director of admission at scad aka the savannah college of art and design and uh i'm so excited to be able to share a little bit about um scad with you this morning in partnership with uh madame borno and also we have a special guest um of the university today so just to give you a little idea the savannah college of art and design we have 40 plus programs in everything art and design and we are located in the united states in atlanta georgia and savannah georgia we also have online learning i know you're all thrilled about online options um but you know we've been doing it since 2003. so we kind of knew this brave new digital world was coming i'm excited that you know we're kind of here to meet a lot of you today in this format so today we're going to be talking about uh specifically some uh tips on portfolio preparation but before i get into that i wanted to let you know about a amazing scholarship opportunity that is uh coming to a deadline at the 15th of feb so you have about a little less than a week to get through this process but it's not too much work okay so this is called the scad challenge the scad challenge is a scholarship competition meant one work for judgment you should also submit uh your transcripts um this is open to what we call juniors and seniors in the united states so that's years 11 and 12 on american system and if you are in british system years 12 and 13 okay so the scad challenge is uh has three prizes four thousand three thousand and two thousand us dollars these scholarships can stack on top of what you might earn if you go through the admission process in terms of your academic and you know your full portfolio so if you're a junior you can be submitting already potentially earning some scholarship right for for your future admission so um we're going to see some examples of past winners of the scad challenge today and uh if you you know have any queries feel free to follow up with me i'm going to put my information in the chat and if there's anything left that uh let any stone left unturned then feel free to also speak with madame borno and just say hey uh can you uh help me meet that guy from scad and uh you know she will definitely help with that so i'm really pleased to be able to introduce will o'donnell today so will is the director of training and development at scad and he also works with our portfolio review team and will has two degrees from scad in sequential art and as well as design management so he has a lot of wisdom to share on creating your portfolio especially a portfolio for scad but these tips should be really applicable to a lot of what you guys will be going through um and without further ado thank you so much will thank you for that wonderful intro robert i really appreciate it um so uh wonderful to be here today to be able to speak with you all i had a great scout experience actually started did the pre-college program called rising star in my grade 11 year in the u.s schedule and fell in love with the university came back did my undergraduate degree and liked it so much that after a career in teaching and comics i decided to come back again and be a part of it to get my masters so i'm very pleased and privileged and honored to be here with you all today we're going to talk about your portfolio the portfolio is something that is not required for admission to scout but it is for scholarship and a considerable amount of scholarship so this will be able to help you in preparing your portfolio for scad but it also these are great techniques and tips to apply to any type of of art and as we all know a portfolio is not something that just ends when you go to college uh you continue to edit and create and you know kind of grow your portfolio from from now until the end of your artistic career so when we look at a successful piece of work and and i'm going to look at it through the lens of the scad portfolio we have three main elements so if you think about it like a like a pie okay a circular pie um you know 25 or a quarter of that pie is gonna be the presentation uh it's the work is it thoughtfully prepared is it cropped um are is your work being shown in its best possible way um and so that's taking the time and respecting your work and respecting yourself enough to make sure that you're putting the best your best foot forward basically that other 25 of the pie and another quarter of it is is technique and these are the things that you've been learning when you've been studying art ever since you were little kids um you know this is the elements and principles of art things like uh line and value scale and composition things on the design side like emphasis and movement and and balance these are all important elements in the the building blocks of art so presentation and technique are fifty percent of that pie okay the other fifty percent of the pie is your creativity your creative voice you know art is an elevated form of communication how are you taking that your artwork and saying something telling a story uh you know putting your emotions out there and and you know communicating with the world um and that's the beauty of art and in that creativity there is also originality so you know don't just do a picture of spider-man that you pulled off the internet make your own superhero okay to give you just a a kind of a nerdy example since i'm a comic book guy and i put plagiarism in here this is something to actually avoid that is not a part of the pie so plagiarism is something that does happen you just have to be very careful if you take a resource from the internet and use it you know some people do like to copy pictures and things like that and that's okay not as creative or original but still allowed uh you want to give credit to the original artist so you know i'll talk about how to how to cite your work if you have you know if you've borrowed resources from another place now if you're inspired simply just putting in there like i'm inspired by van gogh that's the that's totally fine um we actually had a student that did a version of starry night with spaghetti and meatballs um which i thought was pretty original and pretty creative he didn't actually exactly copy starry night and used a very different and creative kind of take on van gogh's work so that is something that you can do and then just mention that i was inspired by van gogh okay so let's launch into this and i'm happy to show you some examples of some award-winning student work we have as robert mentioned we have this uh contest called the scad challenge where you can every quarter or you know for every year that you're a student here at scad raise your portfolio scholarship by those amounts so up to four thousand dollars per year which can be a pretty sizable amount after four years which is pretty exciting so i'll show you some of that work and make sure that you enter the scad challenge the deadline is coming up on february 15th so let's talk about the first piece of the pie that 25 piece this is preparation so um this is taking the time and care to put your portfolio in the best possible light to be reviewed what i tell students is bring together a collection of work that you would be proud to put in a gallery um you know so the work needs to be elevated even if it's you know your sketches and things like that make sure they're cropped properly don't see the binder rings and things like that whenever possible you should try to scan the pictures um you know i know that you may not may not all have the luxury of having a fedex kinkos or or an office max or a place where we can go and a print shop where we can go and get things scanned but if you do have that available to you you absolutely should take advantage of it the scanned image is is has much more resolution it allows us as reviewers to be able to zoom in or zoom out and see your brush strokes and your line work we want to use higher resolution photos hence the scanning if you can't scan it put the piece up especially if it's a 2d piece like a large painting put it up on the wall or you know have you know set up leaning against something but make sure you take the picture straight on and then if you have outside light sources they're at a 45 degree angle pointing towards the work and that'll help to reduce glare to reduce shadow um if you do have to wind up creating a photo shoot for your artwork um crop your images appropriately so this is a big thing that we see quite a bit um that you can absolutely avoid uh getting a lower score by you know making sure that your images are cropped all the way to the edge of the picture plane so if you look at me right now there's a big white wall behind me um you know and on the other side is a really messy office so i'm glad the camera's not turned around but if i was going to take a picture against that messy office side i would want to crop it all the way to the edge of the picture and i as a reviewer have seen you know the floor of people have people's houses the background of a messy art room and everything else that could have really been avoided by cropping properly make sure you rotate your images properly i don't want to have to kind of do this to look at your artwork it's not meant to be seen that way so you know we're in the the modern era now where we can crop things and and rotate them properly on our phones and slide room which is the program that we use to upload the work is very user friendly so if you have a problem with slide room you can just go through their support system to get things fixed provide a brief description this is very important i'll give you a great example i had a student from korea from seoul who produced a piece that was absolutely beautiful and it was kind of like the modern take on hokusai's wave inspired by hokasai but not the actual wave and when i looked at it initially it just looked like a really beautiful acrylic painting and then i looked a little bit closer and in the description it said please look under the foam in the wave and so i zoomed in and is actually sculpted the wave was actually sculpted with matte matte medium paste and then a tiny window was crafted inside the wave and a tiny person kind of looking out going like this and i was just my mind was blown it was amazing and i would have maybe not seen that if the student had to put that information into the comment box there in slide room so don't forget if you have any details that you really want us to focus on please let us know in that little comment box or any information that's that's important you don't want to write a novel in there you don't want to write a lot but you know a paragraph of information can go a long way there uh and last but not least when we talk about the i talked about the plagiarism please just cite any of the resources that you that you appropriate appropriate is like blatantly using something andy warhol is a great example he used picture other people's pictures and made them into his own paintings if you're going to do that you know if you're going to take something from google images and copy it you just want to make sure and cite the resource that you used okay and give credit to the original artist all right let's talk about another 25 piece of the pie this is technique now this is something you've been learning ever since you were very young in kindergarten when you first started to draw shapes you know all the way up to now where you're in these advanced classes maybe you're in an ib art class and you know you're learning about the the subtle nuances of building a portfolio and a collection so these are things like the elements and principles of art you can find them online everywhere when i was an art teacher working with secondary and primary students i was actually very versed within the the elements and principles of art so these are simple things like unique composition right now i'm in the middle of my composition in my little picture that you see me in but if i were to move more to the left and create a lot of negative space to the right that would create a little bit of interest a little bit unbalance in the picture plane so think about that as you're preparing your work you want to have a unique composition not something that's just basic and central something that you know is inspiring exciting something that helps to helps you enhance the picture okay color balance and value scale are also very important okay and yeah i just you know so you have to use your mind's eye to imagine me being in the middle but when when you use color balance and value scale and i'll show you in a few of these pieces later on um it actually you know it makes all the difference and it actually can create things like emphasis it can create movement in your piece it can create temperature um the rule of 75 25 again uh most artistic pieces are either 75 percent dark and 25 light in their color usage or their it's the reverse it's you know 75 percent light and 25 percent dark take a look at any of your pictures that you've produced in the past and they'll kind of fall into that category so it's sort of neat and it's a rule that came out in the renaissance a knowledge of perspective and anatomy it's not required but you know if you have done some life drawing and you know or you have drawn some buildings and you've learned about one point or two point perspective this can really help to enhance your work to make it believable there's another kind of perspective too that we also look for and that's aerial perspective so this is less about you know points and the horizon line and more about how things get lighter the farther they get away from us so when you think about aerial perspective i think about davinci's madonna of the rocks okay so in the foreground we have this beautiful you know madonna and baby and these really detailed rocks and craggy areas near the ocean and then the farther back we go the more misty and lighter it gets and that's because there are more and more air particles between us and things in front of us and that is a little something we call depth of field so you know as you see things farther and farther away some of you were in a place where you could see mountains in the distance and they look kind of blue or white that's actually because air particles hydrogen and oxygen particles carry a bluish tint to them so the farther away things seem the more blue that they seem that's the more particles of air that are between us and them and that's a branch of physics called optics which i can go on about for days but i won't you can come to scad and learn about it so the emphasis is also something that's really important in a piece and you can i'll show you several ways that you can create emphasis in your in your artwork as well so the other half of the pie so this is actually a bigger half so this is really important for getting a high score in your portfolio it's good that it's presented properly it's good that it is you know that is following the elements and principles the rules of art but even beyond that it needs to be creative it needs to be original you're not going to put pictures of of you know still life you know a bowl of fruit into your lifetime uh exhibition so always tell students like pretend like you've been given a gallery space at the louvre to put up your very best work from your career so far you wouldn't put your sketches and your you know just your class work and project work in there you would put your very very very best creative original artwork in there so that's something to think about when preparing a portfolio for scad now every university is different but for us we want to see only your very best work so each piece that that you produce is encouraged to be original it's encouraged to come from you as much as possible even if even if it's you know i really copied a picture but is that picture original did you take that picture and then draw it or then paint it so that's something to think about you want to keep it as original as possible and even if you are using pre-existing subject matter um like let's say i love wolverine i've done a 100 000 pictures of wolverine over the years um but i draw him in a way that's unique to me into to my style okay so try to try to stay true to your style stylized version of pre-existing characters if you choose to do that and then give credit to the creators of those characters um do not copy pre-existing work if if you don't have to um i know sometimes you've you know a majority of what you've done to this point has been using the grid and copying things verbatim but you know now you have those skills what are you going to do with them what are you going to say with your creative work that's what we're looking for so successful pieces they tell a story they have a narrative they have a purpose or they evoke an emotional response we want to make you feel something to make the viewer feel something and to connect or you know feelings are not just happy and oh i love this you know it may be revulsion like oh this is gross or oh i really don't like this um and that's still evoking a response which is making it a successful piece of artwork um so in the last uh last little point here is actually probably the most salient of all of these points is you know ask yourself especially if you're producing things like photography um does this picture evoke an an intellectual reaction which means does it make you think um and then also maybe does it tell a story then with the old saying in the in the us is a picture is worth a thousand words uh you know does this picture speak a thousand words or is it just the beach so you have to kind of ask yourself those questions okay so that's the pie now what i'm going to do is show you some examples of some award-winning artwork in these different categories and when you produce a visual art portfolio for us it's just one of a few categories that you have and i'll show you all the categories at the end here but the visual art portfolio could be drawing could be painting could be photography sculpture specifically could be fashion design or architecture it could be graphic design it's anything visual that you can see that is not animated or moving okay so that's a good definition to have before we go into this so this is a really great example of a brilliant brilliant digital illustration we're receiving more and more digital illustrations nowadays one of the first things that you notice is that these two characters compositionally are central so we needed the artist needed to do something to make it less boring because central compositions are the most common compositions so she actually added this golden disc behind the two boys and it has drawn emphasis so with the highest value contrast if you close your eyes and you open your eyes you see like you look at them first in the highest value contrast is their hats against that golden disc and so that's by design she's created emphasis in the piece for us to look a place for our eye to start and then once we look at that area we see some really really excellent characterization where these two boys are you know kind of looking off to the left and they're they're a little bit shocked or confused and so now i want to know what they're looking at so it's created intellectual interest in me so this is also something that's very important you look at the you know the really nice beautiful handling of the details of their fabric the great shading the great use of color to define depth and form if you were to zoom in really closely you could see that the shadows are actually cool colors and the highlights are warm colors so they have a knowledge of the of the color wheel and just a really excellent piece and also this is not from our time uh those of you who are familiar with you know baseball uh or maybe not in america this is back 40 years ago when i was a kid this is what we wore we were these these trucker caps and our blue jeans and a t-shirt instead of a full under armour baseball uniform so i think it's just interesting it's vintage it has a lot of good things going for it and it won the 2019 2d design challenge so we have a lot of different scat challenges and a lot of different fields now this was last year's winner it's completely different than the last piece so we're not just picking uh each piece based on it you know okay it looks like this i'm going to make it and i'm going to produce it to look just like this this is shannon lee and this is actually a little bit of multimedia here and this this person who i'm assuming is shannon is kind of unraveling and we have elements of you know paint here we have elements of origami different textures different you know media being used and she's sort of unraveling and and sort of kind of expressing what it's like to be a teenager sometimes i think a lot of us could probably relate to that but you can see how beautiful this is it's got the great 7525 that we talked about it's got the great use of media so much she's such an expert with the media that she can now be expressive with it now i mentioned you know still life are kind of boring or you know just your life drawing sketches aren't exactly uh exciting so when you choose subject matter for still life it could be very very interesting now selena zhang she came in second in 2019 and this was a still life now this is this kind of is scary and and maybe a little gross these are you know scientifically catalogued dead crows um you know and but look at the look at the beauty in it um we have this beautiful like line work we have this beautiful like contour shading you know great use of the media of charcoal she's used watercolor to stain the paper so even in this repulsion there is some beauty and there's some there's some excellent craftsmanship here so if you choose to do a bowl of fruit that's great you're going to be one of four million bowls of fruit that we'll see in a year but if you choose something that's truly unique that creates a reaction whether it's a loving warm reaction or a kind of a gross reaction here it's going to create a response and it's going to give the reviewer a chance to kind of pause and say like this is interesting and ask questions if you can make people ask questions then you've been successful with your artwork now photography some of you are photographers and that's also an acceptable form there are a lot of things that this has going right for it this picture and it's two it's two girls look like they're in sort of fancy dinner dress maybe going to the prom or something like that and they're standing in front of the headlights of a car and the only thing that's illumined is their silhouettes and an old gravel road and nothing else and everything is pitch black well this is designed to create some anxiety in the viewer why are these people on a abandoned road at the middle of the night why are they dressed up why are they you know where are they it's meant to kind of create some unease and it's also very beautiful and it's an exploration of texture of you know organic forms and you know man-made forms and so it's it's a very successful piece um and you know interesting and exciting and makes us ask questions so there's that intrigue that we talked about now this piece is more beautiful for a very simplistic way this is a beautiful texture piece so here we see this is an overhead shot of a canoe first of all without a drone or a very like a mountain climber with a camera it's going to be very hard to get the shot and so when you take pictures you select a piece of photography think about is this something that i could just walk up and see with my own eyes or is this something where i'd have to like scale a mountain or be a bird to see so be careful in your photography don't hurt yourself or anything but but definitely look for those shots that are not the norm something i couldn't just walk up and see the other beautiful thing is look really closely at the water you can see the beautiful ripples that the paddle is making the great natural texture of the flow of the of the current under the water so we kind of see that juxtaposition of of man-made with that steel canoe versus nature and it's just really really really perfect it's a nice 75-25 where the 75 is dark now the 25 is light so again it checks a lot of those boxes that we talked about this is another one again 75 25 this time it's warm and cool it's color temperature it's you know 75 cool 25 warm the emphasis clearly you know on the boy in the uh in the inner tube there um we've got a nice thing called repeating motif where we've got these different squares in the water and they are you know leading our eye to the point of emphasis as well as the color so again it's very clear it's very austere when you're selecting photography if you have photography that kind of matches this this sort of uh you know this sort of style where you know it's beautiful vibrant color and color contrast and then you're also having an interesting compositions he's kind of off to the right and not right in the center it really makes for a successful piece it makes us stop and look at it and ask questions now some of you are sculptors this is actually a metal chair created by a student who was a welder and it was inspired by roller coasters so you can kind of see in the background there the chair is not level um it's not it's actually set at a kind of an odd sort of angle so the person who sits in it is already going to kind of feel like their their gravity is compromised a little bit and then of course the uh the uh the tracks of the roller coaster which is makes up the back of the chair sort of break apart and kind of you know uh become more cubist towards the top there that's just a really interesting thing and then look at the way that it was filmed is this chair in a messy art room no is it in you know your your bedroom with all kinds of other stuff in the background to be distracting absolutely not this is professionally filmed so this is actually against a really muted backdrop with good lighting not overly bright so my eye isn't taken away from where it needs to be so that's a good thing to point out there too this is beowulf the viking champion i guess or old english champion and so beowulf in this particular picture the artist has taken the time to meticulously craft that braid and the the shoulder pad and all these different details so then i like to pick this piece to show you a way to lay out a slide in your portfolio we've got that one really epic low angle hero shot and then we've got some other like turn around so that we can see the the piece in the round if it was meant to be seen that way that's why i like to choose that one graphic design might be also something that you decide to follow and and enter in that particular category the reason why i love this color balance you know when you think about complementary colors on the color wheel blue and orange red and green purple violet i guess is what we're supposed to call it in yellow these are complementary colors so the artist has used a good balance of 75 25 complementary colors to make us feel happy and also in the way that they've organized and arranged everything graphic design so much of graphic design is organization and arrangement selecting the proper text or topography so this one was really successful and so was this one this one is very austere we've got that red and white contrast and this is actually a wood wood cutting festival that is in seattle that happens annually and if you look really closely seattle's you know the if you're not familiar it's a city in the us with the space needle which is a really giant tower that was built back in the 1960s so if you look at the skyline here and you see the space needle up about three quarters of the way towards the tip of the saw this that's the outline of the the city skyline of seattle so it's a very interesting visual solution that's what we're looking for for graphic design uh something that stands out and is different fashion may be your thing this is branding um you know at its finest this is a fashion line that a student created and then the way that she shows it every one of these pictures look like they go together look like they're all part of a similar photo shoot and is the kind of brand that the student is trying to portray um you know and you and in this next slide you'll see a completely different type of branding this is actually more of a portfolio that you may be accustomed to seeing this is a this is you lou she's from china um and this is you know a fashion portfolio that would be considered a professional fashion portfolio and what's so great about this and why it won was that we have this really beautiful illustrated lineup up here in the upper left you know of the croakies which is what we call the little models and then we have you know her draping exercises on the bottom her pattern making exercises there and then she's taken it to a professional level photo shoot where she's actually fabricated the garment so we see it go from 2d to 3d and being able to carry an idea across a lot of different medium or you know being able to carry an idea across you know painting and that is something that we feel is is really really successful so that's something that might help you be successful okay we're almost done um so just remember some of these helpful tips uh cropping make sure you're you know there's no shadows your cell phone reflections is something we see a lot make sure you crop out the binder rings if you do decide to use a piece that came out of your sketchbook um i see fingers and toes a lot um holding the pieces or maybe you're taking a picture in your your bare feet or you're in your if you're in sandals underneath and i can see your feet try to crop those out because you really again want to take your work seriously you want to you know show us that you can be professional because that's what people who graduate from scada are professional we have a 99 employment rate and 92 percent of our students are working in the creative fields in places like disney and samsung and all these amazing fortune 500 and 100 companies so we definitely want you to to show us that you're you're about being professional when you come to us um avoid cliches these are things that that we get too much of and so we're automatically going to kind of have um you know i'm not going to say we're going to give it a bad score but we're going to kind of you know compare it to millions of other versions of it okay so eyeballs is the number one thing if you have eyeballs in your portfolio you know or any kind of eye related artwork we get so much of it that if you haven't found a way to show eyes that is completely different i would recommend not using it phone type selfie pictures we're getting a lot of using adobe illustrator just creating vector art straight over pictures and calling it the digital illustration those get zeros basically because there's no real drawing talent required there flowers pets pictures of babies or engagement photos or things like that don't really fit within you know the fine art kind of portfolio sort of category and we get too much of it sunsets and beaches and gridded work just think is it something that we've never seen before as an original if you can ask yourself those two questions does it tell a story then it's something that probably should go in there um think about what you would put up in a gallery uh unfinished work we really discourage it but we understand and these in these times that the pandemic maybe you have artwork that is left at a at school or at your you know your tutor if you have an art tutor um or it's in a different location and you maybe can't access it so you know only you know kind of this year unfinished work is is something that we will tolerate a little bit more but just make sure that you know just finish the work if you have the available the ability to do so finish it maybe consider editing it out if it's not finished and don't plagiarize obviously as that last piece make sure you give credit where credit is due so this is our portfolio review process and it's important to note here that every college has a different portfolio review process so you apply which you log into scad and then you once you apply disk at scad dot edu forward slash apply and you would work with robert obviously would be your your advisor through this process um then you would go to scad.slideroom.com slide room's a third party website that helps us organize and host a portfolio you would create an account you would pick undergraduate 2021 as your category and then you would start to upload your work into your own portfolio so just pick your very best work as a reminder we receive the portfolio once you click submit we review it right now we're in the peak season for portfolios there's about 150 portfolios waiting for me after i finish this presentation and we send it out to the portfolio review board and we kind of go through it and you know we score it based on you know the merits that we talked about that pie remember the pie um and then we assign it to we let the advisor know what the scholarship is it is tagged to a scholarship uh it is added to your academic and achievement awards so academic we look at your grades if you're above a 3.0 cumulative gpa you're going to be eligible from academic scholarship your achievement scholarship is actually twofold so the big part of it is the portfolio which we just talked about but it's also a resume of accomplishment and resume is a fancy word a list of achievements basically anything positive that's happened in your last four years of your high school career you put that with your portfolio to get the maximum amount of scholarship eligible that you're eligible for um so your advisor will contact you they stay in touch with you throughout this whole process i like to say that they're your admission uh yoda or gandalf they're gonna guide you through everything and so they're amazing robert is one of those fabulous people these were the different portfolio types today we talked about visual art because over 80 percent of the portfolios we've received are visual art um you know and it's you know the very the most universally accepted portfolio but these are other types of portfolios that will accept as well you can submit visual and time-based media so time-based being film or animation or sound design we actually teach sound design here so you could put some of your artwork and then some of your movies or animations or music into a particular portfolio that's an option uh just a basic time-based media which is if you're a filmmaker you could put together a demo reel or a five-minute clip from one of your movies or one of your animations uh if you're a writer we actually accept writing everybody writes so 5 to 15 pages of any genre of writing and i mean any genre i've read research papers i've read poetry song lyrics scripts so many scripts and so everything is everything is an option there for writing performing arts you could do monologues or you can do a monologue with a vocal solo or a solo dance but it's important they have to be solo the monologue has to be you against the blank background like me and not you and like a play or something going on real time um and then last but not least we actually have one of the most dominant equestrian programs in the co in maybe in the world we won many national championships and so you may submit a professional equestrian writing portfolio perhaps you're you know an english style writer hunter jumper you can actually uh put that into your portfolio for scad that can be your portfolio for scat and you can join the team so this is the all-important screen i would like for you to take a picture take a screenshot if you're watching this on your ipad or your phone and put my email down because i am actually gonna allow you to reach out to me and we can set up a one-on-one appointment um or reach out to robert obviously as well and he will put you in touch with me i'd like to go through your portfolio slide by slide with you and help you to pick the best type of portfolio to submit to scad to help you have the best success i really appreciate you taking the time today to learn a little bit more about the portfolio process to learn about you know putting together visual art and what you know what what comprises good art and what are we looking for so with that i'd say thank you and i will turn it back over to robert well thank you so so much for imparting your wisdom and you know i hope that was useful for everyone here i just wanted to re-emphasize something that will said and also maybe translate something which is that i think a lot of students make a make a mistake honestly with the admission process the number one mistake students make is that they get everything together right they get everything ready quote-unquote and then they start the application process and this just totally wastes a lot of our resources that we have available to you one of which is will so i know many of you in the who are watching this may be at a british curriculum school and i know how those universities work so just to kind of explain how scad works a little bit we are happy to be relational and we are happy to get to know you and we are happy to give you some insight into what successful students have done in the past and so i really do encourage you to take advantage of will providing his contact and also myself providing my contact and um you know you can see behind me there's my base and my music this is my life right so when i went to college i picked out my schools and i met the base teacher that i was going to have at every school if i got in and i made sure to have a no if that was you know what is going on here and how can i be successful applying so that's what we're trying to do here is also help you you know show us your best cards and show us your best side so please take advantage of that and again um if you're watching this anywhere near the date that it's being recorded then you have a little less than one week to submit uh your application for the scad challenge and just the last detail about the scan challenge the first thing the scan challenge is going to require is a fresh application to scad so in the chat there you see scout.edu apply that is where the application is and this is what you guys there's no reason not to complete your application today because i'm even going to give you a promo code merry christmas happy birthday to me tomorrow's my birthday i'm turning 30 and so this is for thank you so anybody watching today this is your exclusive birthday present from me to you um and please let me know if there's anything i can assist with um and i'm going to oh thank you lena and so i'm going to pass it off len if you have any closing words thank you so much for having us this morning it's always a pleasure to be in the uae uh in the winter time i'm imagining the beautiful the beautiful weather you must be having this time of year hey robert it's amazing weather up until march so we're very very lucky we're also very lucky to have you and will support our students in putting together amazing portfolio that presentation was extremely comprehensive we really appreciate your time and it will certainly be very helpful for our students and you know you've showed the multifaceted ways that they can put together a very creative piece that's holistic and and sharing the tips of what you look for is awesome especially you know when you talked about the toes and the fingers right the reflection of the phone yeah that that that is not very well polished now is it um so we really really appreciate your time and the tips you've shared with us and the presentation thank you and um we look forward to our next session with you guys absolutely our please great to be here see you soon thank you robert you're the best thank you take care youtube bye bye bye everyone