Once upon a time, humans used to be massively terrified of what was out in the darkness waiting for them. Actually, you know what? Scratch that.
Put anybody in the woods at night, and then they hear a weird noise, everybody's terrified. That's why when I go camping, I sleep in my 4Runner. But whether it was just you and your family trying to survive, or potentially you had a group of people, if you were lucky, stories would be passed around about creatures waiting just outside where the fire was casting light, biding their time until someone was foolish enough to walk out there and get bodied, and then really just turn into a man with.
In some instances, these stories would talk about monsters who would lure people out, trying to sound like family and friends in order to gain their ear and also their trust, so that they would go investigate the sources of the noise and ultimately meet their end. However, one creature in particular is one that on the North American continent still inspires fear out in the woods. And should you meet it, considering humanity as a whole has become quite ballsy, that would likely be your last meeting of anything ever. In a small town in Oregon, Coal is back on the menu, boys, and the governor has installed a program to restart the coal mines in order to ramp up production to get the economy to pick back up again.
Known as mountaintop mining, these coal mines would be delved into in order to extract the resources humanity need to power our technology. That said, these mountains are home to a twisted spirit corrupted by the Wendigo after resorting to cannibalism. So as you might guess, it's probably not good.
When this law was enacted, this would inadvertently push people who may have been using the mines for other more nefarious reasons to run into this creature and kick off a wave of infection. So in today's episode, we all saw the thumbnail, we'll be discussing the movie Antlers, as well as I'm going to do something a little different considering this channel is Logic. base for the most part.
We will also talk about what happens to the human body biologically during the transformation, the Wendigo induced psychosis, and ultimately how you might be able to take out and survive an entanglement with a Wendigo. Because if you didn't know, these creatures along with skinwalkers are just about my favorite type of cryptids in existence as long as it stays within a minimum 1,000 miles away from where I live. Alright, let's get to it. So we all know my nonsense I'm about to say by heart, but up on screen you'll see a timestamp. If you want to bypass the summary of the movie and get to how you actually could maybe survive a Wendigo attack as well as what happens to the human body, head there.
For everyone else, let's talk about why if you enter a mine and you hear some kind of animal that you can't identify, your next best option is to leave immediately and don't try to go exploring to figure out- what the name of all that is holy is that eight foot shadow in the corner over there but it's really too dark to see so let me go poke it with a meth stick i mean it just never seems to turn out to be good long term so we open up our story to a reading in one of the first nations languages for your information this particular language is known as ojibwe basically getting everyone in the mood of we keep stripping the earth for natural resources and because we are literally cracking up the planet an evil spirit has made its way not necessarily out from underground but has essentially been released for all intents and purposes which historically also isn't great. Panning across the Oregon landscape, it pretty much looks like Washington. As we all move into the industrial complex, we see a kid is super bored and hitting the metal bars near him with another metal bar. Now, if you haven't been that bored before waiting on your old man to finish up working, it's an experience, let me tell you. As he sits there, he ends up hearing a howl and then breaks off heading towards the truck.
His dad comes back outside and starts talking to him about how they're finishing up now. He's looking a little messed up concerning his face, but he actually seems to like his kids, so that's interesting. Heading back inside, he puts on his gas mask before entering a completely blacked out mineshaft.
Prior to entering, he hears something growl, but says, eh, screw it. What could possibly go wrong? Walking with the swagger of Heisenberg after his first successful deal, he meets up with his partner and cooker in the back.
But seriously, though, this dude, like, I don't know, he just walks like a caveman. Like, why is he walking like this? Anyways, they're cleaning up the area, apparently a little upset that they now have to move to another portion. of oregon i mean i would be too but this appears to be the perfect location so that kind of sucks as they continue to gather their gear the cooker hears something else in the mind as they remove their masks which is not a good plan they continue to hear gurgling and growling before pulling out the force multiplier and going to investigate moving further in they find bags tied to the roof of the mine before realizing they are somewhat cornered by whatever is in there as it begins its attack they let off a few rounds to no avail before it jumps back to the truck The kid hearing this goes to investigate but clearly does not want to go in there, but he does anyways and then we get the title.
So it's now three weeks later and we meet a teacher named Julia. As she talks about how storytelling is a way for humanity to pass along information or lessons, she asks if anyone can give an example. Okay, so I'm all for engaging the class with a topic, but when one kid raises their hand, bro, just call on them. Then ask a second question that involves others.
Instead this teacher of the year just completely ignores this little girl raising her hand, and that's definitely a great way to inspire curiosity and wonder in children about the natural world, am I right? So she asks a bunch of random kids getting to Lucas, he isn't very interested in answering, and as a little girl answers, it's apparent Big Red next to him picks on him for some reason. Lucas begins his nice rain-filled walk back home, passing the nice lab his father has set up in the mines, before walking along a lake and finding a skunk.
He picks up a rock and then heads home. What did he use the rock for? We'll find out. Entering his home, it's completely dark. One of the doors has several locks on it, and as he goes in to listen, he doesn't hear anything.
He eventually enters it before flashing back over to Julia, eyeing some jimidor pretty hard. Pretty sure I mispronounced that, so we'll go with the Bombay, actually. Currently doing a dry January myself, I actually feel her on that. As she heads home...
Get some exposition about reopening the mines because what has the earth done for us recently anyways? I mean honestly, let's just switch to nuclear already as Julia starts walking around her home She stops to where the office of her father used to be something doesn't look good with the flashback So now we meet Paul Meadows her brother off shift He immediately goes to bed Julia then pull some pictures off the wall and then goes to bed herself Meanwhile Lucas is not having a restful night's sleep. He's instead cutting apart the monkey doll thing and he hears something move around on the other side of the door that's locked as it starts smacking it to open up the next morning we have this weird interaction paul is looking for his medication julia moved it for some reason and he wants her to leave it where it is so he can find it i had the same issue with my wife i left a pen on the floor next to the entertainment center a few weeks back if i ever needed it my wife had the audacity to move it and i couldn't find it when i did need it most so i feel paul on this anyways julia overcompensates by saying that she's going to be moving out as soon as she can and i mean i don't think I think it needs to be brought to that level, but okay.
So we're back now at school. Julia asked Lucas to read the story, but instead he just drew pictures. He mentions bears and how big bear and little bears and sides turned black after they came home. So baby bear had to take care of them. Pretty creepy.
Also, interestingly, just as a Roanoke lore, there was this kid back in middle school who drew stuff like this. And he actually got pulled out of class. I didn't see him for like another...
four years which is very strange anyway so lucas apparently put the dog crap in big red's bag to which big red responds by spearing on the glass of the school's door then tried to push lucas's face into it i mean the one who lost here is the guy holding the poop bag on the door is all i'm saying also where are the teachers the doors open up and this is clearly something that you might want to break up right so lucas goes to the nurses with julia she sees wounds on him and decides to jack his medical information and call home while calling something behind the door is furiously moving and upset at the phone noise And we see behind the keyhole that there are human eyes, but they look fairly wild. After the missed call, Julia heads out to her car and then decides to start following Lucas. Concerned teacher, but there has to be a less creepy way to do this. Don't just exit the alleyway and stand there. That's gross.
Okay, so he's looking at the ice cream store and she asks him if he wants ice cream. As they start talking about ice cream being a vegetable, she mentions Lucas's brother. He asks how she knows about him and she says that teachers know everything. Then she asks about where his mother is, which she bit the dust a while ago, so there goes that line of questioning. She keeps pressuring him about his family, asking how they are.
She asks about his father and what he does, and he says that he has to go, and then tells her not to follow him next time. What a Chad. Heading home, he follows vultures circling, which, did you know, more often than not, this just means that they're actually riding air currents.
Doesn't necessarily mean that something down there has gotten got. But this time it does. As he starts collecting the shmeet, Julia now- pulls up to lucas's house there is a pretty good looking third gen camaro underneath that tarp which considering unfortunately how much it rains in oregon it may seem counterintuitive but putting a tarp on a car actually traps evaporating water underneath which will absolutely destroy the frame there's really no good way apart from a garage concerning storing a classic in oregon as julia knocks on the door to lucas's house it opens up several seconds later but is strange because the door back there is still locked up but she stands there and then hears some really strange noises coming from inside and she does the smart thing and nopes out of there before learning about what's going on hopefully other people will follow that line of thinking but probably not later that night julia gets scared by paul who apparently is mr stealthy julia apologizes to paul for skipping out on the whole fam damley back in the day but speaking of family lucas is now going to feed his dropping off some seasoned meat his father goes to attack it first and starts consuming aiden is also there who appears to be looking rather sick and also starts eating the food that was brought.
Lucas sets another lock on for the night and then calls it. Okay, so then something horrifying happens. Julia is getting accosted by what I imagine is her father, and then the dudes on the bed laying there?
No thanks. Again, Paul scares Julia, and this time from a hallucination. Julia asks Paul if Lucas's dad Frank has been caught with anything.
Julia tells Paul she heard something strange at Frank's house. Meanwhile, back at Frank's house, Aiden tells Lucas that he's still hungry and whimpers beyond the doubt. the door, so Lucas just straight up puts on some noise-canceling headphones.
The next day, roadkill isn't enough. Lucas is setting up a trap for small game when a hunter happens by Frank's original business partner. Julia now goes and checks on Lucas's desk to see if there's anything weird. Well, she finds a bunch of weird drawings and books on hunting.
She brings it to the principal, and the principal says they can't diagnose any issues personally. Julia then goes to the store to get some Bombay, probably, before running into her brother. She asks him what's going on, and he says that they found part of a man. The other half is back at the mines. Paul leaves to go to the coroner at this point.
Back at Wendigo Homestead, Aiden tells Lucas that their dad says God is dead. Lucas gives Aiden some human food, which immediately the kid starts bleeding and then coughing up that blood. And also, a little bit of side tangent, there was a Native American back in the day, I totally forget the name, who said that he could actually cure Wendigos by feeding them animal grease and animal fat.
But, it would have a lot of the same things happen. They would start coughing up blood and ice. Pretty interesting. So we also see that Frank is glowing in his chest.
So this has to be totally blurred, but Frank's partner isn't looking so great. The corner mentions how the ulna bone of the forearm has human teeth marks on it. So he has no idea what took this dude out. With this information from Julia, rather than getting the cops involved, the principal decides to go check out the glaring red flag home herself. Completely defenseless.
I hope she survives. Meanwhile at school, Lucas is carving something under his desk like a true weirdo. Entering the home, the principal is immediately met with a stink that should have alerted her to just nope out of there and call the cops. But you already know how this is going to go. Hearing crying beyond the door, she calls out to Mr. Weaver and then unlocks the several locks in the door.
Now ask yourself, How could anybody have locked themselves in there? I mean, I guess you want to go check on the son, but then why call out for Mr. Weaver, the galaxy brain on this one. Walking upstairs, she sees the kid is sitting there assuming something has happened.
She's immediately attacked by Frank, who's not looking so good, and he ends her and then immediately starts chowing down. At this point, Lucas is bonded with the Wendigo as well and starts stabbing himself with the- carving frank is now undergoing a bit of a transformation with a chest glowing and the limbs contorting before something begins exiting his mouth back at the mine as the cops begin entering they find some type of antlers and they ask a man named warren if he's seen anything like this before and he responds that he hasn't as paul radios back to his people on the outside he's getting some interference before he heads out himself meanwhile lucas is now heading home but oh no it's big red lucas tries to avoid a fight before turning around and seeing the creature in a tree. He does a smart thing and takes off running as Big Red is turned into Big Dead.
He runs home and then finds that the principal has been eaten by his dad, but also finds that his dad has basically been gutted. He follows a trail of blood to the window and then finds whatever it was has escaped. He cleans up the mess and then hides as Paul and his partner show up.
Seeing as they don't have a warrant, they can't really enter the premises. The next morning, Clint's mom, or Big Dead's mom, has shown up filing a missing person report. Julia is upset as one of her students has gone missing.
Now she's paying attention to what that kid is doing. Then she returns back. to the old Frank farmstead where she finds that the car of the principal is out front and tried to be hidden underneath the tarp.
The cops are there now and they find the principal looking worse for wear before finding Frank's body. It looks like something burst out of him and the flesh is charred. Julia waits outside and stops Lucas from going in then takes him to the hospital.
The doctor mentions how there are signs of a psychiatric crisis here and the wife confirms it as well. Julia says that she needs to help because this is her student and he has nowhere else to go. Paul says to stop putting her past on the kid because she didn't have anywhere to go either.
I mean, he is trying to help, but Julia has pretty much made up her mind, so it's time to sign some adoption papers from Papa Wendigo. But speaking of Papa Wendigo, we finally have some backstory on what happened. Frank came home and realized that he was sick with something.
He realized that he was starting to lose his grip on his sanity. Well, as much as a meth dealer can have. So rather than paying the ridiculous price of healthcare in the United States, he opted to put locks on his door and tell his sons to lock him in and not open it.
However, it appears as though Aiden eventually went in there and contracted the same disease, so Lucas was left alone. Yep, that sucks. Julie, at this point, doesn't know really what's going on, but decides to bring Lucas'drawings to Warren. Warren, being a Native American himself, asks if the kid was Native and is confused when the answer is no.
He grabs the antlers from the cave and says he has a book. He mentions how these things belong to the same thing. Essentially, a hunter went up into the mountains and was starving and then ate his companion a long time ago.
This turned him crazed and made him have an insatiable taste for human- flesh. The natives of the area were able to trap him under the ground, and when the mines were built, this freed him. Paul remarks that these are just myths, but this myth is basically stacking bodies currently. He goes on to mention how you can only take this thing out by taking out its beating heart, but that will really only send it looking for another.
On the drive back home, Paul gets a call saying that they found Big Red's body. Basically, he's been almost eaten completely in half, and this is starting to concern Paul just a little bit. He goes to talk to Julia, but says that there must be a reasonable explanation.
Julia requests that Paul take her to go pick up Lucas at this point, and this kid is looking rough. That night, the deputy pulls up outside of Paul's house to keep an eye on things while Paul continues to try to figure out what's happening. Inside of the house, Julia attempts to talk to Lucas while the deputy keeps an eye on things outside.
While out there, he ends up hearing something in the woods. So this guy knows people are getting eaten in half and then goes to check on it like a total gigachad. Lucas then goes on to tell Julia that he needs to feed his dad and that will make him love him.
Kind of a strange statement. He then hands Julia the book of drawings saying that his dad is coming for him to take him to the mines just as a screech is heard beyond the wood line. The deputy clearly doesn't know what a defensible position is and decides to walk around out there anyhow. Although Wendigos can't open doors, so, eh, how defensible is defensible? Calling back to Paul, he alerts him that something is there as he goes to check in the shed.
Julia then takes Lucas and attempts to hide him. Lucas talks about seeing his brother, to which the deputy then finds him in the shed. Of course, as he says the kid is in here, the Wendigo hits him through the chest with the antlers, taking him out.
Paul arrives now and begins to search the property, putting on body armor. smart man, he finds the deputy in the shed before being attacked himself. However, the Wendigo is unable to hit any important stuff, so is only able to knock him out after smacking into the boards behind his head.
And I'll tell you, an antler through the bicep looks painful as crap. So now player three exits the cabin. Julia heads out there, not smart, and takes a look around.
Also approaching the same shack, she finds Paul, but he's still alive, just bleeding. She moves him and then wraps his bicep. It's actually amazing that it didn't hit the break you'll artery. I mean, you bleed out in like 30 seconds if that gets hit.
Lucas gets nabbed at this point, so Julia goes to find him in the mines. Entering the mines, she sees bags tied up to the ceiling. Obviously, this is a little strange, so she continues moving through.
The scent begins to get to her as she finds animals strewn amongst the old mining gear. Finding Lucas and Aiden, she sees the Wendigo snacking on something. Having a face over its face, it stands up and then smacks her down.
Thus ensues a massive waste of ammunition. Popping a flare, it scares the creature as fire is its weakness. She is able to get in some jabs before going after the heart of the creature.
It rips out the pole as it appears to have missed but Lucas is able to stab it a few times to bring it down for good as Julia rolls it over to finish the job. She removes the heart a pop of wins in front of Lucas, not traumatic at all, before hearing Aiden start yelling. Remember destroying the heart only sends it to find another, which it now has taken over Aiden.
As she approaches she tells Lucas it isn't her brother anymore and eventually he relents. She hugs Aiden, which I wouldn't be doing the same, before stabbing him in the back the back, ending the Wendigo curse as there's nowhere else for the spirit to go, or so she thinks. After the fight, Paul asks Julia what they need to do with the kid.
Considering the kid has nowhere else to go, she says keep him. As Paul starts coughing, we see he begins to cough up blood as he's been chosen next on who wants to be a Wendigo. God, that was a lame reference. The dad jokes are getting worse.
Maybe I've been possessed by the dad spirit. All right, so it's time to learn way more about Wendigos than you ever thought possible, because in reality, who knows what's out there, and there does seem to be a lot of stories about them. So I bet y'all didn't know I actually do love cryptids and have always wanted to talk about them but really had no idea how to incorporate them into this channel.
But with having just covered Krampus and Pumpkinhead way back in the day, screw it, let's jump into some supernatural aspects and possibly some that really do look like a disease. Then we will wrap- it up by telling you how to actually survive a Wendigo attack for all those who may be out in the woods one night. Just going to say, humans are persistent hunters, but Wendigos are more persistent.
So let's first start with the transmission of the Wendigo spirit and how it impacts humans physically as well as psychologically because this aspect of it does appear to at least quasi have biological roots. The concept of the Wendigo and the resulting psychosis is something in humanity that has its basis in potentially natural drives within everyone. Typically undesirable traits to the group as a whole. whole were warned against in stories as if you indulged in them the windigo spirit would come to you during humans evolutionary history cooperation and preserving your specific group is something that would be held with the utmost importance seeing as your survival and the survivals of others hinged upon this this is why homo sapiens are highly social creatures which is why we were able to out-compete neanderthals due to their lessened social ability As we formed larger and larger groups of people, working together became pretty much the name of the game. However, invariably other disorders would seem to arise within our species.
Selfishness and greed, for one thing, have been with us since the beginning. But many people would overcome this to put forth what they needed to the group to be accepted and maintain the protection and benefits of cooperating with the group. However, those who would only take and never give would ultimately be ostracized from any type of group that formed and sent out into the wilderness to be on their own, where if anyone was presented this fate, at least back in the day, they would likely perish due to the fact that it's just a giant cluster out there with animals taking out animals.
This is why, believe it or not, most humans have no issue working together or helping a group and why it's so easy to spot those who do not seem to fit into that group. In more enlightened times, we know that there is typically neurologically something different about these people, so we do not ostracize them into the wilderness and they are allowed to exist within society, but they typically have fewer connections than normal that may be socially abandoned, but still benefiting as a whole from human society. Things like sociopathy, for instance, where they really view others as a means to an end, wind up in this category of people as those who do not suffer from sociopathy would almost detect that something is off. By the way, I've seen this stupid TikTok trend where it's like, oh, I'm an empath at a party and I recognize the person has sociopathy and nobody else does.
Yeah, that's just rooted in narcissism. Empathy in the human species is very common. People.
always can usually tell when something is off. And if you think you're special because you're, oh, I'm empathetic, you're actually just narcissistic. I'm sorry.
That is just the most annoying trend I've ever seen in my life. Anyways, however, that's today with basically accepting most people into the group. Back in the day, warnings were given to those people as nobody had a clue about neurology or how the brain would function.
So the concept of the Wendigo began to form. Anyone exhibiting behaviors that are selfish, greedy, lustful, basically in it for themselves rather than the- the group could be infected by the Wendigo spirit. One such example is those engaging in acts of cannibalism. Should a person choose to eat a companion, this is seen as the most self-serving act of all, which will absolutely get you infected by the Wendigo spirit.
For the last several hundred years, we actually have something to refer to this, and it's called Wendigo psychosis. And this has been... argued up until about the 1980s, which even still, it has not been completely settled as to why it afflicts humanity.
Several reports ranging from people butchering their families and consuming them to just things as simple as getting stuck out on a hunting trip on a mountain and then having no other choice. One of the more interesting aspects of the Wendigo psychosis, however, would have to be the Jesuit. its report after being in a situation where they had no other choice but to resort to cannibalism back in 1661 and actually i'm going to read you an excerpt from that what caused us greater concern was the news that met us upon entering the lake namely that the men deputed by our own conductor for the purpose of summoning the nations to the north sea and assigning them a rendezvous where they were to await our coming and they had met their death the previous winter in a very strange manner Those poor men, according to the report given to us, were seized with an ailment unknown to us, but not very unusual among the people that we were seeking.
They are afflicted with neither lunacy, hypochondria, nor frenzy, but have a combination of all these species of disease, which affects their imaginations and causes them a more than canine hunger. This makes them so ravenous for human flesh that they pounce upon women, children, and even upon men, like veritable werewolves, and devour them voraciously without being able to appease or... glut their appetite.
Ever seeking fresh prey, the more greedily the more they eat. This ailment attacked our deputies and, as death is the sole remedy among those simple people for checking such acts of murder, they were slain in order to stay the course of their madness. So yeah, that's pretty interesting.
In the movie Antlers, it's pretty clear it was the greed of man to reopen the mines that released the Wendigo spirit as made mention in the beginning where humans were stripping the land of materials and order for their own gain to be achieved. However, wrong place, wrong time, a bunch of meth dealers or makers were in the area. The thing about pursuing that lifestyle is you are literally creating a poison which others will buy to their own detriment to support yourself.
So the Wendigo's spirit at this point doesn't really care what form of greed or self-serving reason it is, it just cares that it exists. Thus the two dealers were the first to enter their own possession by the Wendigo. Or at least one of them was.
From here, the Windigo spreads much like an infection does. The first thing I want to point out is the Windigo spirit just needs greed to be in the heart of man to take hold. However, what the dealers were hearing in the cave system sounded alive and very much so corporeal, meaning it has a body, which seems to throw an issue into this whole movie, but does suggest this is an infectious disease potentially, which means containment and possibly curing it, maybe on the horizon.
But let's first talk about the mines and why I believe there was already a wind to go there. First and foremost, the actual growling and clicking that can be heard in the mine system. The spirit isn't known to make these noises, but an actual person infected is.
It is also mentioned how it was trapped there, seeing as some hunters on a mountain a long time ago were contained, as made mention by Warren. This says to me that they were not in fact dealing with a spirit, but something physically attracted to them, which is going to have to be a literal physical Wendigo. This would also imply that even though they have essentially taken out the Wendigo that they know about that was plaguing them, and even with Paul having physically been infected by it, there is still another one out there infecting. I believe this has some merit, seeing as Frank's partner was quite literally torn in half and brought out in the woods, while Frank isolated himself and was still very much so in control at the beginning. So, That problem is absolutely not solved as of yet.
Moving on to the actual infection, let's discuss for a moment what happens, or seems to happen anyways, to the human body during the infection process. White antlers seem to follow a different pathway concerning what an actual Wendigo looks like. When a person has been infected by the spirit, this induces Wendigo psychosis as mentioned previously, which ultimately will result in their transformation into the Wendigo. But the Wendigo spirit seems to rely on greed or some misdeed to actually manifest itself properly.
Whereas an infection by a Wendigo seems to take a different pathway, a much more pathophysiological outcome, if you will. When a person infected with the Wendigo disease bites, stabs, or in any way causes a person to bleed, it would definitely appear to me that something physical enters their body. A type of microorganism not yet identified by humanity. This may even be the spirit that we hear about concerning back in the day.
the day. We had no concept of germ theory back then or what even caused illness in the first place. This disease entering the body would not result in the Wendigo we see concerning antlers, but in something else entirely, which let's go on a side tangent real quick to make this distinction. The Wendigo we see in antlers is not so much the generalized real depiction of Wendigos that originated within the North Americas as told by the legends of the first nations. Now, a little bit of caveat to this, there are a ton of different ways this thing has been suggested to look, but the generalized accepted way that they appeared was kind of like the ones from Until Dawn.
Those Wendigos in particular are more in line with what we see. as what the Native Americans used to talk about. Their skin was ashen, their faces and eyes sunken against their skull.
Their hunger was completely ravenous and they craved the flesh of humans. Completely forsaking their own humanity, they would appear long and lanky with claws and extended limbs. They were larger than your average human and had strength far beyond what you would expect them to have, which by the way, we will definitely be talking about the Until Dawn Wendigos in the future.
But these Wendigos appeared human somewhat, but also behaved like animals. Now, the Wendigo we see in antlers actually has its roots inspired by European cultures mixing with First Nation folktales. You see, werewolves is something Europeans have feared for a very long time. Coming over to North America, these cultures would mix and combine to change the look of the Wendigo into something that we see in antlers.
Instead of being tall and lanky, the Wendigo is still tall and emaciated somewhat, but instead of having like a wolf's... head it has a deer's head again the caveat to all this is different peoples of north america had different ideas of what the wendigo actually looked like but more often than not it did not have antlers all right moving on because of the changes we see when the infection enters the body it would appear to me first thing that it does is begin to change the body in a way to create a growth from within this would suggest that the actual infection process is viral seeing as it has to change human cells into team wendigo We get quick glimpses of what's happening concerning Frank. The body does attempt to put up an immune response, but it appears largely unsuccessful from the drop.
This would imply that the virus has a way of sidestepping the human immune system. And this can take place in several different ways. The first is the destruction of the CD4 and CD8 T cells.
Once the virus enters the body, it would begin infecting these cells, meaning no immune response could actually be launched. However, I think something else might be going on as well as it enters the body. Now, again, this is all supernatural, or at least it is perceived to be, but kind of one of the things you can think about is bring somebody back from the 1400s and turn on a TV with a remote, and they will accuse you of witchcraft. Typically, what humanity doesn't understand is always seemingly supernatural.
Assuming it to be a hypothesized virus in mind, it would likely hit in several ways, concerning more than just the CD4 and CD8 T-cells. Instead, it would likely interfere with the production of interferon. Upon your infection, the virus enters your regular cells, implants genetic coding that is then transcribed into your DNA, and then changes the fundamental functioning of the cell.
This would be step one. The cell, realizing it is infected, typically would call out for its destruction to the immune system by producing something known as interferon. However, should this be blocked, the immune system would not understand the extent of the attack or know that it's already completely saturated with the virus.
On top of this, the virus may also infect dendritic cells, which report back pieces of the virus in order for antibodies to be made, which if you didn't know, you're... body has the ability to make antibodies to every single virus known or unknown in the world, possibly on other planets, because of the laws of physics, which is just awesome. Anyways, blocking this critical interaction, the body would continue to have cells hijacked by the virus and would not respond in time.
Any response would likely be nothing more than the innate response, which unfortunately is not very effective at large scale. infections. The innate would quickly be overwhelmed in a few days and with the adaptive immune system never having been activated, this would lead to the infection pretty much running rampant. This is why at first, physical symptoms manifest as something likened to a cold. Paul began coughing up blood for instance, which is a really bad cold, which hints at destruction of the blood vessels within the lungs.
Something the innate, upon activation of its inflammatory pathways, is capable of producing. Or when Frank started dealing with his Wendigo infection, he was shown to be shaking and having body aches. Again, the body is fully reacting to something infecting it, but eventually it is overwhelmed.
Once the innate has been depleted and the adaptive never having been activated due to critical areas lost by the virus, a new phase of infection would be entered. So again, original Wendigos involve the body of the person transforming, which I much more prefer that lore, but in Antlers, these Wendigos present differently from this depiction. After infection, the hijack sells a appear to congregate in the middle of the chest as seen with the bioluminescence there. It would appear to me that the heart and lungs would still power the body but a type of cancer which would be the Wendigo itself would begin to grow. These are essentially human cells with the extra coating of the Wendigo in them.
As this mass continues to grow it produces chemicals within the body obviously as we can see and continues to grow. Acquisition cells from the body as well as new incoming meat would continue to grow this mass until it begins to take shape like an embryo of sorts. It's clear at this point that the behavior of the person is also altered. The brain of the person seemingly suffers heavily concerning damage to critical regions associated with control, but some areas are still functional. Impulse control in the frontal cortex would be destroyed likely through issues associated with immune response, such as, you guessed it, it's everyone's favorite symptom, meningitis, or the inflammation of the meninges.
This brain damage would cause a person to eventually fall back on their instincts as higher thought was lost, as other areas of the cerebrum were also impacted. This would also cause a person to be sensitive to light, which is seen as a apparently causes immense pain but also experience extreme hunger as the hypothalamus was kicked into overdrive forcing them to eat anything all stemming from the Requests of the body being controlled by the wendigo fetus within their chest and stomach region as the infection continues to progress Eventually more pronounced symptoms would occur within the body the stress of growing this thing would result in hair loss as all nutrition is directed To the embryo the skin does turn ashen and gray as blood flow is likely being also directed to the growth within the torso and abdomen an area until ultimately they lose all their humanity due to this infection and will attack and eat other humans in order to satiate their starvation because they are quite literally starving due to nutrition being directed elsewhere. It's like having tapeworms. They steal all of the nutrients that you would be getting.
We also see blood vessels destruction in the later stages when Frank is having black veins run all over his body and pronounced bruising. And then we can also see the earliest symptoms with Paul as he coughs up a bit of blood showing that the infection is starting to impact his meat suit. Once the body has been used up and the embryo has grown enough, eventually it will exit the body by bursting through the mouth, neck, chest, and abdomen. The growth of this creature not only produces light, but this light appears to be associated with heat as well, considering the burst of the body. This point is charred and hot to the touch once the creature exits.
The person at this point ceases to be and the Wendigo has come into the world. The Wendigo, however, is still loosely human. The cells themselves have been converted and changed from human, which means that human DNA is still at play.
But another competing form of genetic coding has resulted in changes that are clearly seen, and I guess what could be considered the offspring. This combination results in a chimeric beast, part human, part animal. Which, let's discuss the morphology for a moment, shall we?
Now, it's hard to see in a lot of ways, and I don't want my editor having to work three years to use the same footage over and over again to get the point across, but essentially the Wendigo stands around 90 inches tall, which is 7.5 feet. So, 3 inches taller than Master Chief in full Mjolnir armor, because I love that metric. And speaking of metric, that comes out to 2.28 meters tall.
The Wendigo has digit-grade structuring, and despite looking like a deer, it does not have hooves, but instead walks on the balls of its feet. The Wendigo is very lithe-looking, having lanky- but muscular limbs, and in several areas the bone can be seen from the vertebral column, which extends through the skin. The abdominal area is completely sucked in seeing as growth has made it appear very emaciated.
The torso is large, roughly twice or even possibly three times the size of a human torso in circumference. This implies that the creature is growing within the human body and that once it exits, it's almost like a juvenile form but then grows quickly from there the more it eats, which is actually how the First Nations would talk about the Wendigo. They would grow in size proportional to what they ate, meaning that they were always hungry and never satisfied, causing them to become more ravenous in what they needed to consume. The arms are quite literally the length of an average adult male, and with the hands being over a foot in length, tipped with razor-sharp claws, this can easily slash a person likely in half, which is probably what happened to the meth dealer.
The neck area is fairly interesting. Due to the bone growth and how quickly this creature must grow to allow for its size that quickly, it can almost be compared to a form of bone cancer at this point. There are a set of ribs that protect the neck of this beast, and all over the back of the neck, a mismatch or webbing of bone exists.
The antlers come from this bone growth itself, and can be used for stabbing and ramming like we saw with the deputy in the shed. However, they have difficulty piercing armored individuals, such as when Paul put on his body armor, but due to the random formations, they can hit other areas such as the arms of armed individuals. The skull is deer-like in some respects, or maybe even canine. Although I would say it is more deer-like, seeing as the teeth are flat in some areas and then sharp in others, but this is very clearly inspired by the human DNA component of us being omnivores. Intellectually, the Wendigo is not something to be trifled with.
Having come from one of the smartest species on the planet, it still seems to possess and retain some form of this intellect. With your more accepted Wendigos coming from the same body, they still have the ability to speak and taunt humans before moving into the actual meat of why they're hunting. With the antler's Wendigo, it definitely still retains some form of this intellect, but seems to have lost the ability to taunt humans with it.
with its speech, instead preferring to growl and click to herd humans into certain areas. It appears to have retained some memory of his children though, seeing as Frank appeared to love his kids and so the Wendigo actively searches for Lucas once it has been set free. This results in Big Red getting completely eaten alive when picking on Lucas, which the lesson here is don't pick on people or a Wendigo will come and eat you. But it also shows that the Wendigo did not harm Lucas and instead wanted to take him back to the mines, which Lucas understands later on as Julia tries to hide him in the the house. Now, an argument could be made that the Wendigo just wants more infections, which obviously could be the case.
But the other side of that coin is if it really just came down to infections, it could have literally taken anyone back to the mines, but instead chose to bring back Frank's sons and then just ate everyone else that came into contact with. So now let's answer what I promised that I would. How do you even survive an encounter with- either the antlers windigo or one where you decide to go camping on top of a mountain for the night and thought oh this would be a good idea despite everyone saying hey you know there's a windigo up there to which you probably just told them yeah but it's just a stupid myth well for the most part you're absolutely boned like i mentioned earlier take humans persistent hunting and extrapolate that out to something several times faster than you several times stronger than you and several times hungrier than you this coupled with the fact that windigos still retain a lot of their human intellect means that their hunting ability is far beyond that of a normal animal and rivals or surpasses humans, at least in capabilities. But should you basically just be the Dutch of the group fighting Predator and somehow get lucky enough to survive the opening confrontation, there are several things that you can do to help your chances, even if it's just by a fraction.
First, you have to know your enemy. Wendigos, even being close to them, can induce psychosis in your brain case. They can make you hallucinate, react overly aggressive, and in general, mess with your mental capacity, meaning you are going to have to attempt to think clearly despite your brain misfiring.
Think like Isaac Clarke with the marker. That's basically what a Wendigo does to your brain. This is your brain on Wendigo, kids.
But the key is to attempt to stabilize your thinking and not forget what's on your mind. tail. It is said the longer a Wendigo is after you, the more vacant your mind will become, like a form of dementia.
So no matter what, your time is limited on how long you can remain functional concerning neurological activity. So the key is to try to get this thing off you quick. If you meet it and run away and survive, then your fate is sealed as insanity cannot be treated.
On top of this, any people with you are capable of being altered by the Wendigo's psychosis because they are human just like you. This means that if someone mentally may be weaker, they may turn on their friends and family and begin butchering everyone they know, leaving themselves as easy game for the Wendigo and your bodies as a nice snack. Coupled with this, the Wendigo can stir up snowstorms and tornadoes when close, which it can use to slow you down or trap you. which once it gets close, you might think that you can fight it.
Well, I hope you have some silver handy. Hand-to-hand or force multipliers are also off the table as well in most instances. These things can easily tear you apart, like literally pull off your arm in front of you, rip off your legs from your pelvis, or even grab your head and show you a nice third-person view of what your body looks like.
The only thing possible to put these things down for good, much like with werewolves actually, and even then, there's an entire ritual you have to perform, is going to be silver. You have to stab their heart with a silver knife or polearm or axe or anything that is going to get deep enough to pierce its heart. Once it has been hit, the creature is officially wounded.
With that said, you still have to deal with the Wendigo spirit. You must remove the heart of this creature, cut it up into pieces, place it in a silver box, and bury it in a churchyard. But wait, there's even more than that.
To stop it from regenerating even without its heart, or maybe you just were sloppy and missed a piece, you literally have to dismember it, salt and burn the body, and then bury it. Only then will the creature be officially put down. Anything short of this, and I mean anything, the spirit will jump to others and it'll basically respawn, causing the hunt to begin again. The insanity you suffer at this point is permanent. After taking out a Wendigo, there is no recovering, just baseline symptoms that will always be present till you drop.
This is not to say with all this that the Wendigo does not have a weakness which you can exploit. Wendigos have very poor eyesight. Because of this, if you stand still, it can't find you. But it will still skulk around the area and if it bumps into you, you're done.
Also, if you accidentally make eye contact with it, it does not matter how still you stand, it will instantly recognize you as human and take you out. So, how do you survive with all this? Your best option would be, obviously, don't go walking around areas known to harbor legends about Wendigos. But if you've already done this and it's on your tail, First Strike is the best option. If you are out in the open, it will toy with you at first, decreasing your ability to think.
Actively search for it at this point, but be ready to fight and probably expire if you do. When you find it, aim for the heart. If you do have a force multiplier, or if you have a spear, stab it.
This will wound the Wendigo, giving you a chance to do the next thing you need to do, which is find silver. If you already have silver on you, then congratulations, here's what you need to do. If you are near like a store or home or building, raid for anything you can, but you need to melt the silver down and make it sharp. Fix it to a spear. You're probably not going to create a bullet out in the wilderness, but just know that while you've been doing all this, the Wendigo has likely completely healed.
Meeting it again, go for the same space, though odds are of you pulling this off twice is not very high. Once the heart is stabbed, it'll be mortally injured as silver is its weakness. Cut the heart apart. apart and then conduct the ritual as mentioned before.
One of the issues you'll have to contend with while this is happening is the Wendigo spirit will stay trying to possess you. This will continue to have an impact on your thinking, but as long as you realize the corporeal Wendigo isn't on you, you might be able to power through. Everyone at the church is going to think you're a raving lunatic when you show up with a heart in a box also, so good luck with that.
So it's best to find a cemetery with a church attached because this is hallowed ground and will destroy the Wendigo spirit. Once you manage this, you will be free, but again, your baseline neurological condition is going to be very, very low. levels will remain distorted, begging the question, is it really worth surviving an attack at all? Also, remember to get this done quick, because if you don't, the physical Wendigo can be remade in another, which the spirit will be attempting to find so the clock is ticking. Considering how much it takes to survive a Wendigo attack, the luck, the missing swings, it not tearing you apart immediately, you happening to have silver being close to a church, and finding the Wendigo quick enough to put it down before you completely lose your marbles, I hate to say it, but you may just be screwed on that one.
Unless there's like an active government entity who's willing to throw resources at it, but then again, they'd probably just be really waiting until you expire and then trap the creature. Or just straight up using you as bait. Basically, not looking good.