hello and welcome to another out of spec reviews video and welcome to the Hummer EV this thing rocks but it's crazy and like has a massive battery pack and no efficiency I've been averaging 1.1 miles per kilowatt hour but you just gotta love the excess you know they're not making a ton of these it's really a show piece I would say a Halo product for ultium and so far I've just been truly impressed I just got 400 kilowatts of regen in a hard braking scenario in this thing which is the most I've ever seen by just about 100 kilowatts totally crazy so um what we have here is the Hummer EV this is the double stacked battery pack the biggest the baddest tri-motor version and what I wanted to see was how much does it cost to charge this thing because uh this is really worst case scenario you know when I charge my smart car it cost me a couple dollars at home uh at my electric smart car and it's no big deal a Tesla at a supercharger you're in that mid 20 dollar range this thing has I'm not totally sure on the battery pack capacities I'm gonna have to double check all of this but 212 usable is seemingly where people are honing in and then about 246 to 250 kilowatt hours gross the lights are already going out here before we've even plugged the dang thing in so the Grid's getting ready because we're going from zero to one hundred percent on the Hummer EV I'm not branding this video as a full charging curve analysis I want to really focus on the costs in this video and then I'll have a separate one talking about how it actually charges and compared to its competition and things like that I've just taken the Hummer EV over here I've been pre-conditioning the battery pack and my understanding just from previous charge recordings is this thing's been a little bit difficult to evaluate so let's focus on the cost let's see how many kilowatt hours it takes to fill this thing up of course there's always losses but you have to pay for those losses and the other thing I want to mention is all three of these stations here one two and three those are paid stations this one I just noticed this is EA's worst nightmare this one says complementary session which means I can just plug the Hummer in and it's not going to cost anything now this was a complimentary station a few weeks ago I have no idea why it outputs full power there's nothing wrong with it I've tested it I would have thought they would have gotten rid of it by now but hey this is uh this is like worst case scenario for those guys isn't it we're rolling up with a dead Hummer EV and we're gonna go from zero till it clicks off to full and then take a look at that kilowatt hour number and then we can at least calculate it based off of a bunch of different rates as to what it'll cost to charge this thing now it is a little bit different than home charging because home charging uses AC the losses will be slightly different and perhaps I'll go zero to full on AC charging as well just to see a how long that takes and B uh the losses here but what we have to do is we actually have to drain the Hummer all the way out so let me jump inside I'll show you around it a little bit but no secret I really am in love with this thing this thing rocks thanks to energy Sage powering your Eevee on solar helps you charge it with even cleaner energy and whether you have an EV or not solar can help you save money and help the environment there are even options for renters to switch to a local solar farm and cut their energy bills energy Sage is the number one website to learn about solar and shop for Solar Solutions in their trusted unbiased Marketplace hundreds of pre-vetted solar installers compete for your business ensuring you get high quality Solutions and save 20 to 30 percent compared to going it alone plus it's free to use click on the link in the description to visit energy sage and see what you can save here she is forgive some of the lighting here at Night the Lights are pretty bright on this thing Hummer EV this is the sort of the first edition the moon theme let's jump inside we're pretty low it's predicting 14 miles of range weirdly it doesn't tell you state of charge unless you turn it off I think is that how that works yep there we go six percent state of charge otherwise I don't believe there's anywhere else we can show state of charge but we got to burn six percent says charge Vehicles soon no problem we're down to one mile per kilowatt hour over the last 164 miles but I've been pretty hard on this thing to be honest um so let's crank up the heater it does have a heat pump all GM ultium stuff does have a heat pump and I've seen it pull a maximum of 12 kilowatts off of the heater let's see what we can get this thing up to it spikes heat into the cabin of course and then it seems to level off at around uh yep there's the heater maxed out 12 kilowatts gotta love that seems to Max us I should say level out at around four kilowatts or so I can't wait to film all the videos with this thing we really need to evaluate this not only in the context of the Hummer EV but really in the context of ultium I would say into drive let's not do one pedal I'm actually going to put it in neutral every time I need to slow down and that way we can avoid um stuffing regen into the battery pack so five percent shouldn't take too long this thing does have over 300 miles of range it's a 35 inch tires it's one of the coolest things to drive but I'll have a full driving review on this but let me go drive around drain it out till we're at zero percent then we'll plug it in on that complementary session unit why not level get the free juice if they're giving it and then uh yeah a see how long it takes and B see how much it costs to charge it up I have been pre-conditioning a battery like I mentioned it's no longer available when you get down into the very low battery percentages is what it looks like could be a temperature thing could be a state of charge thing time will tell I literally just got in this thing yesterday and haven't had a chance to film with it until now very interesting here it's showing low so at five percent state of charge it does what the bolt does and it doesn't show you range anymore it says reduced acceleration but that's floored and that's 360 kilowatt output that's more than most cars at Full Throttle oh we got the eater heater to pull 13 kilowatts you can see there's just one little tiny bar flashing right there which means we are at one percent state of charge so I'm just letting this thing drain out it had almost no power I was just like Full Throttle pulling in here so I decided to back it in here run the battery here down of course it's getting cold outside which I'm hoping actually helps with this charging session one of our theories is that the Hummer EV battery pack is actually overheating and some other tests that's just the theory we don't know and it's causing some weird behavior in the charging sessions either way I brought all my GoPros to record this one because on the off chance that this happens to be the perfect charging session then we're good now before we plug in the Hummer EV I just want to make a note that this is not uh what it costs at home to charge again home electricity is and should be much cheaper than DC fast charging electricity although in this case it's actually free so maybe that doesn't always apply but also I think it's worth mentioning that very rarely will you go from zero to one hundred percent out on the road or at least if you do that's really not the most convenient way to charge typically I recommend pulling into fast Chargers between five and yeah right around five percent state of charge between three and eight percent let's just say and then riding that fast charging curve now we're not totally sure how this thing charges I can't tell you when to charge up until but of course in my full charging review I will put all that information in there but again the last bit of the pack the top bit always takes a long time I never recommend going dead to full it's the hardest thing on the battery pack takes the most of your time and it's just clogs up the stations longer too so I always recommend charging just enough to get to the next station where you can then arrive at five percent state of charger so and then do the whole thing again the cannonballing method all right it looks like we lost all bars here I just kicked off of the climate control let's take a look as to what it says one percent well I would say the truck doesn't want to move really uh yeah reduced acceleration no bars I think maybe it doesn't show zero percent like the bolt but it's got nothing on here so I'd say we're completely out I also love this I have it set up perfectly so when I get this mounted I can record the charging session right here on the tailgate how sick is that but we cannot um uh sort of back end math into figuring out how big the usable capacity the battery pack is we can really only do that while draining because there's so many losses when charging at 500 amps or over wow no light in the charge port is there oh yeah there is okay just a pretty dim one but this is also not getting out of the way as much as I would like it to that is like so flimsy BMW I was just driving the i7 the other day like they get the charge port done so right let's get this thing plugged in and get uh get charging I've just plugged it in and yes the truck does not show zero percent it's like the bolt so it was communicating to the Charger zero percent but look at that 335 kilowatts at zero absolutely crazy we've already put three kilowatt hours into this thing just insanely fast charging here fans are rocking so yes let's let this thing charge up see how many kilowatt hours we dump in already up to four we'll analyze the footage and then uh we'll we'll run the cost calculations when we get back home but there you go I'll see you guys probably not tonight probably tomorrow where we will crunch the numbers look at this thing I just love it so much I know I shouldn't but I really do you join me back at home to evaluate some numbers and uh they're getting big we're not talking a few dollar charging session here um but but what I want to do is pull you over here and talk about a the test and then I'll bring you through this little spreadsheet that I created but uh test went really well uh took two hours and 40 minutes roughly to charge I actually fell asleep while it was charging and so um I woke up 15 minutes after it had completed so uh good thing it was in the middle of the night I didn't block any other drivers from it I think actually the first time ever I've left a car plugged in after it's completed very interesting but I was out cold I had the cameras running and I was dead asleep but no climate control I didn't run any accessory load nothing like that it was freezing in there it was wild so um we went again from zero to 100 state of charge now um we delivered to the car out of the DC charging port uh 224 kilowatt hours that's how many units we were charged for by Electrify America the one thing to keep in mind is these are not instrumented uh dated devices so it's possible there are some fluctuations especially on a charging session this big I'd be curious to see what that level of Delta of accuracy is allowable and what what's legal of course because there's going to have to be some legal mandates as to how to build the charging I just don't know to be honest I also want to say that during the 70 mile per hour Highway range test which will probably be tomorrow's video uh spoiler alert yeah I pulled 213 kilowatt hours out of the pack during the range test on a 212 kilowatt hour usable battery pack claimed so I was able to actually get more than what GM said no surprise that we delivered more power to the vehicle than um then we we are able to use there's always losses when charging but seemingly very low losses come over here and I'll show you the numbers just so you can take a look so total usable in the range test 213 kilowatt hours total delivered here 224. it's possible we weren't as low as when I did the range chest when I did the range test the truck was literally dying on the road so that that will come I almost didn't make it back to the charging station so let's say the losses are five to six to seven percent somewhere in there 11 kilowatt hour losses based off of that too low not sure not a huge deal really it was also cold which helps with heat loss it took 152 minutes to go zero to 100. now one point I want to make is this is not the ideal charging session I've done multiple charging sessions after this and have been able to beat this one um but this is going from zero to full which puts a huge stress on the entire system uh and I'm also I'm going to show you this curve as well as the theoretical maximums that I was able to pull as well so come on in let's take a look I've done all of the Electrify America rates and the home rates so if you walk up pay with a credit card this is going to be 96.32 cents before taxes and fees it's actually over one hundred dollars to charge this thing uh which I just think is it's the first production EV passenger EV that costs more than a hundred dollars to charge zero to full now in reality very rarely are you ever going to be doing it in my I don't know many years of driving electric cars I've only probably done it less than 10 times out of necessity but it does happen and it can happen from time to time especially when you're out in the middle of nowhere most likely Hummer EV owners will use the 31 Cent Pass Plus Membership I highly recommend it you front load the four dollars a month and now you're down to about 70 bucks maybe 72 73 dollars with some taxes and fees that seems pretty reasonable I mean we can run the calculations compared to a gas car at gas prices I'll leave you guys to do that on your own this is not a comparison I just wanted to show you what these things cost what's interesting though is when we start getting into the time based charging now this is factoring in from again dead to full but if you maximize the charging speed of the Hummer for example this thing pulls over 300 kilowatts you know it's doing 350 down low 360. we saw over 360 kilowatts on this thing um you're going to be you know by the time you get to 60 you're still about 250 kilowatts if you're at a per minute station especially if you have the Electrify America Pass Plus rate you're 36 dollars it might be like 15 bucks 10 or 15 bucks just to Juice It Up pretty high that's like the cheat code if you own one of these probably significantly cheaper than even home electricity at that point I really think EA needs to bump up there uh per minute pricing I'm not here to promote more expensive charging but I am here to promote hopefully viable business models to charging and pricing like this means that EA certainly is not relying on the consumer to bring in money they're relying on other sources of income or I'm not really sure not my I can't comment I don't know but then let's get to more realistic numbers here national average electricity rate will vary but I just put in 13 cents per kilowatt hour that was the last most recent number I could find and it cost about 29.12 to charge it up we're really lucky here in Colorado in Fort Collins particular it would only cost me about 16 to go zero to full on this thing again the home numbers I'm basing off of the DC charging which probably will have even a bit more losses than home charging although there still are some um so it might actually be even a little bit less expensive than that at home but huge spread of charging the Hummer EV I would say anywhere from as low as free Hummer EB doesn't come with any free charging plans they're actually just give you a 48 amp home on board uh home charger it doesn't even have an 80 amp onboard charger it's only 48 amps which is way too slow for that thing in my opinion um but there you go there you have it tummy review about let's say on the super low end about 10 to 12 dollars for a full charge all the way up to well over a hundred dollars depending on some pricing models I've arrived at DC fast Chargers that are 60 65 cents per kilowatt hour I use one here in Colorado that's 35 cents a kilowatt hour plus 20 cents a minute and if you're and it's a slow charger it's a CPE 250 so the Hummer only gets about 100 kilowatt Peak on there you're really that's an expensive charge at that point 150 170 dollars to charge up the Hummer on that thing dead to full depending on you know again if you're going to 100 or not that's just lots of money added up but um there you go huge spread that's how much it costs to charge the Hummer EV the EA station I went there today it's no longer in complementary charge they must have saw the bill for the Hummer EV charging thanks so much for watching another out of spec reviews video we'll see you tomorrow with the Hummer EV range test foreign