but animal call sentient animals the kettle and yeah all animal uh that usually slaughtering uh Slaughter is sanal it's mean animala they have um feeling they are could couldn't bear stress they could feel the stress so so when you take one uh Kettle for example from The Colony all of them usually will um mow or they will scream and then that's the sign of the stress of the animal when you slaughtering animal in front of other animal they will feel stress if they are uh sensing or or they are breathing the blood of this slauter animal they will be stressed because they can sense the cortisol hormone from the blood of the animal and stress is not good for uh animal first it will uh make animal difficult to be handle second one uh those animal will produce low quality of meat as you know we have two kind of stress parameter on Mid uh products TFT which is um usually with high ph and the color of the mid will be darkens and the PS e or pale soft exoda it's mean the mid will be softer it will slimy and the color will not bright color but yeah um putat Pat in English maybe pale color so that's why we have two parameters for the BET quality of mths um as a result of the incorrect handling so usually we use uh we cannot use stick or you cannot use electricity whether in low um in L voltage yeah it's better you use kind of um Sula or in Indonesia or or you can use like a nylon I will show the video later and that's plastic nylon is just to make the animal uh easy to be handled or you can uh yeah make a scare of them we can say but not directly or physically um yeah sticking to their uh body okay so we need standard for animal handling mean you need to um maintain the design of the facilities how long your uh gangway you know Kang we Kang is uh yeah we can say Kang gang way way for the animal to go to another place which is they can only move forward not take word and then we we we can use taller tools some animals uh easy to be handled using that but it's some some sometime not effective also and this transportation we need to be very careful how we can make in Indonesia we never or we rarely talk about this transportation we just know we have truck and then we put as many cattle as we can we never uh think in which season we need to transport the animal or how high the truck should be or how the degree of the uh yeah of of the loading unloading uh what is it yeah loading and your loading yard and also we never um know which kind of animal uh cannot be transport for example we cannot transport the um and also when they are sick we cannot transport uh it or after we take the wool of the uh lamb so we cannot uh transport them why because there are some reason uh when sick animal transported then usually it's like the quote if one bucket of Apple you have one apple bus other will will be contaminated so the same like uh in this Transportation model you have one uh sick animal or with disease then one of the colony would be also uh sick or have a disease the transportation also as we know we need to use it uh in fit lots usually in Abid also to place the an animal in right position uh unloading with the minimum stress and also easier to handle the animal injury so the vehicle need to be construct properly I will show directly the video here you can see uh we can see I mean one truck we have a gangway here how high this one usually for Kettle it's should not less than 1.3 M and the degree of this um of this way it should be less than 29 or less than 30° and the differ between two uh level and one level of truck will be different we need space here usually in packaging we have a head space same as here I hope you can see my here we need space also like head space because if you don't have that space animal cannot breathe easily also you need to give some Tam in Java orami Indonesia here or Haze in English so to make the animal easy to move I mean will not sleep uh sleep I mean not sleep Toria slap I mean yeah and [Music] then between this uh lantti or this floor you need at least 6 cm in between of uh any kind of woods or if you use galvalum but uh more than that will be uh dangerous for you animals okay so uh we need to see the YouTube I think will will make you easier to understand what what I'm talking about okay wait please anyone to to tell me if you cannot hear the voice from the video okay wait h [Music] okay sorry can you hear the voice from video uh you haven't shown the we're still on the okay okay wait [Music] share optimize share some how about now yes sir we can see this video shows good and better practices to improve sheep transport good transport begins with good prep good sir okay great upon arrival at Farm drivers fill in the driver checklist adjust the truck ramp to the Loading key to avoid gaps and reduce the slope as much as possible floors and ramps should have a non-slip surface ramps should be wide enough for sheep to walk together railings on ramps should be high enough so sheep cannot jump over them them put bedding in the vehicle in case of cold weather use straw and remove any wet bedding when hot wet sand shavings or sawdust help to keep the Sheep cool sheep must have enough space to all lie down or stand inside the vehicle give unshorn sheep and Lambs with a thick fleece more space ensure at least 15 cm of space above the head of the sheep 30 cm is even better increase space for sheep with horns or in full wool and in warm weather take Extra Care in multi-level trucks never transport injured sick or blind animals do not transport very young Lambs highly pregnant Hughes or sheep just Shor move and load the Sheep gently and and in a group avoid scaring the Sheep by shouting sudden noises or movements move sheep from dark to light zones sheep must not be lifted by the head ears horns neck tail legs or wool never Punch or kick sheep nylon flags plastic ribbons or bags can be waved to encourage movement be careful when driving Drive smoothly change gears and accelerate gently anticipate traffic maintain constant speed take curves carefully especially when Crossing roundabouts avoid sudden and hard braking use whenever possible highways respect the specific driving and resting time for sheep in inside temperature should always be between 5 and 30° ensure adequate ventilation removing Heat by opening the lateral flaps if available start the ventilation system when stopping automatic ventilation systems are mandatory for Journeys more than 8 hours they must be capable of operating for more than 4 hours in hot weather reduce the density of sheep on the truck by 30% or or delay the journey until nighttime beware high humidity makes it more difficult to bear hot temperatures check out the temperature humidity table Park the vehicle in a shady area it allows Breeze to blow across the trailer the loading ramp should be open place the truck far from other vehicles for animal transport in cold weather preheat the vehicle provide extra feed and bedding and keep sheep as dry as possible prevent freezing of drinkers by adding glycerin or glucose to the water park the trailer in a protected area and add extra weatherboards what must be observed during transport stops and upon arrival are the Sheep calm and quiet they should lie down and not cry and or fight are sheep coughing any eye and nasal discharge are sheep panting shivering when hot sheep will use all the space when cold animals are huddling are all sheep fit for further transport at every stop check the vehicle and the sheep and record findings unload gently if a sheep is unfit at arrival it must be checked by a vet immediately report the number number of sheep injured or dead after unloading the truck has to be cleaned and disinfected for more details and tips on how to ensure the welfare of sheep during TR okay I hope um all of you can understand the video that I've been shown to you uh let's talk then uh I will guide the discussion I just want to know uh from the video what you can understand what will what the new information that you never know related to this transportation is it okay I hope this is okay I will start from Akira Zari are you there Akira yes sir okay Akira from the video what can simple one or or uh that you can uh squeeze or you can have from the video I okay we can assume that uh Animal Welfare is very important due to their quality and we have to uh realize that uh animal transport uh animal condition when it is transport is very important okay uh what new information that you never know related to this video compared to Indonesian Transportation uh I I just know that uh A TRU uh Tru of the transport is must available with uh the cooling fan okay really I I saw in Indonesia uh they they just use open truck and Stage the livestock there without any cover or cooling fan okay how many degrees in your opinion Akira uh the temperature which will make the animal feel Comfort uh between 5 and 30 deg cius and five until 30° really five degre is like your cool cast your refrigerator is 5 degrees but I I think in Indonesia maybe around 20 to 30 in normal temperature for the best for animal lifestock here is tropical so okay how many in tropical just guess wrong is okay 25 29 great okay that is the ambient temperature that we have because we are in tropical of course uh it will be different from the subtropical or or and one question akir yes sir better you have I mean of course we need the Comfort one 25 but if I'm asking you whether you choose for your animal when you transport it um decrease the animal H sorry decrease the temperature while transporting for example 5° uh Celsius or you choose increase the temperature both is um abnormal condition but I just want want you to choose whether you choose high temperature for your animal or low temperature for your animal which make your animal more stressed which make my animal feel stressed yeah more stress in tropical country uh low temperature low temperature okay that's almost close uh actually whether in tropical or in subtropical it's just because I'm um reading earlier uh 5° lower is better rather than 5 Dees upper because 5 degrees Upper from the ambient temperature will make the animal stress and fatal sometime it will kill the animal increasing 5 Dee uh of your body temperature for example it will uh make your metabolism uh worse than the low temperature okay uh we we can get the information yeah for from my speech yeah is it okay yes I'm not very fluent in it but let's try to to make it uh understand each other okay thank you Akira you have a good point of view and I will next to Al to you're here okay I'm sorry think it's not okay Alvin are you in pasaran because way okay uh I think I have argument with Akira I think it's in the difference uh in other count that good technology okay Alin sorry I I want to hear you clearly uh but I I think you you you're moving I think you need to stop first and then okay okay okay okay sir I will do it okay uh I think yeah I have a same argument with AA Akira uh that the country in that have a good technology in husband they really concerned about the temperature and of the uh Tru that used to load the animal so uh it's I think it will uh have uh influence for the animals metabolism and then okay and maybe will uh influence influence of the temperature of animal so I think with the some certain humidity and temperature that uh they will feel Comfort the animal not stress so they can be more easily to slaughter than yeah the any okay Alin you you have a good point of view um do you uh saw the video before I want you to inform us what kind of differences uh that you catch from the video which is different from Indonesian Transportation actually I don't see the video because the so uh but I still uh hear from that that they have a good concern about the hum humidity and temperature of the truck so I think it's a good idea that can be applied in Indonesia for maybe uh in the future kind of like that okay humidity uh you you mentioned about humidity uh how important this humidity for your animal while transport uh because I think humidity is actually correlated with the temperature so if you have uh like um L humidity B humidity so it will uh increase uh it will cool it cool down the temperature so I think it will not also comfortable with the uh animals humans also and if you and in the humidity it's uh decrease and the temperature is uh increase so it will also the uh it will also inflence the animals so I think but I don't know how how much the uh humidity percentage that uh good for animals but I think it's may be same as like human so uh the the normal humity I think it will be same the like the ambient temperature like 25 26 27 degre CI kind of like that okay thank you Alin uh that's a good uh answer also for the Kuman or the humidity we need that to maintain the condition inside the transportation for example the smell or the odor of the animal we can decrease that if we have correct humidity I also don't have a exact data yeah but every animal or cattles and poultry and others have different need for the humidity for example our lecture here Mas Galo P Galo has tools name Broiler x uh before uh that can maintain the humidity of the inside the Cates so that's very important for the poultry for the chicken because if the humidity is too low also it will make the chicken painting do painting painting is like M up and you actually the purpose is to cool your body with you move out your hot temperature using your uh mouth that's called painting so that sign also we can it's also directly correlated with this transportation to have a special transportation in uh overseas I mean they have special driver the license is uh special not every person can transport the truck for the kettle because the driver need to check in every how many hours for example four or five hours the animal if the animal painting means uh the temperature high and also the humidity possibly also low so we need to increase that uh uh humidity so special driver is need for the special CLE so we cannot use any kind of drivers in Indonesia you can use bus you can use truck you can use after you transport human you just directly transport the cattle that's very common inia but actually uh that is not standard okay we move to da p yes Siro you can you can hear my voice zaa I can hear your voice sir okay I want you to mention one point that's do you see the do you saw the video yeah I saw the video sir okay I want you to give me one point of view which different from your your friends uh what different method or different thing that you can get from the video different from Indonesian Transportation I guess about the space like space how about the space the capacity for the transportation of the animals got like for my experience when I see some trucks carrying animals like C or sh they they always uh overload to the next so there's noing space between the C okay means every animal in your opinion need special space for them why we need the space daa from the video from before to to put l TR on to put l make okay do you think lat you know right and while transport need different uh space or the same space how do you think I think yes you think same yeah yeah uh actually we need different different treatment while we transporting animals yes they need space but the important space is the I can say like a head space of the truck second one they if they transport for a short uh destination whether they uh they have tight uh space between cattle it's to maintain the animal not make many moving well transport because many moving means the cattle can have a bruise or something but when we uh put the animal on the Lage we need addition space addition this this space for uh animal to rest uh as you know cow for example he need room or or what kind of uh I can say the word is they need rest they need to yeah when when they they rest it will need different space while they are uh PR so we need different space for that and you are very good I mean um yeah while we transport it's better the condition of the animal at the same um direction for example the transportation Cod forward mean you need to maintain the animal also go forward because if not then the animal will DIY will DIY can you imagine usually in Indonesia if we have a UL people want to transport cing to be Slaughter and coming the tar on the seat of the motorcycle and then the driver very fast moving uh the motorcycle we can feel if we are the animal our I is different from the animal the animal eyes is between I mean on the side of their school but we are in front of so can you imagine uh what the good feeling when the driver bring it with the fast condition they will DIY because the range to see each other is like this one different from us yeah so that's why we need to transport animal in a good condition okay I like my promise I need everyone to talk the differences between the transportation in our country and uh in overseas next Aran sakim do you already have yes sir opinion uh I think my opinion is not that different between the four of my friends three uh I think what differs the most is the standard of operation the SOP and I think that the video that you played before was in Europe I think and they have like uh Europe has this high standard in the animals that they need to fulfill so I think that Indonesia hasn't done completely what well in uh in requirements to fulfill that sop especially in high standard mhm uh do you ever see uh a good standard in which district in Indonesia or you never see before also I think that what Akira mentioned is actually is the most common in if I see in Indonesia with open trucks and yeah not good of an environment and lots of dust in the car I think yeah it's not that much okay so uh we need to put Haze and also as you see in the videos uh some kind of scand um what what what the need why we need uh to use that R why we need to use hay or why we need to use hay or send of course the send on the track I think it's more for Comfort to reduce stress on animal okay redu stress yeah and also to help the animals to move around I think okay um yeah it's almost correct we need to put the say or sand first to make comfortable of the animal while they feel the sand they will feel it it is on the crown second one it will um not maintain yeah it will MJ to take care of them from the slippery floor yeah so that's why we need that okay Salwa salasa Salwa do you there are you there Sala Salwa not yet how about SAA are you there yes sir okay Sila could you mention to us what kind of differences another from your friend of of course from the video that you think we need to PR practice it in Indonesia or we need to yeah at least copy it in Indonesia uh I think it was the point of the video where they uh have a stoop over to the truck and they have like this um what do they call it um papan papan between the way for because not only is that uh can cap for the efficiency so not the animal will not run way it's also will provide the Animal Welfare of animal not being uh pushed or um directly um pulled into the truck itself okay good point saah I want to ask you do you ever touch uh Bor or pick before I have not you have not uh let's talk about P we need to to understand that behavior is important while we handling the animal if you are the operator of those pick and then you want to load those P onto your truck what will you do what will you use uh to guide the pick into the pan yes to the fan not to the fan to the truck to the truck yeah uh I think by its tail okay okay because it's a pick of course it will be heavy and you cannot just simply uh pull them or push them into the truck so I feel like uh by using the tail you can just like Snoop it a little bit and then they will move into the direction that you were intended the animal to go okay that's uh I thought Sala already have this knowledge before it's good because uh the point of view of from this discussion we need to know the behavior of the animal if we push those pick by using our hand so until we need some kind of tricks because if we yeah like you the head of the Practical class in Kad and then I use that trick it's very easy to move 150 kg of pig you can imagine pig is very difficult to [Music] move it's easier when controlling the kettle or the lamb especially lamb lamb is very easy so in Australia for example they use Dock dock is very helpful for them to controlling the animal to move forward to uh other directions and that's that's good because train duck they will not hurt the animals but in Indonesia it's it's uncommon but actually we as as I know we can use dog also I mean related to religions for farming it's it okay okay uh let's move to the uh next slide I will stop here where is my okay okay so that's why we need to understand uh the design of the truck so we will have a qualified animal to be transport I have the second video actually and that will be the last of our uh discussion for today of course I have uh 63 uh PPT but basically the point I already tell you you can read it carefully later okay this one is the space like your friend said for Kettle um with the body weight 110 for example theit area almost 1.5 until 1 uh Z I'm sorry 0.4 until 0.7 M Square for ship of course um smaller and for Peak yeah it's it's it's almost same with the CP but we have the standard for that so you can uh use the standard if you make um special truck because sometime Indonesia to buy the standard truck is also uh too expensive better we make by ourself if we are low budget okay and then like my okay this is IND case we put some Haze sometime to adapt with the slippery floor the density uh we need to make it not many space in TR because the animal can be hurt uh from that uh yeah from that position okay I already tell also okay this one let's see the video for well if you can't beat him join them my kids play a lot of s s you haveen been mov into the sometimes they could be a little difficult to peel them away so I found a game they can play as much as they want one it's called adaptive mind it's a learning platform how about now oh good sir okay great see the videos at least you can take some yeah guided the F load guide from meet and livestock Australia has been developed to help you meet your legal obligations under the Australian Animal Welfare standards for the land transport of livestock because it's an offense to load and transport an animal in a way that causes or is likely to cause it unnecessary harm this guide will help you decide if an animal is fit to be loaded for transport by Road or rail to anywhere in Australia there's not a whole lot of Point bringing damaged livestock here because you as El saying goes you know One Bad Apple in a barrel could spoil a whole Barrel you know if a buyers looking a pen of stock and they're seeing a stock that just a substandard you know they're going to make the assumption that there's more than one in that particular lot and they you know walk onto the next pen or that pen will be significantly discounted an animal is not fit to load if it's not strong enough to undertake the journey unable to walk normally and can't bear weight on all legs severely emaciated or visibly dehydrated showing visible signs of severe injury or distress likely to be caused increased pain or distress during transport blind in both eyes or in late pregnancy if an animal is unfit to load your options include treating the animal and then transporting when recovered Consulting a Veterinary surgeon and then transporting only under veteranary advice or humanely destroying the [Music] animal it's the responsibility of the person in charge to ensure that animals are prepared correctly and will cope well with the entire Journey well-prepared stock not travel better a less stressed and Associated Animal Welfare issues are avoided you should plan the journey to include rest stops and inspections and make sure the facilities including yards races loading ramps and vehicles are well constructed and will not injure livestock rest recently mustered livestock prior to loading and segregate animals appropriately this includes keeping horned animals away from non-h horned or keeping mothers with their young once you begin the loading handle livestock quietly and with minimum force the maximum time off water will vary for different species and will need to be adjusted down in hot dry weather and for the pregnant or young for goats and cattle over 6 months old and sheep over 4 months old the maximum time off water is 48 hour hours with a minimum spell period of 36 hours spell time is the period of time that stock must rest with access to food and water when the maximum time off water has been reached the maximum time off water is reduced to between 24 and 28 hours for carbs kids and Lambs or for pregnant or lactating animals followed by a minimum spell period of 12 hours Transporters drivers and agents should always seek information about how long animals have been off feed and water before loading if it's likely that the journey will take more than 24 hours then the DAT and time when animals last had access to water and when they were last inspected must be recorded by the person in charge written information about who to contact in an emergency must also be provided dry feed only such as hay can be offered prior to loading even if water has been withheld whenever food or water is on offer make sure there's enough space for every animal to access it as shy feeders become an issue when space is limited consider giving electrolytes to animals during the preparation period as it may help prevent physical stress during the long journey in the rare event of an accident involving heavy Vehicles carrying livestock livestock assist is a 24-hour National hotline to coordinate emergency responses an important service to minimize harm to both drivers and animals if something does go wrong there's some great uh fit to load guards at the mla's uh put out and you I encourage everybody to look through those and obviously you don't want to be transporting stock that are in The Late Late stages of pregnancy uh you don't want to be transporting stock that are blind in both eyes or crippled but it just makes great economic sense to make sure that we've got the right Animal Welfare [Music] [Music] outcomes okay um from the video we can conclude that special treatment need uh for the animal for example you need to give um electrolytes before transport the animal you need uh special time for animal uh to drink I mean some of them like two days but some of them it's different from uh one animal to other animal the and also you need to placing the animal uh and also you need to separate the [ __ ] one also uh they have calendar usually uh the best time to to transport the animal is nighttime because the temperature is low also uh it's will reduce the stress of the animal so if you cannot transport animal with the truck with the good condition of temperature ambient temperature or the Comfort temperature then you need to transport at the night time that is the better uh choices and also from video we know that um to transport animal especially to other country it's need special uh way or special method for example you need to bring animal from Australia to Indonesia what kind of material you need usually we use wood because wood is better animal uh adapt with wood better than we use Calum for example and then uh how if we use uh the ship I mean ships not ship yeah not I mean Capal also it's need a different method so I hope after this class you see the other video you can learn from the um MLA the Australian um Association for transport uh importing the animal uh they have standard also from other country also is possible and I think for the first uh day of our lecture uh I think it we we will continue to uh next week so we will stop our lecturing today but before that uh I need you to have an attendance QA let me check whether I already possible to access that or not because tomorrow you will have nobl time right what is what do you call nobl time so who already in now only sir only Anin others you you online from your home yes okay great so I will not uh guide you to the gang way to choose one or two or three of course like today theme I hope uh all of you can go or it's it's better you take this uh chance other your go put uh regardless number one number two number three because you are Indonesian you need to have a responsibility to your country so I mean I encourage you to take uh your BL tomorrow and wait uh okay okay we stop here I will see here sensey what six person do we need this because this will be recorded by the system but why not yet change wait wait a second we need to have a percent C okay okay uh uh can you hear me Sheila yes sir okay uh please to fill your attendance QR all of you yeah because this is important from for your for your data 75% you need to attend the class if not then you will not pass the class right one two 3 4 five anyone not yet uh fill the QR already all of you Al Alin why you cannot use your phone uh I think he's only using one device but I already took a picture of his attendant so he can claim uh to the academic okay you can use that right I mean yes I I hope I'm not the technology okay so if everything is okay all Goods we can finish our class yeah Alin you already have your uh QR for the academics yeah okay I assume it is okay everything saah uh we can finish this meeting anyone yes okay thank you for your attendance uh good luck for your CH Sunday tomorrow uh and see you next meeting thank you thank you sir have a nice day sir have a nice day