let's bring to the conversation Evie poorus she's a former secret service agent Evie good morning um I want to put up this map of the the farm grounds where this event was held last night so the elevated position where the shooter was set up was about 150 yards from the stage where former president Trump was speaking as a former secret service agent are you surprised that building wasn't better secured so when you do a security plan you've got the the main security right the security par where there's the magnetometers where people are being checked as they're entering the event you have the Outer Perimeter where is when you have an open rally like this you are extremely vulnerable I've done these they're probably the most the most anxious you're ever going to be as an agent because you're trying to secure all of it now the adjacent buildings you do this in urban environment you do this in a rural environment like this you when when you do security plan you lit literally put yourself on stage and then you look out as if you the protect what can I see and if I can see it it can probably see me now for an Outer Perimeter like that typically you will have a local law enforcement presence you'll notice those B buildings and Secret Service works with local police you have to think of the Secret Service like they're the conductor of the orchestra they create the blueprint and design for the security plan they work with State Police they work with local police and then they put in resources and assets so in the typical scenario or the in the in the scenario that one one wishes would have unfolded would you have had perhaps a local official official secure that roof to make sure the roof is clear make sure nobody's in the building and then stand guard there so no one comes in after that clearing so we don't know if they did or did not do this yes but they should have they I would I would presume you should have a local police presence in that area now could you have put somebody on that rooftop you could have the other element is the counter sniper team so as far as we know we see a Twan team from the Secret Service side as we were discussing prior before we started speaking they are looking at everything they have to cover 360 degrees so I know a lot of folks are like how could they not see this I think one of the issues is if it is a Twan team think about what they are consistently covering so local law enforcement definitely but again we don't know if somebody was or wasn't positioned now if there was no coverage there whatsoever that's going to be an issue why wasn't why weren't those adjacent buildings looked like looked at they are very close yes and if there was somebody station there from local law enforcement outside the building where the shooter was as you consider the possibilities how could he have gotten up there so as I look at this and again just from a preliminary assessment without having all the details it seems to me what I would presume before the president goes up on stage they secure the area there's communication essentially are we good to go is he good to get up on stage I would presume that everything was in the clear I would think that nobody was on that rooftop what I suspect and again I'm yeah suspecting that after he got up on stage that's when the shooter took position there's a little bit of a slant at that rooftop also some of the photos show that he's dressed in colors matching that Rooftop in building to camouflage a bit himself so I'm suspecting he took position after president Trump spoke then engaged it's easy in hindsight to say oh why wasn't this done or that done and let's just acknowledge that as we have this conversation but it is interesting because there were eyewitnesses who said they were actually positioned kind of outside the rally but we're just listening and that they saw the gunman up with the rifle flying around they were trying to tell some of the local officials that they saw there is there a way to communicate I mean these are split-second decisions but for example if there had been a state police officer outside on that Outer Perimeter and someone said there's a guy up there with a gun can that message get communicated to Secret Service quickly are they all on the same coms so really what the issue is that person that was trying to communicate were they actually verbally speaking to someone or were they trying to get somebody's attention when you're doing these rallies you're looking at thousands of people how much law enforcement do you have do you have one officer or one law enforcement official to what a thousand and are they able to get that person's attention guys at the end of the day too and I think this is going to come up during the hearing resources money this all cost something so when you're doing these when you're doing these security advances you are negotiating I mean there are times where I've been I need 75 agents and it'll come back it's like you know what we don't have the resources or the funds or we need these folks to be somewhere else can you do it with x amount of people and it's not just the Secret Service it's going to be law enforcement their resources are tapped as well so eie quickly let's talk about the aftermath of the shooting you see the agents Rush the stage keep the former president on the ground then he stands up what do you see in those images as he pumps his fist to the crowd exposes himself again and then moves toward the car so if we just break this down as the shooting is happening we hear the shots being fired president Trump goes down he takes cover and it's also very likely when you look at that Banner there's like this Banner around that stage that tends to be some type of Steel that's thereby designed for an incident like this so that the protecte can hit the ground and take cover we see the Agents come in now from the sides and their job is that's the shift that's what's called the shift they come in and they are the they are the the armor they're the ones who are literally literally going to come around they're going to secure his body the goal is now if any additional shots are fired they take the impact of those shots they bring them back down now you can hear them too if you're listening to the audio you can hear them talking on coms is it clear are we good to go because they want to take him from where he's at and they want to move him to the vehicles you anytime you're open and if we look at previous assassinations or assassination attempts Reagan JFK just the most recent ones always outside right always ly aside issues so they've got them secure once they hear the go you can go so I'm assuming for them to get the go somebody probably told them the threat has been neutralized right you're not going to move unless you kind of know what's going on they pick them up and you can hear the president it's interesting just from a human behavior perspective you hear the president saying where are my shoes where are my shoes a lot of people are commenting on is that an odd thing to say you also have to think about the stress and impact of what just happened and he's just you know it's a kind of like a very human simple thing to think of you can hear on the radio too that they say the shooter is down you know so so clearly they felt that the the threat was neutralized and they could safely move but as as an agent I mean the president now with this iconic Act of defiance holding up his Fist and literally sticking his neck out into the open again but if you're an agent right then and there are you just wishing you could just whisk him off to the car well I saw that and I saw that I can understand why he's doing it from that perspective but from the other perspective I'm thinking we know one shooter is down you don't know if there are other Shooters and then the other thing is when you move him to the vehicles you want to make sure does he have any other shots within him and check him Abie thank you so much hey thanks for watching don't miss the Today's Show every weekday at 11:00 a.m. eastern 8 Pacific on our streaming Channel today all day to watch head to today.com allay or click the link right here