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Podcast with Manoj Bajpai - Key Takeaways

I feel that you were always a very smart actor, but the world was not ready for you. Every morning, I used to wear new clothes, put on perfume, sit on the sofa and ask for work. So that was my office. There was no work at that time. Absolutely. Brother, I am sitting at home after doing a cult blockbuster film like Satya. I didn't have work. For many months. I met teammates from many different states. But Bihar has a speciality in its teammates. There is a lot of loyalty, brotherhood. Why is it so? Have you thought about it? Because they are from a small place. If he doesn't become smart, then he will be looted. He will be ruined. He will have to go back to his village empty-handed. And an empty-handed Bihar man doesn't want to go back. Wow. Loneliness has increased these days. Loneliness has increased in people's hearts. People have started listening to podcasts to fulfill that loneliness. You are the reason for your loneliness. Friendship has changed its meaning. Friendships are over. You sit together and bro-bro. But you really don't have a friend. If you are Vivian Richards of acting. Then who is Gavaskar? Gavaskar, I believe in Irfan. I get a lot of criticism myself because I talk a lot about hard work. But I believe that you will not get growth with balance. You have to be a little unbalanced for growth. For 30 years, don't think about how many hours you slept and how many hours you didn't sleep. If you put yourself in fire till the age of 30. Then life will take care of you after that. Friends, this podcast is for UP, Bihar. Please share this podcast in your WhatsApp groups. And go watch Manoj sir's new film, Bhaiyaji. Releasing in theatres on 24th May. The film is releasing on 24th May. But before watching the film. Or if you have already watched the film. Then after watching the film. Now watch a very crazy TRS episode with Manoj Bajpai sir. Welcome again Manoj Bajpai. Welcome again. I want to talk to you every year. It's been a year sir. Do you remember anything about the last conversation? We had a lot of talks. We talked a lot about spirituality. We talked about life and death. Am I right? Yes. What has happened in your life in a year? There was a storm. And that storm is still going on. I keep running from here to there. I keep roaming around. I meet people. I do shooting. I do film promotion. Then I go home. Then I go to my daughter's hostel. Whenever I get time, I run home and go. It's like that. This is our life. What does storm mean? Storm means being busy. It is increasing day by day. I have a good complaint. I have a good complaint. You are very busy. Very busy. I don't want to be so busy. Same. Yes. I don't want to be so busy. I am a different kind of person. I am a person who sits at the corner and drinks tea. And I am a person who keeps looking at people. I am a person who goes to buy vegetables. I am a person who goes to buy groceries. I am a person like that. When I don't get that, I get a little worried. There is a need of an artist. Yes. Until you put it inside, if you don't put it, will you take it out? But still, wherever I shoot, I manage it there. Yes. Yes. Because I don't see work only from the perspective of work. I see it from the perspective of experience. So, while coming and going, we turn the car somewhere else for half an hour. Then we go to a samosa shop, which is 1.5 hours away from Lucknow. We sit there, drink tea, eat samosas, look at people. Right? Do people let you see? No. When you stay in a very small place, people come and sit with you. Don't they recognize you? No. Do they recognize you? That's why they come and sit with you. They talk to you. They don't fall on you like crazy. But they sit and talk to you. You talk to them. But those who are watching you from a distance, then they come and sit with you. Right? What do you ask them? How are you? Will you have tea? The conversation starts from there. Hmm. Yes. It is important that you don't show them that you are different from them. Tell them that you are like them. The field is different. The work is different. But you are like them. So the conversation starts from there. Do you do research as an actor? I don't do research on purpose. For many years, when we used to do theatre, we did it on purpose. We used to observe. Want to start your own podcast first learn how start your own podcast only by one podcast, you get 20 shortform video, you can get reels, shorts But what you have to learn today is how to start podcasting. Your brother has brought a course for you. Definitely check out Beer bicep's Skill Houses. Podcasting 101 course. But as you keep practicing, it becomes a part of your personality. What? Observation? Observation. It becomes a part of your personality. Now I am singing. Now these people who are sitting there, they are being printed in my mind. Because it becomes a part of your personality. Like you are shaking your head, it becomes a part of your personality. I am not doing it on purpose. Things get registered on their own. So it is important that you do it so many times. So that you don't have to put in extra effort. Things are happening on their own in you. So what we said in the beginning of this podcast is that this year you are putting in a lot of effort. It is a part of my personality. Like I am shooting Family Man now. I am enjoying it a lot. After 3 years we went for the shooting. I am enjoying it a lot. But the problem is that I have to find Shrikant Tiwari after 3-4 years. So that is a good problem. I feel like doing that. I do the same work and I feel like doing it a lot. I enjoy the process. I enjoy finding an actor and making an actor. When it is about to release, I am detached. Completely. I am detached from its success and its failure. I am enjoying it. Now Bhaiyaji's promotion is about to start. So I am looking forward to it. I will meet new people. I will go to Lucknow. I will go to Patna. I will eat this. I will go to that place. I want to have that tea on the tea stall in the morning. So you started jogging in the morning. And when you jogged for 4-5 km, you sat on the tea stall. There is time in the morning. There is not much traffic. People do not come and go. And the tea stall gives you tea. Then you talk to them. Then you will talk about Bhaiyaji. Then he will tell you about his enthusiasm. So this ordinary life is very beautiful. It is very beautiful. When you do not burden yourself with your work, Life is very beautiful. Maybe this is a skill. Which you get with age as a gift. Actually, I have always had it with me. I have enjoyed it a lot. I have enjoyed shooting outdoors so much. I enjoyed it a lot. I made a lot of friends. And all the friends I have made, Till date, on the phone, Sometimes we talk on the message. Sometimes they call me. There is one Mammuji Maharaj. I made friends with him. He has a great understanding of astrology. He has a great understanding of Lal Kitab. So I made friends with him. I was from Udaipur. I was from Bikaner. So I got to know him at that time. I still have contact with Mammu Maharaj. So, I believe that I meet people as if they are not separate from me. I am a person. I have come into this world. We have all come with our destiny. We have to live this life with that destiny. And whoever comes near your heart, Or comes close to you, He has to have something to do with his destiny. Right? We have met somewhere in some birth. There is someone because of whom you are meeting. Otherwise, you will not meet like this. I am I am meeting you for the second time. When I saw your name on the schedule, I knew that today is going to be a very special day. This is not a podcast for me, this is a little mentoring session for me, a little… Yes, yes. I am just meeting you. Actually, this is a blessing of my job. Yes, yes. This is my job. Yes, yes. So, we will have fun, sir. Yes, yes. When you meet people from South Mumbai, you still feel this way. Actually, let me tell you. People from South Mumbai make fun of me because they think that I am an elitist. This is true for some people, but not for many people. Because I have a few friends from South Mumbai. They are very good friends. And they don't have that elitism in them. But they are from that family. But they are very pure at heart. They are very innocent. Now, South Mumbai was once just that Mumbai. So, different types of people used to live there. Gradually, Bandra, then it spread. Today, Andheri, then Malad. Now, Virar has become a city. Earlier, Virar used to be a village. So, when I meet anyone, Believe me, I assure you that I am not pretending. I meet anyone, any type of person. I meet them very openly. I have been a non-judgmental person. This is inside me. I can't judge anyone even if I want to. I can't judge anyone even if I want to from inside. Maybe this is my father's gene. All the Biharis I have met so far, all of them have this quality. Very good. There is a little non-judgmental energy. I think it is a great experience for us. Because see, what is Bihar? Bihar is an agricultural state. There is no factory in Bihar. So, what is the biggest source of income there? What is the source of daily bread? Agriculture. Agriculture. So, most of them are villages. Most of them are children of a farmer's family like me. Who later come to Patna and do some business. Or they go to UPSC or a government job. Or they come to Delhi and work in a radio or TV. Or people like me come in some films. And many of them work in Bangalore corporate offices. In Delhi or Pune. But everyone's origin is agriculture. Everyone's origin is agriculture. So, every person who is coming from Bihar, every child who is coming from Bihar, everything is new for them. Ranbir is also new for him. The way he has worn clothes, that is also new for him. The way he has done his hair, everything is new for him. So, he is seeing and learning everything. He is understanding. He is adjusting. That I have to speak like this, I have to talk like this. I have to understand things like this. And he is still doing that with me. I have a theory. I believe that whatever is your biggest passion, whatever is your biggest interest, that becomes a filter of your life or your perspective. For example, if you watch a lot of cricket, you start seeing life like cricket. I am batting now, he is my partner. I watch cricket a lot and football a lot. And because of these two, I see my life as a sport. I have got teammates from many different states. But Bihar's teammates are special. There is a lot of loyalty, brotherhood. Why do you think so? Because they are from a small place. They are from a small village, a small city. They are from a small village, a small city, which has nothing to do with a modern society. So, if Ranbir is my friend there, I will do anything for him. Because most of them are from a joint family. So, for them, cousin brother is not a cousin brother. He is like his own brother. He is a brother. He grew up among them. So, uncle and auntie are not uncle and auntie. They are his father and mother. Do you understand? So, when the society is closed, you depend on each other in such an environment. That is why there are such friendships there. And when they consider Ranbir as a friend, they will not want to hear a single bad thing about Ranbir. They will not like it. So, I have heard and seen people from Bihar. If someone says anything about Ranbir, they will say that their experience is different from theirs. You must have had a different experience. But our experience is different. They will definitely say that even if they don't fight with you. They will keep their words. Because they are coming from such an environment. But there is one more thing. They are very smart. So, how? How is this happening? Because everyone left their village. Everyone left their comfort zone. Street smarts. Yes, you left your comfort zone. You went away from your parents' shadow. You left your most comfortable, protected place. Now you are without any kind of a Baisakhi. Now you are alone. Now you have to find your life. So, if he does not use his brain, then it is a problem. If he does not become smart, then he will be ruined. He will be destroyed. He will have to go back to his village empty handed. And a Bihari man does not want to go back empty handed. Wow. Wow. I will come back as something. I will come back as something. Wow. Otherwise, how will I face people? This has happened to me. When my National Scope drama was made, I felt that I am not going to do anything. I mean, what am I going to do? How can I go back? How will I face people? So, if you are not street smart, then you will not be able to take a single step. The world will devour you. It will devour you. It will definitely devour you. In the beginning, you are street smart for food, for shelter. Then, you work so hard in the place where you are working, so that you get respect. So that you get a name. So that you get a chair. Isn't it? So, it starts from zero in a big city. Hmm. Isn't it? Was this early 90s for you? Yes. Not early 90s, it was before that. Late 80s. Mid 80s. Mid 80s. I feel ashamed talking to you. I am crying because of 9 years of humiliation. Your humiliation started before my birth. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. There are many people like you who must have taken birth or will take birth. But it is a long journey. But hunger has not died. I have gone towards spirituality a lot. There is everything. But a lot of things that I have given up, a lot of things that I have given up, the satisfaction of my previous birth, I have to fulfill that. Till I don't fulfill that, I won't be able to go towards spirituality. So, I have to completely get rid of that hunger. That hunger is of art. That hunger is of my own passion. It is not dying. Now people ask me how much work will I do? I tell them that earlier when I didn't get work, they used to ask me why I didn't work. And now when I am working, they ask me how much work I am doing. So, the society, no matter what situation you are in, it will not be satisfied. But I am also not satisfied. Because now if I am getting work, which I didn't get in so many years, good work, and for which I used to sit at home, in search of it, waiting for it, if I am getting it, why shouldn't I do it? God is giving me energy. And he is giving me that energy so that I can move towards satisfying that hunger. That is also necessary for me. We talked a little bit in the beginning that you are very busy these days. Then I also said that yes sir, a lot of work is going on. But that feeling remains that there was no work at one time. Absolutely. And you should be grateful. You should be grateful. You should always think about that time when you didn't have work. I am sitting at home after doing a cult blockbuster film like Satya. I didn't have work. For many months. I did Shool, even after that I didn't have work. I did Korn, even after that I didn't have work. I did Aks, even after that I didn't have work. I did good work. I was praised a lot. No, I didn't have work. So, today if people are coming to you with work, then you will have to respect that time. And you will have to respect that work. That is why I never thought that while talking, I am saying this. Maybe I am very passionate and honest about my work. Maybe because of this reason that I am grateful to this moment. When I get to do the kind of roles and the films which were not coming to me earlier. Right? So that's why I don't think about my fatigue. Because at that time, I used to feel pain sitting in the mud. Yes. Right? I mean, I... At least I see myself in this way. See, without work, even if you sit on a good sofa, you will feel the pain. Ah! Wow! If someone makes you sit in a gold house, you will feel that it's okay. When do you want to go? Because if you don't have work, then even a gold house won't be good for you. An astrologer came on the show. His name is Arun Pandit. He is also a YouTuber. He said that 2024 is the year of Saturn. That means Saturn is more present. Saturn wants everyone to work more and work harder. And I don't know why, but I also noticed that all my friends, especially the professionals of the media industry, a lot of people have become very busy. You know, last year it was Ketu's turn. But I used to work a lot last year as well. So this year you are feeling more? No, this year I am not feeling more. But yes, if you see it according to the numerology, then how much comes after adding up to 2024? 8. 8 comes. Who has 8? Saturn has 8. Right? So, if you see the money, but there is also fatigue, there is also tiredness. Right? But, apart from all these things, Saturn, you are considered to be the oldest planet. What does it mean? It teaches you, it tires you, and somewhere, it also gives you a lot of spirituality. Saturn is the planet of spirituality. So, it takes you to that side as well. It warns you about that as well. That you will have to think about your soul as well. You are just roaming around with your body. What is the soul? Right? So, it warns you about that as well. It is the same with Ketu as well. Do you know Jyotish? What? Do you know a little about Jyotish? I am a student. I am a student. Jyotish? Yes, Jyotish. And my Guru in Jyotish, my Gurubhai, Anandacharya, Yes. He has come, he is sitting outside. Okay. There is no Jyotish greater than that in India. And at this age, He had read at least 3000 books. His grandfather was a great Jyotish. Mr. Kilkar. Okay. Have you experienced your own shani Sade sati? A lot. It's over? When you came, I was sitting at home without any work. I was also sick. But because I knew that it was that period. You knew that it was that period? Yes, that period. So I knew that I was going to have a lot of trouble in this. I knew that the work would get dry. I knew that I would fall sick. All those things were happening. So in that, do you know what is the biggest benefit of knowing Jyotish? It's like a guide. It's a guide. That brother, this is a little bad here. This is coming. So prepare yourself. And prepare yourself from now on what you will do at that time. So that there is less trouble. So you start that preparation. So I was ready. And he came. And exactly you know that 5 years out of 7.5 years is a lot of trouble. There is a lot of trouble. Was there a lack of money? A lot of things. A lot of things. I had a complete downfall. I went like this and I came shooting down like this. And I knew that in that time people are going to write me off completely and forget about me. That happened. Sorry, I am asking this. But were you afraid of shame then? No, I was not afraid of shame. I feel a little afraid of shame. I am not ashamed of failure. I never give a chance to success and success to define me. Because man is beyond success and failure. Your personality, what is inside you, what you are, has nothing to do with success and failure. There is a materialistic definition. If you are successful, you are great. If you are unsuccessful, you are a fool. So this is a materialistic definition. This has nothing to do with me. Most of my friends are those who do not fit in the definition of your success. But for me, they are very successful people. Because they are satisfied. They are satisfied but they are very big people. They are very big people. For me, their success is that. Your success can be a hit or a flop. The definition of failure can be a flop or success can be a hit. For me, it is not that. I look at the person. What is this person made of? What is his journey? What is his integrity? What are his values? This is very important for me. The person I am sitting with, am I gaining from him? Or am I a person who is getting defeated day by day due to his failure? Or am I a person who has crossed the limits of his pride due to his success? I do not want to sit with them. Because I feel that they do not have the depth to give something to someone else. Because they are very egoistic. They are not looking from here to there. Wow! Right? They are coming in themselves. Or they are stuck in themselves because their film flopped. Or they are not getting work. If we do not look beyond that, Tomorrow you will be old. Your time will pass away. Then what will you do? What will you do tomorrow when all this will pass away? Then you do not have any plan. Because your camera is always here. You are standing by rotating the camera towards you. I think in every person's life, there comes a moment where the camera turns from here to there. And ideally, this should happen during your college life. But people do not have it. So, he is a very blessed person. Who from childhood or after college life or from the time of college life, he gets this knowledge. And that knowledge can only happen when your company is good. It matters a lot with whom you are sitting and standing. I am not saying this just like that. Or if you have listened to the right podcast. I am saying this because nowadays loneliness has increased. Loneliness has increased in people's hearts. People have started listening to podcasts to fulfill that loneliness. Because people feel that after listening to the podcast, it feels like we are sitting in the same room. Absolutely right. And a lot of people are watching podcasts. I go to the airport, I go among people, I sit in the flight. A lot of people talk about my interviews. Which did not happen before that someone is talking about my interviews. It means that he is watching. But there is one thing there that he should be very aware of. The root of all this loneliness is also digital consumption. your You are sitting in your car here. You are going out of the window, the trees are going, people are going, the car is going. The building, the field, you are not seeing it. There is a person sitting next to you, you have nothing to talk to him. So you are the reason for your loneliness. The meanings of friendship have changed. Friendships are over. You sit together and do bro bro. But you really don't have any friends. No friends. Even in Bihar? In my village. Meaning in the village? In the village, but small cities are changing now. I was watching one day, in a hotel, there was a room in a 5 star hotel, where I was getting ready. And I was sitting facing the window. My makeup was going on there. I was watching people on Juhu beach. Waves were coming from there. High waves. Do you know what people were doing? They were not standing and watching the waves. They were making a reel. They were making a reel of waves. You are not seeing the waves with naked eyes. You are seeing the waves with the eyes of the camera. So you are not experiencing that moment. You are trying to capture in your camera. You are more interested in that. But this is related to the topic of confusion of film making. You are seeing such a beautiful scene. You feel like recording it. You know, all the great film makers, you listen to everyone's interviews. All the great film makers. All of them are different from mobile. In India also. I was listening to Nolan once. He does not have any gadget. He does not have any social media. He goes to everyone with the script. He does not even send it by email. He goes to all the actors. He gives. Martin Scorsese. And there are many such directors worldwide. They are completely away. Because they experience life so much. Then they write. They sit with the writers. So they are capturing life here. And then on the paper. And then they have to execute it. And they bring their own interpretation of life. About that moment. There are many such film makers here also. Devashish Mukherjee is a film maker. Kanu Behl. All of them are very good. mind. Ram Reddy. If you message him, the answer will not come today. Maybe after four days, you will consider yourself lucky. Because he is in himself. Because he is doing creativity, he is doing creativity, he is thinking or reading something or then he is experiencing life, he is going somewhere. So he knows that I will use it here, I will not be used by it. So using social media and being used by social media are two different things, Ranbir. And this has to be done at a conscious level. I want to watch a podcast. I am in love with podcasts. I will definitely watch podcasts. But I will assign that time. How much I am going to watch? Rest of the time, we have a struggle with the new generation. please the see the outside in the car I go from here to Kolhapur, I go to Satara or I go to Sholapur. I want to go again and again. I keep going. Because I like that journey. But the person who is using mobile, what will be the idea of the journey? Ask him about the soil of Maharashtra and Bihar. He will not know. He will not know. He will not know which trees are seen on the roadside in Maharashtra and which trees are seen on the roadside in Bihar, He will not know. So when life changes, I am not criticizing. What I am saying is that we should be aware of how much work we do on ourselves and how much we see other things. If you are teaching a podcast, it is a very good thing. And such learners, as you said, there are many people who meet and learn from podcasts. But I just want that those who are learning, apply it. Until I apply it on myself, what did I do after listening to your podcast? I just listened. Oh, it was a very good thing. But what am I doing to improve myself? Has this wave of self-improvement come to the interiors of India? It is everywhere. It is everywhere. Have you started leveling up? A lot. I am feeling it a lot. A lot. From the data of the show. So now you need deep content. No, because people, as you said, a fatigue will come, Ranbir. And in many people, a fatigue is coming or has already come. A fatigue comes. Facebook has a fatigue. Wow. Twitter. Yes, everywhere. Twitter also has a fatigue. Instagram also has a fatigue. I am seeing it slowly. So there is a fatigue of making reels. Wow. Right? So now that technology is also getting old. How many times will we do the same thing? The wave of self-improvement that we said is coming. I really feel that this all of a sudden boost that we have got. In the last 10 years, after Wasseypur. With politics. With politics. Because till then my Sade Saati was going on. But at the same time, when your Sade Saati ended. I would say it has been a lot more than the last 5 years. I would say that before Family Man Season 1, Satyamev Jayate, Baaghi 2 were all very successful films. I was getting a lot of work. And I had decided to do independent films. I had decided to do a lot of films. That I should also do independent films. I had come to a situation where I felt that if I do this, I would do that. If I do this, I would do that. When I was doing Family Man Season 1, my wife said, Everything is alright. What series are you doing? I said, no Shabana, it's a big thing in the US. And it is going to peak here as well. So Shabana could not understand that you are not doing this for money. We are very happy. Do what you feel like doing. I said, no, I am not doing this for money. This is a very good show. And shows are doing very well in the US and all over the world. It is yet to peak in India. Season 1 came, we did the shooting for Season 2. And then Pan***** came. After Pan***** came, it suddenly hit India. At that time, the Kareni Podcast of Pan***** also became very popular. India changed. India changed completely. And the atmosphere of OTT, people are still not able to get over it. Because they saw a world. They saw a different world of stories. People have become fast. And they know what to do. Where to use their money. Because there are a lot of middlemen in India. The ones who give money. The ones who have desires. He decides everything. So he decided that this is OTT. And he is doing whatever he wants. And I get this much. So he is deciding how to use his money. I feel that you were always a very smart actor. But the world was not ready for you. Sorry, this is a bit harsh. Yes, you can say it in one way. More than the world, the industry. The industry told me in the beginning. Many directors told me. I don't know what to do with you. So I was able to understand. Because I don't look like a hero or a villain. And secondly, they didn't have what I wanted to do. But before politics, I had already started asking for work. Because I didn't have work. So I had to ask for work. When I used to take bath, do yoga, meditation, exercise. Bath, wash, do puja. I used to wear new clothes, put on perfume and sit on the sofa. I used to ask for work. So for me, that was office. I had to go to work. Where am I going to work? I am going to the sofa. I will sit here and ask for work. To feel good about myself. It was a tough time. But I understood it well. That I will get ready every day. Even if I am not going anywhere. I will not stay in the track pant. I will wear good clothes. I will put on perfume. That I am going to work. Because I am sitting on the sofa and asking for work. That is also work. This is Bihari strength. Bihari stubbornness. Bihari strength. Bihari stubbornness. I want to mention a small thing. Go ahead. My brother, Eclipse Nova. He was studying in IIT. I went to Delhi for an IIT show. I saw something in that. He is originally from Bihar. I told him that I want to work with him. There was a project. I called him to Mumbai. He used to live in my garage. Bihari Stubbornness. I learnt a lot from him. He learnt a lot from me. He has gone viral through Reels. In his music career. In the music industry, social media has become a skill. He already knew social media. Music is something that keeps improving. He is a very dedicated artist. His career is going very far. I have seen his Bihari Stubbornness. How he used to sleep. He used to wake up at 4 and compose. Now he is exploding. Honestly, when I decided the theme of this episode. That was in my heart. I learnt a lot from him. I always tell people. In your life, work hard till the age of 30. Work so hard. Work so hard. You should just forget about. Everything should be secondary. Your fun should be secondary. You should have fun. Because it is age. I have also done it. But the whole day should be dedicated. To learn your craft. Just learn. Till the age of 30. Whatever you have done till the age of 30. Take the things up that you learned till 30 till 30,don't think how many hour you have slept or not, because you are young your body can afford that much torture if you put yourself into fire till 30 your life will take care of you after that the language you are talking about is a good thing it's such a good thing that he creates his music at 4 am that person is keep working from 4 am in the morning if it is creating something take it further it will for your own good the person who is working this much can't be be sad i get a lot of critcism because i talk a lot about growth but i think you can't get a growth without a little imbalance in life you have to stay a little imbalance see, the criticism and praise both happen together both happens together Aur aloshna aur tarif ke baare mein main aapko i want to tell you one thing about it i think you feel good When a bowler is bowling in a stadium, both are getting criticized. Bowler bowled, and missed from the off stump. Everyone says, he should have pulled it in a little. And the batsman hit the bat, and missed. So they say, his off side is getting really bad. But no one sitting in the stadium is playing. No one is playing. No one can feel the ball coming at a speed of 140, which the batsman is feeling. And no one is gripping the ball, and doesn't know why the ball is missing from the off stump. Why is it going away? Maybe his grip is not right. Maybe the dew is too much on him. Maybe he is not throwing the ball properly, and the grip is slipping. There are many things that a bowler feels. Or he is getting niggles in his ankles, in his ankles, or in his knees. Something is happening, which you can't feel. What are you doing? You are a spectator. So the world, which is not doing your job, is a spectator. This is the job of a spectator. This is the job of a spectator. So some people might be criticizing you, some might be praising you. But your job is to play. Your job is to focus on the other ball. For both, for the batsman and for the bowler. If you focus on that, then I don't think that things affect you more. Of course, they do. You are very human. But they will affect you more. Because then you don't have time. Then you are focusing on the second ball. Right? Om Namah Shivaya. Om Namah Shivaya. The batsman and the bowler should go home and meditate after that. Of course, they do. And a lot of people, when they become great players, you should give them discipline. You should read their journey. Sunil Gavaskar is such a great player. I mean, today there are a lot of cricket players, who play a lot of cricket. They have a lot of money. They have a name. They have everything. But I met Vivian Richards once accidently at Mahesh Bhat's house. So I took his autograph. I was looking for a job in the industry. And Bhat sir loved me a lot. So I used to go to his house. I told vivian richards I think you are the best player in the world. And when I was a fan of Sunil Gavaskar, he said, no. Sunil Gavaskar is the best player in the world. I said, how can you say that, sir? I think he is second best. Vivian Richards said a very good thing. He said, I was the best team player in the world. Sunil Gavaskar played against all the best bowlers in the world, and made so many centuries. And he had such a long career. Sunil Gavaskar played against all the best bowlers in the world. You must know this. From Australia to West Indies to Pakistan. He was the best bowler, the best batsman. So only Vivian Richards could say this. Only another great man can say this about another great man. If you are Vivian Richards in acting then who is Gavaskar? I consider Gavaskar to be Irrfan. I consider K.K. Menon. I consider Nawazuddin Siddiqui. And the people who are there in our time, who are our seniors, Nasruddin Shah. I think he is also from Vivian Richards. There is Amitabh Bachchan. There was Om Puri. There are many people. And Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma of today, there is Rajkumar Rao. There is Jaidip Ilawat. There is Jatin Goswami. There is Kulshan Devaia. Vikrant Massey. There are many people. There is Vijay Verma. Nowadays, many people are doing a great job. I don't know why I am asking you this. But I will still ask. What is your favorite Nolan film? And why? And why did you choose that? Look, I don't understand Nolan. I am telling you the truth. The concept of time, I find it difficult to understand. But I am trying to read it and understand it. I understand Oppenheimer better. Then there was a film by him, Warwali. What was the name? Dunkirk. Dunkirk. Because I have always had an opinion about war. The one thing that has always disturbed me is the concept of war. L.O.C. Kargil. Yes, L.O.C. Kargil. I remember you. Even while doing that, I was having a lot of trouble. Because I am concerned with the whole concept of war. People die. Because people die. People are killing each other. This is the truth of our species. Yes, it is the truth. But it is disturbing. It is disturbing. You can ask any soldier. He used to say, if there is a border nearby, go and talk to them. I asked him once, the person whom you are showing, do you talk to him? He said, yes, we talk. We talk a lot when there is a ceasefire. I said, what happens when the ceasefire ends suddenly? He said, if we don't kill, they will kill. Do you understand? The energy of war is different. Now, when there is a world war in the world, if there is one thing that scares me the most, it is that the world war does not happen. Do you think it will happen? We are standing at the door. God forbid it happens. But the truth is that we are standing at the door. Something should happen so that all this is averted. So that humanity is saved. This is what we can pray for. Do you follow geopolitics? A lot. A lot? Yes, me and my wife Shabana, we follow it a lot. And we like to talk about it a lot. There are different opinions. Sometimes the same opinion. But I think everyone should know. What is happening in the world's politics? What is happening? And you will suddenly find out that how martialism is its biggest reason. How greed is its biggest reason. And then you start finding everything futile. Which is good. You should know. You should know why it's happening. Why it has been happening for so many years. Every war's root cause is greed. Greed for money. Greed for power, greed for money. Greed for everything. Greed is a word in itself. What should I say? What is the biggest reason for our suffering? Greed. Desire. The same desire. When you grew up in Mumbai, sometimes you hear about geopolitics. Actually, there is a lot of talk about geopolitics. But less about national politics. Not a lot, but less. But if you go out of Mumbai, Bangalore, or anywhere else. There is a lot of talk. If you want to talk about national politics or state politics, then go to Bihar. Sit at some corner of Bihar. And whatever you will get to know, you will get only this much. Sometimes, the reporters who are reporting on the ground, sometimes I get clippings to watch. The people on the ground are so intelligent, so informed about national politics. Whether they are in favour or against it. But the people of Mumbai and Delhi will be defeated by their intelligence and knowledge. They are so connected. They know so much. And they know the reason for everything. They know the reason for every event. Would you like to say something about Prashant Kishore? I talk to him. We talk a lot. Sometimes he calls me. And we talk a lot about Bihar's politics and national politics. Or they talk about my acting, our film industry, the politics here. I am friends with a lot of people. I think he is very charismatic. And obviously very intelligent. I mean, whatever his life has been. Life? Yes, I mean, the life he has lived. These people have mastered social media. And they started it. And ruled over it. And their company, which did surveys and all. So they are skilled in that. But I have my own opinion. That today's voter. He doesn't speak. He has become quiet. Because he gets into fights. No, he feels that it is unnecessary. I won't read it later. Because he has become smart. So he can vote for any party. But he won't speak to you. So no matter how big the survey sample is. All your surveys are a failure. Because over the years I have seen that all the surveys are failing. Both social media and TV are failing. Because there is only one reason. That the voter has become quiet. He is not telling you the right thing. Has your acting skill improved by following national politics? Very good. The start you have done of our talk Our actors will keep understanding. What is the connection between acting and education. Till then they won't become good actors. I have a very good friend. She is a very good actor. She told me that you have to be very intelligent to be a good actor. But many don't understand this. You have to be intelligent and well informed. your... Everything is there in acting. Everything. From horse riding. Whatever you are studying. Whether you are studying history, geography, science, spirituality. Whatever you are studying. Whatever you do. It helps you a lot. It helps you in your daily life. I don't place my character as Shrikant Tiwari. I won't be able to place it i won't be able to interpret it if i am not educated if don't have a explosion if i don't have a information of it how can it happen If I don't know how to differentiate between NIA and RAW, then how can I work? I have to understand the work area. Now I do a lot of interviews, many journalists say that you played many roles of police. I said, which ones did I follow? You did Shool, Silence and Family Man. I said, wait a second. NIA is not the work of the police. The work of the police is Law and Enforcement. It is the work of Law and Order. It has nothing to do with Intelligence. The Police Department works on the input of Intelligence. Or the Army works. Right? So many people don't know this. They don't know the difference between CBI and NIA. So we have to have this knowledge. We have to have this information. And if you don't understand the geopolitical atmosphere of India, then where will you place your character? If you don't understand the caste system of our country, then how will I play the role of Dasaru in Joram? If I don't understand the class system, then how will I play the role of Gulmohar? How do you get the knowledge? Keep reading. Whatever information is there, read it. I have studied in Delhi University. I have done schooling in Bihar. So we were motivated to read the newspapers. Read the newspapers. Read the newspapers. Our parents used to make our lives miserable. Our grandfathers used to make our lives miserable. When our elders used to come to the newspapers, they used to tell us to read the editorials. They used to make us sit. We were 14 years old. 13 years So we used to read the editorials and tell them loudly. Because if they don't have glasses, then you tell them. It is true that, I don't know if this used to happen then, but it is definitely happening today. And Nova told me this. In every house in Bihar, you are told to be an engineer, doctor or IAS. Is it true? Absolutely right. Is this still happening? Absolutely. If the culture of Bihar is so education driven, then there must be an ambition in every Bihari export, who go to other cities to study or do a job. I feel bad about this. I didn't even know that this was a thing in this world. Nova told me that, there is a little bit of Bihari racism. Not in Mumbai. I don't know actually. Maybe it is in Mumbai too. You can call it Bihari bias. Yes, Bihari bias. Someone made a viral reel. Do you know? He is reading a poem. Yes, he is reading a poem. Today, the same guy came to Bhaiyaji's trailer launch. He read that poem. He has written it very well. He liked one line very much. We will not talk about UPSC, IAS, IPS. We will tell you what else is there in Bihar. Because I felt that this guy, he is a very intelligent guy. He has studied from my college. I have made his alumni. He has studied from my Ramjas college. I met him today. I think his name is Sahil. Love has come. Let him go and hug. But I was thinking that, I am not Bihari. I don't know what it's like being Bihari. What happens when you go to Delhi, when you go to Mumbai, people talk from a different perspective. I am not asking this from the current Manoj Bajpai. I am not asking this from the current Manoj Bajpai. You are absolutely right. You are absolutely right. There is nothing wrong in this. But the way you deal with it, I think it should be a little different. Like my father-in-law used to say, Father-in-law used to say that, if someone is making fun of you on the basis of religion, if someone is making fun of you on the basis of area, you should never turn around and answer. You just smile. Why? In your mind you are thinking, what a fool you are. What a fool you are and what a pathetic upbringing you had. You are generalizing. There are all kinds of people everywhere. Be it in Punjab, Kashmir, Bihar, Odisha, or South India. Our bias is amazing that we call all our friends Madrasis. How uninformed we are. Isn't it? We don't even know that Andhra, Telangana, Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Karnataka, these are all different states and they have a very strong identity. Right? Similarly, in Bihar and UP, I meet so many people who don't even know that Bihar and UP are different states. There is a huge gap between Western UP and Eastern UP in culture. There is a huge gap. So, you have to be informed. You have to study. You have to read. You have to watch. you have to be passionate about the information Otherwise, why are we living I would like to mention a random thing. I feel very angry about this. This might be my Punjabi bias. That's why I am feeling angry. So, my grandmother was a Sikh. And generally, I have a lot of attachment towards Sikhi. I have heard a lot about Sikhi through podcasts. When I meet a Sikh, I feel a little automatic brotherhood. At a subtle level. These days, on social media, under the reels of many Sikhs, there are a lot of abusive comments. Which are quite offensive. Then, the Sikh brothers start fighting with other brothers. And I feel very sad to see this. Then I used to think that this didn't happen 5 years ago. So, where did all this come from? It was 5 years ago. It used to happen. It was not social media. You were not able to know about any comment. Yes. In today's free data time, people write anything from anywhere. There are no shortage of such people who spend the whole day commenting on others. It was before social media. If social media has empowered you, then it has also empowered them. You are using social media as a podcast. They are commenting on you and using it. You are getting the point. So, feel pity for them. If you are getting constructive criticism, welcome it. Do constructive criticism. I will answer it. What will I answer? Hey, Bihari. What can I answer if someone writes a comment? Should I go back and say something? Is it going to help? Say, Thala is also a Bihari. I will comment on this. Thala is also a Bihari. My mentoring sessions are over. It's done. Maahi Ve It's done. Sir, I want to talk to you more. Pleasure talking to you. What you do that you make me sit. Yes. You force me to sit in one place. When I am running from here to there, someone compels me to sit. Who compels me? My friends. Or my family. My family starts getting angry. My daughter throws tantrums. She says no. Then father sits. Okay. Sorry. You also compel me to sit in one place and talk. Give me mentoring, sir. I want your mentoring. Your podcast is so popular. You are mentoring people. Through you people. I am not saying this as a response. I am saying this in reality. I feel this is not a show. It has become a big part of my life. I am sharing my experience with you people. Sometimes it takes 40 minutes to break an ice. Sometimes it breaks in the first minute. It happened last time also. Today the ice broke when I hug you No. Last time, actually, I have two things. I sat there suddenly. I can start right away. One, I can talk about acting. Because I have always learnt it by talking. Because when you ask me a question, I also think about the answer. Or I look for what I have done. Then I try to find the answer from there. I don't like to give any knowledge. I talk about my life and talk to you. And I do what I talk about. I mean, I apply what I say. Because I won't talk to you about what I don't do. I wake up at 5 in the morning. I will tell you, wake up at 5 in the morning, take a bath. Right? Do yoga, meditation, exercise. Because I do it. So I don't know any other way. I don't know what other discipline is. So I enjoy talking. People want this, sir. That's why people want to listen to Manoj Bajpai. No. Now I will tell you honestly. I have done 2-3 mainstream films in my life. More than that. I must have done 4-5. Mostly, I like middle of the road or independent cinema. A lot. For the first time, I did a mainstream film, Out and Out. The one I am headlining is Bhaiyaji. And when I was doing it, the motivation I was getting, was from my director, Apoorva Sinkar, who is a very stubborn person, a mountain person. He made me do things that I thought I wouldn't be able to do. But when he made me do it, I experienced a different way. My mind also opened up. So I also want to meet someone who can open my mind, who can compel me. Who can open my reservations. Who can show me the light in my darkness. So I am also trying to improve myself. That's why I don't want to keep it closed. Self-identification is increasing with time. Know yourself. Yes, know yourself. Expand yourself. Humans don't have a limit. Humans don't have a limit. We limit ourselves a lot. Because of the fear of the society, the fear of the industry, the fear of the world. A small child, he will come to you and sit there. The society keeps telling him, do this, do that, don't go there, don't touch this. We stop the growth of the child. We don't give him freedom. We take away his freedom from the do's and don'ts. So now we have to go towards having children. You have to become a Mowgli, sir. Mowgli, in a underwear. Manoj sir, all the best for Bhaiyaji. Thank you. The trailer is very strong. Thank you. And I am hoping that everyone will come to watch Bhaiyaji. Very good. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Lots of love. Thank you. How did you like today's episode, friends? Tell us in the comment section. There are some people in this world, who have an infinite number of podcasts. Among them, Manoj Bajpai is one of them. He is a very special soul. According to me, Manoj Bajpai will return to TRS. If you haven't watched Bhaiyaji yet, then it is releasing on 24th May. If you are watching this podcast after 24th May, then definitely go and watch Bhaiyaji. In theatres now. Manoj sir will return to TRS. Namaste. Thank you for the love and support.