When I hit Alibaba, I had sold my blood, I had sold my car, I couldn't give up, I wanted to show the world that I can. If I want to describe myself in one sentence, I can say that I am Majid . And it became a place where we couldn't give people money. I wished that I wasn't born. I said to myself, Majid, go ahead, do everything for 100 hours, eventually you will become a philosopher, that is, you will become a philosopher . At one time, these details were very valuable to me. Now I am saying what I am doing, why did I spend my time here, and this happened to me a few months ago, and there are no assets in the company, the factory, or the land. The people who are sitting at the table, maybe, for example, these podcasts that have become history, I will eventually write a book about it, sir, this is what I finally realized that I want to say a sentence . Talk, Dad, look what you're doing, where is my camera anyway ? How is Tenkyu Majid? Excellent, thank God, sir, these three or four days were very relaxing. Yes, it was really a wonderful experience for me. I visited you a lot. I learned a lot from you. I got to know your characters. We did different things and we spent a lot of time together. It was a wonderful experience for me. What do you use in Alibaba? Yes, our java is also used by Alibaba and it is growing and developing, sir. Let 's start from the beginning. Look at the story of the beginning of Alibaba. Well, I think almost everyone in Iran knows Alibaba, but I have not been in Iran for many years. I don't know how many bookings are being updated and how many bookings are being made. Can you give us an idea of ​​how much you are working and what skills you have? Can you believe I don't have the numbers ? I am looking at the things that are important to me. Now maybe they are important to the children . You are not active in daily Alibaba. I was not active at all. I was there until the 6th of Shahrivar. When Tawheed got the job, he told me that if I got an appointment, you should go out of this office. It was a very beautiful office. That office was the first day. The office was the first day. He said, go out after the office. We also went to Abeidag, 100 meters away. We have an office. Yara's office was actually our call center. I sat there, Tawhid. When did you bring in a new CEO? Nima, Tawheed and I were both in college. We were all polymer students. I was 76, Nima, 78, Tawhid, 81. Somehow we started together. 67 months later, he joined me. I am a shareholder. Actually, seriously, our whole group. Yes, Tawheed was there. We didn't see him like these glasses. We had a meeting. Tawheed himself was supposed to be Tawheed. It wasn't our luck, Mr. CEO, when to put him . Dad, I had moved away and my focus was on other companies, most of them being younger, they are more exciting for me, it's like he's a child, you always like him more, my focus was on them, and Alibaba was really getting hurt, then I would go to a meeting by myself, for example, it was a business meeting, or I would get stuck on a font, why did you put this font? We were saved. Tawheed says, I want to tease the children at some point . Do the most wrong things several times and there is a famous video of Steve Jobs who says that the best managers are those who are already working and are not interested in management, you know. Out of compulsion and because the best people for management are becoming managers, my hand is Golsham, he was the CEO of Pepsi, yes, well done, exactly, exactly, so this is a very, very good experience that you brought someone, but I understand that you are saying about Fant and this, I will establish some relationship with him, I think you mean that the business at that size and at that size you spent your time on small things, yes, but on the other hand, you do not agree that the first game started from here, that is For example, from the design of the product to the product , but after a while you see everything that was once valuable to me, once these details were very valuable to me, now I am saying what I am doing, why I spent my time here, and this happened to me several times, and I personally feel that one of the hardest parts of my life is that it happened to me several times, this transition from these things that were once valuable to you, and now you are saying that I am working on a bigger work, for example Just now, in the same discussion, how long have you been telling me, go, take your time, Media, I'm not a podcaster, you know, I'm my product, but because now Impact is working, it's showing itself more here, so you should spend your time on this, it's more than that. Look, I had Eid in my mind. He doesn't do it, he says no, he's used to it, but he's grown up, the clothes have become small, in fact, the clothes can't be small, he's grown up, the clothes don't fit him , you can buy another child, I understand, if you want to wear the same clothes when the company grows, well, it doesn't work, in fact, you need to go and wear another clothes, and by the way, growth is where you can grow yourself, during this process, when you grow, can you hire first-class people First-class people by your side, in fact, grow together or grow with you and let them express their work, the work that they themselves flourish in. The excellence of startup work is that you can grow to an unlimited extent, and people see this career path and this career behind them, that I can become the CEO, which means that there is no end for me . I can create anything for myself in it. For example, I can come up with an idea and start a company. It's so wonderful that there is no end to it. It's not like a traditional company that you see when preparing work. It has to die so that I can go and take its place. Look, Majid, the story of the beginning is always one of the most interesting stories . We did my work and this and I would like to get to it quickly, but let's go back to its first days, which is always interesting to me. How did you get to know the startup world? What background did you come from? I mean, did you come from the marketing side ? Let me go back a bit. I am 58 years old. My mother does not know my date of birth. I mean, we have three brothers. We all know each other. She does not know the date of birth of any of us. She does not know the date of birth of any of us. I tell her, how do you know our date of birth? I was giving birth very quickly. At that time, I did not have much to do because she was 12 years old. She married my sister. She is 13, 14 years old, and my father died when she was 23, 4 years old. That is, my mother was 24 years old. My father was 35. My father had a stroke and died. Now I have a story, I was at my father's feet, there was a wedding, the wedding was over, then, for example, I was sleeping on my feet, my father had a stroke at the end of the night, he died, this is so much, my God, my heart is burning for me, recently, not before, I was accepted to the polytechnic, I studied a bachelor's degree in the polytechnic, I got married there, after the polytechnic, my older brother had a business in China. 200201 I don't go to China very much, maybe it was Shanghai, but I didn't come out of Shanghai for a bit. He took me to the world of business. I had a very successful business for a year and a half. I had a very good income from it. After the embargo and this , things got a little looser. I got out of that job. When I got out, I started applying to go out, and this is what I'm doing. I was scammed, not a fraud, I was running to tell someone. According to this psychiatrist, he told me that you repeated your father's death. When I hit Alibaba, I had sold my blood. I had sold my car. I could not rent my house, but I wanted to show the world that I can. I can say that I am Majid, I can say that I show you that I can be, I mean, this is what I am after, well, the reason is that you said a little bit philosophical, I have to go a little bit into philosophy, really, in my opinion, our life is more of a philosophy. You are a startup. There is a story about the myth of Sisyphus. He says that the gods condemn this because I don't know the god of death, he doesn't cheat. This is the Kamoe version. My version is that he was sentenced to only carry a stone up. If this is your sentence, carry a stone up. What do you do when you reach the top? It is inevitable that you let go. It will come down and take it up again. You can't take it all up. You reach the top of the peak and you can't continue. So you have to repeat this. You are condemned. I am showing you that I can. If everyone believes that I can, what will I do? I throw a stone down and I can show it again. He says, "Oh, you didn't see it. Then, when I sold my house, I sold my car, I sold everything, it was there that everyone said, "I saw it by chance. This is what I did, and that's how my winning formula was stimulated. It actually started again. I was in the middle of those courts and food cases that were all over Tehran. One of these judges said, "Here is the Shahid Hossein Nejad Complex. We all work for you. That's the case." I had some food, we called Nima, we started Alibaba with Nima, we called another friend, Ali Timachi, Ali said, I will get 3 tomans, I'll just check to see if this will work at all or not, because the website was not online at all, what year are you talking about, 92, I paid 3 tomans to the card right there, even though I'm really saying, for example, I would hardly pay 3 tomans for renting a house. I'll take it to see if it can be done or not. Yes, I don't know if this is a license. No, I don't know. Technically, I want to see if this robot works on Erlaina's website or not. Where did the idea come from? I mean, you had seen a model. I worked in commerce for many years in China Seatrip, when it started in 2012. We used to search, sir, can you give Ron's number, for example, you would give us a check, now it doesn't matter if it's your credit card number, rand number, or if it was your game membership number, we used to go to the airport earlier, I used to see Citripo and it was always in my mind, did you see something in the mind of Sipp? You left, you went outside of Iran, did you see anything, did you come inside, did you see anything? I had that in my mind when I went bankrupt. I had lost everything. You had a good meal. You were making money. I said I gave my word. Yes, I gave my word. I made money. I gave my word very well. At that time, when I was very good, you saw this travel agency. People say that people become rich. At that time, in Iran, maybe that travel agency was very clean. At that time , it was as if I was an old man. People were very classy. For example, bro, let's start an agency, for example, well, all this business disappeared after I had a lot of rental business, a consulting company in this field, I thought I was a rock-flare, for example , you are very delusional, you get a success when you are young, you are delusional. The sponsor of this episode of the 16th floor podcast is Limo Hoste company. What do they say? I saw that most of them are satisfied with the company Limouset and its services, especially when I saw that they praise its support a lot, as you can see that they are very active and answer your questions. Recently, the company Limouset has launched a service called Scale, or probably Skill, which, as the name suggests, is for companies and campaigns that go up, and mainly because of the high number of visits, the service becomes a word-of-mouth service. In Iran, this service is the answer to this need. If you also have a similar problem in your company, you should definitely contact the support team of Merias and the Limoges company, consult with them and see if their solution works for you or not. Let's go to the podcast. It's interesting that on this trip that we were here together, I heard things that I heard from Enver, that by the way, you had a relatively difficult childhood, but you are describing how difficult everything is. It was like a nightingale and my self-confidence was very high, and I said that many people who have very low self-confidence show that their self-confidence is very high. In a way, I started a conflict. It is an aspect of proving that I can do this. Look, I am a child. Well, for two years, the same stories you tell. There is a fight with the lady until, for example, she takes a line and says, "Look, I'm not a criminal. I'm sick. I was healthy. My heart aches for my dead father. She's softening a bit. Yes, I'm from the same place where my father died. Well, my mother herself says that we were children. We grew up together. Only you went to study. I didn't study. I'll take care of you . Anyway, naturally, it's a tense family. My father is also from Dahai Kap. Ah, my mother is from Dahai, between Qom and Kashune, and I can say that we are a family, I don't know what to call it, anyway, we were tense, I was one of my brothers, we didn't quarrel with each other, we did n't make peace with each other, we just beat each other. They were busy with their own problems, in any way, he was always tense in the house. Outside, I was under the control of Mr. Ya, I was a batterer, and well, my mother always had a potential poverty. Well, my father died. Our financial situation was good, but we had a house with two floors and a basement. My mother rented the two floors and kept us in the basement. He used to do the same thing, he is still doing the same thing, I still have this story, I mean, I have a fear of the future, my father has passed away, how old is my father, the story of my return to Iran, which we were talking about now, I came to Iran in 2014, I came to Iran in 2014, and we just counted, it was 93 94. I'll interrupt you, but right now I'm my mom, for example, I'm talking to her on the phone, did you see her at all, for example, you say now mom, for example, she came to change the windows of the house, it cost 25 million, they say, I'll stop working on this , how much do I have to do now, I'm young, don't eat anymore. There may be a dark future. Yes, we would not give soap to us after that, for example, on Friday mornings, he would tell us to go to the Doa Nadoh mosque, where they would give soap, but that's what he did for us. In some way, we all had a religious family, or are you yourself? My mother was not religious, but for example, she still prays the fasting prayer, but she told us to pray in a religious way. She did n't care. I consider myself a believer. That is the conventional meaning of the society, one has to believe in something. I really agree. I can't say that I really believe in that form of believer. It means a safe mind. It means security, which is not a physical thing. I don't remember . We opened a lot of parentheses. Yes, you are in general. This is the nature . Studying wasn't an advantage at all. It wasn't that you would get accepted into the university. For example, I listened to Reza Alipuro's podcast a while ago. It was very interesting. I had a very similar experience. When I got accepted, I came to the university and told my mom, for example, I was accepted to Politnik. It was like this: Well, how did you become? For example, not at all. I said it's like when you stay at a university, you become something. At first, it wasn't very good for him. He realized that no, for example, we were accepted into a good university, but when I was accepted, I entered the university. I grew up a lot. I mean, I came from a family that had a rural background in a way, and we were under a lot of stress. Entering the polytechnic, it's like entering the free world. When I entered , I was really at the bottom of the pyramid compared to the other children, mentally, intellectually, for example. Our school had 300 fourth grade students. I am a close friend of mine and we got accepted to Polytechnic University. We said to each other, Polymer Amir Taghabani, all the kids who were accepted to Azad University had their pictures posted on the wall. We asked why you didn't come here. No one has ever been accepted here . When I started, I didn't even know what a startup was. A year later, Nima came to me and told me that Majid, do you know us? Are we a startup? I said, what is a startup? He said that they are going to attract capital, and I said that it is very good, but I had no idea what it meant. A person came once and said, Majid, we should pay Haji, yes, once he came and said we should have UX. I said, what does UX mean? User Experience Fam said, how much user experience does this user experience have? It's definitely something very important. Let's go, for example, let's take UX. We realized that our startup came from somewhere. Look, this is very questionable for me because I talked to many people. Because my background was business. I've been doing traditional business work for 5-6 years. Well, it's interesting to me that how did you know that it's such a big job because, for example, we're still trying to help people. For example, let's explain in many places, sir, how much the world is based on technology and computers, and we didn't know that it was very big. It wasn't like we thought it was. I was bankrupt. I had nothing. I had an idea that C-trip, you can do something like this. Remember where you can get C-trip, how big it is, for example, it's big. It's worth doing this. When you go to any airport, I'm Kim, I'll show you, I can do it, anyone who wants I can show you that when you are down, you need to do something in that skill, so I can say that maybe I wasn't aware that it would be a big job, but unconsciously, that big job was in me now . I can say yes, yes, now it's interesting, two or three years after Alibaba started and was successful, I told this psychotherapist in my psychotherapy session that if Alibaba disappears, he said, "You are preparing for the disappearance of Alibaba again. It was very interesting to me. How many times did Alibaba go bankrupt ? I can't say how many times we went bankrupt. What kind of bankruptcy is it?" You don't have the people's money, you owe everyone debt, you're going to go bankrupt, as one of the kids said, "You left, you broke a kilometer, you told us to come, guys, it's very cool, we made sense, we just didn't come, but how did we do this?" I mean, I understand that when that psychotherapy analysis, I have been undergoing psychotherapy for 12-13 years and this ability is very important that I started to be aware of artificial bankruptcy, artificial bankruptcy, you can be very profitable but be bankrupt, how did you go home, buy property, buy our building, buy employee salaries, and you can't pay your debts . When Corona hit, instead of braking, I started gassing the business in Jabama and in other places. We invested a lot and it became a place where we couldn't give people money. Now you are talking a lot, but it's interesting. I really want to say this. At some point, you wish to die. I mean, you've seen people say that they wish they were dead. When this happened, I had taken my wife's deed. I had put it in a bank mortgage. He had sold his company for 75, I had borrowed money, whatever the money was, I had taken it . One night I couldn't sleep, I took sleeping pills and I couldn't sleep again. I remember two or three mornings I wished that I didn't give birth, there was no way to die. If I die, imagine that scene, what will happen to you if you die? You take all your family with you, there is no way to die, and I wished I hadn't been born, that I wouldn't be in this situation now, it wasn't too far away, it was two or three years ago, and it was a very, very interesting experience. I just remember, I told myself that Majid has a book, it's hard, hard work, I forgot its name . And we continued, I also have a moral that I have a creditor who calls, I don't answer the second call, the first one means that his name is called, I pick up the call, I said, sir, I do n't have it, now wait, you will fix it, we give this asset, we have it, we have it, and he did another thing . It's just that you bought too little, brother, or you made an idol, for example, the timing was wrong for the future, the timing of the time, sir, this is coming, the loan of Tejarat Bank was headed, we were paying money, we were coming from the surface, Tejarat said yes, no, the whole previous months, you have to pay, then I told Dr. Sattari, Sattari said, I will call, hey, hey, this is a bigger bullet, then the loan that is headed is your loan and the rest of your loans. You can't take the rest, but we couldn't take it. Hey, we fell. You know, it's in these things that when you hit a domino, everything falls. We got into a lot of challenges, we were involved in a series of food cases, and many different things got mixed up. Remember all this, where did it all start? Since I was the death of my father, hey, I'm repeating. Hey, I said this. My therapist told him, hey, you're repeating. You're going to welcome Alibaba's failure. It was very real, but instead of speaking out, I actually went and bought assets, but we experienced bankruptcy, that is, we had our backbone, that's why we got up much stronger. I'll open a parenthesis here and tell you what happened. Well, we were like Basozon, go grow. You saw that we were a startup Basoson until that year, sir, Basozon. We burned this PC and this PC in this means profit contribution one, that profit one, which is the margin, then profit, then operation, profit, three, commercial, profit. Why did I make it myself ? No excuses, excuses, reasons, I was saying, "Well, don't hurt your hand, I 'll take these reasons, guys, my salary would be late at the table, my salary would be late in 2030 days, it would be 20 days late. " That super is a human being, he also understands that I am a farmer, be a human being, he also understands that our problem is a stupid cow, in order to give milk, it needs to be milked, Dad, throw this away, you only need to generate Pbit, you only need to generate profit, and this conversation changed the company because, well, for years, anyway, we had spent money for growth, children also because they saw that we are really trying, in all these 10 years, we have made a profit once. We didn't divide everything we made, we poured it into the work, we continued, we saw this, we also have a Hosseini spirit, sir, take care of your work, you are stuck, you will fail, the company really supported us, we did what we couldn't do for years . I repeated your failure and my therapist said, Majid and you are welcoming the loss of Aliba again, we destroyed Aliba, and I will show you his heart again, I can show you again, where, for example, everyone was disappointed, Dad went home, went to the car, went to the car again, and we reached the peak. Then 1402 became our best year. He says there is a translation later . I said it's painful, we will be cleansed in this burning, I mean, I could see that in this suffering and hardship, an opening will be created in me, I really feel, I will write a note for Saeed, I will send you a message later on WhatsApp, I feel like putting an iron in that bush, they put the iron, it burns, then they come, I really had the same feeling. The cleaning process is actually those impurities inside the iron that lead to iron steel or anything that leads to it becoming stronger and harder. Yes, it is the same weight, right? But during this time when you hit Alibaba, you were in charge of the role of CEO, or at the beginning of everything, you are both in charge of 100 jobs. I was the CEO of Alibaba until September. Java has grown up, Arubas Boss, Javaba is yours, yes, Javaba, it has grown up, this is my name, I have to ask you, Alibaba, where did Java come from, but where did Arubas come from? It's a great job right now, what we're doing in the field, in fact, Arlinea, it's also a great job, hey, we're starting the ecosystem we're building, and building more of a business in you. In fact, we are building a tour in the field. We are doing the same as the first time with Nima, not Nima. On that day, she is working completely for herself. In operation, our construction is separate , it is similar to everyone else, but Nima works completely for herself. This was part of the data that you got, that is, you saw that there is a lot of booking for you in Alibaba, but there is not enough space for it, but there is a demand for it. It is very interesting. People like quality products and the best. Iranian residences, now you want to buy a house for the winter, maybe there is no room, that means the best ones fill up first, it's not like they fill up first, the average ones fill up first, the best ones are the most expensive ones, naturally the best ones are the most expensive ones, but it necessarily means expensive, it means I like expensive. When in Qeshm, you can't buy 10 to 15 houses for this year's Bahman and Asman, for the weekend, naturally, if someone calls it, it has a return on investment of two or three years, the data shows the same, well, we entered this field , it's very interesting because, for example, you have a data that does some basic work, but for example, if I wanted to work, I would have to buy it with a friend . Pay attention, it's all somehow related to me. We haven't entered any unrelated business. I haven't bought from Alibaba yet. I didn't want to do it. What is Alibaba? You're going to buy a movie ticket, I'm not kidding. For example, you're going to buy a bus ticket, a bus ticket, a tour, a hotel ticket, and any kind of travel ticket. My billboard belongs to you. Most of this last year's two-three-year tour has been closed. Why did you put a picture of it? Ali Baba, I saw your branding on the billboard. The boy from the animation was not cooler. He said that the picture of the animation came after him. He was the first. I also saw Ali Baba on the street. He is good. I was in Madras. I saw Ali's advertisement on the side of the street. Where did this come from? They are really independent, so much so that I saw the ad on the street, I mean, I saw you were in the news , for example, was it a rebrand or was it just for an ad? We did the rebranding. It attracts attention, there was no more negative attention, it was very controversial, that is, it was controversial, on that account, it was good. If I go back, I will come that way again, it was not that it was negative for us, it was controversial, well, it was controversial, it attracted attention . This is how they inform you, many times they don't inform you, that is, if they inform you, they would be kind. Your management method is Alibaba. I want to deal with it. Alibaba's management method is very, very much a dictatorship. It is not a curse. It means that you dictate from above. We never voted. At least I don't remember , but there is something . What does a dictatorship based on dialogue mean? That is, the person who wants to make decisions and dictate takes everyone's opinion. Now it's very interesting. If you make a dictatorial management method, then my marketing manager must be a dictator. That's it. It 's up to you until the marketing manager. It's up to you. It's up to the manager. After that, it's up to you. You can fire him. You don't have the option to interfere in our work. The wonderful thing that we have is that the listener is very important. This fact is very, very, very important. The listener should listen to what he has to say and then see if he agrees or disagrees with me. It is not that what you are saying to me will be distorted in the middle. Then he should say whether I agree or disagree. It is very important that you don't have this. Can't you work at Alibaba and have an independent character? What does that mean? That is, under the pressure of a dictator, this is unbreakable, if he wants to break it, he won't be able to break it, so there are many, many challenges with each other. It looks easy to be a listener, which is naturally rare. Now, if you are a listener, you want to be independent. I don't want to pretend later, you will see the fear of people like us, but it is very interesting that you are saying this. Now, when you are saying that a person must be a very dictating dictator, first of all, maybe it is a little bit like the first thing that a person listens to, it is like this, it is a bit counter-intuitive, that is, by the way, shouldn't you sit down and talk like this, but now I myself am the great dictator, but later I saw that I read in interviews and in books that it is one of the best ways. which has a high success rate and the reason for success is because in the first days you know what you want to do, you know the method, you want to do it quickly, you don't have the time to take it, I agree, you have to explain that the people will love me, but I really do n't understand people, they do their work, well done I hear, I remember Nima called a meeting, we wanted to launch App, Alibaba app, then we all disagreed in the meeting, Nima said, well, thank you very much, we will launch App tomorrow . I saw it, but still my decision is this, it's important to listen and you get stuck in your positions, you get locked in your own views, sometimes you explain, people are not convinced, they don't understand me at all, they say we didn't understand what you said, it's okay, I'm going to do my own thing, I have a problem, yes, yes, you're right, I'm still right, for example, we used to talk with a series of old friends that we had during Rihon's time, and now you I didn't agree with their opinion in many places, and then I did my own work, and after that year , for example, 10 years, but I told you this, brother, you only saw one angle of the case. I had 10. I saw the case in Rome. You see, you think you understand a lot. I didn't understand. You know, you always had this story. I remembered a memory. I once left a meeting at Alibaba. For example, I left a meeting with sadness. For example, on March 15, 2019. If you remember, the corona virus started in Iran on March 20, 2019. Do you remember that everyone was sleeping? Everything was locked. There were a number of charterers who were leaving to charter a flight. This was the ground. When did the managers call me, for example? 14 Asf 9 Come, let me give you a charter flight. I went and got it, I came to the company, and we had a meeting . I said, "Dad , what's this ?" It was all true. I couldn't answer. I got so angry. The meeting was on my laptop and I came out. I mean, I saw that I couldn't say anything. The words were true and everyone was saying the right thing, but I was so locked in my mind. My brain was saying go, sir, but everything was true. I might say that I was saying go. Everything was true, but we made a profit from the same contract, and because of the same thing we do in the aviation industry, we slowly went and slowly removed the engine of the plane. We went, hey, we brought more parts, this work came from the heart, this is also one of the same points, I am also a very intuitive person myself, now the Persian term is intuition, I am intuitive, well done , and Heminori Yelkhi is very efficient, he told you whatever he felt, now by the way, but very much, I have learned to control it, to know my body and this, and after you become a little more mature, you should listen a little, you will feel even You have to control every aspect, every emotion tells you that you shouldn't accept it like this, you know, until now I realized that no, brother, you really have to trust, and as you say, trust your intuition, yes, and as you say, sometimes it is not defensible. I was in that situation a lot, and I was like this, sir. For example, even now that I am my business partner with Mohsen. Please tell me, sir, let's go and do this thing, and Mohsen can convince me not to do it, and then because I'm satisfied, then it's always almost every time, that is, I was always right every time . Don't convince me, he says, I don't want to talk to you at all, because I know you will convince me, and then I realized that and then you read it again, which means it's very interesting. There's a series of articles. I can't remember the author's name. Hossam tweeted, and I retweeted. Fundermode, yes, it's AirBMB, Branchzki, AMB, yes, they say, Dad, come and get a manager, Dad, Fundermode. It is something that is absolutely impossible for someone else to come and do that work. You have an intuition somewhere. You can't explain it. You can't answer it. Everyone's words are right, but you say this. It might be wrong. Look, I have something. I always say that I did the biggest damage to the company first. Then Tawheed did it. Then Ahmad did it. Then I don't know. Saeed did it. I mean, we, who are the main directors of Alibaba, did the biggest damage to Alibaba. So why are we there because there are more interests. We made it, so what does it mean? did i hurt Sir, you are the one who makes most of your decisions, not some of them. In terms of importance, it is obvious that it was a mistake from the world, we built this one, sir, we went there, for example, we built two or three buildings for rent, we threw two or three million dollars of money away. I wish we were building something right . You make 10 decisions, 5 of them are wrong, but they are right, but you make up for them. The important thing is that you learn from the mistake quickly, don't repeat it, and make the right one, and in fact, give me the power to not run out of money, not to run out of money, this is the result of what I heard. Funders don't know Modo, I hope they will definitely take the lead, look into it, and search for it, yes, but the point was that in this period of Corona, AirBMB, which this site can take away from the people's house, and this, his business has gone to sleep, and Haji's son said, "In one day, I found out that I have a big business worth a billion dollars. Tomorrow, maybe I will make an elephant tomorrow. Yes, it means one of the biggest adjustments." He did it, he restructured the team, he made the team smaller, he changed my business model at all, that is, he said that he went to another model, for example, Corona was a challenge for himself, he opened up. It 's interesting for Alibaba, too . It was around the 13th, 14th and Esfand. We had 300 people reassigned , which made a lot of noise. People talked about it. We put the statement on Twitter instead of going somewhere for an interview, but the corona virus saved us. If it wasn't for the corona virus, I can say that we would have disappeared. That is the reassignment. The empathy that will be created after that. One of them has a book. This person who works on the H series is American. What is his name, Bio? Not the one who is on Netflix. It is a book. He is saying, sir, we made adjustments, productivity went up, the productivity of our 300 people is less, not because they were bad, not because they were first-class people, we were wrong, yes, when my person brings a first-class person in the middle of a job that is not needed, the work gets worse, because because a first-class person has no work, he has to do work, well, in a way, the work does not get more messy, the company's productivity really increased, we improved our infrastructure, Java, we took the opportunity, and he wrote himself again from the beginning . We were the fifth in the market and now we have 70 percent of the online market share. In fact, I want to say that the challenge is that it all comes from Fundermode. It will be opened somewhere for you. I worked with many people who I later parted ways with. It means that I feel that there are too many people in my field of work who are full of love for me. This is in their hearts, but I was always like, for example, with myself, as you say, there is no longer a career for you , or your employment was not right. After all, your first job was hiring, or you were not able to provide conditions for this person to grow, or you were not able to give him that attention. In the end, however you count it, it was my mistake, that's why all my friends who hear my voice, I'm Sherman, which means that it was really my mistake. I had a teacher named Sohrab Ghanbari, he was his We had a fight in the traditional business. Every time we had this fight, I was misbehaving. At that time, I would leave 50,000 toms on his salary. He once told me to eat this 50,000 toms. Treat me right. The reason for this was such a humiliating thing. I went to psychotherapy. This is where I started. I'm getting angry, I'm leaving my friend. He still complains about me. He said, "I'm going to start a business. I'll close your business. After a few years, he was driving something. It was a Lexus. It was a Lexus, not a Lancruz. It took a year, but it got better. For me, it was like, Dad, if you put the wrong person in the right place, you betrayed yourself. It wasn't because I was wrong, he left, I did the right thing, he left because Adam was in the right place in the wrong place. The same thing you are saying means hiring in the wrong place. You can't use it. It will go abroad and it will flourish. I think that today, going correctly and going out is very successful. I am happy because Josh was not with us at all. He went out and flourished. If I had stayed with us, we would have beaten each other's heads. Canada had a program when we were first in Canada. We used to get an internship. Well, with the money we are paying, a bunch of young people want to say why not and it was not a good experience because I had an internship. The program needs a mentor. You have to have someone at your head, you have to have someone who can control this, and it was there that, for example, I even receive e-mails. What are you doing? Anyway, there is work for me. Now I have to help you. I have to check. I have to have your time. It can't be like this. Sir, I'm coming here. I'm working. My mom said it's not yours, it's yours, but I want to seriously discuss something with you because we hear this and talk about it, but the dynamics of what's happening when it's happening are different from the situation we're talking about. See, for example, we have We are talking about this, you went and got marketing, don't do it, it's the right thing to say from all of us, then sometimes it's like this, why do we do it, for example, I'm in this situation and I'm in this situation a lot, it means that my words are true, every pair is correct . Even if you are laying bricks , it has to come for a week and it will be kicked . He gives me my hand, I kiss him, someone says to me, you said, I'm talking about words, what do you mean, you give results, let them do whatever you want, respect each other, the results are I will respect you, but I will lose your rights. I am here to show you that I can, in fact, Alibaba is not my achievement. Alibaba, this is a cockroach. I say life is a cockroach, this cockroach sits on the table and jumps. This is hardwired in his brain . God and Kamal, start them too. The first thing is the result, sir. Is it output or not? The only thing that has value is the value. The Imam said that a university that I know, Dad, was a very right word. A university should be a university, sir. Something of value that is not worth is not worth. It is worth when it is worth that it is worth, Dad. Value is if it is created, everything is left, everything comes. I have never seen anything worth creating in my life . I can't create something of value. I can't work with him. Yes, according to your words, even if it is against my taste, if it works. I agree, and you know that there is a point that people think is wrong. Look at me, Didi, as Nawal said, everyone will become a philosopher one day anyway, if you do anything for 10,100,000 hours, 1,000 hours, you will eventually become a philosopher . You read it, you experienced it yourself, then you found a touch or a tip of the thread that I talked about less. Sir, this is what I finally realized, and the point you are making about these same people is that people think they are saying, hire the guy, don't have anything to do with him, when the point is that by the way, trust is not what they call it at all, they call it trust because you know you will get it, not by saying trust me. I leave it in the results when I log in. If the results don't come, I'll go a little bit. I'll struggle to see if it's okay. Then, because I don't know how to do it, I don't know how to do marketing. Did you ask me how many? First I said, I don't know how many. I went to psychotherapy. Psychotherapy and personal development are our core competencies. You can see it in Alibaba. They say there is a special literature that says this is my understanding. This is how I understand it, or this is my opinion. It doesn't say this. This is what my thinking model says. We worked on this issue for years. We had a group psychotherapy session. All the children of the company were psychotherapists. All the children of the company were very wonderful. I didn't pay. Everyone paid their own money. At all, it was a two-project project. It's been three years since I went with my therapist, who said that if there are enough children in the company, they can trust me. He did this. Many of them still leave the company. In fact, that group disappeared because many of them left the company, but they still go to psychotherapy, and apart from that, we worked a lot on the development of three people on literature, in fact, leader or leadership . Don't say that , you shook the head well. In a way, we are like a cult. You come to Alibaba. If you say it is like that, let me give a simpler example. You say, for example, so-and-so made me angry, sir, what does that mean? did i get angry When did you do the same thing? I didn't get angry. Why didn't you see? You insulted him. Yes, he insulted you. Why did you get angry, sir? Of course, whoever insults, where did you get it from? You know that Barkat is a lot of people who are insulted . What do we do in advance ? What do you mean, don't say you didn't send me an email, say I didn't receive an email, don't say what you said, say that's how I heard it, and there is a difference between what you say and what I say to you , because you are at fault, it is very different. This will soften the conversation. Alibaba, the tension is high, very high, but not the tension. I will go with you. I think to myself, why did Suhilino say, why didn't I answer him? No, when you became result-oriented, in the previous conversation, I said that only the result is important, so you don't buy the argument anymore. Sir, the other side is making excuses. He hits me and says, "Oh, I'm not the one who talks about calculations or calculations. What am I doing with my incalculability? Did you get results or not? I'll kiss your hand if you get results. If you don't get results, come and sit here. Let's see what's going on. " This results orientation creates a lot of challenges , and if you don't focus on yourself, I think it's psychotherapy, that's personal development, I don't know, meditation, yoga, retreats, all of this is actually sharpening the sharpness of the person's personality, it's the manifestation of the light of the person who is, instead of blurring that sharpness, it's very focused and Alibaba . In that layer, Devsalarai worked for Alibaba, his quality of life with his wife, with his mother, with his child, with his family has not improved, it has become different, it has become something else, it has become a different world. If you ask me, Majid, what is your achievement? It didn't happen that I have a wonderful relationship with my mother's children's wife and My family and colleagues should have it. This is our central feature in Alibaba, that we can talk to each other at the height of work tension, work with each other, and create an opening from challenges. This is very key and central in our collection. They say professionalism or professionalism , which means that S-Personal is not personal, sir. We are even fighting, I'm sorry, but it's hard to really get to that stage. I claim that we at Alibaba have reached this point. In that layer, in fact, the leadership of the company, the leadership layer of our company, we have the fact that the tension is very high, a manager from outside came to the meeting, it was the first time he participated in the meeting, he was relieved from the meeting, Dad said to him, sir, why was there so much fighting? He says to me, for example, a boy came and said Sohail is ok, then he said Sohail, yes, Dad, Sahl is happy, thank you, he is hitting now, but from their point of view, but it is interesting that you are saying this, that is, you are saying this in Alibaba mostly because you want to change the sender, that is, say Mr. Teno, fix it, speak more correctly, because now maybe it will be on the trip inside, it will not be received by other people, and the person who is receiving this matter has worked more in his own way. You didn't go and say, sir, yes, now he says, sir, do it, you are hot, but I am responsible for my own feelings, I am the product, responsible for listening to myself, come on, make me sharp, I say that you are constricting, I can hear you expanding, does this mean that we handle anyone's sharpness or rudeness? He was rude, even I heard it like that, the others heard it like that, it was internalized, externalized, subjective, objective, you are right, but you were sitting there, why did you get angry, come and see what you heard, where did you get angry, then we will take care of him separately, we will definitely take care of him. Sir, don't you say, this is Iran, yes, what did he say, Iran is ruined, let 's put the dust on the ground, we said yes, yes, well, there is no such thing as Iran or Biran Abad. You saw that it is very controversial. I don't know Farsi. Farsi is good, but it is a controversial word. It is a place for discussion. Sir, this Abadah is a ruin. You are comparing it to something that is much better. Something that is much worse. This is very subjective. I'm going to see Tehran like this, sir, we 're building it here, how beautiful it will be here, Damavand, this is how it should be seen, we'll clean up the air, I can say in the drama, dirt on the monkey's head, we can't fix this weather, it's a favor to me to see it in the first way, the favor to myself is right here, I didn't say that you should see it in the first way, this is not positive thinking, you are saying positive thinking, see the glass half full, I'm not saying see the glass half full, that's what I said at all I don't know, you see the emptiness, but you see the emptiness as an opportunity, how can I jump to fill it? What benefit is this for me, my family, my society, and the people around me? The books written in Iran in the last 200 years are generally the reasons for backwardness . Be careful , hey, I tell him you eat junk, you get fat, eat junk, dad, why do you eat junk, can I tell him, dad, let's eat healthy food, we'll be healthy, let's eat healthy food, healthy food brings health. None of them are like you. In the first one, I didn't say that sir, you 're junk and fat. In the second one, I didn't say that you're healthy and healthy. Both points to the same problem. Do you want to work on his mind, which word will stay in his brain when he repeats it, healthy food and health or garbage and obesity ? My claim is that if I say eat healthy food , you will stay healthy. They can't fix it. I come out of the house and say that the weather will improve one day and we will see the weather one day. This is a positive meaning. This does not mean not seeing air pollution. It is acceptance. I will take a breath of fresh air, but one day a person will take it, just as we overcame any challenge throughout history. See, in our words, as Iranians, I am speaking of myself. Yesterday we were sitting and discussing behind another child, he was talking about the ecosystem. He said, "I said only we are good. I saw that I sit in every group and talk behind everyone. The result is that only we are good, not we are good. When you have 5 aspects of different people, it means only I'm fine, I'm telling myself, I'm talking about Iran and I 'm talking about Iran. Right now, I 'm saying that we should empower Iran. God, people are listening to this. You are positive. Instead of saying solve this problem , make this a challenge. If they stop talking about Iran, about me, about my wife, about my child, about my company , I promise, I do not promise, Iran will be prosperous . I say, I will talk about any mediating issue, I promise, I don't promise, that guy will be healthy and well, I promise that I personally will deal with that issue with strength and calmness, I promise you, try it, see if it's fun, it really tastes like it, try it, throw these words around you, try it, see what happens in your practice, in practice, not me, yes, no, let's go straight, you and my wife, with my wife, with the oven, right now, right now, this is the podcast. Take a test with one of us and see how you feel. This is a favor to me, not a favor to my wife, not a favor to my assumption, not a favor to my company, not a favor to the society and Iran, not to myself. The point you are making is fine at all, because sometimes I even argue that this or that . The problem is because I'm the same one, I'm that grumbling person. Well, sometimes I gave myself a lot of credit and credit. How realistic are you, without any filter, without a bit of this and that around it? You're right. It's important how you say it, but see no profit. That means I'm going to lose. That's what I want to say. Well done, you 're going to suffer at all. I mean, sir, let's make it a fic, because the fic has at least a smoothness. What do you really care about? I see, you look at what comes out of you, every shower is unreal, it is real in the bed of contraction, this is real in the bed and of our expanding fabric, both of them are unreal . To be the agent of change, you have to be yourself. It's like a chicken and an egg. First you have this. Then you gain confidence. Or first, confidence is like a chicken and the chicken first. Was it the chicken or the chicken first? Yes, you have to do something. Confidence comes. You can't say I don't have confidence. If you want to do something, you shouldn't be a victim, and if you want to do something, you shouldn't be a victim. We were having dinner. You mentioned the lunch. I want to mention Dan Vahdat. These three days really made a deep impression on me. Salutations to Sharaf Saeed and what a pity that we are still deprived of Saeed in Iran. May God bless you with an opportunity. Rahmani, yes, Saeed Rahmani, sir, we should have a trillion dollars. No, we should have 3 trillion dollars. Look, I got so much power. I didn't have that much space in my mind. I came to Dubai. Nothing happened in Tehran. Now, of course, during this period of negotiations, something really happened. But underground, nothing happened, but nothing happened on the ground. I'm afraid to speak English. Well, Dad, look, what are you doing ? Well, where is my camera? Tell me what you're doing. Look, it's interesting. I don't want to change the situation at all, but people think that you're talking about the English word. Do you speak Farsi? Well, this word that we have in Khobe is Farsi. Now I will Arash, for example, how many days did we think he spoke English? Dad, this is a common word here. We are forced to change ourselves because we need to advance in technology so that we can create Persian words. I will say one sentence and then I will come to Dan. Some time ago, I was reading Time of Revolution . How to make the fur of that farahizdiyeh, that glory, that greatness of Hamafar, Dad, you told the guy that Hamafar is going to do the job, you don't need to do anything or, for example, pay attention to the reporter's words. Some things are very bad for us. He was a reporter. I am a reporter . My English is not that good at all, but it either has an IST at the end or an IR . Nanava is absolutely wonderful Farsi. I would like to use it myself. Close the parentheses. Let's go back to Dan. This conversation opened my mind. 3 trillion dollars means 8 times the current GDP. I felt really strong. I felt that the father is saying, sir, it's me. Come, come together. Our work is long. We are now, as a teacher said, we are the only ones. We are together with the children who do cultural work, writing work Celebrity in this way, to influence us and start the narrative and the narrative of changing the soil of this country to what I think has gone wrong, that this country has faced every challenge in the past few thousand years, the Afghans have gone, I don't know, the Mugha, every challenge has come, we went and passed it and made an opening and glory out of it, sir, we can. The media spends money on the narrative of destruction. Money is spent on the narrative of destruction. It's not a coincidence, even though it was before me, it was before my revolution. It's been 2,300 years since the narrative. I say that you open any intellectual book with good intentions. Salute to them. They are many to serve. I say that if we shape the narrative, sir, we create an opening after any challenge. It's a favor to myself. Be careful. I'm favoring myself first, because when I look at you like this, I saw you. You buy a car in a certain color, for example red. You see something similar to your car on the street. If you believe that this is a self- fulfilling prophecy, everyone is corrupt. You go to the office. There are 5 corrupt people, one healthy. Which one do you see? You see the corrupt because you believe that all corrupt people are healthy at all. He says, "Come to me. You say that you are a burnt-out father. He wants to come and take a bribe from me because you believe this. This is your own prophecy." But if you believe that there are healthy people and noble and capable people, my experience says that you will find them. You go and see them. It's like you see yourself in your car. Somewhere , the brain works like this. Now, I can't say what I did in the field of self-knowledge and on a 10-12-year journey, I became a professional. It tells me that the brain works like this . It is for predicting the future, and if I were to believe that sir, he cannot work like this, naturally, this will lead to him standing up. That's all I'm saying. Greetings to Sharaftan. I really appreciate Danush's podcast. Yes, yes, I went to see it. I downloaded 119 episodes with you. I will definitely listen to it on the way back, but I want to promise here that I am in the process of achieving a GDP of 3 trillion dollars, and we will stand by this. Let's do it. This work is not up to the people and managers. It is the work of demons who taught Jamshid to read and write and teach architecture and arithmetic and math, where the ministries became courts and their managers became devas . Sometimes I tell the children that we are devas . Let's put our tongues in order to make this happen, and this requires a small group of bigots who are working, and there are many political theories that say, sir, a bigoted minority, then a militant majority will come, and we have to work, and I have seen in my experience that other people will come along because their interests are the interests of every Iranian, anywhere in the world, where you are not in Iran . In the East, in Dubai, the interests of each individual are different, and in any way, it is in Persian that this happens, it can be called Chapter, you know, yes, because, for example, in the first period, it was Chapter One, now it is Chapter Two, you know, I talked to you because of the startup, that is, I am the podcast of the 16th floor, for example, now I associate it with startups, but I'm not talking about startups , you know, startups, but it became an excuse, it became Willy, it made you see that you really get to internal issues, that is, how to talk to people, how to get along with people, then even projects in mining, finding meaning, talking in the scale of your country . He used to say that if you want to grow your company, there is no other way than to grow yourself, so why does it remain a religion? Yes, you train yourself, you work on yourself, when you automate, more capable people will work with you. If I was the same person who ran amok, I would have studied. It didn't work for me . Naturally , I worked on myself for 12 years. I'm not saying I got much better. When it was difficult, I said that they will iron you, you will clean yourself, now I am not a fashion to clean up, the same 55 is a huge transformation of me, I claim that you work in a startup because it is not a job that drives you, it is a work in which you have to work with people, you work with first-class people, in your startup work, you are personally inevitable to grow and transform yourself, yes, this startup is really for that, that is why I remember Steve I heard Jobs in his speech. It was very interesting. He said that we are the biggest startup in the world. Because we gather 8 people, we divide the work. Everyone goes about their own work in the way they work, and the assets of the company and the factory are not the land. I don't know the people who were interested in sitting at the table . I know which part I am talking about. Star N Wed, you mean one aspect, you said it like this, I have a different understanding of that now and I say that now startups are necessarily talking about code and IA and it's not at all. Well, now, all of my Unikon are from this angle. I don't know singles, I don't know products, I don't know marketing. We used to have Hamid Mashrout and Hamid was warm-hearted. Hamid Mohammadi, the manager of Digikala, always accepted us with a pleasant face. He said to Hamid, "Sir, why do you know so much about everything, he doesn't know anything?" Then Hamid was shocked, "What are you talking about, Dad?" It's hard to say the above, but I was a pilgrim from the beginning, a bazaar pilgrim who was looking for business, and like everyone else, I was actually able to develop myself and make an opening out of it. Are you working now? I am now the CEO of the group, but since I came from Alibaba, my workload has decreased a lot. I go to the gym in the morning since the day I arrived. I go to the gym in the morning. It's a very interesting experience. I'll tell you briefly. The interesting experience of the gym is that I used to go. I have a very cool coach. From there, he says, do 20 more, well, the pressure is on. I had not been to the gym much in my life. I didn't know he was getting angry. I said, "Oh, you're hurting yourself." He said, "Yes, we're hurting. What do you mean , you're hurting?" He said, "Look, in order for your muscles to form, you have to push. This capillary will break. Well, this is naturally an injury to the body, but bigger muscles and more veins will be formed in front of it, and this is a kind of injury, of course, but it's an injury that you have." You do it to get stronger, then I was going to see you, I don't want to go. Why do I have to go? For example, I have to beg to come out. What I saw, I realized. Now, it's my discovery. It's a first-hand experience. Maybe everyone has a different experience. I saw that you can't grow unless you put a lot of pressure in the place where the muscles are made. That's where you can no longer remember. 1401 I explained that night . I saw how difficult it is to build a job where you can't anymore, you have to continue. By the way, the great thing about startups is that you grow your brain muscles, that's where you go beyond your beliefs, that's where the opening is created, that's where you are cleansed . I don't hit him. If you want to be a coach, you don't want to kill someone. Violence is necessary, not necessarily physical violence, not necessarily verbal violence. If this is the level of this table, give me a file and I'll grind it. It's rough, rough. They say the level is rough. If you want to bring a person, this person needs to be trained. Violence does not mean physical or verbal violence, it means strictness to get him to where he says. I can't, sir, this is our conversation, I don't accept it at all, bear it there, this is the same conversation that you are talking about a lot of things . I go to the gym, it's a great experience for me, it's a great experience for me. It's a great experience for me. Now, I'm doing leadership work. Actually, we do something in the field of personal development. The leadership course is what I'm doing. He tells me that he's in your brain. I need to work on your brain. They really say, Jim. I really like horse riding. I really like my teacher Maziar. He's really a first-class person. I like both of them very much. Now I jump 125, 115 to 12 25. This year, God willing, I will reach 135 by the end of the year, which is a big job . Who gave you such a permission, sir, but there is nothing wrong with young people, I will leave it for a long time. Well, it is a group work. Anyway, the same companies that we have, we start small startups. The good thing about startups is that you don't have to go and build a building to see if it works well or not . We found out and saw that our total failures were a huge amount. 300,400 thousand dollars have cost us all these years. It is a big number, but compared to Alibaba, it is very small. That is why I am more interested in this work because I want you not to let this go. When you created Alibaba, when did you attract capital and who are your investors now? In 1993, when the website came up, we took the first round from the technology dice fund. Around that time, for example, it was one and a half million, 2 million dollars. I think we took the next round from Sarava at the rate of that time. In fact, it happened in 96 and 97, 97, due to the increase in the dollar rate, half of their investment was done . In this Saraba ecosystem, it was a great experience for me, which is still going on. I mean, still being with Saeed is really a learning experience for me. Saeed is really a teacher and an alley for me, and I really appreciate him. He is a first-class person. We also invested in these two attractive places, and we were always attracting capital during these years, but it never happened again. We went, but Alibaba is very generous, I did all this work with Alibaba, even though Tawheed cut off my hands, but maybe Tawheed's decision is over, but I really like Jabwa to take us to the stock market, but I think if we want to do this in two or three years, there is no rush. How different is the size of our Jabwa now from the size of our Alibaba Jaba now, in terms of value and in terms of ZPC, and that is, the profit margin it gives, I can say between 50 70 is Alibaba, how much do you think it is worth in dollars? How much do you think Valsion is worth now? How much do you think Alibaba is worth right now? How much is our job worth? Look at the group. If I want to say, we ourselves want to sell 200 million dollars, but we don't sell. I am not really in a place today where anyone will come to me . Let's put it up because he wanted to buy it from the others, and we bought 10 from the likes of Hossam, who bought from the others, we also bought 10. I want to know the company, for example, Alibaba is close to 50 million dollars, about Javabama, for example, 35 to 40 million dollars for buses and airlines, and this is the same. We bought some on the way and brought the bus. We entered it for the Flexbus model. I think it's the same as the Velo, and the business model. If you want to put it under 4 million dollars, what do you think about it? Now I know that someone who is listening says, for example, "Wow, their company has 200 million dollars." It's okay, but we've already talked about the tail, I didn't say anything else, this tail only made 20 million, you know, I'll tell you that it's the first day of my office, it's called the first day, and if I want to tell you how I feel, I'll say that it's really interesting. After our first meeting, we got together with the kids. Our morals have improved, our new teammates, as Ahmad says, we have nuclear fusion, Ahmed, Shayan , Saeed, Toheed, Sepehr and these kids who sit around that table have nuclear fusion. We really got along very well . Every single person in Iran should actually do a great job. I also talked to you in the field of a social startup. Ramona and I are doing a great job there. If we get a chance, let's talk about it again with Fatemeh. It's a huge job and it will eliminate orphanages and nurseries in Iran with welfare assistance. In fact, we are doing this. It's wonderful today, if someone goes to Amina's nursery, they can say it's almost empty , it's almost empty, which according to research is empty, for example, 400 and you've had children, now there are 30 or 40 of them, of which there are 340 babies. We started this a year ago, for example, I can say 7 years ago in 1997, not before, we started together in 1996, and at the height of the corona virus, we kept all these things that we did. We had a dream that we continued that dream in a way. We met, but I'll take time out of it, but you're hot, it was a great experience, no, Dad, he 's in a good mood. Now we need to sit down, we need to sit down and talk more, and I think even this trip is something that was very interesting to me, especially today, when we named it Chapter D. Now, I mean, I said this, this story is how much reflection we had, for example, this time. We didn't or together that much, maybe we weren't friends now, for example, we know how much you are Saeed Saeed, in my opinion, that chapter of Saeed's property means that I feel that it all comes from Saeed himself, we are a reflection of Saeed, and he was really warm, he brought us here, he brought the children, he brought Ali Reza Aighi, he brought Denusho, he brought him. When you said, Ahmed, Danosh is really hot, you are very hot. You are very hot. You are going to the airport. Yes, I am going back. You know that my flight was tonight. My flight was tonight with Mohsen. I was going back to Canada, but I have not yet. I will travel somewhere with the same ticket that I booked. I must return. Haji, I am also an exception.