[Music] bam what is it you know what it is it's the blackout the blackout what up sodium right here man the birth of lighter shader brown and welcome back to another uh episode webisode whatever y'all want to call it man this is our platform ryan we call it the blockout podcast shout outs to danny boy resident dj yeah what up y'all make sure you guys hit that subscribe button turn on your post notification bell button so you get notified every time we post a new show guys so today's going to be another dope show we got a very special guest that is very big part of a lot of shades so we're going to take odium the group to higher heights bro i mean i am like i'm honored to have the very first female on the podcast ladies and gentlemen low-key yeah you're right and very unique you might have heard her name once or twice thousands of times in various songs i know including one of ours she has sung hooks on our albums or in our songs i should say and she has also made a mark in the industry even before and i ain't gonna tell her story but i'm just gonna let you know she's in the building because we are honored to have the very own beautiful shiro stokes [Music] so y'all want to know because everybody's going to want to know what's in our cup so we are sipping little vodka today sorry you know what she wants to drink what's her choice to drink she said i want a little vodka but then she said country time lemonade dude i hadn't heard a country time since i was like a little kid man do you know what i'm saying no i mean i'm just saying that you don't really see it anymore in the stores you know what i mean like people on that crystal like these days like yeah but uh uh yeah but you keep it all time is the og original lemonade before all of the other i will say that what was the uh i remember when i was a kid there was a there was a orange one powder that they used to have and it was uh oh man i used to run for that and if you guys know comment down below let me know but it was an orange powder and it was a citrusy type of uh orange juice i can't remember but was it the the tang was the tank growing up i get to go throw boxes so um we had a little episode speaking of we don't want to talk about the drinks the whole time but this is actually my second drink by default by fail i should say because i dropped the drink before we started this podcast there you go so the drink the floor had a drink yeah and this is the type of floors that they kind of raise up right it's our cheap [ __ ] you know so like we got to wipe it up right away i think i spelled country time and vodka all over chiro's feet yeah i'm saying here we go turn that around can sing that's how we do that so so welcome gyro we're happy to have you on here once again happy to be here it's been a minute since we uh we've come across past i don't know was the last time we saw each other ah was it well the beginning of this year right we did a show see i asked you because i'd be forgetting my memory goes like don't mm-hmm um no it's true oh oh oh victorville uh you right there danny you were there right now when we did victory yeah i did last year no yeah it was with the mary jane girls right was it last year yeah already wow time is just moving yeah it was last year it was winter right yeah it was like a year ago i think wow so so yeah so what's been up though tell me talk to me man you know what just really invest in time and you know other little things but most mostly family you know trying to really focus on that and how long you been married now oh man five years whoa i remember going to your wedding shout out to greg keeping it alive over there greg's husband shout out to greg good dude right there by the way man you know yeah he's very quiet and calm reserved you know what i'm saying but he handles business yeah you mean i've truly been blessed yeah yes so um all right well let's just take it back to back i mean i know you know i know majority of of stuff but i don't know everything about your background uh i know some some of it's out there but for our viewers i mean that's what i do know grew up in la crenshaw right yeah we went to high school now did you did you go to um school because i talked to jamming james and it's like he had stars come out of his school like did you go to school with anybody famous what yeah dj battle cat came out of our school iced tea don't play no way i'm telling you did you go to school with iced tea no no he's older no he's older than me what about when you were there though was there anybody cause i know i had big lady kay who went to my school and to me that was stardom for me because i was out here in riverside yeah no no not that i remember no so you were the only one standing there huh i i believe so i believe so yeah that's what's up um so you started singing choir church yeah all at a young age yeah i i um was in crenshaw choir you know and then um yeah where i learned and found out that i did have a voice was in church okay you know and um my first solo i didn't even know i really could sing until i heard the tape back because back in the days they used to record the sermon yeah so on sunday sometimes we would go home after church service and hear the tapes and um i just remember hearing my voice i think i was about maybe nine okay and uh my grandmother that's young yeah sat around and i was like wow okay i i i guess i got a little something yeah yeah but yeah just going to church just finding that out in church and then what i started to do is actually get invited and was asked to do um services church services funerals and things like that of people i really didn't know you know and so i started singing a lot that way and then um i remember being over to my best friend's house uh rain shireen shireen shireen you still talk to her yeah yeah we're still thinking oh that's what's up dick is all get out but um yeah i remember being over there and ran into a david martin david martin is one of the most talented people kind of like a i don't know he just he's really good with finding talent and i just remember us being on the piano just singing around and um he asked me if i wanted to be in this all-girl singing group really yeah so would it was this a gospel one uh singing no no it was r b it was straight r b and um we actually uh ended up being one of the hottest female groups it was four of us and we actually our style was like the female new addition that's dope traveled so you guys put together you guys didn't know each other you just kind of assembled the group just kind of like how me and you know bobby were together yeah we were assembled yeah and uh that's dope now when did your did your church have an issue because you went from singing gospel to like secular music so to speak um if they did i didn't hear about it you didn't hear about it because you know how sometimes you feel like yeah oh you're gonna go out there and sing that secular music now it's like well this is what's leading me to do i mean you know it's not like but it's nothing like you were doing anything raunchy or anything that was a r b no i mean but i was still young too and i believe that you know they were understanding that i was also finding myself okay so if they did say anything like i said i didn't know about it right i didn't hear anything about it you know and i just went on and um started touring with this group and actually the group for real they actually had a a few hits they continued to go on for real man we're gonna have to yeah we're gonna have to look them up yeah they they and and they're not together obviously are they still yeah yeah they're still together they are still together so what happened there it just differences or whatever you know what it just got to a point where i just felt like i just needed a change we were growing apart we were going our separate ways and we actually i was in the group for over five something years you know okay we had toured to korea did a uso tour we did a lot of um clubs around town we were pretty popular for a young group you know we were considered the female new edition of l.a so you know we were tight and that's where i really learned my harmonies from i learned to listen to my ear in regards to tone what's your range oh man like you know you can you call it just soprano can you call it like you know what i mean some people could do it all all the way soprano first soprano all the way down to tenor because i can get on yeah crazy crazy you know what i'm saying so you know and touring with them it was good but i just i don't know we just kind of grew apart i think that happens with the group situation especially i mean look at me indeed we always had our differences but it was just two of us i can imagine with a full group yeah and then you hear about it all the time especially and this is very important when a group is put together and not more or less from the same neighborhood or or some might be from this side this side different completely different states you know what i mean as as i saw some of the other r b groups um high five and man they went through some changes back in the 90s and you know i was watching all that some of their documentaries and on the different r b groups and it's just tough man especially when eagles get involved yeah yeah i mean it's it's natural it's just like anything when you i'm sorry swv too i watched their story did you watch their story yeah i did and it was like it's like same thing you never know like what the groups and stuff go through behind the scenes you all most people just see the the aftermath of rehearsals and hits and stuff like that and they go to the concerts but there's really real life situations going on behind that stuff and then again when you're put in a group it's a marriage right and even in a in a day-to-day marriage you still have your challenges you two different people because everybody has different personalities right on exactly all right so who would you be and what what what what's that i'm playing i'll play i like which one was it in the groups for real you know no but it was it was good to happen though it was bound to happen you grow from those situations yeah and then look at where that journey took me stepping out on that because i was really sad to be honest we were we were really tight but i was sad about it and you were what 12 13 14 13 okay 13. young man doing it yeah i was i was yeah we were doing some stuff that's where a lot of my experience came from like i was saying before but it was just so ironic like people don't know the backstory of how i even made it to you guys yeah they they know i made it to the studio but they don't know how i ended up really getting to the studio and what happened before that day i i do remember um [Music] the phone call that i got or this to this day this what i heard was we were somewhere and um we were looking we had recorded our songs and whatnot and we needed a female singer and uh jamming james who's your cousin had mentioned yeah i know somebody let me give her a call and and and he said that he called you and you showed up at the studio is that the way it went down well kind of sort of but not really i want to hear you so okay so it was one day i was after i just left the group i think it was just like about two days after i didn't know what i was gonna get into i didn't know what i was gonna do from that point and i just remember laying on the bed and i just like where am i going what am i gonna do and my cousin teddy walks in and he's like what are you doing and i was like nothing trying to really figure out where i'm going yeah and uh he was like well your your cousin's in the studio you want to go and i was like yeah i guess so i guess so and then you know he was talking to him over the phone so that could have been oh okay you know so one way or another yeah the conversation remain connected we found out where he was we headed out and we just showed up to the studio and it was all she wrote it's just like i just walked in and i saw a couple of people in there and i was like okay my cousin jamie james was behind in the booth and you know he was playing a song and he was like hey you know you you you want to get on this and i was like all right he was like do you remember this song latin active the oldie back in the day were you really into hip-hop at the time at all did you bump hip-hop because i failed because i know you mentioned a lot of r b and i'm sure a lot you grew up on a lot of seoul soulful singers what about hip-hop yeah i was into hip-hop i mean but my main focus was of course the r b you know we could do top 40s and stuff like that but as far as hip-hop yeah i definitely was familiar with it so you hadn't worked prior to us you hadn't worked in any hip-hop groups no no features no no no i don't think so let me think about this let me think about because she was doing didn't you work well i know you went to school with quick didn't enjoy he grew up in your neighborhood dj quick he grew up in my neighborhood so you never crossed paths in terms of in the studio at that time around that time prior to us never okay nah all right nah we we just i grew up in south central the studio the main studio that um quick worked out of was with greedy greg and so they were up the street from us which was like not too far from crenshaw high school right so you know quick is from compton yeah yeah oh yeah that's true yeah compton but that's where the main studios were okay so they we knew each other from around the hood and you know just that kind of connect that's crazy so what was your thought when you walked into the studio as you mentioned and you kind of looked around and then you saw these two like did you ever think like this mexican dude knows how to rap like you could never cross your mind cause i mean you know we had a struggle back in the day it was a new wave you know i'm gonna say like for latinos and hip-hop to to to record records and and you know put them out this was a new thing and yeah you already had frost out there and you had melanie's but then you know here comes the first mexican-american group yeah and for you to walk in a situation i'm just trying to you know collect your thoughts you know what i i never really thought about it in that way i i walked into the studio basically thinking to myself like oh okay let's do this you know it wasn't really a thought of who are these latinos you know who are these people and you know i never look at it that way i really was trying to observe you know trying to figure it out yeah because just the love for music period to me just it didn't really matter to me as long as it was good and it felt good and you know we were all in tune it was good see the reason why i ask these questions is because i'm heavily like my thing is is just to always let people know out there that brown and black do do good together yeah and and it's it's it's a mind mindset it's a mind frame already knowing a lot of people we you know were raised differently and that's why i asked you know because uh you know unfortunately like i don't know in your hood if you grew up with mexicans in your neighborhood but i know where i grew up was brown and black i did i mean my first best friend maria yeah was a latina oh is that right somebody yeah you know what i'm saying but i can't say the words oh she told you all the bad words you got to bleep them out oh i loved her we grew up together we went to school together so you know i never had any issues did you go over to her house she come over to yours did you try the food hang out long after school and everything that's what i'm talking about aces that's what i'm talking about where's maria at today so talk to her i have no idea [Laughter] of you out there i don't know so okay so then we're we're in the studio and then um i think you recorded uh he asked you to to be on latin actor first right yeah he did but you guys changed the words i learned them real quick you know i was younger then so the mind was real quick right right did you write the lyrics or did you write the medley switch it like no change it no because it's kind of the same as radioactive right yeah yeah yeah it's definitely the same the only thing i did was just add the the flavor to the end as far as the melody and how it kind of flowed yeah i just went free with it you know what i'm saying that was it that was it and i think i saw somewhere yeah you were also saying i didn't really notice this until i heard you say that yeah like you said you changed the riffs on every chorus yeah which was which made a difference yeah yeah that's what's up just to you know give you a leeway in of this is a new person that's coming this riff is for this person that's coming and come on we'll show you how to do it because nowadays just it's just really quick you get in they do one course and they stack your vocals and then copy paste copy paste copy paste i get it stays to studio time but yeah you're a person who takes pride in what she does you know what i mean and you know i did it too because i knew i was gonna get old so you know when we started you know performing i knew if i did this riff verse number two was coming in and if i did this verse number three was numb you know what you did it was brilliant what you did by doing that it just made it harder for me when we had to cut you know teardrops burst out when we were touring because it was harder to pace it but that's a behind the scenes [ __ ] y'all know about but all right so we get the song done and remember we had an original song done and i was talking to chulo because we had to switch up the lyrics because he wrote some of denise's part as well as i did and we had a switch mexican to latina and then chicana to latina and then i think did you had to come back in because we remixed it yeah because at first i think it was just the sample that we used and then we went and remixed the album we then um that's when we had the live bass guy come in then you came and redid your vocals right yeah that was when yeah fire yeah so then all right so then here we go we shoot the video we're in orange county yeah boom we're out there we're doing latin active shout outs to old world hoff you know you know and uh there's there's shiro out there in this gold suit or what was it what was it leather coming out of lolo with the letters you know what i'm saying talk about that vibe though the low rider was hot you don't you think you you think you own it back in the day i can say that i was a little bit you know i could have kicked it with the leather the yellow leather just to you know have a little contrast in the color sure but that was spider was yeah it was hot yeah your first time in the lowrider yeah really yeah yeah i think yeah using the shawl man did you ever cruiser shaw i did but not in a low rider not the low rider nah we cruising nissans are these all these words cintras that's what they look great dude the hard bodies greg had low riders and stuff like that your husband's husband was you know low riding is that right yeah what did you have great for me 60 out of 64. 82 coupe wow great cars oh man he put it down with the dayton's man that's what's up dude yeah timeless that's what we call timeless man those cars yeah um so yeah so you're out there and and doing your thing and yeah i was watching some of tony's interview tony a shout out to tony a and and you had mentioned something that that kind of like made me go wow i didn't think about that how you were making your own way like you never came inside there wasn't a scene shot with you and i and bobby it was always you always had your own scene that and sunday afternoon which we'll get into but was that purposely done that was that by you or would the cliff want to make you your own artist or how did that work it wasn't purposely done by me i think the idea was basically to make sure that everyone knew that a lighter shade of brown was that unit you know what i'm saying because you guys were just really coming out establishing things right so and back then they had this thing where you know if we sing hooks or someone sings the hook they sing the hook and they're separate from the group right so they wanted to establish the fact that this is a lighter shade of brown and shiro is the singer yep and that was the beginning of the journey yeah so that's what it was about to kind of give you your own place too like i thought it was dope don't get me wrong i'm sure there was other hip-hop videos back we didn't know what really it was doing yeah we weren't really thinking like that you know but it was really establishing like you said who we were yeah so let's fast forward to sunday afternoon and man i remember i don't remember being there when you recorded latin active but i do remember you being there when you recorded sunday afternoon over and when you because originally sunday afternoon did not have a chorus on it it was just strictly instrumental yeah so then when you came on top of and and laced your vocals and i think that was done with quality records and they were like dude we need we need a singer on this yeah in order to take it a radio like we need some kind of hook we just can't take it like this with samples or whatever yeah so when you did that roll he was just like whoa this is fire and and then i remember uh rocky padilla's brother came in danny recipes he came in he played saxophone on it and with you and the saxophone it just made it just that smooth yes um you know a lot of people don't know how i ended up in the studio on a sunday afternoon okay um after latin active you know started making waves and everybody started to um acknowledge the fact that lsob is here and this is their sound i remember getting a call from cliff saying that quality wanted to meet with you so i ended up going down to uh quality records and um they sat me down and they were like you know what a lot of people are really feeling latin active and we love what you did on that song so we want to bring you back on another one of the songs if you'd be willing to do that yeah and um i said sure not a problem and then that's when i went back in the studio and sang on a sunday afternoon that's how it went down man come on dude people let you know and and that's just shout outs to everyone man we were involved with that um yeah we just made magic and i don't know that song to this day is just the anthem and i mean artle bowl plays it every sunday shout out to arnold yes shout out i know you get tagged on it every sunday somebody's always tagging me on instagram yo it's sunday i gotta tag odl or you know whatever because it's just one of those things i mean yeah and then after um sunday so then we started touring right yeah or were we already touring when we were no it was after the songs were recorded yeah let's get it because i know they want to know some stories you got a couple stories to share because i heard you had some and i know you and i we've sat down hello you want to go hoping you want to be hey this is the blockout baby let's get deep and i don't want you to hold anything back yeah man like you know if there was some you know that that sticks out specifically no yeah it is what it is you know what i'm saying you know but y'all were crazy talk about it yeah yeah sean was our media who was who was crazier who was crazier oh or bobby oh my god both of them they both were just off the hinges just like literally you know i i i back in the day was still having that church vibe going though we were no i really didn't you know i didn't drink back then i never had a drink until i was 32 years old look at that i didn't drink i didn't smoke i didn't do any other stuff i still don't smoke i don't do the smoky smoke but i'm just saying it's a drinky drink but it was really crazy back in the day but i mean you guys were young yeah you were young wilding out thousands that's what thousands of girls and just you know you guys used to be exhausted the next morning and i used to be sitting on the bus with my headphones like yeah next stop well rested and everything while y'all were just snoring on the bus and giggling and just all of this stuff but y'all would wow i'll have like live crazy parties in your hotel room man just oh we did now i'm not sitting here glorifying anything but damn it i live maybe a crazy life i mean i was young like you said you know and yeah and i think the stardom came so quickly for us i mean just this wave just really just you know rapidly just started going and the singles were going the touring was going and you know before you knew it man we was just anywhere and everywhere and then if i wasn't me personally like if i wasn't on tour you know i was driving to l.a you know meeting up with girls and this and like just living the life man that's why i got it all out of my system before i got married later on in life but that's neither here nor there but let's go back to the you don't remember like any any specific story though come on i know you got arsenal go there i can't go there you know what i'm saying i'm trying to you know though you know what i'm saying you you might not like it no no like i said girl it's all good okay so this is a story and i and i know you're gonna remember this because it was a big deal yeah okay i'll be hold your britches so okay we go have a show and of course like always we're chilling in a hotel i'm in my room i used to just get excited just by ordering room service and watching the movie okay y'all used to get again buck wild and all of this stuff and wait a minute wait a minute let me stop her cause it's better not being like no like uh uh well i i i already can't stop her now i can't stop right now okay go ahead i know i know i'm turning red right now like a mug right now go ahead go ahead go ahead so you know as we're getting called to the bus walk past the door y'all room is all tore up just everything all over the place condoms all on the floor just everything i said oh look okay okay okay so we get on the bus he's sitting down and i'm sitting in the back like always just seemed like i wasn't throwing condoms on the walls it was crazy so bobby gets on the bus you get on the bus and we're sitting there and all of a sudden robert says odion says yeah man i'm burning wow she went there dude she went was like oh there i'm just something weird man something's going on like i don't know i got it man this sounds good what is this man what is this to drink to that and of course inside i'm dying i'm dying and he's just like nah man we gotta go see somebody this ain't it this ain't it so he starts patting his foot real wild you know because you know you know you when you never experienced something like that before in your life and it happens to you you know anything that naturally happens to your body and you're not you've never experienced you go what the hell is this yeah you know like why is this happening in my body and you know yeah i learned real quick yeah i learned really yeah three days later yeah yeah but i mean you guys used to have a good time we would have a good time you know you guys would go to the after parties and all that kind of stuff you know it was wild it was i you know it was one hell of a ride man i remember just being that that age you know uh late late teens early twenties and we just write them up huh yeah crazy and then yeah did you go on tour with us on the hip hop local tour at all i believe so i toured with you guys for at least a good you said eight years or something right i do not remember it that long god do you remember when we did magic mountain okay yes don't play yes gotta take a swiggle if somebody says if somebody says do you remember a show if you don't you remember show that comes to mind that's the first one that comes to mind always ever is all in the the magic mountain show the two shows that we did there because it was 7 30 and 9 30 and i i think we told this before right and when punky brewster was there marky mark we opened up for marky mark and marky mark came in afterwards and decided to open up for us because he said yo man we give it to you this is your crowd yeah i remember yeah i remember that and now i'm looking at marky mark today as an established actor what yo mark hey what's up man you know we're available you know shoot some burgers okay you know he was buffed so i had a little crush yeah hallelujah oh yeah i remember punky showed up too very spunky i think she talked about getting the breast reduction at the during that she was telling us punky brewster if you remember that was our conversation with her she was talking about she was going through that this this breast you know and i'm going yeah you wouldn't understand but i didn't understand it's a female thing i get it but i'm like wow so crazy so magic mountain dope yes um so then i don't think he did any of the summer shows with us up north academia and oakland and stuff like i know you went to phoenix with us and we rocked the stage at power 92 out there man like in 91 or something and it just used to be so lit we had background dancers too right yes and fresno and all those different cities and sacramento and man was teardrop on any of those shows i can't remember ah denise no i i don't recall her being on any of the shows back you know i failed to grab this clip but uh you know maybe we'll slide it in here on the post edit but how about when we did paul rodriguez how dope was that dope dope dope we got invited to uh the paul rodriguez show he had a show on i think it was i want to see univision very very popular forgive me if it wasn't was either that or telemundo one of the two and uh he invited us out and then they were like cliff said man paul rodriguez wants you to be on the show we were like what yeah you perform sunday afternoon we had two background dancers at the time it was me and dee and then it was shiro and then i just remember we you know we were on there and we were doing our thing and he called us out we started rapping and then when it got to your part you came up on stage and you had this black outfit on and i think you had like waves shirley temple yeah that was my tag right there for five years i wore shirley temple straight five years can i tell you something what paul was on you was he paul rodriguez was on you he was i mean not like physically but he kept even out you know he was like because even on camera he kept saying he was like hey man shower was a you know beautiful you know woman you know i kept saying like three or four different times and then even off the off the mic wow she was just like yo i'm like okay like she's 19 like how old are you 20 yeah yeah about that yeah something around there yeah because i know we were a couple years ago yeah so but yeah it was it was a great time doing that show that that's one of the tv shows that i remember that we did together which was i didn't know paul was trying to you know get at me you know hey come on everybody man every time we go to we go to a city man if you weren't there hey where the girl at what girl what girl tear drop no man you got to be singing on your song oh cause we always gotta like separate them yeah that's either wrapping on your song or singing okay with rap and then we know it's teardrop yeah if it's you know because uh i was like oh you mean chiro we wish yeah man yeah that's why we came you know blah blah blah i'm like oh that's for psycho i'll tell you you said that but they were always asking for you um but eight years was a long ride i i i don't remember that it being that long man i don't remember a lot of [ __ ] to be honest with you that's why i asked you to bring the stories because i just yeah it was a lot going on but i mean it was it was it was supposed to happen in the sense of you guys again were growing up you know life was happening around you guys you guys were blowing up stuff was going really really fast i mean even the um just the love that you guys would get um when you would come out to shows and stuff like just how they would receive you guys is just so awesome yeah i mean it's just even to this day i still appreciate the acceptance of you know that i was receiving from even being on the song you know when i would walk out with you guys i mean just the love that you guys get i mean i don't even know if do you really realize how much they love you love you i think i'm seeing that now 30 years later you know and that's real reality because when when the fans and i'm sure you get hit up too all the time on social media or it's in person it'll thank you and you see the genuineness in their hearts like in their faces like thank you what dude you don't know what your music did like for me i was either locked up or i was uh you know away in the military yeah you know what i'm saying or i was going through tough times in my neighborhood and your music just really kept my mind off of those those things that happened whether it was a tragedy whatever um even if it was good you know it was just like your household name you guys were clean you know what i'm saying i could bump it i could turn it up loud and not worry about my mom tripping because you guys didn't cuss in your music yeah like it was all of that and i you know i get those stories today and just to see their kids embrace our music and eight-year-olds you know singing on their daddy's shoulders like music i'm like dude this is what you call timeless music yeah this is from generations and you know when we're gone long gone sunday afternoon so we'll be bumping in somebody's whip yeah i mean yeah i mean it's it's awesome to see you know when when i'm able to perform with you guys it's awesome to see you know the love that they continue to give you guys you know and just how they've even accepted me you know and like you said you know when there's no color lines that we're not thinking about each other's nationality and all of that kind of stuff it it just shows you that there is love across the board for people that accept just good music good feel music good lyrics and good speak on it you know it's that's that's important though you know when you it really shows when you have a love for the music when it shows in your performances when it shows on the tracks that you sing and and when people see groups come together because back in the day to be honest a lot of the groups they had um some of the artists who sung hooks do some of the shows but not a lot yeah that was different for us in that way where i was able to have that um gift to be able to go on tour with you guys and be the original singer from that track to try with you guys and come out and it was always a blessing how you guys would keep me backstage and a lot of people wouldn't even know i was surprised it was special and to be honest a lot of people didn't even know i was black yeah is that right yeah they didn't know when i would walk out and they would see that i was you know african-american they would scream because they were like what because remember on a sunday afternoon was a black and white video it was not a color video right so people really didn't get the jest of you know okay what is she yeah they didn't know until i would do it live i remember you was rocking the little overalls with the airbrush oh yeah you know you still had your own scene and sunday afternoon that was dope that was dope yeah so let's let's um let's fast forward now so you out of light of shady brown you transitioned you into your own career yes and i believe you ended up signing with uh was it virgin yes yeah i signed with virgin records but before i did that actually i had uh sang with brandy and various other artists as well after lighters or during the uh after after a lighter shade of brown really i thought brandi was before us no okay no no i believe that's when i had uh we separated for a moment and then i ended up being with brandy because i remember there after that's when i got my deal that's when my deal came along but uh did brandy like know the song did she know you from sunday afternoon no she didn't even know her no what's up brandy i'm sorry i want to be down i want to be down or is my mind mistaking me no because it was right before i ended up getting my deal because we were on tour with the voice to men it was baby face and brandy okay and i remember i was actually i wasn't signed to virgin just yet i was signed to scotty brothers records scotty brothers scott didn't they go under yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot of labels in there folding rub c uh bankrupt and and um but yeah that was when i was first recording my first album that was when um i was dealing with brandy and you're right you guys came after me okay all right good good good yeah okay i'm just trying to follow the sequences you know what i'm saying that's right that's right so so you got sign of the virgin label and i remember the video what was the one where you were wearing a hat was it where'd you just like a like a mobster or something no am i tripping oh you know what yes can we tell you right i was a little mom's mobster i kidnapped um karate karate kid you remember him ralph not ralph macchio uh what's the name from cobra kai from last dragon who from last dragon the guy from class dragon uh oh the light skin brother oh okay yeah i kidnapped them in my video you know what i'm saying and i was a mobster guys my girls go kidnap them and bring them where i needed them to be that's what's up that's what's up and that was your first single on virgin yeah so what up didn't you know that was my single on scotty brothers scotty i'm tripping i'm tripping i'm tripping so where did didn't you do a song with a mc light that was on virgin was that after yeah yeah so i went from scotty brothers and we released can we talk and they released some other stuff then i ended up leaving there and then working with solar shock and carlin and those who don't know they did um love me some hymn for tony braxton and all of that kind of hold on hold on hold on i want to go back to the mc light because uh she was one of my favorites you know paper thin you know what i'm saying like back in the day when i was coming up just this girl was just raw and to have her on we got that video bro the one we got um i like right yeah that was i like yeah so where was this shot at chiro downtown look at that downtown also on look at that look at showroom what kind of whip is that oh yeah a porsche okay look at him light yes there you are that's you right yeah that's me that's you that's now who's that dude he got dishing got the part oh man what was inside again shot on top it was downtown actually the the top of that was downtown however the studio where mc light is was in paramount studios you kind of got that allele vibe going on like your hair maybe like yeah i think that was not saying that was a style but just oh you know this was before they came out i was kind of like doing the baggy thing a little bit already you know what i'm saying you are right yes come on man somebody was watching your video nate dave they said let's go put a lia up with some uh tommy hilfiger see look at my boots my comeback boots you know what i'm saying little sections dude those are the night these house boots right there hey ladies you know you know if you know you know the go-go boots yeah i was a little tomboyish but a little sexy twist on top of it yeah dude that's fresh so then all right what was let's get it ah that's that's fast forward that's that's what that's that's like 29 get it was like recently that's not that's what i'm saying i think we're moving too far okay let's hold on to let's get it yeah so okay so after this the video we just saw a like i dug up like so many songs of you i just googled your name and i didn't realize how many songs you have out there it's so-and-so featuring shot like you did either a lot of features or are were they mainly gospel records or were they no it was r b as well um they also released the video um good loving okay that was the from virgin records good loving that was your second single yeah second with lord tariq we also um filmed that paramount again and that's where i ended up rotary is a what's the dude that always cheated on love and hip-hop all the time peter gunn peter guns he was in a group with peter so he wrapped on um good loving that's what's up and um dope dope dope they really invested they invested a lot in my career they really really did so then what happened after that did the label just started part ways do they know how to work you or what happened yeah the the label then parted ways with the production company that i also was under so that was heartbreaking you know when you when you have a dream of wanting to be an artist you know a solo artist or whatever the case may be you just feel like of course because artists are passionate they're sensitive did you always want to be solo even back in the for real days no when i was with for real i was so young i didn't even think about it so you you didn't even know i didn't even think about okay what could i do solo wise right because i was groomed in a group i think the reason why i bring that up and that reminds me of i think i heard you say somewhere that you said when me and bobby got together we didn't want to be together no you didn't and that i wanted to be solo and he wanted to be solo yeah and you are right about that you were right about that's a true story that's why it was so much tug of war because it was like you guys just did not want to be together yeah and it it showed itself in some ways behind the scenes of a lot of beef you know what i'm saying we'll get i don't mean to go back and forth like but all right we'll get to that to that situation but so then all right so it parted away so then what did you get into next after after the did you still do a music obviously because there was a lot of records yeah yeah i still kept doing music um doing voiceovers i started doing tv commercials as well cadbury candy many made orange juice i still was doing the voice things and i did a lot of backgrounds with layla hathaway r b stuff did you ever want to walk away from this like the whole music thing do you ever get burnt out say you know what man this i'm tired like i did this after so many years i never got burnt out i think for me it was more set on the hurt sometimes that comes with it more of the disappointment where if people don't know a lot of times especially back in the day there was a lot of hype on oh let's hook up let's do this let's do that but a lot of let down because people would fluff it you know and you'd be thinking oh yeah this is so we getting ready to and then it wouldn't take place yeah so it was a lot of disappointment in that especially if you thrive for music thrive to be an artist thrive to sing do shows and stuff like that a lot of um things are disappointing when it doesn't come to fruition especially when you want to do something like this be in this music business i want to ask you something personal and you don't have to answer it but it's i mean it's obviously it's a thing i mean it's important you know since this whole the whole me too movement and stuff like that and women being in any business whether in the industry did you ever experience anything of that nature to where you know hey charlo i'ma do this for you if you do this for me you know was that ever i'm not gonna ask you to call any names but if it was if it did happen you know how to make you feel well they try it all the time okay see because that's something you and i never even talked about off record like we never had that conversation we talked about a lot of stuff yeah i mean they would flirt but i think where i i was really lucky in some of it is that a lot of the djs and stuff like that showed me a lot of respect so they didn't really come after me in that sense but they did flirt a lot and they did you know let it be known that they're open for something right and i really didn't have to sell my soul out for anything and you know that's i'm thankful for that you know because a lot of people nowadays are having to you know lower their standards to get what they want or even to blow up right now what's your message to younger women like that at the end of the day it's really not worth it quick money never last quick money never last know who you are as an artist and don't just cross a line just because you want the change or the money because at the end of the day money comes and goes things you buy get old you know so just make sure that your ethics and your mindset and the value that you have in yourself stands above all things at the end of the game because that's what you're gonna have to look at when you get old because your bones gonna give out that's right and your eyes gonna need glasses and you know all of those things so the respect that you hold now in the business coming out in it is very pivotal that you just really think about the things you do in the beginning so that it doesn't affect you negatively in the end because as we know we live in a society today girl you get one viral video oh [ __ ] gonna get dug up on you from 20 years ago 10 years ago i'm seeing that everywhere these days that's why i'm hoping i never go viral like cause i know there's some [ __ ] the flying condoms he was talking about earlier last year you know tell us something that nobody knows about you hmm it's cliche as it sounds but you know that no or maybe i don't know about me you know what i'm saying like that i didn't always have vitiligo i didn't always have vitiligo i didn't always have that i noticed when i had vitiligo at the age of seven and um i never let it stop me from doing what i love to do as far as music and being the person that i am i had to first accept me for who i was in order for others to accept me and the one thing that i've learned is that if you don't make a big deal out of it others won't right you know well notice with bullies they only really bully you where they know you're weak because you've shown that to them but the moment you stop being weak in that area they have nothing to really attack you on because there's nothing they can really channel into it's like eminem when he was on a mile and he did that if he spit that verse he was like now i'm gonna rap about everything you're already gonna rap about so i might as well just say it now and then he did that and the dude had nothing to come back with there you have it yeah i wasn't born with this i wasn't born with this and you know my thing is whenever i meet people or go out that's not my first line of defenses to cover that up or just or to hide it because i think it's beautiful i think it's what makes me different makes me unique you know and then i always wanted to tell you know people no matter what happens because no one's perfect you got to continue to be yourself be yourself accept yourself for who you are and walk in that confidence and others will follow man that's what's up girl preach man and all them girls out there listening man you got daughters out there even sons you're beautiful just the way to me absolutely don't go change it hey [Laughter] no that's dope man i never i never really asked you about that either i mean it wasn't my place to like whatever you shower to me like it don't matter you know people ask people walked up to me and said hey you know my son or my daughter has that what can i say to them and and all of that and you guys see the model today that you know they're glorifying it you know letting letting them be them and that's the way it should always be you know so should i glorify you no not not today not today as long as you're healthy though you know you can have a big belly that's right that's that beer i know that's right they helped yup those camping trips i saw them cambrie trips what's your favorite what's her favorite line the dark stars monday it starts monday two three years ago okay so let's let's fast forward up is there anything in between the get it video hold on a second was it get it was it get it video after the uh you mean let's get it let's get it i'm sorry yeah let's get it get it that was 2019. [Music] right no no let's get it right 2019 2019 yeah yeah i think so okay so so i was doing the pandemic yeah that's right we had just really released that song and the pandemic took over show that real quick clip real quick man so we could talk about it since we're on the music tip wasn't that downtown too same place yeah why would you go anywhere else yeah that's why look at you yeah okay still trying to keep it young and fresh all right look at that man i'm in l.a right now okay look at the glasses though not the kumo d's you know look at my daughter my beautiful daughter you're doing my yes it is i inherited her through my wonderful husband [Music] so how many children do you have now collectively with my husband and i we have five five of them yeah but i only have two earth children what's that like uh it's beautiful more the merrier it's awesome because everyone also lives in the same house no they're out oh because they're older how's your oldest who's got great the oldest is 28 right but she's my oldest too that's my daughter okay break it down how old are they 20 20 28. jimmy my son is the oldest he's 35. 35. and then his daughter's 28 and then we have a 21 year old and then we have a 19 year old and then we have a 12 year old see and uh who's who's living in the house just a 12 year old no they're all gone she's over grandma so it's just y'all man you lucky yes lucky see i started late pow wow all day long that's what i'm saying dude in the [Laughter] well you know i got married at 41. you know i got i had my first child at 42 so like all my friends are like hey dude we gonna go out here man i want you vanessa come out here bro you know how young my kids are like oh yeah i forgot sorry our kids are away at college but that's good you waited yeah look at all the stuff you have to go through i'm not complaining you're wrong you know i i built my foundation first yeah absolutely hands down beautiful ah i just you know every scenario is different but that's good so so so what's mary's life like now i mean it's it's what you're doing yeah yeah talk about it no i'll just but really though talk about it on the next episode it is work but you know i'm i'm really um gifted and blessed to have a partner who understands the business because he's been in the business you know he's worked with oh my gosh so many different artists out there he wrote a lot of greg wrote a lot of songs right he wrote a lot of songs he wore he's managed a lot of artists as well come on give us some of your names did you write miguel or who was it no what r b artist didn't you write for some r b artist or some keisha cole that's called uh-huh yeah yeah k michelle yes no cannot k michelle but what's the other guy you managed the other guy yep yg okay oh so you did some management too then a side of writing okay so you've done it all yeah buzzing yeah yeah yeah yeah so you know it's so interesting because we ran almost with the same crowd and didn't even know it we were crossing paths you know dj battle battle cat he's worked with dj battle captain so many other producers and i didn't even know at the time when i met him that he even knew him you know what that was you know why why y'all was in the same room because god was working on you that's what i'm saying he was working on him he wasn't about to give you one of our like that i say that you know what i'm saying because it's yeah yeah right right no i joke but seriously like it was flipped for me and my wife because i had a conversation with chulo on the last podcast and long story short you know when i was going through my time i was like getting older now i'm like well damn maybe i ain't meant meant for marriage material you know i can't slow down i can't find somebody but it was like dude like man god they told me god had my boy told me god has that girl she's probably right next to you yeah don't even realize it dude but she ain't just going to hand her over to you yeah like you got to get yourself right do you so that's what it was story at the table that you told me about before you had married vanessa you do you remember we did a show was that sober you probably remember where i don't know if we were in san diego or wherever we were we did a show and i remember after the show we went it was you me and bobby when we sat at the table and we were just powering just talking about some things and you had said to me he was like you know i met this girl oh no man you know what i'm thinking about man i'm not sure yeah i don't know you know what i should do is she cool with my face like that for real yeah he was like the family like her you know and all of this i don't know yeah and decisive always and then you know i was just like nah if that's if you told me your heart your heart your nose yeah heart knows go for it yeah and i remember shortly after that went for it next thing you know sharon shows up at the uh house uh it was on my birthday and uh she shows up and the birthday proposal and everything surprised me i didn't even know and uh around this whole time chiro and i we were um we were in cahoots with each other because we were filming a documentary which most of you have probably seen which is good to bring up now because there's where uh when bobby and i dwts and i got back together in 2015 we started touring and whatnot and we were approached that same day when we you know with by lou pizarro we got introduced and he wanted to do this documentary on us uh this road to like return of lighter shade of brown you know what not and um he wanted to do a whole album so we brought cheryl in you know it was me dee um but talk about your side though about you know the the trade the trailers out there but people have been the fans have been wanting this trailer to drop since 2016. i've been wanting this trailer and we're working on it okay just know that you know it's it's some legalities that got to be worked out yeah with our music and label that's all that i know yeah but but what was your thought on that i mean there was a lot of footage you know that was great great footage that people are going to be excited to see i know that i i can't remember it all because it's just been a minute since we've recorded it right but a lot of the live shows the the back um the background things that we would do by acting silly we did a lot of silly behind the scenes behind the scenes remember the garage rehearsal right before uh cinco de mayo we were in sacramento and i was vlogging all the time right and then they were always seeing me so shadow would make fun of me like robert hi i'm robert i'm robert he loved to film back then loved it loved to love but we filmed a lot of uh serious serious scenes and stuff you know the struggles that you guys were going through live rehearsals right you know you and bobby going through difficulty struggling with whether you guys wanted to do a new album together because it had been so long and you know and y'all were talking back and forth like are we really going to do this are we not going to do this you know for real i don't want to play games with this stuff you know she's she's giving you how it is and that's exactly how it went down and these are all the behind the scenes that you will see well in the documentary once it if it ever drops you know and it's called a lighter shade of reality that's what we know right now there is a trailer out out for it and you can check it out but you can kind of get a gist of it just by watching the trailer you know of uh us being on tour and whatnot um there was also some scenes you know kind of some depressing scenes with dwtx going through his situation his condition and um i mean maybe we could you know touch light on that just just a little as far as because people always have their questions and there's been you know stuff that been put out there in the universe oh how he passed in vegas and this and that i really don't know a hundred and percent so i'm just gonna you know what i mean i i don't because honestly i talked to his mom not too long ago and she broke it down to me and she says well it's what's out there it's not really how what it is you know and that's another conversation but when she said that i was like okay well then maybe i shouldn't speak on if it's not really what she heard from the doctor you know what i'm saying so but but just to go through that i mean it does get difficult because you hear different things that you know have taken place even before he even made it to the hospital where they ended up finding him and talking to people that he was surrounded by before the incident and being connected with them i myself wouldn't understand or see why they would you know lie to me knowing that they reached out to me letting me know you know how the incident occurred and you know what happened beforehand and how you know and then i found out for myself i was there with his ex-girlfriend his now ex-girlfriend um and they did have an argument they weren't getting along but that was various times though i used to talk to her as well and they would always argue and they would always get into it you know so you know that day was just a particular day where they definitely got into it again and and you know from what i understand and the girlfriend validated that you know she she definitely agreed to that that they did get into it and she did leave him in vegas on his own um with no money you know and he had no money to do anything in one of um bobby's good friends picked him up and he was just going through you know his he was having a moment and he wanted something to drink that was his out that was that was one of his outs you know really drinking and stuff like that but see i think where a lot of people get it twisted is that bobby wanted people to know his story he wanted people to know about the struggle he was having with alcohol because he felt that if someone saw his story that he would be able to help someone because he struck he was struggling through so much you know and it just took over he would say that in conversation yeah he would say that in conversations and even when we were shooting the documentary he was saying you know hey i want to tell my story i want it out there i want to film it i'm open to filming this because i want to help somebody if nothing else from this i want to be able to help someone i think that's why he agree you're right that's why he agreed to to do that because it's not just like we took a cow producer took a camera and just started filming him don't even think that like how could you put him out there on blast no he signed up for it literally yeah he definitely did we had a conversation and and he literally said i want to do this because i want people to see my story and i want to be able to help someone else this isn't about me this is about helping other people and if i could just do that so the way people are viewing it you know is that oh he's being put out there and you know he might be shamed by this this is his reality this was his reality and he wanted people to see that so i don't think to take it in a way of that he's being shamed or he's embarrassed so let him rest i think for me those who really know bobby knows that he was an outspoken person he loved to be seen he loved to be heard funny this is not something that would shame him in a way that other people think it would because this is what he wanted right he wanted it he wanted it he wasn't forced into it he wasn't coarsed into it none of that so you know and given that day it was really rough from what i understand it was told for me is that you know he was found collapsed on the sidewalk um and he was drunk this was this was what was told to me and that the son had basically it you know fried his brain and then um someone did find him call the ambulance they picked him up took him to the hospital and from that point on because he had no idea again he was there for like a good week yeah he was there for a good week and one of the nurses said you know let's let's let me charge his phone because no one seems to be looking for this person no one's calling in for this person and she did that thank god she thought to do that and then the moment it was charged um she could see that the most recent phone calls were also to family members and to his mom and i guess he didn't have luckily he didn't have a passcode on it no so he was she was able to get it yeah she was able to you know contact someone from his family and i just remember how you know devastating it was and like i said you reached out to me first person to call me and tell me what was going on and you know um and then that's when it started to trickle and i started to find out more information of what happened and how they found him on the sidewalk and him being in a coma and even my cousin you know jim and james said that uh he had made it to his side before me and saw how swollen he was yeah and you know and by the time i had made it there his face and everything was swollen but not as much um but i could see the sun burn and i could see his skin you know burned from the sun yeah yeah and we were you know gathered around him and you know talking praying and you know just being positive trying to send you know positive vibes but it was it was a lot it was a lot and it was very sad yeah very sad unfortunate man love that dude i mean we were partners as you and i'm glad you brought it up because a lot of people get this impression how you know they always always every now and then i hear feedback oh dude that's your that's your brother that's your car now like that you guys were brought up together you were raised together i was like you don't know yeah you don't know half that and by you explaining how you even said it yourself like we both wanted to be solo yeah so it was a business thing yeah we became to know each other grow with each other but it was like a marriage yeah and and and we know how marriages are they go up and down and and that's why we want i would love for you to see the documentary hope whatever comes out but you'll get a little taste of that you know and just like any other group you know we we we had our ups we had our downs we broke up we got back together uh we you know there was shows i miss separated yeah came back together again but one thing you couldn't take away was our chemistry and on stu in the studio and on stage yeah and that was just the magic that that took place and i think for that will forever live but uh man thank you thank you for sharing that charo and uh we'll we'll let you know more about the documentary out there the audience will you know as it comes if it ever comes out which i think it needs to be seen i know there's others that may not want it to be seen but i don't know it's in god's hands whatever what it'll do it'll do you know it's gonna it's gonna do what it does do what it does do what it does do how about that no but really he he wanted he wanted it to be shared i wanted his story to be told good and uh yeah i think it should be cause i i think you spent more time on the phone with him as you mentioned more than anybody yeah because bobby i know he called fave fabe was here while and he would call up on faye i think he called up my name yeah my mom my mom would spend on the phone with bobby and you know he would be anywhere any state no matter beyond there and and uh and this is when we weren't even talking so he he would still call my mom yeah because he would call her mom he called a lot he would reach out to people various people and a lot of people would say oh i was with bobby here bobby just called me there and all of that kind of stuff it was moments that i just remember that were dear to me that even outside of the struggles that he was having he would call you know and check in but then more so too when he was in his struggle he would you know support he he would he trust me enough to be able to share his most raw vulnerable moments you know when he was really um going through and he had had too much to drink and he was you know going to do a performance and he just couldn't focus and you know i would have to sit on the phone with him for a few hours just talking him down and just really making sure he was just safe by keeping his attention right you know and there are times where he would be out of town not even remembering where he actually was just held up in a room right not even you know knowing where he was and i would just say you know you just need to sleep and just talking him through those times but he just he struggled a lot and he and he had his own demons like some people say you have your own hang ups everybody struggles with something it's just what is that something what is that trigger and he struggled with a lot of demons there are times where you know i would be talking to him on the phone he was like they're they're chasing me like i i know i have something great to do i know how talented i am i know how blessed i am to be where i am in this business but my demons keep chasing me and i just can't fight them off i can't do it it's too hard he he shared one thing he did share with me is when we got back together and at that show in 2015 and i leave it on this part is he says you know oh we're sitting there he goes i go man how did how did it come to this d because i hadn't talked to him in years you know if he i would just know he was touring and having episodes everywhere and and finally when we caught up i go how did it get to this point and then i remember he said he goes he's uh like you said he goes i'm just i'm just battling something man he goes i battle something he goes you know you'll see me here for three weeks and and then i'll be gone for one and you won't see me for a whole week my girl knows he goes i'll just leave the house and i'll just go on a binge he goes i'm a binge drinker now a lot of us are [ __ ] i'm ben's drinker on the weekends like that i look forward to that you know but he would be gone for a week and sometimes even longer and wouldn't even know where he was at and then he'd come back home he said and then he'd be cool everything would be chill he'd be able to rap he'd be able to uh you know work and and then all of a sudden that it started coming back yeah and and it's unfortunate you know but i there's where i kind of understood where he was coming from and it wasn't until later on where i saw for my own eyes as to you know where you know you'll see in in a documentary hopefully one day where he started going to rehab yeah and and uh the celebrity rehab that he was in over over there and uh it's a shame man like but he went in and out of it he did go in and out of it there were times where he really was fighting to you know get free of it he was really trying you know there were times where you know he hadn't drank in a while and i could see on his face that he was struggling wanting to yeah but he he would just you know pull me to the side and say hey um says i'm i'm trying you know i'm struggling right now but i'm trying to really get through this but i also have to remember who i'm surrounding myself with too because i'm seeing them do it and i'm telling them i don't want to do it but then you know because i'm hanging with these people they're doing it and i say hey you got to be careful with the company you keep all companies not good companies oh he was talking about the circle of the people he was hanging out with yeah yeah cause he was trying to stop you know i didn't see half of them or any of them at the funeral well i mean i'm just gonna throw that out there you know you are yeah yeah you know you know people it just pisses me off because i've seen it like you know all this time like all these cats hanging on this coat and tail for all these years and i heard about it and i seen it on social media before we got back yeah and and it's like where were they it's like you know just to get even get a head start like we do there's just so many supposed to be out we just wait for it you know wait it's going to come out man but uh chiara thank you for coming on the platform you know and sharon is there anything else that we haven't talked about that you want to share 2022 what's new with you 2022 girl what's new with you girl what you going to do [Music] you know how we break it down shot rose stokes one thing i do want to talk about no not talk about but your name before i always do this i always have one of the closest show and then i don't wait one more one more do your name dude like shiro that's so dull like i never knew where that came from because everybody would always ask me what is she shaking a sunday afternoon it was me who and they would always make it it's shiro it's her name but then i never thought about it and then i heard one day you talked about it you're half japan japanese or your grandma's and black yeah so shiro i don't know after my grandma i was just mind blown after that i was like that makes sense shiro my daddy was smart that's dope he took that and it's so unique yeah i love it love it love it and yeah you know what blows my my mind every time is when we do a live show and people sing the hook and they literally give my name right that's dope i love that some people say shiloh yeah true i laugh i laugh i don't take it personal because they're trying they're trying yeah good stuff man anything you want to say to them anybody out there before we head out well much love to all you guys i just want to say thank you so much for just having my back and just supporting me even still over all of these years and giving me love also with my connection with the lighter shade of brown and um acknowledging that and how they opened that door for me to become a part of the latino family and how they have just been instrumental on my voice being heard nationwide it's on your side oh oh oh i'm sorry let's clean that out no i know i ain't driven no but really i did a crack in the middle of that so i'm just saying clean it up but other than that no i just really want to just say thank you to you thank you um for continuing on this journey keeping a lighter shade of brown alive and some people feel like oh because bobby's not here why am i yeah shayda brown should be not here but that's not true because the legacy still must live on and he would want it this way right regardless of whether you guys were bumping heads wanted to be separate solo regardless of the fact you guys have made history it was meant to be it was orchestrated and this is just what it is so the reality is get over it it is still here it's never gonna die lsob is all done all day every day time is music baby time is music man like they say man music goes on and it'll be here forever so uh yeah thanks again god bless you and your family you know what i mean and let's let's not wait another a year to see each other you know we got some things happening locally maybe he'd like to be a part of so we'll reach out i just got to go to that man over there on the couch on the other side and make sure my big g g in the house she be on it bro on his game he'd be like he don't play about his wife he don't play it by his wife i sent him i said i sent him some paperwork a while back one of the last shows we did he was like look bro i don't know what mickey mouse template you got this from but now he didn't say it like that he made me feel like he said it like that it was like look dude this is what we need is what we need and then we're good but it was all good shout out to greg man appreciate you shout out to my bed all right y'all hey that's gonna do it right here wanna shout out to my boy danny boy hey guys so i actually have a question can we hear the acapella of the hook we were chilling in the park just waiting for the sun to go down the blockout a lighter shade of brown there you have it there it is y'all at the blackout podcast man all social media platforms we're gonna leave charles link in the description as well thank you whether you're watching this you're hearing this either way on all the platforms share it there's a story to be told and we're telling it on this platform y'all the birth of bella sob shiro stokes [Applause]