welcome yeah thank you very much I I have to warn you because you know this this is a workshop this is not a talk shop it's a workshop and now comes the work there will be some work yeah so it's not lecturing only so now you need your devices laptops and such that would be good um not right now but sometime in I talk because I'm a professor have a disease I always talk blah blah blah but see I put it nicely your short words can then expand that's that's me I'm sorry for that but there will be a moment in time when it's get going to work the workshop will be work yeah but don't worry it's going to be all easy peasy for you because you're really good so yeah I'm talking about codesign I will also talk about study counseling but embedded in in this uh in this uh little uh Workshop time now codesign yeah well first of all design design principles for microlearning I already talked about what microlearning is and how it is particular in the big and in a nutshell we have to shift our Focus away from this traditional way of thinking okay what is the content how do I structure perod over a long time span and so on but really shift towards questions activating the students designing for micro moments of learning specific units of learning that are small and packaged uh where people really experience something that is motivating and of course uh the agile in microcasa then also extends to the instructional design yeah namely that it's not just designing with all the tools that are available to us and the tools that we know best but really the tools that work best and the tools that are most let's say uh sought after by the students themselves yeah so I don't know if you know but uh if you know someone who is a home improvement person and who has a laugh which is a a tool where you can cut wood you put the wood in and then it cuts round pieces right because it pting and then you cut it so this person every every table is has is round because he uses the tool so much because he bought it and then it's expensive so he use one tool and uses it all the time if it's ugly or beautiful you know no one asking anymore and that's a bit of a danger that our tools are guiding a lot what we're doing rather than thinking okay what is the what is the tool that we really need or why do we uh use the tool so we have to be um a little bit careful ful and thinking about why do we use which tool and that will help us to walk through the jungle also of AI tools that are just amazing and that's the one thing and the other thing is this datadriven idea of use to a tool use seeing okay what really works with the students what do they really like what is most effective and then let's use more of that okay so that's a little bit the idea but I'm talking about codesign why codesign why making things so complicated so codesign first of all is the idea of of involving all the stakeholders in the process of design has been done also with furniture and whatnot but now with instruction design it's very interesting to think okay um let's include the teachers educational professionals uh technological people to come together and design something yeah to to really sit on a round table and design something together why well first of all it's necessary if you want to uh design technology enhanced learning environments it's better to have a computer specialist on board and it's of course better to have an educational technologist and instructional designer on board and it's also interesting to have experts in the domain and to have experts in in actually teaching and and of course maybe also the recipients the students and ask them as well what do you like and so on um and this is very important because it increases acceptance and engagement into the courses a lot problem in technology enhanced learning was that these fancy schmancy technological environments were Landing like a eupo in institutions in pedagogical institutions and he was like oh wow this is new this is fantastic and great but after sometime it got boring and the teachers started using it not as it was intended to be and then they withered away so it was not really sustainable and codesign is one answer to that problem theide idea is that if you're designing it really together in a community then the community is more likely to continue in using it that's the idea because it's a waste of money and time to design something really great but then nobody uses it as it's intended to be and codesign is trying to counter that yeah so Cod design is really um worth it it's also necessary it's combining these different uh uh capacities uh bringing them together on one table but of course there's a bit of a misunderstanding with codesign that it's very basic Democratic that ah now we putting everyone's opinion together and then the Perfect Design comes out it's not really like it is it's actually a highly facilitated process highly structured process as well and the way we we structured that process in the past in the precursor um uh uh project competency was with the visual language why well the reason was was we had before competence we had lots of times uh projects in which computer scientists and educational people were working together now that's kind of the default codesign group uh in the work that I'm doing and now what happened was that the educational people like me were always telling these rich stories about yeah then the Learners are reflecting here and then this magic happens and then this and so on and then we'd have a discussion and then they're going to learn some more here and have this task and so and the computer scien she says I just need to know where the button goes tell me right or left tell me which color is so very concrete very specific so this visual this graphic language that we develop is both very rich on one hand but on the other other hand it's also very disambiguated it's very concrete and very specific you need to put it here or there there's no in between there's no uh fuzzy thing here in between and it's very simple really that's the that's the beauty of it and that was the main goal that it can be understood in five minutes and there are different social levels there are activities so the teacher does an action the students does an action and so on and then there are learning objects and then there's feedback giving in tools and you just place them along um and then there is something special that is an emerging learning object I'm going to tell you in a minute so how this looks like is for instance the teacher action provides what a learning object can be a video can be a book can be whatever learning material then the teacher provides a test and so on and so forth and the student looks at the learning material the learning object the student takes the test all L light out with with errors and so on and so forth the emerging learning object is special because it's the thing that the students produce themselves learner artifacts that was a bit special and a bit you know fancy in that sense yeah uh it's the things that emerge during the learning process itself so we we did this and we used this to design muks and this is a classic moo uh kind of a exm design where the uh uh videos are provided the quizzes are provided and then feedback is given and so on and so forth very straightforward and we did this with our colleagues in South East Asia in Malaysia Philippines Indonesia and we went around we mostly did it pen in paper yeah but we also did it uh with Peter right there we did it digitally very Advanced yeah so but but uh it was very straightforward so the Simplicity was the number one Criterion right and we then transferred it to make it look nicer and we can uh see and prove that this language could describe muks of different types from C moo which was a moo that was building heavily on emerging learning objects to exms H very straightforward quizzes learning material and so on yeah so it shows it can describe all kinds of moves and of course what I want to do now is uh from going from this Cod graph language to a microc course cigraph language yeah cigraph to that is what trying to develop now and what we're trying to test out with you so let's see so codra for microc courses is a little bit different the focus is Shifting as I said shifting from um yeah uh from this the social layers and these Community Learning more to personalized individualized moments of learning and centering on assessment and feedback activating the students small bits and pieces tests are Cent Cal in addition to any other flash card and uh uh demonstration videos of sorts to be used uh to branch and personalize The Learning Experience and different from uh the movs where the teacher is carrying still quite some heavy load it should be highly automatized the system is is basically uh arranging for most of the let's say activities on the on the instructional side so this is how it looks like again super simple deemphasizing the social levels on the one axis there is the microc course system that arranges the learning environment or the learning experience and on the other side on the other axis is the learner the arrows yeah one the activities from the learner one the activity from learning system can be any activity you can just write uh a above it what is the activity yeah but it's typically like from the learner side a reading or looking at or things like that yeah or writing something or making a test or whatever and from The Learning System side it's more things like providing or yeah um pointing to and and so on and so forth yeah so there is there's still these typical t Ing and learning activities and there is assessment and then typically aligned with the assessment then also the feedback so this is what you will be working with yeah this is the canvas you just take the learning objects you put them on the canvas you say who is providing them what who is doing what with them and then you kind of build a sequence of activities throughout time yeah so this is how it could be looking like just an example I'm hoping this is not the only microc course design that could be created with it but I would be asking you to get your engines running and think about your own microc course experiences if you've worked I don't know with do lingo or bubble or any kind of app like that to learn a language or um yeah to learn something and maybe you or your own course if you're giving a course or if you experience any kind of course trying to translate it into a microlearning experience how would that look like what would happen first and then second and so on and so forth yeah so here it's very simple everything starts with a test because tests are important test tell the Learners can I go on or can I jump over something so here if the preest is uh successfully accomplished then you may not even need to look at the first uh learning material because you already know it that's what the Test shows so you can jump over things that's the beauty of microcredentials you you basically you're being certified for what you know not for what you are learning but for what you know no what you have learned so so then you if you if you don't make the test okay look at the material that's where you find the information you make another test and with this other test you get to the next level and the same story goes on so this is a very simple structure and then in the end it's a final test and you get your certificate very simple structure for microc course but but but but but I'm hoping it's not the only structure I would like to know whether you can be creative and move things around so that's where you need your laptop and such use this and this is the task so now you have to work you have to be active please get your laptops out and um you can either do the QR code but maybe with your laptop it's difficult the tiny URL is also working yeah so if you type uh the tiny url.com and then the magic stmu 9rk into your laptop you can also now come to uh the template to use this um uh MC codra language then then you have to download that template don't work on that template itself but download it locally because if you work on it itself then everyone sees it immed and and and no one else can work on it so don't work on it don't change it just immediately download it that would be important otherwise it's shared and we only creating one if you don't have a laptop maybe find someone who has because it pro and you work together on it that's no problem at all because it might be a bit difficult on a mobile phone you can try why not if you have uh more delicate fingers than I have then uh then you can maybe also work it on a on a mobile phone but but laptop would be better and it's no problem to work on it together yeah if you have two three four people no problem I'm not counting so then in this template there are multiple slides and there are also multiple links these other links that you see here are also there so you don't need to type them in you can just start from there yeah but again first of all download the template don't work on it itself because then everyone would see okay so okay I see working on this that's great if you manage to download now really work on a template yourself or in a small group and just some design uh tips let's say make good use of Assessments yeah make make questions an important part of the experience I mean you're free to do this as you wish but I would suggest to also include questions this assessment block don't forget about it maybe you can think about a learning environment that is mainly based on questions that is only having questions those exist as well but you can you know you you can also be free and think about your own learning environments and trying to model it with that language and then see where they can be done micro consider different formats yeah flashcards tips sent to the learner through push notification any any of those things that I and and then we can go to the next steps yeah it's it's a tall order I understand but it's you're not getting an award for it afterwards or maybe you do it depends but you it's psychologically safe you're it's all Anonymous and it's all good it is it is a bit difficult yeah but maybe be inspired about your own learning environments the own teaching that you're doing if you would translate it how would it look like just the practice of using graphical languages in the first place and five more minutes bye but I'm changing the slide now because you should not copy that one h spe is what what is that okay okay okay okay time one more minute good things come fast good ideas okay okay let's let's shift into the next task I okay so the next task is you can see it here is to save and upload the design and that is now the next link that is also in this slide so you don't need to type this you can if you like you can type it but it's also within the template that you have downloaded so you can just click that link and then you find a Google drive space in which you can upload now your designs so that we can have a look at it anonymously to uh to see what you have created okay and you know what I'm I'm just going to show you the first one just for an impression so here's the first one so [Laughter] far and so this is this is a sequence of activities I'm trying to interpret it now see if the language works so the the the system provides a video huh learning object that's a video then the students watches it but then it's being tested on the video then there's another video guided then to the next video testing video testing and I'm sharing I was sharing the screen I shared the screen sharing it again okay all right so so there is a line of a sequence of videos and tests right very classic yeah one thing after the other very classic and an intermediate test I'm trying to see that what is that what does it say in the at the end of the line affirmative a summative yeah that's a summative test so have you have you understood all of the the the first sequence and then it goes up to the next sequence and so on and so forth so it's it's let's say very straightforward but it works it has shown that it works so that's that's one way to to do this right yeah let's it's we are just Among Us you know it's we we can work on this of course it's it doesn't have to be perfect for our purposes now just to see what is the core idea yeah no no worries uh there let me see some whether other ideas have been shared H where do I have to go here where's my cursor ah there's another one let's see here it is I actually I actually have to move a little bit because I I cannot really see it otherwise this is rockar okay so here we have the story and the of photography and then the quiz is being taken and then the next level the use of the camera and then a practical activity as a test are very good so it's not just uh Q&A but but U but also practical activity can be the assessment here and then post production and then is then the assessment is is projects very nice okay there one more one more we we're looking at one more okay also similar fashion these levels you're really inspired by by the example which okay no problem but we need to learn more whether there are more ideas more branching back and forth multiple branching iterations rotations that would be interesting to learn okay so we have these different levels again Prest and then uh test at the end and then this level leveling up across the this is exactly what we'll be looking at now in our example course so I'm moving on with the presentation yeah it shows again yeah so wait a second there's one more step that you have to do because we're so interested and this is not only me telling you something but we want to learn from you and that's why I would kindly ask you to fill out the survey how you felt about this experience right now and that's the that's another link the usability survey how did you feel now about using the language with this very very bad introduction of course now that I gave just like so but maybe you can could already use it like like some of these example show so that's why I would like to know please fill out please fill out this survey that's the tiny URL MPD 7 N5 TV and you also have it in your template just very quickly maximum five minutes and then then uh it can be without the zero I believe I don't it just has to be unique actually so yeah it can yeah with the zero then with the zero yeah yeah okay are you born on the same day do you have the same [Laughter] mother have you found the survey anyone needs help to find the survey are you on the survey okay great to see all these wonderful designs very good I can see some already have finished the survey it okay so so this was certainly not as easy as I promised it to be it's actually the difficult task now comes the simpler task it's like um um yeah taking the Second Step before the first one but for reason to get more creative ideas because the second task now is to actually experience what could be a microc course and we going to experience a microc course that actually has exactly that structure yeah so so very straightforward yeah um and that microc course will be on study coordination um but before I'm going to tell you a little bit about um about how we went about it because that might be also helpful not yet using AI tools I have to admit but at the end you will also need to transfer whatever you've created with the it tools to then some management some learner management system and so on and that does mean that other design tools are not necessary anymore so this is more now the manual labor uh that that still the instructional designer has to do and and because there are so many systems we had to make a select we had to make a choice and we thought okay we use Moodle because it's openly available and we use articulated but why do we use two systems well the one thing is a learning management system and the other thing is a design tool for for courses and it's a bit unfortunate uh that that um we had to use both but Moodle is is good for what it does it's open I love it but it's not um so attractive anymore yeah for students that are used to multimedia messages and such it's becomes important to also have a nice design and articulate is helping with that and it can be integrated and easily transferred so that's why we're using those to there are others I'm not now here to advertise for any of the systems even though Moodle is for free so there's no money in that but articulate we also use the free version like a demo version at some point that also needed to purchase be purchased but yeah that is then also a question what tool to use here again this is this is a a to some extent also political decision but we just wanted to show you like what is possible or what is the what is the latest thing or what is somewhat recommendable yeah so so yes learning management system authoring tool these are the differences uh this is how we went along it yeah we we looked at what is it what are the course units what's the structure what would be actually the content uh then creating a mockup course prototype to then be able to discuss it in terms of a codesign process and then to actually do the course design um to to have the Learning Materials really spelled out and have scripts ready um and and create the course materials so again what is Moodle yeah I already said it it's free I'm not going deeply into Moodle first of all because I believe most of you already know it don't you and uh second uh there are really ample and this is the nice thing about it also there's really lots of material online to uh to learn about Moodle and to answer any questions that might arise if you're using Moodle now but it has this this uh easy to use interface it's really compatible um and you know today if I would uh advise a university what LMS to go for I would still consider Moodle very much because it's free and because because it's open it can be designed further and so on and so forth um it's still a good choice for public institutions I think um then articulate uh that's yeah I said it's a bit of a different story design tool that has quite some uh intuitive um user interfaces and and can be also learned easily by using it uh has multimedia um learning content which is important you always have to think about copyrights and then articulate also helps you with that uh and has some customizable uh U templates and such but is then less customizable than some other e-learning tools and there are also Alternatives and and uh higher versions of articulate as well but but again we're using what was available to us and this is how it looks like for instance if you create a design if I create a quiz of sorts you can choose uh the different answer option you can even choose the emotional feedback yeah so so what the learner sees then in the end it looks like this so there is the teacher asking a question and the face can be also made angry or happy depending on whether the answer is correct so that's kind of a nice feature because we know that that online learning works just like the charm except maybe that there is a bit of an emotional void and so then these are ways to also uh uh provide an emotional context yeah with faces because because that's how humans work yeah so this is how it looks like like a simple quiz and um the nice thing is you can then export the course this is what we did also um and Export it on a cloud service like Google cloud or or any such Services uh also into Moodle of course yeah that's that's the whole idea uh but it doesn't have user management yeah that's what you need the LMS for anyway just to get an impression of the microc course you have some more links on the template that you downloaded that are now useful you can also type in the URL that you see here but there are some more links in the template that you used before if you go to the last slide I believe I think I have a uh a secret team member uh in the chat uh of the WebEx uh for the online Learners or for everyone who joining WebEx here the the the online meeting who also providing the links to start the course thank you Marcus back home in Germany where it's now I don't know six o'clock or something in the morning so thanks for helping us out here good yeah so what you need to do is you need to start the course it then unfolds or it starts automatically that's the nice thing about it it should be right away way accessible um and all you need to do is you need to engage in the course uh as this formal description already uh told you it's starting then with quiz quizzes and such which then allows you to go on or which suggests to you to actually look at the course material so if you brought headsets headphones that would be coming in handy now if you also want to watch some of the videos that are presented here this is some on some level just to experiment with how it feels and I'm hoping that the um that the WiFi is strong enough and and the server it is on is also strong enough because videos are of course like always large packages so maybe give it some time but it's also for you to try out how it feels how it feels like to take a quiz and then go on to learning to then take a quiz to then be suggested to move on however what we did is not to install like hard bord hard limits if you do not make the course you would still be able to go on but you are suggested to then look at the material again and if you are making the test you don't have to go on you can still look back at the actual course material yeah it's just suggest that you to go on this can be this is also a question how hard uh you make this how restricted you make this whether you say okay if you do not make the test then you cannot go on if or if if you make the test then you cannot see the old material that is a little bit up to the designer I would typically be a little bit more open here because um otherwise it's just very very much very guided or overly over scripted in a way yeah so that's all to it There's the link you have on your slide and then just start the course read through it engage in it automatically let's say 15 minutes again just to get an experience of the course it's about study coordination competencies that a study coordinator needs to have um and this is of course just a snippet it's not the full course yet but just for you to try out and then I would also like to have a little bit of feedback from you to um to learn about how you thought about that yes and again thanks to Marcus helping us remotely from Germany because you know professors don't know how to tie their shoes yeah does it work yeah you have a specific one then it takes the text it goes maybe it's true think you don't like e the web version seems to be working for everyone I believe nobody had to download it you can still download it Be Our Guest but it seemed to have been working for everyone yeah I [Laughter] yeah tell you that that works nicely now on the mobile phone that's Thea of it everyone oh yeah so that was that was that that was the micro course just to give you an impression again I do not want to give you the impression that that's the only way microlearning can happen yeah think outside the box is very important here uh I know lots of um microlearning apps that are really building heavily on on quizzing qu quizzing only yeah I'm learning um I'm learning uh languages we do lingual they're only asking questions rather than making a presentation about grammar or words yeah that's how I learned apaka and and so uh yeah good so now I I again ask your help you had an impression how that went with the microc course we again would like to capture that impression and I would kindly ask you to fill out the survey it's only again like five minutes it's the next link it's here written on the slide but it's also again in your template so if you would kindly give us an impression of now how you found what you thought about this microc course yeah how engaging is it or how whatever please um please fill out this survey and then we come back together and discuss and marus says provided the link to the survey also WebEx in the chat so y 100% already is using AI [Laughter] techology second so is this sign M ches potential this is [Music] spee is I promised you a workshop and it's actually a workshop you actually have to work all for free so sorry but me talking all the time you wouldn't like either so they get scientifically yeah yeah yeah that's also the idea of the study coordinate or coordinator course that basically it's not ready yet this is just a snippet not everything yet but then when it gets when it's complete that you can complete it and then you get the certificate yeah this is just to to get a feeling for it how it could be and maybe then you get also understanding how it couldn't be better yeah that would be even more interesting um yeah so this this stays like this at least for some time uh so you can yeah it's it's it's available we put it out there yeah so yes for now for this purpose we have uh now shifted the the plan the long-term plan is to use both Moodle and articulate now we have quickly changed that and put away Moodle because for Moodle what Moodle does what Moodle provides for this purpose is user management but that would mean you need to register you know and we wanted to just for this purpose here we wanted to just to for you to get a feeling yeah and it's Anonymous and it's not like but then for actually getting a certificate then we would really know we need to know that it's you and so on and so forth yeah and then we need it uh to to place it in a learning management system now it's on Google cloud and there it also unfolds just by clicking on it as you see quite quite nicely better we expected if because it can it could hold multiple users so that was good and and again uh Terry Maki for for for helping us with the survey this is really helping us to better understand this design and uh adjust it it also helps a student of ours a master student to work on this yeah Marcus who is online helping us so so so that is that is um very important for us to to understand your perspective yeah but I think um we can also come to the last point if I'm not mistaken I'm looking to Isabelle whether she gets ready not yet okay okay anyway the the the last Point again thank you for filling out the survey continue filling out the survey if you if you're not ready yet that's fine the last point now is to say let's talk a bit let's discuss I will be running around with a microphone and scaring you put the microphone in your face like so and then I'm asking your questions and so on don't be scared you no what it's very private here because now we want to discuss a little bit what what are now challenges for design what do you think is difficult and what would be potential about the things that you've heard so far like the the amazing AI tools now this particular uh graphical language um the articulate uh designed uh microc course what what would keep you what would be a hurdle to do that for yourself yeah from now this first impression only what do you think would be reasons why it would be worth doing it what is the potential of this yeah from what you heard what speaks to you from what you've heard what would you say oh this is still difficult so that would be the question and I have a a slide prepared and this is the last slide and you can and you can um also use this last link on on the template which brings you to to here can you see it on on WebEx as well yes good great because this is the same slide just in Google so that we can fill it out together if you don't want me to talk to you or if you don't want to raise your voice you can also just put it in here no problem no problem but we can also discuss a little bit use our human voice and I will come to you and I will ask Isabelle then to to type it in if she's on are you ready to go one more okay no problem no problem going for help okay all right so please then show me your arms and if you don't show me your arms I will come to you anyway thank you very much better micro one of the ches of this relates I I was sh to you extensions that you can have in your browser to uh solve automatically the quizzes and then but now we think of all ways ofing the and I'm thinking in your language for example there is only one type of activity only one type of I probably for a teacher be helpful because the question right now how are we going to access our student language more expressive or poph can be more expressive is a yes and potential however is that it does describe working scenarios I mean we need we need more alternative and and and anything that help us think beond of course that it's not just the symbols but you can you can add and you should add text to you can then not only this is a learning object can be a video so so and the same with the activity that's where the flexibility comes in but maybe it's not enough or it doesn't represent the rich so we have to think about we need addition additional of graphic language intentionally because there is something called affordance of a tool and here we wanted to have the affordance to think about lots of assessment as a as a core a principle or core function to arrive at micro redemptions but interesting say okay let's have more and then we can play with colors we can play with forms to say learning objects can multiple things and maybe multiple or more specific to micro course things [Music] yes okay uh looking at the test there's no conne class you can see say hi hello so how do you make connection with your we times we believe that um a tool being out there the Environ being out there is enough and we don't need to address the only thing the learn is the Le and then they're in there and then it's all automatized and and sometimes that it's not enough so the nice thing about this highly automatized environment is that it's SCS that it doesn't at some point it doesn't matter if it's 10 100 or 1,000 people and that's a very very very attractive idea because you know as a teacher you always have you have lots of work with students ultimately unfortunately it's always the most work 80% of the work is cost by 10% of the students so so it's interesting to think about how you can capture that and it's worthwhile to actively design for for the pi wor now would say there's Ani tool are very strong toed and to build checks we used to build them and it took us years to build one because we had to teach them with discourse data with existing discourse data that was analyzed manually by multiple cers and then he fed it into the machine and then maybe something can and now you can you do then you have large language models and the it's amazing we build one now even know a few which we used to years on before and it's much better so so there is also something in there and of course the hope would be that interaction would of the realtion of would become more qual more valuable so I'm not saying take out but maybe really focus on on what you think is important in the emotional approach to the student that would be of course the choice not to hide away and say oh I'm not need it anymore because you Tak yourself out of thank you very much I see that also there is there are quite some some um things written on the screen on this shared um slide limited connections are challenging ensure that the assessment are complete by students yes a huge huge issue there's a tool for that there's a tool for che that could mean that in the future and that's where we then need our resources in the future the oral examination comes back into fashion and the live Workshop comes back into fashion and it's really better understood why that is important because it's really us work the sharing of the moment is is then most valuable doesn't mean that it will happen in the future that's that's then limited content in cont exploration the designer prior ental cont to avoid too much information yeah that is also something I'm concerned then the thing that micro learning is basically covering and not micro learning but it's also true that the micro learning content is is valuable in itself and if you can learn it like so then then uh it's actually the more fair option for the Learners so for instance when I was studying I had this social uh science data analysis package SPSS that I had to learn to to do research and the university said oh no that's not we're not teaching software which is of course now unimaginable because it's so ENT and and that shows that you cannot deny the the most Central draftsmanship in also academ Academia so so it becomes necessary but there is of course still challenge to think about the larger learnings engagement with Learners the design and have to consider virtual interaction with Learners engage well language assessment particular writing the writing for example is then again but let's look at the potentials as well by the pr of local and international students oh yes oh yes the world is becoming a smaller place if we do not painer for exactly uh the the micro competencies using respective tools and good for working adults to gain more knowledge for career development uh automate course creation from diagrams yes exactly that is then what we're thinking about right now it's still all manual but having such a visual language that can be of course translated and can be made Dynamic so maybe at the end and in a former project we have already done this then the language can be automatically translated into a running learning environment that is of course like the end goal so to speak and well another end goal is to say okay I can also see the learning process in the language while it's happening that that is very then flexibility ining microcredentials yes support for bu individuals to upskill and res skill themselves yes automatized systems allows Learners to learn on their own their own pace without having to wait for ucat to be present from time to time so there's no lagging learning yes that is the learning at the bus stop you you do not always have time uh to learn something uh you don't have time to call your friends and say hey let's learn together or to say oh now I need to run to the teacher no you need to now you need it quick for specific purposes that's where M comes play Then learning EAS motiv engag reach out to students Geographic remote challenge environments to further their studies and yes this is something that is of course extremely rewarding in itself and that was what drove us in the precursor uh project competency and what is driving us now as well to be able to reach out not only to the elite of academics but also to then uh under served under privileged communities right so now I'm looking at the time 10 minutes okay I'm gonna I have another slide um to to work on oopsie no that's not the one I wanted to show you we are still here but the question now now here is so we talked about challenges and potentials that's an important thing to discuss the good and the bad that's how our mind works yeah what is what is a danger and what is what is maybe a reward but now we needed to be talking about the sign principles so what are the sign principles we were talking about some we were now talking about challenges and potentials how how would you say how would you think what would you think is important in designing mices what are principles of this is also a difficult question at the end comes the most difficult question what would be a design principle that that you could think of for micro process throughout my talk I have mentioned the few maybe it's also good to revisit them so so this is a difficult question what would be an important principle that you can think of what is a principle for your own teaching let's say or for your own learning that is that that that guides your the way you design your teaching say it's most important to have C CL ity in the way you present things do you say it's most my principle is to interact with the students my principle is to say Okay I I am giving hard tasks or on the contrary I'm giving easy task so everyone's happy or my principle is the yeah emotional well-being so what what would be important you think for when you go about designing a microc course Clarity on the assessment they much better than the assessment I gave you right now one yes clear learning objectives very good happens by itself interactive and engagement wonderful this works by itself it's the Ghost in the Shell so this is not AI this is human this is social Computing yeah yeah yeah awesome IDE to the point yes and if I may ask the Au you can also use the examples I would be most interested to hear about L my and how to keep the motivation up Clarity on the assessment very good whoever is writing here I'm having you very good arcs arcs attention yes yes relevance confidence and satisfaction satisfaction attention relevance confidence and satisfaction it's a large debate what about motivation can you actually facilitate motivation isn't that something that the Learners bring to the table do you as a teacher have to have to work for motivation and so on but in the end I would think that it's better to think about the motivation when you're designing it to nothing so at least a bad design can destroy motivation that's the least yeah and then of course you have to be interested in what is the intrinsic motivation of the students and address that that is that is what you can do about motivation and if the students are still not motivated you also have to step back a little bit and not get frustrated because that's just then how it is you don't have to be fully responsible for every bit of motivation that people have but you can assign for cre between teach student yeah this was of course a interesting experience in the competency project that people can nicely create also learning artifacts these emerging learning objects and maybe that is also something to think uh for micro for micro learning as well you were taking it out because it typically goes Beyond a very short learning nugget that's why we were taking out but you know if we see this is BEC coming relevant and becoming something that is most attractive then nothing stopping us from from taking it Ure the mic is met with the learning out yes this magic very simple sentence what you test is what you can that is even more true for micr credentials I of course War way such G The Who yes this is exactly exactly the core I that how do you design interesting interaction yeah these these little tools make a large difference who is making a difference or audience response systems that is is making a difference in how you interact and interaction can be designed as a game as well right so you know I'm I'm German and I cannot deny it that means I'm I'm punctual Al so they say it's actually not true but uh but but U now it is I like to end on time I I thank you very very much um uh it has been most productive to hear your voices well not not by not as I promised you to threatened you to to speak through your mouth but by the shared uh representation which which FS It Out by itself so thanks to all the authors um and with that I I say ter Maki for your participation and and what we cannot deliver online is lunch very sorry for that but but for those who are present I believe uh that's what we're going to do now thank you very much for your attention thank you very [Applause] much oh it's it's it remains online it's open yeah at least for 30 days yeah but the sooner the better so