The giant could throw back an arm or if the head wasn't severed, he could repair himself. The worst death you could give a royale in the ancient world was a beheading. Why?
Because they would not be able to go to the place they wanted to go to after they died. I am blown away by this guy. Nimrod is saying that if God gets out of line again, he's going to go into heaven and kill God. AI is part of this angelic technology that we're talking about.
It's not the knowledge, it's how it's going to be used. The most polytheistic religion ever in history is going to be New Age because it believes that we're all gods. There's billions of them.
It seems to me that the Germans were having help. They said that they received the knowledge from their celestial white brotherhood or spirit guides or aliens or however you want to describe them. How do we know that? A, they said it. B, they wouldn't let them talk about their occult beliefs in Nuremberg and other trials because they didn't want to allow the ability to have them plead insanity after putting that on the table.
Hey, before you hop into this one, we have a special guest for you today. And I just want to let you know, we have two episodes with this person. He's in Nashville. We convinced him to leave his comfortable home and come to the frigid. winter snow storm that's happening in nashville right now um and we talk about all sorts of crazy stuff i'm just gonna warn you right now like i somehow like forgot what i was supposed to ask him and started asking him about weird stuff um and it's fascinating so we're gonna let go of where i wanted to know about for some reason vampires and crazy stuff it's all based in in biblical history and he validates at such a high level All the stories we read, and sometimes we gloss over what they mean, the intricacies and how it puts together a chronological picture of where we are today.
There is a switch that we did in the order of these, so here's what that means. We're releasing this one first for several reasons, and there will be a more in-depth backstory and backgrounds where we're going to go way deeper, specifically into old... history, the Nephilim, the flood. But today, what we're talking about in this episode is really just kind of all of it together. His name is Gary Wayne.
You should check out his books. They're online. You should buy them. They are fascinating. But before we do, hop into this episode.
Let us know if you have any questions. Love you guys. Everyone wants to get to the high places, but if you want to go high, you first have to go deep.
What's up guys? Welcome back to the deep end. We got a treat for you.
Jake, how you feel? So good. Are you excited? Pumped.
You ready? Yes. To eat your Wheaties?
I wish. You know what that means, right? I know what Wheaties are.
Okay. I just like the sugary kind. All right.
We have again with us Gary Wayne from Canada. Gary's the bestselling author of two books. They're both on Genesis 6. The first one, what you would, the first Genesis 6 is more of a primer and then the second one goes way deeper.
Is that accurate? They're both deep. How do you delineate between the two?
I would delineate between the two as book two is specifically targeted at Christians. So, if you want to understand what's really going on in the Old Testament from the Old Testament perspective, you want to know how that's going to connect into end-time prophecy, you want to understand the hierarchy of the invisible ones and the visible ones, this is going to take you deeper and show you more of what you've never been talked about to before. but show you how it makes sense. And it's going to help you make sense of this world based on what the Bible is telling us.
Beautiful. I've read the first one. Now I have the second one on my reading list.
You're a Christian contrarian, which I love because you're also from Canada. I don't know how you fit in with your peers up there. Contrarians are everywhere down here, but Canada seems a little lit. Do you get in fights often? Bar fights?
Well, when I was young, I might have. Yeah. It's been rumored to be that way when I was younger.
But no, I think, you know, in Canada, it's not a topic that is discussed a lot. There's no churches for Christians to go to. There's no real organizations on this sort of topic.
So Canadians who start to dig deeper into the Bible will tend to look across the border. And. They're always looking for how do we connect more with people who have the same type of interest, but it's slow to catch on.
Yeah. Well, I'm glad that you're leading the charge and you're here to teach us. One thing is different about you is you've read pretty much every single religious text from the Quran, the Bible, the Bhagavad Gita.
And I would advise people to, if you do that type of research and reading, put on all the armor of God, because you're going right into the dragon's den, so to speak, and you're reading their literature, and it can be seducing. And I use that term in a way that you can relate to the Bible in terms of being seduced away. Yeah. And it sounds good at first, but if you dig deeper. It becomes a little bit more inconsistent, and it's always about the pantheon of the gods, and it is something that starts to really sink in that this is a counterfeit of unimagined proportions done inexplicably all around the world that isn't accounted for.
And so it's a realization. So... yes learn more but make sure you're ready for it um because you're going to need it and uh if you're reading that sort of stuff you might be more open to spiritual attacks because you're opening a door there so you have to be able to close that door or if you're not a contrarian just watch the deep end and we'll just give it to you yeah um let's talk i'm about to jump straight into the any anything you need to say before i just take us underwater no okay The Nephilim, how do they show up in modern times? In your book, you talk about World War II. You talk about even the, like, Hitler and who he wanted to be.
Can you give us some context into how we can start seeing this puzzle? Yeah, so if you look at Hans Harberger, he's one of the spiritual sort of mentors and theorists for the whole Nazi regime. And he's really taken in under the arms of the Nazis because He wrote a book that basically traces the genealogy back to giants from the German race, so it becomes a significant sort of piece for it. And they call themselves Aryans. And Indo-Aryan, Indo-European, is the term for giants that's used in the secular and Gnostic world.
regularly as they're talking about it as more of a historical perspective both before and after the flood so there's a direct connection there and they're drawing on blonde hair blue-eyed aryans and so typically giants had blonde hair and blue eyes or red hair and hazel eyes as the common nature and there's another one that i talk about book two that are the dark-haired giants those are the predominant traits and that They descend from an Atlantis-like civilization who described those giants the same way in that mythology and mythos. And so when we look at how they look at giants, they look at the Aryans as being degraded over time through intermarriage. And this is talking about a post-Diluvian scenario with giants that show up after the flood. So one of the ways that we can sort of... get a little bit of veracity to behind the belief system of modern giants being royales and being a significant part to the sponsorship of the National Socialist regime in Germany is the understanding that they keep genealogies.
They keep their genealogies as royales all the way back into prehistory and back to a specific Nephilim or Raphael patriarch into a specific fallen angel or a celestial mafia godfather as i like to talk about them tongue in cheek how do they even find it well they've been keeping the records all the way through yeah it's part of their cult it's where they fit in the hierarchy of bloodlines all over the world so king charles for example formerly prince charles he's on record as talking about descending from vladimir the great you Sorry, not Vladimir the Great, Vladimir the Impaler out of the Romanian Transylvania region. And that's interesting because he has those genealogies that go back through the Hanover dynasty. They changed their names from Hanover to Windsor in World War I. And it goes back to the individual that Dracula, meaning son of a dragon or a seraphim, is named after.
A being the suffix for a son. And that it doesn't stop there, that that bloodline takes their genealogies back to a Scythian tribe or an Indo-Aryan tribe after the flood. That's called the Egrithy. And there's another branch that is scion in there that goes back to another fallen angel, Tamiel or Chazadea, as he's listed in the Book of Enoch. But on the other side, on the patriarchal side, it goes back to Hercules.
who's the son of Zeus, who married Elkmeni, a human female that produced Hercules. And that's part of the Herculides bloodline, or the Gyges kings after the flood, and it's this royal bloodline. And they have the genealogies to back this up.
So I was asked several times early on, is, you know, how do we... How do we know that's true? And do you believe them? And I'm going, it doesn't really matter whether I believe them. It's what they believe that matters, and it's what they do with that belief system that we need to be interested in and be aware of, because they're working an agenda based on that belief system.
So roll this forward back to the Nazis. They take their genealogies and are trying to recreate the Superman. which is a superhero, and heroes were giants in Greek mythology, the demigods, and they're trying to recreate that genealogical history in their research to recreate the new man, in other words, for a new Nephilim.
And they're going to do that going forward in the Nazi regime by eugenics and through intermarrying so that they can somehow recreate the spark of the divine. that they're looking for en masse. We might know that in the New Age lingo in political speeches as a thousand points of light. It's the spark of the fallen angels of that counterfeit spirit that they're looking for.
So they were trying to do that. And why would the Nazis do that? Well, we can look at World War II and the Nazis as an end-time archetype for us to look at, or an analogy to look at. It has all the essence of what's coming. They were trying to create a modern Nephilim, which is going to be part of the end time somehow, some way, with what we had just talked about.
The Fuhrer is introduced in their literature from Wagner, or from the literature that they study, and that it wasn't Wagner, it's another artist, it doesn't really matter, but Fuhrer is their messiah as it's raised to. So he positions himself. As a messiah, they will be trying to set up a world government and a thousand-year Reich, with the Third Reich that they're trying to set up.
So it's a counterfeit millennium that they're trying to set up. They create the Reich Church in 1933 to formalize their new religion that they call Areosophy, which is theosophy and... völkisch ideology and arianism that's combined to make ariosophy. Theosophy is introduced as an extension out of Gnosticism and the secret societies into Germany in the late 1800s. Blavsky is the one who popularizes it worldwide, but they put their own völkisch understanding of that or völkisch and real ideology onto that belief system to create their new religion.
So the Nazi regime and its roots is going to go back to perversion, so to speak, of theosophy into a specific ariosophy or Arianism and a hatred of Jewish people, and the giants were created to destroy God's people, so it's part of that belief system, and secret societies, so you're going to have, in secret societies, their religion is Gnosticism, so it's just an extension of the same thing, so... Freemasonry and Rosicrucian is a significant part of the formation of the political complex for the hegemony in Germany. And you're going to have people like von List, who's going to create the Arnhemmin order in the early 1900s, and then in 1907, von List. when Lievensberg is going to create the new temple, then that's going to form by 1912 and merge with Aryan Völkisch ideology to form the Germanic Orden secret society. That's going to make the way for the Thule, or Thule society, as a lot of people would pronounce it, which is the ancient Atlantis in the Norse and German mythology that Hitler is going to be initiated into.
So you have this... this complex work that we could go into a lot more details about. I'm just trying to lay the table of what we can look for the end time that they're looking to put this world government in place with this polytheist ancient form of the religion that goes back to before the flood in control.
To recreate it. Yeah. To bring in a counterfeit millennium. And then you have a whole. of the jewish people so roll that forward to the end time as well with the tribulation of the saint of the saints and the great tribulation and you're seeing a similar kind of thing that we can expect for the end time so theosophy just for people who haven't heard that uh says there's a philosophical spiritual movement that seeks to explore the underlying truths of existence blending insights from religion science and philosophy emphasizing the search for divine wisdom the unity of all life and transcending the boundaries of individual religions and belief systems like a tethering together would would hermeneutics or um kabbalah be examples of of a theosophic it's all part of it so theosophy you break that down theos god and sophia the mother goddess So you're actually getting a male and female dualism that's in the pantheon within that word.
And it would also be understood the wisdom of God. But in their understanding, it wouldn't be God singular. It would be God's plural.
So this is that ancient knowledge of polytheism as being a knowledge cult. So now that we're on the topic of World War II. By the way, you're going to have to wrangle control from us if, because he just talked about World War II, and I know we were going to do it quick, but now I don't want to do it quick.
I want to, like, go into it. Let's go into it. It's Gary's fault, really. I've studied a lot of World War II. Yeah.
It seems to me that the Germans were having help. Yeah. The technology they were creating.
I mean, how they didn't bulldoze the whole world. I think that... Either God intervened or Hitler went crazy or some sort of both. But do you see that in history?
Like he was getting downloads somewhere. Something was giving him stuff. They're having information provided for them. And they said that they received the knowledge from their celestial white brotherhood or spirit guides or aliens or however you want to describe them.
And at the Rosicrucian level, they're in constant level of communication. And. That's where it's important to understand how the secret societies sort of fit into the creation of national socialism, which is a left-wing movement, not a right-wing movement that's been reimagined so that people get sort of confused.
And so when we look at the help that they were having, how do we know that? Well, it's A, they said it. B, they wouldn't let them talk about their occult beliefs in Nuremberg and other trials because… They didn't want to allow the ability to have them plead insanity after putting that on the table.
And so Winston Churchill and the prosecutors said, no, we don't want to allow that. Oh, wow. And so when you look now at where did they get the technology and information for to create the Tiger and Panzer tanks, which is the same format of tank that's used to this day.
that was way ahead of any other technology around the world and was so far superior, if they could produce enough of these and other weapons, they would have won the war. They received jet engine technology. They received rocket engine technology.
They received whatever this bell-shaped technology was that some people speculate on might have been an interdimensional. or a time-traveling device or something like that, that sort of disappeared. It's on the records, but nobody knows, at least on the declassified records, as to what happened. Where did the blitzkrieg strategy come from?
Out of nowhere, just in time for all of this new technology. And it was being fed to them because... Hitler you could look at as an Antichrist wannabe. And biblically, we're told that the Antichrist spirit has been with us all the time, as the Epistles of John talks about. And it's always lurking, always looking for a possible Antichrist figure.
So we see beast empires that rise up through the world in the post-Diluvian Empire. And so whether or not it's Nebuchadnezzar that begins with the prophecies in Daniel 2 and 7 and 8, and will extend into Revelation with the seventh empire, you have Antichrist wannabe type figures there. Alexander would be another terrific one.
And... We sort of get an understanding with the inference that is being discussed with Michael in the book of Daniel that he's going to fight against the beast empires, not from them coming, but just to fight against them. And seemingly it seems to be to prevent the Antichrist to come before the ordained time. So when Antichrist rolls forward again, now as we look into the end time, he rises to power at the midpoint of the last seven years at the abomination.
In Daniel 12, which is talking about the last three and a half years, Michael is seen sitting. So the implication is, is he stands up again to do the war in heaven that Revelation is going to talk about with, again, three and a half years mentioned for the timing at the time of the abomination after Judea flees to the wilderness. And so it seems like Michael is part of what's restraining or the complete restrainer, but certainly is working actively to make sure the Antichrist doesn't come.
And he's withholding, as it's described in the KGV Bible in those accounts about Michael. And so, all these Antichrist wannabes are subject to being, let's call it being possessed versus being an avatar of an avatar, because I think it's too soon. They're chained to a divine timeline. Well, they don't want to be. But they are.
That's the idea is like at some point the time is appropriate. And when the next possession or whatever happens, Michael's no longer restraining. Yes.
And they want to bring about what I call the rendezvous of destiny in book one. They want to bring about the end time before it's ordained time. And they keep doubling down to try and do that, but they're always frustrated. There is an ordained time when he can come just before Jesus comes. And he comes.
But not till then. And we want to be careful as well. It's too easy to call every president that comes along an Antichrist. All we do is we lose our credibility when we get ahead of ourselves on event chronology.
And Jesus specifically warned us, and the epistles of John reminds us, and works in perfect harmony with what Jesus said, that there will be multiple Antichrists. in the end time so we want to be careful um but that doesn't mean we shouldn't anticipate an antichrist coming but there's going to be many that we're going to have to be concerned with i feel like it when i when i look i haven't studied nearly as much as you have but when it seems like uh the third reich was potentially the closest like yeah even the pharmakia that they were they had access to like the i don't i'm sure you've read about taboon which is the nerve agent chemical nerve agent that they had that somehow they just never used it they had so many different opportunities and so that had to have been fed from somewhere they wouldn't have it advanced too quickly and out of nowhere so i think it's akin to what we're seeing today i do think we're being fed a ramp up of knowledge to get us to the level where we will believe that we can stand against, as a human race, against the evil god of the Bible as he's portrayed by the polytheist forces. And that if they don't get us to that level, that is destruction by fire of planet capability, and even beyond that, which is going to involve, I think, interdimensional aspect to the technology, then people won't say this.
makes sense to do this and so i think it's just part of the overall strategy got it jake you good i'm having you alive there's so much context i don't i still don't have in terms of like even like the nerve agent i don't know what that means so i'm kind of just listening and trying to process all at once as i'm listening they basically could have killed the whole world oh good to know yeah the missile technology they had was so far ahead of its time that it's It's almost shocking when you look through history. It's shocking that the Allies were able to even win. Yeah, they were developing a technology with the missiles that over a little bit more time could have gone intercontinental. And the ramp up was getting close to be able to do that. So they're also working on atomic energy.
And they had the chemical aspect to it as well. So they could have created a destruction worldwide in a couple of different ways. if they had enough time to produce enough of these weapons.
And the understanding of the knowledge that they were being provided is very much understated in the official records. But they were researching in all of these different branches. And pharmakia, as I think that you're kind of referring to, pharmakia, pharmakos, and pharmakos from Book of Revelation, is the sorceries. And the sorceries is what Babylon deceives the world with, which is the right church.
ariosophy religion that they were trying to bring yeah to bring that about so it's going to be part of that and babylon deceives the world through pharmakia yeah through sorceries and it can mean not only magic spells as it's also translated into english's but it also means pharmaceuticals which is the greek etymological root for pharmaceuticals that we have to this day and that includes legal and illegal and also all forms of alchemy, which is ultimately an extension thereof. So we can imagine a world that could be using magic spells, yes, but also seducing the people in terms of drugging them down in a way that prepares them to accept the new religion. Whoa, too close to home.
Yeah. You catch it? You don't understand. Do you understand?
well we can't say it but it starts with a v and ends with in yes has to do with pestilences we can say that yeah we can't say that or like um um rfk jr talking about fluoride in the water he ain't he's i'm trying he's gonna catch i'm really trying we need to get you a notebook Yeah, so that's all part of that technology, and that technology is being fast-tracked into digital technology that can be administered through technology that can change all aspects, not only cure everything or change anything, but not just at the gene level as they're going to advance it, but at the quantum level. Well, the last, Jake, I'm going to circle back to you in a second. People are going to get mad at me if I treat you that way.
Oh, you got it. oh you got it okay the last rendition of this um is gene altering which was the uh the pandemic um can i follow you on a thread for a second sure the um so okay let's put let's put the third reich in a box for a second you And we'll come back to it. I just have an off the cuff, random question.
Vampires. Yeah. Did vampires come from the Nephilim?
They, they real like. Well, vampires are real in the occult. Dracula is a more modern type of the literature that's going to hold the belief system and their history within it. So you have Dracula, for example, as a son of a dragon. It goes back to Greek for dracont and draconta, which means watcher, as in watcher angel.
Yes. What the crap, man? It's everywhere.
People just don't recognize. the links of it, and of course the giants, both before and after the flood, and secret societies probably at the adept level even today, would drink blood. And they were drinking blood to extend their life after Genesis 6-3 shortened all lifespan to 120 years, and they also used it secondarily to provide additional cognitive abilities. And so... They preyed on humans not only to eat them before the flood, but to drink their blood.
And then after the flood, they had to do things a little bit more in secrecy as they were needing humankind to survive because they had a fertility issue after the flood. And they required to not go extinct to intermarry. So they have to do a lot of this in secret. But blood rituals has been part of polytheism right from the beginning and at the adept level. still is.
So now you have the drinking of the blood to try and give you that thing that they're seeking is being a god in the physical world. They can't recreate godhood into the realm of heaven, but they can try and bring back the immortal Nephilim concept by having a body that's going to last forever or replacement bodies to go with it with that spirit force. particularly the disembodied spirits, that they're really trying to create these oikitarians for, dwelling place for spirits, is the definition of an oikitarian, so that they can rule the world going forward and live in the world going forward. So… Dude, I'm like really off my leash right now.
I know. I don't feel like I have the requisite intellect to keep up to track. You're doing great.
Were there quality levels to the types of blood? For example, if there was a lot of epinephrine or trauma in the blood, was it more? valuable um unfortunately there is a hierarchy to the preference of the of the blood the more innocent the better so you can imagine some rituals from the past where virgins were murdered but particularly you take that all the way back to baby sacrifices, particularly which was common and the most brutal amongst the Balim council in the middle, in the covenant land region that they were practicing that, and that would be the most precious.
And that they believe that they can absorb that spirit because they believe, and biblically, I don't believe that they, biblically, they can do this, but biblically it says the life is in the blood. So that's why they're trying to access to it. Blood drinking also has a significant meaning to them in terms of the matriarchal aspect and the relationship to the moon and the menstrual cycle and the blood thereof.
They call that starfire in the occult. Again, to do the same kinds of things, but for separate rituals. They are a blood cult.
And they call that, in the National Socialist regime, the Vriel, which was a Rosicrucian concept that goes back to before the flood, which is, again, showing another representation of secret society influence amongst National Socialists. And that they believed there was something special in the blood that, if they could consume that, they could recreate, again, in part, the superhumans or the... demigods of ages past so when we look at how blood fits into their ideology it comes at the expense of humans so it's a corrupted uh it's another counterfeit it's a yeah a very evil counterfeit yeah there's another allegory that goes with it it's from the matriarchal side so the allegorical bloodline on the male side is the dragon bloodline or the raven bloodline dragon's the most common On the female side, it's the fairy blood or the owl blood, and fairy being more common on the matriarchal side. Now, they have a process in the occult called the quickening, and they sort of take that from the Bible in terms of the KGV language when Jesus was crucified and was raised back into heaven.
And so they use that as a quickening, as in, if people are familiar with the old series, I don't know, I'm an ancient person, but there was the Highlander series of movies and TV series where they had the quickening, and that's where they took the energy, the spiritual life force in that process after cutting their head off, which was a typical way you wanted to keep a giant dead. Because they had the ability to heal themselves. Particularly as you take that back to the Raphaim after the flood and the definitions of their name in the original Hebrew that produces the word Rapha, which is 7495, which is to heal or being a doctor, but mostly to heal. 7496 is the other part, which is the disembodied spirit, the demon spirit.
Those are the. we're giving us strong's numbers correct yes those are strong's and the strong's concordance 7 497 is the word giant and then after that are names of people named rafa which would be descendants of the giants so we get the term beth rafa as a house of a bloodline a dynastic bloodline in in the old testament as well it's interesting that like the bible specifically mentions like david cut off goliath's head yeah it must have been like the you just you have to do that Yeah, look at all of the details. So he took five stones, not because he thought he was going to miss, but Goliath had four other brothers, and Goliath was also the king of Gath, and there was a pentapolis of five cities of the city-state complex. He thought he might have to kill either four of his brothers or four other kings that day, so he took five stones.
That rock going through the head would kill. any individual. It was probably one of the most lethal weapons and most accurate weapons of the ancient times, but he doesn't take that for granted because this is a giant that could throw back an arm or if it wasn't the head wasn't severed he could repair himself and so he chops off the head with goliath's own sword and then raises it up not only to israel but to the philistines and the sign saying he's officially dead he is not coming back yeah and it's the worst death you could give a royale in the ancient world was a beheading why because they would not be able to go to the place they wanted to go to after they died. So if you look at most polytheist rituals, the Ugaritic text is a good one, the Egyptian text is, but they're all kind of similar with a few nuances. So in the Ugaritic text when a Raphaim dynastic king giant died, He would be paraded into the other world, or Sheol, or Hades, by the other Rephaim kings to be delivered to live with the gods, and then their belief system to be like a god, just as Osiris is, in allegorical terms, raised to Orion, where all the angels and the gods are.
He would be raised to godlike sort of status after his death. And so in Egyptian stories and rituals, it was on a boat that sailed on a river. Greek had a similar one of this river that went into Hades and Sheol.
So if they had their heads chopped off, they were either going to roam the earth as in dry places, as Jesus describes these devils, which is poorly translated, in my opinion. The word is daemon, or the Greek... word in the New Testament for demon, not diabolos, which is the word used for the devil, for Satan.
It's a distinctly different word, translated the same way. But we should understand these as the same as the evil and unclean spirits that Jesus is depossessing. And these are not fallen angels, these are the disembodied spirits.
And so... When we look at where they could go, there would be what Jesus describes as like being in dry places and needing a body to go into to have rest or to interact with the world. So they're going to suppress the host, right?
It's not a symbiotic relationship versus what an avatar relationship would be more symbiotic, where they're adding power and wisdom and stuff to them in that belief system. And so... When we look at where else they would go, we should go to Ezekiel 32. We have other references that would be in like in Isaiah 14 and elsewhere. But it's talking about the terrible ones who did terrible things to humankind in the time of Nebuchadnezzar, who is the terrible of nations. And the terrible ones, which are described as the mighty ones in the sides of the pit.
prison in Sheol or Hades are talking to Pharaoh, another terrible one, and a royal, along with the mighty, which is the Hebrew El in that translation, so fallen angels and giant demon spirits, the worst of them, that are talking to Pharaoh. So that's where they didn't want to go. They wanted to get to where their gods are. And the other scary thing to keep in mind...
These terrible ones are ones that are coming out of the pit prison just before the midpoint of the last seven years with the opening of the pit prison in Revelation 9, along with the fallen angels who did the most horrible things to humankind and violated the laws of creation and would have blasphemed the Holy Spirit as being coming like a mother goddess would be one of those sins. Because in polytheism, the mother goddess is... their cognate being for the Holy Spirit.
And those are all coming out of the pit prison just before the midpoint of the seven years and just before Antichrist comes to power. That sounds bad. It sounds unimaginable what that implications are.
And the only way we can learn is what happened in the days of Noah, both before and after the flood. Got it. Okay. vampires are real check been waiting a couple years for that one so thank you how are you you good you caught up sufficiently caught up just hanging and listening anything that you want him to talk about or you want to ask um i'm really curious on ai from gary's perspective are you sure yeah i'm very interested because you have said things like you think nephilim are involved with ai you And I'm very curious on what is happening? How are Nephilim attempting to mess with us now?
What are the modern day tactics that are happening right now, including AI? Well, let's just look at AI as a separate thing and just sort of connect it into the larger notion that it's the royales from more of the back rooms now that are controlling everything. they'll become more visible because you're going to have ten kings that are going to rule the end-time government before Antichrist comes to power at the midpoint of the last seven years. So they come first, and Antichrist rises up between those horns, Daniel 7 refers to in Revelation 17. And so these are the descendants of the beast empires. These are, as Daniel 2.43 is, they're going to mix their seed with humans.
These are the ones that in Psalms 21.8-10, he's going to remove their fruit and their seed from the seed of humankind in the end time, in the time of his fiery wrath. There's a seed line here that's been with us all the way through. And these are the terrible ones that are also destroyed on a mountain, which is likely Mount Hermon, in the end time, at the time of Armageddon. So with that sort of as a background that somehow, someway, Nephilim or their descendants are going to be with us, or both, and certainly they're going to require a creation for a soul and a body of some form for the demonic spirits that are going to interact with us, we're going to have that influence again in the end time. Now, AI is part of this angelic technology that we're talking about.
And no matter what anybody says, just watch a Terminator movie, and you know AI is probably not good for you. I say that in tongue-in-cheek, but we need to understand that it's not the knowledge, it's how it's going to be used. And it's always a double-edged sword.
And AI is going to be... A coming together of several technologies, I think, that includes quantum computing, which is interdimensional, and the cryptocurrency. They're currently working on the aspect of from another dimension to be able to prevent the decryption of cryptocurrency.
So the Royals off the books money is safe. And so this is all being worked on. In fact, even at the Davos meeting last year, they're quite disappointed that AI is not up to speed yet to implement their chip system that they talked about in 2017 and 2018 so that they can create that in conjunction with the neural link to create this hive mind, so to speak, where they can communicate without speaking. They're talking about... That in Davos last January as well.
So AI needs to be developed in a faster way, and there's a larger emphasis on it. So now we roll that forward. What do we know in prophecy about something that looks like an AI?
And we get an image of the Antichrist in the end time. And this is a speaking image. And this is very interesting language, because in the Old Testament, They talk about idols, and one kind of idol is a talking idol.
Now, where you see the word idol, it doesn't always go back to teraphim, so you have to be careful, and it's not always translated as teraphim. Some idols are just, teraphims are just translated as idol, so it's not really a consistent sort of translation, but teraphim were family idols that could speak in seemingly inanimate objects. this is an inanimate object that's going to be able to speak. That generally means there's a demon that's in that.
So one deduces that you're going to likely have a Oikitarian capability within the AI programming, just as whatever these idols were, like with what Rachel took. from her father that had to be returned. That was, it's translated as idol, but it's teraphim.
A talking idol. A talking idol, yes. And so, I think we're going to have demonic spirits in there somehow, and they're working at the behest of Antichrist.
At the time of Armageddon, He, false prophet, and Satan are going to have demons come out of their mouth. But you could also translate that out of the Greek as they're commanding the demons. So in this case, you could look at those demons he would be commanding through his image.
And guess what that image does? All who do not take the mark of the beast or worship Satan or worship Antichrist will be beheaded. Why?
Because some of them have rivals. out there. I mean, some of them, they have, the Antichrist will have rival bloodlines out there who don't want to submit to his kingship of the world.
So they're going to make sure those ones are going to stay dead. That's why the beheading. And so the AI is this coming together of the mark of the beast that comes in to play with this implant chip system that works interdimensionally that will also give contact.
to the divine essence, or the Atma particle that is talked about in the subcontinent of India, also called the Brahma. And this is an invisible particle that they're looking for, that you can't measure at the quantum level, that contains all knowledge, that through quantum entanglement sends all knowledge worldwide, universal wide. all dimension wide, instantaneously known as quantum entanglement.
And this is the knowledge that they want to tap into because they have to be able to offer immortality of the individual and unlimited knowledge as part of the oath and the mark that you're going to take with the mark of the beast. So this is technology that's coming together that's required for the mark of the beast in my understanding um okay did that answer your question i think so we're good hold on give me a second to just process that cern yeah um what the c-e-r-n yeah what is that again It's the first major quantum location. Yeah. Is it Switzerland? Yeah.
I've heard that there are strange artifacts, statues, things that are on location. Almost like they're trying to figure out if there's energy around those that can construct. We're going off into conspiracy land because I haven't studied it.
But I'm sure you've studied it. Does CERN seem to be the foremost leading edge of that right now? Or are there others?
It is. It was the source of the internet, for example. Really?
Yeah. Most people don't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah.
And CERN is an acronym. And it's a contrived acronym. So when you see Shiva involved, which is a destroyer god, understand that Azazel, as he's named in the Book of Enoch, taught all...
the arts to destroy the world. He's known as, he's understood as the scapegoat and is degraded to satire goat god-like status as he's worshipped in the occult as a goat god. And that Apollyon and Abaddon mean destroyer in Greek and in Hebrew. as the one who comes out of the pit prison. Azazel is the Hebrew word for the word scapegoat in Leviticus 16 for the second goat that's sacrificed on the Day of Atonement that's sent into the wilderness without explanation because the first one is for the sins of Israel.
We're not told who... These sins are seemingly with the connection of Azazel for the sins of the antediluvian world. And CERN is an Indo-Aryan word. It can be pronounced as C-E-R-N as in CERN, or it could also be pronounced CERN, K-E-R-N, just as in Hebrew you get CERN, that seems to be a source out of the Indo-Aryan, which is Q-E-R-E-N for horn or mountain. And...
When we look at horn gods around the world, and we understand goat gods or horn gods, so Odin would be like a goat god. There's an equivalent of Odin in English. Celtic and Irish occult religions, whose name is Cernunnos, C-E-R-N-U-N-O-U-S.
In the Proto-Roman civilization, which is the Etruscans, which is another branch of the Indo-Aryans, the giants before, they actually have a god in their top nine gods as being Cern, C-E-R-N. So what does Cern mean in Doarian? It means a horned god, a horn-headed god.
These are satyr gods, just as Pan is a satyr god, just as Bacchus is a satyr god, and numerous other names. And Baphomet, worshipped by the Knights Templar, is a horned god, and likely Azazel, as they honor Azazel in their religion for providing them all the knowledge. And in fact, Roslyn Castle, built by the Sinclairs who created Freemasonry, as an angel hung upside down with a rope in the shape of a Z, with the pearls of wisdom hanging from the neck as the knowledge, as a representation, and he's hung upside down.
That's the representation of Azazel in that chapel. When we look at CERN, it's closely associated with the technology that was here before the flood, and with Azazel, who's in the pit prison, and in the Book of Enoch. He is the leader of the Watchers that was sent to the pit prison. So if you can now use this interdimensional technology, you can do a couple of things.
One, you could go into heaven, as Antichrist will in Daniel 8.10 in the end time, and throw some of the starry host down on the earth. He can try and do what Satan tried to do in Isaiah 14. And that's the same time as the war in heaven. In Revelation 12, when Antichrist comes to power, and Michael stands up, and Michael fights against the angels and throws them down to the earth.
And when we look at the other thing that he can do, is he could go into another dimension, because it's thought that Sheol and Hades is in the same space as the inner earth, but in another dimension. So if they wanted to free Azazel, the goat god, the satyr god, you would have to go in there and free them out, and free the parent gods out likely as well, and all the demons, the terrible ones, and that they could bring about the end time before the ordained time, and we would have all of those walking amongst us beforehand. So they just go in and release them, force the timelines up. Yeah. Now, this will blow your mind a little bit, too.
When we look at Nimrod, he is applying knowledge that he shouldn't have. Right. And that as people working as one nation, one language, nothing is going to be prevented from them from doing if they choose to do it.
And in the version of the Polychronicon and the secret societies and Freemasonry, in the version of... the book of yashir although i know it's apocrypha as well he threatens god and speaks hubris which an antichrist figure would do so he's like an antichrist archetype ruling over all of the noah heights at that time and that he imposes this enochian mysticism on him and babylon is sourced in the root word babel let nimrod introduced that religion on, which is from the antediluvian world, and that he is utilizing this knowledge that he receives that we talked about on a previous show in terms of the knowledge from the antediluvian world that's delivered by Hermes to him. And he initiates a thousand masons in that sort of process.
So Josephus talks about some of these events as well. And so as you triangulate all of those, it sounds like there's a technology there or knowledge that they could do things. Now, the occult understanding is that pyramids, ziggurats, and towers were essentially used for the same purposes, and that they were a technology. Now, for this over to the Akkadian version, and where you have EL, it is transliterated into other languages as AL. or I-L or I-L-U. So the Akkadian version calls it Babalu, but they don't define Babalu as confusion of languages.
They understand it as I-L-U as a god. and bab as in a portal or a gateway. So now, in that translation from the occult understanding, he was creating a technology there to build a portal into heaven or a portal into Hades or Sheol, and that's why the pyramid was stopped or the ziggurat was stopped.
Now, you'd have to be a madman if you think you could use mud bricks. to build a pyramid or a tower into heaven, let alone into another dimension. It makes no sense.
But if he had that technology, he could be like the Antichrist and, again, poses him as another Antichrist figure. And, of course, an intercession by God to ensure that all the names in the book of life are going to have that opportunity to leave it in or not. So the organization of...
uh cern you could extrapolate on that and say it's essentially um this is why more of a one world order is required to get that off like imagine if every imagine if every country in the world was united and working together towards just this one thing like we would do it and that's what you have in babel yes like it's not just the languages it's also like they're they're not fighting Like they're all trying to do the same thing. They're on the same page. They're doing the same thing together. They have the same religion.
They have the same goal in mind as to what they're going to do with this technology, the rebellion against God. Yeah. And what's also interesting is in the Yashar account and in the Masonic accounts is that Nimrod is saying that if God gets out of line, again, he's going to go into heaven and kill God.
What? That's how hubris and more antichrist will be. Wow. Okay.
Anywhere you want to go or you want me to keep going? You keep going. Can we talk briefly like where the end time prophecies have yet to be fulfilled and things that you're looking at? Because there's so many prophecies in the book of Daniel and just so many have been fulfilled, but so many haven't.
Yeah. um where are we and how does that play into where we're going yeah so we are in i think the fig tree generation which means we're close but not there yeah and we don't know how long a generation is yeah we get several different numbers we get 40 years in the wilderness we get 70 years in the book of psalms and we get 120 years in genesis 6 3 and you have to be able to pay when The beginning of the fig tree generation is to start that sort of countdown. So one thing that we do know is in Old Testament prophecy, without getting into too much minutiae, is the northern kingdom, the lost tribes, were called the vine in prophetic allegory.
This is in Hosea 9, for example. And in Jeremiah and other passages, you have the southern kingdom called the figs or the fig tree. So just before Jesus goes into the temple and just before he gives all of that discourse and the signs of the time, he's going to go up to a fig tree and he's going to grab a fruit off of it and he's going to kill it, the fig tree. And the disciples are going to wonder why and he's going to say, because it no longer bears fruit.
And they're about to totally violate the Holy Covenant and reject their Messiah. So now he's going to use that as an aliquary for the fig tree generation and the people of the southern kingdom, which is Judea. They're going to understand the disciples exactly what that means. They may not understand that they're going to be dispersed at this point, but they should because it's written into. the Holy Covenant, you violate it enough times and enough, and you're going to be dispersed.
And you had the example of Babylon with the Southern Kingdom and the Northern Kingdom that are still lost to this day, who have not awakened yet. So that's one of the events that's going to have to happen. Yeah, Babylon will come back.
Right. So after, you know, the Northern tribes will awaken, called by name in the end time. That has not happened. It hasn't even begun to happen yet.
But what we do know is that the southern kingdom has to be back in the covenant land, and I would argue specifically Jerusalem where the fig tree was killed in the end time for it to kick off, and they got control of Jerusalem in 1967. and declared independence in 1947, fought their war of independence in 1948, but the declaration was 1947. So you have those two starting points, but I think you have to be in control of Jerusalem because it's an epicenter for end-time prophecy, and it has to be sort of in place. So if we are in the fig tree generation, I would use that as a start. I would rule out the 40 years. I would say 70 or 120 years.
If we are in the 70 reign, then we might see things happening a little bit quicker, but it could be longer. So we want to be careful with this. So some of the major events that haven't happened yet is, A, we haven't seen the declaration of the covenant of death in Daniel 9.27 that kicks off the last seven years. That's reserved for the end time. And we haven't seen Babylon rise, this universal religion, that's going to be in place, I think, before the ten kings rise.
And she's going to control the ten kings as she rides the empire of beasts of present and past in the time of John and controls it with the rains. And they're going to grow jealous of her, which is why they, in the hour, they're going to be in the hour. At the ordained time, and it's an important hour of a lot of things, we won't go into all of that, but it's a key word to understand in biblical chronology for people for the end time.
And in that hour, they're going to hand their power over to Antichrist, they're going to destroy Babylon, and then he's going to implement the mark of the beast. So we haven't seen Babylon rise, we haven't seen the ten kings rise, and we haven't seen the start of the sacrificing. on a wing or an extremity or an overspreading of the temple, depending on which English translation that you're reading in Daniel, for their sacrifices to be reintroduced.
You're going to need the Babylon religion that's going to control all other religions around the world, including Islam, to make that happen. So that has to happen. Is the woman you're talking about Sophia?
Yeah, I think she's going to be represented as Sophia, but you could pick any of the queens of heaven as an allegory. We do get queen of heaven as a term biblically in Jeremiah 4, where they're giving rituals of sacrifice and cakes off to the queen of heaven as being offered at that time. And so when we look at the woman, the woman is the Babylon religion. This is the mother of all harlots. So it's the mother religion and could be the original mother goddess that that religion would come from.
The Old Testament uses a term called the daughters of Babylon as offshoot religions of Babylon that dominated all of the beast empires. But this is going to be something that's going to be significant and a return to the mother goddess. as part of the worship process of the end time.
Which would assume that that's a theosophy-type religion, correct? Yes, we would from a Western perspective. Such as New Age or like Christ, the consciousness, like does that qualify or what qualifies as a religion? I'm trying to figure out what it is. Well, basically you have two religions in the world, monotheism and polytheism.
Okay, got it. Okay, and so all of these religions are based on the old religion before the flood or the religion at Babel in terms of what Nimrod imposed. Well, the most polytheistic religion ever in history is going to be New Age because it believes that we're all gods.
There's billions of them. Yeah. Well, it's the same belief system as in Hinduism. It's the same belief system. That's true.
Yeah. Yeah. So it's going to follow some sort of-In fact, New Age borrows a lot of Hinduism and Buddhist terms into their vernacular. That's a big realization if people are paying attention. Yeah.
And Christ consciousness is their belief system of the coming Christ, not the coming- Messiah. Messiah. Savior.
Yeah, not Yahweh, not Yehovah, not Yeshua, not Joshua. I mean, several different names that you could apply there for the same being. This is their counterfeit that's coming. Right.
Just as they've sent many on the way in their belief system, whether it's Confucius, whether it's Buddhist, and Buddhist was an avatar of Vishnu, the avatar, to create that religion and provided the wisdom. And this will be, as they understand it in the New Age, an incarnation, which is a term that's used in some allegedly Christian works as an incarnation that we should be very, very careful with because Jesus isn't an incarnation. Can you explain, can you break that down? So in an incarnation of a Christ consciousness, it is an angelic being that's going to come into an already born. human being that has a host, but it's symbiotic relationship versus a demonic possession.
Okay. And it's going to add additional power and knowledge. So just as Satan enters into Judas to give him the courage to continue to betray Jesus, that would be the biblical analogy of that concept. And also understand that Satan is going to receive all the power from Satan.
How does that coincide with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, like they're in the upper room, the disciples in the upper room? Would that be incarnation, or is that a different word? I'm not sure quite what you're asking in terms of the upper room. The apostles, when Jesus is like, I'm going to leave, but I'm going to send a helper, it's better that I go.
And then they're filled with the Holy Spirit. But when you're saying be careful with incarnation, is that… um that isn't a i'm trying to figure out how that applies to holy spirit when the holy spirit right when the holy spirit enters into you yeah that's yeah that's the spirit of god okay so that's okay yeah that's okay okay got it i was like dude oh no a spirit of a fallen angel got it so now polytheist would say i don't see the difference but there is a difference because we receive our spirits from god through the holy spirit okay And the fallen angels have corrupted their spirit and rebelled and rejected things. So when they do that, they're trying to recreate a similar situation that is distinct as with Jesus when he becomes flesh. So in that aspect, you have the Holy Spirit that's going to come upon Mary and is going to create the seeds for the Oikitarian.
without sex to create a soul and a body so that the word, as in the spirit form, will use that body as his oiketarian to be able to overcome the world and be sacrificed for the world. And they have, at this point, the other, the polytheistic fallen angels, they haven't figured out how to recreate what Holy Spirit did with Mary. They can't do that. Yeah. Okay.
They don't have that ability. And there's only one spirit in. Jesus. Not two.
It's not shared. Right. Okay?
So there's a distinction there that the polytheists have brainwashed us to accept as an incarnation, which has two spirits involved as a minimum. And you could have more than that. Yeah.
This is like 10 steak dinners in one podcast. Yeah. I'm going to go make some coffee for both of us. We're going to do an intermission, then we'll come right back. Sure.
Wonderful. He looks so overwhelmed. I'm going to have to watch this at like 0.75, and then I can't wait to make shorts.
I think I'm going to learn what you're saying on this episode from making the shorts from this. I don't know if you can tell, but can we be best friends, please? Yeah, sure.
I need someone to call when I'm so confused. I feel like what we just did is we just went from a solo, and now you're Jake and you're Taylor. Yeah. And I don't know what I am anymore. I'm just, I'm just here.
So I almost, I almost, uh, I'm, do you like sugar? Sorry. Do you like, do you like, do you like sugar in your coffee or just cream?
Just cream. Um, okay. I'm going to go make that, but I do want to say something. I almost feel like this episode should be the first episode. Really?
And then the one we just did before should be the second. Okay. Because we hit so fast in this episode. I don't know how you feel. but we're like boom intercontinental ballistic missiles boom vampires um boom hitler like if i'm intro to gary wayne yes if i'm watching the first episode i'm gonna watch six seven minutes i'm gonna save it for study on the weekend right if i watch this episode i'm gonna pull over on the side of the street and finish it it's so fast moving well that's good for the audience to know so i mean because we talked about in the first episode filming a second one so this is the second episode And then we'll release the first one later.
Yeah. And we can just put that in the trailer. Maybe even. Yeah. We'll put a trailer.
It's fine. Yeah. That's great.
And then I'll just figure out a... Yeah, like I said, just feel free to go wherever you want to go. I am blown away by this guy. Okay, so I want to keep going on this train.
I know where I want to end, but I'm just having fun in the middle. When you look at pre-flood, post-flood, we've gotten a lot of comments about people who specifically on... timothy albarino's episode when we're talking about the planets and the stars and they're like don't you know that the the earth is flat is the earth flat gary well a lot of people believe that to be the case um i am agnostic on it okay um it would take a lifetime of research to figure that out you I lean slightly against it.
It's not a faith issue, but it certainly has a life of its own within the Christian community. So I understand how we get there for a flat earth, and I'm not against the idea of it. I think the language that's used for the understanding of flat earth could just as easily be understood as a three-dimensional.
description within the larger context of those passages that it's being used in. But I understand how you get to a circle, but that's not necessarily all of the passages that are used in the Hebrew language for that description, but you can still make an argument for a flat earth. I think as a qualification on the other side, I'd speak regularly against science.
and how it's being dictated by the polytheists to run a polytheist campaign to lead people away from God. I am highly critical on NASA and how they communicate, what they do. And so I'm not giving the globe people a complete vote of support either. although I would lean a little bit that way. But my challenge to the FE people would be that we need to be able to, if we want to make that argument, we want to make sure that we can answer phenomena that isn't really covered within the theology or the theory of the flat Earth.
So a couple of those things are 24-hour light and darkness, one at each side of the poles. I'm from Canada. I fished under 24-hour sun in the Arctic Circle, and the sun's always up at the same angle at that point in time, and it's real.
And I've also been up to, I flew up to a place right on the edge of land at the end of the Mackenzie River called Tuktoyuktuk. I had to look at a claim in December, like mid-December, so it's already 24-hour darkness then. Wow.
And there is no light. Period. It's dead night.
Wow. And so it has to account for those two aspects going on at the same time twice a year based on the solace. So I would encourage FE theorists to continue the research, not for me because it's a lifetime worth of research to do, but continue and also try and incorporate in all the examples of eclipses that aren't accounted for.
Some of them are. but some of them are not. And if we can't, then it's good to say that I still believe in an F-E, a flat earth, but there are some things we have yet to resolve.
We should be transparent and not trying to shoot down anybody who might have seen effects that they would disagree with as being misinformation artists and things like that. So I would just encourage a... more tolerant approach and continue the research that doesn't sound like a contrarian well they need to verify it they do have to verify it okay what about occult symbolism like how do you can you see the nephilim influences on culture and society today the same way that you could see it back then sure i think so i mean it's within you know our language um how so well we have the word you know giant uh that goes back to in etymology to greek meaning giant in gigantic which has the same sort of root um and when we look at words like great as it's used in for the mighty men of the end time that's Megas and Megastranes, which goes back to Indo-Aryan meg, meaning for a tall giant, and grandees is another extension out of Megas and Megastranes, meaning a large tall man, and each of those words mean sort of giant.
So starting with the word giant, you have a number of connections that are there. So anything to do with Something that's larger than a normal species is sort of rooted in that whole Nephilim sort of concept. So when you're building megaprojects, who are you building it for?
What's it in honor of? And how those applications of those kinds of words are being used. So you have this giant statue that's used in Daniel 2 that Nebuchadnezzar uses, and it's like a massive giant that is to be worshipped.
And then that imagery is used in the metallic empire prophecies of Babylon of the head of gold, and you have the bronze and the gold and the iron feet, and then the iron clay for the toes of the seventh empire of the end time. That is a great statue. That's the Hebrew words describing giants as well in terms of the size and grand. sort of nature of it. So when we look at the worship of the giants, which is part of this Zoroastrian Enochian mysticism religion, we need to look at how we swim in that today in what they call wheel worship.
Pete Wheel worship? Pete Wheel worship is the Hebrew word Gilgal. which means an ofan, as we've talked about, meaning a circuit, or they would do a pilgrimage in a circuit, just as judges or doctors used to work in a circuit in the same sort of way.
And that they have eight Sabbaths in the year of using a solar year versus a lunar year that the Israelites used. So the whole understanding of dates that we worship on, is going to be wheel worship, Nephilim religion based. And those eight Sabbaths, you won't be too surprised to find out that four of them have happened on the two solstices, the two equinoxes, and then six weeks in between. So as we go through this, the last one is December 21, which is the winter solstice, right?
This is at the time of Christmas. and that you have 12 days of Christmas, which is 12 days of the hunting god Odin, as it comes out of German and Celtic tradition. This is a satyr god of the 12 days of Christmas of Yule, Yule being a name for father, just as Odin is understood as the father of the gods.
And... This is the time of the birth of Mithras on December 25. That was the birth of Mithras. Yeah, and Mithras is the god of Mithrasm in the Roman most popular religion, along with Sol Invictus, which is also encapsulated within the Christmas season.
I won't go through the... the complete overlaying of everything on it. But just to give people to understand who Mitra is, you might look at it as Baphomet that the Knights Templar worship, which means Father Mitra.
In Sanskrit, Indo-Aryan Mitra was a chief god, and it's defined as a bond or an alliance, just as Antichrist creates the covenant of death in Daniel 9. 27, and Mithra is the chief god of the Zoroastrians, and Mithra is a god who incarnates at the end of every age, to destroy that world and then start a new world, much like Shiva does, which would be sort of similar to Azazel, as you make some of those connections. And Mitra is a name of, as understood as the name as father, was used in not only the Mithra religion as father, but also as father. And so, it's a very interesting thing to see.
But we've adapted some of that language into the ministerial monotheist religion of Christianity, where we call ministers fathers, just as they were father in Mithraism. And so you have a constant that's sort of happening in the world, and has been going on for a long time, where the polytheists usurp Christian holidays and make them into polytheist holidays. Now, you should celebrate Jesus'birth every day of the year, but he wasn't born on December 25. That's the date that Constantine, who created a combination of Mithraism practices with Christianity to create a state-sponsored religion, did. to utilize that for control over the empire. Now, God, like he used Cyrus and others, he'll use individuals to get Christianity out or the word out and other things throughout our history.
But if we look at the details of when Jesus is born, he's born likely in mid to late September, maybe early October. pushing it. So you have to follow the details of the birth of John the Baptist and the priestly order and the times that they did their orders of Zachariah in that accounting. um within the temple and when you find out for the pregnancy of john what jesus is going to be born about six months later so that dating will get you to march 13th to shorten the story for the birth of john the baptist which is going to put jesus's birth sometime september 13th and maybe a few up to a few weeks later now the details that we get with the birth of jesus is you have the census um and when David, not David, when Joseph and Mary go to Bethlehem for the census, there's no room in the hotels, but there's room in a stable. Well, that's odd because December 25 is the rainy season.
There would be plenty of rooms. They wouldn't be able to stay in a stable. There wouldn't be a stable that's open. They'd all be used. And when the angel goes to the shepherds in the field, They're in the field because it's not the rainy season.
So you get these cross-referencing details that suggest that this day was made up. And again, I have no issues with worshiping Jesus on December 25 or any other day of the year, but we ought to understand we're not given the birth date, but that is the birth date of Mithra. Do you know when the census was? I do, but not off the top of my head. I have a document all about the census I can send you.
Okay. I haven't looked at it in a few years. So when we talk about calendars, have you done much research on how the calendars were changed? In terms of from Gregorian?
Yeah, like the Essene calendar that they kept, and then it was changed to the Gregorian. It came off of a lunar to more of a solar calendar. Yeah, and I would go back saying that's important to understand, but... We should really be trying to focus on the Jewish lunar calendar that's associated with the feasts that would be a better reckoning of when the birth of Jesus was and the Passover, which would have been part of the crucifixion date, right? And again, we don't even have an accurate crucifixion date.
In fact, we ignore details on the crucifixion where Jesus said clearly, as the sign of Jonah, he was going to be three days and three nights in the grave, and there's no way Jesus could be sacrificed on a Friday and be three days and three nights in the grave. But if you follow the Jewish feasts, you understand he's not crucified on the Friday. Passover... happens, and then immediately after, you have the Feast of Unloved and Bread.
And at the start of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, you have a special Sabbath. So without getting too far into the details again, you have Passover, the special Sabbath, and then you have the Sabbath on the Saturday, the regular Sabbath, and he rises on the Sunday. So now you understand that in terms of the Feast, you get three days and three nights in the grave. Got it.
Because the Bible can't be in conflict. And certainly the word of God would not make a math error. Right, right. But yet, even if we were to have the date right, we'd still be recognizing the crucifixion on the wrong date. Right.
This may tie into calendars, it may not, but it's going back to some of the older history. You had the Babylonians, and you had like... like the Persians, do you see, because Mithra also is in the Persian Empire. So were these empires really just being run by fallen angels?
And then through history, what we're seeing is they're trying to merge together? Yeah, I think that's a process that they're trying to do because they want to bring about world government. So we had an incident that happened before the flood, and then I'll finish off on the point. So you had a flood that was brought about because of the violence and the corruption, and I speculated that I think they were going to destroy the world by fire, we've talked about.
And when I look at some analogies of that in polytheism, I look at Atlantis as being probably the best case, because it's an allegory. that the polytheists use for the end time, as the new Atlantis, the new golden age. Okay. The first time. This will be the second time, I guess.
And in that understanding, you have Poseidon, who marries Clydo, a human female, and creates ten demigod kings in the Atlantean Empire. That's in multiple occasions, not just the island of Atlantis. or the continent of Atlantis, and they're trying to take the world through military might that's recorded in Plato's Cremaeus and Timaeus to set up this world empire. And that's what stopped.
So there'd be an anti-Diluvian sort of Antichrist type figure. So when we look at... having that as sort of a backdrop for nothing is new under the sun and what was will be again, then we should be looking at similar types of events after the flood, right? So now you have a restart after the flood, a restart after Babel, and you have beast empires, which are empires of... the Nephilim, and I would say Raphaim post-Diluvian bloodlines.
And these are beast empires of beasts that come out of the sea, and the Antichrist figures of beast spirits, because the imagery and allegory is perfectly consistent throughout the Bible, as we understand that. And these beast spirits are the ones who slander celestial beings and God, because angels are too smart to do that. Right?
They're using a proxy. Yeah, so all these beast empires are attempting to build the new Atlantis, to consolidate everything in the world, except that they don't have the technology to do it. Empires reach a limit that they can actually supply and fortify that empire, and they're all about the same size. And they just run out of that ability, which is, again, why we have to have enough technology to be able to bring that all about. But that doesn't stop them from trying.
And so you have Antichrist wannabes through all of these beast empires, which we'll see again with the Seventh Empire with Antichrist rising amongst the horns. So back to the death and resurrection of Jesus. Three days, three nights. Let's go into that for anyone watching who doesn't know the, because you read the Bible in a way that is fascinating.
Like you look at every word and what all of it means. Does Jesus go to Sheol or Hades? What's happening there?
That's a great question. And we get a reference to that in 1 Peter, 1 Peter 3. And so in the grave, He goes to the Pitt prison. Where Azazel is?
Yeah, to talk to the spirits, right? He goes to Tartarus. He goes to hell, as the language is used there in the Greek with Tartarus.
And this is where not only the fallen angels are, including Azazel, but also the terrible ones in the sides of the pit prison. And he's there. This is now my speculation, but he's visiting while he's still in the grave. And... The context, I think, there is kind of similar to what he would have done at Mount Hermon when he announced Peter to be the one he's going to build his church on.
He's at Mount Hermon where the Council of the Gods would rule from, and the entrance to Hades or Sheol that Baal would go back and forth through in the cave there. And this is a similar one. Now he's gone to Hades, and at the time of Mount Hermon, I think he's announcing that he's going to build his church. and your rebellion is going to be over, you just don't know it. When he goes to, I talk with my hands a lot, when he goes to the prison, he's confirming your rebellion is over, and when I rise, your fate has been sealed to go to the lake of fire.
And I think that if we now layer in 1 Corinthians, where it's talking about the princes of the world, which is the Greek word archons for high-end angels. If they had realized that there was going to be a resurrection, they wouldn't have had him crucified. They backfired pretty... So they didn't know about the resurrection, and he's there to deliver the message.
You think... You did me in, my ad lib here, obviously, by killing me. And you tried when I was a baby, and you were permitted to do this because it's part of our resolution to your rebellion, that when I resurrect, your rebellion is officially over, and humankind, no matter what you do going forward, are going to reach their destiny. And are going to be raised up to be like angels, and then they're going to judge you for the crimes against humanity.
That's dirty. It's probably a serious moment. Yeah, a very serious moment, a landmark moment. And if it's ever read in public or in churches, you never receive the context. Who are these spirits that he's talking to?
Why would he be in Tartarus or Sheol? and to where the spirits are imprisoned. Who are those spirits? None of those questions get asked or answered.
So when it says that he took the keys of death, what is that really in reference to? Well, it's offered to those who believe in him and believe in God and believe in the Holy Spirit that death will not have a grip on us. Will we sleep?
Yes, we will sleep. And our spirits will return to heaven, as Ecclesiastics 9 talks about. But it has no hold on us. Will we be judged?
Yes. But our faith will permit us to be resurrected in whichever part of the sequence that we're going to be resurrected in. Christ's firstfruits, and then when he comes, and then there's going to be another resurrection of those who...
weren't taken, who are still alive, who are going to be killed for holding to the testimony of Jesus in the last three and a half years. And you also have a resurrection in Ezekiel 37 at the time of the second exodus, with the reconciliation of Judah and Israel for that resurrection for the old covenant in time for the supper of the Lamb in Revelation 19, so the bride is complete. And so death doesn't have a permanent grip on us. And we're not going to be dead like the angels or the demons are going to be considered. Now, is there actually a death for an immortal being?
If it's possible, God could do it. But for sure, it's punishment in the lake of fire that they're never coming out. Same with those who take the mark of the beast.
So not all humans will burn forever, only the ones that take the mark of the beast. There may be other allowances for others for there. We don't get that biblically. But those who aren't going to be resurrected into eternal life, they will go to the lake of fire, but it's instantaneous second death.
Okay. I love this moment. What's the difference between purgatory, Abraham's bosom, Sheol, Hades? So, Abraham's bosom comes from a parable that Jesus talks about, and he used a lot of parables to explain points. It's the moral of the story that he's trying to explain.
So, he's using an understanding, because there's a debate amongst the Pharisees and the Sadducees as to whether there's a resurrection or not, and the solution they have is this purgatory-like place that's Abraham's bosom. The narrative of the story is that even if somebody came back from the dead to tell you what it might be like, you still wouldn't believe them. And then he doubles down on this.
And he raises Lazarus from sleep, not purgatory, from sleep. which only he can do, and they don't believe him. And then even more so, Jesus comes back from being crucified, and they don't believe him.
So, there's a chain of details that go with it, but he uses something to teach a lesson that if you're not going to believe on faith, you're just not going to believe. Pete Right. I've never thought about it that way.
That's interesting. Now, the Bible says you sleep hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times. But people will go to, well, there's got to be this purgatory-like place because of Abraham's bosom.
Except he's not quoting it as fact. He's quoting it as a parable on a belief system that they have so they would understand the message. Why would somebody, like, after all that you've studied, why would somebody not?
pick jesus like why would why are there people who why is that the case because jesus doubled down and it's obviously true we see it today but why would people knowing all of the facts and all of the data why are there still people who are just like nah now that i don't want to believe in jesus yeah and i don't want it like well we are stiff-necked i'm stiff-necked um we are a rebellious type of people you And we're sentient beings, and we may not have the discipline to handle things as well as we ought to. That's because we try and do things on our own. And if we were to believe in God, we could handle things better. Not perfect, but better.
And there's no way we're ever going to be able to handle things on our own, which is why when we're going to be resurrected, God is going to write his laws on our hearts. Because we're going to receive new bodies. So we're still going to have physical influence in the world going forward. But it's going to be something new. As Jesus'body was new, is that a physical body can go back and forth between dimensions.
So it's going to be something absolutely new. And it's going to be in the likeness. Restore us back. Yeah, to that first estate, absolutely. And so I think it's a matter of our arrogance.
as a species. And it's also showing us that no matter what, we're just like fallen angels, where they were created already immortal, but up to a third would rebel. And that's a large number.
It's not just the 200 that people might associate it with. And in Daniel 8 and the book of Revelation, it uses a number 10,000 times 10,000. That's 100 million.
So up to a third, according to Revelation 12, are going to rebel. You could calculate that 33 million or 50 million, or it's an allegorical number. If you want to go with an allegorical approach on that, it's still a big number.
I think it's even bigger than that, because that was describing just one area where they were worshiping God. Around the throne, yeah. Yeah, 100 million around the throne.
Yeah, so there's a lot of angels that are fallen that aren't in the pit prison, that are still ruling this world. So they rebelled with intimate knowledge of God and knowing how powerful God was. So we don't have a lot of knowledge.
And so it's more of a temptation for us not to believe than it was for them. And then we get a special time that is set aside to prove to us we need to be humble because we're just like the fallen angels. So we get a period where Jesus is going to rule for a thousand years. And at the end of the thousand years, Satan is going to be released, and he's going to cause a rebellion in a very short period of time and march on Jerusalem to war with Jesus. And after a thousand years of Jesus and God living with us, we will have a significant amount of people rebel.
And that's to humble us to say, even though we are rewarded more through faith because we had such little knowledge to get our immortality, we have to understand, and that's the final sort of thing to the free choice to nail down for eternity, that God only wants people loyal to them who chose. And that he wants to take all of those seeds and ability to go wrong out of the way before moving forward. Wow. I had this moment with God just a couple of days ago.
Because I'm arrogant and I'm stiff-necked. And I think I know better. And so I think sometimes when people are like us, contrarians.
Jake, are you a contrarian? I feel like you're just very obedient. Really? You probably never tell God no. I mean, I try to be obedient the best I know how.
I still get frustrated with him, though. Jake's the perfect archetype for just like a soft heart, like obedient to God. And I'm like, prove it.
I'm just terrified of something taking me longer to figure out than it needs to. But for business owners and people who are just driven, I think it's almost like sometimes it's hard to... the submission game is hard like to do what we're instructed to do you use the word discipline um it had this image of like my son harrison who is um you met him earlier he's just a little bitty kid but he was like standing and there was a like a a wall that was maybe four feet tall and he couldn't see on the other side of it and There was something dangerous on the other side.
And I was like, don't go this direction. I was telling him, like, don't go around this wall because you're going to get hurt if you do that. And he can't see it. And so he just decides to do it anyways and then he gets hurt.
And I almost had this idea of like this is sometimes us with God. Like the laws of God are designed for life and life to the full. They're designed for us to live in that and in a good place. But.
we can't see over the wall and so we have to have this level of submission to trust god and i think a lot of people are like god is just trying to rule me yeah when it's like well that that's not such a bad thing if we don't even we don't have the intelligence to know what to do sometimes and i think the stubbornness is what gets us yeah it's the understanding and the evidence portrayed during these generations of adam yeah that is a testimony not only to convict the fallen angels but for us to go forward on is there's only one way that doesn't lead to destruction. Right. Because everything's been played out.
Right. Right? So can you imagine Paul, after being part of the generation that crucified their Messiah, and then persecuting Christians and having them killed with his Damascus moment, then converting and living with that stiff-neckedness?
what he did, what his people did, what the history of their people did, and having to contend with that and put out such great teachings, obviously with the help of the Holy Spirit, and to do what he did, even on to death. It's an amazing story, but for me, people like myself, it gives me hope that I can use his, I'm a bit, obsessed. He would have been considered a zealot, I think, from a Jewish perspective in terms of the laws that he was implementing, that we can, if we work on it, reform ourselves to be more on faith than fact-driven. And I am, and I've had to learn faith that over time I'll learn more to satisfy that if I have the faith to do so. And then I'd also throw in...
I would encourage people to be like the Bereans, as in the book of Acts, where the Bereans verified everything that Paul was preaching about in the Old Testament before they accepted what Paul said. Really? So if you want to be a Christian contrarian, it's truly a Berean. Wow. I didn't even, I'm going to have to go study those.
I love the Bereans. He was like, everybody should be like the Bereans. because their spiritual discernment was such a big problem back then yeah yeah all right what do we miss jay clean us up make this presentable i feel like that's you just did i feel like the ending that was a great way to end it i thought that was perfect I still have questions about the flat earth, but I'm going to let it go for now.
No, I think that's a beautiful way to end it. Understanding more of Jesus'story and even just taking what you said, like take what's being said here and then go do your own research. Yeah, go dig.
Yeah. Like you did in 1981 when you started down this journey. Yeah.
And that knowledge obviously pointed you to the truth. And I would imagine once you saw it, you couldn't unsee it. No, you cannot. And you're faced a choice. You're not going to have peace because you can't know what you just learned.
Or you're going to resolve that. And there's only one way to resolve that. I would also find that be a little bit more like Paul in the sense of put everything around what Jesus said. And everything's going to make sense. And if you're struggling with prophecy, start with what Jesus said, and not vice versa like a lot of people do.
And I know a lot of people think that the sequence of events that he gets isn't a sequence and it's topical, except that the language doesn't say that. It says, and then. That's the Greek word, tota.
And it means exactly that. It's sequential. The next thing.
It's at that time. And so he's given us a chronology with an abomination in the middle and a reference to read about Daniel to understand all about that period and the events leading up to it. If you put everything around what Jesus said, all your conflicts in prophecy disappear.
Listen there. I love it. Cool. Can we pray real fast? Let's go with that.
Let's go. God, thank you for Gary. Thank you for great men who have been diligent and they've studied and shared their what their findings with with us.
God, thanks. Thank you for Jesus. Thank you for caring enough about the creation that you made and the the the humans to send a savior. Thank you that everything that you say and everything you record is perfect and that it at the end. when we understand how important where we are right now is to you, we're empowered with boldness and we're empowered to stand up for the things that we believe in and to teach other people.
Thank you for reconciliation. Thank you for unity. And thank you for using whatever happened here today to show people a little bit that maybe we had missed when.
growing up in church or being raised in societies like we're in today. We just love you, and we ask that you would bless this and bless everybody listening to this in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen.
Cool. See if you can down that in one drink. I'm not going to be able to do it without a headache. You'll be bouncing off the walls.
We'll see you guys.