body um thank you for joining us tonight in our jcu webinar series and this uh presentation tonight will be on veter Sciences my name is David simock I'm the dean of the College of Public Health Medical and veter Sciences here at jcu and I'll be your MC for tonight I acknowledge the um traditional owners of the lands on which we live and work I acknowledge the Australian aborig and torist trade Islander peoples as the first inhabitants of this country and pay my respects to the traditional owners and Elders past and present of the land on which we stand today in the spirit of reconciliation I also acknowledge the valuable contribution that Australian Aboriginal and torist straight Islander peoples continue to make to James Cook University and the broader Community now for some housekeeping before we get started if you have any questions during the presentation please type them into the Q&A box in your Zoom control panel and I'll address these with our speakers as they arise we also wish to advise that tonight's presentation there are there may be use of some graphic and sensitive images and content so viewer discretion is strongly recommended tonight presenting we have um John Cavalier an associate professor and acade and the academic head for veterinary sciences and Grace Shing Francis a fourth year Bachelor of veterinary sciences students first we'll be hearing from John he's a um passionate about all things research and enjoys teaching about reproductive function and how to optimize fertility and domestic animals he's a fantastic teacher he's won several College awards for his um teaching press and he loves helping students to develop their practical skills in pregnancy diagnosis fertility and evaluation of animals and their fertility status how to optimize this and how to troubleshoot reproductive problems he leads the animal health and reprodu production group and he helps in clinical placements so he's a wealth of knowledge on everything vety Sciences really John's research focuses on ways of improving results to artificially inseminate cattle and discovering new information about reproductive function in animals tonight John will discussing the course structure placement opportunities and application process of of um to enter veter sciences and how the specialist skills and knowledges you'll develop in this course will help you set you help set you apart from your industry peers then we will then go on to hear from Grace who's a fourth year Bachelor of veterinary sciences student and she'll share with us her personal Journey about becoming a current veterinary science student at JC you Grace is passionate about all creatures great and small and her journey accomplishments and learnings throughout her time studying here at James courot University and nothing short of inspiring so we look forward to hearing hearing from her and her firsthand experiences of the course Grace will share her learnings her highlights insight and truth about what the day in the life of a vetenary science student at jcu looks like so without further Ado I'd like to now warmly welcome John to start his presentation on veterinary science hi everyone uh welcome to this webinar as David said my name is John Cavalier and I'm currently the academic head of um the Bentley School James CL universe and you probably all joined for a variety of reasons this evening and as David said if you have questions put them in the Q&A and will try and answer them toward the end of [Music] the um just wanted to start by saying um jcu is one of the seven vety schools in Australia um we're located up in um near Townsville in North Queensland and because of our location we're one of the well we're the only veter School in the country to be located in a tropical region that gives us a special Focus here on issues that face tropical environments but also around the world there's not too many vety schools that are located within tropical environment so the experience that you would have in Townsville is kind of unique um and and we think it's special so um we'll um talk about a little bit more in this webinar some of the things that make being a vety student in town s just that little bit special um our goals um with the veter program is to help students to be um world class in both their knowledge and their skills um when you graduate we want you to be work ready and that's important to us and um we blend that philosophy all the way through our with and because of that you need to be able to be trained and be prepared to adapt um and apply your knowledge to a whole variety of situations and um so it's not just one specific task that we'll be doing there multiple tasks that we'll be doing and our goal is to a to prepare you for all of those things um in order to do that um you need to be uh knowledgeable across a broad area range of areas things that you may not have thought of before so you need to be technically competent you need to be able to work with your hands um you need to be able to solve problems we need to be able to communicate um with the public with Scientists um a whole variety of um different environments um you also usually have to work as part of a team so it's important that we incorporate into your training um aspects of how to be a good team member sometimes we talk to employers about what what sort of training do you want veterinarians to have and very many of them say um to be good communicators because that's that's one of the issues that's really important in private practice they also need to be lifelong Learners know how to search for information you won't always have all the information with you you won't know everything that you need to know so you need to be able to have the school skills to find out um new information and which and to sort through that information so we need to give you practice and develop your competence in that area uh a lot of vety practices are small businesses Farms are small businesses various Enterprises that you work with as veterinarians are also businesses so you need to be business aware when you make a decision how will it impact on the economic viability of the businesses that you're working with so we need to help you and train you in those areas as well and as well as manage other people's stuff you need to manage your own stuff so you need to be um sustainable so it's no point if you're burn yourself out in the first year you need to um develop the skills that enable you to keep working work happily for a whole lifetime so we try to build that into you but also while you're here we want you to have a life and have fun so having fun together is important and it also is conducive for learning in order to deliver that we have some um learning strategies and philosophies that we like to try apply as as we teach and as you learn we're very focused on outcomes what we mean by that is what are you going to be doing when you finish and how do we help need to help you get there so we focus our curriculum on what areas that are going to be important when you graduate we're very big on authentic learning what this means is that the stuff you'll be doing in the course you'll be doing when you finish the course and it will mimic or be the same or similar to what happens in the real world so that's important to us um there's a lot of skill that you're going to have to develop if you think of surgery writing um giving advice about medicine interpreting laboratory tests whole range of skills that that you've got to develop they take time to to develop you also need confidence in applying those skills so we start from the very first year within a month of your coming in we get you interacting with animals to start with so that you can start to build those skills confidence to be able to say L and humanely handle animals and that's important to us and so that's just one of the skills but there are other skills and so over the whole five years of the program we're what we call scaffolding those skills we're building building building so that by the end you you end up outside of the course ready to start work and to solve problems and uh to work as of nearing participator learning um working with others working in group solving problems together giving presentations these are all part of our educational experience and approach our staff here at James Cook University I think are relatively approachable students can walk into my office um they can approach our staff um on on a needs basis we like to keep those um opportunities for communication open so that if they have a problem we want to hear about it sooner rather than later um and and um enjoy or some of the C life celebrations we learn about so we like to hear about those as well so staff are accessible and that's important to us in order to do this it's a bit like a jigsaw I guess so our big goals are foundational knowledge building the blocks that build a a professional career and a degree but along the way we want to have some Adventure we want to build those skills and the focus is on developing those skills so we need clinical experience real well experience so part of that some of the things I've talked about all work together as part of this jigsaw to um ensure that we develop those outcomes but it's very student focused and outcomes focused so that's and we're very um concentrating on what the goal needs to be what we want it to be in order to do that there's a whole diversity of skills that you'll have to learn I've just mentioned a few of those here mentioned some about anesthesia so how to make an animal go to sleep and wake it back up again that's not easy but you'll learn how to do that microbiology looking at bugs and how to um grow them identify them test them for antibiotic sensitivity surgery Diagnostic Imaging how to operate ultrasounds x-rays interpret those um reports that you get um communication skills so how to Rite do consults how to communicate with people that may give you when you might have to give bad news to others about their animal how would you do that if someone's angry how would you deal with them um you've got to work have skills to work with farmers in a production animal sense pathology doing postmortem examinations a whole range of skills that you'll have to develop over the five so you could say it's very it's a very Hands-On course and we pride ourselves on that I I should say that sometimes it involves hands in and uh there'll be times when you'll be doing pregnancy testing surgery um and very many things that involve getting your hands dirty of course with gloves and things but it's a very applied course and I think that makes it um quite a special experience at the University running all the way through our course is what we call the Rec career development program and we're very proud of this course um it helps to build resilience um within our students it helps them to be mentally prepared for the workforce and the challenges that life brings against them it teaches them about e ethics about entrepreneur entrepreneurship um consultation schools leadership adaptability whole range of things and we've built this in from year one all the way year five in fact when we started this course when the fet school first started here in 2006 we were one of the first fet schools in the world to actually embed this into every year of the program at that point in time fed schools were thinking about it playing sort of dabbling in a little bit and sometimes it was this one day two day three day course concentrated thing but no one was doing it as Faris know all the way through the course and we started that here at James CL University but lot of our most other vegetals are doing it now but we were one of the first places to start well there's a whole range of careers that you could do as a vet once you graduate you and it's great that there's such a diversity of career opportunities many of our graduates do work in private practice in vety clinics but others also work in agriculture and talk about nutrition artificial breeding um talking to Farmers to help improve their productivity pharmaceutical companies um Animal Welfare zoos quarantine you've all heard of Aquis and border security and things like that well there are vets behind the scene actively working there to keep our borders safe the food that you eat um it's generally you can rely on it as being safe when you go to the supermarket well to ensure that safety there's a whole group of vets and whole system behind that Supermarket shelf that's protecting the public and so vets have an important role to play play there um some vets are involved in teaching in schools and universities um the good thing is that most uh forecasts are that there should be plenty of jobs for vets in the future right now both here and overseas um the industry Can't Get Enough vets so there's a big demand for vets and that's in your favor so the chances of getting a job are very very high um if if you graduate through jamesp University um you can work in New Zealand United Kingdom Ireland South Africa um and you also have the possibility of working in other countries like the United States but you may have to sit some additional examinations um for example I worked in the United States for nearly three years and I was able to do that as a graduate from an Australia and bany school our course is divided up into there's five years um in that five years we go through a progression that builds students knowledge in year one and two there's a lot of foundational knowledge that um we need to help our students come to grips with because that that sets a strong basis for the other years which are focused more on clinical application of that knowledge so in year one there's subjects called like veter professional life which teaches you something the animal handling the communication skills gives you a broad exposure of the industry but we also have other subjects that are focused more on biology and chemistry and some students um have come through High School haven't had any biology so this gives them some expressure to biology chemistry is a prerequisite for entry but in year one um there's a little bit more chemistry to help strengthen those foundations um as I mentioned there's a lot of animal handling that goes on in first year and most of these pictures are from first year students um learning about animal handling um looking at a diversity of species from um cattle to small cats and dogs pigs Wildlife there's one there of fish as well so a whole diversity of exposure to different animal species when we get into year two it's a little bit again it's more about what's normal and we do a lot of anatomy what's called physiology how the various organ systems in the body work and we get into year three it's still a lot of normal stuff but we start to deal more with the abnormal what does what happens when an animal gets sick what causes what are the different diseases that cause him to get sick how do you recognize those diseases and then in year four a little bit more of that but how do you treat those diseases and manage them so you get see it progression from the basic physiology and the anatomy the foundational subjects what is normal in the different domestic animals and then we're progressing on to the abnormal and the diseases and then how to manage them then when we get to final year it's how to apply that knowledge so let's have a look at that in year five now that you've got all of that knowledge you're developing those skills now we put you in the real world so it's an opportunity to put those skills into practice um before you go into the as a you start getting paid as as a Deb this year is probably the most enjoyable for students because they they can see the ending site and they're really Keen to practice and so they have some wonderful opportunities and they rotate through three different modules one is focused on companion animals or small animals another one is focused on horses and cattle and animal production and then another one is f focused on diagnostic service such as pathology but also dairy cattle practice up at Manda so it's a whole range of experiences in your part now built into that there's what we call extra mural placements and elective experiences so students go all over the place um getting extra experience many of them do go overseas and here's some pictures of some of our students who've gone overseas um and enjoying um applying their knowledge Lear about different areas but also having some fun same time during the course we expose you to a range of animal Industries and environments so sometimes there are field trips sometimes we do it at James Cook University this is a farm visit from year three from a number of years ago the students spent the whole year whole whole week not the whole year whole week touring Farms as part of the course um we have our training at James University we call this intramural training and then we also have extramural training which is outside of the University um and outside of the normal teaching year sometimes most of the so the intramural training um in years 1 to four we're transitioning to what's called a trimester based system and this involves 3 by1 weeks 10 weeks study periods situated throughout the year in year five this is um it's not separated into those modules as clearly but it's about 31 weeks of training across those three modules that I mentioned earlier on top of that outside of the normal university year students are required to get farm and clinical placement experience in the first three years they've got to do 12 weeks of farm and Industry placement and this is again outside of the University time and then when they when they've successfully completed year three they've got to do 10 weeks of what we call clinical placements and that's outside of the University usually in veter practices but it can be um in diagnostic laboratories uh zoos wildlife and things like that as long as there's a veterinarian that's supervising them we often will approve those placements and they can be in Australia or out of Australia um but they do have to be approved um but if you have a suggestion we do consider it and then we'll decide whether to approve it this is just showing some students in one animal museum extracurricular activities um the students have their own Students Association and they organize a whole range of um activities from balls to sporting events to various social things from time to time and this is just a picture of some of them that they B most so they're quite active in the program this is just more pictures of developing clinical skills some of the things that if you come to jcu and you're a veter student you'll be involved in all of these things um you can see a range of them there from working with animals um Imaging and um a range of things again more clinical skills uh looking at the center slide there we're looking at abnormal organs that may or may not be diseased take learning to take blood samples learning to horses Birds whole variety of animals um we do quite a bit of pregnancy testing so um we start on abire specimens and then we progress to live animals and we do that in both cattle and forces why do we do it it's because this is what veterinarians need to know how to do so our students SP spend quite a bit of time learning how to do that develop their confidence develop their skills our veterinarians also involved in delivering cars and babies I should say so we simulate um that environment how would you go about doing that and um teaching them putting the the the animals in different positions so they learn to correct that so it's a very Hands-On focused course surgical skills animals um practice on models um specimens and then they also do live animal surgery as well in the later year year of their course in the last year so there's a progression from the model to the simulator and into the live animal over time we have a range of facilities that support our educational program here one of them is our veter Emergency Center and hospital that's located on site um at the University here and all of our students rotate through the clinic there in their final year there's also a little bit of teaching occasionally that goes on during the earlier years um but this is great because it's very close to where um we're located and um it's convenient for students if they're staying in Townsville we also have a center up at Mander on the table lands and students currently spend all spend three weeks at milanda and that's principally exposure to dairy cattle practice and um both Consulting farm animal work and also looking at individual sick animals and herd health so going out to the Farms with the vets and trying to solve problems and also practicing their skills Townsville veter clinic located in Townsville all our students spend two weeks there doing um principally horse um clinical experience under the supervision of the Vets there and that's where primarily they get their their basic grounding in um clinical um work with horses now if we look at um the performance of James University compared to the other veter schools in the country um we're perhaps a little bit smaller but we punch well above our weight this is a national survey of students and graduates that occurs every year these are the results of the last survey and how jcu Compares I just get you to look at the blue bars on the left hand side of each of those columns so overall if you look at the one on the left jcu rated higher than all the other veter schools in the country overr so this was quite an achievement for us um we're very proud of it um and it's something that's not very well known but um it does suggest that we are doing something well here if you look at the next group of slide a group of bars students were very positive about the skills that they developed at jcu we're well above all the other veteran schools in the country again that's because we're very applied we're very handson we want the students to particip ipate because we know it takes time to learn skills and to get confidence so we put a lot of time and effort into that teaching practices again we're rated very highly compared to the other schools positive about interactions with staff and students again we're much higher than the rest of the other schools in the country and I think this is because we're probably more accessible we have a closer association with the students and um they're not just a number but they're real people we want to we want to know them we want to get to know that we want to um interact with them Support Services on a wider basis this is um I think jcu as a whole is very big on supporting our students and it shows up again in this survey we're well ahead of all the other veteran students full-time employment we're right up there most of our graduates are getting in jobs as soon as they finish graduate income jcer graduates were above all the other veter rules in terms of Med so again why are graduates getting paid more than other graduates from other universities because they're highly valued by the workforce we can't produce enough of them for the workforce and they're in high demean so just some statistics that you may not be aware of I'm gonna turn um turn over to Grace who's one of our fourth year vety students and get her to say a few words about her experiences with the vety program thank you John hello everyone um my name is Grace as John mentioned I'm a fourth year student in The Bachelor of vet science program at Townsville um I'm originally from a very small City down south called Melbourne um and that's pretty much where I was born and raised I went through schooling there and I spent a lot of my early years on a beef Farm in Northern Victoria that my family owned and I was lucky enough to be one of those children that always knew I wanted to be a event you know when you're very very little and ask you what you want to do and you've got some fantasized idea of what a job involves mine was always fit and that continued throughout my entire childhood all through high school and evidently till now um my studies were pretty smooth for me but I was one of those students that had no idea that there was a concept of living inter state that wasn't something that even crossed my mind when I was 15 16 17 and so when I graduated in 2016 down in Melbourne I applied for the onet school that was down there and evidently I didn't make it in which is totally fine um I instead completed a bachelor's degree in basic the animal science at a university down there and I spent four years there and that was really great for me because I learned a lot about animal health and animal science I learned a lot about how I study um how I cope with pressures and then it definitely confirmed that I wanted to be a vet there was a lot of things I had in my head about what veterinary science involved that were not realis um and the first time I ever took blood from an animal was definitely a eye opening experience for me back then I undertook an honors year as well where I did um my honors in reproduction in dairy cattle so at that point in my life I knew that that was definitely something I wanted to do I had a big interest in reproduction and animal health and so in 2021 end of 2020 I applied to jcu through the application process that a lot of you will be doing this month and I was accepted and then made the move all the way up here so I've been in towns studying at jcu for 4 years now um and I love it and I can vouch for the student side of everything that John has said it's been such a great opportunity here I've completed all my 12 weeks of placements I'm seven weeks through my clinical placements that 10 week um it's been really really good I have learned so much while I've been here the veter school at jcu is so good at teaching you about everything possible vet related I never thought that I would be doing things like eoin reproduction that never crossed my mind um I never thought I would be doing nutrition throughout my degree and jcu is so good at teaching you everything that you need to know plus plus um my first year as John talked about your first three years are very much your preclinical so for me it was very much like introduction to veterinary science including breeds so different cow breeds different dog breeds your Basics how you um handle animals safely there's a massive emphasis in your first year on how to be safe around animals working in a crush haltering a horse um how do you hold a dog safely how do you make sure you're not going to injure yourself when you pick up a dog and put it on the clinical table um that was that was a crazy thought to have as a first year student things that I hadn't even considered we learned Anatomy so we learned um you know your domestic animal Anatomy dogs and cats we learned anatomy of horses cattle pigs and of course we learned exotic and Wildlife Anatomy as well so things that I never thought I'd be working with koalas a kidas platypus Birds reptiles we covered all of that physiology so cells histology how do you look at a cell under a microscope jcu was really good in that first year of teaching us all those foundational Veterinary things and really made me feel like I am a vet student that first sort of for me it was a semester for you it will be trimesters but that first semester whilst dealing with chemistry and biology as general subjects because we had that vet subject as well it was very much a feeling of like okay I'm a vet student in a vet course my next few years were intertwined with a lot of farm placements so I know there's been quite a lot of questions about the placements um so for me at that time the placements consisted of allocated categories so two weeks of beef two weeks of dairy um two weeks of e wine one week of sheep and then sort of miscellaneous and then one week of an intensive Farm as well so like chickens or pigs and that for me was a really great experience to see all these industries going out on these farms and learning about how do they run a chicken farm how do they run a dairy A D like a full-fledged Dairy how does a beef farm work and the good thing about the placements of jcu is you get to choose where you go so I got to do placements in Far North Queensland back down in Victoria out in sort of the dairy regions of Victoria I got to do some all across Australia and that was really cool because you can kind of intertwine a little a little little bit of travel a little bit of a treat into your placements as well as well as you're sort of learning things you're going out into new areas for the sort of upper years as well you do you start to get into a lot more clinical they they ve they're very good as John spoke about really well about that foundational knowledge and building up to it so now that I'm in my fourth year it's very clinical and now my placements are clinical placements so going to Veterinary practices and following them around like a lost puppy for two weeks and it's been great because we as we've started these clinical placements we've also learned clinical clinical skills so we've started Clinical Pathology Diagnostic Imaging um which includes ultrasounds radiographs surgery so you can go and practice and learn how to do a spay or a cast rate in class and then go to your placement and impress hopefully the vets that you're working with so jcu is really great for giving you those foundational skills and then letting you go and apply them in the real world which is really really cool and it's still something that I have to sit down and be like oh wow I have learned so much from when I liveed Liv in Melbourne all the way up to here um we're constantly constantly working with animals that's something that jcu is really good at emphasizing and really good at sort of reinforcing us with we're lucky to have a farm on campus which is really cool we don't have to go anywhere to touch and work with animals for example yesterday yeah yesterday or the day before yesterday I don't know what day of the week it is we anth tized cattle so um sedating them for procedures and that was really cool be able to do on campus have the lectures in the morning wrap your head around the content and then go out and straight away apply that that's absolutely an advantage to jcu and something I really enjoy alongside of course we have our cattle station at um Fletcher View and then we also get milanda which John talked about which is the dairy um up sort of in the aeton table land as well so something that like I can't emphasize enough how great it is to be able to go out and just apply everything that you learn straight away and because jcu teaches very Broad in the sense that it does small animals so cats and dogs as well as Horses and cattle we get PRS for all of them um the lectures here are fantastic I really like I really can attest Don for example has called me to explain a concept when I've been too silly to get it um which that support has been absolutely great you know that you can reach out to them with any questions that you have and not worry about the fact that you know they they may be frustrated like they're so supportive and they're willing to explain things again and again and again again to you when you don't get them and they're willing to hear out your concerns and anything that you have and we're allowed to you know give feedback on the course and help develop and change it so that future vets future vet students you know benefit from what we've sort of been through sorry my cat um and it's a really really nice feeling to be able to know that your voice is important and how you perceive the course is just as important um but yeah I like I ran and Rave about how good it is to do vet science at jcu I really truly love it here our ability there's scholarships for placements you get a lot of control over how you do your placements um we as I've mentioned before we learn everything and anything so if you have an interest you'll have it fostered for example I as I mentioned I did my honors and reproduction so I always knew that reproduction was something I was going to be interested in and I've been able to continue that through jcu but I've also learned that I really like Cardiology so that's something that I'm also enjoying when we do small animal medicine or Cardiology I get to sort of pick up that interest as well which is really cool I've also learned that I don't like horses so there's something that you kind of pick out and you develop how you want to be a vet and because we do everything you get to sort of tailor that and you know that when you graduate you can look at a certain aspect of vet or you can look at all of it um for me I really want to do mixed clinical practice so I do want to do a little bit of horses um so dogs cats cattle production animals all of that that's where I want to start I might go into biocurity I might go straight into Repro I might go into Cardiology I'm trying to keep my options really open and jcu is great at facilitating that openness so we don't specialize as part of the degree at the moment we stay quite broad which I think is a really good Testament doesn't lock you into anything allows you to explore everything to your fullest potential um in terms of what it's like to be a student on an average day I'm not going to sugarcoat it it's a big course you have a lot to learn there's heaps to cover so we do tend to have longer days than some other courses um at University so for me a schedule at at its peak was 8 to four 5 days a week it's not always like that it does taper down and become a little bit easier it waxes and waines but it is quite a full-on course there's a lot to learn um but like with most courses at the moment lectures are recorded so you can work it into your schedule as you see fit obviously there are compulsory PRS and classes but you work in with how you see fit and that allows you to both take care of yourself study how you need to study um and everything else so I think jcu's a testament to that in that they've made vet quite flexible as flexible as it can be which works really good for me because I sorry John you don't need to hear this but I feel like I fall asleep in lectures face to face so I like being able to listen to a recording and um kind of play it and pause and Rewind and take better notes than I would face to face when I have to pull up chess on my computer just to stay awake but face to face works for some people as well so there's other variety of options um but vet's really good for social as well that's something I should also plug um we have our own like social group social kind of events that happen throughout the year so vet ball which is if you're in high school and you have a formal like those where you dress up fancy and you go out to like a school sponsored dance thing we have those once a year there's like cocktail nights for first Year's networking nights seminars all of that so there's a lot of chances to be social within your cohor as well and then J as general has a lot of clubs and sporting groups and vets involved in a lot of sport as well so there's a lot of chance to Foster yourself as an individual outside of the course alongside obviously as a professional as a vet student in your professional life so I think that's really good as well that you get to balance everything it's really nice to kind of clock off with a group of mates and go watch a touch footy game or something like that after lectures um but I think that's pretty much it from me um I obviously didn't go straight into vet so I want to kind of reassure you guys out there that getting into vet straight after high school is not the be end or you can always take a different pathway in you can always look at things like jcu prep or you can always do another course before you get into vet it's never a bad thing your journey is your journey mine was slow and that's not unusual so there are always ways into it um I definitely encourage if you're worried about getting into vet and you want to look to Pathways it's definitely something good to do and that just know that like it's not the b or the end or if you don't get in I thought it was it's really up but I'm going to pass back to John who's probably going to talk a little bit more about the nitty Gres of applications but if you have any questions as we've all mentioned just put them in the Q&A and we'll get around to answering them thanks gra for a great summary and um of your experiences in the course just a few facts about the course here um we're based in Townsville it's a fiveyear course um because we're 3 10 we um trimesters um that students participate in students have to start studying pretty much as early as um around about austral day or or early January mid January or you put orientation week on that we're looking at about mid January coming on the campus so it's a pretty early start after Christmas currently the the fees um spread over the year it's about 11,500 for Commonwealth supported Club so your domestic animal student um domestic Australian student Commonwealth supporter be 11,5 um entry requirements this is important um prerequisites you you have to have successfully completed these courses otherwise you'll be ineligible as a student and those those subjects are English mathematics methods and chemistry so there are the three subjects you have to have done if you apply to gain entry into vet science we also recommend that students have done biology it's not compulsory but because the course does involve a lot of biology um it's probably makes sense for a student to at least have done some so that they know whether they like it or not QT code is there if you're interested when it comes to the application process that code can use for the actual process for applying is a two-step process for Australian domestic students first of all you apply for qac online and using the course code generally speaking our atar the at level that we're looking for is over about 91 but you also need to submit a written application to jcu and in that application you get the opportunity to write out why you want to be a there what experiences it we've had in the past and we're looking for students who've had some experience in a veter practice IND F so that they've got some sort of sense of what the job would involve and then some supportive refences that would confirm or recommend that you would make a good that new student so the twostep process that we need to engage with to log an application for vet new science as well the um tuition costs there are also some other costs on the side that should be aware of there's some clothing costs such as a lab coat overalls scrubs when you're doing surgery you won't need those in the first year but in later years you will need them particularly in the earth and Compu stethoscope a dsection get these are just some of the things of PA of boots you'll need a pair of boots to work with animals we always recommend a p working t as well some of those things other things that are particularly important when you're working with animals is to be immunized for things such as techic um also a disease called Q fever and of course there's some cost associated with getting those vaccines approximately $200 at present all students have to have completed a first aid in CPR course and the cost of those varies a little bit but about $150 um and then they've got to do periodic renewals four days I think cprs every three years or so um placements placements are significant cost for students they're outside of the University teaching period and some of them can be done in Townsville if they're available but others will be out of towns or Interstate sometimes students will want to go overseas so you'll need to budget the travel associated with those placements not only travel with your accommodation of food needs um when you're in these experien so um that also does influence how much time we've got available outside of the University just to work get so we'll restrict that a little bit so finances can become an issue but as Ray said occasionally there are some scholarships that can something that's a recent development this year and will be applied next year is the government does and the university does provide some money for relocation brand um this is available to first year students enrolling commencing studies in 2024 and in 2025 and it's about $5,000 um others are made in line with qac offers and um you apply through the online portals there I think there is some means testing associated with that but we just want to alert you to it there is the possibility that if you're moving to tville you may eligible for $5,000 and we mentioned vaccinations has been important first a in CPR certificates orientation week starts about mid January 20 to 24th of January um with the start date is round about Australia day and it's the 28th of January to 2025 so it's a 30 early State start when you put your application in if you are successful you'll need to move to town for relatively quickly so you need to be mentally and physically prepared for that we evaluate applicance on their academic performance but also we look at the care as well so as I mentioned we want an atar level at least above about 91 or higher which is a little bit lower than some of the other Metropolitan universities in Australia we want uh we want to look at your written application make sure that we can read it because it's in your own handwriting and outline the sort of experience that we've had if you haven't had experience yet we suggest you go outad and get some experience so you can put it on an app and then find some people who can give your support ofs and we welcome people from R and remote and Indigenous backgrounds um there is some selection um advantage to people who are from those environments or backgrounds and so encourage those people to apply and why is that because we know that people in rural areas um if they train at James clook University more likely to go back to a rural area to practice and there's a real shortage of RS in the bush and so we like to see kids from the bush applying to our course G in being successful and going out and to we would love to see more indigenous students in our course so we're trying to encourage them to apply if they want to because we'd like to see more of them in course I'm not near 12 applicants if you've done some other university training be evaluated on their written application and the most recent GPA level generally we're looking for a GPA of at least 5.5 remember try to be openminded you'll work with a whole range of domestic students try not to be focused on just one species because during the course you've got to be competent and knowledgeable about a range of species it's okay to have the Peres that's fine but make sure that you're prepared to learn about other species as well so You' been training to be a general practitioner not necessarily a specialist the course by going through the course gives you access to a very rewarding career I used to say when I was working in private practice I never got bored because every day was different I got a whole variety of things to do um and um you I found that enjoyable you get to make have a meaningful impact not only on animals but on people's lives it's the interaction both with the animal and people that I think gives you a lot of enjoyment I've had a lot of fun and satisfaction from working with people over the years some of those people have become good friends I loved working in small towns becoming part of a community and and be seen as a valuable part of the community you can provide um opportunities for really help helping people and I think a lot of that students a lot of the staff are interested in helping people and that motivates and drives us we want to improve Animal Health and wellbeing as well as human health and that's have a significant role to play there we also contribute to advancements in medical science through research and contributing our ideas what we know from the animal industries that can be find application in human medical Fields And as everyone we've got to keep learning and growing and adapting over time through this course that's something that will happen to you as you come through the years you'll grow you'll adapt you'll learn you'll apply you'll meet new people you'll become a cohort of students most students that you go through with will become your liftime friends it's a very small community the vet Community but these will be your support work colleagues all through your life that's one of the values that you this course you're not just a number you're a person and you're part of a group and that group will become lifetime friends for the rest of your life I'll turn it over now to my question and answer session and um I'll just turn off for a moment for that session thanks so much for your presentation John and to you Grace I think you gave a fantastic Showcase of the veterinary science degree at James Cook University we're really proud of the degree it's Nation leading in a number of areas including employment prospects from completing the the degree and also starting salaries so we're really really proud of it um if you have any questions on the degree after this presentation you'll see that there's a a um QR code here stay connected you can click on that and that will take you through to our um Pathways team will help you uh with um uh jcu questions and also pass on any course specific question questions to content experts you're also welcome to contact us via the um email link and the phone number provided here you'll have seen hopefully during the presentation that there's a number of questions that have come up in the chat and these have been answered by our team in the background but uh we have a few general questions that we thought we might just go over again uh particularly with John and Grace and as particularly with regards I think to entry into the course because there was quite a few questions on that so John if I could put to you um could you provide a little bit of advice on Pathways into veter science other than directly from school what courses would you advise students take if they don't get the uh right ATA or um what Pathways should they take if they say don't potentially get um chemistry or maths in their um School um experience what what's your advice there yeah thank you David I guess the first thing just to reiterate there's some subjects that you have to have passed and that's chemistry uh English and maths methods um if you are unsuccessful at High School in those subjects or haven't done those subjects uh James Cook University provides what we call Pathways entry and this gives you the opportunity to study um those maths methods uh chemistry to a 12 standard in a condensed format and um a lot of it is online and it gives you the opportunity to to successfully achieve those prerequisites to the standard that we require so that that is a pathway for entry into the Course once you've um passed those courses then you fulfill the prerequisite requirement and condat other opportunities uh if you've done those subjects but perhaps your atar is a little was a little bit too low um you can try and start another University course so get some other tertiary experience see if you can get good marks in the first year or two of that course because at the end of a year of doing another tertiary course you can reapply to the veteran degree and then we'll look at your GPA and just if it's above 5.5 you've got the relevant experience then there's a good chance that you will get into the course um some people like Grace have done a full degree and yet yes at any point through your tertiary experience you can apply to James pick University and as long as youve fulfilled those prerequisite subjects then you'd be considered so I had another question on that um with regards to um ENT as a mature age student with relevant qualifications and experience um what's your advice for students who are mature agent and already have qualifications yeah I guess it's it's a really about the selection criteria um if they've got relevant um relevant experience and that'll tick that box and then we're going to look at the GPA level and um and make sure that it's it's at an adequate level you know if it wasn't if it was at a four and they had a five and we needed a 5.5 they may miss out on selection why is that well it's a very demanding course and um we find that um that that the level of 5.5 does um pretty much give a good chance of that but the student will cope with the course and be able to succeed if they haven't got that level they may have to undertake additional tertiary training to try and raise that GT to get in fantastic so now we had another question on uh what type of workplace experience or volunteer work should you include as part of your application into the program what do you like to see there yeah that's a good question we like to see some experience with a veter clinic or a veter practice because a lot of our graduates will work in veter practices so the students are aware um what their job might be um if they've got Farm experience or industry experience then that is also helpful so because we know that they've had you know experience handling horses or cattle or sheep or they've worked in a dog shelter or a pound all of those things are useful um bes besite those valuable experiences it also tells us whether the student has been employed in a job so if they've worked at McDonald's successfully for a number of years that helps because we say well someone thinks that they're worthwhile employing and they've got on well with that team so that's good we we want team players so any sort of employment experience won't be disregarded but we particularly want some of that experience to include experience with animals and Veteran practice fantastic another question I think this goes to more outside the course can you provide a bit more information about accommodation options and is there capacity to stay on campus while I while people study um yes um thanks David there's a range of options on campus for accommodation and we have a number of colleges here that you can apply um you'll find information on the website um if you search under College accommodation or accommodation for students we'll find a range of options there some of them do have the prices listed and each College usually has uh different options um depending on the level of um services that you may want and um one of the re most recent colleges is um the students cook for themselves and that's that's um a pleasant change which I think they enjoy and that's a very modern sort of um College environment so there's a range of accommodation um options on site to cater for that obviously out in the community there are rentals that students can access once they've been in the course for a while they it's not uncommon for students to get together and to join a a a rental house together so that's another option we had another question regarding vaccinations and is that still possible to participate in the course if you're allergic to any required vaccinations yeah um it would be depending on your risk which would you know have a discussion with the doctor and things like that but obviously um you know exposure to tetus is a real risk um exposure to Q fever is a real risk and um it's it would depend on individual circumstances to what um whether that would be possible or not um and we would take probably medical advice on that but the university would also do a risk assessment and determine whether that student now is this is this a suitable uh profession for that student because they may be at greater risk of succumbing to C affections it's not too demanding but te and Q fever the main ones that interesting fantastic so we had another question about employment Arrangements after you've graduated so how do um students get their employment after they graduate well a lot of them get jobs before they graduate they don't obviously start in those jobs but as they do placements um the the practices are keeping an eye on them and when students come through that suit their practice they often offer them a job before before they finish the year so it comes through word of M students being offered jobs um it also comes through advertisements there are a range of places that have advertisements for vets students will see those and they can apply to those we have vets writing to us asking can we advertise our position to your students um and we we cat for that um we also have seminars where some evet practices come here talk to our students and encourage them to apply the positions that they have so it's um it's quite easy to find advertisements and um uh usually um most students don't have too much trouble getting jobs we had another question back to uh enrollment and um applications are you disadvantaged if you're a city student and don't have U much rural experience a lot of our students do come from major metropolitan areas it's not exclusive to rur and remote areas there is a little bit of um positive bias I guess for Rural and remote students but if you're GP if you're GPA if you're a tertiary student or you're atap you got a high AAP um and you've got you've had some experience so you've worked in a vet clinic or you've had some Farm experience then um you've got a good chance of getting in we're not going to Mark you [Music] down fantastic thanks John I think we're getting close to time now so we may have to wrap up on our questions um so I'd like to thank our Pres presenters particularly John and Grace for such an informative and um engaging presentation tonight between the two of you I thought they were really nice integrated uh answers because John tells you a lot about his experience in the course Grace can show you what the experience of a student is of the course and I think that gives you a really nice overview and um I'd Al also like to um share with you that if you're in attendance tonight there'll be a link open on your browser after the webinar concludes and I invite you to complete the survey post webinar so we have some key dates for you here so um we have uh from the 1st to the 30th of August we've got the rockampton pop popup program and 15th of August where got the um maai careers Expo 20th of August we've got the Darwin careers Expo and 29th of August the K's careers Expo so we'll um potentially we'll provide more information at so um before we sign off um I'd like to just reiterate those and to say um thank you for coming for tonight and thank you for your interest in um the veterinary sciences course I hope you enjoyed the presentation be sure to check out and register for some of for these upcoming um events and also for the upcoming um webinars and thank you very much and good night from us