden never made her the Border s or put her in charge of the Border quote March 24th 2021 I've asked her the VP today to lead our efforts with Mexico and the northern triangle and the countries that help are going to need help in stemming the movement of many folks stemming the migration to our Southern border it's not her full responsibility in job but she's leading the effort when she speaks she speaks for me he Imus her with presidential Authority and then he turns to her Madam vice president thank you I gave you a tough job W what about that is confusing okay I was an English major throw your hands up and admit you were wrong no I'm I know you guys are doing the rnc's work uh for them I know you're struggling right now matter you said no I you said you all are saying that she's the borders are and I have ears and I heard that and she is not the borders are she literally was given that responsibility she's not the borders are and if you want to play on immigration I will gladly play on immigration please explain to me why Donald Trump called up Republicans and told them to tank what would have been the strictest bipartisan immigration bill in which he said would help President Biden and Republicans bent the knee so in instead of helping I don't mind you playing but actually it has been Joe Biden's presiden years I'm when it comes to facts you're on slightly slippery ground today I have to say I want to change subject now and I want to move to uh Benjamin netanyahu's appearance yesterday in Congress W I will start with you here because I can imagine you were probably not one of the people uh joining in the wild celebrations of people in Congress at netanyahu's speech uh yeah I mean this is the most unpopular leader in Israel 72% of Israelis don't like him uh the family members of the hostages Israeli hostages don't like him and protest to him he is one of the most uh hated leaders in all the world and he came to the United States of America gaslit America uh spent lies about America tried to get American money for his failed War tried to get America again to engage in another war on Israel's behalf send US troops and US money to fight this war in Iran and I I think most people were horrified and disgusted by it uh he lied about his track record took zero responsibility for his failures in this war his failure to bring back the hostages lied things that we've talked about on your show Pierce for the past 10 months the civilian casualties uh the death of 40,000 people uh he tried to minimize all of that and look the Republicans like lap dogs ate it up they applauded him I thought it was very shameful especially as he mocked and ridiculed even US citizens who are protesting you could disagree with a protest but he called them Hamas does that include the Jewish protesters does that include the family members of the hostages who flew here from Israel to protest him and also I want to remind people that Israel itself Israel's top security intelligence uh officials sent a letter to the United States asking US congress not to host n yahu because they said not me they said n yahu is an existential threat to Israel Republicans lapped it up gave him hooting and hollering Standing Ovation shameful sight see shameful sight to see okay Michael NOS I mean I look I I've got to admit I found it a little unpalatable the scale of the kind of celebratory mood towards Netanyahu given what has happened in this war since last October I've always said Israel had an absolute fundamental right and duty to defend itself after the horrific terror attack of October the 7th but the overwhelming scale has struck me as increasingly disproportionate and there's no apparent plan for what happens to the people of Gaza at the end of all this most of Gaza has now been destroyed and the the ongoing deaths of innocent people continue unabated uh while everyone is distracted by what's happening over here in America I mean there's there's a there's a way to support some someone who runs one of the great allies of America without looking like it was a celebration of the way that Israel perpetrated the war isn't there certainly I think part of the reason that especially republicans in Congress were uh welcoming to prime minister Netanyahu is because so many leftists in America have have reacted so uh violently even against uh the the notion of Israeli self-defense and in favor of pro the prop Palestine movement so wad mentions gaslighting the only gaslighting I saw yesterday was the gaslighting on the American flags at Union Station when the pro Palestine protesters lit it on fire I I think that that kind of imagery is why so many Americans are are willing to take Israel's side in this and so I I totally agree with you peers I mean Israel is its own country and we have interests that overlap in some ways and we have interests that diverge in some ways and I don't think the American people want to go to war in Iran or pursue regime change in Iran or anything like that but uh when when prime minister Netanyahu says that they're Americans acting as useful idiots for Iran and these are Americans who are who are uh in League with people who are burning the American flag that raises a lot of eyebrows and it's going to lead people to support the other side yeah Elizabeth what was your overview of yesterday because everyone has a again a fundamental right to peacefully protest but that should not extend to brazenly supporting Hamas as some of those protesters were doing and again I ask you the same question did you feel entirely comfortable with the scale of the Ovation that Netanyahu was getting yesterday it's interesting I haven't thought about your second question no asked me that and when I I watched um I didn't think about that however when you say it if I'm being completely honest I was uncomfortable um with what I saw in Congress when um they were waving Ukrainian flags and celebrating um Aid to Ukraine so yeah I think I'm a little uncomfortable when I see anyone uh showing some kind of loyalty or excitement for a country when we have to focus on what's going on here and when uh like was mentioned what happened in Israel what's been going on for nine months now has caused as much pain as it has that being said Benjamin Netanyahu is the democratically elected leader of one of our strongest and closest allies and I think worse than the celebration um as you called it in Congress yesterday was the fact that many elected officials were not there the fact that KLA Harris was not there and the fact that BB Netanyahu had to stand there and applaud those that stand for the American flag while our own people outside were burning the American flag and screaming that Hamas is coming so there's many things that we can say about um yesterday there's a lot going on obviously but I find it incredibly uncomfortable incredibly sad um and appalling if I'm being honest to see the reaction to a leader of our Ally in this country after everything that's going on and knowing uh full well that Americans are being held hostage right now as well and a good relationship with Israel and with BB Netanyahu could ensure that those hostages come home so I think it was inappropriate at best but disgraceful honestly at worst that we're talking about everything that went on yesterday Donald Trump is obviously uh he he saw Benjamin Netanyahu he's a big supporter of Israel did a lot of work in that region when he was president um as with all these things Donald Trump makes it sound easy to fix the problem but it's not easy is it I mean Elizabeth it's going to be an incredibly difficult and complex and probably very long running issue to try and resolve what has happened in Israel and Gaza since the events of October the 7th I would only assume that it would be um look it can't be easy to fix anything that's gone on in our world or anything that's happened in the last four years of this Biden Administration however I think Donald Trump's record uh speaks for itself uh he has spoken for uh wanting peace for many years peace through strength as he calls it and despite all the attacks on him despite everyone saying that moving the embassy would cause a mass chaos and everything else that he did meeting with Kim Jong-un Etc he did have peace during those four years and since Joe bid has come in we've seen the opposite I'm not sitting here and saying anyone can fix either conflict in Ukraine or in Gaza in 24 hours but I will say that after the last four years that we have seen I can only imagine the American people want a change and to give someone else a chance because the war in Ukraine is ongoing with no end in sight uh obviously what's going on in Gaza has no end in sight with Americans being held and dozens of Americans being murdered on October 7th and people have every right to want someone to come in and put a stop to all of this okay look I want to just bring in another guest and then get the panel's reaction after I finished this uh interview I'm joined by the Republican South Carolina Cong Congresswoman Nancy mace now uh Nancy ma thank you very much inde for joining me you made a lot of headlines because during the hearing of the then secret service director Kimberly cheetle before she uh sensationally resigned you said this most of my questions are going to demand a yes or no answer do you understand I do okay my first question both sides of the aisle today have asked for your resignation would you like to use my 5 minutes to draft your resignation letter yes or no no thank you was this a colossal failure it was a failure yes or no was it a colossal failure is the question yes or no I have admitted this is a Terri this is a yes or no series of questions was this a colossal failure yes or no yes have you provided all audio and video recordings in your possession to this committee as we asked on July 15th yes or no I would have to get back to you that is a no you're full of today you're just being completely dishonest Mr chairman I want to Mr we have to maintain the Quorum in this committee you are being dishonest or lying like I I just you're being dishonest here with this committee these are important questions that the American people want answers to and you're just you're just dodging and and talking around it in generalities and we had a subpoena you to be here and you won't even answer the questions we've asked you repeatedly to answer our questions this is isn't hard well I have to say Ny M I did think you spoke for most of us when you Ed that expletive uh just on the the decorum point do you wish with hindsight you hadn't used that language or do you think it pretty well hit the that on the head I could have said much worse Pierce uh on Monday my frustrations were deep and I believe I was simply saying aloud what every person watching that hearing across the country and the world was feeling that day because here is a woman who is the director of The Secret Service and would not either could not would not was unable or unwilling to answer even the simplest of questions on Monday like she couldn't even tell us the number of Secret Service agents on the ground protecting Donald Trump at the rally that day and you saw hand ringing by Republicans and Democrats alike both sides by the end of the day had many of us most of us had called for her resignation she sat there brazen Fant and basically gave a middle finger to uh Middle America on Monday and she deserved everything that I gave her it was a pretty shocking performance after a pretty shocking failure by the agency uh on the day that Donald Trump was shot um when you saw what she was doing in front of you guys saw how she was obfuscating sure saw how she wasn't answering really any questions um did it show you that there is something fundamental wrong with the secret service at the moment in terms of its structure and Leadership absolutely and but I think this is fundamental this is a fundamental problem across many of our federal agencies and the thing that I walked away with and I I had you know 24 hours to think about it after I filed my articles of impeachment by the way I was going to force a vote on outing her and firing her within 48 hours but the thing that I that really struck me a few hours after the hearing was perhaps they didn't share any information with her because of anticipation of her testifying before Congress and if that's what happened if that was the case is that if that's why she couldn't answer our questions we the problem is even bigger than I imagined um the obca this is clearly dishonest actions they're trying to hide information from us uh and she's going to be part of the cover up and we've got to get to the bottom of it and I'm glad to see speaker Mike Johnson create a task force specific to this investigation because we all deserve answer and we ought to know that they're going to do everything they can to ensure no one tries to shoot Donald Trump ever again right I mean I've got to say I've seen some baffling things in my time as a journalist over four decades I cannot remember anything quite as inexplicable as what went down on that day that Donald Trump was shot in we now discover from uh the FBI uh boss's testimony yesterday that this kid who's 20 years old we know we know so little about which in itself is so weird that he was flying a drone over the stage area where Donald Trump was due to speak two hours before and nobody from the Secret Service appeared to notice or do anything to try and work out who was flying this drone then he just ambles up onto this roof which is clearly to even the most amateur uh security Observer would be the most obvious place for an assassin to put themselves if they wanted to get a clear shot at president Trump um he's T to take his gun up there uh we have members of the public warning officials that they can see this kid on this roof there are Secret Service snipers with trained sites on him who've seen him but he still gets off eight at least eight bullets none of this makes any sense to me I'm not a conspiracy theorist until I believe there's a theory that can be proven but none of this makes any sense how did this happen well I think it it's one of two things and I'm not a conspiracy theorist either it's either incompetency or it's conspiracy and and I made the point in the hearing on Monday that between the time that they took their first photo and and saw him uh on deck at the rally 57 minutes went by Between the time they took the first photo the first agent took the first photo and the first shots were fired now the 20-year-old Crooks was killed within seconds so clearly it seems like logic would tell you they had him in their sights also so uh it is baffling which is why it's so important that we get transparency and unfortunately we're not getting it from federal agents we are getting more information from local law enforcemen on the ground who also informed us that the Secret Service missed an important security briefing that morning the morning of the rally we also know that building wasn't swept even though it was used as a staging location for law enforcement so this law enforcement were buzzing around people were buzzing around individuals saw him this was able to happen and and no one did anything about it and so uh more than one person should probably resign we need to force testimony by secretary my orcus and we need to hear from whistleblowers who have information that can piece the puzzle together that the federal government refuses to do today are you concerned as some people have been about the impact of a Dei policy with a secret service when you looked at the way that the and I I don't want to single out the female agents I'm sure they're all highly trained and as Elite as the men in the Secret Service but there was something really uncom comfortable about watching the interaction and behavior of those female agents at the front of the car in particular the one who couldn't even apparently holster her gun properly several times that imagery does not send to the world a confidence that the presidents of the United States previous or current or future are being protected by the world's most elite agents right and even former director Cheeto said on Monday she didn't have any quotas but we know because we have the receipts it was over 33% that she required to be female agents now now the thing that really worse than the video uh Pierce was the the harrowing image of Donald Trump with his fist in the air is an image that will go down iconically in history but the one thing that really Disturbed me from that image was the female agent uh trying her best to cover up Donald Trump but she left his entire head his face his heart all exposed so if there was another shooter a second shooter she was unable physically to lift him up off the ground because she was too small but also she left all of his major organs exposed so if he were to get shot in that position he would have been killed and that to me I'm sure there are many women who are trained in in secret service or in law enforcement who were taller than 5 feet and who could cover him up and help him uh keep him protected in that particular gesture uh that was really disturbing for me to watch yeah I completely agree I'd be saying this from the start because although was an iconic image of defiance by Donald Trump he should never have been allowed to do it you know when he was taken down by the Secret Service their next move collectively should have been to gut him off that stage into a car and out of there as fast as humanly possible without exposing him to the potential of a second shooter but instead they allowed him to stand back up they put a small a relatively small female agent in front of him which doesn't protect him from his uh from his upper torso up to his top of head none of that again made sense to me so what are you guys all doing it's like Keystone cop stuff no seriously and and we you know when America is strong the world is strong that was definitely a show of weakness on the world stage and it's incumbent upon us to ensure that we have strong leaders who are going to call it like they see it like I did on Monday and ensure that this culture of failure in the Biden Administration does not continue which is why it's so important that we elect Donald Trump but that we elect strong leaders because very few people in Congress on in either chamber are willing to call it out are willing to ask the tough questions and are willing to uh do more than write a strongly worded letter if we want to fire someone an officer that we can impeach then we ought to force a vote on it for example which is what I did Monday night I'm tired of seeing hearings and nothing coming from them so if you are responsible for this horrific tragedy that happened if if Biden isn't going to fire you we ought to force your resignation that's what we did on Tuesday morning but it's time more for Action less talking more action when these kinds of horrific things are happening people have to be held accountable and that's got to be on both sides of the aisle going forward two quick questions uh away from this before I let you go one in about President Biden's final address to the American people we assume it's his final address from overal office um what was your response watching it last night well confu he was clearly confused and he would not admit to why he was stepping down H from his campaign it didn't give any confidence uh in him being able to lead our country over the next six months that was very telling that they're continuing the cover up no one is willing to admit why he's stepping down from the campaign and if you don't have the strength or mental acuity to run a race for president you certainly don't have the strength or mental acuity to run the United States of America um I believe that the 25th amendment should be invoked here um but also there's no one more weak than Joe Biden than Camala har so we can't get November just can't come here fast enough today because I want to show American strength and I will tell you the words of BB Netanyahu last night that Camala and Joe Biden both skipped made me for feel more proud to be an American than any other foreign dignitary who's been in there to date it was deeply inspiring that is the kind of strength America needs to have going forward to fight terrorism to fight against the woke left to fight against all these policies that are bringing our country down finally as a woman uh a republican woman do you think that Donald Trump and JD Vance both have to be more careful about the language they're using now towards a female nominee on the other side now I'm going to give you three examples one Donald Trump yesterday called carela Harris dumb as a rock a lunatic and garbage and JD Vance from an earlier clip from an interview with Tua Carlson several years ago called her a childless cat lady which is now being used uh obviously by kamla Harris's side as a stick to beat the Republicans with as a bunch of misogynists does the game have to change now in terms of rhetoric because there is a woman now likely to be the nominee I just watched Camala Harris give a speech Just moments ago where she called every single Republican an extremist and was spouting off lies and conspiracy theories about our party um I'm someone who likes to call it like I see it I do believe that it is it is very important that we as Republicans talk about women's issues and that we have women on the stage we have women speaking at Trump rallies and in fact it was Donald Trump uh who invited me onto the stage at the convention to talk about foreign policy to talk about women's issues and to tell my story as a single mom and as a Suburban mom and look when when Trump was President he had so many women in his cabinet uh he supports women he supports IVF he supports contraception and birth control he supports women who are victims of rape and victims of incest and those are the kinds of things that I want to see us talk about and I have uh I've had really good conversations with Donald Trump about women's issues I know that he cares he's a father of girls um and he's a grandfather and uh he's done a very good job so far talking about them but we've got more to do we've got between now and November to talk about the border to talk about inflation and to talk about how we support life and also how we support women in every single city across America okay Congresswoman Nancy ma thank you very much indeed for joining us s thank you sir let's go back to the panel for a quick reaction to that um wah hat uh your response to what happened to Donald Trump putting aside whether you like him or not we know where you sit with him personally it does seem to have been a quite spectacular failure by the Secret Service to protect someone who've been president of the United States I think we can all agree that we've never seen anything like that before all of it uh we need more information specifically how come they didn't know about the shooter how come after he was tagged about 90 seconds before uh the shooting by the crowd uh how come he wasn't stopped uh how come you know the I mean you and I have seen these uh episodes where secret servers protect uh individuals you know how come they didn't just whisk him away he he got back up during an act of shooting for that photo that itself honestly when I was watching them I'm like why what are they doing and then also as of yester yester I think the American people deserve to know more information about what happened Christopher Ray of the FBI said we don't know if a bullet hit him or if it was a Shard is it a bullet is it A Shard what's the hospital records I think Donald Trump should release the hospital records from that night we don't trust Ronnie Jackson or Ronnie Johnson whatever he calls him his Doctor Who's no longer a doctor he said oh no I treated him give us a hospital records what's the treatment what's the diagnosis what's the injury how is he healing give us more information and do more of an investigation as to how the Secret Service especially that team at that time bungled it up from before to the shooting to after the shooting we deserve more information all right Elizabeth I mean is it unreasonable for that information to be made public I mean it was interesting that the FBI director Ry yesterday seemed to cast some doubt over whether Donald Trump's ear injury had been sustained by a bullet or or by something else it would the best way to clear that up just be to release the medical records I can't speak for Donald Trump but I agree I think in the entrance of transparency the American people deserve that when it comes to what happened to him which we all saw unfortunately on our screens which was terrifying but also in regards to what happened with the Secret Service failure the American people deserve better than that um my father-in-law was actually sitting behind Donald Trump so I had one of the most terrifying 45 seconds of my life not knowing if either one of them um was alive we know that an American's life was actually lost um I think that the secret service director resigning is the bare minimum but it is uh what is owed of course to this family and to all of us but I think a deeper investigation must be had I think the American people deserve more they deserve answers Donald Trump deserves answers the family who lost a a father and a husband deserves answers and I think we all need to know what happened we need to ensure this never happens again and we need to know what caused this failure to begin with I think it's something that I would hope we all agreed on yeah I mean Mar there was a strange survey came out from Yuga a poll saying that 42% of Democrats blame Donald Trump and the Republicans for the attempted assassination of Donald Trump which just seemed to me to be a completely absurd finding of course they do because Joe Biden and all of the Democrat leadership have established that premise Joe Biden's entire campaign was predicated on Donald Trump posing an existential threat to democracy and Donald Trump following in the footsteps of Adolf Hitler which he said in many ways many times and so if those two things are true they're not true obviously like so many things that Biden says but if those things were true then that would justify the assassination of Donald Trump unless you think that we ought to play soft with Hitler or with existential threats to our country so I'm I'm not surprised that some 40% of Americans would blame the man who was almost murdered I also don't stay up at night wondering the answer to the questions of of this mythical Shard or or any other ways that the Democrats are trying to downplay the very near within a hair's breath assassination of Donald Trump only did not occur because at the last second he turned his head about 20 de I know that it wasn't a Shard from a teleprompter for instance because we have photographs from behind of the two teleprompters looking just fine after the bullet went through Trump's ear as to why he wasn't immediately whisked off stage I wonder why he wasn't held back in the holding room when they saw the shooter walking around along while before the speech me I'm I'm a you know just a regular Joe when I go to a speaking event they'll sometimes hold me back I'm not the president of the United States so that that needs an answer but then when he went down after having been shot the reason they didn't pull him off is he went down and he's a pretty big guy we were hearing earlier that that some of these agents couldn't even cover up to his chest and then Trump himself said hold on hold on let me get my shoe on and he stood up there and he reassured the crowd which demonstrated incredible political leadership showed courage literally Under Fire and then they got him off stage quickly after that the answers that that need to be given here are not how Donald Trump showed such immense courage and how this iconic photograph of political bravery was taken that the real question are why was Donald Trump not given sufficient security resources why did the Secret Service lie about the requests from the Trump campaign to get sufficient security resources and how how far up does this go sure the both parties now want to fire the secret service director and she resigned finally under duress but what about her boss Alejandra mayorcas the DHS secretary what about his boss Joe Biden how on Earth is the most threatened man on planet Earth Donald Trump even needing to ask for additional security and how on Earth could it have been denied I completely agree got to leave it there thank you to my panel Michael nolles wajah Ali Elizabeth pipco I appreciate it very much indeed that's it for us now many of you have noted that we are the content Kings here uncensored over the next few weeks there'll be slightly less content that's the king that's me takes a bit of a summer break but rest assured we'll be there when it 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