Lecture on Nullifiers of Faith and Conditions

proceed alhamdulillah last lesson we got through the first line of Al and also we talked a lot about who is and a lot on specifically about the conditions and the preventives because those are very important points before you even start to learn about what the what the nullif are and of course we have to remember that as we mentioned last lesson that these nullifiers are only warnings to us they are from the Au to us so that we do not fall into them ourselves of course the nullifies because they are nullifies they are what we use to base our upon but it does not mean you use notifiers as a way to now seek out rather is something that you do because of a necessity meaning something has become aware of you and there's no chance for you to leave it because of course the Blessed Muslim is the one who Minds his own business you don't go out searching for you don't go out trying to fulfill every single condition if it comes to you that's one thing but there's an EA you know what I mean you don't uh seek out the cfor of other people because you make it hard upon yourself in if you can recite for us the first let me unmute you in Muhammed ABD [Music] so this is the first ntif and the first is as the shik says the first ascribing Partners in the worship of Allah and then he says that Allah the most high he says in ay 116 indeed Allah does not forgive that partners are prescribe to him however he forgives other than that for whoever he Wills now the author he first mentions this point in why because it is the most dangerous of them it is the one which Allah does not forgive and Allah also number 48 verily Allah forgives not that partner should be set up with him in worship and he also said that whoevers partn and worship with Allah then Allah has for forbidden Paradise with them and he also ay 36 but those who disbelieve for them will be the fire of Hell neither will it have a complete killing effect on them so that they die nor shall its torment be lightened for them thus do we require every disbeliever just thus do we requite every disbeliever now sh in is worshiping anything other than Allah and doing acts of worship to anyone other than him so this includes stuff like and Slaughter and taking oathes and seeking help from other than him in a face that only he is exclusive in now sh is of two types the first type of shik is Major and major sh is a type that takes one out of the religion of ISL Islam it is a type that separates the Believers from the disbelievers that they are the Muslim and the mus now the second type is minorik now minorik is a major sin which leads to sh it sets you on a path to shik and there's aith in the mus ofed Ahmed where the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is reported to have said that the thing I fear most for you is min and they said what is myuk and he said showing off for Allah will say on on the day when people are recompensed for their actions go to those for whom you were showing off with your deeds in the world and see what reward you will find with them meaning you did not do it for my sake but you did it for their sake so go to them the one who sake you did it for and get your reward and of course only Allah gives reward on now there is a way in which the scholars they differentiate major sh and minor shik when it comes Toth in the most case not in every case but in most cases when the word is used it come either comes with the definite article or not meaning or not or when it is with with the the definite article this typically refers to Ma and when it is just this refers to Minik but this is not always the case but it is in the majority as the SCH have led out now when Allah he says in the Quran he forgives why is less than that this means any any sin that does not constitute disbelief which means you know fornication adultery drinking alcohol stealing taking part in all these things are less than they are major sins they from but they are not ofur they are things that a Muslim does and say a Muslim so Allah he's he states that he will forgive the F but he will not forgive the mush the next Ayah is that verily Allah verily whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship then Allah has made Paradise forbidden upon them and the fire will be his abod there will be no help no helpers for the oppresses so in this in this Ayah we have the statement that fire Jenna becomes Haram for them it's forbidden and that they are prevent from entering and this is a proof for those who say that one could be a mush and enter a proof against them those who say that one can be a mus and J and why is this because if if J is har for the mush then it means that there's a condition for the gates to be enter to to be open for someone and the condition is what the condition for the gates to allow someone into Jenna is that is why even the ignorant mus right those who were ignorant they were perhaps they were deaf like as theith goes there are four people that have the excuse the one who was who came before the Advent of Islam meaning the one who was deaf and could not hear the one who was too old and could not understand and the one who was mentally insane and the children threw dirt at him right these were people who who will have an excuse for being ignorant normal Allah would tell them to jump into a fire meaning show me your obedience and jump into the fire those to obey Allah and they jump into the fire they will be cleansed of theik they will have shown upon their actions in their obedience and th they will be from the and they will go to because they have shown their even though in the they were upon and when Allah says there will be no helpers for the oppressors when Allah T mentions no helpers he means those who called upon others for intercession the false gods the false deities on that day when those people call out for the help of those intercessors the false gods the idols whatever their intercession is rejected however there is a type of intercession that is accepted on that day and that is an intercession of Muhammad sahu alai wasallam and this is the intercession which some Scholars called M mm meaning the a praiseworthy station as Allah T says in the Quran now this was not exactly the belief of the to slay that m is intercession indeed M will intercede for the but say that this is what we refer to as is incorrect rather that the more authentic opinion on what means is that Muhammad sahu Ali wasallam will be seated upon the upon the throne of Allah and this is found in for example where IM himself says that the narration where the student of when he says that Muhammad s alaihi wasallam will be seated upon the throne this narration it cannot be scrutinized from either a a chain point of view like the C of the of the narration nor from a point of M meaning the text but offer them a sound so and this is what a lot of the the the past including the early and the they affirmed right if if you read he also mentions M mm being Muhammad wasallam sitting on the throne now in terms of the granted intercession there is a a lengthy Hadith that talks about it and it is when the prophet Muhammad wasam he says in the Hadith that I will ask my lord for per for permission and he will give me permission and he will inspire me with words of Praise with which I will praise Him words that I do not know as of yet meaning he will know then but not now so I will praise him with these words of praise and I will prostrate before him he will say yeah Muhammad raise your head speak and intercession will be granted to you ask and you will be given intercede and your intercession will be accepted so Allah talks about this type of intercession being accepted so he will say and he will say Allah T go and bring forth anyone in whose heart there is Faith the way of a body grain so he will go and do that then he will come back and praise him with the words of praise and he will fall in prostration again and Allah T will say again yeah Muhammad raise your head speak and intercession will be granted to you ask and you will be given intercede and your intercession will be accepted and he will say again my my and Allah will say again go and bring forth everyone in whose heart there is a faith the way of a small ant or a piece of dust a speck of dust whichever you wish to interpret it as but the word means ant or Speck of dust or Mustard Seed so I will go and do that then I will come back and praise him with those words for praise and I will fall and prostrate before him and he will say yeah Muhammad raise your head speak and intercession will be granted to you ask and you will be given intercede and your intercession will be accepted he will say my my and he will say go and bring forth from the fire everyone in whose heart there is the Fai Faith the weight of the lightest lightest grain of the Mustard Seed so I will go and bring them forth now this is out for anyone who does not know how large a mustard seed is I do not know how to show you because it is horribly small I will try and attempt the mustard seed is about I know what I have a black spot on my hand maybe you can see it h right that black spot on my hand that's the size of a small a very large mustard seed right and that is it's gone now but it's tiny tiny and that's about the the largest side of mus com so imagine the smallest incredibly tiny anyone who has IM and of course the author then goes on to say m indeed in this is slaugh slaughtering for other than Allah such as a person slaughtering for a Jin or towards a grave now the reason he includes it is because during his time even now by the way there are people who slaugh Slaughter you know they do towards the gin or to towards the graves not exactly towards the grave but the inhabitants of the graves now this happens a lot in Pakistan still right I'm Pakistani I'm the of from Punjab it happens a lot in Pakistan where magicians they make deals with the Jin and then when it goes haywire and it goes not their way and the Gin start to threaten them and the Jin start to harm them the Jin say okay now if you don't do not want me to harm you you're going to sacrifice a chicken in my name so of course The Magicians they have they are scared out of their life now so they're going to be killed by the Jin or possessed by them so they have no choice to store a chicken for them and this is not accept accepted from them this is a type of shik and they are upon for this it is better for the Gin to kill that person than it is for them to slaughter for them because they put themselves into that position and even for those who do it willingly and they do it willingly right they they they slaughter for the Jin uh in order to gain protection from them or even in some Christian cultures right this is something that they haven't it's not it's not something that Muslims just made up they're taking it from other cultures such as the Christians and the Jews they have this person called Lilith uh she is some sort of demon in their in their theology or whatever Lilith and apparently Li Lilith in their theology kills children so they now they wear amulets and they they daughter cows for Lilith so lith does not harm their children they've taken it from that basically it's not something new that these so-called Muslims they are really mus but they call themselves Muslims have done when they slaughter for the J and in his of this he makes a very good point that the person or the object does not matter in this case meaning it doesn't matter if it was towards a gin or a grave or towards Lilith or whoever what matters is the action itself and he brings the narration that's found in the 10th chapter of the 10th chapter where there were two men going up along a path and they were said until you sacrifice something for us we will not let you go so the first person he says I have nothing I have nothing so he he has nothing and he says I cannot sacrifice but then uh in the end he gets a fly and he sacrifices a fight for that person so he pass upon the path but he when he dies later on he's on the fire the second person he says I will not sacrifice anything for you and thus he's killed and that person is in Jen now this is I don't believe it's AI of the Prophet wasam rather is a narration from one of the sahab so he offered a fly the first person and he enter into the hire it's in the 10th chapter of could you please continue with the second N I believe you can turn on your micophone so that is a second nullify and the second nullifier is what whoever sets up intermediaries between himself and Allah supplicating to them requesting intercession from them and relying upon them such a person has this believed by the agreement of the scholars so Muhammed he hasn't given any evidence here just because the evidence is so vast but we can give a couple of ayat for example Allah says in the Quran who take less than Allah as protectors saying we only worship them so they may bring us closer to Allah a distance and they worship other than Allah which cannot harm them nor benefit them saying these are our intercessors with Allah say are you going to inform Allah of something he does not know in the heavens or on the earth glorified and exalted is he above all the sh that they commit this in Zar 39 ay number three and Surah unus number 10 ay number 18 so there are a lot of people today that say you know we're only calling upon Muhammad or we're only calling upon Ali or Hussein or jalani as intercessors with Allah you know they only bring us closer to Allah they are they are a Rea to Allah for us you donkey you donkey Allah has already refuted you in the Quran have you not read it the said the same as you have you not read it Allah says that those people who do intercession like you guys they say what they are our inter with Allah or we only worship them so that they may bring us closer to a closer to Allah by a distance you call this was right but Allah Inus right he says glorified and exalted is he above all the that they commit whil you call this Allah he calls it there's no doubt upon this he named the action whilst you call it seeking intercession isik by the words of Allah himself this is something that happens amongst many of those who claim Islam as their religion of course it does right they say we are Muslims but we call upon Muhammad or we call we call upon Hussein orani or how they call him in Pakistan they call himk I'm sure you've all heard of this they call upon help me and some of them are even students in knowledge or massive massive Scholars right there are some people in the UK in many cities even the city I live in he say that is fine you can even call upon other K Jani you know he can help you out in his grave somehow he's supplicate Allah help me you know and he's to Allah himself Ya Allah do uh for forgive me for my sins and he's in his the grave and you want his help he's worried about himself so I want to talk about this thing itself and this is how shik first originated and this this is the type of shik that was the original shik where at the time of Adam Alam there was no shik there was no shik at the time of Adam alisam there nothing but what happened was slowly slowly with the with the people of this is when shik started where these people they were Pious people like ABD Jani big scholar right we love ABD Jani we don't worship him there were many many Pious people at the time ofam and they they passed away so the people say they said let's sit in Gatherings and remember them and then slly went to Let's uh make paintings on them and then went to let's make statue of them and then he said let's call upon them so they can so they can help us and the so the people became daies sh does not happen in one step it happens slowly the Shan Works in small steps so of course the first type of was also what led to and what these people are doing it is all both a and a it is both an innovation in the religion and an active sh the differing between us and theab is that we do not engage in shik right and we accept Muhammad as the messenger of Allah and that we accept Allah by himself and one of these main differences inik is what we do not do we do not do to other than Allah right the Christians they they call Upon Jesus and the Eastern Orthodox like for example I'm in Bulgaria they call upon Mary or who we callam and the Jews they call upon Ezra or the Jews they call upon whoever like magic is part of their their ideology anyway they call upon lith right with the amulet and whatever that is our difference with them we do not do so what these mus have done who claim to be Muslim is that they do exactly what the Christians and the Jews and the sabians and and what what they called exactly they have come back into their Innovation that they they reentered into doing the act of what the Christian and Jews do they've introduced it into the religion and the prophet Muhammad he he he prophesied this where he said you will follow the footsteps of those who came before you in I believe right and they then do you mean the Jews and the Christians he said no yes this who I mean you will follow their way and this is all there is for the second nullifier because it is incompass in the first as well can you continue with the Third so this is another fire in which a lot of people make mistakes they go into extremes so this is something I want to clarify in a bit more detail and okay so the third is that a person who does not consider the mus to be disbelievers or doubts in their belief or considers their ideology to be correct such a person has disbelieved by by consensus so I want to First make clear that this is also a type ofur and with each type of we have what condition and preventatives so the condition and preventives apply to this person who does not consider the mus to mus or doubts in their disbelief or consider ideology to be correct it applies to them they have conditions and preventive like any other person who falls into KU I want to make that very clear because a lot of people they they say that these person as the second they they doubt they are care that's incorrect they are also conditions and preventives so the first of this is a person who does not consider the Musik to be disbelievers that's the first stepe now this comes under a couple of rulings the first is the person who does not consider the to be disbeliever such as the Christian the Jews and the pagans and the sabians and they do not consider ABAB or to be inhabitants of the Hellfire right the person who doubt in the disbelief of the say that these people are Muslims the Christians can be Muslims the Jews can be Muslims right that they say that these people are Muslims or that they were going to Jenna in today age these people no doubt that they are upon this principle that they are also this Believers and you know for example abdah he's one of the one of the scholar of the he says in his that the Muslims have upon the of the person who does not believe to be disbelievers meaning we we affirm them to be now the second uh type that comes into this is a person who doesn't consider a ie an apostate a person who's previously Muslim to be a disbeliever now this has a lot of conditions this a lot a lot of types of self and a lot of people fall into extremism with it so we have to clarify it now the first is that if the kufur of the person IE the person who was a Muslim and then became an apostate the kufur is well known and a person says that I know this person commit kufur and I know that he's done this act and that I know there's no preventive preventing me from making upon him and I know that there's no condition that is left but yeah he's a Muslim and I do not make now this person is a disbeliever himself right because he has shown that he knows about the situation there's no he's not being forced to he's not he he affirms that all the condition are present and all the preventives are gone but yet he does not declare to be a disbeliever and he says this person is a Muslim then yeah this person has entered into disbel himself providing that the condition and preventives upon him are also established the second type is the person who does not consider the apostate to be an apostate because he says my brother I don't know the situation so I'm fearful of making the fear wrongly this person he he he has not F upon him he's a Believer he's correct upon it he's rather he is upon he is the type of person who's good he's steadfast and he Minds what is only his own business right he he falls under meaning he does not know about the situation and he does not care either okay you say he did this but I don't care I'm not part of it don't invoke me it's not my business and this is a good thing to do he does not burden himself with doing everything and this is what everyone should be doing that someone's if someone informed you about another person go say it's not none of my business leave me out of it I'm concerned about myself I want to get J so as long as the conditions have not been presented to you and and the the preventatives have not been uh made extinguished they are no longer present upon you right there's no necessity for you make to make the you you stay have it and this is good now the third type is the person who says that I know what you have told me about so and so but I don't trust you as a person and I cannot know whether this person did that this person is also perfectly fine he does not fall into disbelief rather he's doing something called what is is saying that if the person did do kuur then yes he's a Believer he's a disbeliever but because I do not know about the situation I do not care about the situation I do I cannot trust what has reached me I cannot make upon him but I know that the belief itself is cfer and this person is also perfectly fine rather he he just not trusting the narration that's come to him and that's fine as well inshallah so those are the are the types of people who do not make upon y or so and so so we should not fall into extremism regarding this we do not say that just because he doesn't declare who I declar a disbeliever he's now a disbeliever himself perhaps he has a condition that has not reached him or that he he has in it or that he does not consider the thing to be trustworthy coming from you right as we've discussed in the three types now the second thing Muhammed ABAB States is or doubts in their disbelief that's the second uh statement now this means the one who does not even consider the kufur to beur and he says my brother saying Muhammad give me children is not or rejecting vers of the Quran is not kufur this person is a disbeliever but it also has categories and conditions and rulings now the first is the person who doubts in the kufur of an issue which has genuine differing over for example there is there is consensus upon leaving the completely as in to be but upon the frequency they is differing for example is leaving just one Salah or is leaving the majority of the Salah three hour five in a day kuur or is it leaving it for a month or such such and such period ofur right there differing upon the frequency that makes one I dis believe her so if you say that Yaki I know that but I I hold the opinion that it's after three prayers left in the day or I hold the hand opinion that it's two prayers left and he's called by the IM and the IM says that this is bad and forces him to pray and he's given three days such and such and I take this opinion that person has no fault upon him and he he he's not the type of person that falls under his no fire because his has genuine differing over its application and for example if someone says yeah now I want you to first hear my statement fully in the book of of IM he says that the one who drinks alcohol is upon but why does he believe so because we know that upon ma sin is the belief of the so why is said this because the Sal believed that whoever drinks alcohol he would leave the Salah for 40 days why would anyone pray Salah for 40 days when it's not accepted right so you have to know the rulings upon why some people believe such and such to be KU of course the they do not believe alcohol to be kufur itself rather they believe the implication of drinking alcohol to be kufur meaning someone does not even pray for 40 days right so this person is not upon disbelief he's not falling under upon the thir fire just because he takes a different opinion on a ruling that is valid the second type is the person who doubts in the kufur of an issue which has conditions that make it kufur or not kufur for example the issue of it has condition that make it or not for example there are two types ofj there is a of and of respect mean the of worship and the of respect now we cannot say that making is right because there are two types so the first type is the type which is right the second type in our the wasallam it is Haram he is forbidden but in the previous sh right for example it it was Hal it was permitted for example the Angels they they made prostration they made to Adam out of respect and of obedience to Allah or for example yousef's family and Adam family they made s to him and these were the so the respect and this was legislated in previous religions as lawful but from the we know that it is Haram in our nation so of course this person is also perfectly fine he does not fall under the D on the fire in this regard of of doubting disbelief so these two are Muslims and they have no fault upon them they are not even upon sin repeat which part the second category he's left but just to repeat the second category is the one who doubts in the kufur in an issue which has conditions that make it kuur notur for example if someone says that not all of s is kufur he's he's perfectly correct in this because is of two types and respect only if is is so if someone says that not isur he's correcting this and he's not fall into sin even so he does not fall under the third nullifier now the third type in the one who doubts disbelief he is the one who doubts in the of something in which there is consensus upon for example he says that the there is differing upon this or that they are Muslim all he says that the Quran is he says that saying the Quran is created is notf this person enters into disbelief this is what the third the second phrase of the third NF is talking about the one who doubts in disbelief mean disbelief that right if you say if someone says that if someone said that the Quran is created is he is not C or that to say itself is not KU or that the are Muslims because they have said nothing wrong their belief is sound this person is a disbeliever that's what the second is talking about and this time is much more common than the first because this phrase is how people apply the first phrase between matter there is a deeper explanation to it but I'm saying generally because Quran not being has condition all but I mean someone saying Quran in general is and he denies this he's a to go into Quran deeply that's a whole another issue but yeah this type is much more common than the first because why it's how people apply the first type they said that because something is a someone is a Muslim for example they said that because is not that person is still a Muslim and it does not matter how well vered a person is it does not matter how well educated they are it doesn't matter if that person even goes to Medina University and he's first in their class and they have a from like does right if they believe that has differing upon it being or and he takes this person has fallen into into the third fire he he he has he has negated the of and said that is only Haram he's falling into thir n Fire now the third part of the of thir n Fire which is all considers the ideology to be correct and this is even worse than second because instead of arguing that something is should go har right arguing over the the ruling on how impermissible he is they try to say that these actions are rather completely correct that they are permissible and they are those who say that is and to call upon the is recommended and the of these people is easy to understand because they have not just said that is only Haram they have permitted they've said sh is must isal now that's all I want to talk about in terms of this NF but I want to bring some statements of the on this and the first is IM when it comes to those who do not and he says in his he says that the Quran is the word of Allah in it he spoke and it is not created so whoever claims that the Quran is created he is a j and whoever claims the Quran is the word of Allah and then stops and he does not say it is not created he is worse in from the first and more evil in is saying and whoever claims that our pronunciation of the Quran is created and our recitation of it is created and that the Quran is the word of Allah he is an evil J innovator and whoever does not declare upon these people and all of the he is just like them in judgment meaning the one who does not say that these people are disbelievers then he himself is a disbeliever and abdah Ahmed he narrates from his father no sorry he narrates from and he says that the Quran is the word of Allah whoever says that he is created he is a disbeliever and whoever doubts regarding his kuf he is also a kaf and if you read he narrates there from the two RIS abui and ABI and they said that whoever claims that the Quran is created he is a disbeliever in Allah the almighty with Aur that brings him out of the meaning the religion and whoever doubts in his kuur amongst those who understand he is also a inshallah we're going to stop it there we have reached around 40 minutes so we'll open it up to question in if anyone has question about these first three nullifiers he also was talking about I don't believe so because he was talking about things that were exclusive to Allah meaning it came under yeah there is a whole discussion where is Haram but that's it's not but it's only Haram and not if there's no R involved R meaning what Rel upon the other than Allah if there's involved then it becomes and if there's not involved then it's Haram but that's not because changes rather the action changed I a question from yesterday's topic about when someone is considered insane if the person has mental health issues does not not make him fall into the category of insane or not having mental health issues will not make you fall into the category of insane right the majority people today claim uh they have mental health issues right I have this I have that the and could you explain that again yes so I was talking about saying that it means that Muhammad is going to sit upon the of and this is something that is narrated from the student of and he says that Muhammad s Al wasallam will be seated upon the throne and this you can find in for example and himself he says that there is no issue regarding either the chain of the narration nor the text of the narration meaning they both sound you say that if someone commit says is only they commit yeah if someone says that is only Haram yes they have committed just to make sure be sh to ask Allah for the inter if you ask Allah for Muhammad to intercede for you on your that's not an issue it's when you ask Muhammad wasallam himself because when we say it means to other than Allah meaning you ask the help of someone other than Allah if you ask Allah himself Ya Allah grant me the intercession of mhammed you're only asking Allah pretty much to be a Muslim because every Muslim is granted his intercession can you repeat the third nullifier but the one who does not def the mus yes the is the one who does not consider the mus to be disbelievers or doubts in the disbelief or considers the ideology to be correct then such a person himself has disbelieved by are those who say that Allah did not speak the Quran because Allah is not limited to language but it wasn't Quran created because Allah is not limited to language but it wasn't Quran but it wasn't created are those people that is the the the the The Hiding of the and they hide their belief behind this where they say that oh the Quran is not created but language is created so the Quran we have in language is created that is where there is distinction between and because they do not even the scholars tell them that they that the Quran is uncreated and they believe this but but the the themselves and their Scholars they know that the Quran they believe the Quran is created they say it themselves whether it's you know Al in the past or Al in the past or forther today they all affirm they believe the Quran is a cre but to say that are all those people in general including the lay man and the and the the scholar in together you can't say that all of them blanketly are because the L do not even know what what the belief is but if a Layman says the Quran is created then yes see he's a disbeliever but if the Layman of the do not know that they belief is that then of course they have but where did the belief the Quran being come from yeah and they all believe that the Quran was created because they believed that Allah had no attributes the original was they believed that Allah had no attributes meaning that there's only Allah he he's not all powerful nor is he uh weak so because they believe that Allah has no attribute they believe that all of his attributes are created and they come under possessions yeah the origin what does that they did not believe in they what they believed in is a Christian notion where God is a a Divine Simplicity or whatever absolute Divine Simplicity I believe it's called it's it's some Christian whack BS don't even go into it there's no need but that's what they believed because they use their logic over nus no they believe that he gr created attributes some did yes it it really depend on who you asked because to gain or cre attributes means that he does not have any attributes because if they created then the attributes do not become they become but that is a whole like the nuances on whether XY on what the believed there's a lot of narra on it if they believe that Allah have no attributes are they AR they the Quran yes of course there the Allah's attributes and that this is common to the to the mind right the a the common people they know that Allah's attributes they know that Allah is all powerful and this is an attribute could you clarify on the recitation of M as a human voice now this is something where the Sal did not take a stance meaning the Sal said that to say that our recitation is uncreated they consider it a the reason why is because the recitation itself it can mean many things many things and that's how the they use their uh their hiding of their own ideology and they twisted their words so that you you thought they believe one thing but they actually the other rather the said we we we do not take a stance on it we do not say it's created nor do we say it's uncreated because the recitation it can mean your voice I the sound coming out or it can mean the voice that you recite which one do you mean which one did the J mean because they only said left did they mean my voices create or did they mean my word the words that recite create or did they mean the Quran create what did they mean exactly because love can me many things so they did not take a position on it and that's why some sometime you you see though you see the they do not make upon the right they make upon those who say the Quran is created but those who say the reation is created they say they are because it is very very ambiguous what they need technically what the official position of the m is the scholars that came later they believe that the words that you recite the Quran that you recite is uncreated but your voice itself is created but that's only because they had to clarify rather the best thing to do is stay silent upon it but if that's all for question in we'll end it there I'll give her just another minute yes in go ahead is when someone affirms that what a person is they say indeed what this person did if they did it is kuer but I do not know whether whether they did it that's the meaning you affirm theur of an action but you do not affirm for that person because you not know about them so for example if a person I do not trust told me that your friend did I'll say okay if he if he indeed did then that that is disbelief but I do not trust you in you saying that he did this that's you leave it because you do not have enough information and rather it's best for you to leave it because it does not concern you because unfortunately what a lot of people today do is they they concern themselves too much with and they go out their way to try and find it so they can apply upon people in we end it there everyone for joining

proceed alhamdulillah last lesson we got through the first line of Al and also we talked a lot about who is and a lot on specifically about the conditions and the preventives because those are very important points before you even start to learn about what the what the nullif are and of course we have to remember that as we mentioned last lesson that these nullifiers are only warnings to us they are from the Au to us so that we do not fall into them ourselves of course the nullifies because they are nullifies they are what we use to base our upon but it does not mean you use notifiers as a way to now seek out rather is something that you do because of a necessity meaning something has become aware of you and there&#39;s no chance for you to leave it because of course the Blessed Muslim is the one who Minds his own business you don&#39;t go out searching for you don&#39;t go out trying to fulfill every single condition if it comes to you that&#39;s one thing but there&#39;s an EA you know what I mean you don&#39;t uh seek out the cfor of other people because you make it hard upon yourself in if you can recite for us the first let me unmute you in Muhammed ABD [Music] so this is the first ntif and the first is as the shik says the first ascribing Partners in the worship of Allah and then he says that Allah the most high he says in ay 116 indeed Allah does not forgive that partners are prescribe to him however he forgives other than that for whoever he Wills now the author he first mentions this point in why because it is the most dangerous of them it is the one which Allah does not forgive and Allah also number 48 verily Allah forgives not that partner should be set up with him in worship and he also said that whoevers partn and worship with Allah then Allah has for forbidden Paradise with them and he also ay 36 but those who disbelieve for them will be the fire of Hell neither will it have a complete killing effect on them so that they die nor shall its torment be lightened for them thus do we require every disbeliever just thus do we requite every disbeliever now sh in is worshiping anything other than Allah and doing acts of worship to anyone other than him so this includes stuff like and Slaughter and taking oathes and seeking help from other than him in a face that only he is exclusive in now sh is of two types the first type of shik is Major and major sh is a type that takes one out of the religion of ISL Islam it is a type that separates the Believers from the disbelievers that they are the Muslim and the mus now the second type is minorik now minorik is a major sin which leads to sh it sets you on a path to shik and there&#39;s aith in the mus ofed Ahmed where the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is reported to have said that the thing I fear most for you is min and they said what is myuk and he said showing off for Allah will say on on the day when people are recompensed for their actions go to those for whom you were showing off with your deeds in the world and see what reward you will find with them meaning you did not do it for my sake but you did it for their sake so go to them the one who sake you did it for and get your reward and of course only Allah gives reward on now there is a way in which the scholars they differentiate major sh and minor shik when it comes Toth in the most case not in every case but in most cases when the word is used it come either comes with the definite article or not meaning or not or when it is with with the the definite article this typically refers to Ma and when it is just this refers to Minik but this is not always the case but it is in the majority as the SCH have led out now when Allah he says in the Quran he forgives why is less than that this means any any sin that does not constitute disbelief which means you know fornication adultery drinking alcohol stealing taking part in all these things are less than they are major sins they from but they are not ofur they are things that a Muslim does and say a Muslim so Allah he&#39;s he states that he will forgive the F but he will not forgive the mush the next Ayah is that verily Allah verily whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship then Allah has made Paradise forbidden upon them and the fire will be his abod there will be no help no helpers for the oppresses so in this in this Ayah we have the statement that fire Jenna becomes Haram for them it&#39;s forbidden and that they are prevent from entering and this is a proof for those who say that one could be a mush and enter a proof against them those who say that one can be a mus and J and why is this because if if J is har for the mush then it means that there&#39;s a condition for the gates to be enter to to be open for someone and the condition is what the condition for the gates to allow someone into Jenna is that is why even the ignorant mus right those who were ignorant they were perhaps they were deaf like as theith goes there are four people that have the excuse the one who was who came before the Advent of Islam meaning the one who was deaf and could not hear the one who was too old and could not understand and the one who was mentally insane and the children threw dirt at him right these were people who who will have an excuse for being ignorant normal Allah would tell them to jump into a fire meaning show me your obedience and jump into the fire those to obey Allah and they jump into the fire they will be cleansed of theik they will have shown upon their actions in their obedience and th they will be from the and they will go to because they have shown their even though in the they were upon and when Allah says there will be no helpers for the oppressors when Allah T mentions no helpers he means those who called upon others for intercession the false gods the false deities on that day when those people call out for the help of those intercessors the false gods the idols whatever their intercession is rejected however there is a type of intercession that is accepted on that day and that is an intercession of Muhammad sahu alai wasallam and this is the intercession which some Scholars called M mm meaning the a praiseworthy station as Allah T says in the Quran now this was not exactly the belief of the to slay that m is intercession indeed M will intercede for the but say that this is what we refer to as is incorrect rather that the more authentic opinion on what means is that Muhammad sahu Ali wasallam will be seated upon the upon the throne of Allah and this is found in for example where IM himself says that the narration where the student of when he says that Muhammad s alaihi wasallam will be seated upon the throne this narration it cannot be scrutinized from either a a chain point of view like the C of the of the narration nor from a point of M meaning the text but offer them a sound so and this is what a lot of the the the past including the early and the they affirmed right if if you read he also mentions M mm being Muhammad wasallam sitting on the throne now in terms of the granted intercession there is a a lengthy Hadith that talks about it and it is when the prophet Muhammad wasam he says in the Hadith that I will ask my lord for per for permission and he will give me permission and he will inspire me with words of Praise with which I will praise Him words that I do not know as of yet meaning he will know then but not now so I will praise him with these words of praise and I will prostrate before him he will say yeah Muhammad raise your head speak and intercession will be granted to you ask and you will be given intercede and your intercession will be accepted so Allah talks about this type of intercession being accepted so he will say and he will say Allah T go and bring forth anyone in whose heart there is Faith the way of a body grain so he will go and do that then he will come back and praise him with the words of praise and he will fall in prostration again and Allah T will say again yeah Muhammad raise your head speak and intercession will be granted to you ask and you will be given intercede and your intercession will be accepted and he will say again my my and Allah will say again go and bring forth everyone in whose heart there is a faith the way of a small ant or a piece of dust a speck of dust whichever you wish to interpret it as but the word means ant or Speck of dust or Mustard Seed so I will go and do that then I will come back and praise him with those words for praise and I will fall and prostrate before him and he will say yeah Muhammad raise your head speak and intercession will be granted to you ask and you will be given intercede and your intercession will be accepted he will say my my and he will say go and bring forth from the fire everyone in whose heart there is the Fai Faith the weight of the lightest lightest grain of the Mustard Seed so I will go and bring them forth now this is out for anyone who does not know how large a mustard seed is I do not know how to show you because it is horribly small I will try and attempt the mustard seed is about I know what I have a black spot on my hand maybe you can see it h right that black spot on my hand that&#39;s the size of a small a very large mustard seed right and that is it&#39;s gone now but it&#39;s tiny tiny and that&#39;s about the the largest side of mus com so imagine the smallest incredibly tiny anyone who has IM and of course the author then goes on to say m indeed in this is slaugh slaughtering for other than Allah such as a person slaughtering for a Jin or towards a grave now the reason he includes it is because during his time even now by the way there are people who slaugh Slaughter you know they do towards the gin or to towards the graves not exactly towards the grave but the inhabitants of the graves now this happens a lot in Pakistan still right I&#39;m Pakistani I&#39;m the of from Punjab it happens a lot in Pakistan where magicians they make deals with the Jin and then when it goes haywire and it goes not their way and the Gin start to threaten them and the Jin start to harm them the Jin say okay now if you don&#39;t do not want me to harm you you&#39;re going to sacrifice a chicken in my name so of course The Magicians they have they are scared out of their life now so they&#39;re going to be killed by the Jin or possessed by them so they have no choice to store a chicken for them and this is not accept accepted from them this is a type of shik and they are upon for this it is better for the Gin to kill that person than it is for them to slaughter for them because they put themselves into that position and even for those who do it willingly and they do it willingly right they they they slaughter for the Jin uh in order to gain protection from them or even in some Christian cultures right this is something that they haven&#39;t it&#39;s not it&#39;s not something that Muslims just made up they&#39;re taking it from other cultures such as the Christians and the Jews they have this person called Lilith uh she is some sort of demon in their in their theology or whatever Lilith and apparently Li Lilith in their theology kills children so they now they wear amulets and they they daughter cows for Lilith so lith does not harm their children they&#39;ve taken it from that basically it&#39;s not something new that these so-called Muslims they are really mus but they call themselves Muslims have done when they slaughter for the J and in his of this he makes a very good point that the person or the object does not matter in this case meaning it doesn&#39;t matter if it was towards a gin or a grave or towards Lilith or whoever what matters is the action itself and he brings the narration that&#39;s found in the 10th chapter of the 10th chapter where there were two men going up along a path and they were said until you sacrifice something for us we will not let you go so the first person he says I have nothing I have nothing so he he has nothing and he says I cannot sacrifice but then uh in the end he gets a fly and he sacrifices a fight for that person so he pass upon the path but he when he dies later on he&#39;s on the fire the second person he says I will not sacrifice anything for you and thus he&#39;s killed and that person is in Jen now this is I don&#39;t believe it&#39;s AI of the Prophet wasam rather is a narration from one of the sahab so he offered a fly the first person and he enter into the hire it&#39;s in the 10th chapter of could you please continue with the second N I believe you can turn on your micophone so that is a second nullify and the second nullifier is what whoever sets up intermediaries between himself and Allah supplicating to them requesting intercession from them and relying upon them such a person has this believed by the agreement of the scholars so Muhammed he hasn&#39;t given any evidence here just because the evidence is so vast but we can give a couple of ayat for example Allah says in the Quran who take less than Allah as protectors saying we only worship them so they may bring us closer to Allah a distance and they worship other than Allah which cannot harm them nor benefit them saying these are our intercessors with Allah say are you going to inform Allah of something he does not know in the heavens or on the earth glorified and exalted is he above all the sh that they commit this in Zar 39 ay number three and Surah unus number 10 ay number 18 so there are a lot of people today that say you know we&#39;re only calling upon Muhammad or we&#39;re only calling upon Ali or Hussein or jalani as intercessors with Allah you know they only bring us closer to Allah they are they are a Rea to Allah for us you donkey you donkey Allah has already refuted you in the Quran have you not read it the said the same as you have you not read it Allah says that those people who do intercession like you guys they say what they are our inter with Allah or we only worship them so that they may bring us closer to a closer to Allah by a distance you call this was right but Allah Inus right he says glorified and exalted is he above all the that they commit whil you call this Allah he calls it there&#39;s no doubt upon this he named the action whilst you call it seeking intercession isik by the words of Allah himself this is something that happens amongst many of those who claim Islam as their religion of course it does right they say we are Muslims but we call upon Muhammad or we call we call upon Hussein orani or how they call him in Pakistan they call himk I&#39;m sure you&#39;ve all heard of this they call upon help me and some of them are even students in knowledge or massive massive Scholars right there are some people in the UK in many cities even the city I live in he say that is fine you can even call upon other K Jani you know he can help you out in his grave somehow he&#39;s supplicate Allah help me you know and he&#39;s to Allah himself Ya Allah do uh for forgive me for my sins and he&#39;s in his the grave and you want his help he&#39;s worried about himself so I want to talk about this thing itself and this is how shik first originated and this this is the type of shik that was the original shik where at the time of Adam Alam there was no shik there was no shik at the time of Adam alisam there nothing but what happened was slowly slowly with the with the people of this is when shik started where these people they were Pious people like ABD Jani big scholar right we love ABD Jani we don&#39;t worship him there were many many Pious people at the time ofam and they they passed away so the people say they said let&#39;s sit in Gatherings and remember them and then slly went to Let&#39;s uh make paintings on them and then went to let&#39;s make statue of them and then he said let&#39;s call upon them so they can so they can help us and the so the people became daies sh does not happen in one step it happens slowly the Shan Works in small steps so of course the first type of was also what led to and what these people are doing it is all both a and a it is both an innovation in the religion and an active sh the differing between us and theab is that we do not engage in shik right and we accept Muhammad as the messenger of Allah and that we accept Allah by himself and one of these main differences inik is what we do not do we do not do to other than Allah right the Christians they they call Upon Jesus and the Eastern Orthodox like for example I&#39;m in Bulgaria they call upon Mary or who we callam and the Jews they call upon Ezra or the Jews they call upon whoever like magic is part of their their ideology anyway they call upon lith right with the amulet and whatever that is our difference with them we do not do so what these mus have done who claim to be Muslim is that they do exactly what the Christians and the Jews and the sabians and and what what they called exactly they have come back into their Innovation that they they reentered into doing the act of what the Christian and Jews do they&#39;ve introduced it into the religion and the prophet Muhammad he he he prophesied this where he said you will follow the footsteps of those who came before you in I believe right and they then do you mean the Jews and the Christians he said no yes this who I mean you will follow their way and this is all there is for the second nullifier because it is incompass in the first as well can you continue with the Third so this is another fire in which a lot of people make mistakes they go into extremes so this is something I want to clarify in a bit more detail and okay so the third is that a person who does not consider the mus to be disbelievers or doubts in their belief or considers their ideology to be correct such a person has disbelieved by by consensus so I want to First make clear that this is also a type ofur and with each type of we have what condition and preventatives so the condition and preventives apply to this person who does not consider the mus to mus or doubts in their disbelief or consider ideology to be correct it applies to them they have conditions and preventive like any other person who falls into KU I want to make that very clear because a lot of people they they say that these person as the second they they doubt they are care that&#39;s incorrect they are also conditions and preventives so the first of this is a person who does not consider the Musik to be disbelievers that&#39;s the first stepe now this comes under a couple of rulings the first is the person who does not consider the to be disbeliever such as the Christian the Jews and the pagans and the sabians and they do not consider ABAB or to be inhabitants of the Hellfire right the person who doubt in the disbelief of the say that these people are Muslims the Christians can be Muslims the Jews can be Muslims right that they say that these people are Muslims or that they were going to Jenna in today age these people no doubt that they are upon this principle that they are also this Believers and you know for example abdah he&#39;s one of the one of the scholar of the he says in his that the Muslims have upon the of the person who does not believe to be disbelievers meaning we we affirm them to be now the second uh type that comes into this is a person who doesn&#39;t consider a ie an apostate a person who&#39;s previously Muslim to be a disbeliever now this has a lot of conditions this a lot a lot of types of self and a lot of people fall into extremism with it so we have to clarify it now the first is that if the kufur of the person IE the person who was a Muslim and then became an apostate the kufur is well known and a person says that I know this person commit kufur and I know that he&#39;s done this act and that I know there&#39;s no preventive preventing me from making upon him and I know that there&#39;s no condition that is left but yeah he&#39;s a Muslim and I do not make now this person is a disbeliever himself right because he has shown that he knows about the situation there&#39;s no he&#39;s not being forced to he&#39;s not he he affirms that all the condition are present and all the preventives are gone but yet he does not declare to be a disbeliever and he says this person is a Muslim then yeah this person has entered into disbel himself providing that the condition and preventives upon him are also established the second type is the person who does not consider the apostate to be an apostate because he says my brother I don&#39;t know the situation so I&#39;m fearful of making the fear wrongly this person he he he has not F upon him he&#39;s a Believer he&#39;s correct upon it he&#39;s rather he is upon he is the type of person who&#39;s good he&#39;s steadfast and he Minds what is only his own business right he he falls under meaning he does not know about the situation and he does not care either okay you say he did this but I don&#39;t care I&#39;m not part of it don&#39;t invoke me it&#39;s not my business and this is a good thing to do he does not burden himself with doing everything and this is what everyone should be doing that someone&#39;s if someone informed you about another person go say it&#39;s not none of my business leave me out of it I&#39;m concerned about myself I want to get J so as long as the conditions have not been presented to you and and the the preventatives have not been uh made extinguished they are no longer present upon you right there&#39;s no necessity for you make to make the you you stay have it and this is good now the third type is the person who says that I know what you have told me about so and so but I don&#39;t trust you as a person and I cannot know whether this person did that this person is also perfectly fine he does not fall into disbelief rather he&#39;s doing something called what is is saying that if the person did do kuur then yes he&#39;s a Believer he&#39;s a disbeliever but because I do not know about the situation I do not care about the situation I do I cannot trust what has reached me I cannot make upon him but I know that the belief itself is cfer and this person is also perfectly fine rather he he just not trusting the narration that&#39;s come to him and that&#39;s fine as well inshallah so those are the are the types of people who do not make upon y or so and so so we should not fall into extremism regarding this we do not say that just because he doesn&#39;t declare who I declar a disbeliever he&#39;s now a disbeliever himself perhaps he has a condition that has not reached him or that he he has in it or that he does not consider the thing to be trustworthy coming from you right as we&#39;ve discussed in the three types now the second thing Muhammed ABAB States is or doubts in their disbelief that&#39;s the second uh statement now this means the one who does not even consider the kufur to beur and he says my brother saying Muhammad give me children is not or rejecting vers of the Quran is not kufur this person is a disbeliever but it also has categories and conditions and rulings now the first is the person who doubts in the kufur of an issue which has genuine differing over for example there is there is consensus upon leaving the completely as in to be but upon the frequency they is differing for example is leaving just one Salah or is leaving the majority of the Salah three hour five in a day kuur or is it leaving it for a month or such such and such period ofur right there differing upon the frequency that makes one I dis believe her so if you say that Yaki I know that but I I hold the opinion that it&#39;s after three prayers left in the day or I hold the hand opinion that it&#39;s two prayers left and he&#39;s called by the IM and the IM says that this is bad and forces him to pray and he&#39;s given three days such and such and I take this opinion that person has no fault upon him and he he he&#39;s not the type of person that falls under his no fire because his has genuine differing over its application and for example if someone says yeah now I want you to first hear my statement fully in the book of of IM he says that the one who drinks alcohol is upon but why does he believe so because we know that upon ma sin is the belief of the so why is said this because the Sal believed that whoever drinks alcohol he would leave the Salah for 40 days why would anyone pray Salah for 40 days when it&#39;s not accepted right so you have to know the rulings upon why some people believe such and such to be KU of course the they do not believe alcohol to be kufur itself rather they believe the implication of drinking alcohol to be kufur meaning someone does not even pray for 40 days right so this person is not upon disbelief he&#39;s not falling under upon the thir fire just because he takes a different opinion on a ruling that is valid the second type is the person who doubts in the kufur of an issue which has conditions that make it kufur or not kufur for example the issue of it has condition that make it or not for example there are two types ofj there is a of and of respect mean the of worship and the of respect now we cannot say that making is right because there are two types so the first type is the type which is right the second type in our the wasallam it is Haram he is forbidden but in the previous sh right for example it it was Hal it was permitted for example the Angels they they made prostration they made to Adam out of respect and of obedience to Allah or for example yousef&#39;s family and Adam family they made s to him and these were the so the respect and this was legislated in previous religions as lawful but from the we know that it is Haram in our nation so of course this person is also perfectly fine he does not fall under the D on the fire in this regard of of doubting disbelief so these two are Muslims and they have no fault upon them they are not even upon sin repeat which part the second category he&#39;s left but just to repeat the second category is the one who doubts in the kufur in an issue which has conditions that make it kuur notur for example if someone says that not all of s is kufur he&#39;s he&#39;s perfectly correct in this because is of two types and respect only if is is so if someone says that not isur he&#39;s correcting this and he&#39;s not fall into sin even so he does not fall under the third nullifier now the third type in the one who doubts disbelief he is the one who doubts in the of something in which there is consensus upon for example he says that the there is differing upon this or that they are Muslim all he says that the Quran is he says that saying the Quran is created is notf this person enters into disbelief this is what the third the second phrase of the third NF is talking about the one who doubts in disbelief mean disbelief that right if you say if someone says that if someone said that the Quran is created is he is not C or that to say itself is not KU or that the are Muslims because they have said nothing wrong their belief is sound this person is a disbeliever that&#39;s what the second is talking about and this time is much more common than the first because this phrase is how people apply the first phrase between matter there is a deeper explanation to it but I&#39;m saying generally because Quran not being has condition all but I mean someone saying Quran in general is and he denies this he&#39;s a to go into Quran deeply that&#39;s a whole another issue but yeah this type is much more common than the first because why it&#39;s how people apply the first type they said that because something is a someone is a Muslim for example they said that because is not that person is still a Muslim and it does not matter how well vered a person is it does not matter how well educated they are it doesn&#39;t matter if that person even goes to Medina University and he&#39;s first in their class and they have a from like does right if they believe that has differing upon it being or and he takes this person has fallen into into the third fire he he he has he has negated the of and said that is only Haram he&#39;s falling into thir n Fire now the third part of the of thir n Fire which is all considers the ideology to be correct and this is even worse than second because instead of arguing that something is should go har right arguing over the the ruling on how impermissible he is they try to say that these actions are rather completely correct that they are permissible and they are those who say that is and to call upon the is recommended and the of these people is easy to understand because they have not just said that is only Haram they have permitted they&#39;ve said sh is must isal now that&#39;s all I want to talk about in terms of this NF but I want to bring some statements of the on this and the first is IM when it comes to those who do not and he says in his he says that the Quran is the word of Allah in it he spoke and it is not created so whoever claims that the Quran is created he is a j and whoever claims the Quran is the word of Allah and then stops and he does not say it is not created he is worse in from the first and more evil in is saying and whoever claims that our pronunciation of the Quran is created and our recitation of it is created and that the Quran is the word of Allah he is an evil J innovator and whoever does not declare upon these people and all of the he is just like them in judgment meaning the one who does not say that these people are disbelievers then he himself is a disbeliever and abdah Ahmed he narrates from his father no sorry he narrates from and he says that the Quran is the word of Allah whoever says that he is created he is a disbeliever and whoever doubts regarding his kuf he is also a kaf and if you read he narrates there from the two RIS abui and ABI and they said that whoever claims that the Quran is created he is a disbeliever in Allah the almighty with Aur that brings him out of the meaning the religion and whoever doubts in his kuur amongst those who understand he is also a inshallah we&#39;re going to stop it there we have reached around 40 minutes so we&#39;ll open it up to question in if anyone has question about these first three nullifiers he also was talking about I don&#39;t believe so because he was talking about things that were exclusive to Allah meaning it came under yeah there is a whole discussion where is Haram but that&#39;s it&#39;s not but it&#39;s only Haram and not if there&#39;s no R involved R meaning what Rel upon the other than Allah if there&#39;s involved then it becomes and if there&#39;s not involved then it&#39;s Haram but that&#39;s not because changes rather the action changed I a question from yesterday&#39;s topic about when someone is considered insane if the person has mental health issues does not not make him fall into the category of insane or not having mental health issues will not make you fall into the category of insane right the majority people today claim uh they have mental health issues right I have this I have that the and could you explain that again yes so I was talking about saying that it means that Muhammad is going to sit upon the of and this is something that is narrated from the student of and he says that Muhammad s Al wasallam will be seated upon the throne and this you can find in for example and himself he says that there is no issue regarding either the chain of the narration nor the text of the narration meaning they both sound you say that if someone commit says is only they commit yeah if someone says that is only Haram yes they have committed just to make sure be sh to ask Allah for the inter if you ask Allah for Muhammad to intercede for you on your that&#39;s not an issue it&#39;s when you ask Muhammad wasallam himself because when we say it means to other than Allah meaning you ask the help of someone other than Allah if you ask Allah himself Ya Allah grant me the intercession of mhammed you&#39;re only asking Allah pretty much to be a Muslim because every Muslim is granted his intercession can you repeat the third nullifier but the one who does not def the mus yes the is the one who does not consider the mus to be disbelievers or doubts in the disbelief or considers the ideology to be correct then such a person himself has disbelieved by are those who say that Allah did not speak the Quran because Allah is not limited to language but it wasn&#39;t Quran created because Allah is not limited to language but it wasn&#39;t Quran but it wasn&#39;t created are those people that is the the the the The Hiding of the and they hide their belief behind this where they say that oh the Quran is not created but language is created so the Quran we have in language is created that is where there is distinction between and because they do not even the scholars tell them that they that the Quran is uncreated and they believe this but but the the themselves and their Scholars they know that the Quran they believe the Quran is created they say it themselves whether it&#39;s you know Al in the past or Al in the past or forther today they all affirm they believe the Quran is a cre but to say that are all those people in general including the lay man and the and the the scholar in together you can&#39;t say that all of them blanketly are because the L do not even know what what the belief is but if a Layman says the Quran is created then yes see he&#39;s a disbeliever but if the Layman of the do not know that they belief is that then of course they have but where did the belief the Quran being come from yeah and they all believe that the Quran was created because they believed that Allah had no attributes the original was they believed that Allah had no attributes meaning that there&#39;s only Allah he he&#39;s not all powerful nor is he uh weak so because they believe that Allah has no attribute they believe that all of his attributes are created and they come under possessions yeah the origin what does that they did not believe in they what they believed in is a Christian notion where God is a a Divine Simplicity or whatever absolute Divine Simplicity I believe it&#39;s called it&#39;s it&#39;s some Christian whack BS don&#39;t even go into it there&#39;s no need but that&#39;s what they believed because they use their logic over nus no they believe that he gr created attributes some did yes it it really depend on who you asked because to gain or cre attributes means that he does not have any attributes because if they created then the attributes do not become they become but that is a whole like the nuances on whether XY on what the believed there&#39;s a lot of narra on it if they believe that Allah have no attributes are they AR they the Quran yes of course there the Allah&#39;s attributes and that this is common to the to the mind right the a the common people they know that Allah&#39;s attributes they know that Allah is all powerful and this is an attribute could you clarify on the recitation of M as a human voice now this is something where the Sal did not take a stance meaning the Sal said that to say that our recitation is uncreated they consider it a the reason why is because the recitation itself it can mean many things many things and that&#39;s how the they use their uh their hiding of their own ideology and they twisted their words so that you you thought they believe one thing but they actually the other rather the said we we we do not take a stance on it we do not say it&#39;s created nor do we say it&#39;s uncreated because the recitation it can mean your voice I the sound coming out or it can mean the voice that you recite which one do you mean which one did the J mean because they only said left did they mean my voices create or did they mean my word the words that recite create or did they mean the Quran create what did they mean exactly because love can me many things so they did not take a position on it and that&#39;s why some sometime you you see though you see the they do not make upon the right they make upon those who say the Quran is created but those who say the reation is created they say they are because it is very very ambiguous what they need technically what the official position of the m is the scholars that came later they believe that the words that you recite the Quran that you recite is uncreated but your voice itself is created but that&#39;s only because they had to clarify rather the best thing to do is stay silent upon it but if that&#39;s all for question in we&#39;ll end it there I&#39;ll give her just another minute yes in go ahead is when someone affirms that what a person is they say indeed what this person did if they did it is kuer but I do not know whether whether they did it that&#39;s the meaning you affirm theur of an action but you do not affirm for that person because you not know about them so for example if a person I do not trust told me that your friend did I&#39;ll say okay if he if he indeed did then that that is disbelief but I do not trust you in you saying that he did this that&#39;s you leave it because you do not have enough information and rather it&#39;s best for you to leave it because it does not concern you because unfortunately what a lot of people today do is they they concern themselves too much with and they go out their way to try and find it so they can apply upon people in we end it there everyone for joining

Transcript for:Lecture on Nullifiers of Faith and Conditions

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Lecture on Nullifiers of Faith and Conditions