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Insights from LFX Mentorship with Akanksha

Hey folks, hope you are enjoying my tech podcasts and today we have another pro person in open source domain. So she is Akanksha Rani and we will be having a lot of chats with her regarding LFX mentorship. So yeah, let's get started.

Hi Akanksha, welcome to my podcast episode. Hope you are having a great new year. Hi Sajjan, happy new year to you as well and everyone watching.

I hope you also had a very good new year. Yeah, okay. So would you like to introduce yourself to the audience? Yeah, sure.

So hello everyone, myself Akanksha and I'm currently a pre-final student. Refinery student at Indira Gandhi Delhi Technical University for women and I'm currently pursuing a B.Tech in Electronics and Communication Engineering with specialization Artificial Intelligence and I'm an upcoming Software Engineering intern at Microsoft and I have been a LFX mentee in 2023 and it was a six months internship and I've gained a lot of open source exposure because of that and that's what our podcast today is all about. Within that, I am a very huge AI and ML enthusiast. I have written a lot of papers in there in, you know, ML and I've really enjoyed my ML journey throughout my college and throughout my internship journey as well. Well, that was a great introduction for a third year straight to the agenda.

The audience would like to know what exactly is LFX mentorship? Okay, so LFX mentorship is basically an... open source program just like we have gsoc just like we have outreach mlh and all these programs are there and people know about it but lfx is one of the program which is not uh as much as known you know it is not very famous not very popular uh but yeah open source people do know about it like we have a lot of influencers like kunal gushwaha and other people who are promoting lfx and all but still a lot of people don't know about it and lfx is basically uh and program you is a program which is introduced by Linux Foundation.

Linux. Linux is our, you know, everyone knows about Linux. It's an operating system and it's very famous in corporate world. It's used extensively, right? So, Linux Foundation is an organization, basically, which is introduced by Linux and under which we have a lot of organization, partner organization, which are responsible for open source.

which to create open source environment and provide students with open source experiences and i'll tell you more about the organization later on but yeah that's all about linux foundation when i was applying for this lfx mentorship i also heard about some other mentorships like lfn and cnca but when i went to the their web pages they all finished at the same website so what's the mystery behind this actually Okay, so yeah, that is a problem that every first time beginner, you know, faces when they first come to the LFX mentorship site. So what happens is LFX is the mother organization of a lot of organizations, right? So the program, the organization which I contributed to was Hyperledger.

Hyperledger is a blockchain based organization under LFX. Just like that, we have... many other organizations just like cncf which is one of the most popular organization of lfx cncf stands for a cloud native computing uh foundation it is one of the organization which postures a cloud uh cloud environment and give exposure to you know cloud enthusiasts and hyperledger is one of one for blockchain like just like that we have open frame we have intel also and there are a lot of organization in there which are in you know or Linux terminal and like lot and lot of them which are there under Linux foundation. So basically Linux foundation is the mother organization of all these organizations which work under them and we apply when we go to the site we see projects from all these organizations they are mixed together so that a first time a person who is visiting the site for the first time he gets to he or she gets to know about all the programs and all the projects. and all the organization all together he does not need to you know go separately to another site for another organization that's the thing so i hope the audience has got the point clear like it's a roof the lfx is a roof and all the other organizations hyperledger cnc are like children under that roof and all the projects are systematically listed at one place you don't have to go here and there for that to the next question what is the eligibility criteria for this lfx mentorship okay so one of the best things that i like about lfx is the eligibility criteria is not limited you know even a first year student even a second year student and even a graduate or a working professional can also you know take parts participate in the lfx journey so uh it's not something like that if you are in you know first year so you won't be get you won't get in it's not like that they just see the skills that you are proficient in and based on that you are eligible for other like for detailed eligibility criteria like for the age range and all you can definitely check out the site in the resources i will provide uh you and you can find them in the description and that would be more convenient for you yeah okay and also that means like some person who has some gap in his career can be a part of this LFX mentorship and actually get the experience when he or she is not actually working for some corporate company yeah that is one of the major things that you know you just wake up tomorrow after an year and you can apply in LFX that's the thing you do not need to you know be a very it's very user-friendly it's what you know people who are new to open source who have just who have just got some trigger in their open source journey and they want to start in something new definitely they are proficient in technologies but for you know getting into open source lfx one of is one of the best programs because it does not limit you to like that you have to be a pro person you have to be a you know expert in that field you just you can just be a beginner just that make sure the technologies you are you know applying to is good enough for that project.

One more question that audience would be having like what's the difference and similarities with GSOC which is the most overhyped this opportunity in open source. Yeah so yeah I really like this question because I myself have contributed to GSOC this is like 2023 only I was not selected though so in GSOC basically the things are you know application process is different definitely just that you know when i contributed to gsoc i realized a lot of stuff that you know the environment there is a bit difficult and it it is a bit it is bit difficult to get in there right but in lfx everything is very uh user friendly like if i'm a beginner i can understand the process very well just that i need the right person to guide me you have to you have to you know talk to some people who have been part of lfx then you it will be very easy for you but when i contributed to uh gsoc i contributed in a very big organization known as tensorflow and ml people must be knowing about it so uh it had a lot of projects in there and there are a lot of things that happen in gsoc that projects get cancelled out if the mentor is not there and all this stuff so i myself have faced this problem so i can understand the problems uh that you know as a gsoc contributor that they had and when you compare them it is very uh in that perspective lfx is very good In application perspective, in GSOC, you just have to write one proposal based on your past contributions and your plan and all. But in LFX, you do not need to give a weekly plan.

That's not the thing. You have to write a cover letter. Cover letter is very important because based on that, only you are judged. And there are some essay questions which are also very important along with the resume. So three major things are there in LFX resume, cover letter and the essays.

Based on these three topics. people are selected in LFX and in GSOC you just need to provide your you know proposal based on that you are selected so that is one more difference and the third difference is in GSOC we have a diverse range of organization which are part of GSOC but in LFX we have you know a set of organization which are always there and like which take part even though they're adding a lot of organization year by year but you know the limit is not as like the variety is not as gsoc there is a limit in there so that is the third difference and most of the things as an open source contributor i find it very similar that you have to you know contribute to the repo and all if i'm contributing to a code project and one more thing is there that in lfx you have non-code projects as well not everything is technical in gsoc we have very less non-non-tech projects as compared to lf that is the one more difference and yeah that's all i can remember for now The most awaited question, what is the statement that people get in this mentorship program? Yeah, so definitely everything comes to money in the right.

So, in G-SOC, we have, you know, the range is from around 3000 to 6000. In India, it's around 2000 something. But in LFX also, there is a range that depends on country. So, for India, it is $3000. If you choose to part-time, oh, I forgot to mention that earlier. So, basically, in LFX, we have one more option that is not there in G-SOC.

We have one part-time. internship that is for six months and one full-time internship that is for three months stipend is same just that the workload will be very easier for you to manage with college so that option is not there in g-soc so in lfx we have two kinds of program that is part-time and full-time in part time we have three months of a whole cohort and in a full time we have six months of cohort so the stipend is based on your you know whether it's six months or three months the stipend is same that is three thousand dollars for india but for other countries it goes it goes up to $6,600. So that's the stipend range, $3,000 to $6,600 according to the country PPP.

And coming to the most important part of this video, the future aspirants would be waiting for this. So let's start talking about the application process, how one should apply and what's the entire process behind this. So the whole application process is not very difficult, just that you have to go along with it. You cannot leave in between. A lot of people, they just take some break when they are into open source.

But if you want to get into the program, you just have to be very active throughout. So the first step is you have to go to the LFX mentorship site. you have to invest a lot of time in finding organization and project.

Like not organization, I would say, because in LFX, all the organizations are mixed in there, right? It's not like one organization is there. So everything is mixed in there.

So you basically have to find the right project. You should not care about what is the organization if the project matches your tech stack. Like I am a front-end developer and my tech stack is React, JS, HTML, CSS. If I find a project that fits in there and no matter of which organization...

organization it is you should go and apply right so you'll find the organization first process first step is that then after that you'll uh you have maximum three uh proposals to offer right you can only write up to three proposals more than that you cannot apply to and they can be of any organization not limited to one organization right so you can uh apply in one cncf one hyperlager one open stream it depends on you just that only three projects So, this happens, then you know, once you are enrolled in the program, then you are assigned with some tasks. So, tasks means like basically uploading all the stuff that I told, resume, essay and cover letter. Those are the tasks.

Yeah. So, in that, first of all, your resume is there, right? And in resume, what you have to do is, you have to prepare a resume with a very good template. That is very important.

Because my resume was very good. So I feel that that is also one of the factors that I got in because my resume had stuff that is very important and you know shows my... So make sure that you have a very good resume with technical experiences or technical projects based on the project you are applying to.

And this is a very important line you should you know I'll repeat that again. you know your resume should have technical experiences or technical projects that are in the domain of the project you are applying to that is very important why because if someone sees your resume and like i'm a mentor of that project and i see that so definitely i'll feel that that you are more experienced than someone who has no experience in that right so uh that is the stuff and uh we have you know uh essay essays are very important essay play play a very major role in that because essay has 2-3 questions and they are not very difficult they are not very difficult just that your way of answering is like if you answer it and just brag about things that you haven't done in life definitely they get to know about it do not go chat GPT that I would say definitely because at my time I did not had chat GPT right when I applied to so that was also a thing so I had chagripti, I'm sorry, but I did not use that much, you know, it was just introduced in there. So not very proficient. So I did not use it. So I wrote it myself.

So that was a thing. So do not use chagripti, write true things and true experiences in the essays. You can even get the essays reviewed by LFX mentees, past mentees.

And if a mentor reviews it, that's also very good, but it's like, not really, you know, possible because usually mentors are, you know, they have time constraints. Yeah, so that's the thing. So you can get it reviewed from past mentees like I am a past mentee now. You can get it reviewed from me or you can just search up LinkedIn and you can just send them and they definitely will help you out. Okay, so you can get the essays reviewed, even the cover letter.

So the main part comes to the cover letter. So cover letter is very important because in cover letter, you have to mention all the things that you have done till now, right? So and that is related to the project, right?

You will give two to three lines. lines which are introduction introduction to yourself right after that you'll tell about the technical uh experiences and technical work that you have done in that domain in the project you are applying to right if the project project has front-end thing mention about some major project that you have done in there in that domain or you know something that is extraordinary not not a normal thing right so mention about everything and that's one page thing so you have to be very wise while writing it and uh now coming to one of the key factors that decide your selection is you know your past open source experience also in so what happened is i had like i didn't know about it because i did not get my essay reviewed just that i felt that you know i should show up my past github contributions so what i did was i added some of my prs past prs like which were in the same technical domain in open source contribution only my so i just added the links of those prs so that it shows the proof that i have been a an active open source contributor beforehand too so that's the thing you can do in in the cover letter for school especially for the code based projects you should do that and for the documentary documentation based projects because i had applied to one for that you can add research papers if you have written that is also one of more one of the things that decide so research papers why i said because research paper in my case my research papers player played a very important role because my interviewer asked about it like wow like he said she said that you know you have a publish in ieee that's a very big thing so if i if i'm applying to a document documentation based project they look up to technical writing right so technical writing involves writing research papers writing technical blogs all these stuff so add links of your blogs technical or technical papers and anything that is related to that project right so do not make sure that you know do not write something that is irrelevant to the project you're applying to Make sure that you limit yourself to the project. Do mention your extraordinary experiences, extraordinary achievements as well. But do not use a lot of space in there for that, right?

Because the interviewer needs to see that if you are good enough for that, like their project or not. So that's the thing that you should keep in mind. And other than that, there might be some of the points that, you know, once you write the essay after that, and if you get it reviewed, the... person who is living here he or she will also tell you about few things that he or she will interpret from your cover letter and one question i forgot to ask like how many times this opportunity opens up in an year so basically it goes on throughout the year i would say just that the program matters like you know like there's a term for uh every like there are basically two terms for six month internship right One will open right now, like from 15th January, the application would be open for the first term, right? And the second term is in June or July.

That's the time period. So, for part-time internship, six-month internship, these are the terms. Other than that, some of the organizations who do full-time internships, so they take up to three months.

Like it can be September to November. It can be January to March. It can be, you know, any three months, right? So that you have to check up on the site like if you go on the LFX site you will see that it's mentioned the term is mentioned in there. So everything depends on you like in which time you're comfortable.

It's not like you know all other open source program open in summer vacations only if you have seen like the major ones. GSOC, Outreachy, MLH most of them are in the spring after you know like our summer vacation period. LSX is not constrained to that. It has its own terms. It has its own range.

So that depends on your ability, your flexibility. Okay. So after submitting the cover letter, how much time does it take for the interview calls or emails to come?

And what's the depth up to which the interviewer asks about your technical aspects or knowledge? About the interview process. So, you know, you have to be...

very patient throughout the lfx journey because uh i was very panicked also because you know it takes time it's not like interview call will come next day like it can be at the last day like there is a time limit of 15 days for the interview calls like i remember my time so i my interview that like my application deadline was 15th of july and after that uh the 15 days uh 15th of june i'm sorry and 15 days were for the interview calls like from 15 july to 38 june 15 june to 38 june will get the interview calls so i waited and waited for a very long time then i get around 10 around 10 days later i got you know the message from my mentor through linkedin sometimes it's not even the mail so that you should be very active active uh person right many people don't check linkedin that's why you know i i am checking linkedin every moment like you also saw me like you know i just checked my linkedin so that's why you should be very active on your linkedin because sometimes mentor approaches you there so uh she like she just sent me the you know uh the timeline and the calendar in there so that's the thing and you know sometimes it might happen that you don't get a call to like you know if you're not shortlisted you won't get called and sometimes it might happen that you will get selected without the interview so okay it's it happens it happens yeah but like it's not like that you'll be get you'll get selected randomly you uh i'm telling you i'll just tell you the why why is it like that so basically lfx also has a contribution like you know there is a time like in g-soc we have this contribution period but in lfx uh we have this you know one month of calls uh right in one month of calls is there before the application deadline right around one to one or one to five months of calls regular calls are there so these calls are very important why because you know you'll get to know about project more you'll get to know about the environment of the projects all these stuff uh you know you get to know through these calls right So as I said, that mentor can approach you at any, you know, social platform. So be active on your LinkedIn, on your mails, on your, you know, any social account that you had given at the time of the application. So after that, you'll join, you know, in the interview thing, basically in my interview, what happened is because I was already joining in the call. So in the LFX site only, we have this calendar mentioned.

If you go to the site, you'll see there is and you know, and it's open. It's not limited that anyone like anyone can attend those calls. That's the thing in there. So it takes place every week, like one once, once, like one day every week. And you can join in calls of your, you know, of the preferred project.

And it's like calls of the project that that are open now. Like, for example, at my time, my project was hyperledger onboarding. and there was one more project hyperledger documentation so i had contributed to two projects all together i got selected in one right even though the project i actually contributed the most and i was not selected in there i was selected in the second one which in which i had contributed but not as much as i did in my first project so what happened in there that you will you know apply to the portal first step then you will go to the interview side and then in the interview you know when the interview takes place everything is normal because if you're already a part of the calls so the interviewer knows you and basically these interviewers are mentors right okay these interviews are mentors and there can there can be a panel too not only mentors so it depends on the lfx you know on them only like who will sit on the interview so it can be anyone uh so what happens is that they will uh ask you firstly they'll just ask the introduction and then since if they're already knowing you through the calls then it will be an edge for you so that's why you should definitely go and check the calendar i'll share the link of that as well and because you know it opens up once the projects are live so right now the calendar for 2024 is not there it will come on 15 january yeah then you can check it out so after After that what happens is they will talk about your resume. Definitely, they will see your experiences and all.

They will ask about your projects. If you have done any publications and you have applied to a documentation project, then they will see that you have technical writing experience. If you have applied to some front-end thing and they see that you have some front-end experience prior. So, they will definitely...

be impressed with your resume now comes you know your cover letter so they read your cover letter definitely and they they know about you right with your cover letter so based on that they can ask you a lot of questions and other than that if you have done a previous contribution to that project so uh you know uh that would be a very uh very like it will be the most uh uh like it will be cherry on the cake actually it will be exactly so because you know they would love someone who have who already knows about the project not someone who is you know new to the project so make sure that once the application opens you join in all these calls of the projects that interests you so that you can make a good bond with the mentor right so about the you can even talk to and yeah you should definitely approach the mentors as well right so once the projects are live their mentors are mentioned on the site with their profiles like their linkedin profiles their email and everything is there do not spam in there just write a very small decent and do not write in you know a server map that is prohibited in open source okay So make sure you don't do that mistake because in open source, like, or even in corporate world, we do not mention a lot with sir and ma'am. So just write, like, for example, my mentor was John. You'll just write, Hey, John, then you write that. I like, I am very interested in the project you're mentoring too. And I have these technical skills beforehand and I would like to join, like, like more about it and learn from you.

So if you can, you know, me more like how can i contribute to this project that would be very grateful for you like that write a recent message and just send them send them over their emails or linkedin most of them definitely replies off and if they do not just wait for some time they do most of the time they do okay so that's the thing for the mentors and interview thing uh and yeah that's all about interview process so basically what i can understand is unlike other opportunities very participants actually find very hard to communicate with mentors and get known to them here you have a different kind of scenario like you have the weekly meetups and that actually can help you establish a very good relation with the mentor and frequently communicate and that can give you a head start in your contributions in any kind of the project which is mentioned on the website so that is a kind of hack only so coming to the next question so Would you like to mention about what were your contributions and what was the main tech stack and agenda of your project? Yeah, so my project, so I contributed into three projects, like because you can apply to three, right? And majorly I contributed to two projects. One was hyperledger documentation standards, which was more based on technical writing and, you know, research work on that.

Second was Hyperledger Mentor-Mentee Onboarding Program, which was based on Frontend, UI UX, Golang and Markdown. All these languages were there, out of which I was only proficient in Frontend, like very good in that. Golang was new for me. Markdown was also new for me just that I had an idea about it because I am a very active GitHub user. So I knew a bit about it but I learned about Markdown after getting into the project.

So that's what I said. You do not need to have a pro person for applying to. Just that if you have experiences even in any one of the skill and your experience is good enough.

Like I had made a project in frontend. So that's enough for you to go. And I applied to Documented. documentation standards because I had experience in publishing papers so I have published two papers in IEEE so I had very good experience in there so that's why I also applied in there so uh indeed these two projects I applied and third was Bevel Hyperledger Bevel is one of the very famous projects of Hyperledger but in that I did not do a lot of contribution because I was already summed up with two of them right it was like a lot for me so just I applied in there so that you know you never know what hits up the chance so that's how you did that So in the project I was selected in was Hyperledger Mentor-Mentee Onboarding Program. The main aim of my project was I have to create SEO-friendly frameworks.

I have to create a user-friendly interface for the very good user experience. And I have to make it easier for the people who are coming for the first time in Hyperledger, like whether they are contributors, maintainers. enterprises or business persons right they should get a very easy access to all the resources all the tutorials or all the you know like important material throughout the you know their experience first time experience on the hyperledger side right so that was the thing and my main area contributions were in three parts majorly first thing that i did was i i did extensive research on the uh most popular hyperledger youtube videos uh in past four years because i had to add like i have to integrate them into the hyperledger main website so that part i was responsible for if you can even check out my work and check out the spreadsheet that i have made research like whole there is a whole research sheet in there in that i have like separated and made made a different you know parts for every year and I have like rated everything like which one is more popular with most popular views and what is the relevant stuff in there so all these research work was there and I like after research work I integrated them through markdown and you know golang I used these languages and I integrated them in the hyperledger site after that the second thing I worked upon was the like the basic graphic user interface you So I had worked with Ben and like Ben was basically responsible for the website like front end part of the new Hyperledger website.

So Hyperledger has updated like three to four months back new website is updated in there. So I was working with them for the new design for giving and for the suggestions and all and giving my you know this design. I made a Figma design of whole website and everything. I learned more about.

UI UX I learned using Figma properly because I just had an idea earlier but I got you know with my with the guidance of my mentors I learned a lot of stuff and I made that after that the third thing that I work upon I separated like the people were coming to hyperledger sites into three personas that was business persons maintainer contributors and enterprises so for these three personas I had done a lot of research so that I can add the relevant materials, add the relevant resources, add the relevant tutorials of these three personas in the hyperledger website so that if some person from that particular persona comes up, so it is very easier for him or her to, you know, locate and get to the right place and learn more about it. Okay. So that was like, that was the thing that I did.

Other than that, I have learned a lot of extra skills, you know, like a lot of them, like I learned about Google Analytics, I learned about... frameworks i learned about you know uh there was some like deep stuff in uh research also that i did not had idea about so my mentors were very helpful like uh they told me about because like many like two of them were like professionals in some very big companies one of them was uh financial student only but he was from india and who were from international mentors so like the mix of their skills and you know their experiences have had helped me throughout my journey so this was the work that i did okay and coming to the last question related to your mentorship journey what changes actually it has brought both in your technical knowledge and in your personality development there is a lot that i have to tell you on that because you know uh because I had been experienced in technical aspect I was an open source contributor like I had contributed and mentored in programs like girlship summer of code and then I contributed to gsog then I had contributed to hacktoberfest I had I have also been a maintainer and event organizer there so I had idea about open source but that was that was a very at was at very small level so that's what but that was the reason that triggered inside me like that was the reason which triggered the you know the feeling inside me that I should go for bigger programs like LFX like GSOC like Outreachy so that was the you know there's always a trigger in there so that was the thing because I already had some experience I felt like yeah definitely I should go for a very bigger program so once I got in LFX you know my exposure was the first and the best thing that I got through LFX the international exposure like it is very very much beneficial for a person who is in technical field because you get to know about how people work outside your country right when i worked in their timeline in the mountain timeline or in the eastern time timeline right uh then i understood like how people work in there how people understand you and you know there is a very good understanding that is created between you and the people living outside because it's not just you know when you work with people in your own country they understand a lot of like yeah like it's night time so they understand you know you won't disturb But when I worked like people outside the world, they also tried to collaborate with me and you know, help me throughout my you know, they understood that I'm having time flash. So that teamwork that understandability and you know, that was the thing that I got in there. The very good peer network was also a factor.

I get a very global because only 10 like 15 to 20 people are selected every year in LFX also like for one cohort, only 15 to 20 people are selected. right for one term only these people are selected so meeting people from throughout the world was very good experience like it was virtual because of obviously open source is all about you know virtual stuff so but that is also very big thing for me other than that my confidence like my trouble experiences my communication skills my you know my confidence to speak wherever like anywhere like whether it's an international platform or whether it's a national product platform that also improvised throughout my lfx journey so that was another thing that i learned through and the last part i gained a lot of skills like a lot of languages a lot of technical stuff that i did not ever expected that i would understand like google analytics is something that people do course upon and i just understood with one to two calls with my mentor so that was a thing you know You get to know skills in a very faster way with your mentors because when you take up a course, it takes a lot of time. But when you do practical application, right, of that thing, you understand stuff better. So that was also a thing. So all these things were my learnings from LFX.

The last question of this episode, how has your works in the research field and this LFX mentorship or any other open source contributions? i've actually helped you in microsoft's interview yeah not this interview even in my other rounds as well it has helped so yeah so you know uh as i said that resume is a very important factor in getting into uh like not only in an open source internship but When you go to an IT or MNC, right? So they resume, everyone knows that how important resume is. Basically, resume speaks about yourself at some place.

It puts an image to the recruiter. Resume is the first round of most of the companies that if you're not with a good resume, you get out. Even though you are a CP pro, even though you are a pro person in every coding language, it does not matter if you don't have a good resume, right?

So... like in my resume the things that i actually feel that have helped me to gain an internship in such a big mnc was my past experience in lfx of course because they saw that i have some technical experience uh in some very big organization definitely linux is a very big organization so that thing matters right not only linux but if you have experiences in any past organization which is you know reputed so it definitely plays an important role because they see that this person has some experience in such a big firm like then definitely there will be a boon to our organization so that's the thing that has helped me throughout now talking about technical skills so uh you know uh while doing research work because i am a research enthusiast i'm a completely ml person to be honest i was also planning to not go into software engineering but since i did dsa so i i was like you know i can do that along with so yeah i got in a software engineering internship right So what happened is, so I managed both of the things along with. So for the project part, I made most of the project in ML.

And in my interview also in Microsoft, I was asked all the questions based on my ML and research work that I did. Based on the algorithms, like they deeply asked me. Not like they don't ask you from top to bottom.

They ask you deeply. They go in deep, especially ML projects. They love ML projects, to be honest. The MNCs love ML projects. and that I got from my experience whether it's Google, Microsoft, Adobe or any big MNC, right.

So they like asked questions based on my algorithms I have used and they went through it. After that they saw my publications of course like research work that I published that if you have research work published it shows that you know you are an author of something that is online already. People are reading your work online, right.

So it gives you a your own identity in the whole online world so that's the factor that helps me you know that helped me in getting internship that is also there and other than that my co-curricular activities were also there right i had i'd as i have been a founder of an ai based startup and i like since past four to five years it is so that is that was very important for me because in my hr round my questions were mostly based upon that So make sure that if you have mentioned something in your resume, you're ready to answer 40 to 45 minutes for that single line, because that has happened with me. So do not mention any single thing in your resume, right? Which has anything other than, you know, your own, like your field, like do not fake anything that would, that I would say.

So yeah, that was all about my intern, getting internship into Microsoft. Okay. So thanks Akansha, that was all. I have learned a lot of things and I hope the audience would have also learned. Thanks, Akanksha.

Thanks for coming. Yeah, that was all, guys. Okay, thank you so much, Shrejan.

And I hope everyone learned from whatever I said today. And in case anyone has any doubt, they can ping me on LinkedIn. I will share all the resources with Shrejan to put in the description.

You can get the links of all the applications, all the calendars and everything. And even my blog is there. So, it will help you.

to apply to the to the program i have written a blog in there and i'll also put the description of like the link in the description and in case if you feel that you have any more doubt you can anytime ping me on linkedin i'm a very active linkedin user so i won't disappoint you there so yeah thank you so much for hosting me that it was a very great uh you know it was a great session and talking to you i i hope everyone enjoyed the session okay thanks guys bye signing off Bye.