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Lessons from Jocko Podcast #485

this is Joo podcast number 485 with Carrie Helton and me Joo Willink good evening Carrie good evening so I stumbled across a a document we'll say i we could call it a book and this document is called the Hunbeating Proverb which the title out of the gate caught my attention it's published in 1918 by the Continental Publishing Company up in Canada i believe it was in Toronto was where this company was and it was published in 1918 like I said and it was obviously geared toward warriors in this case the Canadian soldiers who were fighting against the Germans in World War I and the the the primary reason that the Germans were called Huns have you heard the Germans called Huns before yes yeah okay so it's the the actual Huns themselves were an ancient nomadic people that lived in Central Asia the Caucuses in Eastern Europe in the fourth and fifth centur centuries and there's probably one Hun that you there's probably only one Hun that you've heard of and that's a till of the Hun but they're not that associated like okay Eastern Europe and Central Asia and the Caucases that's not Germany so why are we calling the Germans Huns well it's because there was a speech that was given 27th July 1900 uh in Bremer Haven by Wilhelm II and this was as the Germans were German soldiers were going and being sent off to China to put down the Boxer Rebellion this is what he said he said "If you come before the enemy he will be defeated no quarter will be given prisoners will not be taken whoever falls into your hands is forfeited just as a thousand years ago the Huns under their King Attilla made a name for themselves one that even today makes them seem mighty in history and legend so may the name Germany be affirmed by you in such a way in China that no Chinese will ever again dare to look crosseyed at a German." End quote so it's a pretty freaking talk about some rules of engagement getting wild no quarter no prisoners so that's what he's saying they're going to they're going to create a reputation like the Huns had well the Brits heard this now you fast forward to World War I the Brits and eventually the Canadians and eventually the Americans they took that speech and they and they took that name and they ran with it and started calling the Germans Huns as an insult to them and their behavior and so so interestingly the subtitle to this little book is containing many proverbs that point to the destruction of arrogance tyranny villain vice and the monstrous militarism of which Germany has been guilty and there's there's actually I'm not going to we're not going to go through all the proverb proverbs that are in this book but there are there was one there was only one where I thought to myself well that's some straight just anti-German propaganda going here but I'll I'll point it out but that being said let's face it when you talk about arrogance and villain and vice these are things that we can all be sus susceptible to that type of behavior becoming a little bit arrogant becoming uh falling to our vices and so I think there's some some pretty good wisdom in this book for all of us so let's get into it let's get into the hunbeating proverb book and by the way there's the book has no you know normally nowadays if someone's going to put out a book of wisdom you know or or proverbs or whatever they have a preamble and they'll kind of explain you know what they're thinking and where how it came and there's none of that it just goes right into it and that's exactly what So it starts off a brave man is often a desperado that's the first first one we're going with here and to me immediately I thought of this is the person that you're walking down the street someone that has nothing to lose and wants to start a fight with you uh that's not going to be a good move so don't do that next one a crooked stick will have a crooked shadow something to keep in mind who are who are you interacting with i mean obviously they're not referring to sticks here they're talking about people so the crooked stick is going to have a crooked shadow it's going to be hard for that to sh to change next one a curse sticks to no one but the cursor man you got to keep that in check that's like similar to the ones you hear if you're filled with hatred for someone it hurts you more than it hurts them and that's why forgiveness is so important forgiveness is a big you know I got some things I'm I'm kind of uh teeing up right now i might go through it in the muster but the idea of forgiveness not only not only forgiveness of hey I made a mistake and I taken ownership of that mistake well if you take ownership of a mistake that was bad and it caused significant issues and you don't you aren't able to forgive yourself for making that mistake it's going to be problematic same thing with if you have someone that works for you or with you and they make a mistake and they take ownership or whatever you take ownership whatever the case may be but you can't forgive them for what happened it's you you're not going to get through it same thing with relationships like if you're if your kids do something that you didn't want them to do or they shouldn't have done and you can't truly forgive them it's not going to work if you're married and your wife or husband does something that you can't truly forgive them for now listen are there some offenses that are unforgivable i would say yeah there are and if that happens I wouldn't prolong what I believe to be the inevitable right but if you can forgive them and it takes work you know because you got to put your ego in check because normally you can forgive someone but your ego won't you know and then you hold that grudge against them forever and everything's a problem you know it's funny i got some some things that happened with my wife that I big age big age big age like uh so she threw away she threw away I had this I had this pillow this was back and this is like 25 years ago i had a pillow that was like really old because you know when you're a young dude in the Navy you're not spending money on anything so I had this pillow that was so old that it had become flattened and it was sort of it was probably like 4 in thick right but I but I would I would like take it when I was sleeping and like between my legs like so my legs aren't like on each other sweating uh I put it there or whatever just was like a a little like let's face it it was a little bit of a lucky pillow well I came home one day that thing was gone i probably had that pillow for 10 years something like that kind of like this old uh futon you know back in the day you weren't getting a bed there wasn't no mattress uh firm or place that was going to deliver me you're just going to get get a futon from a you know yard sale somewhere uh so I had this pillow she threw it away and I still bring it up yeah we we laugh about it i had a couple uh tank tops you know from and they were old they were like from bars overseas kind of stained with Guinness and whatever just gnarly old but I had a lot of good memories in them and some one day I came home those were gone so now what do I have to do can I hold that grudge for what's it been now 28 years sure I can hold it and we have fun with it but imagine if you couldn't like truly forgive if there's something some offense look I can forgive my wife that she threw away some of my prized possessions which probably had a total accumulated value of like 20 bucks but if you can't overcome that if something happens that's unforgivable it's going to be problematic and and things are going to come up man they're going to come up and so that's with relationships that you have but then also with yourself like if you you're going to make mistakes in life you're going to do things that you shouldn't have done and when that happens you take ownership of them of course but just like I talk about when uh if someone close to you dies like remember don't dwell you have to do the same thing with mistakes that you made remember don't dwell yep i made I made that mistake it was bad here are the consequences here i'm not going to let it happen again but I'm not going to dwell in the past and woe is me and I wish this never would have happened etc is is that what forgiving yourself looks like to you it's it's like just not dwelling yeah i think it's I think it's understanding just like when your kid does something stupid or your employee does something stupid or your boss does something stupid people are going to make mistakes man we're human we're human and and by the way it is extremely difficult to operate with people without without forgiveness right because no one no one goes through life without making mistakes your your boss is going to make mistakes if you can't forgive them and be like "Oh you know what he had the best intent in mind." I get it or maybe hey he had a bad intent in mind and he he got busted and now we all see it and he's asking for forgiveness or apologizing or owning it and okay cool and that might take a little longer than an honest mistake like when someone has bad intent it's much more difficult to forgive them right when someone is intentionally doing something that is wrong it is not happening like it's going to be very difficult much more difficult to forgive but when someone makes a mistake someone makes a [Music] mistake you you have to be able to say "Okay I I get it." And and not only that expectations like if I put such high expectations on other people and they're they're not meeting them or even whatever expectations I put on them you can't expect people to always be perfect and basically a lot of times like you like you can't expect an A+ from people a lot of times you got you got to expect kind of like a C well maybe like a B minus you know what I mean and if you don't if you if everyone that gets a B minus you you can't work with and you can't deal with it's going to be really difficult for you to go through life it it just is it's going to be very difficult for you to be part of a team it's going to be very difficult for you to understand that people have shortfalls like it's people have shortfalls you watch Peaky Blinders right oh yeah so one of the interesting things about Peiquey Blinders is like you got the different characters in there and you got Tommy and Tommy's you know pretty much making good calls he's like getting an A right for his making calls but bro he's got like his brother's on heroin his other brother's just like shooting people and getting in fights and and his like like those other members of the family are doing things that are wrong and they're mistakes now we could argue whether their intent is good or bad but for the most part they're just making mistakes they're just making bad moves bad calls emotional calls and Tommy's just kind of having to be like "All right you know he's filled with forgiveness." Like he truly like he's forgiving his brothers on a daily basis for their shortfalls it feels like there's a level of all the things you're saying right Pey Blinders included there's like a level of understanding I guess where totally you know totally it's like yeah that's that's you know that's that's that's what's his name i can't remember the character's name right now uh but Arthur yeah that's that's Arthur you know what I mean like okay got to go bail him out of jail again and listen at a certain point let's not get into the let's not go down the road of enablement but man Arthur's kind of who Arthur is you know he he is who he is and at a certain point you're like that's who he is and what we have to do is set up an apparatus that is enablement right if we and he tries to pull him out of it um and if you have someone that's got some self-destructive behavior like that obviously you got to draw the line but and and part of forgiveness there I think is letting go so if you want to go Carrie you want to go down a self-destructive path I'm going to do what I can to help you oh you start drinking you start doing uh meth you start doing drugs you start g whatever that whatever vice grabs a hold of you i'm going to do everything I can like Carrie bro what are you doing like let's stop this let's go let's get you in rehab i'm going to do all those things and at a certain point my forgiveness of you is going to be not just just to kind of let it go hey man I did what I can do you can't save everybody by the way and when the demon of vice whether it's alcohol whether it's gambling whether it's drugs whether it's what whatever vice someone grabs a hold of that's a demon man in their heads it's a demon and it's it can't be overcome sometimes so being able to say "Yeah the demon the demon won." Like if you got in a grappling match with Gordon Ryan and you lost I wouldn't be mad at you i would think "Hey man i I wish you would have trained more but you know you lost to Gordon Ryan if you lost the battle to alcohol I'd be disappointed i'd be bummed out but I would I would have to at some point go that's the way you know he lost he lost that battle and I don't I don't even know if this is right or wrong i at a certain point that demon is stronger than you are and I can I can't actually I can't get in the ring with you right just like I can't if you're if you're grappling against Gordon Ryan it's not I can't I can't get in the ring with you i can't I can't get on the mat with you if you're grappling with alcoholism or you're grappling with drug addiction or you're grappling with gambling or whatever that vice is I can stand on the side and coach you i I literally can't I can stand on the side and coach you just like I can coach you against Gordon Ryan but you got to do the work and you got to make it happen and if you lose either one of those matches I I I at a at a certain part of my mentality in my brain and my heart I have to go he got beat by the demon and I forgive him i mean I'm not going to give him money i'm not going to I'm not going to I can't afford to invest anything else with him but I don't hold against him i hope everything works out and and you know what's it's the same thing you we're talking about vices but it's the same thing with you know when someone's got when someone's got a big ego it's like yeah you you lost that battle man i It's a bummer it's sad to see i I actually don't even hold it against you like if you get out of control with your ego and arrogance and you you mess up your life which happens more often than people think even then I'm like "Yeah he lost that battle." You know he lost that battle against that demon i hope he I hope he can reverse it get a sweep maybe get on top maybe score some points but I'm not even mad at that so which is a very critical jump in thought process because if you think about if you got your personality right and let's say you have a little bit of arrogance and so you do some you do some things and you do some dumb things you whatever little move you make and you take care of yourself and you don't think anyone can see like you doing these little things I get it man you're up against a tough demon man that the ego is a tough demon and it's strong and I hope over time we can get you changed i hope you can see that you know you don't need to be that way and maybe you even ruin our relationship maybe you do things and you you screw me over and I'm like "Okay I guess you know Carrie can't really be around anymore." But even then I'll be like "If a year later you come back and you're like "Hey dude i was really messed up i shouldn't have done that." And I'd be like "Cool sounds like you got a sweep on the demon and now you're on top and we can be good again." So I think that uh forgiveness is just such a key component of of of going through life of going through life if you can't have forgiveness for yourself if you can't have forgiveness for others you can have that curse from this quote right here that curse that you're trying to put on other people it's going to come back and get you check next one a clean glove often hides a dirty hand you know pretty straightforward a deceitful piece is worse than an open war okay definitely a good one to pay attention to that's right up there with hold your friends close and your enemies closer right so having a having a a relationship that's based on lies that's based on deceit but we're still putting up a front that everything is cool that according to this proverb is worse than just like let's fight that's one thing that was nice about being in a platoon was generally speaking it's too it's too close contact that you can have this sort of deceitful piece it it's going to come out like you there's too much there's too many friction points for a for a friction point that's getting heated up to not set a fire what's it like in the Marine Corps same thing yeah very similar we used PT as an outlet for this all the time you know we we worked out 05 PT you know every day and we uh framed it as training right McMap so Marine Corps martial arts program you know we do a reframed industry yeah so we we you know go back behind the shop we sit you know do a little uh bullpin uh circle put the two people beefing in the center and back to back and you say go and you got to start from back to back and you make it happen from there let's get it you know and we exercise those demons bro you know get it out of the system yeah and that's better than having uh you know deceitful peace oh yeah now does this mean you go open war on everybody no that's not what we're saying and by the way you you so many of these little moments of like uh always tell people the truth you know I know there's been people say you know you never lie about anything jordan Peterson was like hard on this and people would ask me about this kind of thing and I'd like yeah but start with yourself start with yourself if you're going to tell the truth to you know if I'm gonna tell you the truth about something I need to start by telling myself the truth so if you're doing something that I don't like the truth is there's something wrong with me the truth is I'm letting something bother me the truth is I haven't uh given you the guidance truth is I haven't explained things to you properly so start with yourself start if you want to start an open war start that open war with yourself that's where it begins next one a few vices darken many virtues this is in the military they have a a saying i believe it's one a [ __ ] can cancel out a 100 attab boys if you make one mistake it's like it's all thrown out and here you got someone that's got a really good lots of good things going on lots of good virtues but they got that vice or a couple little vices and that darkens everything so be careful next one after one vice a greater follows that's like the gateway vice right the gateway drug slippery slope the slippery slope who was it uh I'm trying to think of I we had I think it might have been Chad Robo was on the show and he was talking about um getting people that were like drug dealers and how it the if you find a person like they were looking for human traffickers and how do you find a human trafficker well you just start with someone that's selling drugs because if they're selling drugs then they're smuggling drugs if they're smuggling drugs then they're smuggling more drugs cuz they're smuggling more drugs than they're smuggling people and they're selling people and they just don't care so and it's not it's not 10 out of 10 but it's like 8 out of 10 or 7 out of 10 if you're willing to get on that slippery slope 8 out of 10 you're going all the way down so be careful with that little action that you take that little action that you take that might not seem that bad and I tell you what especially these days I' done you know I work with law enforcement a decent amount and you start looking at the numbers of fentanyl overdoses again I'm just taking like a tangental turn here but whereas when you were a kid Carrie you could go out and try some ecstasy or whatever and whatever like all good you know you're at work on Monday morning or you're back at school Monday morning these days you go out and try some ecstasy which is supposed to be a little fun night drug and next thing you know you're you're oding from fentanyl so that's an involuntary uh escalation of vices that you're going to get so kids out there don't do it don't do it you you said something the other day you were like we were talking about stuff that was going on and you were like I don't accept that and that was such a powerful thing you know it was just some when I when I heard it I was like damn like I need to I need to start saying that to myself about some things you know where it's like no you know there I don't accept that there's no next step down the slippery slope no just negative keep moving you know actually I need to keep this i was thinking about um occasionally I'll get asked you know what views have you what views have changed for you and I'm normally like well not really many i don't really know any because guess what what view what how your view changed on leadership well it's cover move simple prioritize and actually decentralize command take ownership of things like that really hasn't changed but one thing that if you listen the past 10 years of the podcast in the beginning of the podcast when people would ask about alcohol I'd be like well you know there's a bonding and it's okay and it's like you do some stuff and blah blah blah and I was somewhat forgiving going back to the forgiveness somewhat forgiving of of alcohol and now I just have no forgiveness i'm I have nothing good to say about it and I believe it is just 100% bad 100% bad if you listen to early podcasts I probably sounded like alcohol was 50% bad or 60% bad but now I now I think it's 100% bad there's nothing good is going to come from it that's one vice that's going to lead to others you're not getting rolled up at 2:00 in the morning uh for a fight sober it's not happening it's not happening so let's keep that in mind next one a fool's tongue is long enough to cut his own throat so yeah let them run their mouths that's another thing you know I get asked of of you know how do I get people to listen to me but also you know I got this person that loves to talk so much well let them talk let them talk keep going and eventually they'll be quiet a grinning face often hides a foul heart good little heads up there a headstrong man and a fool may wear the same cap by the way there's some older language in this and there's you're going to find there's a lot of the word fool so keep that one in mind you're just going to be hearing a lot of fool but isn't it interesting a headstrong man and a fool may wear the same cap what are we talking about here we're talking about being so stuck in your ways and so set on your own idea that you're acting like a fool determined no you're you're I'm just a stubborn i just have a I just have a strong personality that's a great one right i was one of these people got a strong personality oh so you're an idiot so you're a fool if it's really you know this goes uh the the explanation effort meter mhm if how hard is it for me to explain my idea at a certain point if it's so hard to explain to you Carrie why we should do things a certain way or why should we go to this place or why we should do this thing if it's that hard for me to explain maybe I should check myself maybe I'm just being stubborn maybe I should not be a fool uh all players cannot win important thing to think about all players cannot win and I think it's the most important thing to think about here is how often are you the player that's not going to win if you're me it's quite a bit i was I wasn't winning much you know it's if we think we're going to win every single time we're going to have problems all players cannot win and sometimes you're going to get bested by someone else and that's frustrating i was talking to a kid the other day about winning and losing and it was actually a female and I said "Well do you like winning more or do you hate losing?" And immediate response "I hate losing immediate response which is a drive you know some people are driven by that you know Michael Jordan you hear these stories and if you watch the last dance you watch the last dance right uh yeah like someone beats him in some freaking card game and he would let it fester inside of him but and that's cool if you're going to use that to drive but you know every game in life is not just a game there's real things in life where you you sometimes are going to lose all players cannot win and I think it's important to recognize that recognize that all players cannot win look try hard to win it's kind of like the uh winning at all costs statement that I did a few years ago and boy we suckered in a lot of people with that one we And Ekko made it into a whole video and he set it up real nice it was me saying we you know we have to win at all costs and that was the big uh hook as you guys in the media world say right me saying you got to win at all costs and people were like "Yeah that's right." But then you go into the video and into the statement that I was making was what that means is win at all costs what that means you have to compromise you have to make exceptions you have to you have to take a different path than you originally thought you were going to take you have to open your mind you have to change your own perception of the world sometimes those are the actual costs those are the costs yeah yeah the cost means oh yeah I'm actually going to not get credit for this thing oh that's winning at all cost yes it is that's all cost the cost is I get no credit for for the victory how's that for a great cost some people can't handle that heavy cuff some people can't handle that cost they'd rather lose their ego would rather lose than not get credit for the victory it's freaking ridiculous so important thing to keep in mind all players cannot win and you might be that player that's not going to win this time here's one for you ambition breaks the ties of blood wow okay you see what I'm saying here ambition breaks the ties of blood our ego our ambition we can get so wrapped up in trying to win that we'll we'll we'll we'll screw over our family for that that's wild that's wild it happens very disturbing that it happens but it happens that people become so possessed with with that idea that they can screw over their friends and family so keep Why is that important to remember well number one you need to check yourself because you need to make sure you're not doing that and number two recognize that other people might do that cuz it seems so foreign right you got your bro and you think there there's no way they would do something against me and yet they can so use caution ambition can break the ties of blood anger manages everything badly we know that one all too true anger manages everything badly 100% don't we don't make good decisions when we're pissed an envious man is a squinty fool ain't that interesting when you're envious and you're looking at someone that the squinty eyes seeing what someone else has that you want you're a fool you're a fool don't let that happen an occasion lost cannot be redeemed a real uh basic form of this one i don't know if you've ever heard me say this before but uh if you miss a workout you can never get it back is that why you were smiling immediately like if you miss a workout you can never get it back this goes back uh my very first SEAL platoon my my LPO my leading petty officer he would say "Always go out." And the way he meant it was "Always go out to the bar bro." Straight up this was back in the day bro like there was people there was some there was some alcohol being drank back then unfortunately myself included but you know you always go out like we'd get we'd fly somewhere and you get a a a layover somewhere and you know you think "Oh go hit the gym." Nope well go out always go out well I in my mind as a young kid I turned that into always go out like always go always go do the thing and that became a pretty a pretty solid mantra always go out cuz listen you don't always need to go out and you got a chance to go do some training obviously an operation that's a no-brainer like if there's an operation going we're going like I'm on that thing i'm not going to be like "Well I'm not sure i'd like to." No we're going that's what we're doing um because an occasional loss cannot be redeemed you can't get it back you can't get it back what's that tendency we have like what is that tendency where it's like oh I can make it up tomorrow or whatever i would say laziness and or fear so laziness is like well you know I can do it tomorrow fear is like I don't know if I should do this today say it's one of those two things and going back to the movie Soldier which I know which I know you appreciate uh who's that guy that stars in that uh Kurt Russell kurt Russell what a underrated movie and to be quite honest with you as a I that movie didn't come out until later in my life but that's kind of the way I envisioned myself as a child right and in that movie the the woman he he's a soldier of the future who just has one job and that's to fight wars and the he gets abandoned on this on this other planet where there's sort of people living there and he develops a relationship with his family and the woman one time asks him you know it do do you feel anything and he says yes she's like what what do you feel he says fear and discipline the reason I say that is because there's two things that can make you not go fear and laziness what overcomes both of those things discipline all day long so whether it's lazy gets overcome by discipline or it's fear overcome by discipline now hopefully you feel more fear than laziness but either one of them got the same answer on the back side discipline all day next one arrogance is the obstruction of wisdom yeah check if you already think you know everything you don't need to hear you don't need any information from anybody else and so you're not going to get any smarter and boy isn't it crazy that you can be 30 40 50 years old and still be in that zone look I get it you're 18 you're 15 bro you think you know everything cool i get it but by the time you're 30 or 32 you might want to you might want to open up your mind a little bit put your ego in check or you're not going to learn anything next base gains are the same as losses what does that mean well there's the whole there's the whole term base are you familiar with that term no so base in the way language the old the old version of this word was like kind of bad evil base it's when you read Shakespeare it's like base thoughts will bring you so so it's it's negative and borderline evil it's not quite evil and I would say it's sort of uh base would almost relate to our anim animalistic nature I should have looked that one up but If you use your sort of anim animalistic or brushing up against evil nature to achieve something it's the same as a loss check so when you cheat and you win it's the same as a loss so be and that's the same with anything in life right we're stealing something it's not really a gain it's a loss you're cheating it's not a gain it's a loss next one bad eyes never see any good h what kind of lens something I've been talking about a decent amount lately what is kind of lens are you looking at the world through the the thing that the thing that's interesting about this is people we don't even understand that we have a lens on we don't even understand the biases that we see the world through and so I if you are looking at the world through a negative lens it's kind of funny right now there's a lot of political things going on and it's it's very interesting to watch people that would be cheering for one thing 6 months ago are now cheering for the opposite thing and people that were cheering for the opposite are now cheering for something different anything that Trump does is bad anything that you know boom like that's it doesn't matter what he's doing it's bad so if that's the way you see it that's the way you see it or anything that Trump does is good and it doesn't matter what he's doing if he's doing something it's good and that's the way you see it so just be careful uh no one's perfect they're going to make some mistakes elon Musk everything he's doing is great or everything he's doing is bad no it's actually he's a human apparently allegedly he's a human and so he's is he going to make some mistakes yeah of course he is is he going to do everything perfect of course he's not but depending on the eyes that you're viewing the world through can really screw your vision up really bad so be careful that big heads have big aches big heads have big aches couple different ways to take that one i mean I guess you could go with the ego thing right you know if you got a big head you got big aches the other way to take that is the more aware you are of what's happening in the world the the more pain you're going to feel that's another reality cats hide their claws check they're all uh soft and they purr and they snuggle up to you and then they scratch your eyes [Music] out covet covet covetousness brings nothing home going back to the jealousy thing you're going to see some themes here that's one of the themes being jealous of people coveting of what they have it's not going to bring anything home go get to work dude you like you like the car that that person has and it makes you mad it makes you jealous go get to work and you can buy the car it's my recommendation the jealousy and the envy isn't going to bring anything home it's not going to get you a new car cowards die many times before their deaths reality corruption of the of the best becomes the worst corruption of the best becomes the worst so when the good people get corrupted man you got to watch out it's going to get ugly cowards like adders coil and hiss oh yeah the loud mouth out at the bar right that loud mouth he's scared it's a good It's a good lesson to teach kids is that the person that is talking a bunch and you know uh being a bully generally it's cuz they're a coward so keep that in mind crimes generally punish themselves there's a there's a an underlying theme in this of fate like if you're doing bad things you're going to get you're going to get hung up eventually i like that i I believe that to be true as well that's why I say if you do the right things for the right reasons you're going to win in the end well if you're doing the wrong things for the wrong reasons you're going to lose in the end totally believe that i've seen it over and over again now can the loss come at a heightened state like after you've achieved a lot yeah it can by the way you can achieve a lot and still have a miserable life because everything you've created is a lie you can do that that won't be good plus this one takes time and nobody wants to wait you know i didn't really get this until I was a little older you know you have to be able to see example well you just you just have to see some of this stuff play out right oh yeah and it may take years where this dude screws you over you know and it's it's high road or low road and you choose the high road because hey what what's the low road going to get you other than that little immediate thing right and then but over the if you believe that and you take that high road and you wait year two years it happens every time it happens yeah that's true that's the truth you see that with careerists in the military like someone that's just trying to get the next rank and they're doing the thing and they're kissing up and they're trying to grab the credit they they they get promoted bro for sure but man they develop that reputation eventually that reputation catches up with them so crimes generally punish themselves debt is the prolific mother of folly and crime what a good one you do not need You do not need the 2025 brand new uh Cadillac Escalade you don't need it dude you are much better off buying uh 19 Oh no let's go let's go let's go let's go 2017 Dodge Grand Caravan you're better off than you are going into debt to get that Cadillac that's the move and when people go into debt they start to freaking panic and that's when that's when folly meaning dumb decisions or even crime bro there was a a seal that got rolled up for smuggling weapons and I I I forget the details of the case but he smuggled a bunch of weapons out of Iraq or Afghanistan and sold them in America and he netted like I don't know what it was like 30 or 40 grand and got rolled up and got and went to prison for 15 years or something like that for 30 or 40 grand it's just like when people start getting behind man they do dumb [ __ ] so do your best not to get yourself in a position where you're where the world has leverage on you you don't want to be in that situation you ever go buy a car that you really wanted have you ever done that before yes you are at such a disadvantage when it comes to negotiation you need to be able to walk in to buy the car that you don't even really want this car in fact partying should be like "I shouldn't even buy this car i don't even want this car." And go negotiate then you're going to be do much better job with negotiation but when you're not when you're when you really want that thing you get jacked well when you get in debt now all of a sudden you really need to get out of debt and you start doing dumb things you start making emotional decisions next deceit and treachery make no man rich now you could argue that one a little bit right um first of all we have to look at what what do we mean by rich as our our brother Bob Marley said you ever seen that clip before oh it's classic right what do you mean wealthy he's like are you a wealthy man what do you mean wealthy you mean money maybe not you mean friends you mean joy yeah very wealthy so with that definition I think we're all day now do you see some people get rich while they're doing deceitful things yes we do yes we do story never ends there though but the story doesn't end punishment takes some time it'll get there bottom line deceit and treachery are not going to work out well in the long run might get a little short-term but you might get some money in the wallet where you going to be in the long run though deadly poisons are often concealed under the sweetest honey check debt is the worst kind of poverty again it's it's one thing to be broke but it's another thing to owe another thing to owe so be careful 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan man all day i'll I'll I'll always be thankful to that 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan cuz I drove it for 13 years and I owned that thing and boy what a great piece of leverage that is on the world just be like "Oh yeah doesn't matter i'm I'm all good over here i don't care who sees me driving this thing." I'm you know in the I was definitely one of the top probably the top five toughest guys in the world driving a minivan actually don't but debt is the worst kind of poverty now do you have to buy a house yep do you have to get a 30-year mortgage yep do you want to do Is that acceptable yeah especially if you get a good rate right now the rates aren't great but you get that nice 3 or 4% rate maybe even a 2.25 you probably won't see those again but you is it okay to go into debt you're going to buy a house you're going to live in that house for a long time yes it's understandable that's not the kind of debt we're talking about the kind of debt we're talking about is a is a 2025 Cadillac Escalade that you cannot afford so be careful envy is the rottness of the bones so good envy shoots and others envy shoots at others and wounds itself eternal vigilance is the price of liberty so basically before those last two being being jealous and being envious are not going to be healthy for you it's and the more jealous you are the more it's going to it's more it's going to wreck you i've seen it wreck people before i've seen that just eat people up man so be very cautious you kind of sometimes you might have to impose it on yourself a little bit cuz it's very natural for your ego to be jealous and envious and sometimes you're going to be like "Lock it up man that person achieved something." I'll hear I'll hear somebody make a quip about someone being uh successful and I'll say "Good for him man that's awesome don't you think that's kind of awesome you know I got to put myself in check sometimes like why does that person get Oh yeah it's because they worked hard they just got lucky oh did they just get lucky they just happen to wake up and built this little empire that they got or put that product together or get that thing out there or whatever you just happen to do that that was just luck no dude you don't know what they did it's sticky too but like people it it leads to this obsessive thing that's when it gets real nasty right like when what do you mean when envy turns into this obsessive Oh can't take your eyes off it constant you know constant hating that's where it gets dark you know yeah there's nothing better that to re represent that than the story I tell about Seth where Seth I bought this new house and it was like a it was a a rundown crappy house but it was in a prime location if you surf we surf and I had a couple people that I know friends we'll say that had seen the house I was going to get and come by the house as we were you know like setting it up we hadn't closed on it yet and we're kind of like you know this they pointed out a bunch of problems with it of course all kinds of problems you know and I hadn't told Seth i told him I was getting a new house but I hadn't told him where it was because I didn't want to jinx it so finally I get the keys to the house and I go "Hey bro." And this was in the early days of texting right not that early but this is 2012 i sent him a text like "Hey bro i got the keys meet me at the new house." He's like "Send location." I sent him the address and he was like "Yo." And he showed up and walked in and was like "Bro we're set bro we are set and he was just totally stoked totally stoked no envy no jealousy just freaking stoked for his bro that got a kick-ass location that's our location that's our location but that's where he was at man he's like and I'm not kidding an hour later he showed up the house with surfboards for storage on the location so that's what we're doing don't let the envy don't let the jealousy rot your bones next one eternal vigilance is the price of liberty and by the way look we can say that about our country right but let's not forget about ourselves that's another way of saying discipline equals freedom right that's another way of saying it you want to keep that freedom and you got to stay vigilant you got to not let things I like about the term vigilance is that you got to stay vigilant so you don't get surprised look you get catastrophically hit with something that we know that but what happens is those little things those little creepers that start taking away your freedom a little bit at a time one donut at a time it's going away got to be careful evil doing costs more than doing well yeah those little uh shortcuts you think you can take that are going to save you some time save you some money they ain't evil often triumphs but never conquers again this is like a short-term win doing something that's that's not 100% short-term win long-term loser evil minds change good to their own nature and there's another theme in here uh from these things and what I like this is like goes back to the lens thing like if I'm if I'm evil and you're doing something I'm looking for why the evil reason that you're doing it so I I look around the world and I change things to fit my own narrative cuz I'm a bad person and that happens too often evil conduct is the root of misery sure you're doing bad things it's going to be it's going to it's going to catch up with you external sheep internal wolf as you can see I it's one of the few that I highlighted right external sheep internal wolf this is another tangental connection to this is discipline and and no compromise and no mercy all those things which I say a lot I I only say them about myself right i'm not going to compromise with myself i'm I'm going to impose discipline on myself and the way you carry yourself externally like a sheep internally like a wolf now in this day and age there's a lot of people that carry themselves like wolves right there's like a lot of people that that uh what did Craig Jones Craig Jones had a great little clip that that I saw of course but it was talking about videos was talking about videos of apex predator animals and Navy Seals and ice baths and basically it was a bunch of people externally acting as the wolf and he was uh making fun of that rightfully so so what this is saying is you know be cool be quiet and carry a big stick right externally sheep internally wolf you ever you ever approached someone or been uh confronted by someone and you said to yourself "Oh this person's a this person looked like a a sheep and I can see now that they're actually a wolf." That happens uh in jiu-jitsu when you tie up with someone you immediately know what is happening even if the person is you know like Jeff Glover 150 pounds when you tie up with him if you didn't know anything about this dude but you knew jiu-jitsu you would tie up with him and you'd go "Oh there's something going on here." External sheep internal wolf that's how it is that's how it should be same thing where you get some of this big jack dude just freaking walking around like the alpha and you tie up with them you're like "Dude ain't happening ain't happening." Now it's hard to do that on the regular in jiu-jitsu like cuz you can be a big tough alpha acting dude and you can't get away with that for more than a couple days on the mats before you go I thought I was alpha i'm not externally sheep internally wolf next one falsehood is cowardice truth is courage tell the truth about what's going on false in one thing false in everything little that's very similar to that have you ever heard the expression the way you do anything is the way you do everything very similar right very similar and that's a good thing to keep in mind for the little things that you have to do on a daily basis just the little things and it's a good thing to keep in mind when you're dealing with someone else and you start to see things that are not in line with what we're doing because if they're false in one thing it's a reasonable assumption to make that they could be false in other things maybe not everything but at least other things some of these uh some of these proverbs are extreme meaning everything or nothing and I'm not a I'm not an everything or nothing kind of guy so even this one false in one thing false in everything i'd be more like false in one thing could be strong possibility false in some other things so definitely true maybe it's not to the extreme that you're false in everything fools despise wisdom and instruction yeah no doubt about that fortune makes a fool of him who whom she favors too much fortune makes a fool of him whom she favors too much so you get lucky once and you start counting on that luck you got to be careful you got lucky once bro don't think you're gonna get lucky every time it ain't happening my uncle was a car salesman and he had a small car lot where he sold used cars he's retired now but he had his own little car lot you know probably had 10 to 15 vehicles for sale at any time and he had some buddies that he was friends with and that kind of hung around the car lot with him and one of his friends won the lottery back in the 80s dang and won I don't know what the number is but what the way they do the lottery if you win the lottery they take that whole bunch of money and maybe sometimes I think you can choose a lump sum or you can choose to get paid out over time i think the lump sum is a little less anyways this this individual chose to take the payment over time and it was something like 20 years maybe even 30 years but it was 30 years and it calculated out to like I don't know 30 grand 40 grand a year so he'd won millions of dollars and he had won it in his early 20s and dude don't quote me on the details of this but I'm giving you the the the the overall concept of the story the dude had won millions of dollars paid out over time it ended up being 30 40 grand a year and so he didn't really ever have to work and he just lived off this money and what he did was he hung out with my uncle a lot on the car lot and hung around and you know whatever and so my dad was down there and went to the car lot and was you know saying hi and whatever and um the guy was there and he was like "Well you know this is this is my last year of getting the money." And next year I won't be getting my my checks i won't get my check for winning the lottery and my dad said "Well what are you going to do when the check stops coming in?" And the guy says "I'm going to win again." So just be careful right you get lucky once you may not may or may not get lucky again and if you think you're going to get lucky and you count on luck we can't count on luck fortune makes a fool of him whom she favors too much next one force can never destroy right check now what you got to be careful of is force can impose itself for a for a prolonged period of time and that can be problematic if you look at some of these countries that have been ruled by tyrannical leaders those tyrannical leaders aren't right but they can stay in power for a long time north Korea as an example so it's not right but it's being imposed can't destroy it but dude you can you can suffer for a long time from fame to infamy is a beaten road yeah yeah from fame to infamy is a beaten road meaning there's plenty of ways to there's plenty of ways downhill and it's a lot easier to go downhill than it is to keep going uphill so use caution gambling is an express train to ruin okay fair enough careful gambling do you ever gamble no you used to roll didn't you used to roll to Vegas a decent amount yeah but it was work i was going to trade shows you never got out there on the blackjack table just got it on occasionally but very rarely i I don't like the idea of the chips being pulled away i I don't like that man i I don't like losing money it bothers me um and and gambling is just it goes too quick i'm never been a fan yeah i' I've gambled plenty but never had the pull you know never had the big pull for it you know what's weird is you ever heard somebody say "I have an addictive personality." Mhm and and I think I I said that for a while probably when I was like 30 25 to 30 like "Oh I have an addictive personality." It's almost like a little humble brag isn't it do you think it's a humble brag it [ __ ] i have an addictive personality you've never heard that little humble brag it feels more like it has a negative connotation to me okay personally you know um but that's probably cuz I'm kind of one of those people you legit have an addictive personality yeah i guess I guess you and I see it differently cuz I always would hear people be like "Oh you know I've got an addictive personality." It was almost like a humble brag and I and I think I used to do I used to do like the humble brag of like I got an addictive personality that I could go just get so into stuff but I realized probably 10 years ago I actually don't have an addictive personality i don't think I don't get addicted to things gambling is one of those things where I could do it have fun go to Vegas go to Tahoe South Lake tahoe by the way good times go to South Lake and gamble the whole time for 72 straight hours by the way because we're not sleeping when we're in South Lake as a young single seal ain't happening so gamble the whole time and just leave one money lost money doesn't really matter and still be like whether I ever gambled again or not didn't really care so and and drinking was like that for me as well was like oh we're going to party this whole weekend and and then on Tuesday at work I'd be like you know some guys be like I need another drink and be like oh I I'm fine so I didn't really have that addictive personality now you're a little bit different a little bit different yeah well more more practically though I think is is it's just easy for me to like come upon something and like incorporate it into the thing right just into what we're doing um and bro you just made that sound so innocent like just incorporating the thing into what we're doing yeah you're like "Yo I can see how you rationalize that." Yeah well that that's that's like nowadays even still like practically right so uh I used to used to drink mhm it was a problem don't drink anymore haven't drank for a long time right but um how many years you not drink for it'll be 15 this month and that was cold turkey scenario that was cold turkey scenario and how was that caveat though i was physically separated from any opportunity to drink alcohol for a period of time jack in which but after that I kept it going and how was the withdrawals uh pretty pretty bad you know for that that first period of time first couple weeks because I was a everyday drinker you know it was just an everyday thing um and I was hung over did you think in the state of drinking every day did you think you had a problem or were you just like dude this is just how I roll [ __ ] I don't have a problem look at that loser over there can't even handle their booze i'm over here GTG yeah just lies i Well I thought I drank as much as any other kid my age cuz I I quit drinking when I was 23 mhm so when I was 21 22 years old and I'm getting after it every night I thought so is everybody else you know I'm I'm a 22 year old kid drinking we all do this you know uh so I didn't think of it as a problem was it creating problems freaking catastrophic issues in my life yeah but at the same time I you know it's real easy to be like just bad luck you know whatever you you try not to make the connections in your mind between all the dots you know mental jiu-jitsu straight up straight up just rationalization justification all that stuff especially my brain is pretty strong so now when you do you feel like you get addicted to other little things like sometimes people go from being alcoholic they become like a marathon runner they become a a workout fiend they become a video game what did you Did you have another outlet or did you find another outlet yeah% was the next outlet so I I definitely like threw myself into I I started getting addicted to like the endeavors like the things I was doing right so uh I started doing school then working a job then working a weekend job you know for 8 10 years I had three jobs essentially and was that a conscious like I'm just going to make myself busy or was that just your brain going I need to this is what this is what I'm this is what I'm doing this is what feels good a bit of both but honestly I felt like I needed to make up for lost time like I felt like I was way behind the pack and I needed to do more to get back to where I needed to be but also being just being engaged in those things was was helpful helpful for me especially like early on after not drinking uh instead of you know uh being at the bar and partying I was working the door you know I was security or whatever uh and then event so you were still around booze even after you quit yeah it was it was it was tough in the beginning uh but after that there was this point where I kind of started defining myself as a person who didn't drink it it became something I was very proud of and it was like you know what I I don't I don't do that so it's almost like I started looking at alcohol as a a commodity it wasn't even alcohol anymore it was a thing that I was around that you paid for you know and it wasn't like something I was thinking about or interested in like you know partaking in or Yeah that that attitude of it being weak mhm because when I was a young kid and I was like straight edge and we were getting after it it was it was kind of empowering right to be like "Dude you're weak and you don't have control." And it was it made me feel good right uh and then unfortunately when I got in the SEAL teams I was like "Oh that's okay that's what we're doing." And I got on board with that which is again it's unfortunate it's me being a young uh weak minded myself because when I was a young 15-year-old and I was a hardcore kid and straight edge was the thing that we were doing and people that weren't doing it were weak and lame and stupid and then I got in the SEAL teams and it was like okay and now I'm a little bit older and it's like okay well that you know this is what the this is what the frog men are doing and unfortunately was like okay this is what we're doing and bad move but the idea which I'm back to now which is like oh yeah as I said earlier it's like 100% bad alcohol is 100% bad drugs are 100% bad now look maybe the psychedelic stuff which I've never tried I've never done any drugs before But so I like I said earlier I can't sit here and say like all bad look I know the psychedelic things have helped some of my friends out a lot so the retreat the whatever the voyage that they go on and all that stuff but for a normal human that is going to day-to-day life and is using drugs in their daily life like hey you go and do some Iawaska voyage to heal up your brain okay I'm not I'm not pro work on that i just know the fact that it's helped some friends i also know it's made some other people messed up so I'm not an authority and I don't have enough knowledge to speak about it what I can tell you is this if you're doing some kind of drugs alcohol on a day-to-day basis is not good for you it ain't good for you and in this day and age if you're thinking about doing drugs and you're a 15-year-old kid uh you're wrong and you're doing something stupid you're doing something that can get you killed but never mind get you killed like what do you want to do with your life these drugs aren't going to help you they may seem cool at the time but what you do need to do is take the attitude that Carrie just talked about the attitude that I just talked about which is like oh if you're doing drugs you're weak you're dumb you're putting your life at risk you're putting your potential at risk so don't do it that's what we're saying that's what I'm saying you on board with me i want to quote for you all right that's what we are saying so keep those things in mind you can get derailed by the way and and hey here's another thing that's interesting is I know people I have friends that have drank their whole life no big deal no factor literally no factor and I've known people that has wrecked their lives and killed them so there's two ways and you know how you know which one you are you know how you know how you wake up dead one day or you don't wake up there's no You can't like hey let's run your DNA and we'll see if you're going to be an alcoholic or not it doesn't work that way it's like oh it you just happen to like drinking and you just ruin your life or you happen to like drinking and you're fine why take that chance i don't think it's worth it i had a friend that uh or my my old neighbor my old neighbor's nephew was uh was a meth head and he said the first time he tried meth that was the only thing he ever wanted to do for the rest of his life was more meth that's how powerful it was and that's the effect that alcohol can have on some people it's like the same exact effect that crystal meth has it's like oh this is what I want to do so don't roll the dice and by the way even someone that lives every even someone that I sit here and says like "Oh no factor." It is a factor it is a factor alcohol is a negative factor regardless of whether you can handle it or not it's a negative factor it's not makes you kills your brain cells wreck wrecks your It's poison you're putting poison in your body don't do it check tangent complete next one god helps the strongest this is basically a message from God to lift as far as I can do squats and deadlifts get one get some god permits the wicked but not forever it's another good one time time is the ultimate kind of adjudicator of justice and God's gonna let people do here wicked things but but not for the long haul it'll catch them and that's in the next uh one here god's mill grind slowly but surely that's so metal that's so metal it God's mills grind slowly but surely so things are going to take time and by the way that should also be a positive thing because if you're doing good work you might not get rewarded for it today you may not get rewarded for it tomorrow but you'll get rewarded for it joe Moss Joe Moss he he says this thing time and pressure time and pressure every time I say something he's like "Time and pressure." And it h you know it's it's true factual keep keep putting keep grinding yourself and God's mill is grinding as well slowly but surely you'll get yours and if you're doing good you'll get yours and if you're doing bad you'll get yours hate and mistrust are the children of blindness now what I like about that one is I if you feel like you don't trust someone or you feel like you're you're hating someone go and talk to them like like go open your eyes basically it's really easy to sit in a vacuum and hear stories about someone and hate them but go and shake hands with them and get to know them likely you'll be able to overcome that hatred is the vice of narrow souls fair enough hasty climbers have sudden falls yep no shortcuts it's when you're on that rapid pace of growth just be careful the hasty climbers have sudden falls hell and destruction are never full ouch exactly that's a That's a Just a little note right just a little note alen Destruction are never full there was a t-shirt well I actually the boys sent me one but it said um uh make buds hard again teams are full it said on the front make buds hard again it said teams are full on the back you know we got enough well hell and destruction is not full and if if you set yourself upright there's plenty of room waiting for you here's a good one he that coverereth his sins shall not prosper you're going to make mistakes you're going to do things wrong don't cover them up if you cover them up you're going to have problems it's a one of the rules in task unit bruiser no cover-ups think Leif and I talked about on the podcast you can't If you try and cover things up it will come out it's 100% going to come out do the big cover up we called the big cover up oh the big cover up nope doesn't work can't do it makes it worse oh it's it's definitely going to make it worse and And part of that came from when I was the admiral's aid that you know I got to see all these uh things that were happening and one of the things that happened was there was I got to get this story right but there was a like an army an army element down south of Baghdad they shot and killed a guy and they and they planted an AK on him and they got rolled up and the guy went the kid the sergeant went to jail for like 10 years and what I know is if you shoot someone and you report what they were doing and why the individual was shot then as long as it's within the rules of engagement you're going to be okay so what does that mean uh the you know here's the guy he was by the side of the road he was digging a hole like there's reasons why people need to get shot if they're putting in IED in the road etc and these guys got these guys uh got rolled up and I forget how they got busted but there was again I'll cover the story at some point but somehow they got rolled up and busted and the sergeant goes to jail for like 10 years and it was like oh yeah if you do a cover up you're definitely going to be in a much worse position than if you say "Hey here's the situation here's what followed here's why the shots were taken." And the army when I got to Romani the army had a a means of describing this which was good shot bad result meaning here's what the shooter saw here's why the shooter took the shot and it turns out that the shooter was wrong but the shooter didn't have bad intent and this is a good shot with a bad result like okay check so the other end of the spectrum is we're going to try and cover this thing up and when you try and cover things up it just don't work man it doesn't work comes out in the end he that plants thorns must never expect to gather roses oh that's a good one he that plants thorns must never expect to gather roses yeah to me I think immediately of how you what you say right you're running around talking smack about other people like keep your mouth shut he who lives wickedly always lives in fear yep ain't that the truth he who lives wickedly always lives in fear well needless to say the other end of that spectrum if you're doing good things you don't have to be afraid he who seeks trouble never misses it ain't that the truth you know I don't know if you saw this clip ekko and I were talking and I was talking about the the bus [ __ ] been happening thing by Theo when Theo Vaughn there were when Conor McGregor got in trouble for throwing a hand truck at the bus and and Theo Vaughn did a little rant this is this is the first time I ever saw Theoon and he was saying that you know everyone's all surprised that that he threw a that he threw the hand truck at the bus and he's like "Bus shit's happening bus shit's been happening people are surprised now." He goes "You go down to the Greyhound what are you going to see you're going to see people coping pills selling pills uh adults drinking Similac." And I I just kind of said you know that's really really true people get surprised when bus [ __ ] happens but bus shit's been happening so guess what if you're looking for trouble you're gonna find it you're going out at at 1:00 in the morning in the streets and you're surprised when you get into a fight or you're surprised when someone tries to harass you and you end up in a scrap and you end up in jail you're surprised about that cuz you're drunk it's like no if you're if you're seeking trouble you're going to find it next he that boasteth of his ancestors confesseth that he hath no virtue of his own yeah he that boasteth of his own ancestors confesseth that he has no virtue of his own yep when you call back to your uh your your ancestors about why you're proud like might want to check might want to check yourself he that gets money before he gets wit will be but a short while master of it so if you get money like young maybe you win the lottery at 22 it's going to be a short time that you're going to have that money he that grasps at too much holds nothing fast can't hold on to too much a little prioritize and execute hint here right we're trying to do too many things at once trying to hold on to too many things at the same time you're not going to hold on to any of them he that is too secure is not safe uh apply this to your kids right you can keep your kids 100% safe but you'll end up with a kid that is not safe you might say "Oh I don't want my kids to they might get hurt doing jiu-jitsu." Yeah they might get hurt doing jiu-jitsu they'll get hurt a lot worse getting beat down in the school system so and it's the same with us right there's uh there's just there's just way too many ways to go through life without any risk whatsoever and if that's how you go through life you won't be in a good situation you won't be in a good situation he that sings on Friday weeps on Sunday yeah got to put that put that party animal in check he that will not be counseledled cannot be helped that's an ego he jests at scars who never felt a wound yeah it really is easy to open your mouth and make pointed comments about someone and a situation that they're going through when you've never gone through it yourself it's always better just to keep your mouth shut it really is it really is better just to keep your mouth shut you know something negative to say to someone like why what are you going to get from it and what are the chances that when you make a comment to them you find out the real story end up being an idiot next he who waits for dead men's shoes may go long enough [Music] barefoot bro you got to make it yourself you got to you got to do it yourself you can't be waiting for somebody else you can't wait for the dead men's shoes you got to go out and make some shoes yourself he who fears to suffer suffers from fear write that one down yeah you're going to suffer you're going to suffer you're going to work hard you're going to be You're going to be on the mat suffering you're going to be in the gym suffering you're going to be in in the in the classroom suffering but if you don't do that if you don't step out you're going to be in fear you're going to be in fear all the time he who stumbles twice over the stone over one stone deserves to break his shins yeah fool me once uh that's on that's on me fool me twice that's on you uh f fool me once that's on you fool me twice that's on me that's a similar one he who thinks he knows the most knows the least keep your ego in check he who is so full of himself is quite empty bam hell is full of the [Music] ungrateful his shield is turned the wrong way that's the That's the whole proverb his shield is turned the wrong way what does that mean that means you're looking at all these other things that are attacking you the problem is you you are the problem you're the person you got to watch out for i I used to uh brief the young SEAL officers that were in the junior officer training course and one of the things I was I'd put up a I'd put up a picture of like al-Qaeda uh AMZ i'd put up like all the Hamas Hezbollah i'd put I like pictures of all them and I'd say "Who's your who's your worst enemy?" And everyone would make their guesses and the next one would just be you the next slide would be you you're your worst enemy you if you have much more potential to hurt yourself than any of those terrorist organizations out there guaranteed guaranteed so you might just have your shield turned the wrong way you might just have your spear pointed at the wrong person it's going back to that thing I said about telling yourself the truth yeah point that spear of truth at yourself if a fool has success it ruins him check if fools went not to market bad wares would not be [Laughter] sold check if one two and three say you are an ass put on the ears so if you got a bunch of people saying you're a jackass you might want to like put on the ears of the jackass and actually listen to what they're saying this goes into the reading the comments type thing uh cuz some people are or like I don't care what other people think listening to other people's opinions i get it i get it and the reason I get it is because you're going to have people that are negative of course you're going to have some haters out there you're going to have people that don't agree with you and that's fine to an extent but if you start getting one two and three and five and 10 now you're going "Wait a second maybe it's me." This is feedback we we we call this feedback we call this the feedback loop it's sort of like when you're a boss and no one that you're bring on the team seems to work out well hm do you think the problem is all the people you've been hiring for the last five years or do you think that you suck as a leader or you're you're you don't get promoted once okay what about five times in a row you might you just might be the problem so you listen do you need to react to every single opinion that you get from other people no but do you need to pay attention to it yeah and there could be a certain point where you say "This might be on [Music] me." Next if thy hand be in a lion's mouth get it out as fast as thou canst you know what's interesting about that one is it's like situational awareness right we get in situational awareness scenarios where we're not paying attention our freaking hand is in the lion's mouth and once you recognize that your hand is in the lion's mouth freaking get it out so financially right you start seeing like "Oh I I'm having a little trouble right now oh stop your spending." Or "Oh you know I'm freaking hung over for the fifth day in a row oh I'm in a bad situation." Get your hand out of the lion's mouth as fast as you [Music] can let's Let's wrap it we got a bunch more of these things to cover let's wrap this up for today with this one right here we are bound to forgive an enemy we are not bound to trust him again going back to this theme of forgiveness which we started with a little bit yeah you got to forgive your enemy but this doesn't mean you need to trust your enemy 100% right there's a big difference mhm and that's up down and across the chain chain of command and by the way this applies to yourself as well because just because you forgive yourself you make a mistake just because you forgive yourself doesn't mean you you're not vigilant anymore it doesn't mean you don't trust yourself anymore and this is one of those things where recognizing that you're not as aware of yourself as you should be is of utmost importance and I go back to the situation that happened with me with my friend Grizz died and so 1993 and the assistant platoon commander we had Alton Leakers are just a great dude and I was very very good friends with him like very good friends just just an awesome guy a charismatic funny quarterback from the Naval Academy gregarious leader just a great guy and we got along incredibly well had a lot of fun and he was killed he was killed in a in a he was murdered in a terrible situation right in Coronado California awful and so when he died you know I was very obviously I was really uh broken up and really sad and as the way I was acting was about me that I had lost my buddy and I was sad and I was going to miss him and my one of my other very close friends actually was my my actual best friend and roommate at the time who knew me who had gone through SEAL training with and done uh multiple platoon with and he he pulled me aside and he was like "Hey you're not the only person that lost Grizz." And he was and I knew exactly what he was saying and he was 100% right and I realized at that moment oh you you cannot trust yourself 100% that you're doing the right thing all the time and so that's an important thing to keep in mind and I talked about you know forgiveness and forgiving yourself we are bound to forgive an enemy we're not bound to trust him and I apply that to myself as well like I'm I've made mistakes obviously made mistakes forgive myself but I'm not like "Oh I forgave myself and now it's okay now it's okay to do this." It's like knowing that you can go to confession on a Wednesday or on a Sunday and being like "Well you know I'll just I can do this sin right now and I'll just confess later i'll be all all good to go." No it's it doesn't work like that so you have to keep in mind you have to you can forgive yourself you can forgive your enemy but that doesn't mean you abandoned any for lack of a better word any suspicion any little bit of paranoia you need a little bit of paranoia about yourself i'm paranoid about myself i'm paranoid about myself when I was in the SEAL teams I was very paranoid about recheck my gear make sure I have everything reprogram those radios make sure they're good to go like everything was there was a little bit of paranoia that was fueled by a lack of trust and when my buddy told me "Hey you're not the only person that lost Grizz." It it it it it planted a little seed of mistrust in my soul that I know from that day on I need to make sure that I see myself properly and I see myself from other people's perspectives because other people's perspectives are going to be different than mine and if the only person that's I'm seeing the only person perspective I'm seeing is mine guess what that makes me a self-centered loser so we're bound to forgive an enemy we're not bound to trust him you have to forgive yourself but that doesn't mean that you stop paying attention and you stop putting yourself in check and you stop assessing to see what you're doing how you're doing it and where it's taking you so with that we'll save the rest of this for the next podcast and um in the meantime we can't really we can't ever stop we can't ever trust ourselves 100% we can't ever stop being a little bit paranoid just like we have to continue to push ourselves we have to continue to stay vigilant in all aspects that means we're working out that means we're training that means we're getting after it and you know what that means that means we need some fuel and in this case we're talking about Jaco Fuel so check out jofuel.com what's going on at Jaco Fuel right now Carrie what do we need what do we need what do we got coming out anything special so when this podcast comes out we should have two new flavors of hydrate powder out which is going to be pretty sick uh Island Orange and uh Tropical Tropical Punch tropical Punch i have them both i mean we got a little early and they're good to go yeah freaking tasty uh different people like different flavors and those are really good they're really good they're really good delicious gives you the just tropic vibes all day for sure the tropical punch and the orange tasty when's the coffee and donuts coming out coffee and donuts is coming out in uh beginning of May okay so that'll be a coffee and donuts flavor protein powder uh for the people yeah and it's very concerning right i know there's a lot of concern a lot of debate you know is it is it the right thing to do for Jaco to come out with a donut flavored freaking protein drink the answer is yes right the answer is yes we we ultimately got to the point cuz listen I put myself into a box i painted myself into a corner where I can never actually have a donut again for the rest of my life no way with as much [ __ ] I've talked about donuts with as much negativity that I've thrown donuts ways there's no way I can ever have a donut again i can't put one in my mouth i'd have I'd it would it would be wrong morally wrong but coffee and donut flavor look am I anti-donut flavor no bro let's face it i'm not anti-donut but let's face it I'm pro donut flavor but it's not something that we took lightly so ultimately we got to the point where donut and coffee which is a tasty flavor we went with it so that's coming we got some We got some coffee and donut flavored milk protein powder coming your way got a little 95 milligrams of caffeine in that one too put the caffeine in it yep that's the coffee part oh really yes sir are you sure about that positive oh 100% 100% okay right on that's cool i know that when we made the sweet cream coffee RTD we once again we were like well do we do we put caffeine in it or not ultimately the answer was yes people are drinking coffee for a reason especially people love that morning little protein 30 grams of protein plus the caffeine on the sweet cream coffee that's breakfast deluxe right there easy yeah easy so we got that coming um jofuel.com you can check that out you guys know what we got we got hydrate we got protein we got energy god this energy drink is good so good and good for you have you moved off the 50/50 tactical tea or are you are you still going hard i'm pretty consistent on the 50/50 tactical tea the iced tea lemonade lemonade the icy lemonade is my definitely my go-to flavor as you can see I'm kind of doubling up right now cuz I got the pink lemonade right here as well you got two open flavors i got two cuz I was kind of going back and forth but yeah definitely the iced tea lemonade is my is my go-to but all the flavors taste good now now look back in the day back in the day when the only person that was judging the flavors was me this is lesson learned right your own perspective right i can't only one perspective we were looking at mine and if you had the early version of the go energy drink chances are you didn't like it now you might have liked the way it made you feel you might have liked the health benefits to it you might have liked the fact that it wasn't going to turn you into a diabetic but you probably didn't like the taste that's because it was based on me so we opened up our perspectives we got a little now we have like the full tasting pro uh profiles and everything like that but you'll find one you'll like them all you'll probably love three of them i'm fully on the blue ras train oh you're on the blue ras train right now everything blue ras man oh really the hydrate too hydrate pre-workout yeah all All day check go yeah how often are you taking pre-workout i'm a regular user just regular user daily every day not not every day um but my on my big days you know like leg day we're we're doing some pre-workout you know but I do about a half a scoop you know I'm not going crazy with it but I use it when I need it and when I need it boy it's good to have it it is good to have like you got that day where maybe you didn't get the right sleep maybe you were expended a bunch of energy the day before doing whatever mhm like like maybe you rolled that jiu-jitsu and you're just kind of full body doms having that pre-workout in the in the chamber if needed is freaking good to go cuz it you will 100% feel it oh yeah and it gets you I like the way it's not it's I like the way it's sort of like being a a frog boiled in water where you don't really like you take and you're like okay cool and then next thing you know you're halfway through your workout and you're just getting after it you're like "Oh that's right get some." I got to be a guinea pig for Ashley at Jaco Fuel she's you know one of our um formulators and she she sent me a little sample of a new pre-workout that that they're working on that one's extreme and I took that and I gave her some feedback on that one the it has the same thing as the regular one where the the big jump for the Jaco fuel pre-workout for me is the mental it's actually like the mental focus I feel like I get really zeroed in which is awesome um because I'm not distracted by my phone or finding the right song or I'm I'm in the zone and I was giving Ashley some feedback on that new new formula it's the same except uh are you familiar with uh uh mind muscle connection proceed so this is for me this is where in in a workout you're really thinking about the the muscle that you're training this is like thinking about the growth of my muscle at this time right to make it grow more so I'm in the middle of the lift did you have a spiritual moment with this straight up straight up i 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of mind think about them if you don't think about them that's when you get caught if you don't pay attention to them that's when they sneak up on you and things like these proverbs that we covered today can help you stay on the path that's all we've got for tonight and until next time this is Carrie and Joo out