Lecture on Podcast Marketing with Grace Andrews

Jun 1, 2024

Lecture on Podcast Marketing with Grace Andrews

Introduction

  • Grace Andrews, marketing expert behind Stephen Bartlett's podcast, "The Diary of a CEO"
  • Took the podcast from 6,000 subscribers to 4 million
  • Shares social media strategies and insights

Grace’s Background

  • Freelancing prior to working with Stephen Bartlett
  • No formal marketing qualifications
  • Completed a Master’s in Broadcast Journalism during the pandemic
  • Shifted focus to social media journalism
  • Created "The Social Climber" to educate herself and attract clients
  • Worked pro bono initially to build experience

Getting the Job with Stephen Bartlett

  • Applied on a whim for the social media manager role
  • Contacted team members for insights
  • Emphasized the importance of passion and willingness to learn
  • Started with a small follower base, grew to millions

Role Evolution and Responsibilities

  • Transitioned from social media manager to marketing director
  • Leading and expanding a team
  • Emphasizes learning through experimentation and growth

Social Media Strategies

Initial State and Evolution

  • Early days: Text-based content; no Reels, TikTok, or LinkedIn videos
  • Introduced short-form content across platforms to boost reach
  • Testing and learning through content experimentation

Content Creation and Analysis

  • Aim to achieve specific goals: Growth, community engagement, new leads
  • Importance of research, execution, and feedback loop
  • Flexibility within structured strategies

Thumbnails and Titles

  • Importance of engaging thumbnails and titles
  • A/B testing of thumbnails (100 versions per episode)
  • Pre-research testing to determine engaging topics

Short-form Video Strategy

  • Focus on reach and engagement rather than pushing to long-form content
  • Highlight, edit, and publish the most engaging clips
  • Experimentation with content styles, subtitle styles, and story arcs

Brand and Audience Connection

  • Building emotion and connection beyond selling products
  • Example: Red Bull’s content creating a feeling of energy
  • For The Diary of a CEO: Content focused on inspiration, motivation, and engagement

Role of Experimentation

  • Constantly testing new ideas to improve reach and performance
  • Examples include new clip editing styles, hook placements, and content strategies

Trailers and Long-form Content

  • Unique and engaging trailers to tease new episodes
  • Full-time team members dedicated to trailer production

Recruitment Strategies

  • Giving candidates creative control and assessing their proactive engagement
  • Looking for candidates with passion, willingness to learn, and creativity

Big-picture Vision

  • Aiming to build The Diary of a CEO into a leading media brand
  • Expanding distribution channels (BBC iPlayer, airlines)
  • Focus on community engagement and delivering value

Personal Brand Development

  • Grace’s own social media presence as "The Social Climber"
  • Building a personal brand to experiment and stay ahead in the industry

Conclusion

  • Importance of community, connection, and continuous learning in social media marketing
  • Open to questions and engagement through social media