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Exploring Culinary Creativity and Trends

we were at under 25 in Bangalore oh all right yeah and uh he's he sees us there sees me and St then he comes up to us and he says it's nice to meet you guys you're very I'm so happy I'm meeting so talented and he say so then I looked at like Nik you're aren't aren't you the multi-millionaire Nik millionaire and then he he's like yeah yeah yeah he doesn't know what to say bro and then I tell him you look I I didn't recognize you looked even more handsome like in real to save it he felt so bad I remember yugu was goes like I think he just in passing he said take my number down and if you need anything you formality like like I think Yugo shook his hand and yug goes this is the first Billionaire's hand I ever shook in my life all us in front of him bro okay I think we're good to go it's fine [ __ ] the MKE you can't kill the mkey you have to okay let's go Chef hello bro thank you for that meal first of all we've had like the nicest meal I've had in bom in a while in in period I think period yeah I mean this is the second time I'm having food H oh yeah yeah we were there last we come for the popup but this was like on a different level I think this is at home and it's a Sunday The Vibes are also like cookout Sunday Biryani it's it was so beautiful bro like poke Biryani wow just the first time I've had Biryani yeah that's why that was the whole Moto to make you all something that's yeah not there thank you so much yeah but thank you so much for feeding us man that was beautiful our moms haven't done that in a while but that's what I do that's that's uh this is this is what I do for a living yeah is this your typical Sunday go-to meal like no uh in fact I was kind of revising on how you make Biryani cuz I've not made a Biryani in a while oh wow uh and I do a poke one I've never made it cuz it was always it's little controversial to make poke Biryani so is that frowned upon like in uh so I researched on it but uh then I found out that somewhere in Kerala they make Po Biryani in Kerala okay but I'm not heard about anywhere around here I don't think so you get it anywhere here so uh I'd like to have fun with food this was one way of putting a new dish out there in right in the do you do you like sometimes go into this mad scientist like route and you're like CH I'll make some wacky [ __ ] that people don't expect only see it's it has to be an element of surprise right how you are trying to make uh dining experiences more fun more creative and uh given this space where you can have so many crosscultural references put together uh like when they came for the first popup uh one of the dish was called KLA chart that was we had a few rounds of a lot of different things banana that I've gone inside banana flour banana and chart yeah it's weird I know but uh if you get the right balance of textur and something crunchy something sweet Something Rich all together yeah yeah how did you like you have to change the name no I had to cuz like can't K chart banana chart is okay banana chart is okay I feel like anything which ends with chart has some sort of negative conation to it yeah I mean it's a word that means two things and the two things are like very apart yeah no but that was that was one of the things that I had and I was like okay these flavors I'm having for the first time together I like you had put banana chips also in it yeah the banana chips crunchy banana flour that was cooked in I mean Fri what is banana flour it's it's like these petals that you get looks very beautiful and there are these it's a lot of work also actually to get one one petal out and there's a plastic like uh structure inside that you have to pull out it's like the bone of it and then you take that tempura friy and yeah do all the different spice mixes K chat K CH yeah it was too good ma Chutney is also made with overy bananas and all so yeah lot of elements of K put together I mean there's food like this and also on the other side of the spectrum there's the most simple food that will never like get old can never go out of fashion like I I keep seeing interviews of celebrities and they ask him what's your favorite like dish and they all go with like chel Dal chel and then first I didn't understand what they mean but then after we've moved here and like half the time we're eating outside a good like Dal chavel also just hits the spot of course yeah I mean you got to you know you need to find your relationship with food uh how you would like to eat on an everyday basis how do you like to eat when you host people and do you have some cultural references like Diwali hooli what is it that you eat at home and you know taking that forward in some capacity but with your own flare to it and that's how cooking is involved over theing now it's different it's more modern it's you know as for today's day and age so it's only there to go further and more ahead yeah there's a downside to it also yeah which is uh I'm sure you guys have seen some weird ass combinations of food that's been served on the streets Instagram have you all seen that do that's disgusting what is your what are your reals bro they have to get creative imagine if you have to put two three videos out every day and they're all getting millions of views so after a point you're going to run out of normal things to put out have you seen that one no I haven't seen seen this guy just vipping 12 eggs in a pan he's not able to flip it and he's broken it everywhere some crazy ass fuse like Johnny's omelette what are these real bro so it's omelet but he'll take like a like cream or something or mayo and then he'll like so it's Johnny the food Pawn content has also gone up right with men and women who are trying to make a recipe with you know uh yeah with some added ingredients just making very sexual the whole video what is is it is what they a good looking woman with like a yeah like you're needing the dough the camer is only showing this much they're like wearing that uh APR without any only the apron yeah and then TR to cut in a certain way and like moving at high speed see those ones I don't mind it's the solo guy ones it's some for everyone yeah yeah you don't like those what is your opinion on these videos it's cool right it's getting yeah and some recipes like at the end of it killer recipes well some of them get the vibe right like I there was this one guy who blew up who would like smoke a joint at the start that guy was really good bro I still follow him I I don't know his name I've never followed him but Daniel Williamson I'm not burns the so many of them now like that yeah there's yeah D is the paper guy he burns the paper first there's one other guy who flips the spoon outside every time he's cooking something he just throws one spoon out I'm like out H like big of course imagine walking every day they're walking that time they're getting food content has evolved like Through The Years this is like the next step in the evolution where people are getting super creative before it was just like the ful length recipe ingredient then tasty took over and they did like one minute quick recipes re and people realize you don't need to show the whole process because I think it all of this is like evolved from the TV shows the TV cooking shows now there's so much more yeah uh earlier it was just sanjie kapor was coming in on TV doing certain style of be everywhere on my toaster on my everywhere every ad pressure cooker swar but now it's blown up and now there are so many more creators that Master Chef show is blown up it's got a lot more people interested in wanting to do this but I honestly uh strongly feel that we don't have enough hands uh to cook for the larger population that we have and there not a lot of people who are still pursuing it as a career to cook for people and masses on the or you know be in a restaurant or a hotel or any eating catering organization yeah now there's a big shift of people moving towards content and stuff also so where all of this is yeah or do you feel like people the purpose of why people cook is starting to change like be more I mean you have so many more resources and options now that if you don't wish to cook for yourself you're getting food by the touch of a button I feel getting homecooked meal is a privilege on its own now cuz even though you have meal at home you still happen to order from outside and yeah people have such very tastes and so many options to choose from uh kind of gets uh uh different right like how how you're meeting that so and yeah in the longer run eating outside food is not good for you yeah I only eat food out from outside like I only order order in or I like I go to a cafe or I go to whatever and but then whenever I go visit my parents or whatever and they feed me I it's like a different thing on that hits home right yeah that hits yeah straight to the heart it feels it just makes it so much better there is something about junk all week H there is something about ordering in that I think the food that you order in and eat it's like it doesn't do the same thing like even the way you feel about it I mean it will taste good like you're ordering food that always tastes good but like the ingredients or whatever it is it just doesn't suit your body right I mean eating eating out your eating more for the experience just compared eat at uh dosas at home right at home you could belt like three four easy and when you eat out in a restaurant you just eat one cuz the amount of fats or but richness that's been added to give you that nice wholesome meal experience so that's Restaurant St right it's bigger uh utensils and operations and that kind of food so it is much more richer um of course if it's a busy restaurant then there is the food is more fresher of course cuz they're turning out new things every single day but uh there's some sort of lightness when you're eating at home cuz it's straight made from here there's not too many hands that have gone to making that just one you know Pair of Hands just making that for you I feel I feel like there all there also is a factor of someone loves you and then that those hands are going into yeah that energy for sure goes in the food like I was skeptical about it at first when they say oh Mom's love and I was like your mom's just probably a good cook but like when someone is cooking for you it's like there is some energy that goes into it for sure s it's an act of love yeah yeah do this I mean uh you you also um I feel food on a whole is is something that not a lot of people have a decent understanding of this relation of how it should be uh we all are you know still trying to figure it out over the years you come to know that okay eating out a lot is not really good for my system and you know something's working for you or something's not and now with everyone being so woke about da not working for them or uh having more food habits and allergies that they are uh you know just aware of and you know uh trying to uh mend their relation with food and eating better and smarter um yeah it's I don't know something no it has changed it has changed a lot people think about what they eat but I don't know how do do you guys think about what your next meal is going to be or I thought don't at all for me I a very pragmatic relationship with food now where okay and I'm not even if I've open my whatever any of these apps I'm not like scouring over the best option I can get like I want something that comes early so you I also want someone that comes early yes yes we've taken our food seriously now like in the past these guys are fully like because now we have access to a cook like that this is for the even when you are at home your Mom is cooking for you like most families the mom is like cooking for the family but you don't have that freedom with what is cooked at home is what you eat yeah you don't go to your mom and say oh I need this much protein I need this much protein so please cook make this for me today please yeah because it's not just for you it's to feed a family but now because we have a cook we tell him k I want like this and he'll cook it like whatever you ask does he come and ask you like what what every every he's a little slow and is that an annoying question to answer every day it does get cuz the thing is after a while how much can you experiment so then we leave it to Anish we'll be like bro you handle it no now I'm like I almost have the same dinner every night okay it's just like grilled chicken and rice okay and maybe the D changes sometimes it's like Mur D sometimes it's normal d oh that's good and the marinade of the chicken changes sometimes it's like a green marinade sometimes spicy red oh sweet so now it's not that annoying cuz he knows what to do every day working at home has become easier also now yeah it's not that tough you get marinated meats and all that these days so so many companies and brands are doing that and if you have the privilege of an air fryer that's even like it's changed my life honestly I'm the biggest air fryer Advocate it makes me sound very spoiled but it's not it's not expensive also bro what do you what do you think of air fryers as a [ __ ] it's [ __ ] in what sense like Ian you rather have an oven right yeah uh it's the same thing it's just that this is this you're limited to a basket I rather have like a it's actually the same thing it's the same thing yeah but but in the air fryer there's more air circulation that happens that's why it's in a basket with the N at the bottom and know those cuts made in certain way that the air has you know the rotation but there also is the sense of convenience with the air fryer right it's it's simpler to to it's even simpler to do that in a oven this you put in a basket and this you put in a tray and I think ovens the only ens are associated with like a lot of work ovens are intimidated you got to like preh there's a little bit air air frying is easy I put strawberri in my air in the air fry yeah and they tasted delicious what is wrong with you that's you know in a very high restaurant that would have been very much appreciated air fried strawberry they good bro you should try it I think next recipe I think of it like if I can just uh switch it on put my food in and take it out in 10 15 minutes and I'm still eating a home-cooked meal I'm not ordering in like it's doing microwave is good there's all this uh news around it that it's bad and this and that [ __ ] that microwave is good you can hear I I was one of those who would think microwave is bad and I didn't have one for a very long time and all of my chefs uh yeah got me to understand that it's why why do people claim it's unhealthy to use a microwave some [ __ ] you read over the internet right microwave is not bad radiation radiation yes some [ __ ] but I feel it's it's it's a great device if you can boil a potato in it you can you know warm food in it you can make lot of things if you know how to hack a microwave yeah imagine telling someone like 200 years ago that there's going to be this one box and you put your food in you press a button and it's cooked or heated no fire nothing they wouldn't even believe you yeah they probably ask you believe that you're getting your meat processed out of a packet you don't have to go hunting for it yeah there there have you watched Spy Kids yeah there is that one scene where they put like it's like a packet a strip they put it in a machine they press a button and it becomes like a full meal with burger and Coke they're not too far away I think from something like that from that sort of yeah that'll be too processed that's that's uh quite positive to think about yeah to press a button and get food like that AI food do you do you say sir I think we were going to say the same no no you say definitely not saying no I was going to ask him something else you think a is going to take over the cooking industry sure I think that's one of the industries that's relatively safe from Ai No I mean you got to eat every single day right you yeah or wait for [ __ ] kage to make this reality yeah but I would like to invest in this uh if it's actually a you can at least get like some crazy recipes what do you do with the recipe cooking is All About Touch feel uh the like we said that energy that you have to put into yeah it's you need that you don't cook now at all so no not at all you you you should know how to cook for survival I know how to cook for survival yeah that's good basic I can cook eggs fry eggs then some Chinese I can cook Chinese you can like what like as well one of the most basic like you know your chili chicken exactly you know how to make chili chicken yeah bro I'll make with the corn flour and all he's made we Ved it I just can't believe it marinated chicken that's the most that I can do like that's good that's my pin I I make a nice Dal TKA and rice why don't you cook for yourself then bastard I I I have this very like I don't know how to cook okay like like I are you okay to do dishes though no no I don't enjoy the kitchen I'm sorry you don't cook you don't clean no I I like I he's an independent woman but why it's see I I have like these many hours in my day and unfortunately most of those are dedicated towards doing certain things which I don't want to not do so to like include a like time slot within that day where I have to uh know what I feel like having and then Source my ingredients uh learn you're suppos to do once a week check this out then I got to cook then I get to eat which takes the least amount of time after which I have to do the dishes and then go to sleep I'm sorry okay get paper I I I don't know maybe maybe but that makes a lot of sense bro that he doesn't go to the kitchen he doesn't even drink water like you drink very less water through the day no you don't that makes a lot of sense hush he has dehydrated this is why he's putting his strawberries in a [ __ ] air pry he's like [ __ ] that straber what do you think about like but like we're talk since we're on the topic of unhealthy eating what do you think of fast food and stuff do you eat that kind of of course it's it's delicious yeah who who what's your favorite like McDonald's uh no no McDonald's I'm not even a packet noodles guy uh not even like the ramond no no no my team hates me for that for one reason I I like my noodles fresh but I like uh all this Indian faran things have you eaten have you eaten what's a Dosa kakra no dude you should you should totally get it like crispy Dosa it's like this buttery thin uh crispy DOA have you eaten Cori roti imagine Ki Roti which is cooked slightly more and has a layer of butter on it it's like nicely Brown a little bit it's as thinner than a kakra and bro you just can't stop like [ __ ] all these chips and it's like a Gujarati cant banana chips I I love banana chips I dis likee banana chips the get the [ __ ] out it tastes like nothing bana chip tastes like nothing banana chips with thaton oil I don't like I like bip do you like the spicier long ones or do you like the like yellow circular what are we talking about banana chips I like the uh sweet banana chips that they make with little ripe bananas so it's like salty and but sweet right they're the best uh yeah what do your take on veg Manchurian I like air bro there's no taste to it what does taste like air I mean cabage balls know there's nothing to it it's just cabbage and with in a gravy of so I like the texture of that yeah I I don't mind veg manur I think it's it's very much Indian also I guess so theyy theyy Chinese I like some veg food slaps for sure like like paner Tika is always sometimes I'd like take it over check it also I think a lot of veg food slaps yeah especially in India do you end up eating more of non-vegetarian food or vegetarian depends uh when I'm like really into my uh when I when I'm following like a particular diet and a sense of how much I'm supposed to eat calories and this and that I ate a lot of animal protein uh which is fish chicken beef whatever yeah uh and um apart from that uh vegetarian grown up in a vegetarian household so uh veg is always a part of the me in some form or the other if you're a vegetarian India is the place to be I think you don't get this variety veganism are all things that they're trying to create for uh vegan food I think we already had this in in our uh subcultures since so many years it just you cut out ghee from it yeah think think about it sou Indian food uh if everything's made with coconut milk and uh so many different dlls and vegetables and so many different grains and cereals that you uh that you consume um and it's all vegan it's delicious food it's a stainable it's something that you can follow for the rest of your life and not even repeat a single dish again okay but then why is there this uh impression that veganism is an expensive thing for people to take I was I didn't know that most South Indian food was about abided by coconut oil coconut coconut milk heavily used uh so many veg things um it's also like the was I don't know how these recipes came into being but it is always seen as seasonality of what vegetables are available in what season now with the whole uh you know uh globalization of farming also you're getting everything all around the year but uh there are still uh seasonal vegetables that grow in a particular time of the year and um most of the Indian preparations you would see they are uh same basic jira Rai ghee some k or something and just like a stir fry of sorts in an Asian way an Indian way you have a little bit of hethy you know basic stuff uh so much more of veeg food to explore and meat is just like the protein Just One supplement that's separate so if you cut that out and you cut Dairy out from the mix you have a lot of vegan options uh from Regional references from uh India that you can consume on an everyday basis yeah vegan is a lot of work though like if you are cooking for yourself first of all like to learn those recipes to begin with like if you're someone who's suddenly gone vegan it's going to take you a while I tried it for a month just to experiment and see how do you better lighter lighter yes but I started like losing weight so I figured if there is a way to do it is like you need to go and do blood work and see what your body lacks and then take take supplements because suddenly a lot of nutrients are disappearing from your diet so I've had friends who've done it for a while and they got sick and they had to like start eating meat again okay so there there are a big segment of people who have felt better also it feels better like this feeling of how you have lunch and then you need a nap that like your all your energy not lethargic yeah you're lighter but uh I mean like I said to each its own yeah you know you got to find what your relation with food you got to mend it and find what works for you the best right which I guess over the years will will happen once you uh start realizing that if you're changing certain food patterns and how it's affecting you and how you're better and at different stages of Life your want for this is you know changing uh uh like I've now started becoming more conscious about my meat eating choices wanting to eat more veg food uh just out of choice and there are decent uh protein supplements to get your uh and you know whatever vitamins that you're lacking can get in a form of a pill or any supplement yeah uh so it just of how much you want to invest in your own body and you know your own uh well-being yeah there are various ways to get to know and understand what your body wants also you have to try things out for yourself because like your body responds and also it has a lot to do with your genetics and how your like family and ancestors have been eating for so for me a family who's like always been nonvegetarian since I think my first like ancestor to suddenly go vegan it doesn't sit right with your body because it's like generations and generations of conditioning yeah heritage K it's not it's not how it was my great Grandad was looking at me from there like disappoint what happened to [Laughter] him milk is a little difficult to let go I think milk by itself is is easy to go now you're drinking milk of a cart yeah it's no longer that earlier you would have that he made at home eating out of a packet so it's changed over the years people identifying Dairy not working for them now is after milk milk has been now [Music] milked the whole milk industry milk and just food in general now this fssa I don't really look at like they aren't really reviewing and going through the uh ingredients on the back of a product to like I mean they they are and uh yeah there are some people after them also uh who who are trying to uh you know get people more aware that how these guys are trying to uh scam them in a way yeah okay shout out food farmer he's dedicated he dedicated his life to just and it's it's cool it's cool it's cool yeah it's really cool cuz for for me I I've been in a profession where I'm cooking food based on someone's diet and stuff and uh putting it out there for them so um I as a habit started reading nutrition labels cuz I have to count calories for a particular diet plan so uh you know that's how I make my measurements and Portion sizes and then cook with that and serve that um and when I started reading labels I realized that okay there is uh there's so much of misinformation out here that is not really uh known to people so so uh yeah really shout out to food Farmer for dedicating his time it's very difficult in India to uh there is multiple factors and the main one is cost so if you're making food any packaged food your your cost is the biggest Factor so when you eat like Indian chocolates the same chocolates like KitKat Snickers the ingredients are way different from the ones that you get abroad and that's my guess is to fit it within people's like budget make it affordable for not really but uh I mean even they want to make more than how much money how would it be a standardized product Global brand I think it's because it's made with local ingredients The Taste changes there will not water is one big factor look at buying chocolate from I don't know where which where is KitKat from that maybe if it's from Japan they'll buy chocolate from from Japan but if they want to sell Kit Kat in India of course they have to buy chocolate from here right the recipes can be standardized brought here and they put a lot of money in research and getting them streamlined but why do you think like they would go for let's say palm oil in India whereas they're going for like vegetable oil cheaper palm oil is cheaper uh it's not good for you it's not good in a large amount but see going outrightly and bashing them up is also not right right okay now uh like I said you have to be invested in knowing what's good for you and then understanding whether so many factors to it now now if your uh your in income is not enough to for you to buy cold press flax seed coconut oil they not thinking about so it's a privileged thing for you to be able to if you're aware of it be grateful and yeah just uh see how what works for you you have to be invested like I said to know about your own body and yeah do you really scour like the back of like products whenever I do uh and that just made my choice of eating much more uh smarter mhm uh of what products would be cuz there so much of uh there's so many products that you actually use on an everyday basis um you there are so many brands that make the same product as well so there are so many factors that you consider that what's the price point whether I'm getting very subjective also to what you're buying and all so uh yeah and it's it's across the board these are the things that we're talking about perishables uh non- perishables which is on the Shelf of a store but uh if you can also like buy vegetables also that are uh really expensive nowadays and um yeah I mean the point I'm trying to make is uh there's so much of availability and there's so much of information and so many products that one might get confused and get lost in this process so I guess uh you have people who do this for you and that's why some people come to us and want us to cook for them on an everyday basis right how how picky are like let's say the celebrities that not picky p is not the right War like how particular are celebrities with their diets like very much uh especially actors and the athletes that we cook for uh they they do this for a living they have to be uh have certain fitness goals that they have to achieve every now and then if it's an actor they are playing different movie roles and they have to become bigger smaller or stay fitter carry out action sequences and dance all day and all of that cricketers as well they have to be um on a specific D that keeps them fueled through a entire 50 over match or a 20 over match so diets change as for that you know your car loading will happen more on a 50 over Match Day match so is that what they go go for because cricket players are not particularly known for being super fit like changing now it's changing now I mean see the definition of fit is very different yeah that's what I'm common uh uh misconception fit is like abs muscles fit yeah uh it's it's very important to understand what your fitness goals are if your Fitness like my fitness goal is to be able to stand in the kitchen for 12 hours and cook and don't have any back aches and this and that and all so be fit enough to do that and carry out your everyday uh activities very normally without any pains and stuff uh so with every different person fitness goals you identify uh what what your needs are and based on that you chalk out a diet plan that works for you the best yeah what I'm saying is that they they constantly have to keep switching between uh like I said like a 50 over match and a 20 over match your calie intake before a 50 over match and a gal intake before 20 over match is going to be different especially when you're bowling batting is you can always go and grab a meat in the break time and all yeah SE me yeah even we've seen some actors eat it and uh uh that Duba has been sent by one of our chefs to them course yeah it's it's such a great feeling to cook for Crick do you also like provide meal plans and all for these uh or do they come with it to you some of them uh have some nutritionist or Fitness coach who they are Consulting and uh they come up with that but uh what they give on a piece of paper we decode that to real food okay and at the same time one of the USPS of our services is that uh there are options and uh things that you know one can create and uh provide you with yeah whatever you want at Ed point of time that's crazy that means you've played a role in India winning the World Cup this year yeah and last year uh they won because of you that's not not me the food two of my two of my chefs were cooking for uh two of the cricketers and uh last year as well so uh Australia one of our chefs was also cooking for a Australian cricketer damn it come on man that's they're always World Cup winners but at the same time we had four chefs cooking from our team cooking for four team members in the Indian cricket team okay can you like name these cricketers yeah we were cooking for K Rahul uh hardik Panda sua Kumar yadav R Ashwin and the Australian cricketer was Marcus stus though he didn't play any matches he played just one or two uh but our Chef lifted the World Cup yeah uh twice now it's uh I think you guys should like sign a like a long-term deal with the indan it's working whatever you guys we work on an individual capacity with each of yeah yeah so uh yeah we are we not anything related to with the BCCI what what's it like hanging out with these guys um I've so I've not hung out as much as my team has uh I've ever since I have taken this step of uh you know starting my brand uh the private chefs Club we've had more and more chefs who have been trained and now been doing this so uh I get to I met them uh initially for a meeting and inid middle sometime they like cops here there's a fire someone something is on fire good thing a lot no the best part is always during the rains there's something that catches fire in Bombay I think it's short circuits yeah maybe you were saying uh yeah uh I was saying you were saying about who all you've hung out with he was asking how with the cricket I've hung out with a few of them we've cooked for uh K Rahul on his adversary and uh that's the time I've met him uh met him before when I was in I was in Gujarat for some private dinner that we are cooking for and my team also happened to be in Gujarat during the World Cup finals M so I met him there uh yeah but yeah we're pretty much in uh I'm not in touch with them on an everyday basis yeah that's something that the chefs who are assigned to them are on an everyday basis doing that uh but yeah on and off I keep meeting them cooking for if they have a gig at home and they want me to come over and do something like a popup or some sort of event at home uh like a private dinner we do so one of our verticals is private Dining Services where we provide uh meal experience at home it could be a sit down five Coast meal elaborate uh thing or it could be you know floating appetizers and floating Mains and uh desserts and stuff yeah so curated meals understanding what your crowd is like how many vegetarians vegans uh Jens yeah we don't talk about Jens by the way [ __ ] Jens J is bigger than veganism dude they also have a lot of money yeah and if you open a 100% or vegetarian Place bro you're locked in you're locked in for business for decades now that is true my my ex-girlfriend she had a friend who was Jen and vegan so she didn't eat anything she she basically goes to a restaurant and ERS a plate of salt bro what do you eat yeah no no root vegetables no uh so there's one more rule of theirs that says uh what like if you serve water to a gen person uh if you drink it half and keep it down you can't like take it back again and drink that again so I'm like isn't that like too much yeah imagine if they drank alcohol bro they always have to chug their drinks you can't keep it back up I think alcohol is one of the things they don't that's why they said it's not allowed in the G that's why they like no I don't think they draw like like is the is the glass impure there's so many just every time I meet a gen diet person also I ask like what kinds are you cuz there are some who are like if you can't see it they the risky risky on then then after few after some chugging gravy but um yeah it it's very um subjective person to everyone has very different one I always find it very funny when someone who's from a vegetarian family secretly eats Meats they all do we all we have the same friend it's not a nice thing to say but I get a kick out of it like like I'm foring it's like they're just ready to be asked because like they don't hesitate for them it's like that thrill it's that thrill of you know committing a crime yeah that's the reason why they enjoy it more I chicken [Laughter] and like they try to convince themselves like yugu he's from a vegetarian family no one in his in his family eats veg nonv and he eats chicken sorry if his family but he won't eat it if it looks like chicken yeah socken nuggets chicken nuggets e grilled chicken FR he can't cuz like he can see that it's chicken I don't think he eats no like if it's within chicken m oh hidden it has to be layered then he'll eat what else wow butter chicken he'll only take the gravy yeah most of the gravy he takes and he like just touch the Roy to the chicken once and then he'll eat like there's nothing that comes it no protein bro if you're committing a sin like go all the way yeah that's just do it do you have things that you don't you choose not to eat or like you won't eat ever uh yeah um uh few things that I don't eat and that I dislike eating uh I don't know shik I don't eat I was thinking something along the lines of like insects dog sh is what is I cannot eat I don't know am is that is niceu delicious that's too good sh is too sweet yeah there's something wrong with it I'm not going to say anything about I feel like it's it get hit yeah it'll get a lot lot of aggressive okay nice when you with Puri and all but no I mean I'm not a big fan of it I don't know I really thought you were would like say some sort of like vegetable or something I don't know I I like all vegetables I yeah almost all veg I like all Meats uh insects and all I've tried not a big fan Cluny ones I like which insects have you had all the Grasshoppers ants uh do they even taste like anything cuz they're like so thin I mean they're mostly crunchy they're all deep fried to death deep Fri to death uh they have some great seasoning on it like salt and whatever I think it's the seasoning that yeah that makes it and while chugging a beer and all it's nice chak types have you had like scorion or something like that no I haven't yeah how can you eat scorpins aren't they like venomous I think bro how could you even eat crab like who [ __ ] thought [Laughter] like we didn't you leave those small [ __ ] delicious I saw this thing on the Discovery Channel where they made a Chutney out of ants oh it was like ant Chutney and it looked like pretty good what it look like was like it was an Chutney man I can't describe how much were they like mushed into like they took like some spice like a spice mix that they had and they put the ants like a they had like a bag of hands or they were in leaves so they would like put them in the bowl like that and mix it with the spice beat it up sorry if anyone's like a vegetarian who had to hear all of this [ __ ] I mean hands are barely like still you never know bro people have you ever thought about like doing a insect uh dish at any of your enough veg and meat around to find ants and [ __ ] yeah it's not my it's not something that you recreate here like if you're at the place where it's you like embrace the no you ask like I've asked my Che friends and all no bro this is just like you know tourist gimmick that they like oh it's like a food circus yeah you know it's it's fun what is your favorite Indian food first I love Chinese food that's what I you know started working in and my Foundation has been Cantonese food um I like all Asian food honestly I feel it's more flavorful than most of European other stuff and all I feel like their food is more straightforward right meat bread meat bread like broccoli Mash salad yeah uh which is also nice everything spiced with salt and pepper little garlic here and there but it's not as powerful asan food not as much flavor even Mexican food is very flavorful American food is all fast food so yeah everyone loves it I like it yeah uh but yeah Indian food indan also there's so much to explore it's crazy uh but yeah my most of uh my inclination has been towards Asian food and that's what primarily I'm also uh asked to cook every time as as a specialty as they call it yeah can you tell us a little bit about how you got into this like doing private Chef's Club oh I uh I just happened to get a call from ranir Kapoor oh I said that of my boy me no I used to uh so before that uh so I started my career at a a restaurant worked there for 3 years I started my own meal prep Service uh which was again first off its kind uh way before zomato was even delivering food and all uh and uh for the kind of service it was it caught a lot of attention from uh the mo people from the movie industry who were looking for something like this and you know get packed meals delivered to them based on their diet and stuff um and uh rir was one of our clients back then as well um that that business went well um then uh we sh shut that business down I had very different uh we were part like bad Partnerships that went down and uh um got into another business that even that didn't work and I was at a point where I just left that and uh I was just trying to figure what I'm going to do next I've only worked in India start and even did my education here so was probably figuring out that okay I'll go outside I'll do something were you cooking for un through this period no no no uh like during this entire uh business period of mine where we did the meal prep service and stuff that's the time I was cooking for everyone uh uh like a lot of Bollywood actors rir Kapoor Alat Shah Kapoor adiy kapor all the K even even uh even raki Saad was one of shout out raki if she watching this if if she is dude we I've had like some crazy uh uh voice notes that she would send to give her references and can you is she like that like in behind the czy I appreciate it so much see now that I know like she's the same I appreciate it so much yeah that that's real that's real talk yeah the whole time the whatever we see uh what did she what would she have said on uh things like like her food preference and suddenly uh some fasting and all she would do and she would tell sabana K and all of that and we also thinking like is protein calories and all then uh at the time when she was trying to negotiate she she I didn't know she didn't have a manager she was dealing it by doing this by herself but oh she she does all her deals I mean that time I'm talking like 10 11 12 years ago yeah uh and it was funny cuz she was Tred to bargain and she's gone something like bab something and yeah it was a very uh it was D funny voice note uh yeah sending voice notes back then is so hard bro like you know uh to talk about getting onto a service that'll send you meals every uh six days a week and every morning and all um but yeah so lot lot of people back then um and uh I just decided to move out of this business very toxic uh partnership I was in uh you want can you talk about you and me both brother I I don't know much about this but uh yeah we'll talk about it off camera oh cool yeah uh so uh yeah something that was not really nice um it kind of I'm quite happy that it happened at a very early age in my life when I was like 25 26 you know doing this um but yeah appro that I was at a point where I was trying to figure out what I'm going to do next probably work in a restaurant again cuz I was done doing this daba meals and all and uh that was a time when RI reached out saying that dude I'm also done with this daba food I need a chef who come home and cook food and so I went met him and um it was my first meeting with him and always tell this about him um uh we supposed to meet at some 7:30 I've reached at about 7:20 and uh he was in the gym in the building in the basement I've just gone there uh gone down to the basement he sees me get in he was sitting on the bench he's got up shaking my hand and he sat down he offered me to sit on the bench I'm like this guy's R kapor he didn't have to like do that I would have just stood and had this conversation and and he said said please give me 5 minutes I'm going to finish this set we spoke a little bit and we were supposed to go up and have this conversation so that first interaction only was so like dude what a I mean he doesn't know he's R Kapur uh but yeah uh and then uh went upstairs we spoke uh I went and saw the kitchen and yeah it's just started cooking for him from that weekend onwards M and uh then he asked me that do you have someone from your team or your Junior who will travel with me and I was like where you have to travel he's like I have to go to Bulgaria for a shoot and it's going to be for like good 40 80 days and two schedules and all it's like yeah sure I'm I'm the te team uh solo I'm the team I can I can come uh and then I went there I started and this was during this movie brahmastra that he was shooting um and there I was I was cooking for him I I had also cooked for Alia before she she used to be one of our meal prep clients so they were married at this time no they were uh they just started dating I guess yeah uh and yeah was cooking for him then I also cooked for Aon uh then there was Karan joar who came there he was the producer then his mom was there and uh it was so nice and different and kind of challenging too cuz we were in this uh Airbnb not Airbnb but like a hotel um apartment hotels where you would have like a uh a decent enough small setup like a sink a little countertop space and two inductions and a small fridge very tight setup and uh you just have two pans just one frying pan and a sauce pan and there I am like cooking uh everything like you say it we made makak and all that also and just regular yeah um so you have to adapt to different things right you won't get uh you won't get Kashmir L MCH powder you'll get smoked paprika uh you'll get tomatoes you'll get Alternatives that work within the yeah there's like a fine line that can work and uh yeah you just put them together and it kind of makes sense um and again tomatoes are different the garlic is different uh it's the same of course there's pency and the structure and all all of that is there but you know it's the weights grown or I don't know the water yeah water even the agricultur operations uh the one that you get in Bombay I feel uh is good only but uh yeah it's not great but are they is the is the fruit meant to be sweet like a tomato is best and Peak stage it's got to be having that little sweet yeah Tangy of course cuz it's tomato but uh it's going to have the sweet time uh yeah it's like The Sweet Spot the peak if you eat it at and I don't know just the vegetables are much more fresher there for some reason so yeah went there uh started cooking for him and in that time I he used to have a cook at home uh uh who when we were in Bulgaria quit and then he said that dude I don't have this guy now I'm like uh I'll cook for you and I'm I'm also enjoying this I have no uh problems doing this yeah so started cooking as a private chef and uh I would talk about it what I'm cooking for him you know talk about how I'm cooking things out of a home kitchen and um totally realize that there's so much more before this also when we did the meal prep business this we were doing this from a home and then we got into a commercial kitchen setup and all so I've had a fair share of understanding of what all you can turn out from a home kitchen but with him I really push the boundaries cuz uh you bigger oven and uh yeah a person who likes to eat everything was the craziest thing you made at home uh craziest thing I made at home like for him by crazy you mean like a weird food combo or think he pushed he pushed the envelope he pushed me thinking about like uh this is what like cooking an entire uh leg of lamb at home is unheard of you need to have a big ass H for it it's like yeah 3 3.5 kgs of uh yeah baby goat to about 1.82 uh kgs of a leg otherwise this one time I cook like a 3.5 kg whole leg Jesus Christ in a in a d and man it fit in there though yeah I mean you have to fold it and all fold Bend its knees on leg pack it up but yeah you could do that then um man uh to bake like so many different uh kind of things like make a shoe pastry at home and you make a cake at home you know cooking a lamb at home and uh man uh you know fermenting things and made our own miso and uh you know things like your Tache which is like a drink a probiotic drink that you make with pineapple skin and all so doing those kind of things doing a lot of lacto fermented vegetables uh making a sausage not a sausage but like a cold cut pruto but with drug breast so you hang it in your duck breast with duck breast so you hang it in your fridge for like uh 28 days and yeah you cure the meat and thinly slice it and you eat it uh so all this you were doing at like his house um some of it at his some of it at mine um and I just realized that a home kitchen can be fully equipped to do a pleora of work uh you know also cooking different Cuisines every day you're doing Chinese Mexican Japanese Italian and American Indian food so many Regional Indian food um if you have the right setup and the right set of equipments and stuff I think it's ingredients and knowledge and skill set yeah all of this if you have I think you are good to go one of my life goals is to either have like a tandur or a a grill not a grill a barbecue like a barbecue fully equipped to make anything at some point in my life when I have a backyard oh super you get small portable ones now uh you can like good enough to do like three tanduri Roes at a time or you can do like just one or two legs of lamb or maybe five sticks of chicken dick I've seen those Nets also that you do it all or like the stove I think those are there see it's it's all about understanding the application of heat is how it's going to be on onto the on the meat or the veg that you're treating it can be in an oven with the top grill on it can be on a Cy which is going to be giving you the coal flavor and the coal smoke uh it could be on a gas where you're cooking it over that nowadays you even have the blow torch so you torch it up um there are various ways to get to the end point that you desire once you understand the science and how you get to it so it's like you create a map okay I draw meat and I want to come to a Sharma at home so at in a home maren the center uh thing stick rotates this way but a shower spit is ideally this way so no you don't do that you just keep it like this slice it yeah but cooking heat is from yeah coming from one side and um once you once you understand all of this I think and you need to know how to cut vegetables you need to know so many things so if you know how to use this to your best advantage and create something yeah man yeah till the you don't have to like gizo stones to [ __ ] make fire man life's more easy nowadays yeah cutting is the thing that I haven't been able to just crack yeah it's like what do you do you struggle with most vegetables or like only the onion and the onion now like yeah but now if I want to make it into rings and like make um caramelized onions like that's something that I struggle at fully and then when they're not cut the same way they're not cooked the same way some of it cooks faster some of it Cooks later so some will be uneven I'm so happy that you know that yeah even I experienced it I didn't know it or even with tomatoes like tomato garlic anything that you put in unless it's cut equally yeah it's just difficult to some people do that purposely so that they have various textures of yeah I always blame the knife I'm like this is not a cutting knife how many good professional lives you would use at home none uh everyone has that standard pla with that little saw thing yeah which is actually not good to cut yeah it's just too small a blade over the years like there's so many knives also that you invest in specific knife for [Music] bread have you guys seen those blades that they use like at the sandwich shop like a machete it's like it's a blade it's not a knife and it just goes through everything that and they got it they got so sharp like they don't even use the boat they're just slicing tomatoes off their hands and yeah I haven't seen I've never seen this no the normal yeah it's a real thin Long Blade yeah it just kind of insane yeah those those people have some like I'm sure there is like level of skill that goes into that also because they're like cooking so quick first of all yeah I mean the what they're cooking is nothing really complex but it's just that to get it out in time and also get let it be consistent every day of the year I think there is some skill that goes in there of course and you do it based on what your means are right if if you have a certain set of knives and a certain setup I guess that that you see across all sort of food uh skills like you'll see that in a sandwich shop or you'll see that in a really top end restaurant as well that the person who cooking they always going to be very uh organized and have things very ergonomically kept because it's more like a dance flow after the end of it you know WR the butter and put the Chutney put the tomatoes in so you have to be quick and have your setup as we call it or your station uh in a kitchen that station needs to be prepped and equipped enough for you to perform and sell food here I've always wondered when it comes to restaurants how do they consistently get the food to taste the same every day because I'm assuming that's one of the biggest challenges for a restaurant to just get the food to taste the exact same every time they cook it because my mom cooks food right and she'll cook the same dish but it doesn't taste the same all the time it'll be very close but you can tell the difference sometimes exactly the same but I think that's where the craft lies in top of the notch but if you're cooking at Big volumes then you standardize everything you weigh everything down to the and you add it to the G and you make sure that your team follows the recipe to the tea and your suppliers are the same who are supplying the same quality of vegetables every day uh your sections and teams rest is different right so they just doing that job and uh you know going about with it so that's how you create systems in a operation like this that and you make it so depends now depends on the chef like how foolproof they are making it uh some of the work they would keep for themselves cuz the rests are not equipped or sked enough to do it so uh if you standardize things it's it's yeah it's easy and that's that's how you scale how how McDonald's have you seen that movie that found they even measuring how many steps they taking to turn back to take the burger back from the grill to the packing station so it's so calculated to earn cuz like like you said right you put in so many hours to for something that gets over in like seconds like what the [ __ ] like the chichon that wee took had a life of its own after death uh for it to be go out in a bite yeah so I feel like eating that Biryani again how how much difference is there in okay in India we have so many restaurants like you walk on the street and it's just like restaurant after restaurant uh let's say a shi sagur or a mahasagar or like how what is the main thing that differentiates these people in terms of quality cuz the kitchens I'm assuming almost look the same everywhere the kind of Manpower that they get is similar vendors everything like vendors also the same vendors are also the same yeah the same supplies right and the menu is also pretty much the same like you have 400 to 500 items which is just crazy I don't I don't know how how you is India the only country that has no no even even Asian countries but like if you see a Chinese restaurant sauces will change certain W and this that will change chicken will be cut in like three different ways and you know one will be grilled one will be fried one that's the that's the key to a good Shu of how they are designing your menu and making sure that you have every single variation covered so and that's also thought from a perspective that what is it that you want to offer in your menu and it should be um it should be having everything for everyone who will walk into that door even a j guy and yeah so you just uh designed menus that way and um I I do uh get to this uh get this point that they all are the same and serving the same kind of food um but you only cater to a certain vicinity and a certain radius of people right not now cuz now you know everyone delivers from a different city to out here as well so uh those gaps are getting shorter um but yeah it's it's of uh how you we a story of doing your masala dosa or you probably just don't we a story just make a masal in fact those restaurants won't even care if [Laughter] say so I hate rude Hospitality like it's I mean yeah service Serv is a very important part of any but now they are they are Ching customers they don't give [ __ ] they like you get because for them it's just that constant constant otherwise they're going to tr squeezing some people next to you also some restaurants do that right like Shing there are some restaurants where once you're done eating now you can't sit and chat with your friend who youve gone they'll come you and they not there block is running why would it give you a space to sit there what's your favorite restaurant in mumbay though all you guys in Bombay I have okay I have mine should I go first go go if you have there's this restaurant somewhere in the south called apurva huh I go there I it's been a very long time since I've been but uh they do uh n DOA with with a with a nice fried fish uh suai fried fish okay and and fish curry and it's [ __ ] delicious Kera food is it uh is it for which one abura I think it's somewhere in the South I'm not I'm not sure but it's been a while since I've gone for me it's this place called Sunny Sunny something Sunny Kera food or some [ __ ] like that and they're never open okay like how are you eating from them sometimes they're open and I order and they do like nice is never K like spicy K beef or fish or whatever and every time I've ordered it's been very good I I like Veronicas he like slice verc fancy boy not a fancy I not eaten that much burgers and all yeah the burgers are good pretty yeah yeah what do you think about this I feel like there's a little bit of an uprise with these new American Delhi kind of restaurants right do you do you [ __ ] with them uh I like few who are doing good stuff so uh are there any names you can lick I like Veronicas they do a bagging Burger uh sandwiches also are pretty great uh some of the burger placees I don't really like cuz I I don't understand how you can do a fried chicken burger with chicken breast I would prefer a leg beat over prast a so again very personal opinion uh and I this Americanization has happened quite some time back and it's it's good that it's going on and I think it'll die out in some time cuz yeah or maybe not I don't know cuz how can you compete with fried chicken I mean that's something that's not going out of fashion right uh I feel more and more Cuisines will be a part of our are uh restaurant and ordering out culture even more so now so it's uh it's only a matter of time where you have more options to eat from right yeah Hotel Sunny be right back not I was wondering what is he doing on his phone are busy yeah how bro and they're rated 4.5 what is your favorite uh I I don't have like a favorite favorite like one or two top um I like uh the Bob Cat deed veras the that group um I I also enjoy this uh joint called ABS in mahim barbecue uh no it's mangalorean food and it's a bar sort of let's go there yeah you guys would probably like like it mangalorean food is we love the fishes uh yeah like within India I think it's top two for me like within Indian food like South Indian North Indian whatever mangalorean Cuisine is just up there and I've we've been there a couple of times and we've eaten it there oh you went to mangore mangore and if you haven't been you have to go I I just recently went uh went to manipal uh University uh to this college vaka uh they invited us invited us to do campus interviews and um it's kind of big thing for uh for me and my team as well to to go and recruit kids who are freshly graduating and uh 17 to 25 yeah yeah you found some good ones uh yeah uh I've had so some of the team members have been from that college um and their skill levels right after College have been like top like they do understand about food very well um and it's it's it's a really big thing right if a college is inviting you to come and recruit from so uh in fact they we got to know that they are even so happy with the kind of work that we are doing that they asked us to sign anou and uh uh they want to do a case study on the kind of work we are doing so it was uh the food was great the vi was great and to get such respect for the kind of work we are putting out um man yeah so uh great experience in Mangalore uh overall it's one of but the first time only I visit I'm yet to explore cuz I was only there to hire only bounce yeah it's one of my favorite places to go to just chill cuz the food is great they have the beaches yeah there some place in UD like near UD there's this one lady who started the guos thing so basically you have to call them up like one or two days in advance they say shy Lun home is the place no there some one lady yeah so you have to call her up like a day or two in advance and tell her that I'm coming and then she'll keep it prepared you can't go there and eat which is like kind of Swag yeah yeah some old lady making this there is a place in Goa like that that I discovered the last time I was there it's called some auntie I think it's called the restaurant is called tja or something oh thali Place yeah they do fish thali and there is a lady named tja who who does the cooking and you can like see her man Goa is so [ __ ] iconic bro I feel like the the things you only get to see there I studied there I did my Hospitality there for 4 years yeah crazy Goa has nice food like I go to go to eat it it kind of uh like I I explored more of Israeli and all these other kinds European food and uh steak and whatever seafood and all out there only uh Been Good Fellas uh have you been to that restaur no I hav it's really it's really good when you you should go I'll check it out uh but I'm talking about Goa was way back but yeah what was College like in Goa cuz we all go to Goa to party and you studying over there very different and uh man this like now what I graduated about 13 14 years back so back then go was a very different vibe yeah to what it is right now is yeah you feel like it's commercialized a lot dude we saw the first sunburn for second while I was there starting so that time it was way different 2007 six or seven so way back and uh now it's completely different that time the party scene was different the food scene was different you uh I mean technically you wouldn't find food and go at any given point of time cuz back then uh they not made uh like there's no dominoes or uh no there was Domino's uh not like big restaurants would have come in to get a plate of paaji you would have to go to panim to a certain restaurant eat a samosa maybe you won't get Samosa otherwise outside so uh very different uh culture You' get these crazy ass crap thali and all for really cheap at every nooking corner like you have you would have your spots and you would have your rust omelet Sports and all the Portuguese food they have Portuguese food food uh lot of Israeli community so hummus and stuff quite big uh yeah and mostly otherwise go food the seafood and all was really great so end up eating that plus we were cooking uh in the college and also uh you know to understand food from uh from that level where you studying about it uh was was different yeah fun a lot of fun though outside go outside college life was a lot more fun yeah what do you end up doing that you spend a lot of time partying and stuff you would have college Monday to Friday uh 9 to 5 post 5 you are you're done so uh you usually are going for a uh Su Downer gig somewhere going cracking open a beer watching the sunset chilling with your friends and life 10:00 parties would end so you come back home and uh 10:00 they end yeah 9 bar and on used to be on through the week till 10: and only on uh Tuesdays and Thursdays there were these parties at CES and sha Valley which would be on till 121 um and then there are special days where there some full moon night or something then then it's on and all but otherwise chill party and you're going there chilling hanging coming back home uh W home going to college next day and weekends you're free so yeah does GOA have the best food in if if you were to like rank states where in the country huh in the country like where do you think you get the best food in India uh people from Delhi say it's in Delhi people from I have a very different Outlook towards this cuz now uh I start seeing it from a very ingredient perspective um I feel the quality of produce up north and extreme down south is really the best yeah what in the center is the places that I haven't explored I don't know about but if I have to compare that with what we get here in Bombay pulls apart like bro in Bombay I would Max go to 1 and a half garlic none and I would start feeling a little full or bloated or whatever you make that feeling I went to Punjab bro I could eat like four or five of them they so [ __ ] light and the minute I start told my friend that bro it's it's so clean and he's likeo like they like we don't respect our you know FL so much and now there's a different perspective where you're coming from outside and saying that dude your quality of FL is really grown there right yeah and uh maybe uh to come to us to come to Bombay you have to add multiple layers bulk it up and there's lot many hand go on to the production I don't know what goes up but also you're keeping the best produce for yourself yeah bro the best produce of India is all getting outside of India I feel oh right it's going out export is all going out yeah I mean you need to have the right connections to get the India's best to you so now you build your relations and uh people that way to get you know that stuff done for yourself isn't India the biggest ex second biggest exporter of beef in the world it is first or second all that stuff goes to uh South Africa and Africa and all those places but yeah uh the the month that they banned beef in Maharashtra the slaughter of it uh the sales from uh exporting beef uh to exporting rice which is grown in Maharashtra cuz we have a lot of Patty Fields uh the the income generated from the export of beef was way higher like three 3x to what it is from rice and marra is known to grow rice yeah so imagine a so what about the other states and that's something to think about because if the goal for Banning beef is to stop the slaughter of the animal the animals this isn't doing that at all like there still it's just the people here aren't getting it see but it's it's also very different right how much are we uh breeding these cows to slaughter most of it is for milking and once it's done milking then they are slaughtering it to feed people and most of the places are only serving you a particular part of that beef that is above is consumed like most of restaurants would serve you tenderloin so we'll do whatever to make the money we want with it like I I heard somewhere in the news also there's some uh whatever uh vegetarian Family household business who don't uh eat at all are in the business of in the business of selling beef and I'm like man and uh the other industry that they are into is dairy so I'm like also very similar like they say the people who own like wine shops they never drink drink yeah yeah it's something similar to that when some people are good at business of it and some people are in it for the passion of it and yeah it's a little weird like I don't have a problem with it being banned per se if it's for if the purpose was to stop the slaughter of cows because they're in Indian culture they've always been sacred I'm okay with that but if you're just doing it as a show of like look as a politic it's kind of but that's why the laws are different different states here uh the laws are made as for that yeah so in certain States it's still allowed in certain States it's still allowed to purchase from outside and sell out here so it's it's different it's different that uh how every state functions and what their laws are MRA May it's not allowed I mean I'm sure there places where you could go sour some nice beef but then it's probably under the under under the table beef dealer under the table I mean I don't have a problem with it being banned like if you go to other countries if you go to the Middle East where poke is banned all over the place it's just the way it is like some some get it everyone has their own fan of beef anyway it's like you losing out all options to eat yeah it's not like you're losing there was a lack of options for you then T I can make a fuss but there so much of variety in this country yeah I mean with when it comes to meat and stuff India is like almost fully limited to chicken and mutton like if you go to restaurants like that's the main thing you'll get then I only eaten chicken growing up like mutton and all so now I've begun to eat other meats M I think it's a very typical Indian house of thing where it's okay to eat chicken but not even with chicken like most families don't eat chicken every day even if they are like non vegetarian I've grown up eating a lot of seafood and uh I'm I'm half maharan and half guu so vegetarian and uh a lot of seafood growing up in fact I started eating chicken and mutton much later uh don't really like it as a kid apparently eat fish and now recently I started you know turning towards more pescatarian sort of meat choices like choose more Seafood just nicer you feel better later it's also my favorite form of protein is it is it healthy to eat it every day I've heard of things like mercury poisoning if you're eating that kind of fish now if you're eating a farmed fish then it's a different thing Fresh Catch from the surface of yeah the sea it's pretty good that see you have to also understand that you've not been a guy who been your your family or generation are there people who have been eating protein and you know carbs and fats in a certain amount and all we all eat in a very Community sty thank you uh Community Style Dining right if the curry is good today you're going to take an extra Roy or rice and eat with it uh we don't have uh portioned out food as what a European diet would be you know the steak mash and greens on your plate it's pre-plated pre- portioned so uh like I said it dep depends on different diets depends on how uh what kind of choices you make to have a healthier way and healthier lifestyle of eating food so yeah it's fun though it's fun to figure out what you want and how you want to eat like right now I'm figuring it out cuz when you work out suddenly the way you eat changes by itself because you realize very quickly if you eat the way you were eating before while working out it's just not it doesn't work out out true U like I've been going to the gym consistently for 2 weeks and then I checked my weight I was like I've actually like lost weight where my goal was to put on weight so now I'm trying to consciously eat more try to eat more fats and like for someone like me who has super high metabolism rate it's just like now it's a challenge for me to eat more than I'm used to wow so like I'm trying but that's that's facts you know cuz we whenever we talk about health and fitness we only talk about weight loss as a major subject but dude to put on weight is also a task for it very big very big task um and um it's so funny cuz the bigger narrative is there's so many malnourish kids we're talking about weight loss as a as a [Music] thing that OIC is what's popping off right now I have no idea what it does I just oh so you you just don't you're starving yourself to weight loss basically you don't feel like eating you don't feel like eating it curves your appetite uh I don't know how helpful or not explain in the long run I don't think I think it's one of those things that like in a couple of years people will say oh OIC actually has these side effects and like everyone but OIC has been you'll come to know whether it's working or not but I think his point was it's become some sort of a fad right now so people will consume it more more a lot of people are on it to see it's pretty simple calories in calories out the amount you burn in a day and if you have a surplus consumption of it you're going to put on that much more and lot of factors to this your metabolism your hormones your activities that you do in a day um if you eat lesser and burn more if you go in that deficit it's pretty simple math if you lose up about 7,000 calorie deficit if you're in you'll lose one kilogram of body fat so this is now a structure now you create this structure there are various ways to now know that okay how many calories you have burned today and uh there's a way to calculate that how much calories you have consumed today based on your Fitness goal whether you want to gain weight then you'll eat clean food off 2,000 calories and Burn only th000 or if you're burning 2,000 calories in a day you want to up your diet to 3,000 calories if you're trying to gain if you're trying to lose you eat only 1,000 calories and uh burn up to 2,000 calories a day so have that 1,000 calorie defit So within deficit So within a week you drop a kilogram of body fat if there's a thousand deficit every single day now for that to achieve that you have to make sure your meals are potion controlled based on a certain type of diet that you're supposed to eat uh certain food groups that that are going to be helpful for your body and uh how much of willpower and control you have over your uh yeah it's it's all this right yeah essentially to lose weight the main thing is to eat less and to a level where you're still nourished and yeah at this kind of helps because your appetite is curbed you don't feel hungry if you're not feeling hungry then it's a [Music] it works very quick right OIC yeah cuz just instant effects was what I've heard that you know something that very naturally I don't know how what's the science behind it or how it's I it's used to cure diabetes yeah cuz uh so this something has to do with insulin spikes yeah um yeah pretty cool though yeah I mean it's a this whole weight loss thing is uh there's so many layers to it like it's not also always so hack right you're trying to even a keto diet it's a crash diet and then you put it all for people who have diabetes again or cancer and whatever they trying to heal that with that so if it's if it's suting your body your lifestyle and it's for the betterment of you to live longer or better then you adapt to that and you adapt to those eating habits but uh like I said to each their own you it's very important to know Fitness go what what is it that you're trying to achieve with this mine right now is to get as jacked as I can before the end of the year that was my like bro but I don't get that you was like very because I wanted to sit down and have a conversation so I didn't want to like crash that's why I had like two coffees also after but yeah for me it was a challenge to eat do you notice this that how coffees letting you wake up and yeah uh it cut gives you that boost yeah uh just maybe a stimulant or uh whatever you eat in the carbo it's not really kicking in for you to or if you eat more proteins only and you know kick the carbs out how there's no insulin Spike so you don't really feel lethargic feel a little more up and yeah you can you know go around with your day and say there are these certain things that you eat and which is by your means and all of that once you know your pattern now yeah then you're then you're set then you just have to yeah deal it coffee is a utility drink for me like I treat it like that it's a tool I now I've stopped having coffee for no reason I have it only when there is a purpose for like the next so before a workout I'll do like an espresso shot just quick easy and it does the job or if I'm sitting down to work and I'm not feeling up to it like a cup of coffee will get me there but I don't like the idea of just having coffee for the the sake of having coffee anymore cuz then I get jittery if I'm not doing anything and I'm idle I get super jittery my thoughts are like all over the place wow for for me I I live to eat I want to eat a good [ __ ] meal I want to I I like drinking different kinds of coffees uh to taste and then forming my opinion on which one I like the most and how much it's roasted and whatever be it with anything that I put in my mouth yeah uh yeah just I want to know it should be a certain caliber standard yeah have you have you guys sometimes I have a cheat day where it's just like whatever like I just I'm yeah those days we don't talk the SC don't count sometimes the standards are dropped but fully sometimes your pallet wants P boy well let's talk we've spoken about eating a lot let's talk about drinking now cuz that's the whole other that's the whole other world like people who go to culinary school I think they learn about like people go to hospitality management so hotel management if you go to you learn uh food production which is the cooking part you learn FNB service so how you serve Beverages and food uh uh that is what the second is third is housekeeping uh clean toilets make your beds all that and uh you used to Bunk those I've done that yeah I've done uh I've done during my industrial training you got to do all departments and then this front office which is like uh at when you when you're a traine you're picking bags and yeah going to rooms and all and B boy deliveries and all it was different yeah there there are times that uh housekeeping was also fun um yeah you get like weird requests from guests to go and get things and uh yeah something crazy uh I was in Goa uh and a lot of people think that it's easy to ask people for drugs who serve to everyone just knows where I'm like uh you're at work like what the hell yeah yeah like [Laughter] you see that a lot and uh the whole uh restaurant culture and all is so spoken about party culture yeah that whole narrative is always going to be there and people come out to uh you have a good time like imagine would you ever guys do a gig in a dry State it'll be very difficult yeah right what people are going to have like CH and all yeah coffee coffee a lot of coffee that's it yeah but do you like cocktails with your meals or are you more like a food person I'm I like cocktails I like to drink uh like I said everything has to be a certain standard and caliber I'll put in my mou no problem do you have like a go-to drink uh off lately I've been I switched to Tequila mod I've been drinking everyone's on the way tequila is the new new yeah so a lot of picantes picantes are my favorite spicy you like spicy in in a beverage for some reason it doesn't sit like it has to be everything has to be balanced well see uh just powder tonic mixed stirred with like a sliced chili like a I so unpopular op but I don't understand the hype of Jin but P Exile I don't get [ __ ] high with it I think it's a Hox I it's like this drink that you don't want to drink and you're drinking us like I'll tell you the appeal of Jin Okay it definitely gets you drunk if you drink enough but it's better than vodka which was what people would drink before like if you're into clear clear Spirits Spirits it was vodka or white rum and Jin easily beats them both like vodka it's flavorful I I would I would give Jin that has those black there's a lot you can Infuse it with a lot of things also it's the cost so you you're spending 1,500 on a very good quality gin true for 1,500 you're not getting a good quality vodka you're not getting like a smof or something yeah but to a whiskey Drinker what you you can't really whiskey is the next level where I've come to now now I'm whiskey so i' always been a whiskey guy and then to Jin because it was in the wave the wave was there and I started drinking didn't like realize like dude this is not doing [ __ ] to me but it's good that it's not doing [ __ ] to me so I've been able to drink it then it moved to tequila and now I drink I drink Sake and wines and nice uh I I I drink all beverages yeah M yeah except Maza why what about what about Fanta Fanta also I like sometimes yeah man Fanta is a little too Fanta is [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah is not nice there is a purpose for Fanta and L and Mountain to exist it's like you have it once a year once a year and Mountain Dew can be consumed at any point of I that Mountain Dew I I dislike amongst the a drinks yeah so it's the best it once best I I I I was still back thumbs up for me oh I don't like thumbs up it's too sweet for me for me it's like the combination account like made it yeah I saw that it's bought over by Coke bought over but the par started it as a competition limka also is quite fizzy that way you like yeah limka is good spr you know the the part where these pet bottles that you get the first the first time when you open it time it's good by the time it gets the halfway through used to get the small pet bottles like 250 M the smaller ones yeah so you have it in one go the cans are the best now I feel yeah the cans Diet Coke is what I've been tasting that aluminium is yeah yeah it makes it the can Mountain Dew tastes better than bottled Mountain Dew yeah think the taste of aluminum that's why I don't think it's the carrier of what Mountain Dew is it it is in ends your drink possibly see when it comes to these drinks I think Coke is like the Undisputed King I don't think no one will ever come close to Coke and then why do you think Pepsi exists but what do you mean I mean Pepsi still exists in a market where everyone's doing coke drinking Coke but there's actually feel like a lot of people every genius has its what every Masterpiece has its Che uh demand no like Pepsi's also done good marketing for themselves yeah but I I don't know people that drink Pepsi none of you all mentioned a Pepsi brand no if you think about it no Mountain Dew is De is a Pepsi brand okay I love Mountain Dew Pepsi does good water Aquafina is Aquafina is good I thought Aquafina is Coke Aquafina is Pepsi Pepi they have the Pepsi thing on the smart Waters Coke Smart Waters Coke yeah Coke cracked it ear right they got they got the cocoa leaves [Music] in that's where that signature flavor comes from they took cocoa leaves Cola flavor yeah with cocoa leaves and it used to contain the cocaine as well at the start then they were like you can't be putting cocaine into the world's most popular drink so then they found a way to like extract the cocaine out and still use the leaves so Pepsi was I think Pepsi filed the lawsuit how do these guys get to use cocoa leaves in where it's banned and then they patented it also so no other company can use it oh so it's like a formulation no matter how hard Pepsi tries they can't get that because the formula is patented wow so that's do you even know about that that they flip the can to see the coke Coca-Cola sign to be such a way that the guy is like starting a line turn the co oh to the new side the new one the old one used to have they they used to say something like that uh and obviously I I don't think so that's true but probably it's like a myth what do you think about Diet Coke do you think there are really zero calories no it's just nice to drink I like it CU Aspartame is sweeter than normal sugar so it's even sweeter than the normal yeah it's really nice they might not be sugar but there's a but have you tried aspartame by itself no no okay you guys should is itad no it's it's just it's by itself it's like a JY sweet okay the flavor profile is sweet you would have sugar or aspam you will find Sweetness in it but yes there are these certain nuances that you'll find like have you tried Stevia yeah so Stevia will have that Herby notes to it same way aspartam has very chemically notes and sugar has yeah raw sugar notes yeah Coke is one of those things that you have to be careful with cuz if you get hooked and and it's like a thing that you consume daily like there's nothing worse than drinking Coke every day yeah now it's just like once in a while I treat myself to like a can of Coke and it's the best can of Coke ever but then it again goes away for like weeks D I don't know how you put a cap on that I love I have replaced it bro that [ __ ] what you drink Coke the sugar is good but you can get the sugar from somewhere else it's the Fizz that you miss so now I just have like sod or n soda or sparkling water if you're feeling fancy it's so fun to order sparkling water how what is the disparity in the price like perer decent bar will be like 4o it's yeah but I don't know how different it is than a soda or it's naturally sparkly no right I think it's just Caron carbonated water I first like very well branded that means that yeah even the cans like the they look like fancier than like kin or whatever Biser soda or what is that round bottle dues yeah but then they're all the same like I has to been in the game for like forever is it a I don't think is I think they've just started with it's great it makes water like exciting yeah but can you replace it as regular daily use water like water you want to drink if you wanted to no there should there shouldn't be a problem with you having there these flavored Waters as well right this Peach flavored and that's quite stupid ocean I used to think it's good then I read the back what is it sugar of sugar filled with sugar like a lot of sugar like you wouldn't it's as good as C it's [ __ ] delicious though bad the beach disgusting it's such a good mixer also I I personally uh like if if you if you have the apparatus to distill [ __ ] beaches and get the distill Essence out and then put in water that'll be great but yeah nobody's doing that so ocean for now with mixers you're not supposed to mix alcohol with sweet sweet it gives you I know but DEH mean fun part is always when you do things that you're asked not to do not to I mean why is there a p then you so but you do one p you can't like drink P colas the whole night I only once drank like the whole night I was using apple juice as a mixer oh I was [ __ ] for like 2 days after that the hango was so bad bro see sugar dehydrates alcohol dehydrates you put it together you're just dehydrated I love padas and he loves being dehydrated also I swear he loves being dehydrated it all works out yeah I I'll be there to like you drink more water after that that's fine I'm a big water drink I like water big water like you know every place water tastes different I think aquaa has coconut flavor though in that P coconut flavor or something something that's nice which I feel from a coconut water n p whenever I drink I I I I get very similar flavor I don't know I've got very into tasting water have you tried these like mountain spring water type Brands like AA and tast [ __ ] they're disgusting I tell you the most the the mystery one of uh via oh yeah the one Thea no dude why they they claim that the water is come and they have people who taste the water their jobs are to taste this water good job here and like tell whether it's like supposed to taste like that or not yeah there black water also which tastes like water it tastes like water what is supposed to be neutral right why we like so but water still tastes different different places like in b in a copper cup it's different tastes has flavor yeah but you got to let sit in it and yeah then you get the flavor out it's supposed to be good for you and uh there's something I've noticed you guys have had since the start you us to always have copper who who got this habit I started I started with like I'd get uh bottle water okay and then someone was like do you get this for every Epis I was like yeah it's just cleaner because people just open it open it it and they were like it's that's a lot of plastic yeah I was like oh okay but that's a great move to yeah the copper glass I mean something that stayed with me when I saw your podcast for the first time like hey man that's that's cool these have been scrubbed into Oblivion like also oh nice to us sweet someone sent the the someone saw that and they were like you know you guys use it and you all have such dirty glasses you're taking hours these are become dirty these ones my dad gifted us yeah he just got them yeah pretty cool is is that you or Stewie it's come on bro these are great for drinking also because like you don't see your drink yeah yeah you don't see the drink and it's just it's open to interpretation like right now I could be drinking anything a lot of people wonder that are you drinking and uh doing the pot or you guys no but why have we chosen to be discreet about because it's not a good look yeah in India it's still not a good look and at the same time when you're seeing drinking and speaking everything that you say is just like oh he's drunk so he's saying it yeah but at the same time you're watching all the other podcast of the west where they're [ __ ] eating shrooms and all and doing uh the like this on the here if if he do something like that it's an NCB case like yeah we mushrooms are legal then maybe we can Mumbai based podcaster C think eating magic mushrooms on something like that no drinking is still fine though like the drinking culture in India has evolved over the a lot yeah it's kind of dying down though right now I feel no it's not so the recent podcast that uh I I cooked on it was all about alcohol and uh they were saying that I saw that whole episode and they mentioned that the the Millennials are not really drinking as much J are not drinking as much sorry Millennials are uh the Jes are not drinking as much and uh I don't know how something else right being sober yeah sober is the new a lot of them it was like basically we I think we kind of figured out this because when they were growing up like their formative years of 17 18 19 when you generally start drinking they were in the lockdown but all gen is that right we are technically genzi but okay we're quite like 98 onwards is Gen 97 onward 97 onwards is genz and we're 98 okay so yeah we are genzi with a with a millennial upbringing that's yeah like that your parents are uh Peak Millennials probably no no no they'll be older 17 1970 6 60s yeah mine was in the 60s both my I don't know why they remove this uh whole category to segregate classify the generations cuz our habits and are a lot of it has to do with like consumer patterns and like a lot of it is that like how does geni consume content how do they consume product how do they consume this like you saw you you said that jenzi isn't consuming alcohol as much that's that's how they have come up with the graphs like to understand how theya that's why that's the reason why it's easier is to understand your consumer and it's always better to Target the younger audience cuz they will be a loyal customers longer customers yeah I mean that's what we do with this podcast like a lot of the people who watch this are 16 17 18 oh right so for them like this whole alcohol conv ation I hope it's not relatable I I hope we find a lot of young people wanting to cook more I was going to talk about that would you say it's better to go get formal training or just like kind of figure it out on your own and uh see formal training obviously helps education systems now are way better uh you you also it's not only the education that you get but it's the people that you're going to be working in with in the future as well right cuz you meet them in college and if you all going to be in the same industry uh these networks and connections are something that you build on and you work over the years in the same trade if you're in so um and what happens what I've seen is uh at least in my uh circle of friends like we uh we were a batch of 200 people that join uh Hospital hotel management together uh at the time when you start off there there are maximum number of people who want to become a chef uh about 50% of them die down within the first year itself then the second year comes in where they get on the job trading that you go to a hotel and do like a 6 month industrial trading um that's when more uh 70 80% get filtered out because they're like dude I don't want to sign up for this life and um then even if you graduate and still decide to do this a lot of people leave this because it's not a well-paying job at the uh at the start uh even down the line as well uh I mean things have gotten better now uh for sure and you know restaurants are uh a good way to earn a decent income and all of that uh but yeah there are still it's not as much as uh I mean I had that uh going on for me as well as soon as I got out of college I always knew I want to become a chef from a very young age and you know did everything to get to that point but when I got out of college I started bartending cuz I had done a bartending course with few of my friends back in Goa but was not interested to do bartending ever which is that we have four friends and three of them were wanted to do that course and we only had two bikes to ro around so like and learn little cocktail making Andy and flare Bart trending and all that but uh I came back to Bombay and I was not finding the right job that I wanted wanted to work towards like I knew I want to do Asian so started bartending going to events I even did a little bit of call center uh just because those are better paying jobs than uh kitchen but after doing all of that I still realized that dude I'm not very happy doing this year like bartending also I want to be on the other side of the bar [ __ ] it I don't want to be making drinks and all for people uh and yeah then I decided that okay I'm going to find a job and start working at and ever since the that day like I got I found the right job that I wanted uh started working in this restaurant here called yaa in bkc uh yaa yaa yaa yeah yaa yaa yeah so this is an Asian restaurant it's an Asian restaurant it's a tea and nsum house it's used to be a one Michin from London it was a franchise brought to India okay um and another a part of the pre-opening team for Bombay here in bkc and uh then went on to open Bangalore and New Delhi with them uh so my Foundation has been from canones cooking and what I realized is that we study French cooking in colleges cuz they have the best uh I mean they are the ones who created the whole uh I would say uh hierarchy and they documented uh culinary very well so that was their adapted by everyone who wanted to uh open whatever started a Hospitality school and uh uh That Was Then globally adapted by everyone and you know they made their teaching modules based on French culinary but when I entered a Chinese restaurant I realized that it's very much the same just that the Chinese and Indians have never written about it documented or spoken about it even these guys have sauces even these guys have you know the way they treat their meat or uh you know the way they cut their vegetables and the cooking process and the kind of Staples that you have like a pasta and a noodle it's pretty much the same but done in different sauces and so on so um the it's very important to ask yourself this question that what is it that you would be happy eating 7 days of the week or happy cooking seven days of the week once you're out of the college and for me the first answer was indana very close was Asian and that's why I chose to work in a Asian restaurant and you love that food so you want to make yeah I I want to know how to uh do it and most of my friends uh who were interested in kitchen and all they all wanted to learn European CU that's more appealing and you know more fine dining so it catches that kind of eye so uh what I was trying to say is that a lot of people who started off wanting to become a chef entered a Hospitality or hotel management or a culinary school in specific leave out of it and don't want to do that life further because it's not paying well or it's too demanding it's physically very uh intensive so in the end they quit and there are very few people who are you know still remaining who pursue this as a profession um I feel we as a country need more chefs uh like I said we have very big a population and we don't have enough hands to feed the whole population so if uh yeah if 16 17 year old year olds are watching be a chef yeah you get great perks now and uh great places that you can uh cook and learn and yeah provide to the society I think it's one of those things that you if you put in the effort and get really good at it there is no reason that you won't earn well or make it because if you're a good Chef there is like you're not going to go apply for a job and get rejected because like you said there is a demand for it all the time for sure so but see now it's very subjective right the kind of restaurant you're getting into um Lo where it's located what's the kind of Cuisine that is to you like do I want to be a Japanese Chef that I'll be okay I'll go to a Japanese restaurant Che making but whether I'll get to work in the sushi section or whether I'll get to work in the ramen section depends on the operations of and the kind of uh Manpower that is there and uh that usually uh is the learning curve for you because you are doing and you know uh learning more about it uh but with with the kind of work that we are doing right now we have that like I don't some of the questions that one of us have came and asked how can I make Chinese food and I'm like cuz you know how to cut you know how to cook you know how the range works you know how oil works you know how heat works how can you limit yourself to you know just cuine so that's usually the notion uh people uh you know get stuck to and I feel with this if you use this as your creative Outlet to put yourself you know wanting to do wack things M you can yeah sky is the limit there's so much around you that you can play with and uh have fun with like I said uh you want to eat good food every day you got to yeah I mean it comes down to that but at the same time it's an art form it's an art form that involves a lot of technique and skills and also science so it it does if you master it there is nothing like it it's one of the I've I've uh I agree to that but uh you know now so many years in the in in in the scene I feel uh you can I feel I want to do something in music cuz I don't think so food is able to touch that many people as much as music does right yeah music I think it's like a universal language I've heard it's interesting you've said that I've heard that from like comedians also they're like we do this and I know I'm a good comedian and I make people laugh but like the hold that a musician has over a crowd is just something that I know I will never achieve bro my musician friends are uh on on the opposite yeah like you're mad you think food has more touching deep I'm like no bro yeah but food is I feel like food you could say that about food because it's more vital you know to you as as a whole fun your relationship intim also like you're it's something that goes in your body as funny as that sounds and just like a song it could even like a meal there's more of a chance of meal makes or breaks your day you know yeah no true that is there but now like when I'm on a particular diet of following something I'm eating as per functionality chicken broccoli whatever you know so uh there are only few days that you are really enjoying your food and or you are at a stage now you want to eat everything like top yeah you every meal has to be like uh a feast or whatever just good variety or just a good cooked meal that you want out of it so it's it's varied uh so when you say music what music I feel uh food I feel evokes only joy as an emotion out uh music has actually no food also can do sad and many things I don't know just there's something about music that I feel it invokes many more emotions than just Joy sadness and the amount of uh say food touches five emotions music touches 10 yeah and since you're seeing food also like an everyday thing to it you don't emphasize on it music is still for something I don't know music is used in different ways like music can stress you out also like if used in a let's say in an action sequence where the director wants it to be stressful I'm not that music I'm talking about uh song or play instrument like you you are to music all three of you yeah it's it's a different feeling right if you're stud on the next and you have 100 of people that you can the thing is that one two hours of their life they're dedicating to you yeah which is something and you're responsible for how they feel that night yeah like if you play a bad set they're like same same I guess with food also someone's there for 2 hours and you're there to make sure that they eat right if they don't it's going to leave a bad review and yeah that's but I don't know I I still feel maybe it's just a creative glitch after many years of you need that other thing the one thing I've realized if you have this one thing that you do and you're good at you also need this other thing that you do and you're kind of good at and yeah pick up the guitar bro it's no the hand pan is what I'm ke on oh the what that also wantan ohos closest thing that like two walks that put two I played on it once you play anything on it nothing sounds bad it's just so peaceful and it's so good uh but yeah man cooking by itself takes so much of your time with the kind of work uh that goes around it like the Biryani we ate took some great amount of hours to for it to done so it was worth it wor every second so you know the time uh that you can allocate to something new as of now I probably don't but uh as in men now we have a larger team and know the team grows and the work grows I guess I'm going to try and put some time off to learn hand pan it's been on my list for a while now yeah yeah you should do it yeah I wish you all the best for your hand pan journey and also the rest of your journey Pan Asian Journey all the pans in your life no but what you're doing is very it's very cool and thank you thank you it's good that we know we have access to a meal like that it's just like it made my day and to sit down and talk to you about if I'm being honest I've been wondering about that food like for a while he's waiting for waiting to go back and eat some I don't think there's any left I think we it's over yeah be some not the ribs the okay we'll go check maybe some if I have a restaurant then yeah you guys will have more access to this for sure we'll be regular yeah for now I can come to your house and cook food for you thank you man thank you so much thank you so much for doing this Chef everyone go check out the private Chef Club thank you if you can afford it great if not just thank you thank you for having me guys cheers oh sweet