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Youth Engagement and Gen Z Movement in Kenya

mhm good way of looking at it a good way of looking at it would you like to hear my proverb oh you have a proverb I brought you a proverb because we're going to be talking about youth engagement yes so in Ireland we speak English because like Kenya we were colonized by the British but we have our own language Irish gelic and in Irish um we say m and CH exactly now age would you like to interpret that one yeah is the youth chishi literally means praise the youth and they will come forward but I'd like to think that it means encourage or even engage the youth and they will come forward and it seems to me that's an appropriate one to think o o m which means to praise M on o on youth Aus CH Aus means and Chi they will come literally she will come because youth is female in Irish but anyway yeah yeah so incourage engage Youth and they will come forward and they will come forward very good one city what's your interpretation of this proper well my well from where I sit okay it is this M the youth represent a new beginning the youth represent continuity and if you let the youth flourish then you welcome continuity and the newness of life that is how I look at it very nice what do you say to that St I think that's exactly it he can go home he can go home now yeah there's a story in today's um standard and with a very beautiful photo there see the photo the center page of the standard it says jz's plan with military precision and this the caption for this photo is intern doctors other medical practitioners and genzies protest outside the Ministry of Health headquarters in Nairobi during the Occupy moh protests yesterday the stories on page seven I'm just going to read um some excepts of this story written by Fidelis moaka he says in the arena of Kenyan politics a new Force has emerged reshaping the landscape without traditional leadership hierarchies despite that genz have appeared more organized in the country's political parties that are famous for disorder and fights from within generation Zed Kenya's youngest adults born after 1996 and younger Millennials have sparked a remarkable movement against the controversial finance bill 2024 and other governance in general demonstrating unprecedented organizational progess and digital survey what began as discontent on Tik Tok evolved into a nationwide Revolt showcasing the power of Collective action driven by Youthful determination and digital connectivity the genz has defied conventional wisdom by orchestrating a remarkably well structured movement devoid of centralized leadership operating in physical offices they're leveraging their digital fluency and they've established a communal fund dubbed the kitty pooling resources to cover everything from medical bills for injured comrades to logistics for widespread protests extraordinary big thing that's happened here in the country what the genzi have structured and the main WIS here um they say for example there's a graphic presentation here number one they have a communal fund Kitty for medical bills and Logistics organized hospital visits and providing Aid to Injured comrades blood donation drives for victims of protest related violence armies on Tik Tok and X to disseminate information speed on hashtags like # occupy Parliament and # reject finance bill 2024 unify voices crowdfunding to cover transportation and other costs cyber attacks on government websites to draw attention to their grievances leaking personal information of political leaders for direct engagement creating a digital Wall of Shame listing politicians supporting the finance bill honoring Fallen comrades through memorials and attending funerals extraordinary extraordinary is it yeah um and I really want to speak to some of the really positive d di mentions of what that article I think is very correctly identified the the um the amazing nature of this sometimes called leaderless but actually uh some friends call it leaderful uh movement will you forgive me if I do one thing before I do that before I turn to the positive things and just express my sorrow for those who've lost their lives and their families um the Secretary General of the United Nations as you know he put out a statement very early on in this protest um extending his condolences and I want to repeat that this morning when we were talking in the runup to this Eric I told you I used to go on protests myself as a teenager in Ireland now I'm 57 I'm three times the age of the people on the streets but I remember very well protesting against aparte protesting against uh violence in Central America um protesting by the way about the unequal tax burden in Ireland when I was a teen as well so uh you know this is not unfamiliar ter um but those PR those who protest peacefully have a right to do that that right is an international right it's a universal right and it's a Kenyan right under the Constitution and nobody should lose their life in the course of a peaceful protest and I feel that very very strongly so I wanted to start there but then to go to what your um colleagues uh on the standard um described there yeah well I just said I'm 57 I'm three times the age of these protesters and what they've been able to do in terms of how they organize is remarkable and how you can take a movement that is so large and so engaged and so diffuse and so leaderless or leaderful Y and yet produce articulate a set of Demands that is clearly itemized I think is incredible and it's it's taught us and I don't mind admitting to you it's taught me an extraordinary lesson because I wouldn't have bet on that a year ago about a year ago I was in kibra and it was World youth day and I was speaking to a hall full of about I think about 3 or 400 youth activists and I said I'm fed up of being that old white guy that repeats endlessly we have to listen to Kenya's youth we must listen to Kenya's youth did I mention that we have to listen to Kenya's Youth and you don't leave any time to listen to Kenya's youth but then I said here's my challenge right the last time I checked there are 35 million of you how do I listen as a un official to 35 million of you without going deaf I'm going to be just drowned in all of the diversity of opinion this movement has proven me wrong this movement has shown that you can engage at scale you can organize at scale and yet you can prove to the world that you can prove you can produce a very clear consistent set of expectations and aspirations for the country and for the government and that that's really striking and I think you know uh what I would want to say is that's a moment of opportunity we mustn't lose for Kenya but it's actually a moment of opportunity we mustn't lose for the world yeah it's interesting as you say that because I remember a couple of months ago us having a conversation in this room and we said you know what the the the lines for democracy or the lines for good governance seem to have been drawn by a particular set of people and then that seems to be imposed on other nations and I said you know what Perhaps it is time that Nations and their own decided to draw out the lines for what their democracy should actually look like or maybe it's something else and so now you have Kenya doing a thing that has never been done anywhere in the world there there is no historical event or process that has taken place like what's happening in Kenya today um and so now as we see that do we then also accept or then begin to imagine that a new line or new boundaries of governance then away from what was previous ly drawn out then can actually happen do that's the opportunity that's absolutely the opportunity to reinvent how governance is done but I put two tweaks on it one it's almost unprecedented there are a few interesting examples that are a little bit incomplete they're not really countries there are like cities here or counties there that have experimented with this a bit it's about 7 years ago now that the Oxford English Dictionary it's word of the year was youth Quake because youth were beginning to do this around the world at scale it's not that youth have never protested of course they have um I did uh but in these kinds of numbers right that's that's unprecedented um there are a few places that we can look to for some learning but what Kenya is doing at the level of the nation I think is I can't think of a parallel so that's that's the first um tweak I'd give it but the second one is to say it's Kenya but not just for Kenya Kenya can invent a model now for the rest of the world cuz you're right I mean it's my part of the world that for centuries dictated the terms of what governance should look like it's high time Kenya and countries like Kenya gave lessons to the World on how to do it because this is not a challenge unique to Kenya M all around the world countries and governments are wrestling with how to listen to and engage with youth and how to invent reinvent governance for the 21st century that's that's everywhere so Kenya could lead that if we say that governments around the world are struggling with how or what to do and how to manage the youthful population even those who have a declining population are we then saying that governments around the world are set in their ways and that the majority of people in governments around the world are traditional they're much older people but more importantly that they' forgotten what it was like to be youthful to be young absolutely it seems like a long time ago to me I don't know if we're around the same age Charles but uh I am distinctly older than you distinctly older well you wear it well you wear it well but yeah I think we forget I think we do forget and but you can can kind of reach back right and remember what that impatience was like I think that's what this particular movement is doing reminding us yes clearly loudly because part of why it is the way it is is because parents are supporting it they may not have agreed you see one forgets that these young people live in Societies in communities and in homes and in families yeah and because they are young and they have been they watch more than they talk and so they learn more than you realize right if the parents struggle they know if they have difficulties at home they understand they may not talk about it but they understand now because of the population that we have and the numbers that we have in our family setup they are likely to have siblings and if they don't they're likely to have friends of the same age with whom they can compare notes this is a manifestation of something in my mind that has been happening brewing for a long time long time this generation people say are the generation who burned schools we had a period of time in this country where schools were being burnt they were sending us a message then we didn't listen well you used a verb earlier I'm just going to pick you up on that you talked about governments managing youth if governments try to manage youth they're going to fail right what they have to work out how to do is to how you engage with youth and that's a different challenge now um and I think that that's a challenge as I say that everybody is facing but look at the problems that we have in the world problem of climate change problem of conflict the problem of of disease and pandemics like covid it's interesting by the way they all begin with C don't they you know conflict climate Co Capital the cost of borrowing um those are the four big problems that everybody is facing around the world the cost of living five um youth are the ones who are going to provide the solutions to that my generation hasn't managed to Y your generation has contributed Our Generation has contributed yeah I say contributed because as you speaking I was thinking what is it that makes older people stoic what is it that makes them traditional is going to be speaking up for the elderly here yes I am I am I am I am I am and elderly includes those who have won putot in the grave the um yes I do the the experience that the older people like myself have had transcending our youth to now old age the thing that we look at is we have been through these things yes you see now that is the Mantra and so traditionally because we have you ought to listen but then you see there in lies the problem this is the information age age yes has experience but knowledge is far more available far more easy to acquire and far more easy to disperse than any time in the history of mankind that's the difference this time isn't it and again um the genz have mastered using these online tools to organize right um and to produce um this articulated set of demand so that gives us that's why I think this is a moment of opportunity that we haven't had before where it actually becomes possible to engage large numbers of young people at scale or large numbers of old people right so this is also part of the point we can't leave this to be just a conversation for the Youth and just the youth that are online so we have to remember how many youth around Kenya don't have smartphones aren't able to afford to be online in the way that you know if you're going to be Tik Tok or right so how do we engage them but also other parts of of uh the the um of society and the the elderly being one in my part of the world you're right I mean the population increases declining right so then it becomes about the elderly as well you grew up in a time when the telephone a public telephone was a booth people could walk indeed well yes but you see I courted my wife by fax machine nobody knows what that is anymore I thought you said you quarted your wife quartered no I'm undrawn and quartered I hope not no can imagine how public that was sing a fox to your girlfriend hey baby but there are all these people you see the the sense of community mitigates against this idea that not everyone has a phone you don't need to have a phone mhm one person a group of 10 has a smartphone you all have a smartphone y yes I want to I think this is also very interesting because the level of Education that we're also seeing that's taking place with a movement like this is phenomenal that there are people who have said that they're going to take their time to break down some of these things um for people's understanding and I think it's being filtered down for folks to actually understand we saw the finance bill being put into different languages just three extraordinary and uh we saw people breaking it down into language that is used today it colloquial call it whatever you want to call it but it was broken down for people to understand it's the ABCs of the finance bill and we saw that happening for example there's also an education of external factors that play in internal politics and governance that usually leaders of Nations hide whether it's International organizations who play into a government's internal politics and those now were being brought out to the fall and I think it comes to a Time whereby also the pull on an educated young people it's not people who are ignorant no no on an educated youth who are saying you know what we are very aware of what's Happening we're not going to allow business as usual and there has also been the question of is it protests then that we're going to allow this Renaissance that we've seen today would there be another way I personally think that it's one of the best ways but would there be another way I think bringing in of I think there's a complimentary way uh do um so protest always has to be there H always has to be an option anywhere in the world um and the Constitution recognizes that right that's and you've got an amazing Constitution here in ctia you have all of the tools right we just need to live it um but I think that there is another way um or a complimentary way so I'm not ruling out protest but that becomes the next option right but what you want if you're really going to reinvent governance what you're going to do is invent a mechanism for permanent ongoing routine engagement with large sectors of the population youth certainly but other other sectors too and what could that look like well the online um I think is a real a real opportunity for that I don't necessarily think with all the respect I have for what's been done on X and Tik Tok those are great space for energy amplification getting everybody riled up get getting everybody mobilized but there are actually other online tools and these have been used in that small number of examples I started to allude to cities that have looked at participatory budget making for example the Kenyan Constitution by the way says that's how you should do budget making here too there should be Public public participation it's in the Constitution so how do you make that real there are online tools that are better than X or Tik Tok for having a debate that we call deliberative where you have you know tens or hundreds of thousands of people engaging and then you move towards a consensus right so I could imagine a kind of an ongoing mode of governance in Kenya I would love to see Kenya model this where well let me give you the analog version The Analog version is called Switzerland right everybody knows that in Switzerland almost everything like the size of the the the height that the hedges are in your garden public participation it's public participation goes all the way down to the Village level right imagine a 21st century version of that in a country the size of Kenya right 60 million people engaging online um at the level of The Village on the mundane matters on the mundane matters of the day right and arriving deliberatively at consensus I think Kenya could do it I think you've got an educated population I think you've got that my God you've got an Engaged population I've never a population like Kenya for engagement you've got uh this Tech savey population a tech savey population you've got the the the the the internet penetration you've got a constitution that says you should do it yeah why not just do it and teach the world how that can be done we are hosting Dr Steven Jackson he is the United Nations resident coordinator in Kenya before we take the break stepen this is where you tell us who is the UN resident coordinator what's your job he's an Irish struggling to do his best for Kenya uh but it's my job to bring together the energies and the expertise of 25 different United Nations agencies that alphabet soup of everything from the food and agriculture organization all the way to the World Health Organization all working for Kenya so what does that mean we try to bring our expertise together so that it isn't just you know the agriculturalists working on agriculture and the health people working on health and the tech people working on Tech but we and bring it together in a way that actually supports the government and people to move ahead ah so you see at the head of the table for all those un agencies the the first amongst equals at the head of the table yes okay you're going to get me in big trouble with my colleagues now City actually you say it is Chang it has changed the one thing it has changed and which is irrevocable in this country it has brought in accountability something that we haven't had for decades members of parliament politicians buding and otherwise those who are currently in seats know they are being watched and they're now going to be held accountable but let me now have a little accountability question for the UN I am delighted happy that we are receiving assistance and I'm happy that the UN acknowledges that they can learn something from this country but why would the UN take the time bother and money to want to help Kenya well first because it's our job that's what we're asked to do we're asked to work here to support Kenya's people Kenya's government to serve its people um so that's the first point it's my job uh but the second is because I devoutly believe in it that point about accountability Charles that's that's the fundamental of democracy right accountability anywhere in the world right so it would be in our interests to help you Kenya to try and perfect that I think you're right that this uh protest movement is the beginning of that but this isn't um it isn't a finished thing no democracy is ever a finished thing by the way and it would be a matter of immense Pride I think for us as the United Nations to help with that if we can and if Kenya wants that help but then there's a third reason and that's Eric alluded to in in his uh little Spiel just as we came back from the break there which is how Kenya can furnish an example for the world and the UN is also about that because we're about trying to promote the sharing of best practice right we already talked and do you said this is this is sort of unprecedented right this is a problem that everybody's facing a challenge that everybody's facing how do we renew democracy because democracy is in trouble in many parts of the world certainly certainly on my continent how do you renew it this would be a way this would be a way you'd do it and so then that would be another reason why the UN would want to help because we would want to be part of helping um consolidate a success that the world can learn from and I'll just say one final thing about that um I know it probably sounds a little bit abstract it sounds like yeah yeah yeah the UN always does that right but the Secretary General of the United Nations is calling a summit in New York in September and it's called the summit of the future so the clue is in the title it's a summit about what happens next and it's really looking at all of these Global challenges that we have and one of them that he keeps talking about Antonio gues he keeps saying the social contract is broken so he means the the contract the agreement the the effective deal between governments and the peoples they're supposed to serve those that contract is broken around the world so if we could be part of in Kenya showing how you renew you make that social contract new again my God that would be a proud moment H what would it look like um in terms of um how a body like the United Nations would come into this without usurping using the power that rests in a movement like this because we can already see in my home Nigeria protests and demonstrations against the uh the government have already been slated for later next month and this is as a direct result of what has happened in Kenya to say that um the power of the or the potency of something like this will then not be taken uh by a body like the United Nations for example without providing just support but by saying well how about we take this over for you and say how do you avoid such my mind it's a danger it is a danger it's a risk and we have to avoid doing that we cannot come in as we would say in Ireland with our 10 League Boots on and stomp all over this thing um it's one of the reasons I came on the show if I can be honest with you because I wanted to learn from you learn from your listeners how we could avoid doing that we have to offer support where it's wanted not where it isn't but I think what we can do Eric you alluded to this we can look at the small but growing number of examples of how this is being done in other places around the world there parts of Latin America that have used online fora for doing what we call prior consultation around a big let's say it's a big infrastructure project or a big extractives a big mine or something like that that's going to be very controversial right you use online tools to engage the population to try and find out you know the parameters of what's possible what's desirable um my own country Ireland has had really um uh interesting experience with what we call Citizens fora um forums of of citizens that engage around a public policy question about a piece of Reform or whatever um and they're chaired independently they collect the views of the populace they kind of sift them and simmer them and and then present them to government and government you know takes them or doesn't take them um in Asia uh there's been really different places um some cities some um some larger polities that have experimented with using online tools to do things like budget making uh to look at tax policy to look at um even government agendas I think with all due deference to the movement the movement says very loudly right now we're not interested in dialogue yeah told you what we think we told you what we expect we want action that's a very legitimate thing right now six months a year from now there'll be new issues right because Society moves on um back to your question do does that mean people have to take to the streets every time if they need to but hopefully we could actually come up with a mechanism a new way of doing a new way of doing governance so going to the streets essentially what we're saying is a catalyst or it's a trigger towards other things that can happen later in terms of Di terms of dialogue participation a national conversation is there anywhere where we can say that this has happened you know where it started with the galvanization and mobilization for a protest of an issue that issue was addressed and then that movement continued and it brought about greater accountability greater participation greater awareness in the selection of government and then governments that were initially very rigid now becoming more engaging with the protesters yes examples like that there are examples like that for there are a small number of them um at this point you look around the world um France went through um you remember the jileon the the the guys wearing the yellow jackets right so there was actually a real soul searching after that and uh and then um uh experiments with ways of engaging um uh people Switzerland as I've said but it's it's not exclusively Western Europe as I've mentioned I mean particularly in Asia where the internet literacy is so high like it is here in Kenya I think there some very good examples there it tends to be so far though at the level of cities y cities have done this very well um when you mentioned Asia for example I think of Thailand Thailand we saw those movements the organizations people pouring into the streets trying to change the political order but they were removing one family from power and installing another family power in Sri Lanka we've seen recently you've seen what happened in Sri Lanka people have done this Taiwan City as you mentioned where there was a movement like this um and you know they were raising issues but then thereafter it just seems to get back into the old business as usual yes yeah is that how can we all work together to seeing that this movement goes beyond this goes beyond because what we're seeing now um just to to give an example is what we're seeing now is a government that is reluctantly responding and it's you know it's not interested in really really responding so you'll try and and and brand this thing and say you know these are people who've been you know there there's somebody who's behind them they they're not leader got a leader there are other interests that are to play here and then buy and by okay so yeah we are listening to you but you know you guys are not getting it you you you just don't understand the implication for example of not having 365 billion Shillings extra to spend in the next year and what that would mean there's it's responding but it's slow so the fear is once say you wanted a me to Rea for the cabinet I've done that uh you wanted me to sign the IC Bill I'm signing it what El what are you asking for now the next things you know are systemic and they have to happen over time they can't happen immediately correct and then people Tred into just things and Status Quo remains status quo is the enemy here yeah and Status Quo is government is status quo a bureaucracy like the United Nations is status quo but I consider you you you're absolutely right because people want to go back to the calm and quiet they don't want people walking on the street protesting hindering them from going where they want to go we're asking too many questions yes and also there's the fear that it might turn nasty and who knows their wind screen may be smashed why because that is what we've been accustomed to unfortunately change doesn't come in that sort of clothing unfortunately it very rarely does the mistake the genes would make is to seed power it would be a colossal mistake because that constant reminder of what they are doing or what they stand for is fighting against a tide that has been there for the longest possible time and with every presidential election has been entrenched M and that's why we have what to call a political class okay they also are not willing to seed power so it's in their own self-interest when they realize that their interest is threatened then they are they'll be more inclined towards seeding and giving the appearance that they're changing but in response to what we see the president doing there's no clear assign that he has missed the point completely because tokenism is not what is called for now it's an insult if that is what you are doing because the opportunity to actually be the person who's brought about change will be missed M now we've seen missed opportunities in this country and I think the Gen know this why I'm saying they know this they have their own agenda they are not allowing someone to set this agenda for them now we complain and say oh no now now they're going to be on thicker Road there be a problem actually yes there'll be an inconvenience that is certain there may even be a few of them a few do element they definitely they will be there as I say dogs come with fleas okay but the point that you make that I want to emphasize on is this this opportunity that has presented itself are we trusting the genes to be able to walk with it and for us to follow because I hear the idea of working with them understanding that I also get as old the person I get but the question I'm asking is are we willing to follow them are we willing to seed yes are we also will to guys tell us what to do are they willing to take up that challenge that is an even better question in the longer term because you see if you have this conversation now you know yes the the the conversation is being led and spearheaded by this younger generation and is is what they're saying are they willing to actually continue and provide leadership Beyond this and getting into even providing and shaping government into of the future and shaping what our country then looks like into the future yes without responding or reacting to somebody else you're both identifying a challenge that is as new as today today is Tuesday right it's a protest day and as old as time right institutions are very slow to adapt um and the question that I have is does this movement insist that it stays outside institutions or can it eventually agree to Breathe new life into institutions that's that's going to be the challenge the Gen Z won't be gen Z forever one day they'll be as old as we are right and there'll be a new generation with its demands that's so how do we use this moment how do we work together to make this moment a moment of actually profound change in how governance happens in Kenya and therefore providing this model for the world and I certainly don't and the United Nations I want to make that totally clear first of all we've no interest in being invited to a party where we're not welcome right so if if Kenya doesn't need our help with this that's that's fine I'd love to offer our help and I also um don't think our help would ever be about trying to set the agenda to whom are you offering the help yeah I was going to say Kenya if I can be as Pious and as broad as that so who are you engaging which instruments essentially you engage government yeah government which would be interesting because so we do of course work with and alongside government that's part of our job and so part of my job if there is an interest in this would be to say to gen Z to say to Broad Kenyon Society but certain to say to government look there are some examples of how the and there are tools out there that can be used to take a conversation that has been spontaneous energetic engaged and sustain it help it sustain and help it progress there are platforms that are better suited actually than x and uh and uh and Tik Tok that are a bit more deliberative um that will allow you to make this and I the word routine sounds like a criticism right we say it's routine you know it's boring but you want to make this routine you don't want to have to make it be you know every time there's a crisis uh you want this to become part of the muscle of how Kenya acts yeah there's always the question of helping and understanding what is needed and that only comes from asking and then there's always the issue of modeling to suit your interest cuz the UN has their interests now how do you marry the you an interest with ours we have to be attuned to what the aspirations of the genz are and we have the advantage that that has been made very clear for now so these are the aspirations right now right so we have to listen to those and it's back to your question how do we avoid we in the UN we cannot come in we would not want to come in it wouldn't work who cares what we want it just it wouldn't work we'd be rejected out of hand if we tried to impose and that would be right it would be right to reject it right so I I as is probably clear I don't have a clear answer for you right now we're right at the beginning of this we're kind of old school in the un uh we've talked about listening to Youth for a long time but we haven't managed to do it did you say kind of s right yeah fair enough fair enough tou touche I mean just looking looking over over time I I I just read in history and history of governments and then looking at many would say that even governments that operated 20 years ago are in history right but is it possible whether it's a Renaissance of ideas is it possible to have uh New Movement or new ideas void of the instruments of government for example is it possible without structure we have a wave that has come I mean I look at all the ages that have come and gone but through those ages and through new ideas that were then being introduced and captured all of these were on the Bedrock of some kind of structure goodness that's a deep question I feel like I'm in you know a philosophy graduate school now but but I don't mean to make fun it's an important question I don't think so I think in the end no community can live with permanent crisis uh and you know we don't know what's coming the next day and we don't know what's coming the next day if you want to walk forward you have to have some kind of a plan um but I do think and this is the crucial point that this movement is teaching us a new way to plan right that's that's what's key for me so the movement does it seems to me point the way to a new form of structure right it's looser it's louder it's more energetic yep that's great y that's great I think that's really what I want to to say is I find that exciting I don't know sitting here on a Tuesday morning how you do that but I think Kenya already has some ideas it's already that moment that's right um many people may not realize this but the UN is supported by governments of course and governments means taxpayers money right so we basically run the UN so speak to the people of Kenya on one hand in about 30 seconds and then spend another 30 seconds speak to the government of Kenya what message would you pass people of Kenya help us reinvent the United Nations so we can help you do what it's m you've made clear you want to do right so help us work out the answer to to Do's question and to governments governments and the Secretary General is been very very clear about this he says you need to realize that you need to reinvent the social contract with your peoples or your history that's what he said to governments around the world and that's what the summit of the future is about reinvent re-energize the social contract or your history do they get what he means do you think governments are actually getting what Antonio gutes is saying I think they're starting to um we'll see in September like one one pillar if I've got time to say it one pillar of the summit of the future is to agree a set of global principles on how youth participate in governance thank you that's what these protests are about thank you for coming today thank you so much for having me what a great conversation we'll have you again soon Dr Steven Jackson is the United Nations resident coordinator in Kenya he's been our guest we've been looking at the genzi movement how this is shaping Kenya's future how this conversation can be sustained Beyond the current immediate demands of the government and also now taking them to demands for the people and how that can help shape the future of the world this is The Situation Room the only way to start your day