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Real Estate Bird Dogging Summary

Sep 2, 2025

Summary

  • The session introduced the concept of "bird dogging" in real estate investment, focusing on its simplicity, the role it plays between buyers and wholesalers, and its suitability for beginners.
  • Key distinctions between bird dogs, wholesalers, and buyers were covered, and practical steps for getting started, selecting buyers, and understanding the flow of deals and compensation were discussed.
  • An interview with investor Daniel highlighted best practices for bird dogging and building relationships with buyers, emphasizing the importance of consistency and specificity.
  • Open Q&A addressed common misconceptions, pitfalls, and tips for virtual participation, sourcing buyers, and maintaining value as a bird dog.

Action Items

  • Tomorrow – Pace: Introduce another buyer and a supplier during the next session (5 PM PST).
  • Tomorrow – Pace: Provide a JV agreement template for bird dogging to attendees.
  • Thursday – Pace: Share a curated buyer list with the group.
  • Tomorrow – All Attendees: Comment on today’s provided YouTube video with the key lesson learned for a chance at a prize.
  • Ongoing – Attendees: Begin by finding one buyer, stay focused on that buyer until the first deal is completed, and repeatedly follow up.
  • Ongoing – Attendees: For those in the Sub2 community, access and review the owners club buy boxes for potential buyers interested in bird dogging.

Overview: What Is Bird Dogging & Why It Matters

  • Bird dogging is a simple entry-level real estate investment strategy focused on matching property opportunities with buyers seeking specific deal criteria (the 'buy box').
  • Bird dogs act as connectors, identifying and forwarding potential deals (often under contract by wholesalers) to vetted buyers in exchange for a finder's fee when deals close.
  • This role is distinct from wholesaling, which requires negotiation, marketing spend, sales skills, and deeper involvement in deal structure.

The Roles: Seller, Agent, Wholesaler, Buyer, Bird Dog

  • Every real estate transaction starts with a seller, often motivated by distress (e.g., foreclosure, divorce).
  • Wholesalers acquire properties under contract, typically below market value, and assign those contracts to buyers for a fee.
  • Buyers (flippers, landlords, or other investors) execute strategies like flipping or holding properties.
  • Bird dogs facilitate by supplying buyers with relevant leads or contracts from wholesalers, especially in markets or asset types the buyer prefers.
  • Key distinction: Bird dogs work for/with a single buyer at a time to minimize confusion and maximize learning.

Getting Started as a Bird Dog

  • Start by selecting one active buyer with a clearly defined buy box.
  • Remain focused on serving that buyer until a deal closes; only then consider engaging additional buyers.
  • If a buyer stops communicating, proactively move on to another, but avoid complaints—persistence and professionalism are key.
  • Agreement/JV paperwork is optional and may slow down the process; trust and relationship-building are emphasized in the community.

Finding and Approaching Buyers

  • Use tools like Deal Sauce, public records, Facebook groups, or community resources to identify active buyers, especially those doing 4-12 deals per year.
  • Sub2 community members have access to curated and active buyer lists with detailed buy boxes.
  • When outside the community, verify buyers through research and by pulling public records on recent transactions.
  • Focus on buyers with frequent deal flow in asset classes with the most transaction volume (e.g., single-family, land) for proof of concept and simplicity.

Activities & Best Practices for Bird Dogs

  • Main activity: Copy/paste property details from wholesalers/suppliers to buyers; do not overcomplicate or attempt to negotiate.
  • Include all relevant deal information and respond promptly when buyers request more data (e.g., mortgage statements, CC&Rs).
  • Avoid simply forwarding links to platforms like InvestorLift—download and repackage the information in your own messages to ensure you remain part of the deal.
  • Maintain specificity and consistency in communication; successful bird dogs are those who repeatedly follow up and know their buyer’s needs in detail.

Common Issues & Precautions

  • Bird dogging can be performed virtually from any country as long as time zones are managed and deals target U.S. markets.
  • The risk exists that, after a deal closes, buyers may bypass bird dogs for future deals with the same supplier; mitigate by continuing to add value and sourcing new suppliers.
  • Use official channels/sub2 support to verify community member status before engaging in business, especially through Facebook or free public groups.
  • Android/iPhone texting: Most seasoned investors prefer iPhone (blue bubbles) for ease of verification and communication.

Differences: Bird Dog vs. Dispo (Disposition)

  • Dispo: Blasting deals to large buyer lists indiscriminately, hoping for a match (more advanced, less relationship-driven).
  • Bird Dogging: Targeted deal-finding and relationship-building for a single, engaged buyer who provides ongoing feedback and training.

Interview with Buyer Daniel (Case Study)

  • Highlighted buy box: Single-family homes for co-living in Ohio (Akron, Canton, Cleveland) with an affordability focus.
  • Daniel and his partner grew their portfolio rapidly using bird dogs for lead generation and prefer working with individuals who are consistent and specific in their outreach.
  • Noted that promptly bringing a well-aligned address or opportunity (even just one) can result in compensation.

Decisions

  • Bird dogs should focus on a single buyer until their first deal closes — To avoid confusion, overwhelm, and ensure actionable, targeted learning.
  • Do not use InvestorLift or public deal links for bird dogging — Only send copied/pasted details to preserve your role and compensation.

Open Questions / Follow-Ups

  • Will the JV agreement be distributed to all attendees tomorrow as planned?
  • Clarification for attendees on structuring payment/fee agreements when not using formal JV paperwork.
  • Details on tomorrow’s supplier guest and additional steps for non-Sub2 members to connect with buyers or suppliers safely.