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فوائد وتوصيات فيتامين C للعناية بالبشرة

what's up everyone we're back I'm Dr sha Dr Maxfield welcome back to our Channel Dr Lee we talk about all things skincare and dermatology and this video we have mentioned for four years and is now finally here today we are going to finally be talking about vitamin C yes this is the video we have been waiting to make vitamin C I don't know which direction this is going to show up for you this is such a controversial ingredient but it's a hero ingredient but it's kind of unpopular now we're going to talk about all things vitamin C what it is what it does how to use it should you be using it you will be armed and equipped with knowledge by the time we are done we're also going to be talking about the different types of derivatives of vitamin C because there's not only one form of vitamin C and at the end we'll talk about some of our favorite products that have vitamin C in them so all things vitamin C is it worth the hype is it not worth the hype here we go here we go I think this is the perfect time that we're making the vitamin C video because I think vitamin C is at its Nader I think it's at the lowest point in popularity that it will ever be it was so hyped and now people are kind of tired of it and they're like oh it's irritating I can't tolerate it and some of that may be true but here's what makes vitamin C valuable it does a lot but what is vitamin C vitamin C is an essential vitamin that we cannot create ourselves we as human beings lack the enzyme to create this but interestingly our bodies are completely dependent on this vitamin and when we don't have it you get the tremendous amount of skin and mucosal changes that we see classically with scurvy your gums bleed your teeth fall out your skin falls apart what else nose bleeds hair the hair of course cork screw hairs I actually have seen these a few times actually during training so vitamin C deficiency still happens but it is essential for our body and our skin so when you look at the back of your package of vitamin C you're you're almost never going to see the ingredient vitamin C in that ingredient list usually you'll see some other ingredient which we're going to talk about later the different forms of vitamin C but the most commonly used type of vitamin C would be ascorbic acid so if you look at the back of your packaging and you see ascorbic acid that's basically what we're talking about or one of these other derivatives now when we talk about what does vitamin C do it it does a myriad of things and I don't know if I would consider it to be a jack of all trades master of none similar to ayomide I would argue it's probably that except it's probably a master in antioxidant capabilities that's probably like if it was good at one thing it's probably best at being an antioxidant so an antioxidant means that we're coming in with a lot of oxidative damage to the skin whether it's from sun exposure or whether it's from pollution we take a lot of oxidative damage to our skin and vitamin C is one of the most potent antioxidants so it's able to fight off some of that oxidative damage it also helps with photo aging by building up collagen and stabilizing collagen bundles it also helps to stop pigment production so it's really effective in people who get hyperpigmentation malasma or dark spots and so the whole constellation is aging skin this is like a foundational goat list of benefits when it comes to aging skin because it addresses most of the concerns Fine Lines texture wrinkles like dullness brightening your tone it's an essential co-actor for the enzyme that creates collagen for crying out loud it really does have a huge role cross the board in an aging skincare routine so in order to even produce collagen vitamin C is a necessary co-actor in that reaction so when we talk about replacing collagen without vitamin C you cannot do that you get vitamin C from other things such as your diet so when people always ask the question is like why do I need Vitamin C in my skin care if I can just take Vitamin C by mouth and you should be taking vitamin C by mouth you're going to get in a lot of fruits you're going to get a lot of vegetables you're also going to get it in a lot of your proteins that you're getting if you eat meat so it's like you're already getting vitamin C the question is what if I just take a super dose of vitamin C which was very popular when I was growing up uh vitamin C was like meant to be a cure all and a lot of people take it before they get sick or when they're sick and they hope that it's going to help a lot but they've actually done studies to show when you take Mega doses of Vitamin C into the body it doesn't actually go to the skin in any really meaningful way to make a big difference yes topically applied vitamin C is actually going to be preferred in order to get the the vitamin C that you need into the skin and this is a common theme with a lot of um bioactive vitamins and such because our oral intake does have limitations in that it goes throughout the rest of your body there's absorption issues then there's of course the transport to the rest of your body which also needs this and then you have the topical application for vitamin C specifically you can get like super normal results super saturation directly on your skin that you cannot get physiologically otherwise I mean if you just imagine like let's say I'm going to drink drink a glass of water or I pour a glass of water on my hand which one is going to get more water it's the hand because the rest of it had to go elsewhere so you can get extra supernormal values of vitamin C in your skin when applied topically and that's why it still has value despite an adequate or healthy amount that you eat so now we talked about all the good things about vitamin C so we said it's controversial so clearly there are some downsides of vitamin C and there are downsides of vitamin C especially the pure form of vitamin C that osc corbic acid form of vitamin C now this is the most studied form of vitamin C and so most of the literature that you'll read is on Elis corbic acid vitamin C so one of the challenges is is that it's not lipid soluble why is that important is because our skin is actually made up of lipids and basically in between each skin cell is this lipid barrier a lot of times you hear the word ceramides and ceramides make up about 50% of this lipid barrier and since it's not able to be soluble in lipids it has a lot of difficulty even penetrating the skin in order for for a product to work on our collagen which is in our deeper dermis layers of the skin you actually need that product or ingredient to get down those layers and if it's not able to absorb in the skin then is it really going to be effective so that's problem number one the other problem is that unless it's at a certain pH it has trouble also absorbing into the skin because of the charge on it the third problem that we have is that that pH at which it needs to get into the skin is a low ph and so for a lot of people that causes irritation including me so for for a lot of people including me I get a lot of irritation with the classic form of vitamin C that we see in skin ptical products and we'll talk about other products that don't cause this problem with me right so vitamin C difficulty with absorption because of that it has a difficult time being active and to be active sometimes it's irritating which makes it a very finicky ingredient now here's the deal the knock is saying vitamin C is unstable most competent formulations and a lot of Brands go through Great Links to make sure the form ation works so just because it's a difficult ingredient to work with does not mean this difficult ingredient doesn't work did you track the words that was amazing that's fair so vitamin C alone has difficulty and so a lot of brands have stabilized it with other ingredients like vitamin E like fuic acid to stabilize those ingredients so that they're not only stable in packaging but they're also stable when you apply them to the skin and so the products do the work for you right right so they've done the work then you can choose to use it or not so here's where it gets fun um I'm I'm super passionate about vitamin C I love content with Nuance which is also why I love YouTube because you can actually talk about the details and the depth of a given topic and so vitamin C there are multiple types elsc corbic acid we classically talked about by far the most evidence-based by far the most studied and then we have these derivatives that were made to find solutions for the absorption stability and then try to make sure they're still effective we're not going to cover them all because there are a lot but we're going to highlight some of the ones you're probably going to see the first one we'll talk about I guess is sodium asoral phosphate on the back end you might know more of this than me I feel like this one's relatively inexpensive to work with because it is found in most of your budget friendly vitamin C's under $2 this is like the vitamin C of choice it can be effective and it's a more stable precursor of vitamin C that still does have some antioxidant properties there are some studies showing that it can be effective with similar benefits a common theme is going to it doesn't have nearly as many studies as the tried and true Elis corbic acid but I think it's a reasonable alternative to use especially if you're someone who doesn't have the budget for the more expensive classical forms so sodium escoro phosphate has a lot of similar benefits to pure lisc corbic acid so it's going to help with wrinkles it's going to help with pigment one of the interesting things the sodium escoro phosphate does that a lot of the other vitamin C doesn't do is that there's some studies that show that it may help with acne so this is Rabbit Trail I went down years ago uh I was looking for this study I found one brand I actually bookmark saved it and put it in my study folder which I have and it's like a branded study from like the maker of sodium scroll phosphate that helps acne there is another study though that is a randomized controlled trial it shows that it might be helpful with acne but I want to read to you the why because this is very important and I do not believe it's specific at all to this form of vitamin C they state that one it has a strong antimicrobial effect after hours on propon bacteria acnes okay sure I'm not sure that's unique to this one but also it prevents the UVA induced sebum oxidation up to 40% so this is something we don't talk about much in the acne World part of the reason acne presents and has is inflammatory is because of this oxidation of your sebum I was actually talking to this with another group of dermatologists recently and they proposed the same thing with their product and in my mind I was like this is the feature that is actually an endo for all antioxidants one of the ways you study the effectiveness of an antioxidant potential is by measuring its capacity to decrease oxidation of sebum and so if your antioxidant is effective it will probably decrease sebum oxidation which in theory all of them in my opinion could help with that portion of acne purely that oxidation of sebum step in the acne pathway so yes sap sodium scal phosphate might be helpful for acne I'm not entirely sold that it's a unique and distinct benefit next up let's talk about ethyl ascorbic acid or 30 ethyl ascorbic acid depending depending on which brand you buy this one is one of my personal favorites and I've enjoyed this one for a few years I don't think it gets the love that it needs so let's build it up and I don't think it's in many products which I've seen a couple come out this year with it and so I'm thrilled about that the reason I like it I think it's decently well studied there are studies showing that this has some comparable effect to Alis corbic acid clinically it may not be as strong in certain studies but it's comparable there are also studies showing that it has significant improvements in stability both being lipophilic you'll find this in your oily vitamin stuff which but but you'll also find it in your water-based vitamin C products it has like unique solubility properties and then also it has good antioxidant potential especially compared to some other forms of vitamin C's so really if you're looking at stability clinical end points I think across the board it is showing up on paper and I think over time and given more years and data it will continue to be a reliable vitamin C for your skin of all the derivatives of vitamin C that exist on the market this is probably the most studied and probably the most beneficial form so if you're somebody who doesn't tolerate pure alos corbic acid then probably the best option would be to go for this sodium 30 ethyl ascorbic acid or ethyl ascorbic acid as your other alternative now when we talk about derivatives of vitamin C all of them need to be able to get into the skin and then be converted into the pure form of vitamin C to be active because our body doesn't use these other forms of vitamin C so they in order for it to have the benefits of collagen building or pigment production inhibition you definitely need it to get into the skin and convert into that pure form of vitamin C so all of these need to be able to do that and 30 ethyl ascorbic acid has been shown to be able to convert into pure vitamin C at about a rate of over 80% which is really really good I I doubt that even 80% of pure vitamin C is getting into the skin at that level yeah very true and the anecdote behind the stability one of the things that just blew me out of the water with this is okay so you look at your vitamin C product we'll talk about this later um it can oxidize turn brown right I had a ascorbic acid product that was on my shelf for over two and a half oh my gosh it's actually been on there for like six years now but at about the 2year Mark I looked at this product and I was like what the heck it's still see-through two years just sitting on my shelf in direct light like just with my other skin care products that are for display and it was clear and it did eventually turn brown but I think the anecdote of that is that it is very stable and we actually have one here today it's over a year old uh and is also still extremely clear now is that a complete perfect marker of its efficacy no but it is a surrogate marker of how these can perform and how long they last another one that you'll probably encounter quite a bit is THD ascorbate uh this is again a stable form of vitamin C it's also a lipid soluble form of vitamin C so it's able to get into the skin but it's definitely less studied than 3o ethyl ascorbic acid and even sodium asoral phosphate and so it's the least studied of the three derivatives but it does show a lot of Promise in some of the studies whether it's anti-aging whether it's with pigment it does show some benefits to the skin so it's promising um but it's not been studied as much as some of the other ones I'm interested to see where time goes with this I do think it's going to be valuable I'm looking forward to the body of literature kind of backing up and supporting that my main knock is that really mostly at this point it hasn't really been studied alone and it's very dependent on coexisting antioxidants in the formulation to even function as an antioxidant so it needs a little help but it's a good serviceable vitamin C that you'll find and it's often touted as like a sensitive skincare option for your vitamin C not sure how true that is but it might live there long term the next one we'll cover is Magnesium asoral phosphate this is by far my least favorite and like I have objective reasons why uh it doesn't solve the absorption issue as well as some of the other Alternatives it's not that much better than your other charge molecule Al ascorbic acid and then also with the efficacy there are some nice studies that show like head-to-head activity of these different types and consistently Magnesium soral phosphate is at the bottom in terms of its effectiveness at inhibiting tyrosinate the pigment making enzyme and it's at the bottom in terms of its effect as an antioxidant so it's a consistent theme it underperforms I think across the board so if I'm looking for a product I skip this one now let's talk about the goat of vitamin C ingredients uh which is L ascorbic acid this is the pure form of vitamin C and A lot of times when people mention vitamin C they're talking about this form of vitamin C so super important when you're looking at the research a lot of times we're talking about the research on this particular ingredient now most of the research on Elis corbic acid vitamin C was pioneered by the founder of skin suitical Sheldon panel so a lot of the research that we're going to reiterate on it was done at that level so it's important to note that this was into the founding of the brand which is why the skin cudal C fuic is still considered to be the best vitamin C that's available over the counter to you some of the main findings in his research was that one like Dr Maxfield said alos corbic acid is unstable and it has difficulty penetrating into the skin and so he found in his studies that if you were to lower the ph below 3.5 as you got lower and lower the absorption of vitamin C into the skin got higher so when you're looking at Alis corbic acid vitamin C the Dogma that came out of that is that the pH needs to be lower than 3.5 for it to effectively absorb into the skin the second important thing that he found was that in order for it to be stable it needs to be put with other antioxidants like vitamin E and like fuic acid because it helps to replenish vitamin as well in the skin and that makes it much more effective and so when he did those things together a lot of the studies that came out showed that it helps with collagen helps with wrinkles has a powerful antioxidant benefits and can help with any sort of pigmentary changes these are the findings from those studies and that's why we look for vitamin C in this formulation now kind of Steven uh is a Creator on Instagram and he has a a really nuanced and good article on why some of this research done by Sheldon panel maybe not as reliable as we once hoped that it was um I'll link it below and you can kind of go through those nuances I don't have any other better research to go off so I still kind of rely on some of these studies that came out and I still as a grater reiterate some of these things because there's no other better studies on Elis corbic acid and so we kind of stick with those still to this day right and I think that's something is very very important to realize in the Cosmetic space none of the studies that have been done would stack up with Doctor clinical literature and we accept that so the reason I say that is because we through Medical School through residency we look at like Cardiology research right these are monstrous studies tens of thousands of people over 10 years and that's the body of evidence you have in cardiology you look at cosmetic studies and the threshold is something like 30 to 50 patients done over a period of 12 weeks and that's the clinical study and the invitro studies I think are even more personalized than individualized so there are always going to be flaws in all of our cosmetic literature and so we kind of have to accept that take what we can get from it and move forward and when new things come out like when a new study shows this is the better way we can work with that but it is going to be a common recurring theme that each study is going to have individual flaws in the Cosmetic space when I see 30 to 50 I'm like pretty good yeah pretty good honestly like 10 five I'm like ah you know that's tough to get statistical significance but 30 to 50 in a cosmetic study I'm actually pretty pretty overall happy with that believe it or not because most people don't even do that so that I think is is definitely a a a good start for Elis corbic acid concentration matters um and so you want to get into this sweet spot so sometimes I make it simple I say like between 10 and 20% but technically it's actually 8 to 20% um less than that and you're wondering about efficacy more than 20% it does not give you more benefits it just gives you more irritation so now before we talk about our favorite vitamin C products you may have seen a test online where people put iodine in a cup and it's all brown in that cup then they sprinkle in some vitamin C and they say oh look this one turned clear so it's clearly better than the one that it didn't turn clear on it's just super important to note that that has no relevance to the efficacy of that product its ability to absorb in the skin and its stability on the skin once it's on the skin so the test is completely irrelevant this is a Redux reaction that's occurring and it only happens when you use osc corbic acid the pure form of vitamin C because it's an active form of vitamin C that can act as an antioxidant which can perform that Redux reaction with iodine so when you use these derivative forms of vitamin C whether it's 3o ethyl ascorbic acid whether it's the uh sodium escoro phosphate or the THD ascorbate they're not going to react to that test because they're derivatives of vitamin C that need to be converted to vitamin C inside the skin in order to be effective now any form of pure vitamin C will turn that reaction clear that means that if I were to crush up a pill of a vitamin C tablet and mix it into a drink it would turn that into clear and that doesn't mean that it's good to put on the skin in fact I wouldn't put that on the skin um it just means that it's acting as an antioxidant it's a super fun thing to watch we've actually we've had Brands show this test to US during their product demonstration for their lisc corbic acid one of the questions I ask because they're like oh here's our product here's the competitor product look how good ours is I'm like What's the competitor product is that one need to be activated by our skin to work because if so it would never work in a Petri dish you know so these are like some specific Nuance things that I think make wonderful demonstrations like definitely gets the point across and how it helps across your body but there is a lot of nuance that like you can't always explain but there is a lot of nuance about why this works on a petri and this does not work in a Petri dish necessarily it's a good marketing trick uh and it's definitely visual so it's kind of fun to watch but from like your relevant standpoint I would not compare vitamin C products this way so how would you use vitamin C the great debate do you use it in the morning do you use it at night do you use it both times right so I'm a both or either person use it in the morning its primary role is perhaps that of an antioxidant antioxidants there are many studies showing I couple with your suncreen for better protection throughout the day both from the Sun and from the environment vitamin C wonderfully protects you from your environment altogether So that's its primary purpose its morning is its home in the evening my thought it's just a me thing if you were going to use it at night it's not going to be broken down as consistently from the Sun from the Environmental pollutants and therefore it's going to have its other functions maximized which include its ability for tone collagen texture wrinkles Etc therefore you can use it whenever you want and get a benefit it just might be a little bit distinct so I like it in the morning uh for a lot of the reasons that Dr Maxfield said the reason why I don't particularly use it at night is because there are so many other active ingredients in my night routine that are going to do a lot more for me overnight like my retinol that I wouldn't want to mix with my dedicated vitamin C serum that's the reason why I don't use it at night is Just cuz I have other goodies that I'm trying to include in my routine right and so that lends into the next step which just like what can you not mix with your vitamin C so what can't you mix with your vitamin C so it's an antioxidant so you don't want to mix any oxidants with it because those would essentially cancel each other out so benzil peroxide is an ingredient that does not mix well with vitamin C if you're using your vitamin C for its brightening and anti-pigment effects then you may not want to use it with copper because it could cancel out those benefits it's weird it's a paradoxical relationship with oxidation when you combine vitamin C and copper um we're just extrapolating it from other studies there's not enough data in the skincare world yet but one day perhaps otherwise like what do you want to not mix it with vitamin C can just be finicky like we mentioned so I always say especially with your lisc corbic acid products it's best to layer it let it set and then move on to anything else that might even be questionable now Dr sha mentioned at night should you use vitamin C with your retinol I don't believe there's a direct contraindication to this but when it comes to irritation you do want to minimize vitamin C and other irritating ingredients at the same time perhaps in the same routine depending on your skin this is the type of ingredient especially the pure Alis corbic acid form where you cleanse you wait for your skin to dry you apply the vitamin C you wait for that to dry and then you apply your other ingredients over it so it is something that I would want to apply to clean skin and I would want it to be the first thing after I cleanse and then throughout the day or whenever you use hypochlorous acid which you should be using this is one of my favorite alltime ingredients the most gental effective cleanser blah blah blah blah blah but it does through oxidative damage cleanse your skin so you don't want to use hypoc chloris acid and then vitamin C as well at the same time right vitamin C and hypochlorous acid cancel each other out so if you've made it this far through the video uh you're just as insane as we are if you are just joining us now let's talk about our favorite vitamin C products that are available on the market skin sual C fuic let's just start with it they did all the research people love it people swear by it my wife loves it uh she always buys more um I have a lot of Dermatology friends that also swear by it my skin does not react well to it I've said it a million times before it could be the pH it could be the concentration of the vitamin C that's in it it could be what else it's formulated with my skin does not deal well with it what's your experience been with C for ruic the favorite of everybody oh I like it see my skin tolerates it fine I like the Aesthetics it's like watery not super drippy not super greasy the body's good I love the bread smell of vitamin C now I think I just had like net positive experience that I've conditioned myself to enjoy that it's an acquired taste some people call it bread some people call it hot dog water some people hate the smell of this product um but for some people it's very irritating and it's not just me I actually have a lot of patients that will tell me that they bought the skin cutical vitamin C and I would say that it's a high percentage maybe like 30% of people don't react well maybe it's less than that I feel like it's probably less than that maybe it's just anecdotal my experience the other thing about this product I do believe is that people are more likely to stick with it over other products and I actually thought about this like when I was like pricing out my brand like cuz we try to keep the prices as low as possible and I thought to myself are people going to not want to use it as much because it's not expensive enough because this is like a thing like even my wife like I I I talked to her I'm like just cuz it's more expensive like doesn't mean that it's better like cuz I know how much these ingredients cost to formulate and she's she still is convinced in her mind that because the skin suitical vitamin C is more expensive than like the Timeless vitamin C that it must be better it must be there's a lot of psychology involved with your consistency in skincare I think another thing too is yeah let's say you spent what is it is it I think it's $200 close to $200 $180 now I think that's a big investment and so you're going to if you put that big investment forward it's going to hurt if you throw it away so I'll bet even if it does irritate you you're much more likely to try to push through this and use it than you would your a $20 product if that's the way you went so if you still really are interested in an expensive skincare product and you want to stick with skin sual because they created vitamin C I personally like the camaran CF product better it's got a 05% salicylic acid it's still got that ferulic acid in it and for me camarin is an incredible ingredient we probably don't give it enough cedents um there's a lot of uh evidence that it can be helpful for even melasma compared it to hydroquinone in some studies so camarin is an incredible ingredient to me my skin just tolerates this formula a lot better I don't know if it's the pH I don't know what's in it overall my skin just does a lot better than it does with the with the other vitamin C yeah I agree this one is outstanding and I think that's skin ptical vitamin C's across the board I like their flatin CF as well or the flutin vitamin C so great great great options this has denatured alcohol in it denatured alcohol turns out isn't really that drying for most people but it certainly can sting especially if you have sensitive skin yeah I love a good vitamin C serum so I'm just going to apply these as we go for the person who doesn't want to spend $200 they're like What's the dupe there are a lot of great CF versions there is no product that other brands have tried to recreate more than this product and you know why it's cuz skin suitical to their credit published a lot of data about their concentrations which makes the product easy to replicate that's like the vulnerability of products who are transparent you like get a great product you're like here's how how it works here's why it works here's what I did to make it work and then someone else like oh yeah thanks you know what the other reason why is because the profit margin on this product is absolutely astronomical these ingredients are free essentially to formulate with so you're basically having a product that costs less than a dollar to make that you could sell for 40 50 $60 even at $20 your profit margin is phenomenal on this product nice but they did the research which probably costed some money too I'm like trying to help them out because I have a lot of respect for brands that publish research okay so anyway here's a product I love as a dupe it's the Dermatology vitamin c e ferulic this one has Elis corbic acid as Vitamin E ferulic imagine that and it also has peptides it has ceramides it's an extremely functional formula it's fragrance free it tells you the pH uh the texture is amazing I love the texture of the C fuic I find it less tacky and I hate that this is actually an old product and oxidized a lot of it's actually used um because I wanted to apply this one it is terrific for $70 even though it's not inexpensive uh it's actually quite a bit less expensive uh if you want to try it we'll get a discount for you uh this is worth the try if you're looking for a vitamin C with that classic formulation if we keep this clip in that means that we found you a code and you can you can look below okay so in the world of dupes I will just hop into some other dupes that we have here so we have C FMA which is the drunk elephants vitamin C now this one needs to be actually mixed together so it comes separately and you have to mix the powder into the serum um which I find you know some people like to be chemists some people don't like to do it so if you want to like mix your own products then you can mix your own vitamin C product together with this product now the interesting thing about this particular formulation is that drunk elephant was sued by skin ptical for patent infringement so the formula was so close to skin ptical formula or maybe it was gaining so much traction that skin ptical actually ended up suing them over formula copying so um just important to note uh there and whether or not you would like to support that again this is not an inexpensive product this is probably still in that 60 to $80 range what's kind of nice about this is that you know you're getting exactly what you need and you know that it's stable from the time that you get it which is actually pretty cool because you don't know how long the other products have been sitting on the shelf with the cap on you kind of shake it this is how we shake Botox when we mix it together so the value is that you have these unstable ingredients that can break down and so this may stay stable longer the knock is that if you use your product it may not need to stay stable much longer than a month two months anyway the third thing is it doesn't quite match up with the products where you mix it per application so some products you mix with each application like it has two tubes and they mix together right before it goes onto your skin the benefit with that is that never has to stay together for a prolong period of time this still will probably be on your shelf at least for a month or two not to be distracting but I do want to try this and I'm just going to keep shaking it while we talk about the next one next up is the Polish Choice C15 booster now this formulation I've recommended several times in the past I'm a big fan of Polish Choice just in general I think that they make overall good products what's interesting thing about this one is that this is a product that I've recommended for a really long time again 15% vitamin C vitamin E and fuic acid and fragrance free it's very very very very similar to the skin cutical formulation but the interesting thing about this formulation it's got that bread smell that you would normally that's how you know it's that's how you know it's real so very very similar to the skin cutical formulation and below that 3.5% pH level the interesting thing about this one is that they've actually recently reformulated it to decrease the irritation from the product so a lot of people do experience irritation with the formula so they added ergine to the formula to make it less irritating and I've tried it on myself I actually find this version to be much more tolerable than other forms of pure Alis corbic acid put this on too I love the different aesthetic yeah nice full body little thicker serum love it and then do your magic snap the cap on turn it up nice this actually is a great texture too so a lot of work for the drink elephant vitamin C if it's fun for you great if it's prohibitive for your starting point just to forget it so next up before we move out of the alos corbic acid vitamin C category I just want to highlight two more products so number one is this because this is just an interesting version of L ascorbic acid these are the Neutrogena capsules now this is a fragrance-free form and it does use the ascorbic acid active form of vitamin C the nice thing about it is that it can be stabilized in these capsules and so you know it's single use you don't have to open the package it doesn't need to be exposed to air and the other interesting thing about this is that it's more of a lotion which you don't really see a lot of lisc corbic acid lotions I really like capsules for travel like if you're somebody who likes to travel light doesn't like to get your packages taken away this really is a nice form to carry with you so these are the Neutrogena 20% vitamin C capsules and it does have a little bit of like an oily texture to it and you see that with a lot of these um ascorbic acids that are not serums that is a nice texture it's a very soft cream and then last in the Alis corbic acid category is a product that I don't like this is the L Ro POS which you all know we love L Ro POS but that doesn't stop us from hating a product they create so what I don't like about this is one that there are so many good vitamin C products out there that there's no reason to settle in the vitamin C category the other reason why I don't like this product is that it's loaded with fragrance um and the fragrance is not particularly good and then on top of that you add in denatured alcohol for people who have sensitive skin so now you have a low PH product you have a notoriously unstable ingredient you have fragrance in the product and it's not particularly cheap either so this is probably one of my least favorite but but popular vitamin C products I was talking about this product at work and the nurses who love fragrance even they were like it's too strong like they they'll never turn down a fragrant product if this is too much for them I love L Ro P moisturizers cleansers sunscreens um but their serums a lot of times are a big Miss um even their new meazle Serum is is a Miss for me so far so the actual true last lisc corbic acid vitamin C because we don't have it with us which is why we forgot about it is the L'Oreal Paris Elis corbic acid vitamin C it also is fragrance but it gets a pass the reason though L'Oreal Paris gets a pass from me even from the legend himself here is that it's quite unique so it takes lcore acid it combines it with salicylic acid for it's not completely novel but a good formulation the formulation is exceptionally stable they broke the rules with the pH to create a very skin normal pH Elis corbic acid products that's still they L'Oreal has an insane R&D it's world class Premier and through that it's stable it's absorbed and it's functional with a lot of data behind each step so I'm a big fan of that one especially for someone with acne prone skin it would be the perfect vitamin C serum if it wasn't for the fragrance like it it was this close I still love it and and I think it's Unique even with fragrance and there are products that I think are unique that still have fragrance in them but it would have been perfect so just take that keep that in mind L'Oreal Paris now let's talk about the last two vitamin C's that we have here that are relatively unique so you have the one from matter of fact and this does have ascorbic acid it does have ferulic acid very limited ingredient list which you'll notice about this product it even has a little bit of Ura in it and I don't know what the concentration of Ura is and Ura is one of those ingredients where like if you're not going to mention the percent don't even mention the ingredient at all um Ura is critical to know the percent because it what it does at 10% versus what it does at 5% or 2% or 1% it's completely different if you want a product that's going to have benefits with Ura you need 10% I mean those are the facts so with this particular product matter of fact is it has one of the most interesting textures of all the products this is Alis corbic acid but it's not liquidy it's like it feels very oily and this is the propine dial yeah this is getting wiped off this is not making it to my face it's just a texture I don't enjoy it it's just too oily for me but if you have dry skin this is going to fall into the category similar to the Neutrogena one actually that it might sit well with you yeah a lot of people won't like this formula so it's just something to point out it is L ascorbic acid but it really has that oily texture to it and then the last one that we'll mention here is the medic K and this is the reason why we're going to mention it is because it is not the pure form of vitamin C it's a 30 ethyl ascorbic acid vitamin C which we mentioned we think it's probably one of the best forms of of vitamin C that's not pure form of vitamin C this one's interesting because it I've had it for over a year and it it has not oxidized not in the least bit so we'll have Dr Maxfield try it out this is their Super C fuic yeah so this is ethyl scorc acid ferulic Crystal Clear I'll put it on my hand I tried it on before we started shooting and it's another oil base one or it's at least got an oily aesthetic yeah it's actually a little bit lighter than the previous so this is again probably for someone with more dry skin but I love the stability of it I love the fact that this product has ethy scorpicus I have it at my house and I've used quite a bit of it it's nzz number five vitamin C serum it's got a pretty full ingredient list in terms of just Supporting Cast but what I really like it has a lot of different types of vitamin C like why would you want them all it's actually kind of unnecessary it's a little bit eccentric but the texture is also great so it has nicomide it has Al arbutin it has turmeric it has three Oyl scorc acid it has ascorbic acid scorable glucoside which we didn't talk about but I love the combination of vitamin C's is it necessary no but there's a reason like they each bring something a little bit unique texturally I love it I think the price point's good I've gone through a few bottles of it this year alone so that's one of my current favorite vitamin C's so that summarizes some of the vitamin C products we like some of the ones that we don't like we left so many off this list there's the Timeless vitamin C that's a 20% vitamin C with E and fuic acid at a much more affordable price point so the question is is Vitamin C worth the hype did we even recommend vitamin C after this obnoxiously long video that we just created about it in my opinion it's worth hype is it for you that is questionable because it may be too irritating maybe you've got other antioxidants you prefer but honestly the benefit list is undeniable and it's quite an extraordinary skincare ingredient so right now uh people aren't big fans of vitamin C so I would say it's appropriately hyped there are times where I feel like it's overhyped there's times where I feel like it's underhyped it's a good ingredient like we said earlier it does many different things for the right person I think skincare has become much more complex and so now we have options that can do a lot more but I think in the morning as an antioxidant as something that can help to build collagen vitamin C is really like nothing else and it does a lot for a lot of people so it can certainly be introduced into a morning routine and really have a lot of benefits for a lot of people it's not for everybody is an ingredient that I tell everybody you have to have this in your routine to have good skin it's certainly not that uh but it's something that does have benefits and for the right person it can make a big difference so I would say appropriately hyped okay appropriately hyped all right thank you all so much for tuning in to this like I said very long video uh hopefully you stuck with us through it um if you want to shop any of these links we'll put them below thank you all so much for tuning in please like comment and subscribe and we'll see you in the next video see you next time the other interesting thing about sodium escoro phosphate that what what's wrong your thought it would get better okay we think some of the some of the way that it was presented was pretty sound um so if you want to read his article that was long let me do that again it's pretty good though um all right one more time this is going kind of wow these videos are going to be hard to cut sorry Pat um okay okay now okay all right had like net positive experience that I've conditioned myself to enjoy that kind of like kind of like when you like gasoline smell who how when you blow you know blow out a match smell yeah I like that smell okay like that it's an acquired taste sure just like that I'm going to actually put this on my skin because my skin is thirsty I have thirsty skin right now I guess as they say no one says that um I think it's a thing thirsty skin care for thirsty skin it's my next video there's uh thirsty people yeah then you give them a drink what's the drink there we go beautiful I love I love the color of vitamin C too like this Amber make sure I'm like what there you go the perfect vitamin C for Focus the camera there we go we did it all right anyway I love a good vitamin C serum so I'm just going to apply these as we go for my thirsty thirsty skin I know what that means okay okay good good um all right next up so fragrance and all that that they put in it yeah I agree now uh the ual the actual the actual that is a lot uh propenal propenal I don't know how to I've said this before I don't talk to a lot of people in real life so I only know how to read things I don't know how to say them um so this is propane um okay all right okay all right wow okay um all right all right all right let okay um