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one is to prevent Google from striking deals for prime search engine placement um referenced how Google pays Apple 20 billion dollars annually amazon has their own search engine i missed it no you just said Prime search engine placement oh you very much confused me i missed it maybe but yeah we we I mean we've talked about how much Google pays Apple what is up people of internet welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast we're your hosts i'm Marquez i'm Andrew and I'm Nintendo Switch 2 we're going to keep this big i don't really know how long we're going to keep doing this we might as well it's early in the SEO so you know that might that might work thanks transcript um no in today's episode we got some updates actually it's a lot of updates to things uh Blue Sky Apple Intelligence uh what else switch to pre-orders are on the list multiple antitrust lawsuits because those are going to keep getting updated um so the tech move so the tech world so so tech moves fast and lots of updates happen so we're going to keep covering them it's great yeah um hey but yeah if that sounds interesting to you make sure you get subscribed to the Waveform podcast here on YouTube because it turns out a lot of people see these in their homepage and they do watch them and enjoy them but then they don't subscribe and it would be cool if you did but if you don't like us don't subscribe that's It'll be really annoying if we pop up making a Nintendo Switch 2 joke in your feed every week and you don't like us yeah yeah no it's okay and we make a lot of inside jokes we do make a lot of You got to subscribe to figure out what the inside jokes are it's true one day we should do like just a big episode where we just explain all the inside jokes and that's it i bet you reference that episode if you want to know what we're talking about as a footnote every time we make the joke but we have two small things first the first one is within like a couple of hours of last episode somebody on our subreddit made the crank prototype that you have to wind in to watch YouTube videos which was crazy pretty insane i didn't see it working but I I'm going to take their word for it that they actually they only posted pictures right i'm going to throw it out there if you could post a video that would be awesome i would like to see that but it is not lost on us that we have an audience big enough that literally within 12 hours someone like made a stupid joke that we made in a game so awesome that's like crazy to see and really please do not bring any of the others to life please force Marquez to Pepe people up on Do and watch that horrible uh listen to that horrible song on Spotify there was a comment that was just like "How dare you for playing that that long?" I was like "Lis I can't think i can't think um but the second thing Yeah is actually a question that I have for you guys listening and watching especially here on YouTube uh so a little backstory for the last couple of almost actually probably more than a year last couple months we've been working on both doing transcripts for every MKBHD video and more recently dubs in multiple languages for MKBHD videos in an attempt to make them more accessible to people in different regions who don't speak English mhm you may know a lot of people who watch our videos mostly live in English-sp speakaking regions and watch videos in English but if you live in a Spanish speaking country you might not watch these videos unless you have captions or maybe a dub in Spanish and so it kind of unlocks availability of these videos so we've been experimenting with it and trying a bunch of different things we found something that works pretty well for captions the dubs are interesting because we've experimented both with humans who speak both languages both English and say Spanish doing a direct translation but they don't really sound like me and they also take a long time they also take much longer and obviously are are pretty pricey but then there's also AI dubs which are a machine that sounds like me but isn't necessarily a perfect representation you know how Google translates a little dang faster it's cheaper but it's not as accurate um we've been playing with this a lot in in different videos different timing different sorts of things and the question that I have for you guys is specifically in our number two most popular country which pop quiz is India is India a lot of people in India speak multiple languages or do speak English or speak Hindi or or sometimes switch back and forth between the two and some of them watch videos in English or Hindi i don't know if you've watched tech YouTube in India sometimes I switch back and forth as well and the latest video which was a Lightphone 3 review we uploaded it at the same time with dubs in my voice in Spanish and Hindi i thought you learned Hindi no yeah I didn't learn Hindi this was actually a dub and interestingly Spanish mostly positive feedback people watching the videos in Spanish speaking regions what happens on YouTube is they detect that you're in a Spanish speaking region and automatically play the video with the Spanish language and a lot of people I saw on Twitter were very excited like oh wow I can watch the video basically in English on this channel or in Spanish on this channel and I saw mixed feedback from India because a lot of people in India like I said watch videos in English and so when they opened the new video it defaulted to the audio track of the Hindi dub oh when they actually are pretty used to watching videos in English and so some people were saying "Oh wow this is Hindi i I like this better i'll watch this." A lot of people were like "No I don't like this i'd rather watch English like I usually do." Yeah and so I had a small sample size this is why I'm opening it up to the waveform commenting audience what if you live in India and watch YouTube videos what do you prefer do you prefer defaulting to English or defaulting to Hindi you can dive into the settings and change it on a per video basis but I'm curious what your default is in what you watch on YouTube i can see that's a I think the biggest issue we have here is that it defaults based on region because we've already shown that India is our number two like most watched country so they clearly are enjoying it in English we wanted to do Hindi so it might branch out to some more people um but it defaulting if you were already a subscriber and used to it yeah that's probably annoying to now check it off every time i think that's why it hit so like in a lot of countries that are not on our top countries list they're not on the list because most people don't watch videos in English in those places so if you just pick a random country that doesn't speak English and then give them a dub that might boost the amount of people who enjoy the videos in that country but in like US or bunch of places here that speak English they don't want to dub in a language they're not used to so that's kind of why it feels like we're seeing that level of feedback yeah our our other question is the difference between a human created dub or an AI dub it's not even really the price that's our issue it's that I think a human one usually takes about 5 days four to five days where we can get an AI one in less than 24 hours and sometimes upload at the same time so we're not sure if like we've been testing both of where does it is it a good benefit for us because is 5 days after the release kind of too late most of the time yeah it's it's a great point because most if you look at the curve of an upload it's like this and usually after 5 days it's there and everyone's watched it who's going to watch it like tech videos have a really short shelf life a lot of times evergreen videos maybe people watch it longer down the road that's cool but yeah I I do think we got some feedback about the dub the AI dub not being as accurate oh for sure which was our And I can't fact check that because I don't speak the other languages so TV it's definitely a pickle we're in but would love to hear some feedback on a larger audience than just Twitter I guess um so that's why we're posing it to you all but next thing speaking of YouTube audiences ha I got that one good uh we're recording this on Wednesday which is the day of the anniversary of the 20th year since the first upload to YouTube i could have phrased that was the longest that process 20th anniversary of the the first YouTube video rewind this is the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube upload there you go there you go me at the zoo by Jod yeah 2005 yeah the thing about those elephants is they have really long snouts do you remember the script for this video yeah I watched it this morning it's Oh is that what he said it's also like Yeah it's also like 20 seconds long could have been trivia that could have been It's chaptered off now too what yeah wait yeah really i noticed that this morning i was like these chapters are flying by because it's 19 seconds intro that's funny wait intro chapter but they're just all called intro i'm very intro the cool thing and they must do they just like test half their features on this video no I think he logs back in he logs back in yeah he's notoriously like change the description of the video multiple times and like pin comments because he was a founder of YouTube so when he adds something there it's like the founder of YouTube just said something does he change the description of the video did you see that on the video there's a little birthday cake yeah yeah yeah just for today it might be gone by the time you listen to this podcast but I thought that's that was pretty cool that video can almost drink just one more year 20 in the US i can drink basically anywhere else you can already enlist in the army that can too i have some interesting uh numbers I'd like to share with you guys 47 that are pretty crazy so number one that's a pretty crazy number number one is this was the first video uploaded to YouTube it was 2005 since then over 20 trillion videos have been uploaded to YouTube hey Adam from the future here so I'm editing this episode and it turns out that YouTube actually updated their blog to say 20 billion YouTube videos not 20 trillion YouTube videos as we say here okay back to the episode if I had a nickel you'd be wealthy my friend i don't know if you understand what you could pay off the US national debt like the amount of storage space the amount of content 20 trill not one trillion 20 trillion i would like to know how much storage YouTube is currently active 20 20 trillion would you like to know that cuz it would probably blow your mind that's why I would like to know i would rather The other the crazy thing is 20 years 20 trillion so obviously we've gotten like a lot of videos per year yeah there was exponential growth though on YouTube fittingly on their 20th birthday they found that uh there are a roughly 20 million new videos uploaded every day 20 million new videos lgbt is notoriously not great at math wait this is this is really easy though sorry it'd be$1 trillion there's 20 trillion nickels because if I had a nickel I had to use chat because a nickel is a 20th of a That is correct yeah you'd have $1 trillion but yeah 20 20 million videos uploaded every day um and YouTube users upload or sorry YouTube users average over a 100 million comments every single day 100 million 100 million comments and I'm sure there's a graph somewhere of like 99% of the videos have zero comments and 1% of the videos have all the comments thanks to the waveform listeners for that that's crazy 47 of those are useful comments that's where that number came from so you said you said 20 million a day 20 million videos get uploaded a day how many comments per day and 100 million comments are posted on YouTube every day and 999 million of those were waveform comments you mean 99 million cuz there's 100 million total we just we broke the scale i'm sorry math is hard um the last thing is they discovered that creators you know can you can heart a video you can like a video you can pin a sorry a comment you can heart a comment creators hearted 10 million comments every single day wow there's a lot of heart and engagement going on you know what's an interesting thing about YouTube the like feature i don't like that the like feature automatically adds it to a like videos playlist um same yeah because sometimes I'm just like I'm supporting my friend like I was looking through my liked videos on YouTube today and uh mostly I just like videos that my friends upload just to give them a boost but I don't actually like the videos that I like which is actually stupid of me do you have playlists did you make Have you made your own playlists no that's what I do my liked playlist is just me trying to like support people that I like and then I make the disc golf workout whatever documentary playlist and then just save them to those instead interesting but if you use YouTube music I believe no one does that wow well if you like something like a song it also still saves on your liked playlist or even shorts i've liked shorts and it saves in my liked videos that's not That's why that's a total throwaway playlist in my eyes and it gives you an Amazon ad to buy them what the shorts oh my gosh backwards pockets where would we be without Dude I was running with the Did I show you them that's That might have been the deepest inside joke i I would like to see them i will bring them in next week yeah they're they're backwards i have a bizarro backwards twist i want to do trivia it's not It's It's not for your trivia it's for I have trivia for you guys just curious if you know the answers because obviously I know the YouTube trivia but uh if you haven't already read the blog post we'll see what you guys think you remember when um the first ever YouTube video hit a billion views you remember which one that is right yeah yeah which one is that it was Gangum Style that's what I thought it was correct okay there are now how many videos in the billion view club 1 billion on YouTube um closest delta closest delta 20 no I'm going with 100 a thousand 20 100 a thousand 100 is the closest there are 300 music videos 300 music they're all music videos i think there's a few more random like kids videos that are Oh I would assume they're all kids videos but 300 music videos and the fastest which took 88 days was which one to a billion fastest to a billion it was that Justin Bieber it's not Kids Baby it's not Despacito it's not Gum Style it's not Baby Shark it's not Baby Shark baby by Justin Bieber right it's not Baby baby was the first to uh a million dislikes or something else it was one of the most disliked videos ever until rewind jokes on you guys though it's still a view i'll give I'll give you the the countdown of the four three and two okay four is Rosé by Bruno Mars 105 days oh that song is a banger three is a really good song by Willie William and Jay Balvin 103 days that's a good one then there's a tie at two ed Sheeran Shape of You and Despacito tied at 97 days what and this one beat them all in just 88 days getting a billion views was it recent like in I feel like in the past year maybe no it's not in the last year is it old you all know this reviewing every iPhone so it's a song yeah it's a music video it's a song can you give us the genre um it's pop I will tell you is it pop with a letter in front of it no it's not K-pop k-pop my last hint is that the artist name kind of sounds like a tech company bruno Mars jay-z i'm just assuming Pit Bull's part of it somehow pitull he's probably not solo video tech company man this is a lot solo artist okay can you play the first note she is the only one in the video oh oh ariana Grande no can you play the first note give it away the first note 100% i mean we're not getting It seems like we're not getting it anyway i want to hear just the first this is just the first note we'll give it away right now this isn't like Friday is it no this is a Dell oh hello oh yeah that's the fastest to a billion views really you know how I know that you didn't sorry you did not know that you know how I know that that is true after hearing that it is true yeah how I can verify um my economics professor played it played the music video for us as we walked in and he said "This song is a banger guys i just had to let you know this." Wow that's my the only teacher was ever played a music video for me in class 88 days and now has three billion views jeez you know what there were like a hundred of us in that class so it actually has 3 bill100 views but it only got one view from the economics professor nice you probably watched it a few times definitely for sure definitely wow that's crazy so yeah there's your random trivia from Marquez of the day are we down to keep going semi off the rails here because I have a question basically we're already so far gone we might as well because it's the 20th year of the the first upload i wanted everyone here to pick their favorite video on YouTube oh I did and say it out loud here it can be you know funny educational anything just one you really enjoy okay for whatever reason do you want to go first yeah okay so this is really really hard obviously it is super hard um but one that really sticks out in my head pretty pretty strongly is the Vsauce video that's called Do Chairs Exist i feel like we've vaguely talked about I think I've mentioned this video before i really like this video i think it goes I think it's like 40% too long right for VO 1.5x speed fixes well I I I actually recently hit three let's go 3x new PR i can only I can only do it on my phone but I've been doing everything at 3 recently except for Hank videos cuz he already talks fast hank Green already talks very fast so can you watch Philanco videos i have not watched one since like 2015 yeah you wouldn't survive long 3x 3x would just be like a fire hose of information yeah I will say so in the in the spirit of this YouTube thing I think that's one of my favorite videos my most influential channel for me was a channel called Nerd Writer 1 which was like the original video essay guy on YouTube before they became the OG before the category became popular very nice do you want to go you looked pretty excited this morning when you were thinking about I thought of two one of them to me is uh the the goofy murder trail comic video but that's just a video that I laugh every time I watch it i had never seen it until I started working i think I've watched it at least 10 times essence goofy cover that's a good But I'll re I'll recommend another one that I think most people haven't seen which is about 10 years ago and I shared this on Twitter when it went up there's a video that got recommended to me called nobody tells us to beginners and it is a purely motion graphics video um which is basically just walking through an Ira Glass quote but it is about how when you're starting up as a creator of any kind there's always a gap between your skill level and your taste and what you believe is good and the more you work and close that gap the better your taste gets and you're always chasing that yeah and nobody tells that to beginners so you just as a beginner assume you will never reach the level of your taste but if you zoom out enough you actually have passed your previous best anyway it's a minute and a half long it's very inspiring we'll link it below i rewatch it probably at least once a year it's it's a banger that quote is great yeah did you he did a um Iglass did an interview recently on that podcast that started from the ashes of reply all hyperfixed no the other one oh oh the PJ VO version he's done a couple is it on search search search engine yeah he did a video he did a podcast called uh Is it okay to just work all the time and it's basically just an interview with Ira Glass but it is a very inspiring very uh very interesting interview i think you should listen to it i'm going to download that right now for my flight do it what's it called it's called Is It Okay to Just Work all the time and the podcast is called Search Engine yeah this Reddit post that I just says "A podcaster interviewing another podcaster about making a podcast." It's crazy how Reply All ended and birthed awesome podcast yeah yeah it's like a neutron star yeah he has a really good Iglass has a sorry nerdgass has a glass has a really good quote in that where he's like um he's like why would I put out anything unless it was incredible there's enough midship on the internet already damn brother let's go what a bar anyway Andrew what's yours um I'm kind of between two but I'll only say one to not make this go on too long there's this 25minute documentary called Remain Seated Please and it's just a story about these two friends who loved this ride at Epcot Disney so much called Horizon which was like this old ride that showed you like what the future looked like and then they started finding ways to like get out of the car and walk around the back of like the sets and like on the sets and they videotaped it with like an old VHS and then they uploaded it like way later um and it's just like really fascinating about them just like being these like full-g grown adults just like walking around the set of this like futuristic ride and they had to like duck behind so when the cars came by and like people were actually watching it um they spent like years doing it and wow just like this it's this 25minute documentary where you learn almost nothing but keeps you entertained the entire time so you don't need to be like super 3x Yeah it' be like 7 minutes long then but uh yeah I think it's one of my favorite favorite videos on YouTube that's a good one uh I'm going to play Ellis's next cuz he's out sick today but he did send in a video what is up pod people uh as you know I'm sick uh but couldn't miss out on this opportunity to drop my favorite YouTube videos out there uh a lot of my favorite videos are these really long sort of video essay things that require a lot of context to explain like the defunct land uh Disney Channel theme video or uh the John Boyce Dave Steve video that's a good one john Boyce my favorite YouTube video uh that I feel like needs no context is uh it's called Nightclub for Deer uh I do like it i hope you enjoy it you're good you're good yeah come on all the deer come on through all the deer all the deer at at one time come on all the deer more deer give me more more deer come on more give me some more more even more deer come on come on all the Wait a minute are deer just funny because two of the videos I thought of for this was the one where they're recording deer out her window and her husband sneezes and she's like "Thanks Ron." He's like "What i'm not allowed to sneeze." And then there's the other one where the guys the guy's dog chases all the deer fenton yeah Fenton have you ever seen people Fenton no i'm going to need all of these links cuz I don't know what they're talking about no in the background where's his dog that's a lot of deer dude that dog saw an opportunity and he took it dude he's hurting them he was like "This is what I was born to do man got to do it somebody got to do it." He's literally hoarding them like sheep i think this has to be I I changed my answer jesus Christ Phantom oh thanks Ryan oh my god sorry those are quality those are quality yeah shout out to YouTube the purest on social media do you have another one do you have crying holy cow that was so funny um yeah I think mine is probably Do you guys know Tiny Desk npr Tiny Desk yeah heard of it my favorite one is the Mac Miller one because Mac Miller did a tiny desk before passing and he played a couple of like my favorite songs and it's just a beautiful performance overall so a lot of times I'll just play that in the background while I'm like cleaning the house or doing things and great performance highly recommend it he's got Thundercat on bass it's like it's it's pretty epic but yeah that one's mine hell yeah how far into the pot are we already cuz we haven't touched a single news story we are celebrating YouTube um we are like 30ish minutes in oh my god okay okay almost all of these are updates so we can like we can speedrun them after the break how about that okay cool it's a long break but yeah let's do after what break we got to take a quick break but before we do that already we we we do have more trivia trivia dude okay so Ellis is out sick again but I have an Ellis style question because of it oh no these are all real Google services that I grabbed from the Google graveyard oh no which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests a Grasshopper B streams C polly or D shoelace man they just be taking whatever they want whatever word they want tibo yep tubu you want a hint tuba scuba it was 11 months old when when they discontin didn't even make it didn't make it wow it's definitely not Polly i know that at least let it get to the end of the year wow okay well we'll think about that and answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right back support for Waveform comes from Indeed searching for a great new 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went but uh yeah the only part of Apple intelligence that I consider truly available now is Genoji and the writing the writing modification thing just crashes my phone every time I even open it so I just really you know it's just bad for every image playground i forgot that would existed that's about how taking up storage on my phone i would like to forget about it um that's all just kind of a funny one more thing right before Dubdub we'll probably see Apple Intelligence completely it's been over 10 months since they announced Apple Intelligence and like all the Siri updates and stuff oh yeah yeah they also shuffled the leadership that's handling Apple intelligence very recently because they're just like "Oh god it's like they brought in a bunch of the Vision Pro team right?" I think that's what Mark German said yeah because regardless of your stance on the Vision Pro at least it's a product that is out it does exist it does exist it is available now it is available now so yeah shout out to available now that's why they brought it in um but speaking of Here we go things on the internet nice is it what you could do better apple intelligence i could do better uh surprise Fedverse corner you didn't expect that hit us with the Fetverse updates David yeah okay so Blue Sky has added verified check marks um wait have they actually rolled it out i thought it was only like it's rolling out yeah i thought it was only for certain like organizations well that's how it's working in general so they they are ver so okay if you remember how verified badges used to work on Twitter before verified badges across the internet just became payforplay uh it used to be on Twitter that you could apply for verification people at Twitter would decide is it important that your account is verified so that people know that you are the real person that is posting from this account and someone is not just impersonating you which when it changed to pay for play was very funny cuz many brands got impersonated by people and caused uh markets to dip and that was really funny um it was it was quite it was I'm not disagreeing with you uh so now Blue Sky after a long period of time has started rolling out their own form of verification which looks practically exactly the same um they did say that they had gone through many many iterations of different things like different colors and different shapes but they landed on the blue check mark because it matches their brand identity and they said they tested things like green but that it looked horrible and uh did not really relate to the Blue Sky brand like at all so for a little back backstory here Blue Sky wanted the actual form of verification that was going to work on Blue Sky to just be domain name verification and if you don't know on Blue Sky there's a thing where if you own your own website you can basically go into the DNS settings of your website and say "Blue Sky please use my website as my handle," which is the verifying portion of it so then when people see your handle they can see david.com and kubhq.com and they know that you're the person that is posting because you own the website right clearly that's not super scalable for you know everybody on the internet because not a super high percentage of people even have their own website um also no one has their own website well technically you're leasing it from the Ayanna or whatever but Well yeah but I just mean like we're not the normal people that would have our own website yeah very few people have their own website my mom does not have a website i think it's also in general just scrolling through the app harder to tell because like display name still is bigger and bolder and easier to see something near there versus the handle part of it is more obvious right the handle is kind of there so they decided okay we're officially going to roll this out now the way that they are doing it is number one blue sky themselves which is Blue Sky the company which is not same as the same as Blue Sky the public benefit company which makes the AT protocol because Blue Sky the company makes Blue Sky the app i know it's confusing they are basically verifying important people that they deem important so that they can make sure that they don't get uh spoofed right i haven't been hit up yet so flaw in the system just looking at my uh following page the Onion has a verified check right now the Verge has a verified check on my page right now uh there's a journalist I follow a tech reporter for New York Times she has a check uh I do not have a check i don't think I've been impersonated yet though are you MKBHD uh yeah yeah can you prove it no yeah well so there's a couple ways that they're going about this one Blue Sky the company is just verifying people but they're also rolling out something called trusted verifiers um and the idea of this is like okay if you're the New York Times and you have a lot of reporters and generally when they start verifying people this is the same thing they did on Twitter they start with journalists and politicians because the those are the two people that the two types of people that spread news the most the fastest twitter was also very dominated by journalists and politicians u before it even got big so what this does is they basically give an organization like the New York Times the ability to verify people on their team so they say okay we verify the New York Times the New York Times verifies their journalists that sort of allows uh them to verify people much quicker and so that's what they're doing right now um they surprisingly got a lot of push back on this a lot of people on on Blue Scout were not too happy about this uh many people said it creates a cast system of popularity um of lords and peasants of lords and peasants which is what Elon said of when he made it pay for play why can't we all just figure out the big problem on all social media is lords and peasants lords and peasants how will we solve it yeah so okay okay i I I talked to Blue Sky a little bit last night about this cuz I was like interested in how this worked technically the verification system is on protocol it is on the AT protocol so that means that if you start up another Blue Sky like application that uses the AT protocol you can choose whether or not you want to show the verification you know on your app or not cool so part of the differentiating factor of an app that uses the AT protocol could be that they don't want to show verified badges if people really are that against it they can just use something else it is cool that it's like built into the protocol yeah it was interesting like Twitter used to have they haven't said whether or not people with verified badges get like boosted algorithm reach i don't think they do i would say the one of the main complaints I'm seeing here and just there's like please don't only put like verified stuff at the top of replies that cuz then then it feels like really only catered for for sure like Twitter I got really lucky in 2013 because someone randomly impersonated me and I put in like a a a complaint that was like this person's impersonating me and then Twitter verified me and in like 2013 that was like a big deal so everything I ever posted had like much bigger reach because that was the case when you were verified on Twitter way back then uh but that's not the case here I don't think so I don't No I don't really see it as that big of a deal um but people don't want there to be a cast system I guess yeah I think it makes sense on any social network where people are spreading information and representing themselves to have some sort of verification system i I think a lot of people are literally reacting to the fact that it looks so much like the Twitter one that they hate exactly like it which is a blue check mark i whatever i get it but yeah I think it's important to have this system and the fact that it's supposed to protocol is a good thing so yeah I think it's a win i feel like the blue check mark has just outgrown Twitter like now it's also on Meta it's like the hashtag started on Twitter but now it's everywhere you know and the problem is that it doesn't mean anything anymore because even Meta it's just you pay for it and that's it on Twitter and Meta you pay for it and that's YouTube has it also yeah but you don't pay for that no you don't pay for that i'm still confused with the music badges though i feel like I see people with music badges so much more in comments lately i see that a lot too and I don't know what that just means you're like a verified artist on YouTube that uploads to YouTube Music or something like that yeah I think it's fine i think it's fine i think it's Yeah don't make it pay to win yeah um the one thing right now is like you can't you can't request to be verified and they're just kind of going through the people that they think are worth verifying so I think it's pretty much at least in this initial wave just going to be politicians and journalists because they're verifying all the the publications and the publications verify their journalist hank Green's verified yeah well he's Hank Green though he's like one of the biggest accounts on Blue Sky so that would make sense yeah yeah in other news we have the official pre-order date for the Nintendo Switch 2 oh boy and if you were listening to this on Friday it already passed you probably didn't get a Nintendo Switch 2 if this is news to you because it is Thursday the 24th um big thing about this pricing $4.49 there are some price increases on a bunch of different accessories ranging from $5 to $10 i think JoyCons and Pro controllers are both $5 more expensive some of the cameras were more expensive um so yeah your little bundle you buy when you buy one is going to be pretty pricey yeah but they didn't write raise the price of the console which is good i also read that most GameStops are claiming they're expecting around 100 consoles which is that's a lot that really feels like a lot i think I read somewhere on Twitter that 8 years ago they were getting between like five and 30 consoles a store there's also half as many GameStops as there used to be so that could be part of the GameStop may have a line it might it's like 11:00 a.m in store and then but still like Walmart Target are all doing some sort of pre-orders on the 24th yeah so it's midnight ET on the 24th in the United States um was it I thought Yeah midnight ET gamestop is different okay but the other ones tonight Yeah yeah yeah uh well yeah it's tonight at midnight which is kind of crazy uh and speaking of GameStop they actually do have some pretty sick tradein deals uh you can get $125 for an original Switch which considering they originally only costed $300 and that was eight years ago is a pretty good trade in I would say i think it's awesome cuz we're all complaining about the price if you trade one in you're getting it for about the same price as this as the Switch One 325 instead yeah yeah that's fair if it's good you do need to bring in the original HDMI cord it said which I thought was funny and might mess a lot of people up which I don't know if I have there is that is hilarious wait so you need the original HDMI i don't know it just listed the stuff cuz it needs like the console the dock the power cord the which also could be a USBC cord if you lost the original has the original HDMI cable i think I do i mean some people probably just plugged it in once and never unplugged it so they probably still have it oh okay yeah I guess if that's the one you're using then maybe that's the cable i have a way longer cable it's like 15 ft long yeah like I had a cable already so I definitely I don't know what I did with that cable yeah uh you can also get $175 for Switch OLED tradeins i have an OLED but I'm probably not going to trade it uh you can get $100 for Switch Light tradeins so I was just going to ask are you guys going to pre-order i literally go back and forth every single day dude minute by minute i bet at some point tomorrow I will look at one of the pre-orders and if it's available I'll have a very hard time not doing it mostly because FOMO right there yeah i think I'm in the I'm in the same boat where I'm not going to try really hard to pre-order but if I happen to stumble on one that's available if you happen to go to best buy.com or GameStop that's what happened to me when I bought my Switch OLED cuz they were literally impossible to find for like weeks and I randomly went on best buy.com and I was like "What available near you?" And I was like "Huh?" So I put in my cart for pickup and I showed up to Best Buy and the guy was like "Oh my god how did you get this?" Like when he was like checking me out he's like "How did you manage to did you use like a an app to?" And I was like "Are you a botter?" It was just on the internet my guy it was just there yeah another interesting note is that Nintendo had to issue a supply constraint warning in Japan because it got 2.2 million applications for pre-orders for the Switch 2 uh for reference it sold 360,000 in Japan in the first month when the Switch One came out so this is about six times that demand which is absolutely insane uh and it basically said that a significant number of people will not get it on June 5th this is the So they just kind of you just fill out a form there's no This isn't people who like put down five bucks or anything this is the like No no no this is like registering interest through the My Nintendo store to pre-order oh well that's something wow um Andrew I had a question for you about this that you might know more than me about doubt it but let's go my question is like immediately after the uh announcement video you were able to sign up for pre-ordering it through the my Nintendo store thing but it was sign up for interest and then there was that whole thing where like you could uh if you had 50 hours of play time and you had one year of Nintendo on Switch online you would be able to pre-order yeah i thought there was like a sign up for the pre pre-order like it almost feels like the like Capital One early ticket thing before yeah what was going to happen was that you were going to be able to those people were going to be able to pre-order a day before everybody else on my Nintendo store and then they stopped pre-orders in the US altogether and pushed them to tomorrow so my question is is that whole thing just gone that's the last I heard of it i haven't seen anything about that i'm not like you know refreshing every day but I have not heard anything about that because I haven't gotten anything in my email that's like pre-ordered no I didn't see anything on the Switch subreddit i very well could have missed it i like every couple days go on there and just kind of skim through everything to see what's going on but uh yeah I don't know if they ever got to do anything with that because of all the delays interesting interesting uh then you had one more thing here um we have a couple more oh that's if you're interested in trading in i was just reading that I thought was interesting if you have like the OG Switch One apparently they're super popular in the modding community cuz they're like the only one you can mod so I've saw people on there selling them for like a few hundred bucks so if you need a different way to make some money for Switch 2 that could be a way i think it like the modding thing only works if you hadn't up like updated the software past a certain amount could be i'm not totally sure i just thought it was what if I just used the money to short GameStop instead this is not financial advice if you couldn't tell all right but uh speaking of financial advice Google could probably use some I was terrible i'm available Google we we got an antitrust update in the US versus Google case and what is that um so we all know that the judge found Google to be a monopoly yeah um and they're in the process of figuring out how the US government's going to fix it so the judge during this trial said they're asking for three different things one is to prevent Google from striking deals for prime search engine placement um referenced how Google pays Apple $20 billion annually amazon has their own search engine i missed it no you just said Prime search engine placement oh you very much confused me i missed it thought maybe but yeah we we I mean we've talked about how much Google pays Apple um yeah to be that um they want Google to divest Chrome um the judge said it's the starting point of 35% of all user queries and has over 4 billion users and then they also would like to require Google to license its search data to competitors that would want it um so obviously they still make money through that through the licensing fee but obviously Google does Google wants that information for themselves monetarily it's more important to them because they get to do things other people don't get to do even though they could make a ton of money off of it um so Google's pushing back uh to almost everything they said above however they did kind of agree with parts of the um striking deals and not being like a a exclusive default search engine which is but the DOJ is like cool you can kind of agree with us on that but you already have created such a like impossible lead over through these like monopolistic tactics that like I think we need to do this a little more to make up for an insurmountable uh place that you're in right now this is the interesting part to me which is always like okay Google's established this lead and whatever you think about how they got the lead or whatever now they are like the search engine that people choose and Google still continues to pay Apple $20 billion a year to be the default search engine in Safari what if they didn't would what would Apple do i think the concern is that Apple would just turn on their own search engine that they've had ready for a very long time i think I think that's a possibility but I don't know that like is Google really think that that's what's going to happen i don't I just don't know that people would like would iPhone users be cool with oh I just like typed in the search box to Google something and it's just this other search engine came up for some reason i don't think they'd care really i really don't i think there would be a lot of memes if it if it was Bing tomorrow like how many people would just be like why i guess Bing to be fair looks a lot like Google bing has a lot of negative connotations for everybody at this point so I kind of feel like maybe they'd change it from that i think the biggest thing is if we're talking just like average person who has a phone how many of them would know how to change the default they might literally be stuck in whatever that and that's hundreds of millions of people and I just don't think a lot of people care i don't know because a lot of people still buy Microsoft computers and and they open up Edge to download Chrome there's also a lot of people who have Microsoft computers and and just use Edge because it's there and Bing is the default and they have no idea but Chrome is the most popular browser yeah it's not the default on any computer other than Chromebooks where it is the other so people do like seek out Chrome and seek out Google that is true so I just feel like if Google stopped paying Apple tomorrow obviously Apple could spin up a search engine and would have to announce it and explain it at some point and they could launch it and do a whole thing but I just wonder like would people Well it would it would I think it would my point is I think it would continue to be Google for quite a while sure but I think it's also the fact that Google's paying them $20 billion a year proves how important that defaultness is well Google's an ads business so why would they want to not pay 20 billion to find out you know like I'd rather just pay 20 billion that's how important it is 20 billion a year how much has that 20 billion been negotiated where it was like give us 100 billion and Google's like no we'll give you 20 billion yeah okay all right fine there's also I think it's it's more important for them to show more revenue than it is for them to show more profits necessarily and if they're getting more revenue more and more revenue because more and more people are using Google search if that dropped by even 20% all of a sudden like Google search has dropped by 20% looks terrible and their stock tanks it's just a lot of how much it drop that's the question i think by a lot honestly my mom would not go to google.com on her phone but if they but if they open up search on the iPhone after Google stops paying what would what does Apple do do they just leave it at Google who knows they defaulted to something with like the options of doing it in the settings which most people never find or they take money from someone else i don't know I do think that Apple has an incentive to keep it on Google because Google is still the best experience right now compared compared to Bing i feel like they clearly are willing to do something else though because they're getting paid to do it yeah yeah yeah I bet they would actually a fullyfledged really good product that is just ready to go that's got to be that they just don't think would make more than $20 billion and then therefore less money from Google into the complexities of running an ads business with privacy way more at the forefront in their because that's what a search engine is it's an ads business so we think so we think Apple has the ability to launch a full-fledged search product tomorrow yes but doesn't do it now because taking 20 billion from Google and just keeping it at Google is fine i think that to them that's less complicated than like getting into the advertising business and they could do it and they could make it probably make a lot of money but it the like you said like the security stuff and the the the data privacy i feel like if the government just told Apple you can no longer have Google be the default they would just make like a super private browser they're not dealing with this at all i don't think they would tell them Google can't be the default it would be Google can't pay you to be the exclusive well either way I just mean like Apple I don't think would want to be bothered with any of this well also think about the antitrust potential of Apple having their own browser that is the default because they would definitely come after Apple and be like you can't do that well not if they're not doing any kind of like advertising monopolistic things yeah right now do an advertising business yeah android phones Chrome is the default google's the default search engine and that obviously is a big point of contention with Chrome but let's say Safari is the default and Apple search is the default search engine and they're not the biggest search provider so they can't really have a monopoly argument yet is that fine for now i guess it seems like that would be fine i just don't I don't know it seems hard to believe that Apple could launch a new business today that is that massive that it threatens their biggest competitor but doesn't do it well you know the US broke up Microsoft because they were monopolizing search engines with Internet Explorer i could totally see Tim Cook getting on stage and being like you know never explaining the Google Chrome thing but just being like we have this new browser super private on your phone doesn't go anywhere and they're just like deal with this just search engine it could be the same browser but just like the search engine we've built a search engine to like get around all this it could be under I almost picture it being under Apple intelligence of being like "Yeah we've got so if you want to search for stuff there's Siri search and it's super private and and no one can sell you ads based on what you search etc etc." You wouldn't want any of those guys collecting data on you would you exactly use Safari true well the rest of this is pretty much about data satia Nadella testified during this i don't know why I think that's so funny that he's like the only way to build a great search engine was is with unobtainable amounts of search data and Google's made sure no one else has that besides themselves which no the CEO of Microsoft is like yes please let me buy that data um and then what's also funny is kind of related to Microsoft is I hate it during the trial the head of product from OpenAI mentions that they would be interested in purchasing Chrome if it were to go on sale which now is very funny cuz is their boss not in the room with them who makes SA's like you what you would what shame if something happened to our investment i just thought that was so funny and also please God no open AI don't buy Chrome yeah wow yeah speaking of antitrust suits another one let's keep the good times going dj uh Apple and Meta just got hit with really big DMA antitrust fines if you remember the European Union basically went after Apple and Meta and were basically like you cannot do these things the big thing for Apple was third party app stores was a major thing where Apple eventually complied but they did so in the most malicious compliance way possible to the point where it basically penalized you a ton if you were willing to put your app on a third party app store in the European Union uh and made it like worse for most people so uh the EU is not happy about that malicious compliance and they find Apple $570 million for violating the the uh DMA which is crazy uh and it says that has 60 days to basically remedy this so that's that's not too good for Apple we'll see what's what happens there they're probably going to have to get rid of all of that jargon and just fully open it up without any consequences uh it'll be interesting to see if Apple actually complies with that the EU is actually also uh not happy with Meta for a very similar reason it was charging Facebook and Instagram users to either pay a subscription fee to like get rid of all of the ads that were being shown there or they could use their personal data um to kind of like have ad supported versions on the platform mhm and meta solution was to in the EU was to allow free users to see fewer unskippable full screen ads uh but the EU is not too happy about that either so both of them got hit with huge fines apple's fine was 570 million metas-fine was about half that but they could basically be continue they could continue to get fined fairly regularly unless they fix these issues within 60 days it's crazy to think 570 million is a gigantic fine yet we just talked about them paying about 30 times that a year to Google doesn't feel like such a big fine that's crazy yeah so I mean most of these companies will take the fines if it means they're making more money by doing the thing they're not supposed to do that's just generally how it works because the fines are just not big enough to actually be real deterrence mhm uh this seems quite a bit bigger 570 million that they have to pay right now they're going to appeal it obviously but that seems like a a bigger deterrence than they usually get hit with so we'll see how that plays out this is like when you see like a Ferrari parked in like a do not park thing and it just has like four tickets on a dash like I don't care it's more convenient for me to be parked illegally yeah wow um and then last little thing about companies giving large sums of money to other companies uh it came out that Google pays an enormous amount of money to Samsung to have Gemini pre-installed on its phones this does not shock me at all yeah yeah they seem to be very close partners in a lot of ways yeah so yeah yeah i mean at the Pixel event they literally showed Gemini on the Galaxy S24 Ultra at Google IO they regularly demo exclusive features on on Samsung phones they'll probably do it again this year we knew that they had a very close partnership but it seems like it's been getting closer and closer and now we have uh actual evidence that they've been paying them a lot of money so apparently Google has been paying Samsung an enormous amount of money since January monthly to have Gemini pre-installed on Samsung's phones so that would probably be around the announcement of the S25 series uh it also gives Samsung a percentage of revenue earned from advertisers in the Gemini app i have never seen an ad in the Gemini app me neither so I'm not really sure what that means yeah it could be a future thing it could be a future thing i know um but the judge actually ruled that this violates antitrust law and is hearing testimony to figure out what Google will have to do to remedy the behavior so Google's not in the best situation this coming out in the middle of this antitrust thing happening feels like the start of the search engine they're just doing it with AI instead yeah you know what I just thought of what open AAI has been working on this search product maybe if Google Careful Mark careful if Google wasn't paying Samsung Samsung would just like switch it to Open AI this says they had offers from OpenAI and Microsoft as well yeah so maybe maybe in a world today where uh Google stops paying Apple to be the default search engine in Safari open AI is like Yeah I want that deal i want to be the search well you know what's funny is like Safari kind of got dumber when they added not Safari the Siri sorry Siri kind of got dumber when they added the OpenAI integration gpt GPT integration there's been like multiple cases that people post online of like "Hey Siri what day of the week is it?" And it'll be like "Do you want me to ask Chat GBT for that?" Yeah it's it's literally the Bixby April Fools video we did where it's like "I can't answer it i'm literally going to ask someone else." Yeah we were ahead of our time with that joke we were yeah so again sorry my I just want to say my chat GPT experience lately it's few and far between and it has been miserable every time every time it's like hey can you do this thing and I'll do it do it do it and then I'll be like can you do one more that's against our policy why is it against your policy for this reason cool do it without that reason that is against our policy perfect example i was like trying to explain to Tim a thumbnail I wanted to make and it was just this idea of typing on a keyboard and the keys are flying all over the place okay so it did a pretty good job at creating that and then I said "Can you make this in look like a YouTube thumbnail?" And it throws the YouTube logo on and some text that looked terrible i said "Can you please take that off and change the text to this?" And then first it says "You've run out of requests for today because I don't have pro please come back in 24 hours." That was Friday i come back Monday i ask it to remove it it says "Uh you've run out of requests." And it's had to do that three times i said "That was three days ago i'm past the time limit it said you're right and then it and then it said let me try to do that generating image and it said this is against our policy so I said why and it said there was a logo involved in it and they can't do anything with logos so I said you put the logo in in fact I'm asking you to take it out said whoa you're right i did I did put that in and you are just asking to put that take it out what should I let me get get on with that and then it says generate an image says that is against our policy and then I just gave up i'm like not doing this anymore so yeah that was my last Chach GPD experience wow it's terrible that sounds horrible if only you had a Samsung phone that you could just If only I had an image playground yeah then you can make a cartoon all right uh yeah okay well we we will take another quick break we do have of course our trademarked Have we trademarked it our tra I mean just kidding yeah pending our patent pending final segment uh last of the month called Crown or Clown and Clown crown and Clown so uh we're gonna get to that after the break but of course we should do one more round of trivia okay trivia trivia question two twitter announced a public verification system in what year asterisk it was discontinued that same year because they received too many requests a publication but when did they launch it the public one oh like how you can request it publicly just being able to request or like Oh is that where there's like a verified account and you had to like what happened like we got too many people requesting form we don't have that many employees in the settings there was like a form you could fill out yeah yeah oh wow i didn't know about that i was verified after it shut down somehow oh nice oh really yeah because there was still a this person's impersonating me like form and I filled that out and then they were like oh we're just going to verify it i got verified like 2 weeks before they made it paid and I was like well there goes that oh really and then everyone was like look at this loser check that's funny and then you had to pay to put it Oh no I did not pay they just removed that yeah all right all right well we'll think about it answers at the end we'll be right back support for the show today comes from Notion organization is one of the first steps to creating quality work and there's no shortage of helpful AI tools to help you streamline your workflow but using them might mean switching back and forth between other digital tools so instead of simplifying your workflow it actually ends up becoming more complicated unless of course you're using Notion notion combines notes docs and projects into one space that's simple and beautifully designed and you can do all of that while taking advantage of their in-house AI powered tool Notion AI notion AI is fully integrated it's all built in and it helps you work faster write better and 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we need to um be a little more streamlined of this and we're working on it which probably means we won't be but nice one hour later I will pitch I think the crown of April is the Nintendo Switch too that's what I was going to say it's really hard not to say it as much as people gave it crap for pricing and there's been some delays I still really think they delivered on the majority of the things yeah my argument is and I'm very it's the thing I'm the most excited about this have they because it's not even out yet what if it's just a break i mean we will see announced it's always been for June it actually hasn't been delayed on delivering yet yet no no i know but I mean like what if we get it and it sucks well okay they could still screw up the cuz they said they fixed the stick drift but it's not Hall effect so I don't know if I fully believe them on that but a lot of the other things were good minus pricing and some of the game card keys but also like and I didn't know this apparently a lot of Xbox and PlayStation games have been doing this for a long time without the physical key it's just a download code inside the box so this is a better version of that i totally agree because you can sell them and trade them and whatever later so I think they did a good job digital Foundry did a very indepth uh thing about the switch to that they put out two days ago and I would recommend going to look at that they have a bunch of videos and also writeups about it that is a long article it's super in-depth and they have a bunch of they have videos for like every portion of it which is it generally it's generally quite positive yeah they're saying the performance is like way better than they expected and yeah so interesting it's generally very positive all right David what's your crown well it was supposed to be switched too i mean it still can be switched to cuz we have to agree anyways yeah we have to agree so you could just double up if you want i'm not saying it's good cuz I don't know cuz I've never even touched it that's what I'm saying but I do think it is only one person in this room has touched it i have touched it thanks for clarifying what What other positive things have happened this month nothing literally nothing i have something yeah mark what what's yours okay well I have two one of them is not really a thing one of them was a Volvo EX90 which we reviewed this month but uh it's not didn't come out this month so it's probably not going to win okay um but I did find something else nice car uh in the month of April scientists at Z Jang University and the University of Cambridge built much much smaller individual pixels on an LED display record-breaking amount actually uh they achieved the smallest pixels ever at 90 nm wide you would know about this and it's hard to explain how small 90 nm is but they've been working on this over and over again and shrinking down and down the pixels over and over uh but this 90 nm wide pixel achieved a pixel density of 127,000 pixels per inch which is pretty sick um virus size obviously pixels it makes oil paintings look pixelated is how they described it now obviously there's a lot there's a lot of challenges that come from having pixels that small from you know drivers brightness to whatever all these other things um but I just want to emphasize how small those individual pixels are if a human hair was a skyscraper a 90 nm object would be a single floor tile floor tile not floor thickness floor tile but like is the floor tile standing up or human hair sideways skyscraper well how what what length of human hair it's the question of the width of a human hair the width of a human hair is a skyscraper holy crap another way of looking at it if a red blood cell were a soccer ball a single pixel would be a grain of sand wow that one seems not as crazy yeah but a red blood cell you have to know how small a red blood right cuz I see blood but I don't know how big this red blood cells are pretty small compared to a single hair thanks a pool yeah I don't know so anyway yeah 127,000 pixel per inch display is my crown of the month hold on i just want to say you guys said it can't be the Switch 2 because I haven't seen it yet and then you bring out this like science breaking lab only no no i'm saying you guys said it to me no no no i don't think that's a I don't think the rule has to be you have to have seen it cuz we've had previous crowns that are things we haven't seen i'm I agree i never said you had to have seen it i said it had to be out this is in a lab yeah it's out yeah it includes one of them exists okay I see your point Andrew and I'm choosing to ignore it somehow someone can get us access to making a video on that though that would be just saying I'm pretty sure we would do that microscopes yeah electron microscopes i'll drop a link in the in the Slack so you guys can think cuz it's pretty the ultimate problems speaking of Slack I'm going to tell you what Ellis's crown is for the month he discovered that there are now HDR emojis in Slack this is This is This is not a crown my friend he thinks it's a crown it is not HDR emojis it looks horrible if you're scrolling through on Slack you'll see a regular emoji and then you'll see a very bright spot on your screen which is the other one it looks broken post it i'm going to put it in can you please It's in the waveform it just looks broken jesus it's like glowing on yours yeah I think it's cuz I'm in dark mode on Slack you're scrolling i just I feel like I'm blinking and seeing it in my It's definitely an SDR on my computer which I'm happy about wow yeah so that's saying that he likes scrolling through Instagram under his under his blanket and just getting blinded randomly in the middle of the night this is his crown this is his crown that's what I said that's what I said he thinks this is awesome okay well I don't I think this I think they should be eligible for the clown does he have a clown separately this clown is It's going to be something amazing no it's basically Apple getting dinged for the uh removing the Apple intelligence coming soon part oh yeah yeah that's a clown it's hard to tell he said that's his clown that's a good thing well that they had it up in the first place fair interesting i asked Gemini what are the best things that happen in consumer technology in April 2025 and it said the Apple M4 chip launched which is not It did not launch this month the Bard upgrade bard upgrade that might be April gemini 3 years ago Gemini literally called itself its old you're asking Gemini which is what Bard was and it said "Yeah the Bard AI platform received an update integrating the more advanced Gemini 2.0 models." AI travel planning wow this is horrible none of these are true sick so I love AI at this point for Crown we're reduced to the Switch 2 or the groundbreaking 127,000 pixel per inch display or the HDR emoji imagine the HDR emoji on on that display crisp crisp cooked eyes cooked vectors I would say what about the Beats cables that was one of those mid things that happened that we forgot about within 30 seconds of it happening but I thought you said it was the biggest story of the year oh I did say that didn't I i was lying damn elephant in the I thought you were serious i mean it's hard to vote against i feel like every time I just give up on my answer but how about it is a pretty cool screen i have a question okay all those pictures look like they were green pixels only can the pixels change colors don't worry about it if it's green only what do you mean green only i don't know are they green how about article up oh okay never mind david was looking at something else what about Sam Alman potentially buying his own company clown you already said yours yours is the Switch yeah it's the Switch too okay i think it's the Switch too come on it's probably It's like the biggest it's the most talked about thing this month which okay doesn't necessarily mean it's that isn't negative yeah there was a lot of negative stuff about it but I think some of it was blown out of proportion yeah and some of it's totally reasonable criticism all right I'll fold i'll I'll go I'll go switch two let's go let's go point for Andrew what is the clown then i The clown tariffs reciprocal tariffs they came out the same day actually clown and the clown came out the same day i was going to go Blue Origin PR Stone oh never mind i lose actually I think that's it i think that's it that was my clown what about um 23 and me selling their data going bankrupt has it happened yet oh did it get sold that was last year but that was last month i know but remember last month we were like April club it's like the buyer could be horrible but it's Yeah they haven't sold yet okay cool perfect so yeah we I think Blue Origin is the best one i think Adam's got one but it's a hard one to top okay so my clown then is something that I just realized yesterday which is that my phone number has been tied up in iMessage for like two months now since I switched to the Pixel so you you've missed a thousand so Ellis texted me and on Slack he's like "Yo I texted you." And I'm like "No you didn't." And then it I saw it pop up on the messages app in my computer and then when I opened that up there was like 30 missed messages and I was like how is this still a problem how are we still dealing with this this is along the lines of that tech question I had maybe two or three weeks ago which is like the RCS thing not working on my phone which I think on the iPhone you have to turn off i did you do i didn't do it on my laptop which is a separate thing and that's why it all went to my laptop that's why I still carry two phones did you figure it out i haven't figured it out but it has gradually started working with more and more threads interesting i've seen a lot of suggestions of similar issues i know you said you tried some of them but there were people some of them were like "Oh I tried a You had to like sign out and then like restart your phone and then all this." Yep no I I went through the comments i tried basically everything everyone was suggesting and nothing was working and then a couple days later I tried an RCS message to someone I usually RCS message and it worked and I was like "Oh oh RCS." And then I tried another thread and it's like SMS adam that's crazy because like Ellis and Brandon must also have had their iMessage things like mess up because they never respond to me either so Brandon was one of the people that I had gotten a message from him like 3 weeks ago and then I had to reply like "Sorry can can you resend all this because it's stuck on my computer now." Very annoying i didn't text you so yeah you never text me i just try Telegram yeah which is terrible clown that's the clown that's the world david still using telegram these problems that you were both having you know all I do is get a bunch of fake spam messages every day so I like it that way are we in agreement crown is switched to clown is Blue Origin I think that's how Yeah that's April 2025 right there yeah yeah there's April oh that's pretty we should do a a year-long calendar at the end of the year that's a calendar and it has crown and clown from every month we'll collect them all gotta collect them all june is probably also gonna be switched to switch to too switch to to the switching we'll see how June goes either way hey that's been it we should do the trivia questions oh yeah trivia dude okay let me not 127,000 pixels per inch per inch insane okay the sphere in Las Vegas is about to about to shutter imagine the sphere in Las Vegas at 127,000 ppi in HDR no it would it would look the space would look like this slack HDR the sphere in Las Vegas looks like an HDR emoji from a plane the rest of the city is kind of dim and there's just a blasting one in the middle it also has emojis on it on the sphere that's exactly that's what it is it's an HDR emoji i was in a hotel in Vegas a couple months ago and I opened my windows in the morning and it was just the giant emoji staring back at me so that's all right so these are all Google services grabbed from the Google graveyard which one of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interest it lasted 11 months and it lasted 11 months a Grasshopper B streams C poly or D shoelace wait what is it a Grasshopper no no what's the question again oh which of these was an app that was used to find group activities with others who share your interests i'm so mad that I changed my answer which means the first one was definitely right whenever I do that I just cross it out so that the world knows that I actually thought the right answer nice okay okay different answers here all right who wants to go first i don't know the answer so I can guess i said uh grasshopper grasshopper incorrect that's what I had at first andrew and I both put shoelace you both put shoelace well I put D was that shoelace yeah it was okay yeah cuz you go you got to lace up your shoes to go do an activity well is that why you thought That's why I thought it right it's to find new activities so I'm going to go do my activity with my friend lace i sort of remember this launching cuz it was only a couple years ago right um 20 Wait let me find it one second also what was option in 2020 it shut down yeah okay also what was option A grasshopper grasshopper what was B streams what was C pololly yeah okay what was D grasshopper is a thing in Google he said they're all things not anymore they were all things but now they're all dead oh well at least I got the point all right question two nothing about this shoelace app screams Google at all really yeah it looks like it was made in um Canva yep it does no it literally does that's the worst thing you can say it looks like you made this in this episode sponsored by King that would be really funny they probably did make it in camera oh god okay twitter announced the public verification system in what year the public verification system the PV and then they got flooded with requests and they shut it down that same year oh my pen is like not working at all but here just do this yeah here i'll write over it i'll give you an extra point if you get the month ooh okay okay all right flip them and read what do we got i am once again guessing okay i went way later than both of you oh we'll go in order i guess June 2012 incorrect are we just closest here or uh sure sure let's do closest delta okay i did March 2014 march 2014 nope wow i did June 2021 june 2021 what wrong one incorrect i think you were thinking of Elon's verification when did he buy it 2021 was it 2021 or was it 2022 i thought it was very close before he bought it is when they added that form that was like I am blank blank that's when they brought it back this is the first time they was thinking that the correct answer was July 2016 so David gets the point 2016 wow that's late huh that is late i knew I was thinking of the second one i thought I got verified after I started 15 you probably got verified before the public request was open cool yep all right that was it quick update on the score marquez 18 Andrew 9 David 21 david you can legally drink now let's go i'm older you're older than the oldest YouTube video that's right that's right or not older also more points yeah the day this goes live I'll be 10 years older than Oh yeah everyone say happy birthday to David woo happy birthday if you made it this far if you made it this far then you know when David's birthday is officially dust drop your comments below in between all the which language do you prefer the dub to be comments we appreciate both of those say happy birthday in a different language do it oh that's cool yeah for these yeah uh but yeah we'll be back of course in May that's the next month may is that true may we already know we What about April 30th oh wait but they'll not see us until May until May they won't see us till May so we'll see you in May it's going to be May uh etc etc appreciate y'all thanks for subscribing thanks for watching thanks for commenting catch y'all in the next episode peace wave from produced by Adam Molina and Ellis Roven we're partner with Vox Media Podcast Network and Entertain bingo all right the Human Torch was denied a Nintendo Switch 2 pre-order down