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Exploring the Filioque Debate
Nov 19, 2024
Lecture Notes on the Filioque Argument
Introduction
Recent resurgence of an argument against the filioque.
Critique by Ubie Petris against Michael Lofton, a nuanced YouTuber.
Discussion includes Orthodox and Catholic perspectives.
Background
Catholic authors avoid discussing Cappadocian Fathers, St. Cyril, St. Maximus.
Common Catholic argument: If Latin Fathers taught filioque, then it's true.
Orthodox typically concede Latin Fathers erred on filioque.
Orthodox Perspective
Orthodox emphasize Cappadocian supremacy in Trinitarian theology.
Argument against filioque based on differing teachings East vs. West.
Two major Orthodox responses:
Attack major premise (Latin Fathers' authority).
Attack minor premise (Latin Fathers' teaching).
Discussion on Latin Fathers
Latin Fathers’ teaching includes Augustine, Fulgentius on filioque.
Orthodox contend Latin Fathers didn’t teach Florentine filioque.
Praise for Latin Fathers in Constantinople & Orthodox liturgy.
The Letter to Marinus by Maximus the Confessor
Cited by Orthodox to avoid direct engagement with Latin Fathers.
Disagreement on interpretation of 'cause' in reference to the Spirit.
Implications for Orthodox if Latin Fathers taught the filioque:
Challenge to Orthodox interpretation.
Possible contradiction in Orthodox position.
Arguments in Favor of Latin Filioque
Analysis of pseudo-Athanasian Creed.
Argument for hypostatic procession in Latin tradition.
Early usage and acceptance of Athanasian Creed in the West.
Conclusion
Importance of directly engaging with texts, not relying on narratives.
Need for careful reading and exegesis of texts from Latin Fathers.
Emphasis on demanding rigorous textual analysis from apologists.
Key Takeaways
Latin Fathers, through careful reading, show alignment with Florentine filioque.
Orthodox narrative challenged by textual evidence.
Encouragement for deeper study and understanding of historical theological texts.
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